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rule1223
07-09-2011, 03:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVEIb3opQY

Samurai Swoosh
07-09-2011, 03:46 PM
* except for the playoffs

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 03:49 PM
lol @ swoosh's stupid ass.

asdf1990
07-09-2011, 03:51 PM
most unstoppable scorer has only 2 scoring titles in 15 seasons lol....

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 03:55 PM
06-07 Kobe

2006
35.4 PPG/56% TS.
27 40+ point games
8 50+ point games
81 pts
62 pts in three quarters
4 straight 45+ point games
Multiple 40+ PPG months

2007
32 PPG/58% TS
19 40+ point games
10 50+ point games (only Wilt has done so)
4 straight 50+ point games
36 PPG/57% TS in second half of the year

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Jimmy2k8
07-09-2011, 03:58 PM
Wilt Chamberlain.

DRoseOwnsACamry
07-09-2011, 03:59 PM
06-07 Kobe

2006
35.4 PPG/56% TS.
27 40+ point games
8 50+ point games
81 pts
62 pts in three quarters
4 straight 45+ point games
Multiple 40+ PPG months

2007
32 PPG/58% TS
19 40+ point games
10 50+ point games (only Wilt has done so)
4 straight 50+ point games
36 PPG/57% TS in second half of the year

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
How'd his team do? How far did they go in the playoffs?

Samurai Swoosh
07-09-2011, 03:59 PM
Wilt Chamberlain.
* except for playoffs

:oldlol:

sayitaintso
07-09-2011, 03:59 PM
Is this highlights from the 2010 Finals Game Seven??

gengiskhan
07-09-2011, 04:01 PM
* except for the playoffs

& except in the finals.

& except against great competition.

& except against Physical defense.

& except against arch-rivals of equal calibre (Leron, Wade, Iverson).

TheMarkMadsen
07-09-2011, 04:01 PM
Thats as many as Durant has in 4 years ... Durant > Kobe ... plus he plays in a more difficult era with longer, more athletic defenders.


yeah im sure the 6'10 durant is really worried about longer defenders, plus since when was 2006 & 2010 considered different eras? You're reaching son :no:

sayitaintso
07-09-2011, 04:03 PM
He also lead his team to impressive playoff exits. He lead the Lakers in the 2008 Finals Game Six record breaking deficit.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:04 PM
How'd his team do? How far did they go in the playoffs?
The fact that he got into the playoffs in the West with such garbage (Smush/Kwame/Cook/Walton/George/Mihm-oh lawd) is a miracle.

Stop the hate. Appreciate.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:04 PM
He also lead his team to impressive playoff exits. He lead the Lakers in the 2008 Finals Game Six record breaking deficit.
And then led them to back-to-back Championships. :pimp:

TheMarkMadsen
07-09-2011, 04:05 PM
How'd his team do? How far did they go in the playoffs?

Ask Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, and Chris Mihm.

DRoseOwnsACamry
07-09-2011, 04:05 PM
The fact that he got into the playoffs in the West with such garbage (Smush/Kwame/Cook/Walton/George/Mihm-oh lawd) is a miracle.

Stop the hate. Appreciate.
Not really, if you're putting up those numbers it should be expected that you'll make the post season.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:06 PM
Not really, if you're putting up those numbers it should be expected that you'll make the post season.
Yeah, it's called carrying a team. Doesn't change the fact that his supporting cast was a garbage.

Mr. I'm So Rad
07-09-2011, 04:07 PM
So much anger in this thread :oldlol:

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:07 PM
And then lead them to getting swept?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/MitchMatch/brad_pit_dance.gif
i see u be trolling hard now

DRoseOwnsACamry
07-09-2011, 04:08 PM
Yeah, it's called carrying a team. Doesn't change the fact that his supporting cast was a garbage.
So those massive stats are inflated because he had a horrible team? Oh, I see... :rolleyes:

sayitaintso
07-09-2011, 04:08 PM
And then led them to back-to-back Championships. :pimp:

Especially that legendary game seven performance against Boston. He was unstoppable offensively in that game from the free throw line.

FourthTenor
07-09-2011, 04:10 PM
The fact that he got into the playoffs in the West with such garbage (Smush/Kwame/Cook/Walton/George/Mihm-oh lawd) is a miracle.

Stop the hate. Appreciate.

You mean Kobe + Odom/Bynum/Farmar/Radman/Turiaf/Vujacic

A lot of players could get to the 8th seed in a West that wasn't deep at the time with that lineup. Look at the teams they had to beat out, Twolves, Grizzlies, Clippers etc.

They were pretty much just a default team to round out the playoffs. Once in it, they were swiftly devoured. We saw this year what happens when Shaq aint there and Pau aint bailin him out. Same thing as happened those years in '06, '07 etc

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:10 PM
So those massive stats are inflated because he had a horrible team? Oh, I see... :rolleyes:
I guess every super-star who's been asked to carry a team has their numbers inflated. :oldlol:

DRoseOwnsACamry
07-09-2011, 04:11 PM
I guess every super-star who's been asked to carry a team has their numbers inflated. :oldlol:
Pretty much. If you're putting up those numbers and not going anywhere, it means shit.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:11 PM
They were pretty much just a default team to round out the playoffs. Once in it, they were swiftly devoured. We saw this year what happens when Shaq aint there and Pau aint bailin him out. Same thing as happened those years in '06, '07 etc
Yeah, he was about as successful as any superstar surrounded by garbage.

lol @ Pau bailing anyone out.

The hate is strong with this one.

zay_24
07-09-2011, 04:12 PM
Haters gonna hate
Kobe is the GOAT scorer

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:13 PM
Pretty much. If you're putting up those numbers and not going anywhere, it means shit.
I guess every pre-91 Jordan season means shit. All those KG seasons in Minnesota. 09 Wade. etc etc.


:oldlol:

DRoseOwnsACamry
07-09-2011, 04:13 PM
Haters gonna hate
Kobe is the GOAT scorer
http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

QuebecBaller
07-09-2011, 04:14 PM
http://goodmenproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/kareem-abdul-jabbar.jpg

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:14 PM
Especially that great post-season.[/COLOR]
Yeah, he was unstoppable in both post-seasons.

09--30/6/6/2/57% TS (23 games)
10--29/6/6/2/57% TS (23 games)

:pimp:

DRoseOwnsACamry
07-09-2011, 04:15 PM
I guess every pre-91 Jordan season means shit. All those KG seasons in Minnesota. 09 Wade. etc etc.


:oldlol:
At least they weren't stuck in the first round... :roll:

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:17 PM
At least they weren't stuck in the first round... :roll:
Back-to-back champs. :oldlol:

DRoseOwnsACamry
07-09-2011, 04:18 PM
Back-to-back champs. :oldlol:
And then
http://lifebeforetime.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/lakers-get-swept.jpg

Right after. :roll:

Remember when Jordan was swept out of the playoffs after he won back-to-back championships? Neither do I. :roll:

Heavincent
07-09-2011, 04:19 PM
He also lead his team to impressive playoff exits. He lead the Lakers in the 2008 Finals Game Six record breaking deficit.

He also has five rings.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:20 PM
Remember when Kobe's team won 55 games and was a bad call away from the ECF without him?

Neither do I. :oldlol:

Back-to-back champs. :pimp:

Heavincent
07-09-2011, 04:22 PM
What's with all the Kobe-hate in this thread? We should appreciate an all-time great while he is still around.

catch24
07-09-2011, 04:23 PM
What's with all the Kobe-hate in this thread? We should appreciate an all-time great while he is still around.

You don't see stanley's knocking Jordan here?

Jimmy2k8
07-09-2011, 04:24 PM
Screw all of you.

Shaq>Kobe.

sayitaintso
07-09-2011, 04:25 PM
And then
http://lifebeforetime.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/lakers-get-swept.jpg

Right after. :roll:

Remember when Jordan was swept out of the playoffs after he won back-to-back championships? Neither do I. :roll:

I never remember Jordan losing a finals series. Phil Jackson didn't lose a first round series until Kobe became the alpha male on the Lakers, and that was a series Lakers blew a 3-1 series lead...something Jordan never accomplished.

Or setting final exit like the following:
Game 6 of the 2008 Finals: Boston wins the title with a 39-point blowout, Kobe goes 7-for-22.

Game 7 of the 2010 Finals: Kobe goes for 6-24. He must have had more free throws than field goals that game. #Winning but not a lot of highlights from the *most* unstoppable scorer.

madmax
07-09-2011, 04:25 PM
oh, the seasons when GOAT chucker had a green light brick as much as he wishes and some nights more of his shots went in rather than not:lol And then quitting in playoffs against D'Antoni's defense-less Suns while blowing a 3-1 series lead:bowdown: Amazing achievement indeed...

Heavincent
07-09-2011, 04:25 PM
They were pretty much just a default team to round out the playoffs. Once in it, they were swiftly devoured. We saw this year what happens when Shaq aint there and Pau aint bailin him out. Same thing as happened those years in '06, '07 etc

Kobe 2010 playoff stats: 29/6/6
Pau 2010 playoff stats: 20/11/4

Yeah that's really getting bailed out you ****ing idiot.

Heavincent
07-09-2011, 04:26 PM
You don't see stanley's knocking Jordan here?

Don't stoop down to their level.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:26 PM
Game 7 of the 2010 Finals: Kobe goes for 6-24. He must have had more free throws than field goals that game.
3 straight Finals, back-to-back champs. U :mad: ?

Wade3
07-09-2011, 04:27 PM
oh, the seasons when GOAT chucker had a green light brick as much as he wishes and some nights more of his shots went in rather than not:lol And then quitting in playoffs against D'Antoni's defense-less Suns while blowing a 3-1 series lead:bowdown: Amazing achievement indeed...

lol lebron

lol laughing stock of the NBA

lol largest drop off from the regular season to the finals in NBA history

catch24
07-09-2011, 04:28 PM
Don't stoop down to their level.

Who says I am? I was asking if you see the Jordan "hate" as well.

Heavincent
07-09-2011, 04:28 PM
oh, the seasons when GOAT chucker had a green light brick as much as he wishes and some nights more of his shots went in rather than not:lol And then quitting in playoffs against D'Antoni's defense-less Suns while blowing a 3-1 series lead:bowdown: Amazing achievement indeed...

This is really ****ing ironic coming from a Lebron stan :oldlol:

Kobe has five rings to make up for his failures.

How about your boy Lebron choking in the finals and averaging like two points in the fourth quarter? He lost in hilarious fashion with the most stacked team in the league :oldlol:

thejumpa
07-09-2011, 04:28 PM
I see that homo Jacks3 is in here trolling again.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:28 PM
http://s4.hubimg.com/u/2259211_f248.jpg

Haters are furious. :oldlol:

Heavincent
07-09-2011, 04:29 PM
Who says I am? I'm asking if you see the Jordan "hate" as well?

I do and they look really stupid as well.

Kobe haters are probably a little more pathetic though.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:29 PM
I see that homo Jacks3 is in here trolling again.

Yeah, because the Jordan stans aren't. Clown. :oldlol:

sayitaintso
07-09-2011, 04:30 PM
3 straight Finals, back-to-back champs. U :mad: ?

39 point Finals Exit... Kobe never quit? He had bigger fish to fry.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:31 PM
39 point Finals Exit... Kobe never quit? He had bigger fish to fry.
3 straight Finals, back-to-back champs

5 rings.

:pimp:

Heavincent
07-09-2011, 04:34 PM
oh, the seasons when GOAT chucker had a green light brick as much as he wishes and some nights more of his shots went in rather than not:lol And then quitting in playoffs against D'Antoni's defense-less Suns while blowing a 3-1 series lead:bowdown: Amazing achievement indeed...

I still can't believe a Lebron stan had the nerve to say this :roll: :roll:

I'm in awe.

sayitaintso
07-09-2011, 04:37 PM
http://s4.hubimg.com/u/2259211_f248.jpg

Haters are furious. :oldlol:

How did the second three peat go?

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/1079ishot.com/files/2011/05/101674996-250x200.jpg

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:38 PM
5 rings.

sayitaintso
07-09-2011, 04:39 PM
Kobe does own Jordan with the following:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225586_214972235188293_147262525292598_785033_6846 633_n.jpg

and this:

http://www.technobaboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Kobe-Bryant-after-loss-to-dallas-mavericks.jpg

Heavincent
07-09-2011, 04:40 PM
How did the second three peat go?

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/1079ishot.com/files/2011/05/101674996-250x200.jpg

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/y%20NBA%20etc/1%20Miami%20Heat/umadmiamiheat-kobebryant-1.jpg?t=1280400430

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:42 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6dKQTchkJaA/TBxTe3yqj5I/AAAAAAAATMY/mkDR7mAa5qI/s1600/KOBE,+MVP+2010.jpg

Haters so furious. :oldlol:

Heavincent
07-09-2011, 04:42 PM
Kobe does own Jordan with the following:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225586_214972235188293_147262525292598_785033_6846 633_n.jpg


I love how the only way people can insult Kobe is by comparing him to the GOAT. Everybody looks bad when compared to Jordan.

AMISTILLILL
07-09-2011, 04:48 PM
The fact that he got into the playoffs in the West with such garbage (Smush/Kwame/Cook/Walton/George/Mihm-oh lawd) is a miracle.

Stop the hate. Appreciate.

Yeah, dude. The western conference was a REAL powerhouse in 05-06, can't believe the Lakers made it. You realize the Ron Artest Kings, LA Clippers, Nuggets and Grizzlies also went to the playoffs that season, right? It's not as if the Lakers were facing elite competition or the '86 Celtics out west to get a playoff berth. Pau Gasol had an even worse team in Memphis and Carmelo Anthony had just as much of a ramshackle cast of characters as Kobe that year. Chucking your team into a first round exit isn't the lofty accomplishment a lot of you Lakers faithful make it out to be.

sayitaintso
07-09-2011, 04:48 PM
I love how the only way people can insult Kobe is by comparing him to the GOAT. Everybody looks bad when compared to Jordan.

I disagreed. Everybody doesn't look bad (assuming we look at top basketball players the last five years) when compared to Jordan. But it exposes the hype machine overrating players. We already witness the hype machine on LeBron after the Eastern Conference Finals 2011 and look how that turned out for him the next series. He went from being proclaimed a closer back to choker status.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 04:52 PM
Chucking your team into a first round exit isn't the lofty accomplishment a lot of you Lakers faithful make it out to be.
It's not chucking if your efficiency is at 56% TS. Nice try.

And yes, getting 45 wins/7th in ORTG/7th in SRS with a supporting cast consisting of scrubs like Kwame/Mihm/Cook/Smush/Walton/Geaorge is a impressive accomplishment.

kaiiu
07-09-2011, 04:58 PM
goat PERIMETER SCORER

LOl @ the mad ass Jordan Stans

chips93
07-09-2011, 04:59 PM
It's not chucking if your efficiency is at 56% TS. Nice try.

And yes, getting 45 wins/7th in ORTG/7th in SRS with a supporting cast consisting of scrubs like Kwame/Mihm/Cook/Smush/Walton/Geaorge is a impressive accomplishment.


i was looking up other lakers' ts% that year, expecting to see many higher ones, but kobe's ts% that year was actually second on his team, so you couldnt have accused kobe of chucking that year. anyway league average is 54%, so 56% isnt bad

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2006.html

AMISTILLILL
07-09-2011, 05:00 PM
It's not chucking if your efficiency is at 56% TS. Nice try.

And yes, getting 45 wins/7th in ORTG/7th in SRS with a supporting cast consisting of scrubs like Kwame/Mihm/Cook/Smush/Walton/Geaorge is a impressive accomplishment.

You're really going to claim Kobe Bryant's never seen a shot that he didn't like?

I suppose Pau Gasol is a GOAT because he dragged Memphis into the playoffs with 49 wins, with a supporting cast of Battier and Chucky Atkins? My, the parameters for greatness certainly have changed.

Boast about Bryant's other laurels and achievements, but don't cite that 05-06 season as one of them. People did much more with MUCH less.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 05:01 PM
i was looking up other lakers' ts% that year, expecting to see many higher ones, but kobe's ts% that year was actually second on his team, so you could accused kobe of chucking that year. anyway league average is 54%, so 56% isnt bad

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/2006.html
Um no.

You can't compare the TS% of a guy scoring 35.4 PPG and drawing a ton of defensive attention to...role-players.

56% TS on that kind of volume is very solid.

Definitely not "chucking".

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 05:05 PM
You're really going to claim Kobe Bryant's never seen a shot that he didn't like?
35.4 PPG/56% TS is very solid. Bottom-line

I suppose Pau Gasol is a GOAT because he dragged Memphis into the playoffs with 49 wins, with a supporting cast of Battier and Chucky Atkins? My, the parameters for greatness certainly have changed.
Pau wasn't carrying anything. Those Memphis teams were much better constructed than the 06 Lakers. Dude was putting like 18/9. Please.

And when did I say Kobe is the G.O.A.T?:oldlol:

Boast about Bryant's other laurels and achievements, but don't cite that 05-06 season as one of them.
Not sure if serious.

The 06 season is one of the great highlights of Kobe's career.




People did much more with MUCH less.
:roll:

chips93
07-09-2011, 05:06 PM
Um no.

You can't compare the TS% of a guy scoring 35.4 PPG and drawing a ton of defensive attention to...role-players.

56% TS on that kind of volume is very solid.

Definitely not "chucking".


my bad i meant to say ''so you couldnt have accused kobe of chucking that year''.

Calabis
07-09-2011, 05:08 PM
most unstoppable scorer has only 2 scoring titles in 15 seasons lol....

Don't u know that Kobe is the only player who's prime was two seasons long, all the other seasons he's either been injured or it was SHaq's fault....lol

The-Legend-24
07-09-2011, 05:20 PM
Only a matter of time before insecure Jordan stans came in here. :roll:

Calabis
07-09-2011, 05:23 PM
I love how the only way people can insult Kobe is by comparing him to the GOAT. Everybody looks bad when compared to Jordan.

Well calling in the most unstoppable scorer ever is retarded, is he the most dangerous when hot...yes I will agree to that, but Jordan was more unstoppable....why because he did it on a more consistent basis...yes u can wipe Kobe's first couple of seasons out and he still doesn't match MJ's avg....just saying

RoseCity07
07-09-2011, 05:27 PM
Not even close. You aren't unstoppable when you have 12-27 games even in your prime.

Did he ever have a year where he shot above 50%? He's a great scorer, but so was Iverson. The only reason you are making this thread is because Kobe played on some great Lakers teams.

Iverson waisted his prime in Philly. I think had he won some rings there would threads like this about AI.

Calabis
07-09-2011, 05:31 PM
Only a matter of time before insecure Jordan stans came in here. :roll:


Well what do u expect when the title of the thread has no merit....how is he the most unstoppable scorer ever?? What gives him a case over MJ??? Nothing....Its like me starting a thread "Jordan best scorer during a individual season" No its not true Wilt holds that honor and I would expect Wilt fans to call me out on in....Kobestans have this misunderstanding of Kobe hate and Kobestan hate....start false thread, don't get mad when people call u out...simple

AMISTILLILL
07-09-2011, 05:32 PM
35.4 PPG/56% TS is very solid. Bottom-line

Pau wasn't carrying anything. Those Memphis teams were much better constructed than the 06 Lakers. Dude was putting like 18/9. Please.

And when did I say Kobe is the G.O.A.T?:oldlol:

Not sure if serious.

The 06 season is one of the great highlights of Kobe's career.




:roll:

You're purposely ignoring a guys longstanding reputation for being a ball hog and a chucker, and I get that. At least I'll acknowledge the guy as an all-time great, despite disliking him as a player immensely. Meanwhile, you're feigning ignorance to established fact and the reality of issues that have spawned criticism and maligned his career for years. I get that you have a hard-on for the guy, but come on. Throwing percentages at people doesn't revise history.

Perhaps if he hadn't put up the solid numbers you're lauding, was a better distributor and involved his teammates more that '05-'06 first round exit you're praising might have been something more. The guy doesn't make the people around him better. It's as simple as that.

Now you're disputing that those were Pau Gasol's Grizzlies? Tell me, whose were they? Battiers? Eddie Jones', perhaps? In your skewed perception of the NBA, does the person who puts up the most impressive stat line attain leadership status? That's what it sounds like.

2005-2006 is one of the great highlights of his career? Because he played 1-on-5 for an entire season? You're aware this is the same year he was criticized for seemingly quitting against Phoenix in the playoffs? Are you being stubborn and revisionist on purpose, or is this the unfortunate result of deeper seated issues? I'm genuinely perplexed.

The fact that you scoff when I suggest players have done more with teams boasting inferior supporting casts sort of kills your credibility in a myriad of ways. You genuinely believe Kobe had it tougher in '05-'06 than any other star player who hobbled into the playoffs with a sub-par group of guys. You and I both know that isn't true.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 05:32 PM
Only a matter of time before insecure Jordan stans came in here. :roll:
They're a very insecure bunch. :oldlol:

kaiiu
07-09-2011, 05:34 PM
Jordan STans mad as fvck. He would be a Poor mans Tony Allen today

INDI
07-09-2011, 05:40 PM
Pretty much. If you're putting up those numbers and not going anywhere, it means shit.


See statements like these are the reason Kobe never gets his proper due respect. We say scoring almost 36 points a game doesn't mean anything and we talk about getting bounced in the first round negates his accomplishments, but yet we praise jordans abilities when he dominated for years without getting his team to the promised land.


Question: where did jordan's bulls end up the year that he averaged the amazing 37 ppg?

Answer: Swept in the first round.

But yet you hatred leave that part out because it was grey performances that he gave us, but Kobe it don't matter because he didn't go anywhere. Quit with the double standard that man is one of two of the greatest scorers this game has/will ever see, barring nobody. When lebron wade durant sniffs 70 get back at me but til then y'all suckers enjoy the show

catch24
07-09-2011, 05:42 PM
You're purposely ignoring a guys longstanding reputation for being a ball hog and a chucker, and I get that. At least I'll acknowledge the guy as an all-time great, despite disliking him as a player immensely. Meanwhile, you're feigning ignorance to established fact and the reality of issues that have spawned criticism and maligned his career for years. I get that you have a hard-on for the guy, but come on. Throwing percentages at people doesn't revise history.

Perhaps if he hadn't put up the solid numbers you're lauding, was a better distributor and involved his teammates more that '05-'06 first round exit you're praising might have been something more. The guy doesn't make the people around him better. It's as simple as that.

Now you're disputing that those were Pau Gasol's Grizzlies? Tell me, whose were they? Battiers? Eddie Jones', perhaps? In your skewed perception of the NBA, does the person who puts up the most impressive stat line attain leadership status? That's what it sounds like.

2005-2006 is one of the great highlights of his career? Because he played 1-on-5 for an entire season? You're aware this is the same year he was criticized for seemingly quitting against Phoenix in the playoffs? Are you being stubborn and revisionist on purpose, or is this the unfortunate result of deeper seated issues? I'm genuinely perplexed.

The fact that you scoff when I suggest players have done more with teams boasting inferior supporting casts sort of kills your credibility in a myriad of ways. You genuinely believe Kobe had it tougher in '05-'06 than any other star player who hobbled into the playoffs with a sub-par group of guys. You and I both know that isn't true.

:applause:

Gottttt damn, these are the posts that make 'ya soul burn.

INDI
07-09-2011, 05:44 PM
Y'all can't pay for the kind of show Kobe has Put on for us. Ungrateful short term memory brats is what most of y'all act like. Appreciate greatness when you see it, so on love wig lebron, durant etc..... Neither has even done stuff that's worth remembering. What heroics come to mind when you say those names? I and many others can probably drop 20 heroic games with ease when we refer to Kobe.

Calabis
07-09-2011, 05:48 PM
You're purposely ignoring a guys longstanding reputation for being a ball hog and a chucker, and I get that. At least I'll acknowledge the guy as an all-time great, despite disliking him as a player immensely. Meanwhile, you're feigning ignorance to established fact and the reality of issues that have spawned criticism and maligned his career for years. I get that you have a hard-on for the guy, but come on. Throwing percentages at people doesn't revise history.

Perhaps if he hadn't put up the solid numbers you're lauding, was a better distributor and involved his teammates more that '05-'06 first round exit you're praising might have been something more. The guy doesn't make the people around him better. It's as simple as that.

Now you're disputing that those were Pau Gasol's Grizzlies? Tell me, whose were they? Battiers? Eddie Jones', perhaps? In your skewed perception of the NBA, does the person who puts up the most impressive stat line attain leadership status? That's what it sounds like.

2005-2006 is one of the great highlights of his career? Because he played 1-on-5 for an entire season? You're aware this is the same year he was criticized for seemingly quitting against Phoenix in the playoffs? Are you being stubborn and revisionist on purpose, or is this the unfortunate result of deeper seated issues? I'm genuinely perplexed.

The fact that you scoff when I suggest players have done more with teams boasting inferior supporting casts sort of kills your credibility in a myriad of ways. You genuinely believe Kobe had it tougher in '05-'06 than any other star player who hobbled into the playoffs with a sub-par group of guys. You and I both know that isn't true.

Ether:bowdown:

Wade3
07-09-2011, 05:49 PM
Y'all can't pay for the kind of show Kobe has Put on for us. Ungrateful short term memory brats is what most of y'all act like. Appreciate greatness when you see it, so on love wig lebron, durant etc..... Neither has even done stuff that's worth remembering. What heroics come to mind when you say those names? I and many others can probably drop 20 heroic games with ease when we refer to Kobe.

ni99as have to compare Kobe to Jordan to downgrade him, Kobe is the 2nd greatest scorer in the modern era.

Theres a reason why they don't compare Kobe to the likes of Lebron or Durant and thats because Kobe eats those ni99as up, he's on a complaetely different plane

LA_Showtime
07-09-2011, 05:49 PM
Uh, Kobe has consistently made his teammates better... this shouldn't even be up for discussion really.

The-Legend-24
07-09-2011, 05:52 PM
You're purposely ignoring a guys longstanding reputation for being a ball hog and a chucker, and I get that. At least I'll acknowledge the guy as an all-time great, despite disliking him as a player immensely. Meanwhile, you're feigning ignorance to established fact and the reality of issues that have spawned criticism and maligned his career for years. I get that you have a hard-on for the guy, but come on. Throwing percentages at people doesn't revise history.

Perhaps if he hadn't put up the solid numbers you're lauding, was a better distributor and involved his teammates more that '05-'06 first round exit you're praising might have been something more. The guy doesn't make the people around him better. It's as simple as that.

Now you're disputing that those were Pau Gasol's Grizzlies? Tell me, whose were they? Battiers? Eddie Jones', perhaps? In your skewed perception of the NBA, does the person who puts up the most impressive stat line attain leadership status? That's what it sounds like.

2005-2006 is one of the great highlights of his career? Because he played 1-on-5 for an entire season? You're aware this is the same year he was criticized for seemingly quitting against Phoenix in the playoffs? Are you being stubborn and revisionist on purpose, or is this the unfortunate result of deeper seated issues? I'm genuinely perplexed.

The fact that you scoff when I suggest players have done more with teams boasting inferior supporting casts sort of kills your credibility in a myriad of ways. You genuinely believe Kobe had it tougher in '05-'06 than any other star player who hobbled into the playoffs with a sub-par group of guys. You and I both know that isn't true.
I'm not gonna lie
http://i56.tinypic.com/2jfg08h.gif

Calabis
07-09-2011, 05:55 PM
ni99as have to compare Kobe to Jordan to downgrade him, Kobe is the 2nd greatest scorer in the modern era.

Theres a reason why they don't compare Kobe to the likes of Lebron or Durant and thats because Kobe eats those ni99as up, he's on a complaetely different plane

Yes which is why I think he is the greatest individual player of his generation and a top 10 all time great....but that is seen as Kobe hate, we need 30 threads a day about why he is better than everyone else and let's tear down the others to bolster our Kobe claims

AMISTILLILL
07-09-2011, 05:56 PM
I'm not gonna lie
http://i56.tinypic.com/2jfg08h.gif

A) Lucky for you it wasn't directed towards you.

B) It's likely difficult to read others' posts when you're busy racking up another 500+ posts in a month.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 05:56 PM
You're purposely ignoring a guys longstanding reputation for being a ball hog and a chucker, and I get that. At least I'll acknowledge the guy as an all-time great, despite disliking him as a player immensely. Meanwhile, you're feigning ignorance to established fact and the reality of issues that have spawned criticism and maligned his career for years. I get that you have a hard-on for the guy, but come on. Throwing percentages at people doesn't revise history.
lol

Who cares what people think? We're talking about 2006. His TS% was 56%.

That's not chucking. Deal ith it.


Perhaps if he hadn't put up the solid numbers you're lauding, was a better distributor and involved his teammates more that '05-'06 first round exit you're praising might have been something more. The guy doesn't make the people around him better. It's as simple as that.

Holy crap. This is some ignorant shit. Did you watch the 2006 first-round? He played excellent team-ball in that series. And he averaged 35/5/5/2/56% TS on the season. He did everything he could. Maybe if he actually had a decent supporting cast, the Lakers could have been better. :rolleyes:

Guess you missed what happened when he had a good cast. Back-to-back championships.

As for not making his teammates better...just wrong. Parker, Odom, Pau, Kwame, Ariza, Cook etc are ALL guys who have played their best play next to Bryant and who showed their biggest improvement/best play during their time with the Lakers.


Now you're disputing that those were Pau Gasol's Grizzlies? Tell me, whose were they? Battiers? Eddie Jones', perhaps? In your skewed perception of the NBA, does the person who puts up the most impressive stat line attain leadership status? That's what it sounds like.
No, I'm disputing the idea that Pau was "carrying" anything. Those Grizzlies teams won through team effort and defense. Pau was doing nothing special.

18/9? C'mon. lol @ you acting like that's in any way, shape, or form comparable to 06 Kobe. You're deluded.


2005-2006 is one of the great highlights of his career? Because he played 1-on-5 for an entire season? You're aware this is the same year he was criticized for seemingly quitting against Phoenix in the playoffs? Are you being stubborn and revisionist on purpose, or is this the unfortunate result of deeper seated issues? I'm genuinely perplexed.
Are you retarded? That was easily one of the great highlights of his career.

He put up 35/5/5/2/56%. Made All-NBA 1st Team. Made All-NBA 1st Team defense. Led a horrible cast to 45 wins/7th ORTG/7th in SRS in a tough conference. Established himself as arguably the best player in the league. Had the greatest pace-adjusted scoring season EVER.


lol @ you boiling it down to going 1-5.


What a joke. :oldlol:


You genuinely believe Kobe had it tougher in '05-'06 than any other star player who hobbled into the playoffs with a sub-par group of guys. You and I both know that isn't true.
I'm scoffing at the idea that other guys have "done far more with less".

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

:oldlol:

AMISTILLILL
07-09-2011, 05:57 PM
lol

Who cares what people think? We're talking about 2006. His TS% was 56%.

That's not chucking. Deal ith it.


Holy crap. This is some ignorant shit. Did you watch the 2006 first-round? He played excellent team-ball in that series. And he averaged 35/5/5/2/56% TS on the season. He did everything he could. Maybe if he actually had a decent supporting cast, the Lakers could have been better. :rolleyes:

Guess you missed what happened when he had a good cast. Back-to-back championships.

As for not making his teammates better...just wrong. Parker, Odom, Pau, Kwame, Ariza, Cook etc are ALL guys who have played their best play next to Bryant and who showed their biggest improvement/best play during their time with the Lakers.


No, I'm disputing the idea that Pau was "carrying" anything. Those Grizzlies teams won through team effort and defense. Pau was doing nothing special.

18/9? C'mon. lol @ you acting like that's in any way, shape, or form comparable to 06 Kobe. You're deluded.


Are you retarded? That was easily one of the great highlights of his career.

He put up 35/5/5/2/56%. Made All-NBA 1st Team. Made All-NBA 1st Team defense. Led a horrible cast to 45 wins/7th ORTG/7th in SRS in a tough conference. Established himself as arguably the best player in the league. Had the greatest pace-adjusted scoring season EVER.


lol @ you boiling it down to going 1-5.


What a joke. :oldlol:


I'm scoffing at the idea that other guys have "done far more with less".

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

:oldlol:

Yeah, way too many "LOL's" and emoticons at first glance. Definitely didn't read. Credibility: 0.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 05:57 PM
:applause:

Gottttt damn, these are the posts that make 'ya soul burn.
:roll:

The-Legend-24
07-09-2011, 05:59 PM
A) Lucky for you it wasn't directed towards you.

B) It's likely difficult to read others' posts when you're busy racking up another 500+ posts in a month.
:facepalm And what it that suppose to mean?:oldlol: I got a girl and get pvssy when i want to.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 05:59 PM
Yeah, way too many "LOL's" and emoticons at first glance.
That happens when your post is full of laughably asinine bull-shit.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 06:00 PM
Uh, Kobe has consistently made his teammates better... this shouldn't even be up for discussion really.
Amstill's ignorance is astounding. What an idiot.

LA_Showtime
07-09-2011, 06:02 PM
Amstill's ignorance is astounding. What an idiot.

Kobe fanatics: "Kobe is great, but yes, Jordan was the superior player."

Jordan fanatics: "No, Kobe sucks and played in a weak era. He would be a glorified role player in the Golden Age of basketball. He's overrated."

AMISTILLILL
07-09-2011, 06:03 PM
http://www.sowal.com/bb/images/smilies/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn.gif

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 06:04 PM
:pimp:

rodman91
07-09-2011, 06:12 PM
Prime Kobe most unstoppable scorer of ALL TIME...for only white girls.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Dq9xOrW6GM4/SED4VUtYmsI/AAAAAAAAA3U/Im4nDh29d6o/s200/1275774523064713037S425x425Q85.jpg

AMISTILLILL
07-09-2011, 06:22 PM
Prime Kobe most unstoppable scorer of ALL TIME...for only white girls.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Dq9xOrW6GM4/SED4VUtYmsI/AAAAAAAAA3U/Im4nDh29d6o/s200/1275774523064713037S425x425Q85.jpg

http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/sht%20just%20got%20real/grand/oh_gif.gif

Theoo's Daddy
07-09-2011, 07:01 PM
http://gifsforum.com/images/gif/sht%20just%20got%20real/grand/oh_gif.gif

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

MaxFly
07-09-2011, 07:22 PM
So those massive stats are inflated because he had a horrible team? Oh, I see... :rolleyes:

That's like saying Jordan's stats in the 80s were massive because teams gave up a lot of offense and he had a horrible.... oops... don't want to get in trouble.

OldSchoolBBall
07-09-2011, 07:38 PM
most unstoppable scorer has only 2 scoring titles in 15 seasons lol....


* except for the playoffs

:oldlol:

So true. With the way these stans act, you'd think Kobe has like 7+ scoring titles and 30+ games of 40+ in the playoffs and at least 6 games of 50+ in the playoffs. But alas, some things are too much to ask for... :oldlol:

Kobe = GOAT scorer against scrub teams in the regular season. Roughly 60% of his 40+ point and 50+ point games came in 2006/2007, and the average record of the teams he scored 40+ on during those seasons was 39-41, and the record of teams he scored 50+ on was 37-42. GOAT scorer indeed. <snicker> :oldlol:

EDIT: On a side note, it's amusing to see MaxFly's clandestine love affair with Kobe now going on its 7th year. :oldlol: Dude pops up in virtually every Kobe topic making excuses, drawing false equivalencies with MJ, taking subtle jabs etc. Wish he would just come out and admit his man-love for Kobe. At least be intellectually honest.

Jacks3
07-09-2011, 08:24 PM
06-07 Kobe

2006
35.4 PPG/56% TS.
27 40+ point games
8 50+ point games
81 pts
62 pts in three quarters
4 straight 45+ point games
Multiple 40+ PPG months

2007
32 PPG/58% TS
19 40+ point games
10 50+ point games (only Wilt has done so)
4 straight 50+ point games
36 PPG/57% TS in second half of the year

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Now consider...

Kobe in that 2-year stretch had 46 40+ point games. The next closest player had...20.

He had 18 50+ point games. The next closest player had... 3. The rest of the league combined had 14.

Think about that.

Just imagine what absurd things this guy would have done if he was given that type of free-reign his entire career? Especially during his athletic prime?

I'm talking...

40+ 50+ point games
200+ 40+ point games
7-8 scoring titles
9-10 60+ point games
Multiple 35+ PPG average seasons

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

GiveItToBurrito
07-09-2011, 08:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WVEIb3opQY

What makes it even more impressive is that the Grizzlies were a pretty good defensive team that year if I recall correctly.

rule1223
07-10-2011, 10:36 AM
What makes it even more impressive is that the Grizzlies were a pretty good defensive team that year if I recall correctly.
yah the grizz were a solid defensive team but im more impressed by the variety of moves and elusiveness kobe showed on the offensive end. He basically scored every way imaginable.

Micku
07-10-2011, 11:30 AM
Kobe was awesome. The dude had no weakness on the offensive end except for shot selection, but still rocked. One of the most difficult perimeter players to guard of all time. One of the most unstoppable scorers of all time indeed.

Eat Like A Bosh
07-10-2011, 11:37 AM
I don't get why people are hatin.

Prime Kobe definitely was a dominant scorer. He was like the best impossible shot maker out there.

It's not his fault he had a shit team composed with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker. Especially in 2006, Kobe was worth 20 wins for them. At least! They won 45 games at made the playoffs with a team,a team that you look at now, most of those dudes aren't even in the league anynore.

If it wasn't for Kobe, will they even win 20 games?

Appreciate what all time greats do instead of bashing, cause as soon as they retire, you might regret it.

Hittin_Shots
07-10-2011, 12:02 PM
Now consider...

Kobe in that 2-year stretch had 46 40+ point games. The next closest player had...20.

He had 18 50+ point games. The next closest player had... 3. The rest of the league combined had 14.

Think about that.

Just imagine what absurd things this guy would have done if he was given that type of free-reign his entire career? Especially during his athletic prime?

I'm talking...

40+ 50+ point games
200+ 40+ point games
7-8 scoring titles
9-10 60+ point games
Multiple 35+ PPG average seasons

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

He had free reign when they were losing in the playoffs and when he didn't they were winning championships, why would you want him to have free reign?

Papaya Petee
07-10-2011, 12:05 PM
Most unstoppable, except.

Playoffs
When playin against tough defenses
When playing against LeBron, Iverson, or Wade
When Shaq is on his team.
When he plays Dirk

Mr. I'm So Rad
07-10-2011, 12:13 PM
He had free reign when they were losing in the playoffs and when he didn't they were winning championships, why would you want him to have free reign?

The reason he had "free reign" is because the team around him sucked, as with any star player they pretty much have the green light to do whatever when the supporting cast is not up to par.

When the team is good enough to contend, he doesn't have to put up 35ppg. He probably could've very well done it again in '08 but he didn't need to. And he still was 2nd in the league in scoring with 28ppg

If Kobe had never played with Shaq and had "free reign" from 01-08 he would definitely have more scoring titles, albeit less championships. So in the end it all worked out. I'm sure he would rather have 5 titles and 2 scoring titles than 0 titles and 7 scoring titles

Odinn
07-10-2011, 12:18 PM
Prime Shaq
Prime Kareem
Prime Jordan

Prime Wilt (mostly regular seasons, just like Kobe)

These 4 were more unstoppable than Prime Kobe.

az00m
07-10-2011, 12:24 PM
MJ'S roster.



No. Player Pos Ht Wt Birth Date Exp College
20 Gene Banks F-G 6-7 215 May 15, 1959 5 Duke University
17 Mike Brown C-F 6-9 257 July 19, 1963 R George Washington University
11 Fred Cofield G 6-3 190 January 4, 1962 1 Eastern Michigan University
22 Steve Colter G 6-3 165 July 24, 1962 2 New Mexico State University
40 Dave Corzine C 6-11 250 April 25, 1956 8 DePaul University
25 Earl Cureton F-C 6-9 210 September 3, 1957 6 University of Detroit Mercy
30 Darren Daye F-G 6-8 220 November 30, 1960 3 University of California, Los Angeles
23 Michael Jordan G-F 6-6 195 February 17, 1963 2 University of North Carolina
10 Pete Myers G-F 6-6 180 September 15, 1963 R University of Arkansas at Little Rock
34 Charles Oakley F-C 6-8 225 December 18, 1963 1 Virginia Union University
5 John Paxson G 6-2 185 September 29, 1960 3 University of Notre Dame
50 Ben Poquette F-C 6-9 235 May 7, 1955 9 Central Michigan University
6 Brad Sellers C-F 7-0 210 December 17, 1962 R Ohio State University
3 Sedale Threatt G 6-2 175 September 10, 1961 3 West Virginia University Institute of Technology
21 Elston Turner G-F 6-5 190 June 10, 1959 5 University of Mississippi
31 Granville Waiters C 6-11 225 January 8, 1961 3 Ohio State University
12-24 Perry Young G 6-5 210 August 4, 1963 R Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University


Mj was the best scorer of all time and in 87 he proved that with.....

Averaging 37 points per game

Also the next year with 35 per game with 60% TS.


2 games of 60+

kaiiu
07-10-2011, 12:27 PM
lol MJ scored most of his points in the no D 80s and the 90s without other star wings to compete for scoring titles

Samurai Swoosh
07-10-2011, 02:35 PM
lol MJ scored most of his points in the no D 80s and the 90s without other star wings to compete for scoring titles
MJ was just more dominant than his contemporaries, that simple. MJ was competing against centers for scoring titles, who are way more effecient. Kobe has more competition at the wing and guard positions, because a generation of players based their game off Jordan. A bunch of mini Jordan clones running around battling it out. Plus the rule changes to help guards and wings. The point you make explains why Kobe's the 2nd best SG of all-time, however.

ThaSwagg3r
07-10-2011, 02:39 PM
In this era, Jordan would average 35 ppg every season at the very least. It's not that the defenses are necessarily worse. It is that it is much easier to get to the line now a days than it was back in the day.

Simply put? Jordan was a better scorer than Kobe ever was.

Solid Snake
07-10-2011, 02:40 PM
If you're the most unstoppable scorer of all time, then you'd have MULTIPLE scoring titles.

AlphaWolf24
07-10-2011, 02:41 PM
Kobe does own Jordan with the following:

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/225586_214972235188293_147262525292598_785033_6846 633_n.jpg

and this:

http://www.technobaboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Kobe-Bryant-after-loss-to-dallas-mavericks.jpg


MJ = 5 Losing seasons (below .500)



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knickswin
07-10-2011, 02:42 PM
He was definitely one of the most unstoppable scorers in the league during his peak, but TMac gave him a run for his money.

And Kobe was way more unstoppable than Durant.

AlphaWolf24
07-10-2011, 02:44 PM
In this era, Jordan would average 35 ppg every season at the very least. It's not that the defenses are necessarily worse. It is that it is much easier to get to the line now a days than it was back in the day.

Simply put? Jordan was a better scorer than Kobe ever was.

MJ = 42% FG in the modern era....(same age Grant Hill and Kidd were...so stop the too old sh!t):lol


MJ took more shots then Kobe also in a easier era....



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AMISTILLILL
07-10-2011, 02:46 PM
I don't get why people are hatin.

Prime Kobe definitely was a dominant scorer. He was like the best impossible shot maker out there.

It's not his fault he had a shit team composed with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker. Especially in 2006, Kobe was worth 20 wins for them. At least! They won 45 games at made the playoffs with a team,a team that you look at now, most of those dudes aren't even in the league anynore.

If it wasn't for Kobe, will they even win 20 games?

Appreciate what all time greats do instead of bashing, cause as soon as they retire, you might regret it.

Definitely won't regret it. I'm throwing a farewell party the day Kobe Bryant retires and you're all invited. We're going to have four different types of chips.

ThaSwagg3r
07-10-2011, 02:46 PM
MJ = 42% FG in the modern era....(same age Grant Hill and Kidd were...so stop the too old sh!t):lol


MJ took more shots then Kobe also in a easier era....



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Based on what? Your ass? Jordan has a higher TS% and eFG% if you want to adjust.

jlauber
07-10-2011, 02:47 PM
Prime Shaq
Prime Kareem
Prime Jordan

Prime Wilt (mostly regular seasons, just like Kobe)

These 4 were more unstoppable than Prime Kobe.

A PRIME "scoring" Wilt averaged 34 ppg and 27 rpg on 51% shooting (in leagues that shot 43% on average) in his first SIX post-seasons...with post-seasons as high as 37.0 ppg and THREE playoff series of 37, 37, and 39 ppg. He also had FOUR 50+ point games in the playoffs, and several 40.

Just against Russell alone, he had FOUR 40-30 games, FOUR series of over 30 ppg, a 50-35 "must-win" game five in '60, a "must-win 46-34 game five in '66, and even a 30 ppg - 31 rpg seven game series against him. Later, he also had a TRIPLE DOUBLE series against Russell, outscoring Russell per game, 22-10, outrebounding him, per game, 32-23, outassisting him, per game, 10-6, and outshooting him from the field, .556 to .358.

I could go on, but even in Wilt's first NINE seasons...COMBINED, he averaged 29.3 ppg, 26.6 rpg, 4.8 apg, shot .518 (again, in league's that shot around .430) and probably blocked 8+ bpg in the POST-SEASON.

So, once-and-for-all, let's dispense with this MYTH that Wilt's post-season play declined significantly. In his "scoring" prime, there have only been a couple of other players in NBA history that could match his pure scoring. And NO ONE else could equal his rebounding.

jlauber
07-10-2011, 02:51 PM
Career playoff scoring average ... not 6 or 7 years.

What an idiot, old man.

:facepalm

Hmmm...the OP mentioned a PRIME Kobe...

And to be honest, it didn't even mention playoff scoring either. If we go strictly on PRIME scoring...well, give me the names of the players that averaged 40 ppg over the course of their SEVEN best seasons...COMBINED?

now, who is the REAL idiot here?

:facepalm

AMISTILLILL
07-10-2011, 02:52 PM
Bait thread is bait thread.

AlphaWolf24
07-10-2011, 02:53 PM
Based on what? Your ass? Jordan has a higher TS% and eFG% if you want to adjust.


based on him shooting 41%....
the whole "MJ in this era would average 35+.." is bull....

history proved his scoring and FG% dropped off as the 90's wore on....and he shot horrible in the 2000's

2 totally different era's.....

This is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during MJ's era(1985-1998).

Michael Jordan - 6 times
Chris Mullen - 6 times
Adrian Dantley - 4 times
Kiki Vandewedge - 4 times
Reggie Miller - 3 times
James Worthy - 3 times
Alex English - 3 times
Dale Ellis - 3 times
Magic Johnson - 2 times
Penny Hardaway - 2 times
Kevin Johnson - 2 times
Clyde Drexler - 2 times
Cedric Ceballos - 2 times
Mark Aguirre - 2 times
Gary Payton - once
Byron Scott - once
Rolando Blackman - once
Walter Davis - once
Jeff Hornacek - once
Otis Birdsong - once
Jeff Malone - once
George Gervin - once
Drazen Petrovic - once
Reggie Lewis - once
Derek Smith - once
Scottie Pippen - once



And here is the list of guards/small forwards who shot over 50% and had 20+ PPG during the post-Lockout era(2000-2010).

Lebron James - once
Chris Paul - once
Tony Parker - once
Monta Ellis - once
Shawn Marion - once


So in MJ's era it was done 56 times by 26 different players.

In the last 11 years, it has been done only 5 times by 5 different players.

jlauber
07-10-2011, 02:59 PM
Still you ...

MJ > Wilt (regular season)
MJ >>> Wilt (playoffs)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v496/MitchMatch/tumblr_lifjn3jWAz1qhjerpo1_400.gif

So, a PRIME Jordan averaged 39.4 ppg in his first seven seasons, combined...then? He had the FOUR highest scoring seasons in NBA history? He had two seasons of over 40+ ppg and even one of over 50 ppg? He had SIX 70+ point games, including one of 100? He had 32 60 point games? He had 118 50 point games? Or 271 40 point games?

I guess I better recheck the RECORD BOOK then. Last time I looked, I didn't read ANY of that.

jlauber
07-10-2011, 03:00 PM
Right ... and that doesn't take into account age, correct?

The older you are the less legs you have, which affects jumpers.

The older you are the less you get to the basket, which can also affect FG %

You're logic is remedial.

Given your logic, Kevin Durant will be a better scorer than Kobe Bryant. Simply due to "era"

:oldlol:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

I see you make EXCUSES for MJ, but none for Wilt. Typical.

jlauber
07-10-2011, 03:01 PM
Career ... :facepalm

Once again...OP stated PRIME...

nothing there about CAREER that I can see.

NOR Post-season, either.

:facepalm

knickswin
07-10-2011, 03:06 PM
seriously jlauber, can you stop with your Wilt trolling?

AMISTILLILL
07-10-2011, 03:08 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view5/2280278/roller-blade-rap-o.gif

AlphaWolf24
07-10-2011, 03:58 PM
Right ... and that doesn't take into account age, correct?

The older you are the less legs you have, which affects jumpers.

The older you are the less you get to the basket, which can also affect FG %

You're logic is remedial.

Given your logic, Kevin Durant will be a better scorer than Kobe Bryant. Simply due to "era"

:oldlol:


Give it up already...your cliche excuses are tired and silly...

Legs???....of course age plays in...but your whole "legs" excuse is Bunk.

Shooting is muscle memory through repitition and mental preparation more then using the "strungth in your lugz"


Jordan who was 38 came back after resting his Body for 2 years much like he did in 1995....and he still was in great shape working out with Tim Grover since the mid 90's...



could he attack from anywhere??...of course not , but the 2000's MJ was very similar to the the late 90's version who used footwork and position to create his shot....

except Craig Ehlo and John Starks weren't guarding him....so he shot pretty bad...maybe the worst ever for a 20PPG SG:lol

jlauber
07-10-2011, 07:22 PM
seriously jlauber, can you stop with your Wilt trolling?

Yes...it is trolling to bring up Wilt in a discussion of the most unstoppable scorer of all-time. I get it.

OldSchoolBBall
07-11-2011, 03:48 AM
most unstoppable scorer has only 2 scoring titles in 15 seasons lol....


* except for the playoffs

:oldlol:

So true. With the way these stans act, you'd think Kobe has like 7+ scoring titles and 30+ games of 40+ in the playoffs and at least 6 games of 50+ in the playoffs. But alas, some things are too much to ask for... :oldlol:

Kobe = GOAT scorer against scrub teams in the regular season. Roughly 60% of his 40+ point and 50+ point games came in 2006/2007, and the average record of the teams he scored 40+ on during those seasons was 39-41, and the record of teams he scored 50+ on was 37-42. GOAT scorer indeed. <snicker> :oldlol:

Bring-Your-Js
07-11-2011, 03:57 AM
:oldlol:

So true. With the way these stans act, you'd think Kobe has like 7+ scoring titles and 30+ games of 40+ in the playoffs and at least 6 games of 50+ in the playoffs. But alas, some things are too much to ask for... :oldlol:

Kobe = GOAT scorer against scrub teams in the regular season. Roughly 60% of his 40+ point and 50+ point games came in 2006/2007, and the average record of the teams he scored 40+ on during those seasons was 39-41, and the record of teams he scored 50+ on was 37-42. GOAT scorer indeed. <snicker> :oldlol:

Lol, Jordan has as many 30-point games on 50+% shooting as Kobe has 30-point games total. If you take efficiency out, he's still a couple hundred behind.

imlmf
07-11-2011, 05:17 AM
are you trying to be funny or just downright stupid?

ILLsmak
07-11-2011, 08:43 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view5/2280278/roller-blade-rap-o.gif

lololol

-Smak

Jacks3
07-11-2011, 10:08 AM
06-07 Kobe

2006
35.4 PPG/56% TS.
27 40+ point games
8 50+ point games
81 pts
62 pts in three quarters
4 straight 45+ point games
Multiple 40+ PPG months

2007
32 PPG/58% TS
19 40+ point games
10 50+ point games (only Wilt has done so)
4 straight 50+ point games
36 PPG/57% TS in second half of the year

Now consider...

Kobe in that 2-year stretch had 46 40+ point games. The next closest player had...20.

He had 18 50+ point games. The next closest player had... 3. The rest of the league combined had 14.

Think about that.

Just imagine what absurd things this guy would have done if he was given that type of free-reign his entire career? Especially during his athletic prime?

I'm talking...

40+ 50+ point games
200+ 40+ point games
7-8 scoring titles
9-10 60+ point games
Multiple 35+ PPG average seasons

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: