06,09 Wade vs Kobe

[Ikill]

so who was better
06 Wade or 06 Kobe
09 Wade or 09 Kobe
06 Wade or 09 Kobe
09 Wade or 06 Kobe

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

so who was better
06 Wade or 06 Kobe
09 Wade or 09 Kobe
06 Wade or 09 Kobe
09 Wade or 06 Kobe

:cheers:

[N0Skillz]

09 Wade has no case over Kobe 09

[Ikill]

09 Wade has no case over Kobe 09
:lol than 06 Kobe has no case over 06 Wade

[N0Skillz]

:lol than 06 Kobe has no case over 06 Wade


Not true at all.
:facepalm :facepalm

[PJR]

:lol than 06 Kobe has no case over 06 Wade

Basically.

[PJR]

Not true at all.
:facepalm :facepalm


Why is is not true? The only player that was better than Wade in 2009, (strictly as an individual performer) was LeBron.

[Vienceslav]

Wade is 06 FMVP as Kobe is 09 FMVP , that has to count for something.
If you were to go by season stats then it is completely the other way around.
Kobe in 06 35/5/4
Wade in 06 27/4/7
Kobe in 09 26/5/5
Wade in 09 30/5/7

[N0Skillz]

I can prove this without even going in detail and just looking at stats


09 Kobe vs 09 Wade


Kobe
27/5/5 6FTA
Wade
30/7/5 10FTA

Wade has better stats but, the stats are SIMILAR on VERY DIFFERENT TEAMS WITH DIFFERENT ROLES. 3 Point differential.


06 Kobe vs 06 Wade


Kobe
35/5/5 10FTA
Wade
27/6/7 10FTA


Kobe has much better stats, and the difference is LARGE. 8 Point Differential

[Ikill]

Not true at all.
:facepalm :facepalm
and how is your shit true Wade had a good regular season and was legendary in the playoffs while Kobe had a legendary season and a good playoffs but his team sucked in 2006. Kobe had a great regular season and was great in the playoffs while Wade had a legendary season but his team sucked in 2009.

[ThaSwagg3r]

2006 Wade
2009 Kobe
2006 Wade - Really close though.
Toss up, Wade was more versatile that season, but Kobe's scoring was unreal.

[N0Skillz]

and how is your shit true Wade had a good regular season and was legendary in the playoffs while Kobe had a legendary season and a good playoffs but his team sucked in 2006. Kobe had a great regular season and was great in the playoffs while Wade had a legendary season but his team sucked in 2009.


Ok Lets look at the playoffs


06 Kobe vs 06 Wade

Kobe
28/6/5
Wade
28/6/6


09 Kobe vs 09 Wade

Kobe
30/5/6
29/5/5

[Odinn]

so who was better
06 Wade or 06 Kobe
09 Wade or 09 Kobe
06 Wade or 09 Kobe
09 Wade or 06 Kobe
:cheers:
This.:cheers:

[PJR]

Uh, no. In 2006 Kobe just scored more points. He didn't have better all around numbers. He scored more points on a much higher volume. On avg, Kobe took nearly 10 more shots per game. And Wade was also on a much different team as well, so you must apply that circumstance to Wade, if you electing to do so for Bryant in 2009.

[Boston C's]

09 Wade has no case over Kobe 09

:facepalm... if wades team wasnt ass he would of won mvp that yr over lebron

[N0Skillz]

:facepalm... if wades team wasnt ass he would of won mvp that yr over lebron
....if the nba wasn't blind kobe would have won mvp over Nash that year....:facepalm

[Ikill]

I can prove this without even going in detail and just looking at stats


09 Kobe vs 09 Wade


Kobe
27/5/5 6FTA
Wade
30/7/5 10FTA

Wade has better stats but, the stats are SIMILAR on VERY DIFFERENT TEAMS WITH DIFFERENT ROLES. 3 Point differential.


06 Kobe vs 06 Wade


Kobe
35/5/5 10FTA
Wade
27/6/7 10FTA


Kobe has much better stats, and the difference is LARGE. 8 Point Differential
Yeah how about Wade was scoring 30 points on 49% and 22 shot attempts while Kobe was shooting 47% on 21 shot attempts he also averaged 8 assists if Kobe averaged 5 in 06. No Kobe does not have much better stats in 06 he took 8 more shots and scored 8 more points Kobe still has the scoring edge but Wade beats him everywhere else. You can think Kobe is better all four times but don't act like its not close.

[Ikill]

....if the nba wasn't blind kobe would have won mvp over Nash that year....:facepalm
whats your point

[catch24]

'06 and '09 Kobe > Wade. Was a better shooter (from midrange, FT and 3PT range), played just as good man to man defense, and was by far more clutch. They're near similar rebounders while Wade is slightly a better play maker.

Wade has better shot selection, and playmaking, while Kobe was a more explosive scorer and was/is easily better in the clutch.

[IGOTGAME]

Uh, no. In 2006 Kobe just scored more points. He didn't have better all around numbers. He scored more points on a much higher volume. On avg, Kobe took nearly 10 more shots per game. And Wade was also on a much different team as well, so you must apply that circumstance to Wade, if you electing to do so for Bryant in 2009.

no body in the entire league thought that Wade was better than Kobe in 2006. Even Alnozo Mourning said that Kobe was better than Wade minutes after winning his first title.

[ZaaaaaH]

2006 Wade
2009 Kobe
2006 Wade - Really close though.
Toss up, Wade was more versatile that season, but Kobe's scoring was unreal.



LOL Wade more "Versatile" then Kobe :lol :lol :lol

Best One Today

[PJR]

no body in the entire league thought that Wade was better than Kobe in 2006. Even Alnozo Mourning said that Kobe was better than Wade minutes after winning his first title.

One of the great coaches and basketball historians, Tex Winter sure as hell did. Don't believe me?


http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/463/tex-winter-knows-basketball

[Jacks3]

no body in the entire league thought that Wade was better than Kobe in 2006. Even Alnozo Mourning said that Kobe was better than Wade minutes after winning his first title.
Yup. Payton said the same.

06 Kobe>>06 Wade
09 Kobe>09 Wade

Wade didn't surpass Bryant until Kobe left his prime in 2010...

[Phong]

One of the great coaches and basketball historians, Tex Winter sure as hell did. Don't believe me?


http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/463/tex-winter-knows-basketballThe article is from August 2005, what does it have to do with the 2005-2006 season?

Furthermore, this article didn't quote entirely what Tex said which was:

"All-around, [Wade] he's probably the best guard in the league. Individually, he's not as good as Kobe, as far as quickness and skills, etc.

[catch24]

One of the great coaches and basketball historians, Tex Winter sure as hell did. Don't believe me?


http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/463/tex-winter-knows-basketball

8/08/05

I thought Wade in 2005 was better than Kobe in 2005, too.

[ZaaaaaH]

no body in the entire league thought that Wade was better than Kobe in 2006. Even Alnozo Mourning said that Kobe was better than Wade minutes after winning his first title.


It dont matter for these Fanboys. They dont care about basketball all they care about is their **** size.

Funny thing is these fools think they know more about the game then the players do. :facepalm

[ZaaaaaH]

One of the great coaches and basketball historians, Tex Winter sure as hell did. Don't believe me?


http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/463/tex-winter-knows-basketball


This fool is gonna come up with ONE little article when Kobe was going threw problems. :facepalm

I can find 5 articles on Google right now saying Kobe is the best player since 2001 to 2009.

GTFO with ur dumb logic.

[NugzHeat3]

You can't say 09 Kobe is better than 09 Wade and then say 06 Kobe is also better than Wade.

It's contradictory.

I would take 2006 Kobe and 2009 Wade.

Both Wade and Kobe had great playoff runs in 2006 and 2009 but I think that's enough to elevate them over each other in those respective seasons.

[catch24]

You can't say 09 Kobe is better than 09 Wade and then say 06 Kobe is also better than Wade.

It's contradictory.

I would take 2006 Kobe and 2009 Wade.

Both Wade and Kobe had great playoff runs in 2006 and 2009 but I think that's enough to elevate them over each other in those respective seasons.

It's contradictory if you rank players based off accolades and titles (i.e., Wade winning Finals MVP + ring in 2006 and vice versa in 2009 with Kobe). Off individual skill-sets though? I think it's fair to say Kobe is a more well-rounded player than Wade.

Maybe that's just me though?

[ZaaaaaH]

You can't say 09 Kobe is better than 09 Wade and then say 06 Kobe is also better than Wade.

It's contradictory.

I would take 2006 Kobe and 2009 Wade.

Both Wade and Kobe had great playoff runs in 2006 and 2009 but I think that's enough to elevate them over each other in those respective seasons.

Why not? Because ur a Wade fan so Wade has to be better then Kobe no matter what?

Kobe was EASILY the BEST player in 06. Its Amazing how these young kids forget things so quick these days. No one was even close to being good as Kobe in 06 amazing how these fools are delusional and cant tell who can Play ball and Who just like to rack up stats.

09 Kobe was slightly better then Wade due to his finger and Knee with age but pretty Obvious who was the best Guard at the time and LeBron Kobe neck and neck being the Best Player. But Once again LeBron fails to make it to the Final with having the Best record and Pointing fingers at his teammates for their failure.

[All Net]

2006 kobe was on a different level. Dude was amazing that year.

[All Net]

:applause:

Yup. Payton said the same.

06 Kobe>>06 Wade
09 Kobe>09 Wade

Wade didn't surpass Bryant until Kobe left his prime in 2010...

Agree with this.

Injures has really Hurt Kobe the past two years.

[NugzHeat3]

It's contradictory if you rank players based off accolades and titles (i.e., Wade winning Finals MVP + ring in 2006 and vice versa in 2009 with Kobe). Off individual skill-sets though? I think it's fair to say Kobe is a more well-rounded player than Wade.

Maybe that's just me though?

The main argument for 09 Kobe over 09 Wade is Kobe's playoff run which was definitely superior (not just the championship or accolades per say but the performance itself) but 06 Wade had a playoff run much superior to Kobe's as well who I thought was rather subpar against the Suns defense given what he had achieved in the season.

It doesn't add up to me.

If you base it on individual skill-set Kobe is better than Wade right now too and that's really not the case.

[NugzHeat3]

Why not? Because ur a Wade fan so Wade has to be better then Kobe no matter what?

Kobe was EASILY the BEST player in 06. Its Amazing how these young kids forget things so quick these days. No one was even close to being good as Kobe in 06 amazing how these fools are delusional and cant tell who can Play ball and Who just like to rack up stats.

09 Kobe was slightly better then Wade due to his finger and Knee with age but pretty Obvious who was the best Guard at the time and LeBron Kobe neck and neck being the Best Player. But Once again LeBron fails to make it to the Final with having the Best record and Pointing fingers at his teammates for their failure.
I didn't say Wade was better than Kobe in 2006. I said I would take Kobe in 2006 and Wade in 2009.

Did that post hurt your feelings?

[Jacks3]

06 Kobe could have very easily averaged 35 PPG against that Suns team, but the Lakers would have lost in 4-5 games. He completely changed his style and became more of a play-maker/passer to take advantage of the Suns interior D and it nearly worked. Lakers were a rebound away from winning that series. It wasn't a sub-par series at all.

[ShaqAttack3234]

I have them like this.

2006 Kobe>2006 Wade
2006 Kobe>2009 Wade
2009 Wade>2009 Kobe(though it's very close)
2009 Kobe>2006 Wade


06 Kobe could have very easily averaged 35 PPG against that Suns team, but the Lakers would have lost in 4-5 games. He completely changed his style and became more of a play-maker/passer to take advantage of the Suns interior D and it nearly worked. Lakers were a rebound away from winning that series. It wasn't a sub-par series at all.

Agreed and he came through with a big scoring game to nearly end it in game 6. Almost closed out the team with 50. He carried the team out of necessity and when he finally had another player playing like a borderline all-star in the second half(Odom), the Lakers were on pace for over 50 wins. But in the first half, Odom was his usual inconsistent self and after Kobe and Odom, the Lakers didn't have much. Smush Parker and Chris Mihm were pretty much it, and Mihm got injured and only played 13 games in the second half.

[ThaSwagg3r]

I find 06 Kobe very overrated. Maybe it is just me but I found Kobe's 08 and 09 season much more impressive than Kobe's 06 season. Sure Kobe scored a lot better in 06, but he did a lot of other things better in 08 and 09. I like versatility and the overall package in my players.

Dwyane Wade was the best player in the world after the 2005-2006 season.

I would have no problem with someone putting 09 Kobe over 06 Wade, but I do have a problem with someone putting 06 Kobe over 06 Wade.

[IGOTGAME]

I find 06 Kobe very overrated. Maybe it is just me but I found Kobe's 08 and 09 season much more impressive than Kobe's 06 season. Sure Kobe scored a lot better in 06, but he did a lot of other things better in 08 and 09. I like versatility and the overall package in my players.

Dwyane Wade was the best player in the world after the 2005-2006 season.

I would have no problem with someone putting 09 Kobe over 06 Wade, but I do have a problem with someone putting 06 Kobe over 06 Wade.

how old are you?

[ThaSwagg3r]

how old are you?
Old enough to know there is more to the game than scoring. I watched Kobe in 2005-2006, sure it was amazing, but it is not like that was his best season ever.

[IGOTGAME]

Old enough to know there is more to the game than scoring. I watched Kobe in 2005-2006, sure it was amazing, but it is not like that was his best season ever.

Kobe was a lot better in 05-06 than he was in 09. The difference was the cast and role he had to play. No one put Wade even in the conversation with Kobe in '06. It is revisionist history to pretend they were on the same level. Wade had a great series in the finals and people pretend he was better than he was for the entire season. Wade was a limited player in '06.

this is even before we put in there defensive capabilities.

[ThaSwagg3r]

Kobe was a lot better in 05-06 than he was in 09. The difference was the cast and role he had to play. No one put Wade even in the conversation with Kobe in '06. It is revisionist history to pretend they were on the same level. Wade had a great series in the finals and people pretend he was better than he was for the entire season. Wade was a limited player in '06.
Limited in what way? Because he couldn't shoot 3s? Awesome, it's too bad he still shot 50% while Kobe was shooting his typical 45%. I really don't know why people act like being good at shooting the 3 is a necessary feature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU

Kobe was better in 05-06 than he was in 08 and 09? Sure he was a better scorer, but that's pretty much it. It's not like Kobe couldn't score in 07-08 or 08-09 either, he just did other aspects of the game.

Let me ask you this, who is better? Kevin Durant or LeBron James, right now.

[Ikill]

Limited in what way? Because he couldn't shoot 3s? Awesome, it's too bad he still shot 50% while Kobe was shooting his typical 45%. I really don't know why people act like being good at shooting the 3 is a necessary feature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU

Kobe was better in 05-06 than he was in 08 and 09? Sure he was a better scorer, but that's pretty much it. It's not like Kobe couldn't score in 07-08 or 08-09 either, he just did other aspects of the game.

Let me ask you this, who is better? Kevin Durant or LeBron James, right now.
i agree the 3 point shot is very overrated

[chazzy]

Kobe was better in 05-06 than he was in 08 and 09? Sure he was a better scorer, but that's pretty much it. It's not like Kobe couldn't score in 07-08 or 08-09 either, he just did other aspects of the game.
What did he do in 09 that makes up for the large gap in scoring?

[Ikill]

Kobe was a lot better in 05-06 than he was in 09. The difference was the cast and role he had to play. No one put Wade even in the conversation with Kobe in '06. It is revisionist history to pretend they were on the same level. Wade had a great series in the finals and people pretend he was better than he was for the entire season. Wade was a limited player in '06.

this is even before we put in there defensive capabilities.
Of course no was going to put him in the conversation Kobe was in his prime had already won 3 rings and was hyped up as the next Jordan. Wade on the other hand was in his 3rd year and was a player no one really cared about. I don't think anybody at the time really compared the two.

[ThaSwagg3r]

What did he do in 09 that makes up for the large gap in scoring?
Kobe actually scored more in the 2008 and 2009 playoffs than he did in the 2006 playoffs. (30 ppg vs. 28 ppg) But honestly, I thought Kobe played better defense, made more plays for his teammates, and was more of a team player during those seasons than he did in 2006. I know that Kobe literally had to score 30-40+ ppg in order for his team to win in 2006. I still like team play, and I know I can't knock on Kobe for not being too much of a team player back in 2006 because he just couldn't do that if he wanted to win.

The playoffs to me is what separates 08 and 09 Kobe from 06 Kobe though. Regular season dominance doesn't hold that much weight to me. Otherwise, I would be saying LeBron James is the best player in the league and Rose is a top 5 player currently, which I believe are both false.

That is why I think 09 Kobe was better than 09 Wade. Wade was better than Kobe in the regular season but he wasn't better in the playoffs. Wade was just not that impressive in the 09 playoffs, he just wasn't. Sure he scored 29 ppg but he shot 44% which is completely below his standards. Wade typically shoots 49-50% in the field, 5-6% decrease is pretty drastic, that decrease is something Karl Malone would have.

I value the playoffs much more than I value the regular season.

[The-Legend-24]

I find 06 Kobe very overrated. Maybe it is just me but I found Kobe's 08 and 09 season much more impressive than Kobe's 06 season. Sure Kobe scored a lot better in 06, but he did a lot of other things better in 08 and 09. I like versatility and the overall package in my players.

Dwyane Wade was the best player in the world after the 2005-2006 season.

I would have no problem with someone putting 09 Kobe over 06 Wade, but I do have a problem with someone putting 06 Kobe over 06 Wade.
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/568/terryface.gif

[ZaaaaaH]

Limited in what way? Because he couldn't shoot 3s? Awesome, it's too bad he still shot 50% while Kobe was shooting his typical 45%. I really don't know why people act like being good at shooting the 3 is a necessary feature.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU

Kobe was better in 05-06 than he was in 08 and 09? Sure he was a better scorer, but that's pretty much it. It's not like Kobe couldn't score in 07-08 or 08-09 either, he just did other aspects of the game.

Let me ask you this, who is better? Kevin Durant or LeBron James, right now.


HAHAHA I love Geeks who always talks about shooting 50% Look here youngen.

Just like you said Kobe shoots his typical 45% and lets just say he shot 12/26 which is about 46% compare to 13/26 which is 50%.... SO you are crying about ONE fucccking shot out of entire game. Kobe miss ONE, Im talking ONE shot and you are sitting here winning about it. :facepalm


06 Kobe avrg 35/5/4

With Kobes Athleticism at the time he could of EASILY grab 8 boards per game if he wanted to be like JKidd/LeBron but People who actually follow his game can tell you Kobe plays his role then care about stats.

As for assist With Mihm,Brown as ur Bigs not much he can do especially Kobe gets his assist from Playmaking drawing double teams on drives but with Weak Bigs who cant catch and finish of course it is gonna hurt his numbers. Triangle uselessly ends up with Hockey assist from the play maker as well.

06 There was no One stoping this Man. He was MJ esq for sure. UNSTOPPABLE and UNTOUCHABLE.

[ZaaaaaH]

I didn't say Wade was better than Kobe in 2006. I said I would take Kobe in 2006 and Wade in 2009.

Did that post hurt your feelings?

:facepalm U mad ?

[catch24]

HAHAHA I love Geeks who always talks about shooting 50% Look here youngen.

Just like you said Kobe shoots his typical 45% and lets just say he shot 12/26 which is about 46% compare to 13/26 which is 50%.... SO you are crying about ONE fucccking shot out of entire game. Kobe miss ONE, Im talking ONE shot and you are sitting here winning about it. :facepalm


To be fair, from an 82-game season perspective, the difference between 50 and 45% is about one shot; however, when watching the games on a nightly basis, it's never this black and white. When Wade was shooting 50%, he rarely had abysmal shooting nights and when he did, he could make up for them because of all the 50-60%+ games (check the box scores from '09 to see what I'm talking about). Kobe on the other hand is more inclined to have 30-40% shooting nights (which is more than missing just one shot); of course he has his share of efficient exhibitions, but it's not nearly the amount Wade has.

[BEAST Griffin]

Don't forget to consider that Dwyane Wade is better defensively than Kobe Bryant.

[Jacks3]

Kobe was a lot better in 05-06 than he was in 09. The difference was the cast and role he had to play. No one put Wade even in the conversation with Kobe in '06. It is revisionist history to pretend they were on the same level. Wade had a great series in the finals and people pretend he was better than he was for the entire season. Wade was a limited player in '06.

this is even before we put in there defensive capabilities.
This.

lol @ 09 Kobe>06 Kobe. Not even close. 06 Kobe was better in every facet of the game. He just didn't have the same type of supporting cast. And boiling Kobe 06 to "just scoring" is just silly. 35/5/5/2/56% TS and one of the best players at taking care of the ball (9.0% TOV rate). And he made 1st Team Defense.

:facepalm

[Jacks3]

Old enough to know there is more to the game than scoring. I watched Kobe in 2005-2006, sure it was amazing, but it is not like that was his best season ever.
:facepalm

[ShaqAttack3234]

I would have no problem with someone putting 09 Kobe over 06 Wade, but I do have a problem with someone putting 06 Kobe over 06 Wade.

I think it's just a case of extremely different situations. Wade was a better scorer and all around player in 2009 than he was in 2006, but he had a crappy cast, and like Kobe in 2006, he lost in the 1st round.

The difference between Kobe's situation in 2009 and 2006 is obvious. His second best player(by far) in 2006 was his 3rd best player in 2009 and a distant 3rd behind Kobe and Gasol. Luke Walton was much less of a factor due to them having a much better SF in front of him in Ariza and the '09 team also had a big frontcourt giving them an advantage over teams.

You expect them to be a hell of a lot better.

As far as 2006 Kobe vs 2006 Wade. It goes beyond just being a better scorer. 8 ppg is a massive difference and he was doing things that were almost unheard of. 35.4 ppg is the second highest scoring average since the 60's then there's 27 40 point games, outscoring the 60 win Western Conference Champion Mavs 62-61 in 3 quarters, 81 points in a game ect. His offensive game was lethal. He had the elevation on his jumper and range to make the toughest shots imaginable(and he had to quite often), the moves off the dribble, the mid-range game, athleticism....all of the ingredients to make him the most dangerous streak scorer I've ever seen. Just being able to deal with all of that defensive attention and have the stamina to attempt 27 shots per game and play 41 mpg while scoring at that volume efficiently is historic. 45% shooting is good for a high scoring perimeter player, but especially one who makes that many 3s and shoots that well at the line, and that's reflected in his 56 TS%.

And he was definitely more than just a scorer, Kobe has always been a very good passer and given his offensive load, his defense was impressive in 2006. He still locked down some very good scorers at times.

Wade was great in the ECF and Finals, but when there's an 82 game season where Kobe was better by a clear margin, I don't think it's that tough of a choice to make because it's not like Kobe choked in the playoffs.

[zay_24]

Wade has never been better than kobe, stop it slime:facepalm

[Eat Like A Bosh]

In 2006 Kobe had a crappy supporting cast, but a more impressive individual season. But Wade won the title.

In 2009 Wade had a crappy supporting cast, but a more impressive individual season. Kobe won the title.

Of course a player will carry more of the load with a crappier team, that's expected. Even though they both lost in 7 games in the first round, those were the 2 seasons where both players arguably deserved MVP over their peers, Kobe over Nash and Wade over LeBron.

But overall if you ask me to pick 06 Kobe or 09 Wade, I'll pick Kobe because his season was more historical. Kobe was a lot better than everyone gives him credit for. Like Shaqattack said, playing 40+MPG while being the primary focus of other teams and able to get off 27 shots a game is impressive. Many years later, when you look back into these 2 seasons, whose season stands out more?

[N0Skillz]

wellll I missed alot =p

[Jacks3]

The whole "you have to take 09 Wade over 09 Kobe if you take 06 Kobe over 06 Wade" doesn't make sense. The context isn't the same. 09 Kobe was on a 65-team in the West. 09 Wade only won 42 in the weak East. That's a far, far bigger gap than the 7 game difference between them in 2006.

Anyone who watched 09 Kobe knew that he was coasting and that he was more than capable of completely turning it up a level if needed. You never really got that same sense from 06 Wade. The Heat certainly could have used it. Again, they only won 52 games in the East (only 7 more wins with a far better supporting cast)

[Boston C's]

Kobe was a beast in 06 no wade yrs can compare... with that being said i think its stupid to say kobes season yr in 09 was better then wades in 09... im not sure if we are talkin about the stats or the players... if its the stats then wade was better then kobe that yr and its not close but if were talkin about who was the better player then its kobe because kobe not only won the title but completely turned it on in the playoffs

[G-Funk]

1st round exits
06 Kobe>>> 09 Wade

Championship run
09 Kobe>>> 06 Wade

Swag!

[G-Funk]

It takes a lot more than 1 great season to surpass a legend!

[Ikill]

1st round exits
06 Kobe>>> 09 Wade

Championship run
09 Kobe>>> 06 Wade

Swag!
are you dumb like real talks are you like retarded in the ****ing head these Kobe fans are stupid acting like its not close.

[Ikill]

HAHAHA I love Geeks who always talks about shooting 50% Look here youngen.

Just like you said Kobe shoots his typical 45% and lets just say he shot 12/26 which is about 46% compare to 13/26 which is 50%.... SO you are crying about ONE fucccking shot out of entire game. Kobe miss ONE, Im talking ONE shot and you are sitting here winning about it. :facepalm


06 Kobe avrg 35/5/4

With Kobes Athleticism at the time he could of EASILY grab 8 boards per game if he wanted to be like JKidd/LeBron but People who actually follow his game can tell you Kobe plays his role then care about stats.

As for assist With Mihm,Brown as ur Bigs not much he can do especially Kobe gets his assist from Playmaking drawing double teams on drives but with Weak Bigs who cant catch and finish of course it is gonna hurt his numbers. Triangle uselessly ends up with Hockey assist from the play maker as well.

06 There was no One stoping this Man. He was MJ esq for sure. UNSTOPPABLE and UNTOUCHABLE.
It doesn't matter if he could of grabbed 8 boards he didn't end of story. Wade could of easily lead the 09,10 Heat to 50-55 game if he was agressive the whole season but instead he spent half the season trying to get his teamates going.

[G-Funk]

are you dumb like real talks are you like retarded in the ****ing head these Kobe fans are stupid acting like its not close.
:oldlol: don't get mad bruh

[N0Skillz]

1st round exits
06 Kobe>>> 09 Wade

Championship run
09 Kobe>>> 06 Wade

Swag!


QFT

[DMAVS41]

The whole "you have to take 09 Wade over 09 Kobe if you take 06 Kobe over 06 Wade" doesn't make sense. The context isn't the same. 09 Kobe was on a 65-team in the West. 09 Wade only won 42 in the weak East. That's a far, far bigger gap than the 7 game difference between them in 2006.

Anyone who watched 09 Kobe knew that he was coasting and that he was more than capable of completely turning it up a level if needed. You never really got that same sense from 06 Wade. The Heat certainly could have used it. Again, they only won 52 games in the East (only 7 more wins with a far better supporting cast)

Context please.

Wade missed 7 games
Shaq missed 23 games
Williams missed 23 games
Mourning missed 17 games
Posey missed 15 games

Using regular season records to judge a team is often flawed. The truth is that the Heat were the 2nd favorites to win the title going into 2006. Only the defending champion Spurs were ahead of them. They played a lackluster season for a variety of reasons including injuries and the Stan Van Gundy situation.

The team was barely over .500 with Van Gundy and was actually pretty dominant under Riley. Of course, it was under Riley and healthy in which the team won the title.

So lets not act like 52 regular season wins is a good way of judging that Heat team.



And yes, if you take 06 Kobe over 06 Wade....then you need to be consistent for 09 as well.

[Lucifer]

so who was better
06 Wade or 06 Kobe
09 Wade or 09 Kobe
06 Wade or 09 Kobe
09 Wade or 06 Kobe


the GOAT kobe for all. including the previous 5 and the next 5 coming up.

[Papaya Petee]

Those Kobe homers are unreal.

2009 Wade shits on 2009, he shit on him head to head, statistically, dominance wise, Kobe literally has no case over Wade in 2009, and if he does, then Wade has a case over Kobe in 2006.

[Vien]

I pretty much agree with ShaqAttack here.

2006 Kobe > 2006 Wade (easiest choice to make, ShaqAttack explained it very nicely)
2006 Kobe > 2009 Wade
2009 Kobe > 2009 Wade (but its very close, arguable)
2009 Kobe > 2006 Wade

[tpols]

My list:
06 Kobe>06 Wade
06 Kobe>09 Wade
09 Kobe<09 Wade
09 Kobe>06 Wade

And everyone saying their situations in 09 and 06 are totally comparable needs to stop kidding themselves. They had equal shitty supporting casts except the Lakers played in the much, much stronger west, and the Heat played in the weaker east. The Lakers had to play the 1 seed in a seven game series[and up until that point in history, no team had EVER won as an 8 seed in a seven game series].. and they lost despite Kobe playing brilliantly. The Heat on the other hand, played the fvcking hawks. The suns were a FAR better team than the hawks and it's not even close. You give Kobe the hawks in the first round and he easily drags his team past them[as he came within a hair of upsetting a much better team].. something Wade could not do despite how good he was all season long in 09.

[ZaaaaaH]

It doesn't matter if he could of grabbed 8 boards he didn't end of story. Wade could of easily lead the 09,10 Heat to 50-55 game if he was agressive the whole season but instead he spent half the season trying to get his teamates going.

Yes He could of but he didnt so people need to understand 1-2 rebound dont mean that much difference especially when it comes to player like Kobe who rather get Back on defense like a guard should instead of going for stats. But like I said Im not a big fan of stats so letting the geeks know there are other intangibles to the game.

Again if it was that "EASY" Why didnt he? I love the fact that you try to say Wade "Tried" to get his teammates going. :applause: :facepalm

Why 09 Wade is so overrated is because he Ball hogged and try to take over games and which he did for some. With the squad he had Wade had to ball hog so no hate there but I love when people say Wades team was just as Bad from 06 Kobe and thats False.

Beasly = Odom Give me JO, and Haslem over Brown and Mihm. QRich over Smush or who ever that Bum Squad had. QRich ova Rush.

Bottom Line Wade cannot touch Kobe PERIOD. Its amazing how Wade fan boys have some Balls to compare Kobe to Wade.

Its like MJ to Kobe and Kobe to Wade. Thats the Gap. So Stop Trying.

[Jacks3]

My list:
06 Kobe>06 Wade
06 Kobe>09 Wade
09 Kobe<09 Wade
09 Kobe>06 Wade

And everyone saying their situations in 09 and 06 are totally comparable needs to stop kidding themselves. They had equal shitty supporting casts except the Lakers played in the much, much stronger west, and the Heat played in the weaker east. The Lakers had to play the 1 seed in a seven game series[and up until that point in history, no team had EVER won as an 8 seed in a seven game series].. and they lost despite Kobe playing brilliantly. The Heat on the other hand, played the fvcking hawks. The suns were a FAR better team than the hawks and it's not even close. You give Kobe the hawks in the first round and he easily drags his team past them[as he came within a hair of upsetting a much better team].. something Wade could not do despite how good he was all season long in 09.
This.

[Jacks3]

Context please.

Wade missed 7 games
Shaq missed 23 games
Williams missed 23 games
Mourning missed 17 games
Posey missed 15 games

Using regular season records to judge a team is often flawed. The truth is that the Heat were the 2nd favorites to win the title going into 2006. Only the defending champion Spurs were ahead of them. They played a lackluster season for a variety of reasons including injuries and the Stan Van Gundy situation.

The team was barely over .500 with Van Gundy and was actually pretty dominant under Riley. Of course, it was under Riley and healthy in which the team won the title.

So lets not act like 52 regular season wins is a good way of judging that Heat team.



And yes, if you take 06 Kobe over 06 Wade....then you need to be consistent for 09 as well.
And their supporting cast was still far stronger than the 06 Lakers, even with the injuries. Oh, and they played in the East.

And no, Kobe 09/06 was a better basketball player than Wade 09/06.

:pimp:

[Jacks3]

I pretty much agree with ShaqAttack here.

2006 Kobe > 2006 Wade (easiest choice to make, ShaqAttack explained it very nicely)
2006 Kobe > 2009 Wade
2009 Kobe > 2009 Wade (but its very close, arguable)
2009 Kobe > 2006 Wade
Yup.

[GiveItToBurrito]

I'd have rather had Wade every year other than 2011 and 2008. There are situations where Kobe would be better though due to his outside shot and ability to catch and shoot. He's known as a ball dominater and he kind of is, but you could plug Kobe Bryant into just about any team and not disrupt their chemistry due to his all around offensive game, whereas Wade needs to be in a situation where he can dribble for a few seconds and then slash in.

[DMAVS41]

And their supporting cast was still far stronger than the 06 Lakers, even with the injuries. Oh, and they played in the East.

And no, Kobe 09/06 was a better basketball player than Wade 09/06.

:pimp:

And they won more games. And won the freaking title. You act like its at all comparable or something.

I disagree about both years, but I don't think it makes much sense to say one was better in 06 and then do the opposite for 09.

[NugzHeat3]

My list:
06 Kobe>06 Wade
06 Kobe>09 Wade
09 Kobe<09 Wade
09 Kobe>06 Wade

And everyone saying their situations in 09 and 06 are totally comparable needs to stop kidding themselves. They had equal shitty supporting casts except the Lakers played in the much, much stronger west, and the Heat played in the weaker east. The Lakers had to play the 1 seed in a seven game series[and up until that point in history, no team had EVER won as an 8 seed in a seven game series].. and they lost despite Kobe playing brilliantly. The Heat on the other hand, played the fvcking hawks. The suns were a FAR better team than the hawks and it's not even close. You give Kobe the hawks in the first round and he easily drags his team past them[as he came within a hair of upsetting a much better team].. something Wade could not do despite how good he was all season long in 09.
Two factual mistakes in this post.

The Sun were not the first seed.

The 8th seed Nuggets beat the 1st seed Sonics in 1994.

I admit that Wade didn't play particularly well against Atlanta. He ****ed up in game 4 @ home which would have put us up 3-1. Shit got me mad cause Wade/Bron in the ECSF would've been epic.

[Jacks3]

And they won more games. And won the freaking title. You act like its at all comparable or something.

I disagree about both years, but I don't think it makes much sense to say one was better in 06 and then do the opposite for 09.
It makes perfect sense. Kobe was a better player both years.

And that they won the title (gifted it actually) doesn't mean much. They still weren't close to the 65 wins in a tougher conference like the 09 Lakers.

[G-Funk]

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[Ikill]

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[KOBE143]

Kobe in all, not even close..

[TheBigVeto]

so who was better
06 Wade or 06 Kobe
09 Wade or 09 Kobe
06 Wade or 09 Kobe
09 Wade or 06 Kobe

Wade is a whiny beyotch who does not belong in any legit top 100 GOAT basketball players, but he's still infinitely better than Kobe.