Breaking Bad: Season 4 Discussion Thread.

[1987_Lakers]

I'm ready.

http://www.tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/large_breaking-bad-call-saul.jpg

[thatoneblackguy]

I don't watch television.

[1987_Lakers]

The walking dead > Breaking bad

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:no:

[1987_Lakers]

The reviews for Season 4 of BB have been incredible so far.

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/breaking-bad/season-4/critic-reviews

11 reviews with a 96 score. Holy ****!

[BankShot]

The walking dead > Breaking bad

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Troll :rolleyes:

[Bless Mathews]

I'm on the west coast, so I will be turning my phone and not getting on the net in 39 minutes. Bastard east coasters.

[Saintsfan1992]

The walking dead > Breaking bad

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:cheers:

[Saintsfan1992]

Im watching falling skies at 9 then ill watch BB at 10. :pimp:

[Kobe Jnr]

When its gonna be on?

Waiting to download it!

[NastaMaverick]

:D

[1987_Lakers]

My God, you can tell by that first episode that this will be the darkest season to date.

[dunksby]

When its gonna be on?

Waiting to download it!
I'm refreshing my search on three different torrent websites waiting for it to pop up :oldlol:

[Kobe Jnr]

iys up!1111

[Kobe Jnr]

Only thing I hate about new episodes, is that we gotta wait one week..

Theres a few shows I watched that I didn't hear about, and when I decided to watch it, I had like 3 season to catch up....

[Saintsfan1992]

Gus - cold bloodied

[Saintsfan1992]

gus is a bad mother f*cker

But why he do it??????

put in white please. :cheers:

I have like 3 different theorys

[Bless Mathews]

los pollos hermanos b..itches

that dumb a.ss didnt do a sweep, too many people saw him, he HAD to be disposed. duh

[dunksby]

Did they just shoved a "they be ok and be cookn" reassurance down our throat instead of a proper season premier? **** this shit!

[AznTacoLover]

Damn! We already have an early cliffhanger.Gus is seriously one hard mofoaosid

[1987_Lakers]

Did they just shoved a "they be ok and be cookn" reassurance down our throat instead of a proper season premier? **** this shit!

I think we are headed to a war between Walt & Gus. I have a feeling Mike will betray Gus & join forces with Walt & Jesse.

[dunksby]

I think we are headed to a war between Walt & Gus. I have a feeling Mike will betray Gus & join forces with Walt & Jesse.
Dont forget the cops and probably the Cartel as well by the end of the season. But my point was that apart from Gus slitting the retard's throat hence letting everyone know that our dynamic duo are ok again, this premier had nothing to present.

[Saintsfan1992]

los pollos hermanos b..itches

that dumb a.ss didnt do a sweep, too many people saw him, he HAD to be disposed. duh

Thought so, but I think it was more than that. :pimp:

[Saintsfan1992]

los pollos hermanos b..itches

that dumb a.ss didnt do a sweep, too many people saw him, he HAD to be disposed. duh

And LOL @ me stalking you but here you are commenting on my post :facepalm

[Bless Mathews]

And LOL @ me stalking you but here you are commenting on my post :facepalm


that was you? oh ok

[1987_Lakers]

http://i.imgur.com/qWcNg.png

[alenleomessi]

http://i.imgur.com/qWcNg.png
rip

[niko]

Anyone know a good place to see it? No torrent...

[zass]

http://i.imgur.com/qWcNg.png

LOL

[ZeN]

Thought so, but I think it was more than that. :pimp:
Maybe the fact that he f*cked everything up in the first place.. by not getting the job done with saving Gale and disposing of Walt..

[dunksby]

Anyone know a good place to see it? No torrent...
www.sidereel.com

[1987_Lakers]

Maybe the fact that he f*cked everything up in the first place.. by not getting the job done with saving Gale and disposing of Walt..

I lol'd when Mike pointed the Gun at Gus. He was caught completely off guard.

[Theoo]

nice episode guys why that gus he kill the chinese man !!! he was a cook to like walter and jessi could kill them and chinese man do cook major pot hole but a nice eps

[ZeN]

I lol'd when Mike pointed the Gun at Gus. He was caught completely off guard.
yeah.. i def. lol'd at that.. i was like: 'who exactly is he planning on shooting..??..' :oldlol:

[ZeN]

nice episode guys why that gus he kill the chinese man !!! he was a cook to like walter and jessi could kill them and chinese man do cook major pot hole but a nice eps
I was under the impression that he was hispanic..??.. :confusedshrug:

[RoseCity07]

Every episode is solid on is a good building block in the story. Too bad I didn't catch the last two episodes of season 3, but the premiere was great.

So violent though. I didn't know they could show what they did on tv.

[Lakerlove420]

Did they just shoved a "they be ok and be cookn" reassurance down our throat instead of a proper season premier? **** this shit!


Dont forget the cops and probably the Cartel as well by the end of the season. But my point was that apart from Gus slitting the retard's throat hence letting everyone know that our dynamic duo are ok again, this premier had nothing to present.

:confusedshrug:

I'm like most here.. I thought the season premier was great.
I am just a fan of the show though. I don't know how you didn't like it.
Just like when season 2 picked up right where the last one left off..
that is what happened here..
I watched it last night. Can't wait for the next one..

The Walking Dead preview that they kept hyping was only like 30secs..
Dude just smashed two zombie heads with a rock..
I love the show.. just a wack preview . .

(started The Wire yesterday too.. watched the first two episodes..
I can see how I could probably get pretty deep into this show..
gonna check more out tonight.. )

:bowdown: Breaking Bad :bowdown: G.O.A.T.

[Saintsfan1992]

Maybe the fact that he f*cked everything up in the first place.. by not getting the job done with saving Gale and disposing of Walt..

LOL @ him trying to get back on Gus's good side by trying to cook. :roll: :roll:

[InspiredLebowski]

Jessie's obviously cracking, he's probably going to make a move on Gus and get got. He really should've multiple times already.

[1987_Lakers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkTDilC-860

:roll:

[SuperPippen]

Bumpin' this maf*cka in anticipation of tonight's episode.

[SuperPippen]

Dammit, why is no one talking about this show?

Too busy talking about Jersey Shore and other trivial bullshit?

:confusedshrug:

[andgar923]

As if Gus couldn't get more gangsta. He pulls off the most gangsta shit of all, some epic gangsta shit. I just don't know why he didn't have an antidote with him if he knew of his plan.

And although I loved tonight's episode, I hate to nitpick, but I can't stand Spanish dialogue in shows.... just ****in terrible, fake and corny.

[Positive]

As if Gus couldn't get more gangsta. He pulls off the most gangsta shit of all, some epic gangsta shit. I just don't know why he didn't have an antidote with him if he knew of his plan.

And although I loved tonight's episode, I hate to nitpick, but I can't stand Spanish dialogue in shows.... just ****in terrible, fake and corny.
The cartel probably searched all of them so if Gus had brought an antidote they would have found it and killed him (or at least done something to him).

[andgar923]

The cartel probably searched all of them so if Gus had brought an antidote they would have found it and killed him (or at least done something to him).
They could've hid some pills in cigarette box or the powder.

[Bless Mathews]

Great episode. Gus is a hard mofo.

Like how they got his chain.

And I'm gonna type about the pink elephant in the room...

Don obviously killed Gus' lover back 20 years ago.... Why he is SO emotional..

It's obvious Gus is the most gangster homosexual ever.... "Not that there's anything wrong with that"-

[RoseCity07]

Another amazing episode last night, and it's what I've come to expect every Sunday night. This show delivers every time, and seems to get better as it goes.

So glad Gus got that as$hole back. Dude thought Gus would just get over it.

[RoseCity07]

Great episode. Gus is a hard mofo.

Like how they got his chain.

And I'm gonna type about the pink elephant in the room...

Don obviously killed Gus' lover back 20 years ago.... Why he is SO emotional..

It's obvious Gus is the most gangster homosexual ever.... "Not that there's anything wrong with that"-

Dude, holy sh*t. I hadn't even think about it until now. I thought that dude was just like a brother to him which is why he was so pissed. I now believe they were lovers. I hadn't even suspected they were gay, but now it makes sense.

I think Skyler is going to tell Ted that the money she gave him was from Walter's gambling winnings. They tried to make that a cliff hanger but I think she can lie to Ted about that and he'll buy it.

[chazzy]

good episode, talk about revenge

what do you guys think, alot of talk that mike was pulling up the gun to kill jesse at the end scene by the car

i re watched it and its kinda iffy, i dunno

here's a slow gif
http://imgur.com/SN6Vq
Woah. Maybe that "7forever" poster can make a thread on this and analyze it

[purplch0de]

good episode, talk about revenge

what do you guys think, alot of talk that mike was pulling up the gun to kill jesse at the end scene by the car

i re watched it and its kinda iffy, i dunno

here's a slow gif
http://imgur.com/SN6Vq

wow good eye

[Velocirap31]

good episode, talk about revenge

what do you guys think, alot of talk that mike was pulling up the gun to kill jesse at the end scene by the car

i re watched it and its kinda iffy, i dunno

here's a slow gif
http://imgur.com/SN6Vq

That is definitely what it looked like, wow. Maybe an acting error, but probably not.

[andgar923]

good episode, talk about revenge

what do you guys think, alot of talk that mike was pulling up the gun to kill jesse at the end scene by the car

i re watched it and its kinda iffy, i dunno

here's a slow gif
http://imgur.com/SN6Vq

Yeah... yeah... that's all fine and dandy. But what I really wanna know is, does Bieber have a crush on me?

[iamgine]

good episode, talk about revenge

what do you guys think, alot of talk that mike was pulling up the gun to kill jesse at the end scene by the car

i re watched it and its kinda iffy, i dunno

here's a slow gif
http://imgur.com/SN6Vq
Don't make sense though. He can kill Jesse anytime he wants. Why then and there?

Also, I just rewatched it again. It's a natural motion after opening the car's door.

[Tarik One]

Gus calmly leaving the bathroom back outside during all the mayhem was some cool shit

[Velocirap31]

I know Gus is bad and all, but he's pretty cool. I wouldn't mind him sticking around for a while (probably won't) and him and Walt sort everything out.

[Niytrus]

Skyler just opened up a world of trouble... Couldn't she just have threatened Ted to undo what she did with the auditor and threaten to go to the IRS with details on how he instructed her to cook the books? This is going to end badly...

And regarding Gus being a homo, I don't necessarily understand where the accusations are coming from. People are saying he overreacted, but watching your closest friend take a bullet to the head would make men many break down like that I would imagine - and who knows what kind of struggles they grew up with and overcame together - let's assume that they were as close as brothers. I don't think he could have been disrespected any worse that what happened then, don't think it has anything to do with his partner being his "lover".

I know if someone blew my brother's head off in front of me I would be emotionally devastated and want revenge, regardless if it had been twenty years or not... time doesn't heal those kind of wounds. I think those making accusations of Gus being a homo for showing emotion in that kind of situation have never had any type of close/brotherly bond with a childhood friend.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Skyler just opened up a world of trouble... Couldn't she just have threatened Ted to undo what she did with the auditor and threaten to go to the IRS with details on how he instructed her to cook the books? This is going to end badly...

And regarding Gus being a homo, I don't necessarily understand where the accusations are coming from. People are saying he overreacted, but watching your closest friend take a bullet to the head would make men many break down like that I would imagine - and who knows what kind of struggles they grew up with and overcame together - let's assume that they were as close as brothers. I don't think he could have been disrespected any worse that what happened then, don't think it has anything to do with his partner being his "lover".

I know if someone blew my brother's head off in front of me I would be emotionally devastated and want revenge, regardless if it had been twenty years or not... time doesn't heal those kind of wounds. I think those making accusations of Gus being a homo for showing emotion in that kind of situation have never had any type of close/brotherly bond with a childhood friend.

Solid post. Episode couldn't have ended better either...

[Tarik One]

Skyler just opened up a world of trouble... Couldn't she just have threatened Ted to undo what she did with the auditor and threaten to go to the IRS with details on how he instructed her to cook the books? This is going to end badly...


Skylar knew telling Ted where the money was from was incredibly stupid. But as usual her ego got the best of her. She couldn't just walk away, she had to feel like she "won". Now she will have to either lose in the long run, or have a man clean up the mess she created.

Any other rational person would have walked away, then carefully plotted his revenge. Perhaps go back to Saul to plan another strategy. Perfect example is Gus this episode. He kept his cool even while the Don mocked the murder of his "partner", calmly walked to the bathroom, folded his jacket and a towel and vomited out the poison as his enemies dropped one by one.

He didn't have run his mouth to make himself feel better like Skylar did.

Walt and Skylar have a tendency to not let well enough alone and need try to put people in their place at the wrong time when they feel they are being dismissed. This was the same as when Walt had to give Hank the tip that Gale wasn't the brains behind the blue meth.

Bottom line is that they're egos have spun way out of control and may ultimately be their downfall. Same as any other big time drug dealer.

[JaskoX1]

Skyler just opened up a world of trouble... Couldn't she just have threatened Ted to undo what she did with the auditor and threaten to go to the IRS with details on how he instructed her to cook the books? This is going to end badly...

Ted's reaction to Skylar:
http://k.minus.com/jbh0kB3rlgRvqY.jpg

[Niytrus]

Skylar knew telling Ted where the money was from was incredibly stupid. But as usual her ego got the best of her. She couldn't just walk away, she had to feel like she "won". Now she will have to either lose in the long run, or have a man clean up the mess she created.

Any other rational person would have walked away, then carefully plotted his revenge. Perhaps go back to Saul to plan another strategy. Perfect example is Gus this episode. He kept his cool even while the Don mocked the murder of his "partner", calmly walked to the bathroom, folded his jacket and a towel and vomited out the poison as his enemies dropped one by one.

He didn't have run his mouth to make himself feel better like Skylar did.

Walt and Skylar have a tendency to not let well enough alone and need try to put people in their place at the wrong time when they feel they are being dismissed. This was the same as when Walt had to give Hank the tip that Gale wasn't the brains behind the blue meth.

Bottom line is that they're egos have spun way out of control and may ultimately be their downfall. Same as any other big time drug dealer.

Great analysis - sometimes it's hard to remember that this is exactly what they are - drug dealers - it's just sugar coated because of the situation and where they came from. But great point because you are right, they are letting their ego's run the show and have lost focus.

[KevinNYC]

A lot of folks were thinking that Gus and Max were lovers back in the Hermanos episode.


So I think it is there.

If it does turn out that way I wonder how long the producers knew that about the character. Because the way Giancarlo Esposito plays him, the single dominant thing about him is he is a guy who tightly controls his emotions. Walter does too, but he fails and you see his emotions on the surface more. With Gus, he is much, much harder to read and if he is gay, you could say that he has had a lifetime of acting like that, trying not to expose his true nature.

He also has a history of "passing" as a friend to law-enforcement.

[iamgine]

Skylar knew telling Ted where the money was from was incredibly stupid. But as usual her ego got the best of her. She couldn't just walk away, she had to feel like she "won". Now she will have to either lose in the long run, or have a man clean up the mess she created.

Any other rational person would have walked away, then carefully plotted his revenge. Perhaps go back to Saul to plan another strategy. Perfect example is Gus this episode. He kept his cool even while the Don mocked the murder of his "partner", calmly walked to the bathroom, folded his jacket and a towel and vomited out the poison as his enemies dropped one by one.

He didn't have run his mouth to make himself feel better like Skylar did.

Walt and Skylar have a tendency to not let well enough alone and need try to put people in their place at the wrong time when they feel they are being dismissed. This was the same as when Walt had to give Hank the tip that Gale wasn't the brains behind the blue meth.

Bottom line is that they're egos have spun way out of control and may ultimately be their downfall. Same as any other big time drug dealer.
They don't have the same option though. If it was Gus, he'd probably kill Ted and burn all the books. :oldlol:

[Tarik One]

They don't have the same option though. If it was Gus, he'd probably kill Ted and burn all the books. :oldlol:

I think Ted is dead anyway. He's become too much of a liability. The question is, who's gonna whack him?

[KevinNYC]

I think Ted is dead anyway. He's become too much of a liability. The question is, who's gonna whack him?

Well the only one who knows is Skyler. The lawyer doesn't care. So it's going to be her unless she breaks down and tells Walt.

However, the series does seem to be about everyone moving over the line so....

[Niytrus]

Well the only one who knows is Skyler. The lawyer doesn't care. So it's going to be her unless she breaks down and tells Walt.

However, the series does seem to be about everyone moving over the line so....

Skyler went from wanting nothing to do with Walt and his business to moving front and center and basically running the business side of the operation - she has already made a turn for the worse, but killing off Ted would be quiet a stretch. I can't see her transforming into someone involved with a murder.

[NastaMaverick]

solid episode. had me giddy as f*ck, not gonna lie :lol

only complaint is how the hell did Gus know the guy was gonna give a shot to all of his entourage?

[Niytrus]

solid episode. had me giddy as f*ck, not gonna lie :lol

only complaint is how the hell did Gus know the guy was gonna give a shot to all of his entourage?

I think it was a risk he was willing to take - as long as he took out Don. The plan was a bit sketchy over all though, which is capped off when Mike says "I hope to god this works" or something along those lines, when Gus tells everyone they have no allegiance to a dead man.

[johndeeregreen]

Honestly I can't stand Skyler. Just looking at her. I find her to be just completely repulsive.

This season has lost its lustre for me. The show hasn't been the same since Walt came out of nowhere, ran down those drug dealers, and shot them. In terms of pure shock factor there isn't much that can top that, which is why Gus' demolition of the Cartel crew felt really telegraphed and tension-less.

[purplch0de]

The show is coming to a end in like 10 or so episodes...

[johndeeregreen]

The show is coming to a end in like 10 or so episodes...
19 actually.

[SuperPippen]

Honestly I can't stand Skyler. Just looking at her. I find her to be just completely repulsive.

This season has lost its lustre for me. The show hasn't been the same since Walt came out of nowhere, ran down those drug dealers, and shot them. In terms of pure shock factor there isn't much that can top that, which is why Gus' demolition of the Cartel crew felt really telegraphed and tension-less.

While nothing yet has quite topped either "One Minute" or "Half Measures" in terms of the pure "HOLY SH*T" factor, this season as a whole been fantastic, and my favorite of the series so far.

I use to hate Skyler, too, but she's slowly won me over this season, even if she is obviously preggo, lol.


BTW, here is the promo for next week's episode, "Crawl Space" for those of you who haven't seen it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK6vVDIetp8

[Kblaze8855]

As if Gus couldn't get more gangsta. He pulls off the most gangsta shit of all, some epic gangsta shit. I just don't know why he didn't have an antidote with him if he knew of his plan.

Watching it again on demand..

He took two pills standing by the pool before the cartel guys came out.

[KevinNYC]

Couple of Breaking Bad interviews

http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=13&prgDate=09-19-2011

Jesse and Vince

[Tarik One]

I just re-watched the final scene of the last episode and confirmed that Mike was NOT trying to kill Jesse at all.

Mike opened the car door and was turning his body to get in. As he did so he kept his right arm with the gun extended in case a shooter emerged.

The moment Mike was shot, he just so happened to have his arm extended in Jesse's direction. Jesse was going around the front of the car to hop into the passenger's seat and Mike was covering both of them.

He was not aiming at Jesse and had no intention of killing him. Gus and Mike brought Jesse to Mexico to cook the meth and to help them escape. Killing your protector isn't a good escape plan. Even if they wanted Jesse dead, Gus would have not prevented Jesse from drinking the poison.

[chazzy]

I just re-watched the final scene of the last episode and confirmed that Mike was NOT trying to kill Jesse at all.

Mike opened the car door and was turning his body to get in. As he did so he kept his right arm with the gun extended in case a shooter emerged.

The moment Mike was shot, he just so happened to have his arm extended in Jesse's direction. Jesse was going around the front of the car to hop into the passenger's seat and Mike was covering both of them.

He was not aiming at Jesse and had no intention of killing him. Gus and Mike brought Jesse to Mexico to cook the meth and to help them escape. Killing your protector isn't a good escape plan. Even if they wanted Jesse dead, Gus would have not prevented Jesse from drinking the poison.
Agreed, I re-watched it too and noticed the same thing

[SuperPippen]

I just re-watched the final scene of the last episode and confirmed that Mike was NOT trying to kill Jesse at all.

Mike opened the car door and was turning his body to get in. As he did so he kept his right arm with the gun extended in case a shooter emerged.

The moment Mike was shot, he just so happened to have his arm extended in Jesse's direction. Jesse was going around the front of the car to hop into the passenger's seat and Mike was covering both of them.

He was not aiming at Jesse and had no intention of killing him. Gus and Mike brought Jesse to Mexico to cook the meth and to help them escape. Killing your protector isn't a good escape plan. Even if they wanted Jesse dead, Gus would have not prevented Jesse from drinking the poison.

This is obviously true.

If Mike wanted too kill Jesse, why the hell would he do it when he knew that they both could come under fire at any moment?

[Clippersfan86]

Okay guys this show was just released on Netflix instant que. First 3 seasons. Is this show any good? Sounds like you guys like it but seem to think it got boring in latter seasons.

["Jesus"]

Only idiots think this show is boring. Do yourself a favour and watch this.

[Clippersfan86]

Only idiots think this show is boring. Do yourself a favour and watch this.

Is it like an intense drama or what? I read the synopsis but can't figure out an appropriate genre because I've never seen it.

[bballnoob]

Incredible scene between Walt and Junior in that last episode (when Walt discusses his one memory of his father). One of my few criticisms of the show is the lack of dimension to a bunch of characters but Cranston completely makes up for it.

The reason I think season 4's seemed slower to me is the fact that I started watching the show near the end of season 3. The way BB is made, the episodes flow together very closely, many episodes begin right after the previous one. Watching it once a week completely ruins that aspect for me and all the "buildup" for season 4 just doesn't work for me with week long gaps :confusedshrug:

[BankShot]

Off topic.... but I just saw Gale Boetticher in a lasagna commercial :roll:

[SuperPippen]

Okay guys this show was just released on Netflix instant que. First 3 seasons. Is this show any good? Sounds like you guys like it but seem to think it got boring in latter seasons.


Like many other people across the interwebz, I believe that this show is absolutely fantastic and is right now the best show on television. I've enjoyed every episode so far tremendously.

This is seriously some "Wire" or "Sopranos" level shit, in terms of quality.

Watch this show. You'll be glad you did.

[johndeeregreen]

This is seriously some "Wire" or "Sopranos" level shit, in terms of quality.

It's not even the best show currently on its network, nevermind in the same league as those two shows you mentioned IMO.

[SuperPippen]

It's not even the best show currently on its network, nevermind in the same league as those two shows you mentioned IMO.

In my opinion, and in the opinion of many others, comparing it's quality to either of the aforementioned shows is very reasonable, at this point. It's just that good.

And, although I'm a fan of Mad Men, I think Breaking Bad is just significantly better, and many others share that opinion, as well.

Unless you were talking about The Walking Dead in your post, because I have yet to watch that.

[Tarik One]

BB may not be as good as The Wire or The Sopranos, but it's up there. BB is Dwyane Wade and The Wire/Sopranos are MJ.

[1987_Lakers]

The Sopranos lost lots of its quality after season 3, it wasn't the same show. Breaking Bad has gotten better and better, that is very rare in television, usually a show gets worse after it's first 2 seasons, Breaking Bad just gets better. I think Breaking Bad can surpass The Sopranos, but not The Wire.

[KevinNYC]

Is it like an intense drama or what? I read the synopsis but can't figure out an appropriate genre because I've never seen it.

The genre is the teacher from Dead Poet's Society slowly turns into Scarface.
It's a crime drama and a family drama mixed together. Call it a crime-family drama.

[Clippersfan86]

The genre is the teacher from Dead Poet's Society slowly turns into Scarface.
It's a crime drama and a family drama mixed together. Call it a crime-family drama.

Awesome thanks. I'll try it tonight.

[andgar923]

:eek:

[SuperPippen]

Oh.......my........god......



Just..... oh my f*king god.



:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[RoseCity07]

Ummm so, where do we go from here?

[SuperPippen]

Ummm so, where do we go from here?

I don't know, but obviously neither Walt nor Jesse are going to die. For everyone else......... I'm not so sure.



The wait to find out is slowly gonna kill me.

[1987_Lakers]

The Last scene with Walt laughing was disturbing as ****. He is going CRAZY!

[SuperPippen]

The Last scene with Walt laughing was disturbing as ****. He is going CRAZY!


Intense, exhilarating, terrifying, disturbing, jaw-dropping, etc etc.

This show (and this episode in particular) pretty much transcends any sort of hyperbole we can give it.

I'm still wired, and the epi ended over 3 hours ago for me.

[andgar923]

Intense, exhilarating, terrifying, disturbing, jaw-dropping, etc etc.

This show (and this episode in particular) pretty much transcends any sort of hyperbole we can give it.

I'm still wired, and the epi ended over 3 hours ago for me.
c/s

[1987_Lakers]

The necklace Gus was showing to Hector...The All-Seeing Eye. Illuminati, lol.

[andgar923]

The necklace Gus was showing to Hector...The All-Seeing Eye. Illuminati, lol.


you got a screen?

[1987_Lakers]

you got a screen?

I don't, but that was clearly an eye on the Necklace.

[1987_Lakers]

Did anyone notice The Godfather reference in this episode? Ted slipped, hit his head and died then a bunch of Oranges just fell to the floor.

GF: The Don is playing with his grandson and falls over dead with an orange peel in his mouth.

[chazzy]

That was so f*cking intense

[Kobe Jnr]

Damn.. thinking how this show can go for another season...


Before I watch the episode, I saw 2 replies saying "oh my god" I thought someone was going to die, I was expecting Skyla to get popped in the head when she was talking to Walt at the end..

That black dude has said like 3-4 words since he's been on the show..

[Kblaze8855]

That was epic. That was what epic was before the overuse of the word diluted its meaning.

And its even more crazy to me because I just got a friend into watching the show and we finished the second episode tonight before he went home. I went from second episode of the first season...Hal still has hair and a loving family and nobody even knows he has cancer....to this last episode.

His life just got so very ****ed.

[Kobe Jnr]

Since Mike is on the sidelines for a bit, I can see Jesse killing Gus, or Walt doing Jesse..

So intense man.

The last scene my dog went hypo and was playing with the coke bottle, felt like kicking the dog in the head..

[Kblaze8855]

I read this on IMDB:

"did everyone see mike try to kill jesse at the 'hospital'?

by shartbomb 4 hours ago (Sun Sep 25 2011 20:35:16) Ignore this User | Report Abuse


its really quick but its there. when jesse is about to leave with gus, mike wakes up for a split second, points his gun at jesse, and then passed back out from his wound. you have to play the scene at like 1/100th speed but its totally there."


Someone else said:

"Not to mention that the blood provided for Jesse was clearly poisoned.

Look at the color, that's not the color of normal blood, that's the color of poisoned blood. Mike would have shot him and then explained it as someone else shooting him, and then brought him there to "get help" where he would be given the poisoned blood and then die in the hospital. Then they could show surveillance footage of it to Walt where Jesse was brought in with a gunshot wound and they tried their best to save him. It wasn't Gus' fault. The cartel shot him and they just couldn't do anything about it.

Genius, Gus. Genius."



I could see either being the case but...why would Gus want Jessee dead when he also wants Walt dead? I have to watch every episode 2-3 times to see everything.

[miller-time]

His life just got so very ****ed.

the thing is he never had a walking on air moment during the whole series. you know the point in a story where everything is going great and you are making money and the plan is working out. it has been one disaster to another the whole time.

[miller-time]

I could see either being the case but...why would Gus want Jessee dead when he also wants Walt dead? I have to watch every episode 2-3 times to see everything.

they are just taking the piss. it is in reference to last week where some people were actually under the impression mike was going to kill jesse before they drove away. sometimes people read way to deeply into the story or the actions of the actors. it never happened.

[Kblaze8855]

the thing is he never had a walking on air moment during the whole series. you know the point in a story where everything is going great and you are making money and the plan is working out.

Id say he had exactly one such moment.

The first couple days cooking with Gale. He had a contract for millions and he was totally safe. Then the cartel twins tried to kill him and shit got wild. But when he and Gale first started he was happy. They were sitting around drinking coffee and discussing poetry with happy music in the background. Only moment of the show he seemed to have stability and no problems.

[andgar923]

I just replayed it frame by frame and I didn't see Mike try to kill Jesse at all.

[johndeeregreen]

Why would they want Jesse dead anyway? He's no longer the thorn in his side whereas Walt has become a monstrous pain in his ass. There's no logic to it whatsoever. Eliminating Jesse would make Gus indentured to Walt, and as we saw tonight, that's the exact opposite of what he's going for.

Great episode tonight. It finally unravels (completely) for Walt. I can't wait to see how he's going to try to get out of this. Can he get near Jesse? Try to kill him? Ask Jesse for the money? Gus will certainly find out that the DEA has been tipped and that will obviously expedite the hit on Walt and his family.

One thing we saw tonight that we ALL saw coming was Skyler's blundering finally coming to a head. Not that Walt's track record has been impeccable to date, but that dumb broad REALLY f*cked them now.

[johndeeregreen]

"Not to mention that the blood provided for Jesse was clearly poisoned.

Look at the color, that's not the color of normal blood, that's the color of poisoned blood. Mike would have shot him and then explained it as someone else shooting him, and then brought him there to "get help" where he would be given the poisoned blood and then die in the hospital. Then they could show surveillance footage of it to Walt where Jesse was brought in with a gunshot wound and they tried their best to save him. It wasn't Gus' fault. The cartel shot him and they just couldn't do anything about it.

Genius, Gus. Genius."
That's absolutely retarded.

[Kobe Jnr]

On the imdb forums, and was reading a bit of it. When Walt and Gus were in the desert, Walt says " if you could kill me" and it's in Mike's voice..

I played it and its true.. didn't even realize it.

[johndeeregreen]

On the imdb forums, and was reading a bit of it. When Walt and Gus were in the desert, Walt says " if you could kill me" and it's in Mike's voice..

I played it and its true.. didn't even realize it.
It's not Mike's voice. It's one of those things where if someone suggests it your mind works to believe it. IE misheard song lyrics etc. But it's definitely Walt talking.

[RoseCity07]

Gus isn't stupid, do you really think he would give Walt a warning that he intends to kill Hank? I think it's a test. He knew Walt would get the warning out.

If Hank is under police protection, he can't be investigating the cartel can he? He could have done it to give himself time to move the lab. If I'm wrong, then Gus is a damn fool. He should have shut his mouth and killed Hank. Then Walter would have to just accept it.


I'm not really sure if Ted is dead or paralyzed. Also, they make it seem like Skyler gave up all the money they had. I thought Walt had millions under his house.

[johndeeregreen]

I'm not really sure if Ted is dead or paralyzed. Also, they make it seem like Skyler gave up all the money they had. I thought Walt had millions under his house.
I thought the exact same thing.

[Kobe Jnr]

It's not Mike's voice. It's one of those things where if someone suggests it your mind works to believe it. IE misheard song lyrics etc. But it's definitely Walt talking.
If you can watch the episode now, watch it.. its' his voice.

[johndeeregreen]

If you can watch the episode now, watch it.. its' his voice.
I did, and it's not.

[DropStep]

I thought the exact same thing.
They been spending like crazy. Car wash business, Hank's rehab,Walt's cancer treatment,Ted, Multiple Cars.Walt makes about 3.5 million a year and he hasnt completed a year yet.

Gus knew Walt was gonna go crazy. Now Walt is gone and Hank cant do his undercover investigation.

[Tarik One]

Walt couldn't have had millions under his house. His salary was 7 mil per year and has only been working for Gus for a few months. Take his YTD earnings and subtract the car wash purchase, Ted's loan, Walt's and Hank's medical expenses, there isn't much $$ left.

Nice little Godfather reference with oranges as Ted fell. By far the least appealing character

[catch24]

Definitely one of the better episodes of the show. Gonna be interesting to see how Walt goes about everything before the season finale.

[SuperPippen]

I read this on IMDB:

"did everyone see mike try to kill jesse at the 'hospital'?

by shartbomb 4 hours ago (Sun Sep 25 2011 20:35:16) Ignore this User | Report Abuse


its really quick but its there. when jesse is about to leave with gus, mike wakes up for a split second, points his gun at jesse, and then passed back out from his wound. you have to play the scene at like 1/100th speed but its totally there."


Someone else said:

"Not to mention that the blood provided for Jesse was clearly poisoned.

Look at the color, that's not the color of normal blood, that's the color of poisoned blood. Mike would have shot him and then explained it as someone else shooting him, and then brought him there to "get help" where he would be given the poisoned blood and then die in the hospital. Then they could show surveillance footage of it to Walt where Jesse was brought in with a gunshot wound and they tried their best to save him. It wasn't Gus' fault. The cartel shot him and they just couldn't do anything about it.

Genius, Gus. Genius."



I could see either being the case but...why would Gus want Jessee dead when he also wants Walt dead? I have to watch every episode 2-3 times to see everything.

:lol

The people who posted this are obviously being sarcastic and parodying the whole "Mike pointed his gun at Jesse!!!!!" thing.

[SuperPippen]

I did, and it's not.

Yup, it's definitely not.

Why people continue to randomly make up such idiotic theories that would make absolutely no sense whatsoever even if they were true is beyond me.

"OMG MIKE BRIEFLY HAD HIS GUN POINTED IN JESSE'S DIRECTION AS HE WAS OPENING THE CAR DOOR, OMG THEY WANTED TO KILL JESSE ALL ALONG!!!

[JaskoX1]

After last night, Breaking Bad officially became my favorite show. When Walt was laughing... my dear god.

[bballnoob]

After last night, Breaking Bad officially became my favorite show. When Walt was laughing... my dear god.

I loved the exchange with Gus' goon.

Walt: Did the laundry have to be dirty?

Goon: Nope

[JaskoX1]

Nice little Godfather reference with oranges as Ted fell. By far the least appealing character

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I love how Huell and ginger guy was just like "...what the ****?" for that entire sequence :lol

[Tarik One]

Name the Breaking Bad characters below. Sorry for the blurriness:

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy298/TarikOne/o0vz39-1.jpg

[1987_Lakers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gsuz96SSndE

[johndeeregreen]

Anyone else feel like that Ted sequence was either paying homage or hugely influenced by Tarantino?

[1987_Lakers]

Anyone else feel like that Ted sequence was either paying homage or hugely influenced by Tarantino?

I saw so many movie references in that episode...

The Godfather - The Oranges fall when Ted Slips

Fargo - Ted runs for it & fails miserably just like the wife from Fargo when she was kidnapped

Pulp Fiction - Ted's slip & the fat black guy saying it was an act of God.

Goodfellas - Walt & Skyler go crazy in the end, just like Henry & Karen do when Henry finds out she flushed the drugs down the toilet.

[Kblaze8855]

I noticed last night that the ginger guy is Bill Burr.

[SuperPippen]

I noticed last night that the ginger guy is Bill Burr.

I didn't know his name, but I immediately recognized him as the ginger guy who was in some Chappelle's Show skits.

:lol

[LA KB24]

Also, they make it seem like Skyler gave up all the money they had. I thought Walt had millions under his house.
Let's see...

- Hank's medical bills and rehab
- Walt's medical bills for his cancer treatment
- Paying the fake Heisenburg to take the fall
- Paying Saul for all those favors which I'm sure isn't cheap
- Car Wash
- $50k challenger, then destroying it and paying to get rid of it
- The PT Cruiser (poor kid)



and doing stupid shit like this, all adds up.


http://i.imgur.com/Q49yc.jpg


Also gotta keep in mind that while the show has spanned 4 years for us, it's only been like.. what less than 2 years in the actual time-line of the show? skylar was at least a few months pregnant in the very first season of the show, and that baby is less than a year old in the 4th season. So it's been maybe a year to a year and a half as far as the show itself. Walt met gus near the end of s2, I think, so I guess he could have had maybe a million or two by now. but he's also been spending a lot of that money...

[LA KB24]

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I love how Huell and ginger guy was just like "...what the ****?" for that entire sequence :lol
Ahahah Ted has to be the biggest dumbass on the planet. Really great way to add some comic relief into what is most arguably the most tense season yet. Can't believe they just wrote his character off like that, brilliant. :oldlol:

[SuperPippen]

Bumped.

Tonight's episode is gonna be (and I don't use this term lightly) ****ing epic.

I don't know how I'm gonna keep myself going in between seasons 4 and 5.

[RoseCity07]

I knew when Jesse's girlfriend said her son was sick that he had gotten into the cigarettes. I don't see how that kid could smoke it though. The poison is in a small vile. If it fell out, surely he wouldn't be stupid enough to eat it.

[RoseCity07]

Oh my god. I can't wait another week. I love this show.:bowdown:

[SuperPippen]

Not quite the heart-attack inducing ending that we had last week, but still a great lead-in to what's promising to be a showstopper of a season finale. Can't f*cking wait.

Man, Aaron Paul knows how to act.

:bowdown:

[entropy35]

Awesome. Finale should be epic, hopefully someone dies or something really big happens and they don't leave everything for the final season.

[Kensta]

How the hell did Gus know that there might be something going on with the car?

[Kobe Jnr]

How did Walt plant the bomb, when they had a dude waiting in the car park?

[Niytrus]

How did Walt plant the bomb, when they had a dude waiting in the car park?

Who was waiting? I didn't catch or notice anything like that... I saw both guys go in with him to meet Jesse...

[Niytrus]

How the hell did Gus know that there might be something going on with the car?

My initial thought is that Gus didn't poison the kid - but not sure how that will play out thought. If he didn't poison the kid, that would explain his reaction to the car, possibly thinking that it was Walt (or someone else), and that he might be going after everyone.

If he was the one to poison the kid, I can't think of a reasonable explanation other than he just odd about the situation...

[Kobe Jnr]

Who was waiting? I didn't catch or notice anything like that... I saw both guys go in with him to meet Jesse...
Ahh.. I thought Tyrus and Gus just went and saw Jesse. I thought the white guy waited in the car park...

[MMM]

The last few episodes were great and I can't wait for the next episode. I really enjoyed the Gus back story it made him far more likable as a character plus he is a gangster mastermind.

[Niytrus]

Questions after last episode:

1. Who poisoned the kid?
2. Will Walt be able to retrieve the explosive or will Gus find it?
3. Will Walt end up ultimately going to Hank if his attempts to get rid Gus fail?
4. Will Walt's cancer end up playing a role in his final decision? (thinking this has to come into play during the last season)

[Tarik One]

How the hell did Gus know that there might be something going on with the car?

Jesse tipped his hand when he actually told Gus that he knows that the kid was poisoned and that he refused to leave the hospital. After realizing this, Gus' rabbit ears rose up.

You have to remember that Gus has been in the game for years and is very calculating and suspicious of everything. So for him to go outside to rethink things because something just didn't seem right is no surprise

[Kensta]

My initial thought is that Gus didn't poison the kid - but not sure how that will play out thought. If he didn't poison the kid, that would explain his reaction to the car, possibly thinking that it was Walt (or someone else), and that he might be going after everyone.

If he was the one to poison the kid, I can't think of a reasonable explanation other than he just odd about the situation...


Jesse tipped his hand when he actually told Gus that he knows that the kid was poisoned and that he refused to leave the hospital. After realizing this, Gus' rabbit ears rose up.

You have to remember that Gus has been in the game for years and is very calculating and suspicious of everything. So for him to go outside to rethink things because something just didn't seem right is no surprise

Both great explainations.

[alenleomessi]

http://panzercrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/mind-blown.jpg

[iamgine]

Gus can't be the one poisoning the kid so Jesse will turn against Walter because that's would be a very idiotic plan.

[El Kabong]

Jesse tipped his hand when he actually told Gus that he knows that the kid was poisoned and that he refused to leave the hospital. After realizing this, Gus' rabbit ears rose up.

You have to remember that Gus has been in the game for years and is very calculating and suspicious of everything. So for him to go outside to rethink things because something just didn't seem right is no surprise
Pretty much. I think Gus is smart enough to realise that if Jesse wasn't up to something he would have reacted the exact same way he reacted when he thought Walt did it, which was to act completely irrationally and try to kill him on the spot. Jesse tries to pull a poker face at the hospital, but he still has a hint of accusing Gus in his voice, which Gus picks up on. Gus realises Jesse may be onto him (And may have potentially gone back to Walt's side) and knowing he's left himself vunreable and out in the open twigs that if it's not a snipers bullet taking him out, the next logical place is the car.

I've seen a lot of people who seem to think that Walt was the one who orchistrated the poisoning to get Jesse to turn against Gus, and had Saul swap out Jesse's cigs (When the big dude frisks him) with the ricen in it. Doesn't explain why Walt would need to steal the ricen off Jesse when he was the one who made the stuff in the first place and Saul, while a scumbag, most likely wouldn't want to be involved in anything that would cause a murder (too much heat for his tastes). I still don't believe that and find Walt's explination to be the most plausible.

[JaskoX1]

This speculation is worse than Lost. And Lost was constantly forcing conspiracies.

I don't think I've ever been this hyped for a season finale.

[niko]

I don't get why people think walt would poison the boy. It doesn't make any sense, when would he have done it, and it doesn't fit his behavior over 4 seasons. Remember, he saved Jesse when Jesse was mad over Gus using the kid, and accused Gus of having the kid killed. It doesn't make any sense.

[chazzy]

Maybe Gus noticed a glare off of Walt's glasses on his head. The camera kind of focused on them in the last shot.

[Ol Dirty Bastard]

this show is too intense for me. I almost had a seizure with that final build up from last night's episode.

best. show. ever. (next to The Wire/Sopranos)
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[johndeeregreen]

I couldn't believe that Jesse let on that he knew the boy was poisoned.:facepalm:

[Tarik One]

I couldn't believe that Jesse let on that he knew the boy was poisoned.:facepalm:

Even though Jesse has shown some grit, he is still new and inexperienced in the game, especially in comparison to Gus. He's only been in the game for roughly a year in real time, so you can't expect him to have those types of smarts and instincts so soon.

[macmac]

Wtf was Walt's plan with Jesse? If I was Walt I would fake my own murder, make Jesse run to Gus and admit to doing it, and then wait for a vulnerable spot, since there have been many so far this season

[johndeeregreen]

Even though Jesse has shown some grit, he is still new and inexperienced in the game, especially in comparison to Gus. He's only been in the game for roughly a year in real time, so you can't expect him to have those types of smarts and instincts so soon.
Has it really only been a year in realtime? That's insane.

[entropy35]

Jesse could simply say to Gus " i won't work unless everybody close to walt is safe".

Also what the hell happened to Heisenberg, hopefully he comes back with a bang.

[johndeeregreen]

Jesse could simply say to Gus " i won't work unless everybody close to walt is safe".
That's pretty much what he's been doing and look where it has got him. Gus isn't going to leave it alone until Walt is dead and Jesse is cooking for him.

[Ol Dirty Bastard]

can't wait for sunday!

promo:rockon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW921asea2g

is that Gus I see with a gun?

[Niytrus]

can't wait for sunday!

promo:rockon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW921asea2g

is that Gus I see with a gun?

Crazy... Looks like Jesse went to the DEA? Did not expect that...

[LA KB24]

How the hell did Gus know that there might be something going on with the car?
here's what I think was going through Gus' head

- If Jesse knew Brock was poisoned, then he must have known which poison; doctors don't use magic "poison tests," they have to look for specific chemicals.
- And if Jesse knew it was ricin, the first thing he would do is check his cigarettes, so he must know that it was his ricin.
- And yet, when Gus asked him how how the kid got poisoned, Jesse said he didn't know. Which means he doesn't think it was Walt.
- Walt was the only other person with "motive" to hurt Jesse, and he was supposedly the only other person who knew about the ricin. So if Jesse doesn't suspect Walt, it means he knows it wasn't Walt for some other reason.
- Which means that Jesse must know that Gus did it... but he didn't say it to his face in the chapel, just had this clear rage in his eyes
- Which means he's plotting something and didn't want to raise any suspicion while he carries out his revenge.
- Which means he had ulterior motive to act up and make Gus go out the hospital. And since Jesse knows that Walt is on his side, Walt is alive, and they have likely been in contact with each other.


He might have also seen the sunlight reflecting off of the glasses on the top of Walt's head when he was scanning the nearby rooftops.

And if Gus knew Jesse's blood type, he damn sure knew Walt is capable of making a bomb. So he ditched the Volvo.

[LA KB24]

Has it really only been a year in realtime? That's insane.
Yeah, I think the entire four seasons of this show have taken place in no more than a year to a year in a half, in BrBa time.

Remember Skyler was already pregnant in the very first episode, and the baby is only a few months old. And didn't Walt Jr have his 15th birthday in season 1, and now he's 16, right?

Also, there was that episode a few weeks back where it starts off with Walt in a robe, waiting to hear his results on the cancer, and he starts a conversation with some dude in the hospital, and tells him that he's been dealing with cancer/chemo kinda stuff for 11 months... or something along those lines.

["Jesus"]

here's what I think was going through Gus' head

- If Jesse knew Brock was poisoned, then he must have known which poison; doctors don't use magic "poison tests," they have to look for specific chemicals.
- And if Jesse knew it was ricin, the first thing he would do is check his cigarettes, so he must know that it was his ricin.
- And yet, when Gus asked him how how the kid got poisoned, Jesse said he didn't know. Which means he doesn't think it was Walt.
- Walt was the only other person with "motive" to hurt Jesse, and he was supposedly the only other person who knew about the ricin. So if Jesse doesn't suspect Walt, it means he knows it wasn't Walt for some other reason.
- Which means that Jesse must know that Gus did it... but he didn't say it to his face in the chapel, just had this clear rage in his eyes
- Which means he's plotting something and didn't want to raise any suspicion while he carries out his revenge.
- Which means he had ulterior motive to act up and make Gus go out the hospital. And since Jesse knows that Walt is on his side, Walt is alive, and they have likely been in contact with each other.


He might have also seen the sunlight reflecting off of the glasses on the top of Walt's head when he was scanning the nearby rooftops.

And if Gus knew Jesse's blood type, he damn sure knew Walt is capable of making a bomb. So he ditched the Volvo.

This would explain the 2 second shot of Walt's glasses.

[catch24]

I hope this season goes out with a bang. My gut says someone of great importance will be going down tonight :pimp:

[SuperPippen]

I hope this season goes out with a bang. My gut says someone of great importance will be going down tonight :pimp:

Of course, dude, it's the ****ing season finale!

According to Gilligan, Cranston, and Paul, tonight's episode is going to have multiple "A-HA, HOLY SHIT!" type moments, with at least one coming right before the final credits roll.

Sadly, I believe one of the surprises has been spoiled for me.

Still can't wait for tonight, though!

[Ol Dirty Bastard]

http://www.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/BB-Skyler-White-S4-590-284x184.jpg

Who else thinks this broad is going to be a huge factor in Walter's downfall?

[SuperPippen]

http://www.amctv.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/BB-Skyler-White-S4-590-284x184.jpg

Who else thinks this broad is going to be a huge factor in Walter's downfall?

I don't know. Possibly. We've already seen the consequences of some of Skylar's actions.

But, to be honest, all the Skylar hate has gotten old. I hated her a lot for the first 3 seasons, when she was nothing but a naggy bitch, but she's redeemed herself this season. I don't dislike her anymore.

And I think the show has done a terrific job of slowly showing how right these two are for each other. They're both very intelligent, resourceful, hot-headed, prideful people, only Walter wasn't like that at the beginning of the series because he'd had the clamps of domesticity put upon him (presumably by Skylar) to tame him.

[catch24]

Of course, dude, it's the ****ing season finale!

According to Gilligan, Cranston, and Paul, tonight's episode is going to have multiple "A-HA, HOLY SHIT!" type moments, with at least one coming right before the final credits roll.

Sadly, I believe one of the surprises has been spoiled for me.

Still can't wait for tonight, though!

No doubt, man. It's just sometimes these season finales are slow and will leave you with a cliff hanger. I've seen it time and time again. Hopefully BB is the exception. Can't wait!

[macmac]

No doubt, man. It's just sometimes these season finales are slow and will leave you with a cliff hanger. I've seen it time and time again. Hopefully BB is the exception. Can't wait!

When has there been a slow BB season finale? or are you comparing this show with Jersey Shore and big bang theory?

[catch24]

When has there been a slow BB season finale? or are you comparing this show with Jersey Shore and big bang theory?

I wasn't talking about BB, just referencing most season finales that I watch. Probably wasn't a good idea to compare those to a sitcom like BB, a legendary show.

[RoseCity07]

I really hope Jesse didn't give up Walt if he really did go to the DEA. Jesse doesn't think very far ahead. I'd be surprised if he actually came up with a clever way to cover himself and Walt.

[RoseCity07]

Holy sh*t....:applause: :applause:

That was awesome and sick. Gus's face...:eek: .

[SuperPippen]

Just.....................................damn.

Fantastic end to a fantastic season.

Walt's a ****ing criminal mastermind.

And, next season, I think he's got to go.

[NastaMaverick]

hate to see Gus die, but holy shit that was an amazing finale...

[Positive]

that was awesome.

[Black Joker]

holy shit.

[InspiredLebowski]

I won.

Somewhat afraid of the completely open ending though, given the troubles AMC's having because of Mad Men's financial demands. Really don't want a long lay off before the last season.

[catch24]

Lame that I have to wait two more hours.

[KevinNYC]

Holy sh*t....:applause: :applause:

That was awesome and sick. Gus's face...:eek: .


Great finale. The face was like Dark Knight.

Part of me liked how they let him go out. Part of me thought the unreality of it took me out of the story.

Also at the end of show, for a second, I wasn't sure whose backyard it was. I guessed correctly, but rewound to see if they showed it earlier in the episode and they did......also they did a very sneaky thing in the first shot of the backyard in that episode. See if you can see what it is.

[Velocirap31]

Just wanted to say OH MY GOD. Gus was bad ass to the end to, that was insane.

[Velocirap31]

Who's back yard and pool area was that at the end? The source of the poisonous plant.

[andgar923]

Who's back yard and pool area was that at the end? The source of the poisonous plant.

Walter's.

[andgar923]

Btw.... the name of the episode:

'Face off'

[andgar923]

Btw.... was I the only one that noticed Walt's 'green' shirt and what appeared to be a purple jacket?


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Kinda hard to tell from that pic, but I have it on pause on my tv. In the scene where Sal and Walt are talking, the jacket looks purple.

[Velocirap31]

Walter's.

Wait, so what are you guys concluding about this? Are we assuming Walt did do something to the boy?

[andgar923]

Wait, so what are you guys concluding about this? Are we assuming Walt did do something to the boy?

Yup.

I'm sure he knew that the boy wouldn't die. He knew that the plant was poisonous but just enough to get the boy sick but not kill him.

[andgar923]

remember in the last episode where gus was spinning the gun

one time he spins it and the gun lands pointing at the plant, and he just stares at it :pimp:

hahaha.... good shit!

[Velocirap31]

Yup.

I'm sure he knew that the boy wouldn't die. He knew that the plant was poisonous but just enough to get the boy sick but not kill him.

That would explain how Gus thought something was up after Jesse mentioned the boy was poisoned. The writers of this show connect all the pieces of the puzzle in the last episode so well. This show is just so good.

[andgar923]

Let us move on and talk about the future.


Where does the show go from here?

Is Walt gonna continue cooking? and with no serious competition or threat from the Mexican cartel or the DEA, is he gonna aim high?

Now that Gus is dead and Walt's brother in law has been vindicated (and promoted soon enough), will he continue to go after Walt's alter ego? I guess this depends on how big Walt becomes.

And then there's the 'X' factor...... Mike.

He's still alive, and I'm sure he's coming back. Did he really have an allegiance to Gus, or was it just his employer and is willing to work for Walt?

Where would Walt 'cook' and would he upgrade his meth and make it superior than the one before? with no big threat left and a possible updated meth, he could own the entire market..... perhaps branch out to a different state?

Somebody mentioned Skyler as being a problem, but I think she'll aid him in getting to the top in some fashion. I think that she understands Walt's position and lack of threat, so she'll aid him.

And what about his health? will it continue to get better or will it deteriorate and become another sub plot?

[andgar923]

Hmmm... two interesting and obvious questions being asked in the IMDB board (which sucks btw):

How did Tyrus miss the bomb?

And

Where Jesse and Walt being watched at the rooftop of the hospital? if they were at all? I understand that they use camera angles to provide a different view, but it seemed as tho it was a POV not just a usage of a camera angle.

Could it be the FBI?

or..... perhaps Mike?

[SuperPippen]

Yup.

I'm sure he knew that the boy wouldn't die. He knew that the plant was poisonous but just enough to get the boy sick but not kill him.

Exactly.

That was one of the big reveals of this episode. In order to accomplish his objective, Walter poisoned a child, and completely manipulated Jesse.

One of the biggest points of this season was to show Walt's descent into a true, despicable, criminal monster, one capable of putting an innocent child in harm's way (as well as a kind old neighborly lady) to accomplish his goals. He's past the point of no return. He's truly Broken Bad.


There are a couple of places the story can go from here.

- Will Walt and Jesse cook again? Do they want to, or need to? I definitely don't think Walt has either the desire or the capacity to leave the drug game at this point. Maybe Walt somehow takes control of Gus's drug empire. Maybe Jesse joins him, or maybe he doesn't want any part of it. Their goodbye at the end of "Face Off" seemed to be a sort of parting of the ways, at least for the time being.

- Maybe next season will deal with Gus's still unexplained past in Chile. Maybe some people there will want retribution after hearing of Gus's death, and will try to take out Walter, similar to the Cousins in season 3.

- I think it's safe to assume that Hank and the DEA are still going to be attempting to put the pieces together regarding Gus's death and his role as a huge meth distributor. Perhaps Gus or someone else associated with him inadvertently left behind a trail of breadcrumbs that lead Hank onto the trail of Walt? Walt vs. Hank showdown, anyone?

- Jesse will probably become aware of the Walter's trickery and his role in Brock's poisoning (and possibly also Jane's death). This, obviously, will infuriate Jesse and possibly lead to to a Jesse vs. Walt showdown. Something along these lines is bound to happen, and it's sure to be mindblowing.

- We don't know how Mike is doing, but I'd be extremely surprised if he wasn't brought back for next season. We can guess that he won't take kindly to the death of his boss, and maybe he's going to come after Walt and Jesse? Or maybe he'll join them? I'm excited for his return, either way.

- Maybe the rest of Walt's family discovers his true dark side (and not that crap about the gambling) and Skylar gets fed up and decides she no longer wants any part in it? Or maybe she turns on Walt, and becomes a factor in his inevitable downfall?

- Saul and Huell.......... I don't know about them, but I sure hope they're back again next season, and with more screen time.


Any combination of the above could feasibly happen in the show. Maybe they all will. Could you imagine Walt vs. Gus's Chilean connections, Hank, the DEA, Mike, Skylar, and Jesse?!?!?

Whatever direction this show goes in for it's final season, I think it's safe to assume that it will be some ****ing outstanding television.

[andgar923]

Oh shit...... they hinted at Gus' death in season 2.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsu29lRZs21qzntm9.jpg

[KevinNYC]

Who's back yard and pool area was that at the end? The source of the poisonous plant.

I didn't recognize it either at first, because I was on the computer while watching and consequently not watching closely. I had the episode on my DVR, so I went back and fast forwarded.

In the first shot, they took of his backyard, they took it from an odd angle, but now knowing the ending, you can clearly see the lily of the valley plant in his backyard.

Also when he convinced Jesse he said who do we know who has shown the willingess to let children die. So that's the difference between Walt and Gus. Walt will make a child sick, but not kill them.

As for next season, Walt is going to stay bad, at least for a while. The producer has said the arc of the show is taking "Mr. Chips and turning him into Scarface."

[Tarik One]

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy298/TarikOne/noeye.jpg

[SuperPippen]

http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy298/TarikOne/noeye.jpg

We've all seen this picture, bro.

In fact, it was leaked almost a week ago.

[KevinNYC]

He won't be able to upgrade his meth. Gus's setup was pretty much ideal conditions.
Once you get to 99%, it takes heroic efforts to get anything more pure. You would have to have the type of air filtration system they use when making silicon wafers into computer chips.

[andgar923]

He won't be able to upgrade his meth. Gus's setup was pretty much ideal conditions.
Once you get to 99%, it takes heroic efforts to get anything more pure. You would have to have the type of air filtration system they use when making silicon wafers into computer chips.

Hmmmmm....or perhaps a new type of drug?

It seems as tho Walt is smart enough and possibly curious enough to make a new type of drug.

[Saintsfan1992]

Hmmmmm....or perhaps a new type of drug?

It seems as tho Walt is smart enough and possibly curious enough to make a new type of drug.
:facepalm:

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG shot.

[catch24]

Guess it really did end with a bang :pimp:

Sucks that we have to wait until next summer to see where Jesse and Walt go from here.

[andgar923]

:facepalm:

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG shot.

why?

he's always aimed for perfection, and he takes great pride in his work. There's been a few scenes where he clearly shows his ego and pride and even takes offense at the thought of somebody else being considered a genius. I think that his time cooking meth 'may' drive his ego to make something superior. Not saying that it will happen, just that there's a chance that it could.

[andgar923]

Guess it really did end with a bang :pimp:

Sucks that we have to wait until next summer to see where Jesse and Walt go from here.

I just finished reading an interview with Hector (Gus) and he hinted at a possible Jesse vs WAlt feud and perhaps Jesse teaming up with Mike.

He also believes that Gus will come back in flashback episodes.

[KevinNYC]

Hmmmmm....or perhaps a new type of drug?

It seems as tho Walt is smart enough and possibly curious enough to make a new type of drug.

I think Walt is going to become Gus. There will be some plot twist that keeps him in the game and since he is in the game, he'll want to be at the very top of it.

Couple of points of reality.
The show made a big deal out of 95% vs 99% meth, when that never would have made a big deal to anyone.

Also the blue meth they make is just something the producers came up with to distinguish Walt's Product vs other meth makers.

I predict we get a flashback episode with Gus and possibly one with Walt.

[KevinNYC]

The Real Breaking Bad (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/16/the-real-breaking-bad-confessions-of-a-former-meth-king.html)


Then there was a time I was held up for five days in the desert, living in a trailer and cooking meth. Sack and I were high the entire time; we didn’t wear protective gear, and the drug had seeped into every pore in our bodies. Day by day, we started losing our minds. I became convinced that the feds were watching us. We saw people, cars, and airplanes that didn’t exist. At some point, we became unable to speak to one another—that’s how deep the paranoia ran. Every bush had someone lurking behind it.

[andgar923]

The Real Breaking Bad (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/16/the-real-breaking-bad-confessions-of-a-former-meth-king.html)

Great find.:applause:

[KevinNYC]

Great find.:applause:

I was just reading this on another forum and it kind of blew my mind. Somebody noticed this LAST WEEK.

When Walt thinks that killers are coming for him, he is shown in his backyard sitting at the table with a gun. He spins on the table and the barrel points to him. They show him do this two more times. The second time the barrel points right to him. The third time, the barrel points to a white plant.

And this poster said, that white plant is a poisonous plant, either lily of the valley or something else. You see Walt notice the plant and that's when he realizes it doesn't have to be him.

So somebody had figured out that not only did Walt do the poisoning, but he knew it probably wasn't ricin.

[andgar923]

I was just reading this on another forum and it kind of blew my mind. Somebody noticed this LAST WEEK.

When Walt thinks that killers are coming for him, he is shown in his backyard sitting at the table with a gun. He spins on the table and the barrel points to him. They show him do this two more times. The second time the barrel points right to him. The third time, the barrel points to a white plant.

And this poster said, that white plant is a poisonous plant, either lily of the valley or something else. You see Walt notice the plant and that's when he realizes it doesn't have to be him.

So somebody had figured out that not only did Walt do the poisoning, but he knew it probably wasn't ricin.

If Im not mistaken, I think they talked about that plant before in a different episode. I think Walt was going on about the plant's properties and rareness. And at the moment I knew I had to pay attention since it seemed as tho it may be significant. But then I thought maybe he was just talking about the plant as a metaphor, so it became an after thought.

[Bless Mathews]

Gus ain't dead.

He's gonna be some terminator super gangster.

[KevinNYC]

If Im not mistaken, I think they talked about that plant before in a different episode. I think Walt was going on about the plant's properties and rareness. And at the moment I knew I had to pay attention since it seemed as tho it may be significant. But then I thought maybe he was just talking about the plant as a metaphor, so it became an after thought.
Here's the clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rzjS4hzR8E&feature=related)

[andgar923]

Here's the clip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rzjS4hzR8E&feature=related)

And like others in those posts indicated "when?" could he have done it?

I do think that the writers will address this, since they posed the question themselves.

And just to go slightly off track here, let me draw a parallel between this show and Lost.

Some people are starting to question some of the show's actions (such as this for example), in the same manner that they questioned everything that happened in Lost. People started to become pessimistic about things that occurred, and how plausible they were. How there things just happend out of convenience and used as a cheap plot ploy.

And the difference between this show and Lost is:

Lost was always centered on 'mystery' and the unknown. It was a sci-fi show not a show based in reality.

This show however, is based in reality. So some of the questions do need to be addressed.... and I'm sure they will.

[RoseCity07]

I feel most of the things that happened tied up loose ends. I just want to know where Gus went after he didn't get his car. He left, Walt got the bomb back. Did Gus go back inside the hospital? They never did a scene that showed why he didn't get in his car.

[El Kabong]

My reaction when the bomb went off and Gus walked out of the room
"**** OFF!"
then they pan around and you see half his face missing
"HOLY SHIT!"

Here's some good stuff with Vince Gilligan going through each episode of Season 4

http://www.avclub.com/articles/vince-gilligan-walks-us-through-season-four-of-bre,63013/

[johndeeregreen]

And like others in those posts indicated "when?" could he have done it?
This. If Jesse's original hunch was true - that Saul's crony took the smoke off of him somehow when he was searching him - then obviously Saul signed on to Walt's plan to poison the kid as well.

[El Kabong]

I did think someone was gonna bust up Walt and Jesse on the rooftop at the end. You could hear skipping like what happens when you drive the corners of parking lots too fast. I thought someone was burning rubber up to the top to catch them.

[KevinNYC]

This. If Jesse's original hunch was true - that Saul's crony took the smoke off of him somehow when he was searching him - then obviously Saul signed on to Walt's plan to poison the kid as well.

I think he would have swapped Jesse's pack of cigarettes for a new pack of cigarettes.

That's why it was so important for them to get Jesse to Saul's office. Also we know that Saul knows the kid and visits the house because he drops off money from Jesse to the mother.

So that would mean that Walt convinced Saul he would be in danger if Gus lived.

[SayTownRy]

re: gus's man not finding the bomb.

i think maybe walter hadn't fastened the bomb to the wheelchair yet thinking gus would send someone to do a sweep first to make sure things were clear for gus to proceed.

after he did the check, walter probably climbed back in the window and installed the bomb.

also i bet we get one of those before the opening credits flashback scenes laying out how walt poisoned brock and what happened with the cigarettes. this show doesn't hesitate to let us in on intricate details like that.

and gus must live on in flashbacks! such a great character

[niko]

Hmmm... two interesting and obvious questions being asked in the IMDB board (which sucks btw):

How did Tyrus miss the bomb?

And

Where Jesse and Walt being watched at the rooftop of the hospital? if they were at all? I understand that they use camera angles to provide a different view, but it seemed as tho it was a POV not just a usage of a camera angle.

Could it be the FBI?

or..... perhaps Mike?
Tryus wasn't looking for a bomb. He was sweeping for bugs. What possible reason would he have for thinking there was a bomb when the guy just returned from the DEA? Remember, the guy is in a wheelchair, can't move, and all his friends are dead. Gus is not aware Walter knows him. It was an oversight.

[niko]

I feel most of the things that happened tied up loose ends. I just want to know where Gus went after he didn't get his car. He left, Walt got the bomb back. Did Gus go back inside the hospital? They never did a scene that showed why he didn't get in his car.
He went and found another way home. He just didn't trust the car.

[Tarik One]

I always thought Tyrus looked like Chris Bosh

[KevinNYC]

Tryus wasn't looking for a bomb. He was sweeping for bugs. What possible reason would he have for thinking there was a bomb when the guy just returned from the DEA? Remember, the guy is in a wheelchair, can't move, and all his friends are dead. Gus is not aware Walter knows him. It was an oversight.

The bomb wasn't in the room yet.
When the room is being swept for bugs you see Walt outside the window of the room. He was holding the bomb.

["Jesus"]

Mind. Blown.

[1987_Lakers]

Did anyone else find the scene when the old lady was saying "Hi" "Hello" to Walt disturbing as ****?

[JaskoX1]

Good finale to Breaking Bad, played out exactly as I expected.

I'm very interested to see what happens to the meth production.

Both cartels have been destroyed, but the demand remains. Walt and Jesse no longer have the means to produce the blue stuff on a large scale.

Do they go back to producing small batches and sell it for a premium price? Or do they just abandon it altogether?

I'm hoping for the latter. The seeds for Walt's downfall have already been sown. There's really no need to devote a bunch of time to continued meth production.

[kingmob]

Did anybody find The old Gangster's reaction hilarious when the Nurse didn't get "DEA"? I waas rolling....Also, the face he made before blowing up Gus was priceless - he went out like a true G.

[Bless Mathews]

I don't remember if i saw his brain blown out though. Noticed half of his face, but was his brain blown out????? He could be alive if just his face was blown put .

[InspiredLebowski]

I don't remember if i saw his brain blown out though. Noticed half of his face, but was his brain blown out????? He could be alive if just his face was blown put .Dude. Gus is dead. Heisenberg won, and Walt's dead.

[Bless Mathews]

Dude. Gus is dead. Heisenberg won, and Walt's dead.



Was his brain blown out Bro? Or just his face?

[Bless Mathews]

I can see him not dead, getting shipped off to one of his medical places, having influence on the 3 confirmed dead report, and him coming back half way through next season for revenge.

[Kobe Jnr]

oh me oh my. Walt's a genius.

I hope we don't have to wait one year again, that would suck.

The music when Gus was about to walk to the care centre was great. Loved it..

I was reading the imdb forums, and read about Gus's laptop, since he has all the camera's set up on it, I'm pretty sure the DEA would find that, and see Walt and Jesse there..

I can imagine Hank's reaction seeing Walk..

This show when finished, will go down as one of the best of all time.

[Kobe Jnr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJWpFv-I96E

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[El Kabong]

I can see him not dead, getting shipped off to one of his medical places, having influence on the 3 confirmed dead report, and him coming back half way through next season for revenge.
Vince Giligan himself said Gus is dead. Might turn up next season in flashbacks, but he's toast.

[KevinNYC]

I was reading the imdb forums, and read about Gus's laptop, since he has all the camera's set up on it, I'm pretty sure the DEA would find that, and see Walt and Jesse there.. .

That would only work if the video was saved to the laptop. If the video is just streaming at some point that info would be lost.

[KevinNYC]

I don't remember if i saw his brain blown out though. Noticed half of his face, but was his brain blown out????? He could be alive if just his face was blown put .

Gus is dead.

When a bomb goes off your whole body is hit by the concussive force of the explosion. The damage the flying debris does to your body is a secondary effect. The blast wave itself will collapse your lungs and cause all sorts of internal bleeding.

In reality a bomb strong enough to cause the types of skull injuries it caused would have hurled him against the wall. He would not have walked out.

They just wanted Gus to give a badass sendoff. He's dead, but I bet there is another flashback.

[KevinNYC]

Check out this quote from a guy (http://dvice.com/archives/2010/03/hurt-locker-sui.php)who makes those HURT LOCKER type bomb suits


The two main threats in an explosion are: the overpressure pulse, or shockwave; and the fragmentation, commonly known as shrapnel.

The overpressure wave is actually the more dangerous of the two. A microsecond after a bomb goes off, the explosion compresses the surrounding air and blows it outward in a lightning-fast shockwave that ripples through clothing and literally flattens internal organs. Guy Pearce's character experiences it firsthand at the end of The Hurt Locker's tense opening sequence:

"You see that the technician gets knocked down well before the debris hits him," says Borkar. "But how is he killed? That's power of the overpressure wave: because he was relatively close to the device when it exploded, the pulse has probably punctured or collapsed his lungs."

[arkain]

Btw, the issue with the missing cig with the ricin has been answered. Walt took it when he asked Jesse for a smoke. Smoked half, knowing it had ricin and dumped the rest.

[SuperPippen]

:oldlol:

Any fan of Breaking Bad needs to watch the following videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKjCEjsnH2o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slFgji9osFU

[1987_Lakers]

:oldlol:

Any fan of Breaking Bad needs to watch the following videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKjCEjsnH2o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slFgji9osFU

nice find.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPR9ORpwBEU

[SuperPippen]

:lol

I just realized that this is a real website.

http://www.savewalterwhite.com/

[johndeeregreen]

They just wanted Gus to give a badass sendoff.
And what a sendoff it was. I literally said "are you f*cking kidding me? what a joke" when they showed the first angle of him walking out. And then, well...suffice it to say he's deader 'n hell.

[ZeN]

Does anyone remember how Gus would always stay alive because of 'who he is'?

The Cartel Boss didn't kill him because 'he knew who he really was' hinting that he was someone special. This was pre-badass Gus, who was young and inexperienced. Also, that guy with the scope rifle didn't shoot him I believe for the same sort of reason. Altho, it coukd have simply been due to american boss status.

I'm thinking there's a secret past to Gus and someone we dont know about yet, it gonna be pissed. They may go after Walt..

[Loneshot]

Does anyone remember how Gus would always stay alive because of 'who he is'?

The Cartel Boss didn't kill him because 'he knew who he really was' hinting that he was someone special. This was pre-badass Gus, who was young and inexperienced. Also, that guy with the scope rifle didn't shoot him I believe for the same sort of reason. Altho, it coukd have simply been due to american boss status.

I'm thinking there's a secret past to Gus and someone we dont know about yet, it gonna be pissed. They may go after Walt..

The Cartel didn't kill him the second time because he hadn't given them the inside on how his meth is made, so they still needed him.

[alenleomessi]

epic episode

http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/345865_700b.jpg

[Kobe Jnr]

What a show.

Gonna buy the seasons on blu ray. Only like 70 bucks from amazon.

One season over here on DVD cost 50..

[Bless Mathews]

Gus gonna be rappin.....


"My mama called last night,
Said Gus are you all right "

[El Kabong]

:lol

I just realized that this is a real website.

http://www.savewalterwhite.com/
http://www.bettercallsaul.com/

[ZeN]

there definitely is a secret mystery behind gus. but i dont think they will ever go to it. they might though. Gilligan said in an interview that they kept Gus' background a mystery on purpose... because whatever we can think up is probably better than what he would.


That makes a lot of sense right there.. The mystery is more intriguing than whatever could be revealed..

[El Kabong]

The actor who plays Gus mentioned the "I know who you are" line from the Cartel over why they can't kill him was in reference to Gus being a higher up in the Pinochet 1973 Chilean coup d'

[niko]

It felt like they concluded things but when you think about it, so much is open..
1) The police have to be suspcious as hell as to what really happened.
2) Who is Gus really? And are those people looking for him?
3) They were shipping TONS of drugs. Were any of those paid in advance? If so, people are going to be looking for the drugs.
4) Walt is a sociopath. I'm not sure Walt can stop.

[chains5000]

Just watched the finale, awesome.
Are there tapes of the lab in Gus' computer?

[chains5000]

Btw, the issue with the missing cig with the ricin has been answered. Walt took it when he asked Jesse for a smoke. Smoked half, knowing it had ricin and dumped the rest.
:applause:

[SuperPippen]

Just watched the finale, awesome.
Are there tapes of the lab in Gus' computer?

That remains to be seen, although I personally doubt that a man as precise and meticulous as Gus would leave evidence of a huge drug distribution operation on his computer.