Things I learned reading "The Jordan Rules" by Sam Smith

[1987_Lakers]

- MJ, Horace Grant, & Pippen all got their baby sons naked to see which one had the biggest p.enis, Pippen's son had the biggest.

- I knew Jerry Krause liked Kukoc, but this book revealed he had a crazy obsession with Kukoc that went too far. Funny stuff.

- Bulls were going after Danny Ainge during the 1990 offseason because he was one of the few guards in the league who would tell Jordan to Fvck off when he demanded the ball. Ainge would have been the Robert Horry of his era if Chicago signed him.

- I like Craig Hodges' political views.

- The '91 Bulls were a team full of egocentric babies, EVERYONE on the bench (excluding Hodges) thought they should be starting or getting more playing time.

- Gained alot of respect for Bill Cartwright, he was intelligent, hard worker, & everyone on the team went to him when they had problems.

Good book overall, I recommend it to those who haven't read it.

[L.Kizzle]

- MJ, Horace Grant, & Pippen all got their baby sons naked to see which one had the biggest p.enis, Pippen's son had the biggest.

Uh Child protective services. :eek:

[1987_Lakers]

Uh Child protective services. :eek:

My reaction when I was reading that in the book:
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[StarJordan]

I like hangtime with bob greene more...

[Jameerthefear]

I think I might be picking up this book. Its on Amazon for pretty cheap
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[sick_brah07]

great book, changed my opinion on jordan quite a bit, "the last shot: city streets" is a great read to... changews

[Horatio33]

- MJ, Horace Grant, & Pippen all got their baby sons naked to see which one had the biggest p.enis, Pippen's son had the biggest.


They didn't get their kids naked in front of each other, they just discussed it. Although thats not much better............

[KevinNYC]

- Bulls were going after Danny Ainge during the 1990 offseason because he was one of the few guards in the league who would tell Jordan to Fvck off when he demanded the ball. Ainge would have been the Robert Horry of his era if Chicago signed him.

- I like Craig Hodges' political views.

- Gained alot of respect for Bill Cartwright, he was intelligent, hard worker, & everyone on the team went to him when they had problems.



Did they explain why they wanted that quality in a guard? When would Ainge have had the opportunity to show them that? All star game?

So what's up with Hodges? I'm guessing he went for Perot.

I think Bill Cartwright is underrated. Solid big man for many years in the league.

[Pointguard]

- I like Craig Hodges' political views.

Wasn't he kicked out of the league for them? Or Jordan pretty much got him out of the league because he put Jordan's lack of polical stance on David Duke out there. I recall him being allowed to participate in the 3 point contest that year but for whatever reasons couldn't play during the year. It was very weird. What did Jordan say about his political views?

[get these NETS]

Hodges had won the 3 point contest the year before, so he HAd to be invited back.......but he wasn't on any roster

when you see how long accurate sharpshooters can stay in the league well past their physical primes, it's clear that hodges was being blackballed.

When the champion bulls visited the white house..Hodges was rumored to either have spoken up to Bush about some issues or handed him sheet of paper with those issues outlined.

[L.Kizzle]

They didn't get their kids naked in front of each other, they just discussed it. Although thats not much better............
That's impossible, if they weren't all naked at the same time, how did they come to tow conclusion Pippen's was bigger?

Sick men.

[Vragrant]

Horace Grant reportedly played a big part in the book, as far as players go he was the main one who Sam Smith dealt with.

That being said, I recommend it its a good read whether your a Jordan fan or a Jordan hater.

I was reading one of Smiths' later books and he said in the prologue that one day Jordan walked by him (after Jordan Rules was published) looked him in the eye and said, "Your'e a fu*king @sshole"

[Indian guy]

Love the book. It's hardly a tear-down of MJ as it's viewed as, because Sam gives us the good and bad of every player on the team. Even the front office. In fact, MJ comes off looking better than most. More importantly, there's nothing really mean-spirited about Smith's work here. He's a beat reporter who basically tells us what happened, and it's a hell of an entertaining read. Very funny too.

The biggest misconception about the book is that it's about Jordan, when it's really about the 90-91 Chicago Bulls. The book's title, obviously, was purely for monetary purposes, because it's as much about MJ as it's about Pippen, Phil, Horace or even Krause. It's basically an inside look at the Bulls franchise for their first championship season.

On an interesting side note, the only person in the book who's NEVER shown in a bad light is Phil Jackson. He's the clear-cut hero of Sam's story for bringing a dysfunctional team together for the '91 championship. Word also came out later that aside from Horace Grant and Johnny Bach(defensive coach), Phil was the guy who gave Sam the most behind-the-scenes info/dirt.

[one2]

Jordan Rules is a good read whether you are an MJ hater or MJ fan.

another book worth looking into is Playing for Keeps by David Halberstam. It is similar to Jordan Rules and even mentions Jordan Rules itself.

It seems to paint the players in a somewhat more positive view. Even Jordan's egging on his teammates to make moo sounds whenever Jerry Krause would walk in the locker room.

Also jerry Krause is obsessed at the injustice in the way he was portrayed (slovenly etc...) in jordan rules.

[Pointguard]

Hodges had won the 3 point contest the year before, so he HAd to be invited back.......but he wasn't on any roster

when you see how long accurate sharpshooters can stay in the league well past their physical primes, it's clear that hodges was being blackballed.

When the champion bulls visited the white house..Hodges was rumored to either have spoken up to Bush about some issues or handed him sheet of paper with those issues outlined.

Thanks, I could never connect the dots on that one.

[Crown&Coke]

I learned how meticulous MJ was about him image in the press. And how vindictive he was.

If he played in todays era, he would get murdered, at least for a little while. I also learned how dumb Scottie was for signing that contract. I see how a broke kid from the south living 12 kids in a one bedroom place would want some stability, but dude, your Agent was telling you to chill, hell, even the owner was telling you to chill, and you signed on the dotted line.

I also found Phil to be a total nutcase, and a borderline asshole.

But both MJ and Phil spoke about how exaggerated the book was, but those two dudes were heavy scrutinized so how fair is that assessment, idk

Good book, I liked it, but I won't read it again unlike some other bball books

[get these NETS]

it's on google books


free legal preview

[Boston C's]

I learned how meticulous MJ was about him image in the press. And how vindictive he was.

If he played in todays era, he would get murdered, at least for a little while. I also learned how dumb Scottie was for signing that contract. I see how a broke kid from the south living 12 kids in a one bedroom place would want some stability, but dude, your Agent was telling you to chill, hell, even the owner was telling you to chill, and you signed on the dotted line.

I also found Phil to be a total nutcase, and a borderline asshole.

But both MJ and Phil spoke about how exaggerated the book was, but those two dudes were heavy scrutinized so how fair is that assessment, idk

Good book, I liked it, but I won't read it again unlike some other bball books

what contract did scottie sign that your talkin about?

[Clippersfan86]

what contract did scottie sign that your talkin about?

If I recall based on the Bulls dynasty thread I made... Multiple people told Pippen to hold off on signing a new contract until the new CBA or something was discussed. Basically told him if he held off a season he could make a ton more.... and as a result he was basically underpaid and unhappy because he jumped the gun and wanted the money NOW. He demanded contract re-negotiations.

[guy]

If I recall based on the Bulls dynasty thread I made... Multiple people told Pippen to hold off on signing a new contract until the new CBA or something was discussed. Basically told him if he held off a season he could make a ton more.... and as a result he was basically underpaid and unhappy because he jumped the gun and wanted the money NOW. He demanded contract re-negotiations.

I'm not sure if they were allowed to, but they didn't definitely did not let that happen. So with that being the case, Pippen had every right to be mad.

[Boston C's]

If I recall based on the Bulls dynasty thread I made... Multiple people told Pippen to hold off on signing a new contract until the new CBA or something was discussed. Basically told him if he held off a season he could make a ton more.... and as a result he was basically underpaid and unhappy because he jumped the gun and wanted the money NOW. He demanded contract re-negotiations.

Damn thats crazy... sux that had to happen to him

[Crown&Coke]

what contract did scottie sign that your talkin about?

It was something like 7 years for about 20 million or a figure close to that. Good money back in the NBA those days, especially if you wanted some guaranteed money. But the very next year a new CBA allowed for massive increases in total salary, guys were getting 50 million dollar deals. Scottie missed the boat by a hair. But Chicago was always telling their players, "hold on, we will take care of you." Next thing you know, the players still ended up getting shafted. They did it to Paxson, Horace, Rodman, a bunch of players.

[DuMa]

When the Chicago Bulls visited the White House after winning the 1992 NBA Championship, Hodges dressed in a dashiki and delivered a hand-written letter addressed to then President George H. W. Bush, expressing his discontent at the administration's treatment of the poor and minorities.[14]

Hodges also criticized his Bulls teammate Michael Jordan for not using his fame to draw attention to social and political issues, and said Jordan was "bailing out" for not being politically outspoken.[15]

In 1996, Hodges filed a $40 million lawsuit against the NBA and its then 29 teams, claiming they blackballed him for his association with Louis Farrakhan and criticism of "African-American professional athletes who failed to use their considerable wealth and influence to assist the poor and disenfranchised."[12] After he was waived by the Bulls in 1992, he did not receive an offer or a tryout from a single NBA team, even though he was only 32 years old and still able to contribute to contenders. The lawsuit claimed that Bulls assistant coach Jim Cleamons told him that the team was troubled by his criticism of players' lack of involvement in inner-city communities.[14] The suit also claimed Billy McKinney, the director of player personnel for the Seattle SuperSonics initially showed interest in Hodges in 1992, and then shortly after backed away, telling Hodges he could do nothing because "brothers have families, if you know what I mean." While a Bulls official said Hodges was waived as he was getting old and could not play defense, head coach Phil Jackson said, "I also found it strange that not a single team called to inquire about him. Usually, I get at least one call about a player we've decided not to sign. And yes, he couldn't play much defense, but a lot of guys in the league can't, but not many can shoot from his range, either."

[one2]

^^

Thanks for that. It's really a mystery why all of a sudden he disappeared. Now we all know why.

[1987_Lakers]

When the Chicago Bulls visited the White House after winning the 1992 NBA Championship, Hodges dressed in a dashiki and delivered a hand-written letter addressed to then President George H. W. Bush, expressing his discontent at the administration's treatment of the poor and minorities.[14]

Hodges also criticized his Bulls teammate Michael Jordan for not using his fame to draw attention to social and political issues, and said Jordan was "bailing out" for not being politically outspoken.[15]

In 1996, Hodges filed a $40 million lawsuit against the NBA and its then 29 teams, claiming they blackballed him for his association with Louis Farrakhan and criticism of "African-American professional athletes who failed to use their considerable wealth and influence to assist the poor and disenfranchised."[12] After he was waived by the Bulls in 1992, he did not receive an offer or a tryout from a single NBA team, even though he was only 32 years old and still able to contribute to contenders. The lawsuit claimed that Bulls assistant coach Jim Cleamons told him that the team was troubled by his criticism of players' lack of involvement in inner-city communities.[14] The suit also claimed Billy McKinney, the director of player personnel for the Seattle SuperSonics initially showed interest in Hodges in 1992, and then shortly after backed away, telling Hodges he could do nothing because "brothers have families, if you know what I mean." While a Bulls official said Hodges was waived as he was getting old and could not play defense, head coach Phil Jackson said, "I also found it strange that not a single team called to inquire about him. Usually, I get at least one call about a player we've decided not to sign. And yes, he couldn't play much defense, but a lot of guys in the league can't, but not many can shoot from his range, either."

Hodges:applause: