Chris Nolan / Zack Snyder "MAN OF STEEL"

[Samurai Swoosh]

We go from gay director Bryan Singer and his boring, lifeless, emo Superman

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2006/06/27/dd_superman685.jpg

TO THIS !!!

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/7503/supermancolorcorrect.png

Feel good, man

:pimp:

[Loneshot]

Why has every Superman since Christopher Reeve (excluding Tom Welling) looked mexican or south american?

[Samurai Swoosh]

Why has every Superman since Christopher Reeve (excluding Tom Welling) looked mexican or south american?
Have you seen Henry Cavill? He's as white boy as it gets. So is Brandon Routh.

:oldlol:

[Loneshot]

Both guys in those pictures look cuban or mexican

[fatboy11]

Both guys in those pictures look cuban or mexican

Something tells me you don't know what Mexicans look like.

[verylegit]

why can't we cut the bs and get tom welling to do it? 6'3 m'fer with blue eyes that will make anyone fall in love with him. he actually physically resembles comic book superman...and he played it good in smallville.

[Loneshot]

why can't we cut the bs and get tom welling to do it? 6'3 m'fer with blue eyes that will make anyone fall in love with him. he actually physically resembles comic book superman...and he played it good in smallville.

I was not a Superman fan before him. He should be the one and only person to play that role until he's too old. He's perfect. Those other guys posted look too foreign for me.

[Reef]

Why has every Superman since Christopher Reeve (excluding Tom Welling) looked mexican or south american?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twLwJ6nF1nE

[Samurai Swoosh]

why can't we cut the bs and get tom welling to do it? 6'3 m'fer with blue eyes that will make anyone fall in love with him. he actually physically resembles comic book superman...and he played it good in smallville.
Cavill will have blue eyes. And he's a WAY superior actor to Welling. Welling was just a model when he got casted on a terribly acted teen soap opera. Cavill resembles Superman, too. Specifically Jim Lee's take on Superman

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/34184/907515-jl04superman205_super.jpg

[rezznor]

Welling sucks ass

[verylegit]

Cavill will have blue eyes. And he's a WAY superior actor to Welling. Welling was just a model when he got casted on a terribly acted teen soap opera. Cavill resembles Superman, too. Specifically Jim Lee's take on Superman

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/3/34184/907515-jl04superman205_super.jpg
given that we are on a basketball forum, we need some stats breh'

Tom Motherf*cking Welling:
6'3(don't go sir charles on me and start posting pics to find actual height)
~200, haven't seen him recently but the guy is built, looks to be over 2 and some change, low bf%

[Samurai Swoosh]

Tom Motherf*cking Welling:
6'3(don't go sir charles on me and start posting pics to find actual height)
~200, haven't seen him recently but the guy is built, looks to be over 2 and some change, low bf%
And Welling got in great shape for Man of Steel. You can see it in the picture.

And it's not just about the physicality of the role.

Superman has to be acted well. Welling can't act his way out of a paper bag.

That's why he gets no work, bro. Stuck on a terrible teen soap opera for ten years.

Superman isn't just about being a big dude, in great shape. You have to be regal, noble, etc

[verylegit]

And Welling got in great shape for Man of Steel. You can see it in the picture.

And it's not just about the physicality of the role.

Superman has to be acted well. Welling can't act his way out of a paper bag.

That's why he gets no work, bro. Stuck on a terrible teen soap opera for ten years.

Superman isn't just about being a big dude, in great shape. You have to be regal, noble, etc yeah but image is such a big deal imo. the past supermans didn't fit the role very well and their acting was nothing to be impressed by ether. we need a good actor, director and sizable budget.
i'm very glad chris nolan is involved though. dark knight has been veyr good.

[El Kabong]

But what colour are they going to make his underwear? I MUST KNOW!!!

[Gundress]

I think superman as a character needs a redesign..the suit still doesn't sit well in 2011, tights and underwear on the outside.

In that picture, I'm not feeling that,....like I always said the new Superman always will be failed. They tried to hard to do reboot because of The Dark Knight so now they wanna try do little bit dark and shit wouldn't work for Superman or Spiderman.

Christopher Reeve was the best Superman, he's SUPERMAN...:bowdown:

[rezznor]

I think superman as a character needs a redesign..the suit still doesn't sit well in 2011, tights and underwear on the outside.

In that picture, I'm not feeling that,....like I always said the new Superman always will be failed. They tried to hard to do reboot because of The Dark Knight so now they wanna try do little bit dark and shit wouldn't work for Superman or Spiderman.

Christopher Reeve was the best Superman, he's SUPERMAN...:bowdown:
this is his newest costume

http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/new-superman-costume-jim-lee-2011-e1309126458580.jpg

[Gundress]

this is his newest costume

http://insidepulse.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/new-superman-costume-jim-lee-2011-e1309126458580.jpg


Well, I was talking about the movie...did you see the picture they leak, I don't feel it.

Honestly, I don't give a shit about Superman cause he's very corny to me than any superheros in comic-book. Superman is very boring character to me. :rolleyes:

I still said I do think they need to do a redesign for Superman. You seen the X-Men movies didn't follow the X-Men comics costume, etc and they did the right thing.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Well, I was talking about the movie...did you see the picture they leak, I don't feel it.
The new one doesn't have the "undies" ... that is literally the only thing that needed to be axed from the design. It's corny w/ them, it's legit w/o ... new suit looks nice to me.

[Loneshot]

Well, I was talking about the movie...did you see the picture they leak, I don't feel it.

Honestly, I don't give a shit about Superman cause he's very corny to me than any superheros in comic-book. Superman is very boring character to me. :rolleyes:

I still said I do think they need to do a redesign for Superman. You seen the X-Men movies didn't follow the X-Men comics costume, etc and they did the right thing.

That's one reason why Smallville worked as long as it did. He didn't wear a costume. Dude had jeans, blue (or red) shirt, and a blue (or red) jacket.

The new movie should go with something like these

http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/clark-from-smallville.jpg
http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/smallville-booster-clark-kent-phone-booth-4.jpg
http://tvmedia.ign.com/tv/image/article/873/873700/smallville-20080513021248539_640w.jpg

[Samurai Swoosh]

That's one reason why Smallville worked as long as it did. He didn't wear a costume. Dude had jeans, blue (or red) shirt, and a blue (or red) jacket.
Smallville is hot garbage, bro ... seriously.

:oldlol:

[Loneshot]

Smallville is hot garbage, bro ... seriously.

:oldlol:

Nah. Show was ace first four or five seasons

[Samurai Swoosh]

Nah. Show was ace first four or five seasons
I'll take your word for it.

[Loneshot]

I'll take your word for it.

But the last four or five seasons were pretty weak, no doubt at all that the last two seasons of it were garbage. I only kept watching to see where the hell it was going.

[bada bing]

hopefully this is not another origins of superman movie. i am tired of seeing how superman was born and sent to earth and grew up with these powers. we all know that. just move the fck on!

[plat1numX]

But the last four or five seasons were pretty weak, no doubt at all that the last two seasons of it were garbage. I only kept watching to see where the hell it was going.

Where did that show end up? i quit watching it after the writers strike

[MeLO MvP 15]

http://i.imgur.com/jlgm2.jpg
It looks like that mesh that warriors in medieval times would wear under their armor. Or kinda carbon-fiber-ish.

[Timmy D for MVP]

I never liked Superman, always thought he was one of the weakest characters of the top-tier comic book list. That said I loved the Reeves movies. They were great. But since then the best thing I've seen done with Superman in other media is the animated Crisis on Two Earths movie.

I'm not too confident in this breaking that streak. It's just hard to do.

[ukplayer4]

if snyder go's full on negative and gore, like he did with watchmen. i can just about condone this. nolan tho, continues to sink in relevance

[DuMa]

how many times can they reboot the same old ****ing comic book story? as long as people keep eating it up i guess :rolleyes:

[MeLO MvP 15]

how many times can they reboot the same old ****ing comic book story? as long as people keep eating it up i guess :rolleyes:
Technically there was never a reboot.

There was the original Superman with Reeves that had 3 sequels. Then there was that quasi- sequel (it follows up after Superman 2) with Routh many years late.

This is the first "reboot." And just like with the Spiderman and Batman reboots, they've changed the stories/villians. Superman faces Zod in this, in the original Superman faced Lex Luther (and then Zod in #2).

I'm very much looking forward to this, although they can't expect to make it dark because that does not work with Superman. It's like if you look up all that Tim Burton Superman stuff with Nic Cage. That movies was into production they had the story, the costumes, the cast, etc. Imagine if that got made. It's actually really cool to look at all that stuff that never became a movie, but it makes you think what that movie would've been like and if we would've ever thought of Superman the same way.

http://joyhog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/nic-cage-superman-burton.png
http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Tim-Burton-Superman-Lives-test-suit.jpg
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/21477/superman_21477.jpg

[ErhnamDjinn]

Technically there was never a reboot.

There was the original Superman with Reeves that had 3 sequels. Then there was that quasi- sequel (it follows up after Superman 2) with Routh many years late.

This is the first "reboot." And just like with the Spiderman and Batman reboots, they've changed the stories/villians. Superman faces Zod in this, in the original Superman faced Lex Luther (and then Zod in #2).

I'm very much looking forward to this, although they can't expect to make it dark because that does not work with Superman. It's like if you look up all that Tim Burton Superman stuff with Nic Cage. That movies was into production they had the story, the costumes, the cast, etc. Imagine if that got made. It's actually really cool to look at all that stuff that never became a movie, but it makes you think what that movie would've been like and if we would've ever thought of Superman the same way.

http://joyhog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/nic-cage-superman-burton.png
http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/Tim-Burton-Superman-Lives-test-suit.jpg
http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/21477/superman_21477.jpg
holy $hi nic cage in that supes outfit, the hairline, the hair, wtf :facepalm glad that didnt get made, the other costumes looks like mister freeze outfit. :no:

[raiderfan19]

You didn't like all star superman Timmy?

[Clippersfan86]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpvOT6HJCmg

FU**ING EPIC. Marvel simply cannot fu** with the deep, sorrow filled plots of the DC universe and nobody can fu** with Nolan when it comes to making Superhero movies. This trailer debuted yesterday or day before and was only shown in DKR showings.

[Rose]

I'm still not excited about this movie. Don't think it can work really well.

[EnoughSaid]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpvOT6HJCmg

FU**ING EPIC. Marvel simply cannot fu** with the deep, sorrow filled plots of the DC universe and nobody can fu** with Nolan when it comes to making Superhero movies. This trailer debuted yesterday or day before and was only shown in DKR showings.

To be honest, the only thing DC has on Marvel is Batman. Marvel has much better superheroes and is a better company.

[Clippersfan86]

To be honest, the only thing DC has on Marvel is Batman. Marvel has much better superheroes and is a better company.

Naw... the stories and plots of Superman are just as good as Batman IMO. Besides Superman and Batman are the two most popular superheroes of all time. I just don't see the same depth in origins and story when I look at Marvel... nor the same uniqueness.

[MeLO MvP 15]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpvOT6HJCmg

FU**ING EPIC. Marvel simply cannot fu** with the deep, sorrow filled plots of the DC universe and nobody can fu** with Nolan when it comes to making Superhero movies. This trailer debuted yesterday or day before and was only shown in DKR showings.
I'm pretty sure Marvel's characters are more "realistic" than DC's because of their major character flaws.

It'll be interesting to see if Nolan/Snyder can pull of the dark Superman considering he's the perfect person. Not hating on the movie at all, I'm looking forward to this more than any other movie coming out... but I'm a little worried.

[Clippersfan86]

I'm pretty sure Marvel's characters are more "realistic" than DC's because of their major character flaws.

It'll be interesting to see if Nolan/Snyder can pull of the dark Superman considering he's the perfect person. Not hating on the movie at all, I'm looking forward to this more than any other movie coming out... but I'm a little worried.

When Nolan is involved he's proven there is nothing to be worried about. May not be Batman good but it will be a great movie. I'm not even as big of a Superman fan as many others and I'm pumped as fu**, even more so now after this trailer. People don't realize Superman is the most popular superhero ever. Just because previous movies didn't do him justice doesn't mean he sucks. He has one of the most interesting and unique origins of any superhero/villain.

[Clippersfan86]

Melo... generally speaking I agree Marvel makes their characters more "realistic" in the sense that they have more real world problems and are more related to the average Joe... but that doesn't make it any better IMO. Plus the fact that this dude is crab fishing in the trailer and hitchhiking proves that Nolan is going to break him down the way he did Batman Begins. He's going to show us his more human, humble beginnings side.

[MeLO MvP 15]

Melo... generally speaking I agree Marvel makes their characters more "realistic" in the sense that they have more real world problems and are more related to the average Joe... but that doesn't make it any better IMO. Plus the fact that this dude is crab fishing in the trailer and hitchhiking proves that Nolan is going to break him down the way he did Batman Begins. He's going to show us his more human, humble beginnings side.
I hope so. I get the feeling it's gonna be more like Superman struggling to fit in with humans (along with the whole Zod thing) which if done right would be a great, fresh turn.

[Loneshot]

Considering the guy looks like the actor from Smallville, i'll be looking forward. I thought the Smallville actor had the best look for Superman.

[D-Wade316]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpvOT6HJCmg

FU**ING EPIC. Marvel simply cannot fu** with the deep, sorrow filled plots of the DC universe and nobody can fu** with Nolan when it comes to making Superhero movies. This trailer debuted yesterday or day before and was only shown in DKR showings.
Looks awesome.

[SpecialQue]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpvOT6HJCmg

FU**ING EPIC. Marvel simply cannot fu** with the deep, sorrow filled plots of the DC universe and nobody can fu** with Nolan when it comes to making Superhero movies. This trailer debuted yesterday or day before and was only shown in DKR showings.

The last great Superman film came out in 1980. Name one DC character not named Batman who's had anything even remotely as good as the Spider-Man, X-Men, and Avengers-universe films in the past twenty years.

That said, I'm kind of shocked at how many people have been rolling their eyes at this trailer and bltching about it. It has that great, down-home country feel that Superman deserves, considering his youth. Supes has deserved a legit reboot, not that bullshit fake-sequel to the Donner films that came out a few years ago.

Hopefully in this one he'll use his powers to actually punch someone, instead of using them to move around really heavy objects.

[Clippersfan86]

The last great Superman film came out in 1980. Name one DC character not named Batman who's had anything even remotely as good as the Spider-Man, X-Men, and Avengers-universe films in the past twenty years.

That said, I'm kind of shocked at how many people have been rolling their eyes at this trailer and bltching about it. It has that great, down-home country feel that Superman deserves, considering his youth. Supes has deserved a legit reboot, not that bullshit fake-sequel to the Donner films that came out a few years ago.

Hopefully in this one he'll use his powers to actually punch someone, instead of using them to move around really heavy objects.

Number of quality films has nothing to do with the actual stories or potential of DC vs Marvel. Just happened to work out where Marvel stepped up first into the making movies work and churns them out much faster. DC has made a handful of movies where as Marvel has made like 20+ in the last decade. Even more impressive that DC easily has the best of all the superhero movies.

I want Nolan to redo Green Lantern next... and do DC the justice it deserves.

[SpecialQue]

Naw... the stories and plots of Superman are just as good as Batman IMO. Besides Superman and Batman are the two most popular superheroes of all time. I just don't see the same depth in origins and story when I look at Marvel... nor the same uniqueness.

Honestly, Batman and Spider-Man are the two greatest superheros of all time, when you look at what writers have been able to do with these characters, combined with their jaw-droppingly awesome rouges galleries. No other heroes even come close to having villains as great as these two.

[SpecialQue]

Number of quality films has nothing to do with the actual stories or potential of DC vs Marvel. Just happened to work out where Marvel stepped up first into the making movies work and churns them out much faster. DC has made a handful of movies where as Marvel has made like 20+ in the last decade. Even more impressive that DC easily has the best of all the superhero movies.

I want Nolan to redo Green Lantern next... and do DC the justice it deserves.

JUST the Nolan Batman trilogy, and I'd say the first two Spider-Man films and the first Iron Man match up well against those.

[D-Wade316]

Number of quality films has nothing to do with the actual stories or potential of DC vs Marvel. Just happened to work out where Marvel stepped up first into the making movies work and churns them out much faster. DC has made a handful of movies where as Marvel has made like 20+ in the last decade. Even more impressive that DC easily has the best of all the superhero movies.

I want Nolan to redo Green Lantern next... and do DC the justice it deserves.
Yeah. They should reboot GL. Did not even last 30min, then I stopped watching the movie.

[Clippersfan86]

JUST the Nolan Batman trilogy, and I'd say the first two Spider-Man films and the first Iron Man match up well against those.

Which is my point. Marvel has 10 times the superhero movies yet it's DC that has the undisputed best set of movies. Quality over quantity when it comes to movies. Marvel pops one out every two years where as Nolan took his time and put 4 years of work between each Batman movie.

I Like Spiderman and Hulk the most after Batman in terms of my fav superheroes but in terms of straight popularity Superman is THE most popular and well known superhero of all time and Batman is right behind him. None of the Marvel superheroes are as iconic as Batman or Superman in my opinion. Everybody knows who Superman is... not everybody knows who Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk etc are.

[SpecialQue]

Which is my point. Marvel has 10 times the superhero movies yet it's DC that has the undisputed best set of movies. Quality over quantity when it comes to movies. Marvel pops one out every two years where as Nolan took his time and put 4 years of work between each Batman movie.

I Like Spiderman and Hulk the most after Batman in terms of my fav superheroes but in terms of straight popularity Superman is THE most popular and well known superhero of all time and Batman is right behind him. None of the Marvel superheroes are as iconic as Batman or Superman in my opinion. Everybody knows who Superman is... not everybody knows who Spider-Man, Wolverine, Hulk etc are.

DC does not have the best set of movies, come on now. The Nolan Batman films aren't so great that they immediately trump the movies I mentioned. You're basically just saying Nolan > the entire series of directors involved in the Marvel films, which is absurd. You don't even know if the new Superman movie's gonna be any good or not. Yeah, Nolan's involved, but Zack is fvcking HORRIBLE at directing actors, which was the biggest reason why the Watchmen wasn't as great as it could have been. Plus Sucker Punch was a huge mark against his skill as a director. As for Marvel pumping out films...they actually don't own the film rights to Spider-Man, the X-Men, Fantastic Four, or Ghost Rider, so those aren't part of the Avengers universe that they've set up. Those are made by other studios with a different vision of what these characters are.

And at this point, I'm fairly certain everyone knows who Spider-Man is. I think you might be forgetting just how huge those Raimi films were when they opened. There was even a bunch of bullshit in the press about how important Spider-Man was as a proud New Yorker post-9/11.

[Clippersfan86]

DC does not have the best set of movies, come on now. The Nolan Batman films aren't so great that they immediately trump the movies I mentioned. You're basically just saying Nolan > the entire series of directors involved in the Marvel films, which is absurd. You don't even know if the new Superman movie's gonna be any good or not. Yeah, Nolan's involved, but Zack is fvcking HORRIBLE at directing actors, which was the biggest reason why the Watchmen wasn't as great as it could have been. Plus Sucker Punch was a huge mark against his skill as a director. As for Marvel pumping out films...they actually don't own the film rights to Spider-Man, the X-Men, Fantastic Four, or Ghost Rider, so those aren't part of the Avengers universe that they've set up. Those are made by other studios with a different vision of what these characters are.

And at this point, I'm fairly certain everyone knows who Spider-Man is. I think you might be forgetting just how huge those Raimi films were when they opened. There was even a bunch of bullshit in the press about how important Spider-Man was as a proud New Yorker post-9/11.

Batman trilogy IS that much better in terms of quality of movies than anything else. Avengers isn't a full tier below but there is obviously some of a gap. Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man were very nice movies but again nowhere near as good as Dark Knight or Dark Knight Rises.

Spider-Man is extremely popular but I don't think you realize that Superman is hands down the most popular superhero ever by a huge margin and is more of a world wide icon. Probably in part due to how old the character is.

[SpecialQue]

Batman trilogy IS that much better in terms of quality of movies than anything else. Avengers isn't a full tier below but there is obviously some of a gap. Spider-Man 2 and Iron Man were very nice movies but again nowhere near as good as Dark Knight or Dark Knight Rises.

Spider-Man is extremely popular but I don't think you realize that Superman is hands down the most popular superhero ever by a huge margin and is more of a world wide icon. Probably in part due to how old the character is.

I love the Batman trilogy as well and hold it just below LOTR as the greatest trilogy I've seen, but I can't help but think you're waaaaaaay overrating it with regards to this genre.

[Clippersfan86]

I love the Batman trilogy as well and hold it just below LOTR as the greatest trilogy I've seen, but I can't help but think you're waaaaaaay overrating it with regards to this genre.

According to critics/fans combined and the Academy Awards and other outlets nothing comes close to Dark Knight in the superhero genre so not sure how I'm overrating it. The fact that at worst Rises was only a little worse shows the dominance over the superhero genre even more. The fact that Dark Knight should have won best picture says it all. No other movie like Spider-Man, Iron-Man or Avengers will even be in that discussion.

[Clippersfan86]

As I said que I'm not even a Superman fan. I'm just stating the fact... that he's the undisputed most popular and iconic superhero of all time.

[SpecialQue]

According to critics/fans combined and the Academy Awards and other outlets nothing comes close to Dark Knight in the superhero genre so not sure how I'm overrating it. The fact that at worst Rises was only a little worse shows the dominance over the superhero genre even more. The fact that Dark Knight should have won best picture says it all. No other movie like Spider-Man, Iron-Man or Avengers will even be in that discussion.

To get back to the point though, you're saying that DC > Marvel in terms of their characters, and using one character to make this argument. Please tell me what film in the Superman series were even close to being as good as any of the X-Men films. In fact, let's remove Batman and Spider-Man entirely from this argument, and tell me how DC has told better stories than Marvel in their films.

[Clippersfan86]

To get back to the point though, you're saying that DC > Marvel in terms of their characters, and using one character to make this argument. Please tell me what film in the Superman series were even close to being as good as any of the X-Men films. In fact, let's remove Batman and Spider-Man entirely from this argument, and tell me how DC has told better stories than Marvel in their films.

No I'm not saying DC>Marvel in general. Just that there is a gap between these Batman movies and any Marvel movie. The failures of the Superman movies has everything to do with the people making the films and not the plot which was my only point. Nolan has yet to make a movie that wasn't perceived as great so I don't see why Superman wouldn't be a great movie.

Of course in a H2H comparison it's difficult because for every 1 DC movie there are 5-10 Marvel ones. In general though I feel like DC has better origin stories and that's my personal opinion.

[AlexanderRight]

According to critics/fans combined and the Academy Awards and other outlets nothing comes close to Dark Knight in the superhero genre so not sure how I'm overrating it. The fact that at worst Rises was only a little worse shows the dominance over the superhero genre even more. The fact that Dark Knight should have won best picture says it all. No other movie like Spider-Man, Iron-Man or Avengers will even be in that discussion.

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyhpvf2DOA1qgzg6eo1_500.jpg

[Andrei89]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpvOT6HJCmg

FU**ING EPIC. Marvel simply cannot fu** with the deep, sorrow filled plots of the DC universe and nobody can fu** with Nolan when it comes to making Superhero movies. This trailer debuted yesterday or day before and was only shown in DKR showings.


Why did they use LOTR music in the trailer?:facepalm

[Nick Young]

the trailer looks like Lord of the Rings in America mixed with Lou Ferrigno Incredible Hulk. Is that the music when Haldir dies in the trailer of a superman movie? WTF


Why is he hitchhiking around when he can fly?
WTF superman? He is the most boring character in comics, thats why superman movies suck.

Also, after they way he god owned like a bitch in Dark Knight Strikes Again, it's hard to like that guy.


Atleast this actor doesnt look like a bitch.

[Jailblazers7]

The trailer looks like this could be an interesting take on Superman. I'm interested in the movie now.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

:roll:

Kevin Smith talks about Superman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk)

[Rose]

:roll:

Kevin Smith talks about Superman (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk)
Awesome!:roll:

[D-Rose]

The trailer looks really good, am liking these dark superhero films from Nolan. Can't wait :rockon:

[ukplayer4]

i dont know why everyone is anti snyder, the guy is a total loose canon you dont know what you are gonna get with him, thats what makes him interesting. he directed watchmen which is arguably the best comic book film of all imo. he has done some utter garbage but this effort looks distinctly low key and no doubt nolan has reigned him in. will be interesting to see how this turns out.

[Clippersfan86]

i dont know why everyone is anti snyder, the guy is a total loose canon you dont know what you are gonna get with him, thats what makes him interesting. he directed watchmen which is arguably the best comic book film of all imo. he has done some utter garbage but this effort looks distinctly low key and no doubt nolan has reigned him in. will be interesting to see how this turns out.

I never got into Watchmen. Solid but far from the best IMO. I actually liked Kickass far more even as a straight superhero movie.

[Draz]

The director of batman?

[Clippersfan86]

The director of batman?

Yup.

[dunksby]

Growing up where comic books culture was almost non-existent and my only exposure to comics where via watching the animation series and a movie or two here and there the only comic series that intrigued me was Batman because pretty much all the villains were/are crazy mental mofos with sick appetites. Now years later as an adult I still find Batman (along with V) the only compelling comic series and one that does not feel extremely cheesy or that it has been written for kids. I just can't imagine myself as an adult still being a fan of the Incredible Hulk for instance or say that I'm a Superman fan with a straight face, it's just too juvenile for my taste. But maybe that's because comic books were never big where I grew up.

[Juges8932]

I think Superman is being severely underrated here as a character. Everybody is making him out to be this perfect, boring character. That just isn't the case; there is a lot that goes into his character and his struggles to integrate into this world (Earth) while trying to figure out his history (where he comes from, who his family is, why was he sent here, was he for good or evil, etc etc). I am definitely looking forward to this movie. I don't have any expectations going into it (same with the Batman movies), so I will just see what comes out and make my judgement after I have seen it.

To argue the DC vs Marvel thing:

The Batman trilogy, IMO, is the best of any comic-book movies I have seen overall. No, I'm not saying they are the most entertaining or interesting (That is purely subjective). Just from a straight evaluation of the story, cast, feel, writing, directing, etc (Which can be evaluated fairly objectively). I can agree that Iron Man gives them a run for their money because the cast of those movies are pretty damn good too. They are just entirely different in feel and are designed to be more light (in feel). The Batman movies weigh you down (in a good way) with how deep and emotional they are. However, I completely disagree that the last Spider-Man trilogy is anywhere close to Batman, Iron Man, or even the new Spider-Man movie that recently came out. Avengers was real good and falls in line with the Iron Man type of feel and setting, which makes sense. I think the characters of DC just lend themselves to being the type of movies that reflect what I was talking about with Batman in comparison to Marvel. It doesn't make Marvel inferior; just means that it is different and will not get the critical praise that movies like this Batman trilogy gets. I love the Marvel movies and I get excited as Hell for them. Can't wait for Avengers II or Iron Man III.

[Faptastrophe]

I know that I'll probably enjoy 'MAN OF STEEL', but it won't be the same without Tom Welling..
I'll just wait for the next Superman movie and will hope he gets the role next time.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-i07FZiarahM/TiccUqfdf-I/AAAAAAAAAAA/Z1MBg02r5YQ/s320/Tom%2BWelling.jpg http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTk1NTM1OTE5M15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTc1MTA1NA@@.j pg

[Meticode]

I just watched the teaser trailer for the first time. I got goosebumps. I've never been a Superman fan, but I've always wanted them to release something that would do it justice. Hopefully this totally new reboot from Nolan (as producer) will do what he did for Batman, but with Superman. From the trailer music sounds like Zimmer is composing too, although I could be mistaken.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpvOT6HJCmg

[lakers_forever]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KVu3gS7iJu4

Looks great!

[ZeN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KVu3gS7iJu4

Looks great!
This is the first time that im actually interested in anything Superman related. I like the grounded type version that it seems they are going for. Hopefully the trailer delivers on its promise.

[-p.tiddy-]

Zod comes to Earth in a space ship?

hmm...

I loved Superman 2 as a child even though today it is very corny...I hope this one doesn't upset me

[ZeN]

Zod comes to Earth in a space ship?

hmm...

I loved Superman 2 as a child even though today it is very corny...I hope this one doesn't upset me
In the comic book world there have been varied amounts of Zod entrances into storylines. Although I doubt that it will help with peoples perception of how hes shown in this movie..lol

[-p.tiddy-]

http://blogging.la/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Kneel_before_Zod_300.jpg

[EnoughSaid]

Was always a little bit on the fence about Superman-related media, but the latest trailer looks really good and interesting. Will probably go see it.

[Timmy D for MVP]

So long as they don't try to make it grim and gritty, or the "realistic version" then it should be at the very least decent.

I think it has potential, that trailer seems to tease more at the Superman as an outsider storyline which I think could work extremely well.

[CeltsGarlic]

Well, it was strange, I mean it doesnt look anything like a superman I saw before. Looking forward.

[Just2McFly]

:confusedshrug: I dont see the appeal behind superman

[Jordan-esque]

Few concerns, from what others have been saying in cbm forums:

#1 - Clark's dad, Jonathan Kent (Kevin Costner's) line about maybe letting the kids die, that didn't sit very well. Too overly dramatic.

#2 - The last line about being rejected by the world, can you say X-Men? They're going with the whole "people are afraid of you."

#3 - Superman de-humanization by being taken into custody, etc. feels like the studio will be force feeding us the audience of the relatability of Superman, kind of like "hey guys, we know Superman is so powerful and all but look, he has feelings too." It's fine, I just hope they don't keep shoving it in our faces throughout the film.

Liked the trailer, but didn't love it.

[Graviton]

That trailer was more like an extended teaser, not a single scene that lasted for over 3 seconds, no real display of action or set pieces. Just overly dramatic narrative and emo Superman scenes, trailer felt like Family Guy with all the scene jumping.

[Noah Rose]

Ehh.

Not bad but not impressed.

Superman movies becoming too Emo.

[Money 23]

#1 - Clark's dad, Jonathan Kent (Kevin Costner's) line about maybe letting the kids die, that didn't sit very well. Too overly dramatic.
Why is that overly dramatic? He's essentially saying be careful who you show these abilities to because it will frighten people and they will come for you.

He then says "whatever type of person you choose to be, good character or bad, you'll change the world"

Unlike Jor-El who says "hey, you're destined to do this', Pa-Kent is saying "this is your decision on who to be" ... he's giving the control of his life BACK to Clark. That's a great father figure. He's just reminding him of potential reactions.


2 - The last line about being rejected by the world, can you say X-Men? They're going with the whole "people are afraid of you."
Can you say SUPERMAN?

This element has been in the comics for quite sometime. Especially the good ones IE Birthright, etc.

Like all great Chris Nolan / David Goyer fantasies, they ask what would happen if you took this fantastic and completely un-realistic concept, and put it smack dab in the middle of OUR recognizable world. What would happen?

In TDK trilogy? Batman is hunted by the cops, the mob, master criminals, copy cat vigilantes, and terrorists. People's opinions differ on the value he brings to Gotham. Some believe it's good, some believe it's bad.

Needless to say, he has ACTUAL impact. It makes the material more serious, and for the audience believable. People, and events respond to his presence in our world. The audience in turn takes the drama more seriously, and makes things more exciting.

Same goes for Superman but to a greater extent. It's not just how one city reacts to him, Superman's abilities make him a GLOBAL THREAT if he wasn't such a good guy.

And the US military doesn't know if he's good or bad, so it makes sense they would seek out such a potential threat to our existence.

This makes the material more interesting, and GASP gives the most powerful mainstream superhero character obstacles to overcome. What if he has to fight the US military at the same time as having to save lives and battle Zod and an alien invasion.

He's polarizing because of his monumental abilities, so of course in reality some people would believe him to be a christ like figure, and others (possible majority) would be absolutely of afraid of a man with such god like abilities.

If anything, this LOGICAL approach to how people would react to a Superman figure makes things 100% more interesting. As opposed to Superman:TM where everyone blindly accepts him (apart from Luthor) ...

It adds nice tension, and angst within the character. Why is this a concern? And people being afraid of a powerful character isn't inherent to X-Men.

:facepalm


3 - Superman de-humanization by being taken into custody, etc. feels like the studio will be force feeding us the audience of the relatability of Superman, kind of like "hey guys, we know Superman is so powerful and all but look, he has feelings too." It's fine, I just hope they don't keep shoving it in our faces throughout the film.
That's the only way that's plausible to relate an alien from another planet who has god like powers to the audience.

You humanize him by putting him through internal struggles as well as external. Who am I in this world? What's my niche? These questions Clark asks of himself are the same things we go through.

Him getting taken into custody by the US Military is just used to show Superman willingly trying to show folks he's not here to harm US ... he's not the Batman. He doesn't fight police officers.

He's trying to show people he's good natured. He's wholesome. A genuine good guy. He doesn't walk any line between hero and obsessive / frightening vigilante the way Batman does.

How his Superman being taken into custody de-humanizing him, btw? If anything, that is very consciously HUMANIZING him. A Man of Steel wouldn't be arrested if he didn't want to be. Regular people get arrested by people of authority all the time. Sometimes for misunderstood reasons.

LOVED the new teaser trailer. Clearly the "Batman Begins" but for Superman. Iconic casting, too. I love Kevin Costner, Russell Crowe, Amy Adams, Laurence Fishburn and especially Michael Shannon as actors.

This will easily be better than Iron Man 3, and all it's "Tony Stark Rises" rip off glory.

LMAO @ people confusing "emo" for internalization and character drama and growth. In fact, EMO actually means something entirely different.

Thank god we're done with the campy take on superheroes. Just play it straight. If not, and you want to make it ludicrous. Go all out and make it full blown camp. That's why I respect "Batman and Robin" more so than the other films. It had the balls to have purity of vision. Don't make a semi-serious film, with your tongue in cheek and not actually respect the material and the character.

[Noah Rose]

Watching it a 2nd time, feels even more EMO than the last time.

[Graviton]

@Money 23

Iron Man 3 has Ben Kingsley, the Man of Steel will fall. Besides, Nolan didn't direct it, doubt it will be as good as TDK trilogy with Snyder.

[Graviton]

Lol you hating on Marvel too much, didn't you like First Class? They said they ****ed up with Iron Man 2, that's why 3 will be more like the original.

Not everything needs to be gritty, realistic and dramatic, as long as the movie is entertaining with great performances, I think we can be satisfied. Oh and Blade 2>Blade dawg, come at me.

I care more about the RT score, Man of Steel may end up higher than Iron Man 3. Anything with Nolan's name on it gets extra respect.

[Jailblazers7]

Looks good.

Not sure why it has to be a Marvel vs DC debate every time one of these movies come out.

[Money 23]

Lol you hating on Marvel too much, didn't you like First Class?
I'm talking about Marvel Studios. They deserve to be hated on ... Movies being made in marketing office think tanks for kids, instead of by film makers.

First Class was okay. Good in parts, but apart from Fassenberg it was whatever. Kevin Bacon as the villain was ridiculous. Un-intentionally funny, too.

It had a bunch of no name actors, C class roster of X-Men characters too. Like I said, good in parts but it isn't iconic or anything.


They said they ****ed up with Iron Man 2, that's why 3 will be more like the original.
So they just want to re-make the original? Even without Faveraeu? And a visibly less interested Downey Jr?

RDJ looked bored as hell in Avengers. And his shtick wasn't as cute in IM 2 as it was in the original.

In the original he had the appropriate amount of charm, wit (without being annoying) with actual depth, character development, sincerity and nuance.

That was gone from his performance in both IM 2 and Avengers. Seemed like he said to hell with it, and was doing a caricature of himself instead.

IM 3 looks like one giant rip off of TDK Rises.


everything needs to be gritty, realistic and dramatic
Where did I say everything needs to be gritty, dark, or dramatic?

I completely understand not every character is Batman. So the dark visuals, nihilistic undertones, noir type cinema, and tragic character arcs aren't a fit with every mythology.

But realism is a must, as is drama. Drama is what makes compelling stories and characters. Well, realism is the wrong word, plausibility is a must. Otherwise you're just making a campy, live action cartoon strictly for kids.

The best comic book movies, which are ADAPTATIONS of material, don't literally translate from page to screen. Like say that ridiculous CA costume in Avengers.

With real world people, actors, scenarios in order to make a movie more investment worthy, you take the fantastic characters and ideas and ADAPT them to the real world. Thus, making them plausible.

Thus there are a certain amount of changes that need to be made to make things believable or palatable. Otherwise, just make a full blown cartoon movie for kids.

That's why the first Iron Man works. It's plausible.


Oh and Blade 2>Blade dawg, come at me.
On what grounds? The over the top, hyper stylized, idiosyncratic, redundant sequel made by the horrendous and ridiculously over the top "director" Guillermo Del Toro?

Blade 2 has moments, mainly because of Wesley Snipes complete ownage of that character, and the moments of levity from Ron Pearlman. Outside of that, the film is worse on every level.

That "gritty" feel is what gave the film such appeal, and gave it the cult following it deserved. Blade 2 takes things WAY over the top.

So maybe in essence, you prefer the more hyper stylized, campy, and cheesier take on comic book characters.

What? :oldlol:


I care more about the RT score, Man of Steel may end up higher than Iron Man 3. Anything with Nolan's name on it gets extra respect.
Because his stuff deserves it. M.O.S. much like Batman Begins in 2005, is having to resurrect a franchise from beneath the earth. Going into a film w/o hype, and having to fight the demons of crappy movies that came before it an up hill battle.

IM 3 will get swarmed by the masses, and they'll think it's good even if it isn't. I mean hell, Avengers has like between 94% - 96% on RT. That movie was balls outside of the Hulk in the 3rd act.

I don't go by RT score in all cases. Some of them are way off ... as you can see.

[-p.tiddy-]

Not sure why it has to be a Marvel vs DC debate every time one of these movies come out.



because DC :bowdown:

http://collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Watchmen_Movie_Posters/watchmen_teaser_movie_poster.jpg

GOAT superhero movie

[-p.tiddy-]

Watchmen is up there for sure.

Slept on, too.
It was groundbreaking IMO

I didn't realize it's greatness the first time I saw it, after the second and third time I then realized there is just nothing else like it

[-p.tiddy-]

I love the Illuminati / Secret Society sub text.

That Alan Moore, he's a genius.

The book is better, though.
yeah I know most fans of the comic/graphic novel aren't big fans of the film...that's just because movies never get all the details right that fanboys love so much

[-p.tiddy-]

Watchmen was one of kind, and while this Superman flick might be great, it's still in the same mold as every other Super hero movie

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

First Class was okay. Good in parts, but apart from Fassenberg it was whatever. Kevin Bacon as the villain was ridiculous. Un-intentionally funny, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyw8973Ql30

Fassbender was the perfect Mangeto. Dude is like the James Bond of villians. I agree that other than his character, the movie was (just) OK.

[Graviton]

@Money

So do you feel The Dark Knight Rises was a disappointment as well with the implausible plot and turn of events? Because it had as many unrealistic, silly moments as those Marvel movies. Compared to TDK, it wasn't as well constructed. Joker played chess while Bane was on checkers. The movie was a real letdown due to all the facepalm worthy events.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQJuGeqdbn4

[D-Wade316]

:banana:

[Jordan-esque]

Ehh.

Not bad but not impressed.

Superman movies becoming too Emo.
HOW DARE YOU!!!!

As a DC Fanboy, I say that your opinion does not count!

I will go ahead and break down every single one of your sentences and tell you why you are WRONG using my fanboy knowledge of comicbooks!


Ehh.

Ehh is not even a word in the dictionary! You must have low brain cells for writing something that does not exist!


Not bad but not impressed.

Not impressed!!?? Did you just see a man in blue spandex flying? And you're not impressed? Who are you? Chris Angel? Normal people who sees a man flying in the air will naturally be impressed, hence you are not normal.


Superman movies becoming too Emo.

Superman is NOT Emo! Maybe Clark Kent, but Superman is not! Superman maybe a voyeur (See Superman Returns movie i.e. Lois Lane apartment scene) but Emo he is not. In fact, the more Emo Superman becomes, the less emo he is. Superman Birthright and Superman Origins show that Superman has human roots!

People like you who don't like this trailer should zip it, or I will breakdown your comments once again! This is the greatest trailer ever made! This is also the greatest movie ever made even if I haven't seen it yet! People like yourself aren't entitled to an opinion! If you think it's emo then you're just a Marvel fan!

:hammerhead:

[Jailblazers7]

Yep, Watchmen was awesome.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

HOW DARE YOU!!!! ...
http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/1413-butthurt.png

[D-Wade316]

Am I the only one that loves the color of the trailer?

[Noah Rose]

HOW DARE YOU!!!!

As a DC Fanboy, I say that your opinion does not count!

I will go ahead and break down every single one of your sentences and tell you why you are WRONG using my fanboy knowledge of comicbooks!



Ehh is not even a word in the dictionary! You must have low brain cells for writing something that does not exist!



Not impressed!!?? Did you just see a man in blue spandex flying? And you're not impressed? Who are you? Chris Angel? Normal people who sees a man flying in the air will naturally be impressed, hence you are not normal.



Superman is NOT Emo! Maybe Clark Kent, but Superman is not! Superman maybe a voyeur (See Superman Returns movie i.e. Lois Lane apartment scene) but Emo he is not. In fact, the more Emo Superman becomes, the less emo he is. Superman Birthright and Superman Origins show that Superman has human roots!

People like you who don't like this trailer should zip it, or I will breakdown your comments once again! This is the greatest trailer ever made! This is also the greatest movie ever made even if I haven't seen it yet! People like yourself aren't entitled to an opinion! If you think it's emo then you're just a Marvel fan!

:hammerhead:

:oldlol:

:bowdown:

I don't know why there are some fans whom are butthurt about a person's opinion that they'd feel they have to give a sermon telling why they're wrong.

That said, I still think this movie is too Emo.

[Money 23]

@Graviton

The Dark Knight Rises wasn't as tight as it's predecessor, so in that regards I guess it's a disappointment. But I didn't expect it to be as great as that film.

Few films are that caliber. TDK Rises didn't have near the amount of silly moments as the Marvel films. Hell, the concept of Thor in of itself is beyond silly. Him and his not so subtle gay, sexually repressed brother.

You freely admit yourself that you follow RT scores. Rises got a very high 80% ranking, no?

All movies have what can be considered plot holes. ALL OF THEM. You can comb over with a fine tooth comb and find SOMETHING in every film. It's about the suspension of disbelief in order to tell the story at hand.

Nolan's films far exceed doing this compared to the Marvel Studio counterparts. You actually agreed with me about this ... that's why they are easily the elite films in the genre.

Bane plays his version of chess as well. Dude executed his entire plan, broke the protagonist physically, before being stopped at the last moment.

A lot of the issues raised in the "honest trailer" review can be explained, some facts they got down right wrong, or issues that can be explained with simple logic.

One of the complaints in that "honest trailer" was literally that Bruce Wayne had a depression beard. Can't you articulate your own issues with the movie, without giving a youtube link to a video channel whose entire purpose is to make people laugh?

[Timmy D for MVP]

Reading some of these threads reminds me that I am in fact a comic geek.

Either that or I'm not picking up on some sarcasm by you guys.

To the Watchmen movie I am not a fan of the GN really. Like I understand that it's good, and why it's good but I wasn't really enjoying it. I personally thought the movie was alright. There were some good and even great moments but it never really did enough to stay above decent for me.

[Graviton]

@Money

I would type my issues instead of the video, but my PS3 allows limited sentences. In short...

Yes, Bane had a plan but it was all on Talia's orders, he was just a goon. When Bruce got out of the hole and faced him, Banewas shocked at how his brilliant plan failed. Joker strategized 50 steps ahead and even in the end he won, he corrupted Harvey, forced Batman/Gordon to spread the lie. He was victorious, he showcased that even Batman/Gordon aren't above using lies and deceit to fool their people just to protect a maniac. Joker's plan was flawless, he took over the mob, scared the cops, and showed that no one is truly "clean". Bane's plan was just brute force, but when Batman came back and he faced resistance, he had nothing. His plan was just the physical destruction of Gotham, but the psychological damage Joker had done stayed with the city even after all those years. As a Villain, Joker was in another dimension, he was a true genius of terror and understood how to truly break people and their hope.

[kentatm]

Kevin Smith: Dark Knight Rises plot holes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W_PoL-dXf0)

[andgar923]

because DC :bowdown:

http://collider.com/uploads/imageGallery/Watchmen_Movie_Posters/watchmen_teaser_movie_poster.jpg

GOAT superhero movie

Sorry, one of the worst I've seen.

Pretentious played out, 20 years too late.

The comic may have been ahead of its time when it first appeared, but he movie sure as hell didn't.

Bad acting, bad directing, cliche scenes (shitload of them), pretentious from the get go.

I wanted to love this film, was very disappointed.

[-p.tiddy-]

Sorry, one of the worst I've seen.

Pretentious played out, 20 years too late.

The comic may have been ahead of its time when it first appeared, but he movie sure as hell didn't.

Bad acting, bad directing, cliche scenes (shitload of them), pretentious from the get go.

I wanted to love this film, was very disappointed.
what was cliche?

to me the entire film was the complete opposite of normal Super Hero films...

you want to know what cliche is? the villain stabbing Batman in the side and describing her entire master plan to him before he could die...THAT is cliche

Watchmen? the Super Hero's die...one right at the start...it was then shown that he killed a woman pregnant with his child...One is the Heros is 1000x more powerful than the rest...a nuke goes off...etc...it was anything BUT typical

[Loneshot]

Yeah, what the hell is up with villains revealing their master plan when dealing with protagonist with a history of always coming out on top in the end? Its like how Jack Bauer always figures out the plan behind the plan behind the master plan that no one else seem to be able to notice. You start to wish villains would just stfu, at least until their plan actually goes through.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Yeah, what the hell is up with villains revealing their master plan when dealing with protagonist with a history of always coming out on top in the end? Its like how Jack Bauer always figures out the plan behind the plan behind the master plan that no one else seem to be able to notice. You start to wish villains would just stfu, at least until their plan actually goes through.

Old comic book trope. They make fun of it sometimes because it was, and continues to be prevalent in the genre.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Kevin Smith: Dark Knight Rises plot holes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W_PoL-dXf0)
geez, hour and a half long?

[D-Wade316]

what was cliche?

to me the entire film was the complete opposite of normal Super Hero films...

you want to know what cliche is? the villain stabbing Batman in the side and describing her entire master plan to him before he could die...THAT is cliche

Watchmen? the Super Hero's die...one right at the start...it was then shown that he killed a woman pregnant with his child...One is the Heros is 1000x more powerful than the rest...a nuke goes off...etc...it was anything BUT typical
"When someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart."

[Loneshot]

After watching the second trailer, movie is looking a bit boring.

[ZeN]

"When someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart."
:oldlol:

[D-Wade316]

:oldlol:
WTF. Didn't notice that until now. :oldlol:

:coleman:

[-p.tiddy-]

I recently watched Dark Knight Rises again on PPV...I found it to be much worse than I remember

starting from when Batman walks up to Gordon on the ice, lights up his flaming bat symbol until then end, is just filled with cringe worthy scenes.

the entire giant melee fight...a giant fist fight (while everyone has guns) is almost like something from the old Batman TV show

Bane and Batman magically find each other in the center of huge fist fight :facepalm

the stabbing in the side while telling Batman her whole master plan :facepalm

Cat woman saves the day complete with cheezy one-liner


That whole scene is so awful, it damn near ruins what is really a great movie...I wish he would redo the end, because it really isn't good at all.

[bagelred]

I recently watched Dark Knight Rises again on PPV...I found it to be much worse than I remember



It certainly wasn't as epic as they wanted it to be. The movie felt hollow...especially as compared to the 2nd one.

[Loneshot]

You are no fun

Yeah, seeing holes where there aren't really holes. The main hole i can see people complaining about is how Bruce got back into Gotham when it was supposed to be on lockdown. I've watched the movie about four times and each time its still very entertaining. Its a three hour movie (i think) that feels like it goes by in half the time, a sign of great pacing and directing.

[-p.tiddy-]

not claiming thos to be "holes' just super cheezy

I was waiting to see
http://zibbet-production.s3.amazonaws.com/images/452/2262912-original.jpg
during that giant fist fight

[Loneshot]

At the end of the day its still a movie about a grown man dressing up as a super hero to fight bad guys without the use of guns. I know Nolan grounds it so much that people expect a dark psychological drama, but only so much can be done without scrapping the Batman character completely.

[Draz]

Second trailer looks amazingggggg

[Immortal Bum]

superman would be a much more interesting character if his alter ego was a homeless alcoholic named hancock.

[sunsfan1357]

At the end of the day its still a movie about a grown man dressing up as a super hero to fight bad guys without the use of guns. I know Nolan grounds it so much that people expect a dark psychological drama, but only so much can be done without scrapping the Batman character completely.
I understand your point, however fans of the movies can't have it two ways. Can't knock other super hero movies based on "realism" yet not take any criticism for people not understanding how Batman survives and manages to swim to safety after releasing a bomb into the ocean just seconds before it detonates.

[ErhnamDjinn]

I recently watched Dark Knight Rises again on PPV...I found it to be much worse than I remember

starting from when Batman walks up to Gordon on the ice, lights up his flaming bat symbol until then end, is just filled with cringe worthy scenes.

the entire giant melee fight...a giant fist fight (while everyone has guns) is almost like something from the old Batman TV show

Bane and Batman magically find each other in the center of huge fist fight :facepalm

the stabbing in the side while telling Batman her whole master plan :facepalm

Cat woman saves the day complete with cheezy one-liner


That whole scene is so awful, it damn near ruins what is really a great movie...I wish he would redo the end, because it really isn't good at all.
I actually had to agree on these points, it was a good movie but they could have done better. I was actually expecting Robin to take over the reins of batman when Bane broke his back. Still wasnt as good as the 2nd movie.

[Immortal Bum]

if there was an all out brawl in your city, who would you go after? the guy with the freakish looking device on his face who is snapping people's necks, the guy dressed in black rubber from head-to-toe who thinks he's a bat, a dude who appears to be a common street thug, or lastly, a wimpy looking police officer?

i'd say considering the above, its pretty easy to see how batman and bane found each other in the crowd.

[Graviton]

if there was an all out brawl in your city, who would you go after? the guy with the freakish looking device on his face who is snapping people's necks, the guy dressed in black rubber from head-to-toe who thinks he's a bat, a dude who appears to be a common street thug, or lastly, a wimpy looking police officer?
:lol

I doubt Bruce actually survived. Do you guys actually think Batman would trust an autopilot with a nuclear weapon and the lives of everyone in Gotham? He was gonna sacrifice himself to save the city, that was foreshadowed with all the prior dialogue, "I haven't given them everything, not yet", "You either die a hero", etc. Batman was always destined to sacrifice himself for Gotham.

The 5 seconds, autopilot and the Italy scene were just for hope. That even in darkest days hoppe keeps us goin. But Alfred was imagining them, he said before that was his wish. A supposedly dead famous billionaire sitting at a crowded cafe would draw lot of attention.

[-p.tiddy-]

if there was an all out brawl in your city, who would you go after? the guy with the freakish looking device on his face who is snapping people's necks, the guy dressed in black rubber from head-to-toe who thinks he's a bat, a dude who appears to be a common street thug, or lastly, a wimpy looking police officer?

i'd say considering the above, its pretty easy to see how batman and bane found each other in the crowd.
first off it would look NOTHING like that...it would look like guerrilla warfare in Iraq or something...everyone had guns yet no one used them for some reason

second, even if I did accept them finding each other in the middle of this massive brawl, the fact that they somehow found themselves in peace and quiet alone in a room where the other 10,000 brawlers didn't stumble into is also very silly and hard to look past....



and yeah, "it's a movie" but Batman takes itself way too seriously for that silly brawl IMO

[LA Lakers]

Cant stand Zach Snyder. One of the worst Hollywood popcorn ticket sales CGI sensory overload directors.

[rezznor]

first off it would look NOTHING like that...it would look like guerrilla warfare in Iraq or something...everyone had guns yet no one used them for some reason

second, even if I did accept them finding each other in the middle of this massive brawl, the fact that they somehow found themselves in peace and quiet alone in a room where the other 10,000 brawlers didn't stumble into is also very silly and hard to look past....



and yeah, "it's a movie" but Batman takes itself way too seriously for that silly brawl IMO
yeah, that shit was stupid. o look here's a big scary guy breaking all the cops necks, lets run up to him instead of just shooting his ass from a safe distance?

also, how the **** does catwoman roll up on that loud ass motorcycle without bane or batman hearing?

[rezznor]

:lol

I doubt Bruce actually survived. Do you guys actually think Batman would trust an autopilot with a nuclear weapon and the lives of everyone in Gotham? He was gonna sacrifice himself to save the city, that was foreshadowed with all the prior dialogue, "I haven't given them everything, not yet", "You either die a hero", etc. Batman was always destined to sacrifice himself for Gotham.

The 5 seconds, autopilot and the Italy scene were just for hope. That even in darkest days hoppe keeps us goin. But Alfred was imagining them, he said before that was his wish. A supposedly dead famous billionaire sitting at a crowded cafe would draw lot of attention.


u forgot the part at the end when fox finds out bruce had already fixed the autopilot

[Graviton]

u forgot the part at the end when fox finds out bruce had already fixed the autopilot
Yea that too, but it doesn't mean he actually used it. It's not like he was thinking "Yea few months from now I will use this to transport an atomic bomb".

I can't see Batman trusting an autopilot with the nuke, everything in the trilogy was an allusion to his sacrifice. Those little scenes in the end were there just to keep the hope alive.

[Meticode]

Man of Steel looks promising. I'm looking forward to it. I'm glad Nolan is a part of it.

[Clippersfan86]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DaPBBOHfsA

Newest trailer from a month and a half ago. Holy shit... I never liked Superman but have a feeling I may like this as much as Batman :bowdown: :bowdown:

[rezznor]

new trailer looks pretty damn good but...holy lens flare batman!

[Meticode]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DaPBBOHfsA

Newest trailer from a month and a half ago. Holy shit... I never liked Superman but have a feeling I may like this as much as Batman :bowdown: :bowdown:
I feel the same way. I never disliked or liked Superman, I just never got into it probably because I felt he wasn't portrayed the way I liked on film. Batman always caught my interest first becuase the first Batman movie in '89 was pretty decent and it always felt more realistic to me. Superman Returns was the closest thing to that, but even then I didn't like it very much. With Nolan and Synder part of this it looks very promising. I will definitely catch it at the theaters.

[Derka]

Well...at least he punches stuff in this one. That alone has me interested.

[D-Wade316]

Nice. But I hope Snyder would go away with Nolan's often indulgent exposition.

[Lebron23]

Oh my God. It looks like it's already better than the Dark Knight Rises.

[D-Wade316]

Lawl no.

[highwhey]

even newer trailer!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T6DJcgm3wNY

somewhere out there clippersfan is enjoying it while sucking some d!ck

looks good!!
and apparently kryptonite doesnt exist in this superman movie/series... :o
:oldlol:

looks great though...cant wait.

[IamRAMBO24]

Looks like nothing more than a Dark Knight rip off. Pass.

[eriX]

Looks like nothing more than a Dark Knight rip off. Pass.

except christopher nolan is involved in both movies :confusedshrug:

good one.

[IamRAMBO24]

except christopher nolan is involved in both movies :confusedshrug:

good one.

He didn't direct. He basically said, "Here's the script to Batman, so just change a few things and voila you have a new movie." Heck even Superman has the same beard as Batman when he went on that stupid adventure to "find himself."

[steve franchise]

He didn't direct. He basically said, "Here's the script to Batman, so just change a few things and voila you have a new movie." Heck even Superman has the same beard as Batman when he went on that stupid adventure to "find himself."

You are so cool and original. Help me be more like you.

[Loneshot]

that last trailer...idk, something about this film seems very boring.

[Bandito]

The trailer seems to be an interesting movie to say the least. I like the music though...

[andgar923]

that last trailer...idk, something about this film seems very boring.
all the CGI?

Zack's films are purrty to look at but are flaky.

[CelticBaller]

looks awesome

[The-Legend-24]

Looks awesome, this shit better not disappoint.

[juju151111]

Looks like nothing more than a Dark Knight rip off. Pass.
No its not its from the comic book birthright made in 2004 05

[KingBeasley08]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlOF03DUoWc


damn :eek: the action looks legit. im officially a go for this

[bagelred]

Newest trailer. I dunno.....looks similar to the original if you asked me.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8a8nx84aAk


Another version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWxPTAqSdJc



.

[Jailblazers7]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlOF03DUoWc


damn :eek: the action looks legit. im officially a go for this

Yeah, that trailer looked pretty damn cool.

It seems like every comic book movie that looks somewhat good these days gets called a copy of TDK.

[hateraid]

Just finished watching it. I was in and out. So I missed a few parts.

Was Louis Lane's memory wiped? When Clark applied at the Planet was she faking the fact she knew him?

[ArbitraryWater]

wasnt this movie hot garbage?

And didnt Bryan Singer go on to make the amazing Hannibal? Lol

[ZeN]

wasnt this movie hot garbage?

And didnt Bryan Singer go on to make the amazing Hannibal? Lol
You are thinking of Bryan Fuller.

[ArbitraryWater]

You are thinking of Bryan Fuller.

wow... and they're both gay, too.

[hateraid]

Just finished watching it. I was in and out. So I missed a few parts.

Was Louis Lane's memory wiped? When Clark applied at the Planet was she faking the fact she knew him?

Can anybody answer this?

[macmac]

Watching this movie is like having your own grandfather finger your asshole....I give it 3 and half stars