Can Kobe Ever Dream of a One Handed Tomohawk Dunk Like This?

[gengiskhan]

Just loved the way He set the dunk up with one quick dribble just after receiving Pass in full speed. :bowdown:

May Be Da Best "One Handed Leaner Tomohawk Dunk of all Time" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA44NtwDU6s&feature=related)

& Ball bouncing off a shoulder like dat. Its like a flying Falcon attacking the rim viciously. :bowdown:

I've seen lots of one handed tomohawks attempted by Kobe & Vince, Nothing comes close to this one.

This one is pure Carnage. :bowdown:

[KB2009Champ]

Yet another Kobe thread.

WTF are ya'll going to do when he retires?

[ThaSwagg3r]

:oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_YKOSKobws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47h8Ft_J8uM



Could MJ do this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8nlyS3LwGc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fTnzzlWSjo

[Jacks3]

:facepalm

[StacksOnDeck]

MJ fans are sad.

[Doranku]

Damn, MJ stans are pathetic... :facepalm

[Fatal9]

Kobe is a better in game dunker than MJ. Deal with it.

http://i28.tinypic.com/8vyqdl.jpg

[lefthook00]

That was more of a leaner than a tomahawk. Smooth, just like all of MJ's dunks.

This is a better set up and a better tomahawk, plus the ball bounces off David Robinson's head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnhjlEZdwo

For the Kobe dunks posted, here is MJ doing a 360 but with less swag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpg4XYa4Bi8

[TheLogo]

Just loved the way He set the dunk up with one quick dribble just after receiving Pass in full speed. :bowdown:

May Be Da Best "One Handed Leaner Tomohawk Dunk of all Time" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA44NtwDU6s&feature=related)

& Ball bouncing off a shoulder like dat. Its like a flying Falcon attacking the rim viciously. :bowdown:

I've seen lots of one handed tomohawks attempted by Kobe & Vince, Nothing comes close to this one.

This one is pure Carnage. :bowdown:

MJ could never do this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akMiX_FKCdQ

[imdaman99]

kobe has had no regard for human life, where are MJs no regard for human life dunks? :oldlol:

[DMV2]

Yet another Kobe thread.

WTF are ya'll going to do when he retires?
The better question is, what are the Kobe d*ckriders gonna do when he retires knowing he'll barely make it into the Top 10 list?

Chances are guys like Durant, Dwight and hell even LeBron could surpass him.

You see, Jordan's legend as the Greatest of All-time is already set in stone. Ain't nothing gonna change; at least not in our lifetime. Jordan stans have nothing to worry about.

I see why Kobe stans are always hyping him up because deep down inside they know Kobe is somewhere at #10-#12. His legacy is threaten by current & future superstars.

[DMV2]

The better question is, what are the Kobe d*ckriders gonna do when he retires knowing he'll barely make it into the Top 10 list?

Chances are guys like Durant, Dwight and hell even LeBron could surpass him.

You see, Jordan's legend as the Greatest of All-time is already set in stone. Ain't nothing gonna change; at least not in our lifetime. Jordan stans have nothing to worry about.

I see why Kobe stans are always hyping him up because deep down inside they know Kobe is somewhere at #10-#12. His legacy is threaten by current & future superstars.
GODDAMN!!!! that was harsh but I had to do it.

[N0Skillz]

I say there is a 40% chance I will raise Kobe to GOAT status by the end of his career if I keep seeing what i have seen from him.


MJ's career is over and he will always be hanging around the 2-4 range

[kaiiu]

Kobe>>>> MJ as a in dunker not even close

[DMV2]

I say there is a 40% chance I will raise Kobe to GOAT status by the end of his career if I keep seeing what i have seen from him.


MJ's career is over and he will always be hanging around the 2-4 range
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Batz]

5 second browse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAFZP0OnykI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVKSl_7aW6s



And so much more. MJ can do alot of things Kobe can't, but what a horrible exaggeration yet again by Genghis. Such a horrible poster...

[TheLogo]

Kobe is making us forget a lot about MJ.

Forget those old MJ dunks....youtube Kobe and you will see some insane stuff.

[StarJordan]

can kobe the wanabe break backboard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caNVWoHLejE

[TheLogo]

can kobe break backboard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caNVWoHLejE

Those euro boards are weak.

Euros didn't know what dunking was back in that era.

[Heavincent]

can kobe the wanabe break backboard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caNVWoHLejE

It's literally impossible to break NBA backboards now a days.

[TheLogo]

It's literally impossible to break NBA backboards now a days.

It's pretty sad when the Jordan jerkers resort to a mere backboard being broken.

I thought they would at least bring up the fact that Jordan has one more ring than Kobe.

[lefthook00]

The better question is, what are the Kobe d*ckriders gonna do when he retires knowing he'll barely make it into the Top 10 list?

Chances are guys like Durant, Dwight and hell even LeBron could surpass him.

You see, Jordan's legend as the Greatest of All-time is already set in stone. Ain't nothing gonna change; at least not in our lifetime. Jordan stans have nothing to worry about.

I see why Kobe stans are always hyping him up because deep down inside they know Kobe is somewhere at #10-#12. His legacy is threaten by current & future superstars.

What's wrong with #10-12? That's pretty f*cking good. Everyone's favorite player can't be the GOAT.

[Nevaeh]

Kobe is a better in game dunker than MJ. Deal with it.

http://i28.tinypic.com/8vyqdl.jpg


Kobe's dunks look retarded though. A lot of unnecessary flailing and arm movements. Kobe fell down on a lot more of his dunks compared to MJ as well.

[DMV2]

What's wrong with #10-12? That's pretty f*cking good. Everyone's favorite player can't be the GOAT.
Top 12 is f*cking good. I've never said it bad nor did I say Kobe was a bad player. But the Kobe stans are insecure about it because they want to place him higher than he should be.

I have nothing against him as a player especially not the last 4 seasons. He's matured into a good leader since 2008. My beef with Kobe is with his earlier years(the first 7-8 seasons), a bit of it was his arrogance and selfishness, and a bit of it was the bullshhhit NBA and media hype that kept feeding the fans that he was already an all-time great even when playing second fiddle.

[StarJordan]

Those euro boards are weak.

nope jordan dunks were simply more explosive...kobe can only dream of breaking backboards.

[Batz]

Kobe's dunks look retarded though. A lot of unnecessary flailing and arm movements. Kobe fell down on a lot more of his dunks compared to MJ as well.
The quality of offseason posts. :facepalm

[Heavincent]

nope jordan dunks were simply more explosive...kobe can only dream of breaking backboards.

Because it is ****ing impossible to break NBA backboards now a days. Jordan wouldn't come remotely close to breaking a modern day NBA backboard.

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcPl2bxB_Dg

[Indian guy]

MJ's one-handed double pump dunks were a thing of beauty. Here's a better one from the '92 pre-Olympics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=intjrEU7fmE&feature=related&t=1m32s). Replay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=intjrEU7fmE&feature=related&t=1m53s). I have never seen anyone even attempt it from that angle.

[97 bulls]

Yet another Kobe thread.

WTF are ya'll going to do when he retires?
Man jordans been retired for 10 years and people still bring him up (20 if you only like to count 91-93 jordan like the jordan cult does). Kobe will be no different. The only difference is the attaacks will be from another players cult.

[Sarcastic]

They both suck compared to Vince Carter :banana:


(dunks i mean)

[Fatal9]

This is what real 10/10 tomahawk dunks look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J63IFzJckMw&#t=3m15s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIP8eevfp3c

[Smoke117]

I can't stand kobe stans and could care less about Kobe...but what was so great about that?

[Indian guy]

This is what real 10/10 tomahawk dunks look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J63IFzJckMw&#t=3m15s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIP8eevfp3c

:bowdown:

The first dunk is what I had in mind when I read the OP's post. VC was simply a freak of nature. He could not only jump the highest, but his freakishly long arms allowed him to co-ck(ISH doesn't allow me to spell it otherwise :facepalm) the ball so far back. That's one thing MJ wasn't gifted with - long arms. Kobe on the other hand does have a great wingspan, which is why his in-game dunks tend to look more authoritative than MJ's.

[HighFlyer23]

its Chengiz Khan not "Genghis" you fvking retard

and everyone knows that this tomahawk by VC is the best ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIP8eevfp3c

[purplch0de]

Just loved the way He set the dunk up with one quick dribble just after receiving Pass in full speed. :bowdown:

May Be Da Best "One Handed Leaner Tomohawk Dunk of all Time" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA44NtwDU6s&feature=related)

& Ball bouncing off a shoulder like dat. Its like a flying Falcon attacking the rim viciously. :bowdown:

I've seen lots of one handed tomohawks attempted by Kobe & Vince, Nothing comes close to this one.

This one is pure Carnage. :bowdown:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf81yM2qmhs

^ 10x more impressive

[TheLogo]

Jordan nor VC can throw down like this....I like how VC and MJ did it on an open court....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLyM3tE23cI

[OldSchoolBBall]

:bowdown:

The first dunk is what I had in mind when I read the OP's post. VC was simply a freak of nature. He could not only jump the highest, but his freakishly long arms allowed him to co-ck(ISH doesn't allow me to spell it otherwise :facepalm) the ball so far back. That's one thing MJ wasn't gifted with - long arms. Kobe on the other hand does have a great wingspan, which is why his in-game dunks tend to look better than MJ's.

Jordan's wingspan is at least as long as Kobe's. His hands alone are like 2-3" longer per hand plus he's naturally broader. Kobe's actual sleeve length can't possibly make up for all that.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Jordan nor VC can throw down like this....I like how VC and MJ did it on an open court....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLyM3tE23cI

Yeah, you're right - Jordan only did it off a single gather step off of two feet (much harder to get elevation/distance than off a running start like Kobe's dunk):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8M2NgjvicA#t=1m26s

[BlueandGold]

The better question is, what are the Kobe d*ckriders gonna do when he retires knowing he'll barely make it into the Top 10 list?

Chances are guys like Durant, Dwight and hell even LeBron could surpass him.

You see, Jordan's legend as the Greatest of All-time is already set in stone. Ain't nothing gonna change; at least not in our lifetime. Jordan stans have nothing to worry about.

I see why Kobe stans are always hyping him up because deep down inside they know Kobe is somewhere at #10-#12. His legacy is threaten by current & future superstars.
True but 10-12th ALL TIME, is nothing to sneeze at either.. It's really unfair to Kobe how much he gets compared to Jordan. Even players like Wilt, Russell, Magic, Bird and Kareem all pale in comparison to Jordan..

Jordan is the first and only undisputed GOAT the league has ever seen. All the other potential GOAT players all have asterisks or qualifiers next to their
resumes.

Russell - won but not nearly enough scoring
Wilt - dominated the game in virtually all aspects except winning
Kareem - closest to Jordan's resume yet still doesn't come close and got to play with multiple hall of famers and one of the other greatest players of all time in Magic.

[KingLeBronJames]

nope jordan dunks were simply more explosive...kobe can only dream of breaking backboards.
You're an idiot. Don't you know the rims are built differently now for about the past 15 years?

[Indian guy]

Jordan's wingspan is at least as long as Kobe's.

Do we have actual measurements online? I'm just going by what I see on video, and Kobe's do seem longer(their dunks are telling). Phil Jackson has actually mentioned this too....how Kobe's "longer" than MJ.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Do we have actual measurements online? I'm just going by what I see on video, and Kobe's do seem longer(their dunks are telling). Phil Jackson has actually mentioned this too....how Kobe's "longer" than MJ.

No, because coaches weren't obsessed enough with "wingspan" back in 1985 to actually measure it. Jordan has made dunks with just as much extension as Kobe if not more, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Again, I'm just going by the fact that it doesn't make much sense to think that Kobe's actual arm length from shoulder to finger tip is enough to offset MJ's extra 2-3" per hand (total of 4-6" conservatively) plus extra broadness across the shoulders/chest.

[BruceLeeBowen]

can kobe the wanabe break backboard?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caNVWoHLejE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1946yBnxl0

[LBJFTW]

Because it is ****ing impossible to break NBA backboards now a days. Jordan wouldn't come remotely close to breaking a modern day NBA backboard.

Some genetic freak of nature around 2020 will probably shatter today's current backboard. Probably make Shaq look like Spud Webb also.

[Heat1011]

Told ya he's overrated.......

[TheLogo]

Yeah, you're right - Jordan only did it off a single gather step off of two feet (much harder to get elevation/distance than off a running start like Kobe's dunk):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8M2NgjvicA#t=1m26s

I don't even know who that white guy was and he was late to getting to Jordan.

What I do know is that Kobe dunked on a Defensive Player of the Year...and the DPOY try to get the charge but Kobe elevated over him. :applause:

[lefthook00]

No, because coaches weren't obsessed enough with "wingspan" back in 1985 to actually measure it. Jordan has made dunks with just as much extension as Kobe if not more, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Again, I'm just going by the fact that it doesn't make much sense to think that Kobe's actual arm length from shoulder to finger tip is enough to offset MJ's extra 2-3" per hand (total of 4-6" conservatively) plus extra broadness across the shoulders/chest.

LOLLLL MJ's hands aren't 2-3 inches longer than Kobe's, that's absurd. Try an inch or so. MJ's hands are around 12" from palm base to finger tip. MJ's hands are like 2-3 inches bigger than someone who is like 6'0".

[KingBeasley08]

kobe is overrated

thread over/

[Jacks3]

No, because coaches weren't obsessed enough with "wingspan" back in 1985 to actually measure it. Jordan has made dunks with just as much extension as Kobe if not more, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. Again, I'm just going by the fact that it doesn't make much sense to think that Kobe's actual arm length from shoulder to finger tip is enough to offset MJ's extra 2-3" per hand (total of 4-6" conservatively) plus extra broadness across the shoulders/chest.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[v1ncelis]

VC >>> everyone else

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feqjTC2AiTY&feature=related

[PrimeJohnnyDepp]

Kobe's dunks look retarded though. A lot of unnecessary flailing and arm movements.

That's an irritating truth. I guess he's a bit too tall for that grace Jordan had.


kobe has had no regard for human life, where are MJs no regard for human life dunks? :oldlol:

He killed his father.

Murder > rape.

[lefthook00]

No one c0cks it back further than Josh Smith imo.
#9, #7, #5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocaatPvI90k
His tomahawks sound like a shot gun blast!

[Ikill]

No one c0cks it back further than Josh Smith imo.
#9, #7, #5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocaatPvI90k
His tomahawks sound like a shot gun blast!
slim Smith :bowdown:

[GS1905]

These Kobe stans are sad. Let it go already.

MJ = Goat. Best SG of all time.
Kobe = Top 10. 2nd best SG of all time.

[BIG FURB]

These Kobe stans are sad. Let it go already.

MJ = Goat. Best SG of all time.
Kobe = Top 10. 2nd best SG of all time.

True and true, and neither of them can dunk like Vince

[LBJFTW]

True and true, and neither of them can dunk like Vince

What SG can?

[GS1905]

True and true, and neither of them can dunk like Vince

True.

[TheLogo]

These Kobe stans are sad. Let it go already.

MJ = Goat. Best SG of all time.
Kobe = Top 10. 2nd best SG of all time.

why are Kobe fans sad?

You just admit he's one of the greatest players of all time. :bowdown: It takes a lot for fans to admit it and I like your honesty.

His career isn't ever over yet and he still can surpass Jordan.

[GS1905]

why are Kobe fans sad?

You just admit he's one of the greatest players of all time. :bowdown: It takes a lot for fans to admit it and I like your honesty.

His career isn't ever over yet and he still can surpass Jordan.

I didn't say fans I said stans. They are sad because they act like Kobe is the Goat or he's top 3 or something. I like Kobe so I don't have any problem with people saying he's top 10.

[gengiskhan]

Kobe's dunks look retarded though. A lot of unnecessary flailing and arm movements. Kobe fell down on a lot more of his dunks compared to MJ as well.

Agreed.

Not just that.

Look very closely.

Kobe actually cheats. kobe clearly using Rim as protection. Both Garnett & white center has absolutely no chance of challenging the dunk cuz the rim is in the way.

Kobe's baseline dunk is probably the most overrated dunk in NBA History. anyone can do that off baseline. Plus that wild flailing of arms & legs makes it look ugly.

[Nevaeh]

why are Kobe fans sad?

You just admit he's one of the greatest players of all time. :bowdown: It takes a lot for fans to admit it and I like your honesty.

His career isn't ever over yet and he still can surpass Jordan.


I think these kind of quotes are what cause posts like GS1905's. There ain't sh!t relevant that can bump Kobe over MJ. A few vanity achievements here and there, but that's it. If he was gonna be better than Jordan, it would have happened way sooner than year 15 of his career with only one MVP to show for it.:oldlol:

[pauk]

1. that was one of the most regular one handed tomahawks i ever seen....... not even close to one of the greatest.......... and not even close to even Jordans greatest one handed tomahawks

2. IF YOU WANT THE BEST ONE HANDED TOMAHAWKS.......... WATCH LEBRON JAMES - PRIME SHAWN KEMP - DOMINIQUE - JOSH SMITH - JAMES WHITE - JULIUS ERVING.....

3. please do not EVER mention JORDANs name next to KOBRICK CRYANT ok?

KOBRICK is only a JORDAN IMMITATOR........ HE IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO AS GOOD AS JORDAN WAS IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM...........

[TheLogo]

Agreed.

Not just that.

Look very closely.

Kobe actually cheats. kobe clearly using Rim as protection. Both Garnett & white center has absolutely no chance of challenging the dunk cuz the rim is in the way.

Kobe's baseline dunk is probably the most overrated dunk in NBA History. anyone can do that off baseline. Plus that wild flailing of arms & legs makes it look ugly.

if anyone can do it, how come I haven't seen one.

not only did Kobe just do it....that is almost like a signature dunk that people known him for.

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UwucT9Vnsk&t=2m55s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcPl2bxB_Dg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f31CEwQC8d4&playnext=1&list=PLE89A01420DB9F059

[Jacks3]

Kobe>Jordan.

[eliteballer]

Kobe is a MUCH better dunker:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3nSuERhiF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOgeMwMXAV4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKb72yyyeI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

[GS1905]

Kobe>Jordan.

Lol'd hard.

[gengiskhan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UwucT9Vnsk&t=2m55s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcPl2bxB_Dg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f31CEwQC8d4&playnext=1&list=PLE89A01420DB9F059

thanks for confirming it.

Like I said "amateur" tomohawk dunks. Kobe just cannot get the elevation & flight & lean MJ had. basically it lacks grace.

MJ did these dunks as UNC tarheel.

[eliteballer]

LOL...Kobe's dunks crap all over Jordans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3nSuERhiF0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOgeMwMXAV4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKb72yyyeI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8N4kzL3A80

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ANY Jordan dunk

[Jacks3]

Very true. Kobe is a far better dunker.

[gengiskhan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8N4kzL3A80

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ANY Jordan dunk

damn!

that shit is FUGLYYYYYY!

Kobe has got to be the worse in-game dunker ever. He's got ZERO artistry. Just look at those arms & legs flailing just to guide the ball into the rim.

Kobe da most overrated in-game dunker in NBA History.

thanks for opening up my eyes.

[Heavincent]

damn!

that shit is FUGLYYYYYY!

Kobe has got to be the worse in-game dunker ever. He's got ZERO artistry. Just look at those arms & legs flailing just to guide the ball into the rim.

Kobe da most overrated in-game dunker in NBA History.

thanks for opening up my eyes.

You have to be one of the shittiest posters in ISH history.

Congrats.

[gengiskhan]

1. that was one of the most regular one handed tomahawks i ever seen....... not even close to one of the greatest.......... and not even close to even Jordans greatest one handed tomahawks

2. IF YOU WANT THE BEST ONE HANDED TOMAHAWKS.......... WATCH LEBRON JAMES - PRIME SHAWN KEMP - DOMINIQUE - JOSH SMITH - JAMES WHITE - JULIUS ERVING.....

3. please do not EVER mention JORDANs name next to KOBRICK CRYANT ok?

KOBRICK is only a JORDAN IMMITATOR........ HE IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO AS GOOD AS JORDAN WAS IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM...........

Agreed Totally

Kobe is overrated in-game dunker. He is even worse "dunk contest" dunker.

Its the ESPN that made this cheap MJ immitator into all that.

I've never seen any Kobe dunk & went "wow".

If you look at all the kobe's "copied" one handed tomahawks, he does lot more flailing with arms & legs after dunk is just thru the rim. faaaking cheat.

how about creating in the "Air" a little bit Mr Copy Bryant just before the dunk.

He's really got no elevation & distance. Just a throw down. & does more extra curricular activity like arms legs flailing & doing a flip on the ground, falling down

[Heavincent]

Agreed Totally

Kobe is overrated in-game dunker. He is even worse "dunk contest" dunker.

Its the ESPN that made this cheap MJ immitator into all that.

I've never seen any Kobe dunk & went "wow".

If you look at all the kobe's "copied" one handed tomahawks, he does lot more flailing with arms & legs after dunk is just thru the rim. faaaking cheat.

how about creating in the "Air" a little bit Mr Copy Bryant just before the dunk.

He's really got no elevation & distance. Just a throw down. & does more extra curricular activity like arms legs flailing & doing a flip on the ground, falling down

We know this is just your alternate account pauk. It could not have been more blatantly obvious.

[OldSchoolBBall]

LOLLLL MJ's hands aren't 2-3 inches longer than Kobe's, that's absurd. Try an inch or so. MJ's hands are around 12" from palm base to finger tip. MJ's hands are like 2-3 inches bigger than someone who is like 6'0".

You ever seen the comparison pic between Kobe and MJ's hands? Jordan's hands are like 10-11" from bottom to tip of the middle finger. Kobe's can't possibly be more than 8" judging by the trouble he has palming the ball.

[Jacks3]

Kobe doesn't have any trouble palming the ball, you idiot. :facepalm

[catch24]

Kobe doesn't have any trouble palming the ball, you idiot. :facepalm

I think Kobe said in an interview not too long ago that he couldn't palm a basketball like a Jordan or Julius Erving. He can definitely still palm one, just not as effective as those two like he alluded to.

[andgar923]

Not sure if people missed the entire point of the comparison.

A. MJ while in flight pumps back the ball behind his head
B. MJ's distance
C. MJ's 'lean'
D. MJ's power

Now.... Kobe can and has done 'some' of these things, but not all of these things in one seamless moment.

With Kobe they've either been one or the other, but not (from what we've seen in this thread thus far) in unison.

And I don't think this is the best one handed tomahawk dunk btw, not sure if it's even MJ's best, but nonetheless.... point is proven.

[Shadeeq]

Kobe is a great dunker but I think MJ has got him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzzNa6Fzcr8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPRyG5bOOtY

[G-Funk]

Not sure if people missed the entire point of the comparison.

A. MJ while in flight pumps back the ball behind his head
B. MJ's distance
C. MJ's 'lean'
D. MJ's power

Now.... Kobe can and has done 'some' of these things, but not all of these things in one seamless moment.

With Kobe they've either been one or the other, but not (from what we've seen in this thread thus far) in unison.

And I don't think this is the best one handed tomahawk dunk btw, not sure if it's even MJ's best, but nonetheless.... point is proven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akMiX_FKCdQ

MJ while in flight pumps back the ball behind his head = To Kobe's
Kobe's Distance>MJ's distance
Kobe's Lean>MJ's 'lean'
Kobe's Power>MJ's power

[StarJordan]

^Kobe basically dunking uncontested so that is beaten by free throw line throwdown by jordan. Bigger distance. Greater poster.

Jordan can palm the ball > Kobe
Jordan can dunk leaners at > angle than Kobe
Jordan can break backboards > kobe

[L8k3r5]

Agenda is obvious :facepalm I've seen Kobe and Mj do impressive dunks in their own styles. I still can't see why fans on this site can't appreciate both equally.

[arkain]

We talking about Tomahawks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIP8eevfp3c

Game over!

[TAC602]

Agenda is obvious :facepalm I've seen Kobe and Mj do impressive dunks in their own styles. I still can't see why fans on this site can't appreciate both equally.

No Life.

[Batz]

MJ's one-handed double pump dunks were a thing of beauty. Here's a better one from the '92 pre-Olympics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=intjrEU7fmE&feature=related&t=1m32s). Replay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=intjrEU7fmE&feature=related&t=1m53s). I have never seen anyone even attempt it from that angle.
Am I the only one not finding this the least bit impressive? Man this thread sucks.


Agreed Totally

Kobe is overrated in-game dunker. He is even worse "dunk contest" dunker.

Its the ESPN that made this cheap MJ immitator into all that.

I've never seen any Kobe dunk & went "wow".

If you look at all the kobe's "copied" one handed tomahawks, he does lot more flailing with arms & legs after dunk is just thru the rim. faaaking cheat.

how about creating in the "Air" a little bit Mr Copy Bryant just before the dunk.

He's really got no elevation & distance. Just a throw down. & does more extra curricular activity like arms legs flailing & doing a flip on the ground, falling down
Sun light. Fresh Air. Ram your head into the wall. Good day.

[The-Legend-24]

OP is a dumbass.

:facepalm

[Batz]

OP is a dumbass.

:facepalm
Probably just lonely.

[Indian guy]

Am I the only one not finding this the least bit impressive?

What's not impressive about it? Try to find me any other player doing that dunk.

[KenneBell]

We talking about Tomahawks?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIP8eevfp3c

Game over!
Pretty much. :oldlol:

[Batz]

What's not impressive about it? Try to find me any other player doing that dunk.
Roam the thread.

[Indian guy]

Roam the thread.

I'm seeing regular tomahawks being posted. Not the near-double pump MJ does. There's a Kobe one eliteballer posted, but it sucks.

Also, nobody's saying the dunk compares to VC's, but that doesn't mean it still isn't impressive.

[andgar923]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akMiX_FKCdQ

MJ while in flight pumps back the ball behind his head = To Kobe's
Kobe's Distance>MJ's distance
Kobe's Lean>MJ's 'lean'
Kobe's Power>MJ's power

He's not leaning anywhere near MJ's lean, all he did was bring his legs back. MJ's entire body was damn near parallel to the ground. Distance was about the same, but MJ had much more height in his jump (as usual).

Till this day I don't know why Kobe fans keep bringing up that dunk. I don't see anything so spectacular about it to be honest. Nothing an above avg leaper couldn't do. Fact is, Kobe cannot and has never taken off from the same distance that MJ and others have, and he's never had the same height in his dunks that MJ and others have. He just isn't a great leaper like others. Yes he's had some great dunks, some ferocious dunks at that, but he isn't the leaper that MJ, VC and others are/were.

[Indian guy]

Jordan has made dunks with just as much extension as Kobe if not more, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Just not seeing this. Take this dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=905LFfxAcpo&feature=related&t=2m28s) by Kobe for instance, I just can't find any MJ dunk where he extends his arm back like that. He tended to be more straight-armed on his dunks. They weren't long enough.

[Batz]

I'm seeing regular tomahawks being posted. Not the near-double pump MJ does. There's a Kobe one eliteballer posted, but it sucks.

Also, nobody's saying the dunk compares to VC's, but that doesn't mean it still isn't impressive.
[Insert mocking statement][Insert clever mock of the foolish over-exaggeration][Finish off with facepalm].

#savingtime

[OldSchoolBBall]

Just not seeing this. Take this dunk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=905LFfxAcpo&feature=related&t=2m28s) by Kobe for instance, I just can't find any MJ dunk where he extends his arm back like that. He tended to be more straight-armed on his dunks. They weren't long enough.

You've got to be kidding me. :oldlol: Here, that was easy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUXJ8Q7ehY#t=50s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZX78ngoXGA#t=7s (from your own video, no less - you are SPMJ, right?)

Also, as big a Jordan fan as I am, count me among those who aren't seeing what's so spectacular about that MJ dunk you posted. It's nice, but not one of his best imo. Can you explain more clearly why you find it so impressive aside from saying that he did it from an odd angle (i.e., the baseline)? I mean, a dunk can be done from any angle - it doesn't make it inherently more difficult/impressive unless the angle taken adds to the difficulty somehow.


He's not leaning anywhere near MJ's lean, all he did was bring his legs back. MJ's entire body was damn near parallel to the ground. Distance was about the same, but MJ had much more height in his jump (as usual).

Till this day I don't know why Kobe fans keep bringing up that dunk. I don't see anything so spectacular about it to be honest. Nothing an above avg leaper couldn't do. Fact is, Kobe cannot and has never taken off from the same distance that MJ and others have, and he's never had the same height in his dunks that MJ and others have. He just isn't a great leaper like others. Yes he's had some great dunks, some ferocious dunks at that, but he isn't the leaper that MJ, VC and others are/were.

They keep bringing it up because it's incredibly impressive FOR KOBE, and impressive overall. But they're overrating it a ton. He takes off from the inner dotted line and diunks the ball with his NEAR HAND from the side of his body that is CLOSER to the basket. Jordan routinely took off from the dotted line and beyond and dubked it with his REAR HAND opposite the side of his body that was closest to the basket, meaning he had to get more air to complete the dunk since he still needed to maintain enough height to dunk it as his REAR HAND made it to the rim as opposed to his LEAD HAND.

[L8k3r5]

No Life.
Yet another troll...:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[TheLogo]

can someone get a video of this particular dunk.....this is an iconic picture that was floating around years ago...this was his signature dunk.

http://th170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Robenjam/NBA/KobeBryantWallpaperPotY.jpg

another shot of it.....

http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/iq/qx/xu/mahawkdunk.jpg

[andgar923]

You've got to be kidding me. :oldlol: Here, that was easy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUXJ8Q7ehY#t=50s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZX78ngoXGA#t=7s (from your own video, no less - you are SPMJ, right?)

Also, as big a Jordan fan as I am, count me among those who aren't seeing what's so spectacular about that MJ dunk you posted. It's nice, but not one of his best imo. Can you explain more clearly why you find it so impressive aside from saying that he did it from an odd angle (i.e., the baseline)? I mean, a dunk can be done from any angle - it doesn't make it inherently more difficult/impressive unless the angle taken adds to the difficulty somehow.



They keep bringing it up because it's incredibly impressive FOR KOBE, and impressive overall. But they're overrating it a ton. He takes off from the inner dotted line and diunks the ball with his NEAR HAND from the side of his body that is CLOSER to the basket. Jordan routinely took off from the dotted line and beyond and dubked it with his REAR HAND opposite the side of his body that was closest to the basket, meaning he had to get more air to complete the dunk since he still needed to maintain enough height to dunk it as his REAR HAND made it to the rim as opposed to his LEAD HAND.


In regards to extending the arm back...

MJ didn't have to do that as much, since he just rose over most of his defenders and could palm the ball much better than Kobe, thus he didn't need to extend his arm away from the defender.

[andgar923]

can someone get a video of this particular dunk.....this is an iconic picture that was floating around years ago...this was his signature dunk.



another shot of it.....



Iconic?

:confusedshrug:

Another shot of it? That's not the same pic dude.

[TheLogo]

Iconic?

:confusedshrug:

Another shot of it? That's not the same pic dude.

it's another shot of it...it's his Sig dunk.

[lefthook00]

You ever seen the comparison pic between Kobe and MJ's hands? Jordan's hands are like 10-11" from bottom to tip of the middle finger. Kobe's can't possibly be more than 8" judging by the trouble he has palming the ball.

My hand is just barely under 8" and 5'10". Kobe has to have bigger hands than me, I can only palm a dry ball and wave it around only a little bit, much less than what Kobe can do. I've heard MJ estimates up to 12.25" from palm base to tip of middle finger, which is absolutely bonkers if that's true.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/796/936/Michael-Jordan-and-Kobe-Bryant_display_image.jpg?1300462689
A comparison pic, Kobe's hand is a little further down than MJ's though.

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2195000/AlphaWolf-2195685_460_618.jpg
Arm length seems similar.

[OldSchoolBBall]

My hand is just barely under 8" and 5'10". Kobe has to have bigger hands than me, I can only palm a dry ball and wave it around only a little bit, much less than what Kobe can do. I've heard MJ estimates up to 12.25" from palm base to tip of middle finger, which is absolutely bonkers if that's true.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/796/936/Michael-Jordan-and-Kobe-Bryant_display_image.jpg?1300462689
A comparison pic, Kobe's hand is a little further down than MJ's though.

Arm length seems similar.

First off, that is possibly the worst pic ever to judge arm length. Secondly, if even you say that the "arm length looks similar," then Jordan has to be longer overall due to an extra 2" on each hand plus being broader across the shoulders/chest. That was my point.

[andgar923]

it's another shot of it...it's his Sig dunk.

Gotcha... my bad.

[lefthook00]

can someone get a video of this particular dunk.....this is an iconic picture that was floating around years ago...this was his signature dunk.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEQK2vGoDPc
Sh*tty quality though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yHwFrdFwzY
Actual game tape, @ 3:40 mark.

[lefthook00]

First off, that is possibly the worst pic ever to judge arm length. Secondly, if even you say that the "arm length looks similar," then Jordan has to be longer overall due to an extra 2" on each hand plus being broader across the shoulders/chest. That was my point.

Just using pics b/c I can't find official wingspan measurements.





And the c0cking back the arm thing has more to do with dunking style than length when you're talking about players that are similar size.

[Indian guy]

You've got to be kidding me. :oldlol: Here, that was easy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVUXJ8Q7ehY#t=50s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZX78ngoXGA#t=7s (from your own video, no less - you are SPMJ, right?)

Yes, I am SPMJ :D. I figured you'd post the 2nd dunk, since that's the only one I could find where he really extended the ball way back, but that's really about it. Can you find any others? If you go through the average Kobe mix on the other hand, you'll find plenty where he's really bringing the ball back. It adds a touch of authority/power to those dunks that a shorter-armed player can't afford. That's the only reason why quite a few view Kobe as the superior in-game dunker to MJ, IMO. It's not really about "variety".


Also, as big a Jordan fan as I am, count me among those who aren't seeing what's so spectacular about that MJ dunk you posted.

Not spectacular, just a very aesthetically pleasing dunk. I called it a thing of beauty in my original post. I thought it would appeal to everyone. Guess not.


I mean, a dunk can be done from any angle - it doesn't make it inherently more difficult/impressive unless the angle taken adds to the difficulty somehow.

Impressive in the sense that besides VC, you never see anyone getting fancy with their tomahawks from the base line. MJ's the only player you'll ever see or have seen do that dunk.

[TheLogo]

I think Jordan is too stiff.

I like the fluidity of guys like Kobe and VC.

[lefthook00]

Not gonna lie though, I think MJ is the most photogenic dunker of all time though. His dunk pics look f*cking epic.

http://wannadunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Michael-Jordan-Slam-Dunk.jpg

http://litecky111.wikispaces.com/file/view/jordan-gatorade-dunk-contest-ad-2.jpg

http://solecollector.com/media/u/images/MJ%20FT%20700.jpg

[gengiskhan]

can someone get a video of this particular dunk.....this is an iconic picture that was floating around years ago...this was his signature dunk.

http://th170.photobucket.com/albums/u248/Robenjam/NBA/KobeBryantWallpaperPotY.jpg

another shot of it.....

http://cdn.pimpmyspace.org/media/pms/c/iq/qx/xu/mahawkdunk.jpg

Iconic? :roll:

What iconic?:roll:

dont you see a stiff upper body & ugly folding of the legs. Its down right disguisting. :facepalm

[gengiskhan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akMiX_FKCdQ

MJ while in flight pumps back the ball behind his head = To Kobe's
Kobe's Distance>MJ's distance
Kobe's Lean>MJ's 'lean'
Kobe's Power>MJ's power

Its the crap like this I'm talking about.

Illusion vs Reality

A good dunk vs Great dunk

Look very closely at this kobe dunk.

Fact 1: Before he takes off, he alreay got full momentum going forward, he is lunging forward to dunk with full stretch.

Fact 2: Its more of a stretch dunk than a flight dunk MJ & VC does.

Fact 3: notice the sudden drop landing to the ground as kobe fails to even pass the rim thus giving an illusion of real distance covered.

A good dunk but really nothing special

Kobe covered the distance with stretch & lunging forward rather than Flight & glyde is not even half of what MJ covers regularly on tomohawk dunks.


compare to this MJ dunk @ 6:33

MJ leaner at 6:33 mark (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R379PfMzlM&playnext=1&list=PL77D5024F12C9B9AD)

Its full flight. notice he is passing the rim before dunking. He lands way pass the rim. VC does that too.

MJ distance>>>>>>Kobe ever dreamed of
MJ Flight>>>>>>>Kobe ever dreamed of
MJ Lean>>>>>>>>Kobe ever dreamed of
MJ dunks>>>>>>Kobe dunks

Kobe's are decent dunks. MJ's are easily all time great dunks. Only VC has a chance of beating MJ dunks in direct comparison.

[eliteballer]

You can only compare one handed dunks because thats 99% of Jordans dunks. Anyway, I've had enough of this nonsense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akMiX_FKCdQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iep2vzxFj5E&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQoM4UW_nAM

:pimp:

[gengiskhan]

I think Kobe is too stiff.

I like the fluidity of guys like MJ and VC.

Corrected.

MJ has the most fluid dunker in the history of the game along with VC & Dr. J

Its Kobe & Lebron who has the stiffness in their dunk. specially Kobe, Legs flailing, Arms flailing during dunk. Kobe's Back is also overstretched in his tomohawk dunks he tries so hard to copy off MJ making it look ugly.

[gengiskhan]

You can only compare one handed dunks because thats 99% of Jordans dunks. Anyway, I've had enough of this nonsense:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akMiX_FKCdQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iep2vzxFj5E&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQoM4UW_nAM

:pimp:

First one is only good dunk. Kobe had some flight but mosly stretch & lunging forward. same old kobe stiffness.

2nd dunk is just ugly as hell. same old playground dunk. seen it thousand times.

[Vienceslav]

http://www.duke.edu/web/pfs/lessons/grade4math/math%204th/Goal%202/Michael%20Jordans%20Hand.jpg
It

[gengiskhan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf81yM2qmhs

^ 10x more impressive

A crap dunk over 6'0" canadian white boy is better than the real deal. :roll: :roll:

Kobe'tards are full retards.

[OldSchoolBBall]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iep2vzxFj5E&feature=related


How is that any better than this one, where MJ takes off from further out and gets more air and stuff it with more authority?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_xbtK6DeGo#t=2m58s

The other two dunks you posted are nice, but nothing Jordan didn't do regularly. To reiterate my statement regarding the first one (which also applies to the third link you posted since Kobe does the same thing there):


They keep bringing it up because it's incredibly impressive FOR KOBE, and impressive overall. But they're overrating it a ton. He takes off from the inner dotted line and diunks the ball with his NEAR HAND from the side of his body that is CLOSER to the basket. Jordan routinely took off from the dotted line and beyond and dunked it with his REAR HAND opposite the side of his body that was closest to the basket, meaning he had to get more air to complete the dunk since he still needed to maintain enough height to dunk it as his REAR HAND made it to the rim as opposed to his LEAD HAND.

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpWPMy2ySy0

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPtc3vKE9W4

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cr3SUB1-PI

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKb72yyyeI&t=3m25s

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKb72yyyeI&t=5m20s

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UwucT9Vnsk&t=1m3s

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UwucT9Vnsk&t=2m25s

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFgGg877sjs&t=2m58s

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIK0haszK0o

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j72HJtR0euA

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfoHzbqJxbw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BJIj00rSs

[eliteballer]

Ya'll know where the f*ck we at :pimp:

[OldSchoolBBall]

Nice spamming. :oldlol: Why didn't you put those in one or two posts?

[gengiskhan]

Not gonna lie though, I think MJ is the most photogenic dunker of all time though. His dunk pics look f*cking epic.

http://wannadunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Michael-Jordan-Slam-Dunk.jpg

http://litecky111.wikispaces.com/file/view/jordan-gatorade-dunk-contest-ad-2.jpg

http://solecollector.com/media/u/images/MJ%20FT%20700.jpg

this.

[gengiskhan]

^Kobe basically dunking uncontested so that is beaten by free throw line throwdown by jordan. Bigger distance. Greater poster.

Jordan can palm the ball > Kobe
Jordan can dunk leaners at > angle than Kobe
Jordan can break backboards > kobe

this

[Shadeeq]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxN1EFZNZBc

[KingMichael23]

^Kobe basically dunking uncontested so that is beaten by free throw line throwdown by jordan. Bigger distance. Greater poster.

Jordan can palm the ball > Kobe
Jordan can dunk leaners at > angle than Kobe
Jordan can break backboards > kobe
Vince Carter couldn't even break the backboard. How the hell can any one do that with the new rims invented?

[Leviathon1121]

Damn, MJ stans are pathetic... :facepalm

What StanS?

It is one guy who despite us telling him to shutup, continues making useless threads.

Not the same as having Jacks3, Hulk, Alphawolf, Fatal, Griffmoney, etc, etc, etc... all making hate threads or trolling everything Jordan/Kobe related.

Yah darn those Jordan stans.

[Heat1011]

Na Kobe can't evern freaking dream bout a dunk like dat
After 15 years, everyone can see that Kobe is clearly an inferior MJ
Doranku along with other people on this board are typical Kobetards, pretty much anyone with a disney/nick chick as their profile picc

[TheLogo]

Na Kobe can't evern freaking dream bout a dunk like dat
After 15 years, everyone can see that Kobe is clearly an inferior MJ
Doranku along with other people on this board are typical Kobetards, pretty much anyone with a disney/nick chick as their profile picc

Kobe is better than MJ.

We saw what a young Kobe did to MJ, imagine the ownage and how Kobe would shit on Jordan in his prime.

[LALakerFan4Life]

Kobe is better than MJ.

We saw what a young Kobe did to MJ, imagine the ownage and how Kobe would shit on Jordan in his prime.
Michael Jordan > Kobe Bryant.

[gengiskhan]

Na Kobe can't evern freaking dream bout a dunk like dat
After 15 years, everyone can see that Kobe is clearly an inferior MJ
Doranku along with other people on this board are typical Kobetards, pretty much anyone with a disney/nick chick as their profile picc

This.

Kobe is clearly an inferior athlete player to MJ.

Kobe's dunks lacks artistry & fluidity & creativity.

well said Braaah, faaak all the gay kobe'tards.

Kobe is like watered down poor man's gay version of MJ.

[lefthook00]

This.

Kobe is clearly an inferior athlete player to MJ.

Kobe's dunks lacks artistry & fluidity & creativity.

well said Braaah, faaak all the gay kobe'tards.

Kobe is like watered down poor man's gay version of MJ.

lol

[Jacks3]

Kobe>Jordan.

[Jacks3]

Kobe is better than MJ.

We saw what a young Kobe did to MJ, imagine the ownage and how Kobe would shit on Jordan in his prime.
Yup. Very true. He'd probably drop 80 on his ass.

[Nevaeh]

Yup. Very true. He'd probably drop 80 on his ass.

Kobe was only dropping Big Points after the games were already decided, whether it was the Bulls winning, or the Lakers. Besides, Kobe wasn't even a Starter during the 90s, so where was the "80 points" gonna come from? :oldlol:
"

Bu, Bu but.. The 90s were watered down so that anyone could become a Superstar ( which is true, seeing as how Kobe was an "All-Star" dropping a whole 15ppg).

[Jacks3]

I remember back when Kobe dropped 55 on MJ.

More like 75-80 in his prime.

[catch24]

Besides, Kobe wasn't even a Starter during the 90s

Bu, Bu but.. The 90s were watered down so that anyone to become a Superstar ( which is true, seeing as how Kobe was an "All-Star" dropping a whole 15ppg).

Kobe was too busy getting Eddie Jones his gatorade :lol

[TheLogo]

Bu, Bu but.. The 90s were watered down so that anyone could become a Superstar ( which is true, seeing as how Kobe was an "All-Star" dropping a whole 15ppg).

exactly.

I guess this watered down 90's league only made MJ that much overrated.

that's what I have been saying the whole time.

[Nevaeh]

exactly.

I guess this watered down 90's league only made MJ that much overrated.

that's what I have been saying the whole time.


So why wasn't Kobe "80 Points" Bryant a starter back then? The league was already weak, yet he still couldn't start? Nice attempt to flip the point, yet still manage to make Kobe look like a chump. :oldlol:

[BlackJoker23]

exactly.

I guess this watered down 90's league only made MJ that much overrated.

that's what I have been saying the whole time.
goat troll :bowdown:

[TheLogo]

So why wasn't Kobe "80 Points" Bryant a starter back then? The league was already weak, yet he still couldn't start? Nice attempt to flip the point, yet still manage to make Kobe look like a chump. :oldlol:

you don't start teenagers who are fresh from their prom.

we saw what he did to MJ when given the chance.

[Vertical-24]

Kobe is better than MJ.

We saw what a young Kobe did to MJ, imagine the ownage and how Kobe would shit on Jordan in his prime.

Wouldve been the most epic game of all time. But Kobe shitting on MJ ? Not a chance, if anything, it could possibly be back-and-forth. Frobe showed no fear against the GOAT and he played him rather well (especially for an extremely young, not very experienced guard) but MJ schooled him quite a bit (look at the 98 All-Star).

MJ >> Kobe

Kobe (soon to be GOAT Jr.) >> Anyone in the League

[DMV2]

Not gonna lie though, I think MJ is the most photogenic dunker of all time though. His dunk pics look f*cking epic.

http://wannadunk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Michael-Jordan-Slam-Dunk.jpg

http://litecky111.wikispaces.com/file/view/jordan-gatorade-dunk-contest-ad-2.jpg

http://solecollector.com/media/u/images/MJ%20FT%20700.jpg
His dunks were like the Mona Lisa. :bowdown: The Greatest Baller Ever!!!!

[TheLogo]

Don't you think it's gayish to be wearing a gold chain with a basketball uniform.

[snipes12]

mj's dunks has grace,fluid and smoothness ... kobe is too jerky in his dunk flanks his legs and goes everywhere. his like an octopus waving his tentacles when he dunks

[Shadeeq]

exactly.

I guess this watered down 90's league only made MJ that much overrated.

that's what I have been saying the whole time.

I disagree. MJ had his best finals series against Magics Lakers and his playoffs high against Birds Celtics. Kobes best game was against the Raptors.

[gengiskhan]

I disagree. MJ had his best finals series against Magics Lakers and his playoffs high against Birds Celtics. Kobes best game was against the Raptors.

Agreed.

That Raptors were high school defense team. Comparing Raptors defense that wasn't even at NCAA or Pro level to a Playoff D MJ scored against is a joke.