How Did Barkley Manage to Have Such a High 2-Point FG% and Over 20 PPG?

[Round Mound]

As 4th Option Focal "Go To Go Guy" Scorer and Not a 100% Starter (age 21)

1984-85: 54.56% 2-Point FG% /13.96 PPG/9.47 2-Point FGA PG Only(28.6 MPG)

As 2nd Option Focal "Go To Go Guy" Scorer (age 22)

1985-86: 59.83% 2-Point FG% /19.40 PPG/12.08 2-Point FGA PG Only

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As 1st Option Focal "Go to Go Guy" Scorer (ages 23 to 32)

1986-87: 64.34% 2-Point FG%/22.07 PPG/12.25 2-Point FGA PG Only

1987-88: 62.97% 2-Point FG%/26.66 PPG/14.08 2-Point FGA PG Only

1988-89: 63.58% 2-Point FG/24.46 PPG/13.24 2-Point FGA PG Only

1989-90: 63.22% 2-Point FG%/24.42 PPG/13.73 2-Point FGA PG Only

1990-91: 61.36% 2-Point FG%/25.63 PPG/15.10 2-Point FGA PG Only

1991-92: 59.66% 2-Point FG%/21.79 PPG/13.18 2-Point FGA PG Only

1992-93: 56.14% 2-Point FG%/22.93 PPG/15.21 2-Point FGA PG Only

1993-94: 54.15% 2-Point FG%/19.35 PPG/13.35 2-Point FGA PG Only

1994-95: 52.06% 2-Point FG%/19.69 PPG/13.56 2-Point FGA PG Only

1995-96: 53.90% 2-Point FG%/21.15 PPG/13.87 2-Point FGA PG Only

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As 2nd-3rd Option Focal "Go to Go Guy" Scorer (age 33)

1996-97: 56.88% 2-Point FG%/15.89 PPG/15.3 2-Point FGA PG Only

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As 4th Option Focal "Go To Go Guy" Scorer (age 34)

1997-98: 51.97% 2-Point FG%/14.4 PPG/9.702-Point FGA PG Only

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As 2nd Option Focal "Go To Go Guy" Scorer (age 35)

1998-99: 49.48% 2-Point FG%/15.81 PPG/11.36 2-Point FGA PG Only

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As 3rd Option Focal "Go To Go Guy" Scorer (age 36)

1999-2000: 50.48% 2-Point FG%/13.55 PPG/9.80 2-Point FGA PG Only

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CAREER SEASON: 21.6 PPG at 58.13% Two-Point FG% on 12.9 Two-Point FGAs Taken Only

CAREER PLAY-OFFS: 22.5 PPG at 55.13% Two-Point FG% on 14.5 Two-Point FGAs Taken Only

[D.J.]

Barkley was without a doubt the most offensively efficient perimeter player ever. His only true weakness was he was a lazy mother f*cker at the other end of the floor. Also add that he had such incompetent teammates. Chuck even mentioned this when talking about Charles Shackleford.

[kaiiu]

A combination of Melo meets Z. Randolph

[BankShot]

A combination of Melo meets Z. Randolph

Is this an insult, a compliment, both, or neither????? :confusedshrug:

[kaiiu]

Is this an insult, a compliment, both, or neither????? :confusedshrug:
Melo scoring skills(not as good a shooter) and lazy attitude. Zachs rebounding and inside game. Compliment

[Bigsmoke]

guarding someone who's fat isnt easy... at least to me. Its like when he posts you up, you might think he will land right on top of you or somthing.

[Big#50]

Because he would drive on everyone and dunk on their ass. Everyone feared his post game and his off the dribble game. He would get a lot of open jump shots because of it.

[OmniStrife]

http://morelier.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Charles-Barkley.jpg

Goddamn, Barkley was such a bad-ass mother****er!
He was the reason I became a Suns fan when I was 5 years old.

It's sad that he didn't get to win his rings.
Even sadder to see another Suns MVP and legend go down the same road.

Damn you Dynasties of the 90s and 00s (But especially the Spurs, **** YOU) :mad:

[Round Mound]

:rockon: :cheers: :applause: :bowdown:

[Rnbizzle]

Melo scoring skills(not as good a shooter) and lazy attitude. Zachs rebounding and inside game. Compliment
I like this comparison.

[jlauber]

Barkley was truly amazing. A great rebounder, a great scorer, and a highly efficient shooter, with excellent range.

Adrian Dantley was another unstoppable offensive player. FOUR 30+ ppg seasons on .559 to .580 shooting.

Both Barkley and Dantley were around 6-5 too.

[Round Mound]

Barkley was truly amazing. A great rebounder, a great scorer, and a highly efficient shooter, with excellent range.

Adrian Dantley was another unstoppable offensive player. FOUR 30+ ppg seasons on .559 to .580 shooting.

Both Barkley and Dantley were around 6-5 too.

Chuck was 6`4 3/4 so 6`5 in total.

He shot like Kareem, Wilt and McHale

Even Higher FG% as a Focal Scorer recieving the Most Double Teams of his Era

We won`t see a Player like that Again

:bowdown:

[RRR3]

I think it's more amazing that he got so many ****ing rebounds being only 6'5 or so.

[MastahX]

round u are such a homer - you post something about barkley 3 times a day. :oldlol:

[Saintsfan1992]

I think it's more amazing that he got so many ****ing rebounds being only 6'5 or so.

This

[SuperPippen]

I think it's more amazing that he got so many ****ing rebounds being only 6'5 or so.

Agreed. One of the reasons I love watching Barkley.

I just love watching great rebounders go to work.

[Round Mound]

I am not a homer im here to teach you how good charles barkley was before injuries. A way better player than Kobe and everyone in this NBA today with the exclusion of maybe Lebron James: untill he develops a decent post game

[OldSchoolBBall]

Barkley was such a dynamic player in his prime. he could do everything on offense at a high level (score inside or outside, handle the ball very well, pass great etc.). He was very creative, too. And tenacious.

[Jacks3]

[B]I am not a homer im here to teach you how good charles barkley was before injuries. A way better player than Kobe
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[D-Wade316]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Kobe stans can't accept facts.

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[bdreason]

I'm watching Barkley vs. Jordan right now. 1990 Eastern Conference semi-Finals.




And I would take prime Barkley over prime Kobe.

[OldSchoolBBall]

I'm watching Barkley vs. Jordan right now. 1990 Eastern Conference semi-Finals.




And I would take prime Barkley over prime Kobe.

It's definitely arguable either way when discussing impact prime vs. prime between Kobe and Barkley.

[Jacks3]

Not really. Barkley was a horrific defender at a extremely important defensive position and wasn't as dominant offensively as his volume numbers suggest. Prime Kobe is definitely better.

[RRR3]

Not really. Barkley was a horrific defender at a extremely important defensive position and wasn't as dominant offensively as his volume numbers suggest. Prime Kobe is definitely better.
Volume? Are you retarded? Barkley was awesomely efficient

[Jacks3]

By volume I meant his raw stats. Idiot. :facepalm

[N0Skillz]

DAMN he must have won 3 or 4 championships right?

[RRR3]

DAMN he must have won 3 or 4 championships right?
:violin:

[Dragonyeuw]

I think it's more amazing that he got so many ****ing rebounds being only 6'5 or so.

Pure hustle, desire and an understanding of how the ball comes off the rim and getting to the position before your opponent. Rodman had the same ability... those guys actually made rebounding fun to watch and emulate.

[MastahX]

Round - do you work for Barkley's PR department? I can CTRL+F the main board page and type in "round" and every post started by you is about Barkley.

It's all good, I just find it amusing is all.

[PTB Fan]

Efficiency brother...

Charles Barkley was one of the most efficient players of all time and certainly, one of the best finishers ever. He maintained high field goal percentage all the time.

Also, Bill Walton for numerous years said that Barley was leading the league in two point percentage...and he was right

[OldSchoolBBall]

Not really. Barkley was a horrific defender at a extremely important defensive position and wasn't as dominant offensively as his volume numbers suggest. Prime Kobe is definitely better.

ORtg, Barkley '87-'93:

119
126
127
128
123
119
120

And this spans bad teams and good ones. For comparison, Kobe has never posted an ORtg over 115. Food for thought.

[D.J.]

Prime Charles Barkley was the best player in the world not named Michael Jordan. That's how good he was. You can argue his laziness on D all you want, but there's no denying how talented, skilled, and tenacious he was.

[Round Mound]

ORtg, Barkley '87-'93:

119
126
127
128
123
119
120

And this spans bad teams and good ones. For comparison, Kobe has never posted an ORtg over 115. Food for thought.

:applause:

[Jacks3]

ORtg, Barkley '87-'93:

119
126
127
128
123
119
120

And this spans bad teams and good ones. For comparison, Kobe has never posted an ORtg over 115. Food for thought.
Yeah, and Stocton posted better ORTG's than Bryant too. Guess he's better as well. :roll:

[Round Mound]

Yeah, and Stocton posted better ORTG's than Bryant too. Guess he's better as well. :roll:

Yes he is because he can Shoot Efficently over 50% FG on 14-17 PPG and Create 11-14 APG.

So as an Offensive Player he is Better.

[Jacks3]

:roll:

[knickswin]

A combination of Melo meets Z. Randolph

yeah I've always though that part of the reason Barkley likes Zbo so much is they are kind of similar players. I always thought of Randolph as a poor man's Barkley.

[Round Mound]

:applause:

[chips93]

Pure hustle, desire and an understanding of how the ball comes off the rim and getting to the position before your opponent. Rodman had the same ability... those guys actually made rebounding fun to watch and emulate.


this

as well as explosive and quick hops plenty of guys can get up there, but none can get off of the floor as quick as barkley, without a run up, or any preparation.

also a big wide frame is as useful is better for rebounding than a long slender one. think of the top rebounders in the league, love, z-bo, griffin humphries, none of these guys are very tall, but all very wide and strong.

[Round Mound]

Charles Barkley = Most Underrated Player of All Time

[rodman91]

Despite these great stats, he was still better on court than it looks on papers.

He was that good.

[ballerz]

LOL at round mound saying he is not a homer. everything you post is about barkley and you turn topics that weren't even about him about barkley

[Big#50]

Can you mother****ers stop quoting Kobe Stans????? I have them on ignore so I wont read their bullshit, and you motha****kas can't stop being trolled by them.
Charles a mismatch in those days. Too strong for small forwards and too fast for power forwards. Young kids never saw him play. Kobe Stans talk out of their ass like they saw him play D. LoL Dude was a good shot blocker for his size. Sure he stopped giving a **** about D. I can name a lot of players that did that.

[Round Mound]

Despite these great stats, he was still better on court than it looks on papers.

He was that good.

Amen :applause:

To the Other Dude: I am teaching many youngsters about the real Barkley before injuries so STFUP don`t like my Threds then don`t read em.

2-Point FG% is the Most Important Offensive Stat for PFs

[Round Mound]

Can you mother****ers stop quoting Kobe Stans????? I have them on ignore so I wont read their bullshit, and you motha****kas can't stop being trolled by them.
Charles a mismatch in those days. Too strong for small forwards and too fast for power forwards. Young kids never saw him play. Kobe Stans talk out of their ass like they saw him play D. LoL Dude was a good shot blocker for his size. Sure he stopped giving a **** about D. I can name a lot of players that did that.

:applause: The thread is about Barkley and the Kobe (A Top 20 Player) Stans have to get him in the mix not only comparing him to Jordan but not realizing that Kobe wasn`t even better than Karl Malone (A Top 15-20 Player)

[Jacks3]

same guy who thinks stockton is a better offensive player than bryant. lolz. get your eyes off the stat-sheet and watch the game son.

[Round Mound]

same guy who thinks stockton is a better offensive player than bryant. lolz. get your eyes off the stat-sheet and watch the game son.

:roll: :facepalm :hammerhead: :blah

He is a Better Offensively Player dummy. When you talk about Offense its not just about Scoring but Scoring EFFICENTLY and CREATING FOR OTHERS.

Stockton was a legit 14-17 PPG and over 50% FG Player but Also Could Create 11-14 APG for every prime year.

So yes he is a Better Offensive Player and was a Top Defensive Guard appearing in the Top 10 in Defensive Rating, unlike Kobe who gets hyped to be a Great Defender has Never Appeared in the Top 10 in Defensive Rating.

Bryant is the Better Total Player but not a Better Offensive Player

[Jacks3]

i could write a long, detailed post about why bryant was considerably better offensively, but why bother? it'll just sail over your head. even a hater like loco wouldn't take stockton over bryant offensively.

:facepalm

[NumberSix]

That's turrible

[NumberSix]

i could write a long, detailed post about why bryant was considerably better offensively, but why bother? it'll just sail over your head. even a hater like loco wouldn't take stockton over bryant offensively.

:facepalm
Seriously though, Stockton has a career average of 13.1 PPG, 10.5 APG, .6 Off-RPG. Kobe has a career average of 25.3, 4.7 APG, 1.2 Off-RPG.

In Stockton prime years of production, he averaged just over 17 PPG and over 14 APG. It's not like he was some kind of chump or something. I mean, the guy IS the all time leader in both assists and steals.

Considering the offensive responsibilities of the PG position, it's at least reasonable to debate that Stockton was more impactful on offense than Kobe. You act like it's a ridiculous comparison. It's not. Kobe is obviously the better scorer. Nobody would argue that, but that's just one factor of offense.

[Round Mound]

Seriously though, Stockton has a career average of 13.1 PPG, 10.5 APG, .6 Off-RPG. Kobe has a career average of 25.3, 4.7 APG, 1.2 Off-RPG.

In Stockton prime years of production, he averaged just over 17 PPG and over 14 APG. It's not like he was some kind of chump or something. I mean, the guy IS the all time leader in both assists and steals.

Considering the offensive responsibilities of the PG position, it's at least reasonable to debate that Stockton was more impactful on offense than Kobe. You act like it's a ridiculous comparison. It's not. Kobe is obviously the better scorer. Nobody would argue that, but that's just one factor of offense.

:applause:

[Jacks3]

Considering the offensive responsibilities of the PG position, it's at least reasonable to debate that Stockton was more impactful on offense than Kobe. You act like it's a ridiculous comparison. It's not. Kobe is obviously the better scorer.
yeah,it is ridiculous. kobe is much more highly regarded than stockton and it's mostly because of the offense NOT any defensive gap.

[RRR3]

yeah,it is ridiculous. kobe is much more highly regarded than stockton and it's mostly because of the offense NOT any defensive gap.
While I agree that Kobe>Stockton, you're undermining how great Stockton was. His role was never that of a scorer, although he was capable of scoring more than he did kind of like Steve Nash (although Stockton isn't the shooter Nash is, but few people are)

[Jacks3]

stockton's biggest problem was that he wasn't capable of doing more. dude was never capable of taking over games with his scoring, or consistently creating his own shot, he was extremely limited. he was ridiculously efficient because he was a great shooter, didn't force anything, took only good shots...but he never forced the issue and that cost the jazz in a bunch of series. he's not like nash at all. nash has averaged 30+ PPG for entire series, he's dropped 48 pts in playoff games, he's taken over games with his scoring and that's why nash is easily superior...and so is bryant. the differnce in their scoring ability is even bigger than what the gap between their ppg suggests.

[GiveItToBurrito]

I think it's more amazing that he got so many ****ing rebounds being only 6'5 or so.

This, and it's related to the scoring and percentages, too. Those offensive rebounds led to a lot of putbacks. Getting a ton of boards at 6'5 and even doing it into his 30s when his athleticism and health were declining was incredible.

[Round Mound]

:applause: Efficiency

[Round Mound]

This, and it's related to the scoring and percentages, too. Those offensive rebounds led to a lot of putbacks. Getting a ton of boards at 6'5 and even doing it into his 30s when his athleticism and health were declining was incredible.

To Dominate the 2-Point Region what did Barkley do Best?

Post Up?
Mid Range?
1 on 1 Missmatch?

I guess all of these greatly but one must have been the most important, Still Dunno which

[Round Mound]

Would be nice if some Sir Charles fans to answer the last question :pimp:

[Round Mound]

Would be nice if some Sir Charles fans to answer the last question :pimp:

haters :facepalm :rockon: :pimp:

[tommy3]

Amen :applause:

To the Other Dude: I am teaching many youngsters about the real Barkley before injuries so STFUP don`t like my Threds then don`t read em.

2-Point FG% is the Most Important Offensive Stat for PFs
Youngsters? You said you were 5 when Barkley was in his prime :facepalm

[Round Mound]

Youngsters? You said you were 5 when Barkley was in his prime :facepalm

:facepalm

[eliteballer]

Offensive rebounding for easy putbacks

[Round Mound]

Offensive rebounding for easy putbacks

So now its easy to Offensive Rebound? :facepalm

Offensive Rebounding Probably the Most Difficult Skill to develop.

Barkley`S High 2-Point FG on over 20 PPG with few attempts shows why he is THE MOST SKILLED PF OF ALL TIME BY A LARGE MARGIN, A LARGE MARGIN

[ZenMaster]

Because he understood that the most underrated ability in basketball is to get easy baskets instead of forcing the hard ones.

[Round Mound]

Because he understood that the most underrated ability in basketball is to get easy baskets instead of forcing the hard ones.

Barkley`s baskets where unlike Karl Malone`s who was mostly a catch and finish on a break type player early in his career.

The truth is Barkley had one of the Most Monster Mid Range, Face Up and Post Games Ever...He was Doubled Sometimes in the Mid Range Region.

[jacobgoindum]

this fool thinks Barkley is better than Kobe, Duncan, and Russell
:roll:

[DuMa]

it always amazed me how short he was he was able to finish aroudn the basket nearly every time. sure it was his wingspan that helped him but it was his large ass and midsection that helped him create space to avoid the shotblock. so being shaped like a fat man and being athletic at the same time sure did wonders for sir charles.

[The_Yearning]

this fool thinks Barkley is better than Kobe, Duncan, and Russell
:roll:

Definitely better than Russel... but then again, so are a lot of people.

[rodman91]

this fool thinks Barkley is better than Kobe, Duncan, and Russell
:roll:

Not that foolish if you count era's,teammates,opponents. But as career Russell>Duncan>Kobe>Barkley.

[Round Mound]

Is there Another Player in the Last 25 Years Other than Shaq...To Have as High Two-Point FG on over 20 PPG but as the 1st Option? (1st Option = Most Doubled)

:bowdown: