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knickballer
09-01-2011, 04:00 PM
These subjects always interested me. I'm trying to lucid dream but it's hard and I don't really make an effort at it(they say you need to write down all your dreams daily). I just think it's fascinating..

I almost had a sleep paralysis experience last year. It's basically you become awake while sleeping(sounds weird) and you have no control over your body and can't scream/or do anything(basically paralyzed) Basically mine was a short one where I realized I couldn't move or yell and felt my body just like drift away, I basically wiggled myself awake. I've read other people's expirences and others have expirenced demonic hallucinations, voices whispering to them, having a monkey sit on their chest(wtf), basically scary shit.


Any experiences with this stuff ish?

code green
09-01-2011, 04:01 PM
There was a thread about this about a year ago, i'll try to find it for you.

Got it: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=191976

Bladers
09-01-2011, 04:03 PM
"But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way."

(Matthew 13:25)

Bladers
09-01-2011, 04:07 PM
If you really want to understand what sleep paralysis is and what happens.

Then here is a scientific documentary about Sleep paralysis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPMUz8RAjks

ThaSwagg3r
09-01-2011, 04:22 PM
It is scary dealing with sleep paralysis but I never had such scary moments happen to me. People explain all these stories where they felt like they are being choked, beaten, etc. but I never dealt with it which is why I am always scared when I deal with sleep paralysis because I am afraid it might happen to me sooner or later.

I had a mini sleep paralysis yesterday and during the time I was actually thinking about possibly the "shadow man" or whatever which made me scared and made me want to wake up and get up ASAP.

If you want to experience it, sleep on your back and if you want to avoid don't sleep on your back. Of course yesterday when I dealt with it I didn't sleep on my back.....

alwaysunny
09-01-2011, 04:34 PM
I had one sleep paralysis when I was little. I kept falling from a skyscraper over and over again. Once I fell and hit the ground, before I realize it I found myself on top of the building again, and repeat the process.

Gives me chills now that I think about it. Haven't had one since though.

knickballer
09-01-2011, 04:37 PM
I had one sleep paralysis when I was little. I kept falling from a skyscraper over and over again. Once I fell and hit the ground, before I realize it I found myself on top of the building again, and repeat the process.

Gives me chills now that I think about it. Haven't had one since though.


That sounds more like a nightmare tbh.. It doesn't sound like a sleep paralysis

Dasher
09-01-2011, 04:37 PM
I have bouts of Sleep Paralysis for weeks at a time. I don't freak out anymore, as I have been dealing with it for more than a decade.

Meticode
09-01-2011, 04:39 PM
I get it once every year or so.

It's pretty freaky. I'm awake, and aware, but I cannot open my eyes or move my body. You get a panic feeling and you breath heavily until you just jerk awake. At least that's how it is for me.

Scholar
09-01-2011, 04:41 PM
Sleep paralysis is so terrifying. I used to experience it all the time from high school until late last year.
One time, I fell asleep on my cousin's living room floor & had a crazy ass hallucination where the girl from the Grudge was underneath the couch I was laying by & started reaching for me. I could FEEL her fingers grabbing at my face. I woke up screaming like a little kid, but I swear I was awake the entire time!
I recall back in 2008, I had a demonic experience where a car started in the distance. I knew something weird was happening because I couldn't move whatsoever. The car sounded like it was coming toward my house & for several minutes, I could hear tires screeching as the car made turns into my neighborhood. Then my wall broke from a fukkin car driving through it, but there wasn't anyone in the car... I was so scared! I just laid on my bed, trying to scream but nothing was happening.

Godzuki
09-01-2011, 04:44 PM
i had it once and it was the scariest moment of my life. it was worse i was living alone in a 2 BR townhouse where i was freaked out for 2 days and didn't sleep afraid to go anywhere thinking the place was haunted. the only time i really thought i saw 100% proof of the super natural, and ii'm still not sure i buy the whole sleep paralysis thing since i know what i saw, and my mind doesn't play tricks on me like that. altho i was shocked to see a actual testimonial on Wiki mirroring exactly what happened, but even still its just hard to believe it was all in my head. i don't tell people about it since they think you're nutty, and most people have no idea what sleep paralysis is defined as(not just being paralyzed when you're sleeping).

alwaysunny
09-01-2011, 04:48 PM
That sounds more like a nightmare tbh.. It doesn't sound like a sleep paralysis

Nah I remember it vividly. I wasn't even lying down. I was sitting getting ready for bed, so I wasn't even sleeping at the time. All of sudden I couldn't move my body or call my mom for help, then started experiencing these things.

What makes you think it was just a normal nightmare? Do sleep paralysis only have certain type of hallucinations?

alwaysunny
09-01-2011, 04:50 PM
Woah now that I think about it..it's called SLEEP paralysis for a reason. I'm sure when it happened to me I wasn't sleeping. Is this even possible?

Godzuki
09-01-2011, 04:58 PM
Woah now that I think about it..it's called SLEEP paralysis for a reason. I'm sure when it happened to me I wasn't sleeping. Is this even possible?


same with me, and i'd swear by it. since i pinched myself multiples of times afterward, and there was no transition to waking up from a sleep whatsoever, and even then i didn't sleep for 2 days, went straight to work that morning almost glad to leave the house all freaked out...

Bladers
09-01-2011, 05:14 PM
This happened to me for about acouple of days when I was around 12.

The same old lady in that documentary by BBC would come to my bed and harass me. I finally got tired of it and said, How can I be a christian and believe in a God and have demons harass me? It didn't make sense.

So one day, I got fed up and wanted to confront her. So I did what I knew, I got prayed up and read instances in the bible where Jesus was took authority over demons. When the night came, I waited and waited for her. Waking and fallen back asleep every 20 minutes looking around to see if she's was there yet.

She usually comes around 3am and what do you know? right on queue the SP began. I awoke and tried to struggle out, but was frozen, can't talk, can't move, and there she was.

So I knew it began. I said to myself, "Good." I calmed myself and briefed myself of the plan, "remember what the plan was, remember what Jesus said, remember you have authority, you can do this, concentrate, do not fear, take authority."

So there she was. hagged old lady Smiling and laughing. By that time I was calm but determined, ready for her to make her move. Right then, she stretched out her hands to grab me by the throat. I reached out and took hold of it and calmly said to her, "If you come back again, I will KILL you!"

Her facial expression was that of shock and immediately I awoke and she has never come back.

You see, demons are empowered by fear and they manifest themselves as personalities to few they decide to.

She was shocked that I was able to break free and move and talk, that i exerted authority over her authority. So Remember when it happens, don't fight it, don't struggle.

The lady on the video said that she "was so tired of fighting, every night you know when you go to bed, its gonna be another fight, another struggle. You become afraid to fall asleep."
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPMUz8RAjks#t=8m)
Don't fight it, take authority over it.

UConnCeltics
09-01-2011, 05:19 PM
When I was 4 or 5 I had it, I don't recall anything like it since then. A tarantula the size of my window lengthwise (so about 4 and a half feet) was crawling around the wall that I was facing. I was sleeping on my stomach but my head was turned facing the wall, and I remember it was almost like I was pinned down. I remember trying to turn and yelling for my dad, but that didn't work. Then it just ended, this was odd to me which is why I remember it so good. There was no middle ground, grey area, whatever you want to call it. I just went from paralysis to normal consciousness. I don't know why you want to experience this stuff. Once is enough for me personally, and it seems to me compared to other peoples' experiences I got off relatively easy with mine.

Theoo's Daddy
09-01-2011, 05:24 PM
smoke some kush before sleeping brah.. you'll be out cold, f8ck a lucid dream. :roll:

Bladers
09-01-2011, 05:37 PM
I remember when the topic was raised in one of my coolest most fun class in high school (first hour biology) and immediately everyone's eyes was lit.


Like OMG that's what happened to me... EVERYONE and there was like 30 people in the class. Everyone started talking about their experience... Some saying, I just had it last night. I thought, damn demons are pretty busy these days. I wish they would come back so I can toy with them.

I so wanted to blut out, "If any demons are here with any one come to 4042 c****** street, pay me a visit, I will take it easy on you. :D"

But quickly remembered I would forever be branded as a nut, so I digressed...

CLE[216]
09-01-2011, 05:37 PM
When you're asleep, your body goes into a temporary paralysis so that you don't act out your dreams. It can be pretty terrifying because sometimes you'll awaken yet your body will still be in that paralysis, and you'll also be prone to hallucinations for those few seconds. Fun fact: Instead of freaking out during the short time that you're paralyzed, close your eyes and try to fall back asleep. You'll almost always enter a lucid dream immediately.

Bladers
09-01-2011, 05:40 PM
']When you're asleep, your body goes into a temporary paralysis so that you don't act out your dreams. It can be pretty terrifying because sometimes you'll awaken yet your body will still be in that paralysis, and you'll also be prone to hallucinations for those few seconds. Fun fact: Instead of freaking out during the short time that you're paralyzed, close your eyes and try to fall back asleep. You'll almost always enter a lucid dream immediately.

Here comes the idiot believing everything he's told but never actually doing the research.

This is what ticks me off.

did you even watch the Documentary by BBC? :facepalm

CLE[216]
09-01-2011, 05:46 PM
Here comes the idiot believing everything he's told but never actually doing the research.

This is what ticks me off.

did you even watch the Documentary by BBC? :facepalm

Watching some ***** ass BBC sensationalized BS isn't research, sorry. I've read up on the subject enough to know what I'm talking about.

bumpyknucks
09-01-2011, 06:00 PM
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Stuckey
09-01-2011, 06:04 PM
i been having super super vivid dreams

only one nightmare so far

god damn they are interesting, and i learn a lot

i just took a nap and i remember i was doing 360 cycles mid air, felt the equilibrium shift too, weeeeird

when you can fly in your dream, that's better than wet dreams

Bladers
09-01-2011, 06:11 PM
']Watching some ***** ass BBC sensationalized BS isn't research, sorry. I've read up on the subject enough to know what I'm talking about.

So amusing how someone could be so ignorant about his ignorance.

It baffles me!

That documentary you are talking about actually had doctors and scientists in it.
You just don't like it because of the conclusion it portrayed.

A willing sheep will always remain in the sheep-fold because that's what it wants. Go ahead, listen to whatever someone conjures up because he has a main-stream sensationist title "scientist" before his name but don't ask any questions, don't reason, just swallow the pill.

CLE[216]
09-01-2011, 06:16 PM
So amusing how someone could be so ignorant about his ignorance.

It baffles me!

That documentary you are talking about actually had doctors and scientists in it.
You just don't like it because of the conclusion it portrayed.

An Idiot will always remain Idiots. Go ahead, listen to whatever someone conjured up because he has a mainstream title "scientist" before his name.

I'm not wasting an hour of my life watching some shitty documentary with "ghosts" in the title. Care to summarize it for me?

Bladers
09-01-2011, 06:29 PM
']I'm not wasting an hour of my life watching some shitty documentary with "ghosts" in the title. Care to summarize it for me?

Gosh what an idiot, if you weren't so deluded you would know that the title "ghost" was from the youtube uploader of the video.

how can there be such delusional people in this world? :facepalm

Regardless, this is exactly what i'm talking about. You spend a few minute reading some BS on Wiki and come and claim, Yeah I know about SP, I know what cause it, I know what's its about. Its about this this.

But you don't know shit about it. You completely swallowed a freaking pill that someone gave you without looking into it yourself.

That's what a sheeple means. The same people who fell for the hurricane irene. You are of the same brand.

This is what ticks me, makes me boil and steams shoot out of my ears. Because people will say, "Oh hell yeah, I believe in evolution!" But how many hours have they put in to study it? OR did they read something on WIKI or on some atheist's page and say oh yeah I know all about it and its completely true?

If you can't spend hours studying a topic and actually find out about the topic and everything that consists it, before hearing what scientists say about, and ask yourself several questions like do they actually address all the questions and areas, how did they came up with their conclusion and so on and so forth.

If you can't watch documentaries that brings to light everything concerning a topic.

Then you are just another brain-washed sheeple who is dancing to the same old music GTFO of this thread!!! :rant

CLE[216]
09-01-2011, 06:46 PM
You are seriously a dense *****. It's one documentary on the subject, it's not the final word on sleep paralysis. And it did in fact turn into some ghost story nonsense at the end.

Also--


The same people who fell for the hurricane irene. You are of the same brand.

What does "fell for the hurricane irene" mean? Like the media hyped it up to be worse than it was? It didn't kill people like Katrina did but it definitely ****ed some shit up.

Bladers
09-01-2011, 06:53 PM
']You are seriously a dense *****. It's one documentary on the subject, it's not the final word on sleep paralysis. And it did in fact turn into some ghost story nonsense at the end.


Wait first, You haven't watched it and yet you reject it completely? Why is that? because it doesn't sit well with your religion.

So basically any documentary that rears up and challenge your belief is a bunch of rubbish. And that's why you said "Its one documentary on the subject. it's not the final word on sleep paralysis."

This is basic truth selection. Its not true and a waste of time if it doesn't sit well with your religion. But its golden and worth all the time in the world if it promotes your religion.

Okay I understand, not that I didn't already.

You may ask, what is your religion.
Well are you an atheist? Yes. Well there you go!

And by the way, these so called "ghost stories" which are real to the person who experienced them are what sleep paralysis is trying to explain you freaking IDIOT!

Gosh you are an idiot.

CLE[216]
09-01-2011, 07:04 PM
Wait first, You haven't watched it and yet you reject it completely? Why is that? because it doesn't sit well with your religion.

So basically any documentary that rears up and challenge your belief is a bunch of rubbish. And that's why you said "Its one documentary on the subject. it's not the final word on sleep paralysis."

This is basic truth selection. Its not true and a waste of time if it doesn't sit well with your religion. But its golden and worth all the time in the world if it promotes your religion.

Okay I understand, not that I didn't already.

You may ask, what is your religion.
Well are you an atheist? Yes. Well there you go!

And by the way, these so called "ghost stories" are what sleep paralysis is trying to explain you freaking IDIOT!

Gosh you are an idiot.

Dude, I know about all the mythical tales of nightmare demons sitting on your chest and shadow people in the corner of the room, I've heard it all before. In that state you're susceptible to hallucination because you're still in a dream state but those dreams are sort of layered over your real vision. It's happened to me before. My theory is that people experience this and they panic and freak out, and those emotions fuel the hallucinations to become even more menacing. It's like in a dream, your emotions will guide and shape the dream. It's something you learn through lucid dreaming.

Anyway, I don't have a religion Bladers. I was baptized Catholic before I could talk, but since then I've reformed my beliefs.

Bladers
09-01-2011, 07:51 PM
']Dude, I know about all the mythical tales of nightmare demons sitting on your chest and shadow people in the corner of the room, I've heard it all before. In that state you're susceptible to hallucination because you're still in a dream state but those dreams are sort of layered over your real vision. It's happened to me before. My theory is that people experience this and they panic and freak out, and those emotions fuel the hallucinations to become even more menacing. It's like in a dream, your emotions will guide and shape the dream. It's something you learn through lucid dreaming.

Anyway, I don't have a religion Bladers. I was baptized Catholic before I could talk, but since then I've reformed my beliefs.

You do have a religion, its called atheism. Besides that, how could you call them "mytical tales" if they actually happened? Seeing vision in your dreams should be called mythical tales since its been happening from the dawn of time.

If everytime I slept I saw a sword and I later discovered people thousands of years used to see a sword when they slept. Is that a myth? Your definition of myths needs a heavy overhaul. :facepalm

How you do even explain accounts of people getting raped and waking up with semen on their back? Or do you cop out by calling them 'fabricated" stories? Read around this thread and other threads and around the internet. You will find people who have encountered SP and the explanation you swallowed on Wiki doesn't explain many parts of what they experienced it.

Any one can read stuff from Wiki in just a few minutes and claim they know about something. In AI there is something called symbol grounding, you don't have it. it doesn't take a special smart individual to believe everything you read that starts with "Scientists..." it only takes a simple minded sheeple!

A year ago there was a thread here about consciousness and NDE thread. There was a documentary full of documented cases of NDE of people who died and would float over their body and recall everything word for word what went on, and what was visually going on in the operation room when they were 100% brain dead.

These cases are confirmed by doctors even.

Now there was an atheist scientist in the documentary who dismiss it as neurons firing in the brain from lack of oxygen which creates hallucination. A simple sheeple will by that and run with it without reasoning it through and symbol grounding it.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, it doesn't make it true.

But the thing is, these atheist main streamed sensationalized and termed "scientist" thrive on is your ignorance to test or fact check what they say.

If its true that NDE is hallucination from the brain. Then the hallucination would be fake and not be compatible with reality and therefore an easy test would prove whether its real or not and finally end the debate.

Now lets say I claimed that I can hover out of my body at will and travel with my mind to anywhere in the world (astral projection) and I told you it was real. The first thing you would say would be: no its a hallucination. The exact same can be achieved by hallucinate drugs like acid or w/e.

Finally you would say, if you truly believe it. PROVE IT! You would instantly come up with a test satisfying enough for anyone to believe. And this test can be repeated again and again with the same 100% accurate if its infact true.

For example, you would say. "I will write out 10 random characters (numbers and letters for example: '17frk529sz') on a red paper on the floor and I will give you 10 minutes to hover over to my house right now and come into my room and read the characters, remember them in order. Come back into your body and tell me what they are. Then we would know whether your OBE is a hallucination by the brain or not."

If he came back 10 minutes later and told you that you wrote '17frk529sz'.
Then you would obviously know what he's experiencing is infact real and not a hallucination by the brain, because hallucinations are not dynamic, they are static.

But guess what? These scientists thrive on the fact you won't notice that they make assumptive conclusions like saying NDE is a hallucination, but never propose or advocate scientific tests to determine whether its real or actual hallucination. Infact they refuse and disregard them.

They thrive on the fact that you accredit the media sensationized term "scientist" with God status. So you woundn't reason like you would normally do. You would normally say "Hold on, wait, Since its a hallucination, then it won't be real and would be easily proven fake if the subject can't pass a simple reality test check.

But no you don't do that like you would normally do, why? Because you swallow it whole without asking any questions like a sheeple because you have a brain washed mindset that whatever a scientist says equals absolute truth.

I can tell you alot of test have been done of doctors putting notes a the bottom of the operation room that can only be seen from a top view so when ever people that clinically died and came back and proposed to them notions of being out of the body. He would quickly ask them, well tell me whats the words says on the floor.

But ofcourse, who needs tests, I can just wait for a so called unknown individual who has been coined as a main stream "scientist" by the media to ram his religion of atheistism down my thought in the name and cover of "science" and I will gladly swallow. :hammerhead:

Bladers
09-01-2011, 08:19 PM
So, you're not a troll, huh? No one would go through that much hassle for such little feedback. You're seriously a deranged person.

Look I love science and technology. I'm fascinated by it. I'm currently researching and developing my own theory on Artificial General Intelligence.

I myself I'm a scientist in the term of the word, but of-course many main-stream scientists will not recognize me as one even after I get my Computer Science & Engineering degree. Even after I develop the first Thinking Machine equivalent to Human Intelligence, first AGI system whereas thousands of other scientists for hundreds of years have failed to develop because their theories have been wrong or slightly off.

airchibundo507
09-01-2011, 08:22 PM
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knickballer
09-01-2011, 08:39 PM
How you do even explain accounts of people getting raped and waking up with semen on their back? Or do you cop out by calling them 'fabricated" stories? Read around this thread and other threads and around the internet. You will find people who have encountered SP and the explanation you swallowed on Wiki doesn't explain many parts of what they experienced it.



Alright dude I'm calling you out on your bullshit right there :oldlol: But I would like to read those stories though.. give me a link(srs)

Also during SP you are hallucinating and imagining it. The monsters your are imaging aren't demons that Satan is torturing you with, it's all in your mind.

As for Astral projection that looks ****ing intense. Wouldn't want to mess with that shit.

airchibundo507
09-01-2011, 08:44 PM
Alright dude I'm calling you out on your bullshit right there :oldlol: But I would like to read those stories though.. give me a link(srs)

Also during SP you are hallucinating and imagining it. The monsters your are imaging aren't demons that Satan is torturing you with, it's all in your mind.

As for Astral projection that looks ****ing intense. Wouldn't want to mess with that shit.

go read my sleep paralysis thread. the link is in one of the early posts in this thread.

Sam Winchester
09-01-2011, 10:40 PM
Me and my brother Dean have been trying to find out where this is all coming from. We believe that the supernatural has something to do with it. Got to call Cas, he'll know what to do.

sawyersauce
09-01-2011, 11:11 PM
Read read read - skip bladers BS - read read read. His trolling is like the commercial break of the thread.

I get sleep paralysis pretty regularly. Sometimes more than once per night. It's always when I sleep on my back, so sleeping on my side is a pretty effective preventative. I'v never had any visual hallucinations with it, but I often hear distant talking. It sounds people are having a conversation in the next room or I left the TV on. It's barely noticeable and always ends when I fully 'wake up' and can move again.

I can't lucid dream. Every time I realise I'm dreaming I just wake up.

gigantes
09-02-2011, 12:03 AM
only got through the first page, mainly because people here have such trouble with reading, comprehension, and the very lightest of research.

this is THE ONLY example of sleep paralysis i saw on the first page and through the few most recent posts:

I get it once every year or so.

It's pretty freaky. I'm awake, and aware, but I cannot open my eyes or move my body. You get a panic feeling and you breath heavily until you just jerk awake. At least that's how it is for me.

Bladers
09-02-2011, 12:06 AM
only got through the first page, mainly because people here have such trouble with reading, comprehension, and the very lightest of research.

this is THE ONLY example of sleep paralysis i saw on the first page and through the few most recent posts:

Looks like you're the one who has the very slightest idea about SP if you think all it consists of is just awareness and paralysis.

Bladers
09-02-2011, 12:10 AM
only got through the first page, mainly because people here have such trouble with reading, comprehension, and the very lightest of research.



Topic: Experiences with Sleep paralysis and Lucid dreaming?


Hmm... So whose the one with the trouble of "reading and comprehension" or in the right term: reading comprehension? :hammerhead:

Kobe681
09-02-2011, 01:01 AM
You do have a religion, its called atheism. Besides that, how could you call them "mytical tales" if they actually happened? Seeing vision in your dreams should be called mythical tales since its been happening from the dawn of time.

If everytime I slept I saw a sword and I later discovered people thousands of years used to see a sword when they slept. Is that a myth? Your definition of myths needs a heavy overhaul. :facepalm

How you do even explain accounts of people getting raped and waking up with semen on their back? Or do you cop out by calling them 'fabricated" stories? Read around this thread and other threads and around the internet. You will find people who have encountered SP and the explanation you swallowed on Wiki doesn't explain many parts of what they experienced it.

Any one can read stuff from Wiki in just a few minutes and claim they know about something. In AI there is something called symbol grounding, you don't have it. it doesn't take a special smart individual to believe everything you read that starts with "Scientists..." it only takes a simple minded sheeple!

A year ago there was a thread here about consciousness and NDE thread. There was a documentary full of documented cases of NDE of people who died and would float over their body and recall everything word for word what went on, and what was visually going on in the operation room when they were 100% brain dead.

These cases are confirmed by doctors even.

Now there was an atheist scientist in the documentary who dismiss it as neurons firing in the brain from lack of oxygen which creates hallucination. A simple sheeple will by that and run with it without reasoning it through and symbol grounding it.

It doesn't matter how many times you repeat it, it doesn't make it true.

But the thing is, these atheist main streamed sensationalized and termed "scientist" thrive on is your ignorance to test or fact check what they say.

If its true that NDE is hallucination from the brain. Then the hallucination would be fake and not be compatible with reality and therefore an easy test would prove whether its real or not and finally end the debate.

Now lets say I claimed that I can hover out of my body at will and travel with my mind to anywhere in the world (astral projection) and I told you it was real. The first thing you would say would be: no its a hallucination. The exact same can be achieved by hallucinate drugs like acid or w/e.

Finally you would say, if you truly believe it. PROVE IT! You would instantly come up with a test satisfying enough for anyone to believe. And this test can be repeated again and again with the same 100% accurate if its infact true.

For example, you would say. "I will write out 10 random characters (numbers and letters for example: '17frk529sz') on a red paper on the floor and I will give you 10 minutes to hover over to my house right now and come into my room and read the characters, remember them in order. Come back into your body and tell me what they are. Then we would know whether your OBE is a hallucination by the brain or not."

If he came back 10 minutes later and told you that you wrote '17frk529sz'.
Then you would obviously know what he's experiencing is infact real and not a hallucination by the brain, because hallucinations are not dynamic, they are static.

But guess what? These scientists thrive on the fact you won't notice that they make assumptive conclusions like saying NDE is a hallucination, but never propose or advocate scientific tests to determine whether its real or actual hallucination. Infact they refuse and disregard them.

They thrive on the fact that you accredit the media sensationized term "scientist" with God status. So you woundn't reason like you would normally do. You would normally say "Hold on, wait, Since its a hallucination, then it won't be real and would be easily proven fake if the subject can't pass a simple reality test check.

But no you don't do that like you would normally do, why? Because you swallow it whole without asking any questions like a sheeple because you have a brain washed mindset that whatever a scientist says equals absolute truth.

I can tell you alot of test have been done of doctors putting notes a the bottom of the operation room that can only be seen from a top view so when ever people that clinically died and came back and proposed to them notions of being out of the body. He would quickly ask them, well tell me whats the words says on the floor.

But ofcourse, who needs tests, I can just wait for a so called unknown individual who has been coined as a main stream "scientist" by the media to ram his religion of atheistism down my thought in the name and cover of "science" and I will gladly swallow. :hammerhead:

LOL. You're hilarious. I've seen so many of your posts and actually thought you were serious and some crazy nut. But at least a crazy nut that was serious about himself. But after reading your last couple posts its obvious youre just f*cking with everyone. I'm impressed and relieved. So thanks :cheers:


ANYWAY. To get back to what the topic is about.

I get these dreams about 2-3 times a year. But you guys have crazy ass nightmares that go along with them. I dont get any crazy shit like that. I simply wake up but cant move my body. Sometimes I have my eyes open, sometimes I dont. One time I was able to open a tiny little corner of one of my eyes.

But I do kinda freak out because it kinda 'hurts'. Its hard to explain. It just hurts laying there and not being able to move and I struggle and struggle until I am able to get one of my arms or legs to explode up.

Is lucid dreaming where you are able to control your dreams? I think I have done that a few times. How does one do able to control this??...

vinsane01
09-02-2011, 01:18 AM
Everyone experiences lucid dreaming at least once a month or so. Sleep paralysis on the other hand is something i havent experienced or maybe i had but wasnt aware that it was because of disinterest resulting from fatigue and need for more sleep.

bumpyknucks
09-02-2011, 03:49 AM
what is 5htp?

not meaning to scare you but "flying" during sleep paralysis is astral projection. when your spirit leaves your body, there's no telling what can toy with it in your absence. it's completely defenseless.

5-htp=

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-htp

As for the rest of your post...I

DirkNowitzki41
09-02-2011, 04:30 AM
Wow. I just had it, its like I was awake and i started thinking to my self what if I had sleep paralysis.. then all of a sudden I couldnt fcking move :lol

I was asleep on my stomach looking to my left and i couldnt see much other than bits of black smoke and cold air. It lasted for 10 seconds as I just kept saying to my self that this was a dream. Just like that i could move again.. Weird as hell

NYballin
09-02-2011, 04:41 AM
this happen to me for the first time a few years back, and started up again a few months ago

it was weird as **** the fist time, i was laying on my back then in the middle of the night i woke up and and couldnt move and when i tried it felt like there was some kind of resistance, i was struggling to open my eyes and and i couldnt do it so i tried using my hand to move my eyelids so i can see and i couldnt do that either, so i tried again and was able to raise my had very slowly to pry open my eyelids but when my eyes open i could barley see and everything was foggy and dark. after about 15-20 seconds i was able to move and see and get up like nothing happened.

ZeN
06-08-2015, 10:43 PM
Theres many threads similar to this one on ISH lately