U.S. Open 2011

[EnoughSaid]

Didn't see a thread for this, so here.

The second week has just begun.

Sep. 5 Matches:

Fish vs. Tsonga

Djokovic vs. Bogolomov

Serena vs. Ivanovic

Those are the main ones.

[Whiteness]

Didn't see a thread for this, so here.

The second week has just begun.

Sep. 5 Matches:

Fish vs. Tsonga

Djokovic vs. Bogolomov

Serena vs. Ivanovic

Those are the main ones.
edit: i guess not

go fish LoL

[FourthTenor]

Serena looks like a defensive end, jebus

[GOBB]

Defensive end? :rolleyes:


Anyway, does anyone know how betting on tennis works? I'm curious the odds of Serena Williams. She's a 28 seed. You gotta profit if she gets far in this tourney no?

[Grinder]

Defensive end? :rolleyes:


Anyway, does anyone know how betting on tennis works? I'm curious the odds of Serena Williams. She's a 28 seed. You gotta profit if she gets far in this tourney no?

Nah bro. I bet on tennis quite a bit, the oddsmakers know their stuff. Seeding is pretty much irrelevant when Serena's on the court. The seeds just follow the year round rankings (Serena's is low because she hardly played in any tournaments in the last year). She played against Azarenka last round (the number 4 seed) and the odds were like 1.2 for Serena and 4-5ish for Azarenka.

[GOBB]

Nah bro. I bet on tennis quite a bit, the oddsmakers know their stuff. Seeding is pretty much irrelevant when Serena's on the court. The seeds just follow the year round rankings (Serena's is low because she hardly played in any tournaments in the last year). She played against Azarenka last round (the number 4 seed) and the odds were like 1.2 for Serena and 4-5ish for Azarenka.

:cheers:

Did you take any action on mens or womens?

[Grinder]

:cheers:

Did you take any action on mens or womens?


Yessir

I've got $2000 on Serena to win the women's tourney @ 2.85

So if she wins I make $3700 in profit. :cheers:

Other than that, I've had a bunch of smaller bets on individual matches and also on Eurobasket

[GatorKid117]

Serena looks unbeatable. Only way she doesn't win is if she gets hurt. Who's going to beat her, Wozniaki? I don't think she has the firepower. Serena just too powerful.

For the guys, Djoko has looked amazing as well. Thats to be expected but hes just straight merking everyone. Nadal and Fed look solid but if they play, I expect Djoko to pull it out.

Can't believe Roddick is in. I hate the guy but hes surprised me. After looking pretty bad imo the first match hes turned it on.

And I'm really excited for the Fish/Tsonga match. Two of my fave players, hopefully Fish can pull it out. It'll be really tough, Tsonga is a great competitor.

[bisk]

Please tell me I'm not the only one that's been watching this epic tiebreak.

[Sarcastic]

Greatest 28 seed tennis will ever see.

[GatorKid117]

Please tell me I'm not the only one that's been watching this epic tiebreak.

Was pretty epic. Dopple should have had it. Djoko will win now. Already broke him.

[Jailblazers7]

Defensive end? :rolleyes:

Yeah, I was thinking more like middle linebacker.

[bisk]

Was pretty epic. Dopple should have had it. Djoko will win now. Already broke him.


Coming after last night's even more epic tiebreak between Kirilenko and Stosur. They had like 3 challenges or so overturned.

Dolgo is a crazy maniac though, that's how he beat Soderling and Tsonga in Australia at the beginning of the year (If I remember correctly).

[bisk]

Yup, Dolgo collapsing.

[Abd El-Krim]

Fish up 2-1 on Tsonga. Really pulling for the guy, cool to see all these Americans in the mix. Hopefully his ankle holds up.

[Abd El-Krim]

:roll:

Fish to Tsonga when complaining about his box, "I don't speak French, dumbass."

Please come back.

[GOBB]

Roddick looks like crap. Thought this was gonna be a star studded matchup duel. I'm talkin out my ass as I'm not a tennis fan by any means. Not even close, but these two names are familiar to me and well Nadal is owning. Roddick needs to be btchslapped out of the funk he's in. Why am I watching this?

[Take Your Lumps]

I think Roger takes Novak out tomorrow.

Who you got?

[bdreason]

Roddick looks like crap. Thought this was gonna be a star studded matchup duel. I'm talkin out my ass as I'm not a tennis fan by any means. Not even close, but these two names are familiar to me and well Nadal is owning. Roddick needs to be btchslapped out of the funk he's in. Why am I watching this?



Even reaching the Q-finals is an accomplishment for Roddick at this point. He's on the downside of his career, and is currently the 3rd highest ranked American male. I was surprised Andy beat Ferrer in the last round to be honest.


If you want to see a real showdown, watch the Djoker vs. Federer matchup tomorrow.

[bdreason]

I think Roger takes Novak out tomorrow.

Who you got?


My head says Djoker, my heart says Federer.


I'm going to go with my heart this time. I think Federer knows his window is closing, and he's been playing really well so far.

[Black Joker]

I think Roger takes Novak out tomorrow.

Who you got?
i got djoker on this one.

i mean both have only dropped one set this tourney, but it's just hard to bet against Novak this year

[GatorKid117]

Sigh, not going to be able to watch the Fed match tomorrow. Should be an amazing match.

Roddick, I'm surprised you got this far but that match was still mighty disappointing. I don't like you so whatever though lol.

Still think Djoko is the favorite.

[The_Yearning]

Am I the only one that sees Nadal winning this whole thing?

[The Ownage]

Am I the only one that sees Nadal winning this whole thing?
Yes, Djokovic is going to handle him.

[c3z4r]

Am I the only one that sees Nadal winning this whole thing?

I'm also with nadal on this one. He really seems on a mission in this tournament. But I might be biased on this 1 cuz im a big nadal fan.

[The_Yearning]

Yes, Djokovic is going to handle him.

He's gotta worry about Federer first... and I don't see that chump Murray beating Nadal.

[Qwyjibo]

Once again I hope Federer wins but "anyone other than Djokovic" would be a good result too. Fed has looked damn good but hasn't really faced much competition. People were making too big of a deal about one match where Tsonga played as if he had a gun to his head and won. He's not close to the level of the top 3 guys.

[raiderfan19]

I truthfully think fed wins this. I think the US open is feds best surface and i think hes playing quite well. Hes just got to serve really well since djoker is such a great returner.

[NugzHeat3]

Roddick looks like crap. Thought this was gonna be a star studded matchup duel. I'm talkin out my ass as I'm not a tennis fan by any means. Not even close, but these two names are familiar to me and well Nadal is owning. Roddick needs to be btchslapped out of the funk he's in. Why am I watching this?
Roddick usually looks like crap against the elite players.

I was surprised he got by Ferrer cause Ferrer's one of the best returners in the game. Fatigue and injuries were brought up in his match with Nadal but he was just outplayed.

He didn't get a high percent of his first serves in and Nadal attacked his second serve. I thought Roddick was an idiot for getting in those long rallies with Nadal; seems like he was content with being defensive instead of taking the initiative and Nadal will kill you in those rallies. Rafa hit some really good passing shots as well when Roddick would try to volley.

I think Nadal will win this. Murray doesn't stand a chance; he has the talent but Nadal's a lot more tougher mentally. Djoko/Fed should be a good one. Hard to say who'll get through.

[The_Yearning]

It's simple for me really... if Fed wins, I want Murray in the final because I know Nadal will thrash Fed...

[The_Yearning]

Federer has the assassin's eye today

[Rysio]

It's simple for me really... if Fed wins, I want Murray in the final because I know Nadal will thrash Fed...
He can only trash fed on clay so no.

[EnoughSaid]

Dude, Nadal is only the absolute favorite on clay. On every other surface, it's pretty even.

[Black Joker]

both of them are absolutely ripping the ball right now

[Black Joker]

DJoker with the saves

[Black Joker]

great first set. lets see Djoker recover

[NugzHeat3]

Dude, Nadal is only the absolute favorite on clay. On every other surface, it's pretty even.
Yeah but Nadal always has the mental edge going into each match. Rafa always physically wears him out.

Fed is serving pretty well right now, both guys are. Really close match. I'm not seeing either getting broken until they find their groove.

[alenleomessi]

federer looking good hopefully he wins

[The_Yearning]

Federer smells blood...

[Whiteness]

Federer smells blood...

and unlike the djoker, he eats his wheaties

[Black Joker]

and Novak breaks back!

[bdreason]

Roger looking good. When he's locating his serve and hitting the backhand well, he's almost unbeatable.


Djoker can heat up at any time. He always starts slow.

[The_Yearning]

and unlike the djoker, he eats his wheaties

What?

[Whiteness]

What?

djoker is gluten free

[Black Joker]

two set advantage to Fed. looking grim for novak

[Black Joker]

Djok with the early break. Cmon! rally time!

[Qwyjibo]

Cmon, Fed. Step on his throat and crush it.

[Black Joker]

Djoker! Double Break!

[EnoughSaid]

Wimbledon all over again. :facepalm

[leopoldstotch]

looks like federer can't keep up with djokovic's energy. he matched it in the 1st 2 sets, but has declined after.

[Black Joker]

complete the comeback Novak!

[The_Yearning]

Maybe this is for the best... Nadal vs. Djoker in the final.

[alenleomessi]

u gotta be shitting me :facepalm

[Abd El-Krim]

bummed I missed the first four sets, but pumped to watch this last one.

[jamal99]

Damn epic match!

[winwin]

yessss

2 more aces please

[alenleomessi]

come on fed stop choking :rolleyes:

[IlliniFan]

Come on fed...this match should be over.

[Qwyjibo]

Ugh, I can't believe Djokovic actually has fans outside of Serbia.

[jamal99]

Federer choking :roll:

Djoker is just too clutch...

[The_Yearning]

P-Diddy rooting for Djoko... I have never seen such a bandwagoner in tennis before...

[IlliniFan]

P-Diddy rooting for Djoko... I have never seen such a bandwagoner in tennis before...
Who isn't a "bandwagoner" in tennis? It's not like your grow up rooting for one person your entire life.

[Qwyjibo]

That was a big collapse on those two match points, damn.

Go Rafa or Murray in the final.

[The_Yearning]

Who isn't a "bandwagoner" in tennis? It's not like your grow up rooting for one person your entire life.

This is like the first time P-Diddy is at a Tennis match not featuring any of the Williams sisters.

[EnoughSaid]

First year since 2003 where Fed didn't win at least 1 major. Sad to see arguably the greatest go like this.

[Qwyjibo]

First year since 2003 where Fed didn't win at least 1 major. Sad to see arguably the greatest go like this.
I think he's got 1, maybe 2, wins in him before he retires. Sampras and Agassi both won a late major too. But at his age, everything needs to go just right for Federer.

[EnoughSaid]

I think he's got 1, maybe 2, wins in him before he retires. Sampras and Agassi both won a late major too. But at his age, everything needs to go just right for Federer.

I'm sure if he would have gotten past Tsonga at Wimbledon, he would have won. Federer just has really bad luck when it comes to winning during clutch moments.

[The_Yearning]

Only Nadal can take out the Juggernaut.

[DuMa]

great match. im disappointed fed lost it with 2 MPs. unexpected from the goat to do that twice after last year.

but djoke was hitting the ball so cleanly and with so much power the last 3 games. it was great tennis.

[NugzHeat3]

Novak just hit a ridiculous return winner on the first match point that totally swung the momentum and the crowd in his favor.

Fed just couldn't recover after that. It was pretty sad to watch.

[EnoughSaid]

Only Nadal can take out the Juggernaut.

No. Just no. Nadal had a chance during Wimbledon, and didn't do it.

Novak is having the greatest year in Tennis history. 69-2 are you kidding me? And 1 loss came after him having to retire. I personally think that he's at this point, unbeatable.

[The_Yearning]

Nadal needs to go back to that all back and yellow assassin outfit from last year

[leopoldstotch]

This is like the first time P-Diddy is at a Tennis match not featuring any of the Williams sisters.

+1

this guy bandwagons as much as your typical yankees/cowboys fan

:lol

[DaHeezy]

Why are people acting like Federer is done? He's still No.3 in the world and is only 28

[NugzHeat3]

Why are people acting like Federer is done? He's still No.3 in the world and is only 28
First of all, he's 30.

Secondly, 28 is quite old for a tennis player. Tennis players usually peak in their mid 20s and retire in their early 30s because of injuries and a lack of motivation. Fed is still a great player but nowhere near his prime years.

There's a few exceptions like Agassi and Connors who had unreal longevity. But for the most part that's the norm.

Even Sampras looked done around 30 till he raped everyone in the 2002 USO and conveniently retired right after.

I think Federer may win a couple more because he's stayed pretty injury free but it'll be really hard since Nadal and Djoker are at the top of their game with Murray right at the corner.

[Sarcastic]

#28 seed takes the first set vs the #1 seed, 6-2.

[EnoughSaid]

#28 seed takes the first set vs the #1 seed, 6-2.

You can't really say that, because Serena's like a man. I bet she could beat some of the men.

[Sarcastic]

You can't really say that, because Serena's like a man. I bet she could beat some of the men.

I'm just stating a fact.

[Sarcastic]

Serena is destroying Wozniacki.

How is she number 1? She has never won a major.

[EnoughSaid]

Serena is destroying Wozniacki.

How is she number 1? She has never won a major.

Most of the past winners last year and this year haven't been high ranks. Wozniacki has won a bunch of other minor ATP titles, and that's why she's #1.

[NugzHeat3]

Serena is destroying Wozniacki.

How is she number 1? She has never won a major.
Weak era for women tennis.

Its been pretty pathetic ever since 2007 or so.

[Grinder]

Yessir

I've got $2000 on Serena to win the women's tourney @ 2.85

So if she wins I make $3700 in profit. :cheers:

Other than that, I've had a bunch of smaller bets on individual matches and also on Eurobasket


1 more win Serena please. :applause:

[Sarcastic]

Weak era for women tennis.

Its been pretty pathetic ever since 2007 or so.

At least the sport has parity. People love that, don't they?

[EnoughSaid]

Serena's a monster, not only physically, but in Tennis too. I don't see her losing in a while. Only Maria can stop her now.

[leopoldstotch]

no one is near serena in the wta tour. the only person who can stop serena is serena herself when she self destructs, which we have seen in the past.

[Qwyjibo]

A healthy Clijsters can definitely challenge Serena.

[enayes]

No. Just no. Nadal had a chance during Wimbledon, and didn't do it.

Novak is having the greatest year in Tennis history. 69-2 are you kidding me? And 1 loss came after him having to retire. I personally think that he's at this point, unbeatable.

What? Fed beat him at the French and was one point away from beating him again.

Nadal will win on Monday.

[Sarcastic]

No. Just no. Nadal had a chance during Wimbledon, and didn't do it.

Novak is having the greatest year in Tennis history. 69-2 are you kidding me? And 1 loss came after him having to retire. I personally think that he's at this point, unbeatable.

Rod Laver won THE Grand Slam, twice.

Novak is having a great year, but far from greatest ever.

[DuMa]

First of all, he's 30.

Secondly, 28 is quite old for a tennis player. Tennis players usually peak in their mid 20s and retire in their early 30s because of injuries and a lack of motivation. Fed is still a great player but nowhere near his prime years.

There's a few exceptions like Agassi and Connors who had unreal longevity. But for the most part that's the norm.

Even Sampras looked done around 30 till he raped everyone in the 2002 USO and conveniently retired right after.

I think Federer may win a couple more because he's stayed pretty injury free but it'll be really hard since Nadal and Djoker are at the top of their game with Murray right at the corner.


It will be hard but as long as hes in the semis every major, hes got a chance. and definitely always ALWAYs has a chance against murray. murray will never win a slam because he just plays too defensively.

im picking nadal in 4 on monday. im not betting any money on that so we'll see. i think both men are really in form and there will be extra incentive for nadal to win seeing as how djoke has beaten him 5 times already this year and all in finals.

[NugzHeat3]

It will be hard but as long as hes in the semis every major, hes got a chance. and definitely always ALWAYs has a chance against murray. murray will never win a slam because he just plays too defensively.

im picking nadal in 4 on monday. im not betting any money on that so we'll see. i think both men are really in form and there will be extra incentive for nadal to win seeing as how djoke has beaten him 5 times already this year and all in finals.
He definitely has a chance and he won't have a lot of trouble getting to the semis because at their best, these four are so far above everyone else.

But its gonna be hard for him to get by Nadal or Djoker as time passes by. Unless he catches a break and those two are either injured or eliminated early which isn't that likely since those two hardly have slip ups unlike the former top players (Roddick, Hewitt, Safin ect).

I mean who was expecting Fed to lose to Tsonga at Wimbly after being up 2 sets to 0. That shit just didn't happen to prime Federer.

[Black Joker]

Stosur upsets Serena!

great play by the aussie.
and wth does the US Open do to Serena and her conduct toward chair umps. geez

[RaininThrees]

Stosur upsets Serena!

great play by the aussie.
and wth does the US Open do to Serena and her conduct toward chair umps. geez

Serena is classless, bottom line.

[IGOTGAME]

Serena is classless, bottom line.

Serena is one of the greatest athletes of all time, bottom line.

[leopoldstotch]

Serena is classless, bottom line.

i don't want to say this. her public eruptions not only in the us open, but also french open has made her look that way. i don't want to picture her as classless, but it's very hard for me to hold my argument. her tirade on the chair umpire was unruly. not tennis class-like.

[Dolphin]

Serena is one of the greatest athletes of all time, bottom line.

Ya, how dare he call a black athlete classless. lol

C'mon, be honest, if it was a white tennis player, you would not have felt the need to defend her by pointing out she is one of the all-time greats.

[IGOTGAME]

i don't want to say this. her public eruptions not only in the us open, but also french open has made her look that way. i don't want to picture her as classless, but it's very hard for me to hold my argument. her tirade on the chair umpire was unruly. not tennis class-like.

what exactly is tennis class-like? Like Roddick yelling at chair umps, like Djokiovic crying like a baby, like Sharapova yelling at chair umps?


On a seperate note:

Serena has to deal with more bs from the tennis community than any other player in the world. All the women announcers have gone at her for years. I wouldn't be surprised if she couldn't stand the tennis community.

[IGOTGAME]

Ya, how dare he call a black athlete classless. lol

C'mon, be honest, if it was a white tennis player, you would not have felt the need to defend her by pointing out she is one of the all-time greats.



I think that Serena deals with much more on the tour because she is black. She is under way more scrutiny than any other player out there. All things considered she handles herself quite well.

[Sarcastic]

Wasn't watching. What did Serena do at the end?

[Dolphin]

I think that Serena deals with much more on the tour because she is black. She is under way more scrutiny than any other player out there. All things considered she handles herself quite well.

Maybe. She is atrociously arrogant, however.

As far as what you said about the tennis community giving her a hard time, I would like to add something from the perspective of someone outside of the US. I don't think I've ever heard American announcers ever admit that Serena (and Venus to a lesser extent) has played well in a match she has lost. I think a lot of people who watch tennis, and specifically the American broadcasts, resent Serena (and again, Venus to an extent even though she's much classier) because they have this attitude that she only loses when SHE LOSES, not when someone BEATS HER.

People get annoyed when the American commentators only want to talk about what she did wrong in a loss, rather than giving more credit to the winner.

So while maybe many people in the tennis community give her a hard time, I believe the American media babies her unlike any other American I've ever seen. They're hard on Roddick and the other men. But the sisters? If you go by the American commentators, the only matches they have ever lost are due to time off, injury, head not into it, etc.

I can see how that builds resentment for some.

[enayes]

It's not just the announcers. Serena ALWAYS makes excuses when she loses, NEVER giving credit to her opponent.

I have no problem with Venus, but Serena is a horrible sport and terrible for tennis.

But dat ass..

:bowdown:

[gigantes]

I think that Serena deals with much more on the tour because she is black. She is under way more scrutiny than any other player out there. All things considered she handles herself quite well.
well, it's mainly your own behavior that creates the reasons for people to like you or dislike you. especially if you're a public person.

there is always going to be racism thrown your way by various groups no matter what your skin color, but one thing you have a chance of modifying is your own behavior. venus learned this lesson a long time ago, but serena still seems to glory in her own arrogance and mean-spiritedness as much as ever. at least, far too much for the average fan's taste.

she reaps what she sows. it's basically that simple. it's happened to others before her, and it will happen to others after her. that's life.

[Whiteness]

It's not just the announcers. Serena ALWAYS makes excuses when she loses, NEVER giving credit to her opponent.

I have no problem with Venus, but Serena is a horrible sport and terrible for tennis.

But dat ass..

:bowdown:

she could literally cut a person's hair by clinching her asscheek muscles

[Dolphin]

Watching it again and the incident just happened (didn't see it all the first time).

There is no defense for what Serena did there. Her actions were absolutely moronic, idiotic, pathetic, etc.

It was even awkward listening to the American commentators trying to be polite and see things from her side. I wanted just one of them to flat out "Serena is a moron."

The umpire got the call right. Serena flipped out even though she was wrong. Then calls out the official for being biased, having bad character, saying she wouldn't have called it that way for other players, tells the umpire not to look at her while she's verbally harassing her for the entire change-over, etc.

She should have been thrown out of the match at that point. But hey, she might be unfairly treated by some people in the tennis world so she gets a free pass.

If anyone here says what she did out there was anything less than moronic...I don't know what to say....

I'd like to see the press conferences too. Doubt there's an apology. Just some lame one word answers that you can barely hear as per usual.

[leopoldstotch]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/09/us-open-serena-williams-upset-in-finals-by-samantha-stosur.html

hopefully this brings a slight change of perspective to those trying to stick up for serena. this is just demeaning and low. :facepalm

[Kobe Jnr]

She got asked about it, and she said she didn't remember what she said..

Lol

[The_Yearning]

Lol Serena lost...

Nadal will probably win tomorrow... pulling another upset (it shouldn't really be an upset since Nadal is the better player but that is what they will call it should Nadal win... pretty funny)

Edit: Serena is a joke... she was already losing when she got in a argument with the umpire... it was a dumb call (lets be real here) but still should of remained mentally tough

[Black Joker]

Lol Serena lost...

Nadal will probably win tomorrow... pulling another upset (it shouldn't really be an upset since Nadal is the better player but that is what they will call it should Nadal win... pretty funny)

Edit: Serena is a joke... she was already losing when she got in a argument with the umpire... it was a dumb call (lets be real here) but still should of remained mentally tough

Djokovic is 63-2 this year, has won two majors this year, smacked Nadal around at the Wimbledon final ((6

[donald_trump]

why so many djokovic haters?
the guy has worked his ass of to win his titles and finally be recognized on the same level as federer and nadal after all these years where it seemed only 2 guys could win a major.
have to respect that, at least in my book.

[Laimbeer_Rodman]

Who isn't a "bandwagoner" in tennis? It's not like your grow up rooting for one person your entire life.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[BEAST Griffin]

I suspect Nadal is a juicer. Hope he doesn't win.

[The_Yearning]

I suspect Nadal is a juicer. Hope he doesn't win.

Djokoker uses the hyperbaric chamber...

[BEAST Griffin]

Djokoker uses the hyperbaric chamber...

So?

Using a hyperbaric chamber is not juicing.

[The_Yearning]

So?

Using a hyperbaric chamber is not juicing.

Trust me if Nadal was juicing he wouldn't look so out of shape with that pot belly.

[Andrei89]

Djokovic will mureder Nadal like he did in Wimbledon

[gigantes]

Serena is a joke... she was already losing when she got in a argument with the umpire... it was a dumb call (lets be real here) but still should of remained mentally tough
let's be real... that's rubbish.

you simply can't be yelling out things while the other player is hitting the ball or getting ready to hit the ball. tennis is not like basketball in that way, which i guess you didn't know.

it's bad enough that so many of the women's players shriek like banshees every time they simply hit the ball. it's turning off a growing number of spectators and the pressure is mounting on the tournaments to do something about it...

[Andrei89]

2-2 no first set

Djoko starting slow as usual...then murdering them sons of bitchzz.....go Balkan go!

[donald_trump]

watching nadal play is ridiculously boring.

hes a grinder. simply loops the ball over the net, gives himself enough time to get in good position to return it again for the next ball. simply waits for his opponent to make mistakes now.
this is a guy that was possibly been the most exciting tennis player a year or two ago.

[Andrei89]

watching nadal play is ridiculously boring.

hes a grinder. simply loops the ball over the net, gives himself enough time to get in good position to return it again for the next ball. simply waits for his opponent to make mistakes now.
this is a guy that was possibly been the most exciting tennis player a year or two ago.


and yet he is the one that starts making more and more mistakes.

Go Djokovic yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

[Andrei89]

And Djokovic wins 5 in a row:bowdown: :bowdown:

[The_Yearning]

I'm disappointed in Nadal... he seems like he has regressed since last year. A short prime.

[gigantes]

watching it on usopen.org and i have a question--

who are these announcers? i know at least one of them is a former player, but... yeesh. i think people in the past were much less annoying, like the mac brothers, bud-somebody, and most of those former female players, like pam shriver.

they all had the ability to be both low-key but interesting, even controversial. these guys- one of them sounds like he's half dead, and the other is this noisy nerd who can't shut up.

at 3-2, djoko hit an approaching shot and it clipped the net and popped up, and the color commentator was like "i can't believe djokovich hit such a weak volley like that... oh, wait... on the replay now i see that it hit the top of the net. nevermind."

[gigantes]

I'm disappointed in Nadal... he seems like he has regressed since last year. A short prime.
he has one of the most brilliant resumes in tennis at the mere age of 25 and is still a total beast IMO. i disagree that he's regressed, since his active defense and enormous topspin still blows 99.9% of other players away... including federer.

he has many physical issues, but they are irrelevant at this time. he's still a beast when it counts after he's taken his typical huge amount of time to rest between points.

instead of putting down nadal, IMO it would be better if people simply celebrated how fantastic of a player the djoker is, and what an incredible year he's had. and how his brilliant and intelligent versatility has allowed him to beat the other three with consistency- federer, nadal, murray.

[Black Joker]

these are some ridiculous rallies

[Black Joker]

scratch that, not just some ridiculous rallies. but a ridiculous game. jesus

[bdreason]

This 8 deuce game has been crazy. Longer rallies than you usually see with these two.

[bdreason]

Wow. One of the best single games I've ever seen in Tennis.

[Whiteness]

wow... an historical game right there... can't believe nadal blew that smash

[donald_trump]

holy amazing game insidehoops!

agreed. one of the best games ever. how long was that? 20 mins?

[Black Joker]

nadal is just getting murdered now

[The_Yearning]

Watching Nadal now... the way he plays the game I feel like he was put on this Earth just to stop Federer. The guy plays so far behind the baseline and it works very well vs. Federer because of his weak backhand, but its different vs. the Djokernaut... the guy has a legit backhand.

[GatorKid117]

Some fantastic tennis being played.

[donald_trump]

can nadal really play any better? hes not really doing anything wrong. djokovic has to be one of the smartest and best users of the court ive seen in a while in tennis.

[GatorKid117]

can nadal really play any better? hes not really doing anything wrong. djokovic has to be one of the smartest and best users of the court ive seen in a while in tennis.

His serve has been pathetic so far today. Other than that, not really. He just has to stop choking on the big points. That missed volley 2 games ago was huge. Looks like he has some momentum though. Hopefully Nadal can build upon this little surge.

[The_Yearning]

Is it just me or does Nadal only works on his cardio and conditioning off-season.

[GatorKid117]

What a point.

[The_Yearning]

The way Nadal is celebrating after every point without looking at the score you'd think he is the one winnng

[chips93]

:facepalm at stupid fans, gotta feel sorry for djokovic there

cant believe he had a season like this in him though. i thought he had plateaued as a good all-around player, never thought he could play like he has this season.

still hope rafa wins though

[InfiniteBaskets]

Great match going on. Even though I'm a Fed supporter, I'm glad Djokavic was the one who made it to he finals against Nadal.

[ChuckOakley]

Imma be pissed if Novak retires or can't play at 100%. Nadal doesn't want a tainted victory. He's earned to get to where he is so far.

[chips93]

Imma be pissed if Novak retires or can't play at 100%. Nadal doesn't want a tainted victory. He's earned to get to where he is so far.


what happened novak? just tuned back in

[ChuckOakley]

what happened novak? just tuned back in
Apparently nothing.. took a medical time out for his back, but he's fine. I think he just needed the rest.

[Black Joker]

i dunno, i mean i think something is wrong with his back, have you seen his serves, he's hitting them like 90mph. still playing at a high level though

[The_Yearning]

The Joker just played a mental block on Nadal... dude is mentally broken now.

Game over.

[EnoughSaid]

What a year. I mean it's been ridiculous. SMH at the people who were saying Nadal would beat Djoker. The dude is unbeatable this year. :bowdown:

[The_Yearning]

I don't get it either... Djoker says he attributes most of his success to his new gluten-free diet... I mean how could you just realized you were allergic to gluten? As an athlete you gotta be aware of these things... cause it looks liked he wasted like 6 years of his career.

Edit: Imagine if he didn't have that mental blender against Federer as the French Open... he could of had all 4 grand slam in the same year... and would be undefeated by now if he didn't give out vs. Murray either... shame.

[GatorKid117]

Nadal.....class act all the way. Great match and congrats to Novak. Dudes a monster.

[donald_trump]

great match. one of the best ive seen in a while. wasn't as one sided as the scoreline suggests.

novak is on his way to becoming one of the greats. hes only 24 i believe, and he has a style i believe will hold up well over the years. hes very technically proficient, which i believe will be the key to his prolonged success. although being a great athlete like he is does wonders for his game too. its incredible how well he returns the ball.

[RaininThrees]

2 Words:

Jelena. Ristic.

Novak gets a standing O on two counts.

http://gototennis.com/wp-content/gallery/jelenaristic/novak_djokovic_girlfriend_jelena_ristic_07.jpg

[RaininThrees]

Serena is one of the greatest athletes of all time, bottom line.

I never said she wasn't.

[DuMa]

awesome match. Nadal is more fitter but is not as talented as Joker.

Nadal needs to come back with a better serve and BH to beat Nole. Nole is unbeatable right now. no one can really beat him except for maybe Fed on his best day. Great year for tennis but Im looking forward for the next guy to be able to beat the top 3

[leopoldstotch]

2 Words:

Jelena. Ristic.

Novak gets a standing O on two counts.

http://gototennis.com/wp-content/gallery/jelenaristic/novak_djokovic_girlfriend_jelena_ristic_07.jpg

this.

:applause: :applause:

this chic is f'n hot

[EnoughSaid]

The only guy left to challenge the top 3 is Murray, and he doesn't have it all. Maybe he'll have the next best year.

[jamal99]

****ing incredible game! Novak is writing history of tennis this year... :bowdown:


this.

:applause: :applause:

this chic is f'n hot
And she was with him before he was famous, so she's not a gold digger.

Or she just has a great nose for that stuff...

j/k

[The_Yearning]

Nadal's best years are behind him... with his play-style he has already reached his peak in 2010 and will be regressing, still competitive given ample amount of rest, but regressing nonetheless.

And honestly, if it weren't for the rise of Novak, Nadal would probably have 12 grand slams right now and talks of him being the GOAT would be inevitable...

Federer just had to ruin the whole party by beating Djoker at the French... he stoped Djoker of accomplishing what both he and Nadal could never do... winning all 4 slams in the same year.

[enayes]

Great win for Joker, I had a blast watching this match, so many great rallies.

Novak has obviously had an unbelievable year, but he has a long way to go before his success can be measured against Fed and Nadal's.

It's crazy that a player can be one point away from losing (Joke against Fed) and then go on to win the championship. Part of what makes tennis a great sport.

I love watching Nadal, plays every point so hard and is always classy whether he wins or loses. He is the best thing that has ever happened to tennis.

[GatorKid117]

Nadal's best years are behind him... with his play-style he has already reached his peak in 2010 and will be regressing, still competitive given ample amount of rest, but regressing nonetheless.

And honestly, if it weren't for the rise of Novak, Nadal would probably have 12 grand slams right now and talks of him being the GOAT would be inevitable...

Federer just had to ruin the whole party by beating Djoker at the French... he stoped Djoker of accomplishing what both he and Nadal could never do... winning all 4 slams in the same year.

Nadal has not shown any signs of regression so far. He's only 25 and takes fantastic care of his body. I see no reason why he'd start to decline. The mans only lost 11 times this year and 6 of them were to Djokovic. He's still very much in his prime.

[RaininThrees]

Djokovic's year:

64-2, 3 Slams, 10 titles, 6 Ws in finals vs. Nadal

[PistonsFan#21]

Its crazy to think that Federer had 2 match points to win the game and he was the one serving too but Djokovic still found a way to win that game and ended up winning in the finals too. Probably one of the greatest comebacks in tennis history

[BEAST Griffin]

Meh.

Tennis is not what it used to be.

I remember the times of Sampras, Agassi, Becker, etc.

:bowdown:

[The_Yearning]

Meh.

Tennis is not what it used to be.

I remember the times of Sampras, Agassi, Becker, etc.

:bowdown:

Sampras and Agassi would have trouble getting by guys like Murray, Ferrer, and Tsonga.

[DuMa]

Sampras and Agassi would have trouble getting by guys like Murray, Ferrer, and Tsonga.
only because of the slow courts and string technology. in 90s courts, no way would those guys be able to last with Sampras and Agassi

[IlliniFan]

No one can say definitely one way or the other. There's no way to prove who would beat who between today's players and yesterday's players. It's a dumb argument.

[hummingbird]

Serena is one of the greatest athletes of all time, bottom line.
Serena is, like a lot of black women, totally paranoid. She accuses the umpire of being a hater who hated on her before and was wrong- it was someone else! Then, after calling her a hater, says "I hate you" (!?!) Then she throws in a ghetto "I'm not the one."...as if she's in a WB sitcom. She was outplayed and reacted the way many black women do, with hostility, paranoia, and blame.

[donald_trump]

Serena is, like a lot of black women, totally paranoid. She accuses the umpire of being a hater who hated on her before and was wrong- it was someone else! Then, after calling her a hater, says "I hate you" (!?!) Then she throws in a ghetto "I'm not the one."...as if she's in a WB sitcom. She was outplayed and reacted the way many black women do, with hostility, paranoia, and blame.

andy roddick acts the same way. is he a black woman?

[DaHeezy]

No-Djoke's game has completely evolved this year. I remember when he was primarily a defensive player. He stuck to his baseline and was accurate with his returns. Now his transition game from defense to offense is probably the best I've ever seen. He's patient, but when he finds his opening he attacks with ferocity. To tell you the truth I think with this skillset his prime will be greater than Fed's.

[Hittin_Shots]

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2011/09/us-open-serena-williams-upset-in-finals-by-samantha-stosur.html

hopefully this brings a slight change of perspective to those trying to stick up for serena. this is just demeaning and low. :facepalm

Heh the comments, people commenting negatively towards serena and then a different black person comes to the defence each time...

[hummingbird]

andy roddick acts the same way. is he a black woman?
Well let me educate you, genius. I live and work in the city surrounded by every color, religion, and nationality of people you can imagine. Now, in my experience whenever someone freaks out because they think someone might have brushed them while walking by or whenever someone is convinced that a person or group of people is talking about them (whether true or not) that person in question always looks like Serena Williams, and never like Andy Roddick........ Get it? I'm sorry, but I actually live in the real world and not on the stage of the Oprah Winfrey show. You're welcome.:rolleyes:

[northwinds]

Well let me educate you, genius. I live and work in the city surrounded by every color, religion, and nationality of people you can imagine. Now, in my experience whenever someone freaks out because they think someone might have brushed them while walking by or whenever someone is convinced that a person or group of people is talking about them (whether true or not) that person in question always looks like Serena Williams, and never like Andy Roddick........ Get it? I'm sorry, but I actually live in the real world and not on the stage of the Oprah Winfrey show. You're welcome.:rolleyes:

:applause: Too funny......and so true. I love it when blacks try to ignore reality, like the fact that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of crime wherever they are.

[Laimbeer_Rodman]

Is this a KKK rally or something?

[NugzHeat3]

only because of the slow courts and string technology. in 90s courts, no way would those guys be able to last with Sampras and Agassi
This is definitely true especially regarding the surface modifications. Wimbledon, before the 2001 and 2008 (not sure about 08 but it happened some time around there) changes was a ridiculously fast surface favoring big servers and serve and volley guys. But, now its not as fun to watch and there's longer rallies, its like you're watching a clay court grindfest.

Nadal wouldn't have won Wimbledon or the US Open in the 90s or early 00s due to the faster surface. He wouldn't have beat Federer either. That's why Federer is so great. He's dominated both on the slower courts and the faster ones because he's so great at adjusting his game and beating guys at their own game.

Why do you think a guy like Andy Roddick did so well in the mid 00s? His huge serves paid off on those faster courts and he would have about 6-7 slams if it wasn't for Federer.

You put Sampras and Agassi in today's era, they would definitely have trouble cracking the top 3; Sampras more so than Andre because Agassi had a better all around game. But it's entirely due to the surface changes. Pete was never that successful on the slower courts because the slower bounces took away the impact of his serve and volley game and it showed in his results in French Open.

Pete would definitely get the better off Nadal and Djokovic in his own era though. No way can they deal with his serve on a fast court like Wimbly or USO.

[donald_trump]

lol at the racists teaming up and backing each other up in the thread.

[Whiteness]

lol at the racists teaming up and backing each other up in the thread.

it's kinda hard to defend her...

[donald_trump]

it's kinda hard to defend her...

i was talking about northwinds. he manages to pop up every time a black person is getting discussed.

even more to the point, what does crime have to do with anything mentioned in this thread lol? the dude just loves to hate on black people.

[enayes]

This is definitely true especially regarding the surface modifications. Wimbledon, before the 2001 and 2008 (not sure about 08 but it happened some time around there) changes was a ridiculously fast surface favoring big servers and serve and volley guys. But, now its not as fun to watch and there's longer rallies, its like you're watching a clay court grindfest.

Nadal wouldn't have won Wimbledon or the US Open in the 90s or early 00s due to the faster surface. He wouldn't have beat Federer either. That's why Federer is so great. He's dominated both on the slower courts and the faster ones because he's so great at adjusting his game and beating guys at their own game.

Why do you think a guy like Andy Roddick did so well in the mid 00s? His huge serves paid off on those faster courts and he would have about 6-7 slams if it wasn't for Federer.

You put Sampras and Agassi in today's era, they would definitely have trouble cracking the top 3; Sampras more so than Andre because Agassi had a better all around game. But it's entirely due to the surface changes. Pete was never that successful on the slower courts because the slower bounces took away the impact of his serve and volley game and it showed in his results in French Open.

Pete would definitely get the better off Nadal and Djokovic in his own era though. No way can they deal with his serve on a fast court like Wimbly or USO.

It's pointless to compare the eras. Players are going to adapt to the surfaces of their time period, if Nadal played in the 90's he would be playing differently, and the same goes for Pete if he played today.

[The_Yearning]

i was talking about northwinds. he manages to pop up every time a black person is getting discussed.

even more to the point, what does crime have to do with anything mentioned in this thread lol? the dude just loves to hate on black people.

Lol hating on black people... are you an idiot?

Were trying to educate the masses on on what's wrong with them... c'mon brah you should of had the username al_sharpton instead...

[donald_trump]

Lol hating on black people... are you an idiot?

Were trying to educate the masses on on what's wrong with them... c'mon brah you should of had the username al_sharpton instead...

are you this boring away from the computer as well?

[The_Yearning]

^You mad?


Well let me educate you, genius. I live and work in the city surrounded by every color, religion, and nationality of people you can imagine. Now, in my experience whenever someone freaks out because they think someone might have brushed them while walking by or whenever someone is convinced that a person or group of people is talking about them (whether true or not) that person in question always looks like Serena Williams, and never like Andy Roddick........ Get it? I'm sorry, but I actually live in the real world and not on the stage of the Oprah Winfrey show. You're welcome.:rolleyes: