Recent Kobe-related ranting merged together (early Sept, 2011)

[pauk]

.... lebron basically played like GOD in the playoffs.... closing teams out left and right both ends of the floor....... being called GOAT already even by Jordans sidekick, Pippen himself..... all of the sudden came the Finals... and WHAM!! something dramatically changed......

..... so according to you....

basically the thought of "This is Finals!!!! Its final battle for the Championship!!!" made him choke up and go mentally numb... all his talent-skill-productions-domination just magically went away like that hurling in a corner and crying in fear..... breaking down right before our own eyes.......

he didnt break down at the thought of being the best player in the world... he exceeds it
he didnt break down at the thought of coming in to the league with the highest expectations ever... he exceeds the hype
he didnt break down in a hostile environment in cleveland and all the hate/insults/threats all over the place .... he exceeded it..
he didnt break down in the playoffs... he exceeded it
he didnt break down at the toughest moments ingame and of the court... he exceeds them..
he didnt break down as a teen dweeb winning championships in high school and being the first nationally televised high school game... he exceeded it


but the simple thought of... FINALS.... OUCH!... OH NO!! .... OH NO! FINALS.... MAMMMAAA!!!.... he simply just cant handle.... and loses all his magic... just like that....

basically it wouldnt even matter if it was Girls cheerleader team he would be playing against in the FINALS..... but still its the finals!! ITS TABBOO TO PLAY GOOD THERE!!! because he is that mentally weak of that THOUGHT......... finals...

right? :oldlol: :facepalm

my point is.... i just hope you see how pathetic you are...

[Ronaldinho]

.... lebron basically played like GOD in the playoffs.... closing teams out left and right both ends of the floor....... being called GOAT already even by Jordans sidekick, Pippen himself..... all of the sudden came the Finals... and WHAM!! something dramatically changed......

..... so according to you....

basically the thought of "This is Finals!!!! Its final battle for the Championship!!!" made him choke up and go mentally numb... all his talent-skill-productions-domination just magically went away like that hurling in a corner and crying in fear..... breaking down right before our own eyes.......

he didnt break down at the thought of being the best player in the world... he exceeds it
he didnt break down at the thought of coming in to the league with the highest expectations ever... he exceeds the hype
he didnt break down in a hostile environment in cleveland.... he exceeded it..
he didnt break down in the playoffs... he exceeded it

but the simple thought of... FINALS.... OUCH!... OH NO!! .... OH NO! FINALS.... MAMMMAAA!!!.... he simply just cant handle.... and loses all his magic... just like that....

basically it wouldnt even matter if it was Girls cheerleader team he would be playing against in the FINALS..... but still its the finals!! ITS TABBOO TO PLAY GOOD THERE!!! because he is that mentally weak of that THOUGHT......... finals...

right? :oldlol: :facepalm
Yes.Two times in a row.He cant live up to the big moment, he will be lucky to be as good as Karl Malone.

[kaiiu]

He had the most stacked teams the last 3 years. No rings

[pauk]

so basically he just spits and laughs at everything in life.... everything.....

then he figured out he is going to play in a series called THE FINALS (in deep scary horrorish voice) and he goes :

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af61/slimkillz19/gifs/1268944855914.gif

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Whats the confusion? It happened. Maybe it was his weak psyche. Maybe he was never as good as advertised in the first place. Maybe he is cursed and unlucky. Either way it happened.

Among LeBron's 21 playoff games in 2011, his GameScore in the Finals ranked

12th
14th
16th
17th
18th
21st

Among his 20 playoff games in 2007, his GameScore in the Finals ranked

13th
16th
19th
20th

LeBron James has put up a below average playoff performance EVERY SINGLE GAME OF THE FINALS.

[Tha Catalyst]

so basically he just spits and laughs at everything in life.... everything.....

then he figured out he is going to play in a series called THE FINALS (in deep scary horrorish voice) and he goes :

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/af61/slimkillz19/gifs/1268944855914.gif
Maybe he was not scared but he played terrible (for him) in the finals he has made. What is your point? Everybody accepts he has failed to meet expectations in the finals.

[Friday]

With high praise comes high crticism. It is simple.

[AlphaWolf24]

.... lebron basically played like GOD in the playoffs.... closing teams out left and right both ends of the floor....... being called GOAT already even by Jordans sidekick, Pippen himself..... all of the sudden came the Finals... and WHAM!! something dramatically changed......

..... so according to you....

basically the thought of "This is Finals!!!! Its final battle for the Championship!!!" made him choke up and go mentally numb... all his talent-skill-productions-domination just magically went away like that hurling in a corner and crying in fear..... breaking down right before our own eyes.......

he didnt break down at the thought of being the best player in the world... he exceeds it
he didnt break down at the thought of coming in to the league with the highest expectations ever... he exceeds the hype
he didnt break down in a hostile environment in cleveland and all the hate/insults/threats all over the place .... he exceeded it..
he didnt break down in the playoffs... he exceeded it
he didnt break down at the toughest moments ingame and of the court... he exceeds them..
he didnt break down as a teen dweeb winning championships in high school and being the first nationally televised high school game... he exceeded it


but the simple thought of... FINALS.... OUCH!... OH NO!! .... OH NO! FINALS.... MAMMMAAA!!!.... he simply just cant handle.... and loses all his magic... just like that....

basically it wouldnt even matter if it was Girls cheerleader team he would be playing against in the FINALS..... but still its the finals!! ITS TABBOO TO PLAY GOOD THERE!!! because he is that mentally weak of that THOUGHT......... finals...

right? :oldlol: :facepalm

my point is.... i just hope you see how pathetic you are...


http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2889000/AlphaWolf-2889642_429_339.jpg


MJ - "What the Pauk?"

[All Net]

:oldlol: dude let it go

Lebron failed, he let his team down and didn't perform when his team needed him most.

Doesn't mean he isn't still a great player or that he won't bounce back next season and do far better.

get a freaking grip.

[pauk]

u just dont get it...

there is no such thing as afraid.. crackin under pressure... choking... and so on... amongst the likes of Lebron & Kobe... Wade... look at me.. i hate Kobe more than anybody on this world.... but i would NEVER say/joke about him choking, crackin under pressure or some BS like that.... Lebron just like Kobe have more than proved the opposite more than enough in any situation.... there is no such thing amongst them......

the reason a player of that magnitude plays bad is combination of:

--bad offensive rythm
--playmaking to much/being passive/being unselfish to much
--the opponents team defense

and thats exactly why he was playing bad.... and exactly why even KOBE played bad/under his standards in some Finals or playoff series in his career (and lately the Mavs series sweep).........

and look at Wade... he had a horrible series against the Bulls.. while Lebron was brutalizing.... then it quickly changed against the Mavs series.... Wade got massive offensive rythm... and Lebron didnt.... its pretty god damn random......

its not because its just "FINALS".... "the biggest moment".... isnt the ECF big moment ? Why was Wade "choking" in that series then? Whats the difference... you lose ECF and you are out of playoffs... you lose Finals and you are out of Playoffs....

If WADE truly like many of you say plays better than Lebron during "the big moments", then why DIDNT HE do it in the ECF?

Its very simple....

--offensive rythm
--passiveness
--opponent defense

[Mr. Jabbar]

Oh no, some1 please unplug this guys computer...

[pauk]

Oh no, some1 please unplug this guys computer...

it is unplugged... its wireless... its a notebook... and im secretly hidden in a troll mansion of a cave.... so *** get me MFER! fear of teh almighty pauk eh? :oldlol:

[G-Funk]

I see OP's point. but we are criticizing Lebron with the Kobe standards. Kobe was the best player against the best teams in the west during his 3peat with Shaq. Until the Finals where Shaq had the chance to dominate some of the weakest, skinniest centers of all time. and yet his called 2nd fiddle.

[pauk]

I see OP's point. but we are criticizing Lebron with the Kobe standards. Kobe was the best player against the best teams in the west during his 3peat with Shaq. Until the Finals where Shaq had the chance to dominate some of the weakest, skinniest centers of all time. and yet his called 2nd fiddle.

what!!!?

[G-Funk]

what!!!?

Kobe was the best player on the court vs Portland, Kings, T-wolves, & Spurs

[RazorBaLade]

Your logic is absolutely ****ing mind numbing. Who the **** cares why it happened? He played atrocious in the finals, and theres this thing called a tipping point. Lebron's performances up to these finals that have been good (orlando, detroit, w/e) and his bad ones (spurs, bos, w/e else) have not been enough to gauge him. We needed something where there were no excuses. Where the situation was PERFECT. And what he did in that situation would tip the scales in how we look at each of his prior performances.

He got his perfect situation. He played horrible. It went from 0 bad lebron performances to 4 or 5, because its a tipping point. Thats what this year was, because his situation was perfect in the finals. If he had played spectacular, we'd forget what bad he might have done and we'd look at this series and all his previous good ones as unbelievable.

And even with all that said, may I ask what your trolling self thinks is the reason he was so awful in this perfect situation this year? Since its obviously not the mental pressure (apparently that doesn't exist? Well, it does, its called science and its proved that different events have different weights psychologically) what exactly was it, and why does it change the fact that he played awful in the perfect chance for him to show how he really is?


You're done.

[RazorBaLade]

I'm not gonna go google it for you but I can provide you a real world example of how a simple thing like pressure gives rise to second guessing and so on.

Pick something easy, say, writing 5 sentences about your love for lebron with perfect grammar and spelling. Do you think you can do that? probably. Would you proofread? probably not. I mean you already know how to spell and write, theres nothing you can do with it. So you submit it.

Imagine you would win one million dollars if you did it with no mistakes. Do you proof read it? Do you double and triple check? Why would you do that, you already know all you know, double checking is still using your original brain you used to write it.

But ah, you're not that confident about something when theres nearly your entire life riding on it. Now imagine you're on the basketball court and you cannot turn the ball over. Like seriously, they are gonna ****ing score and everyones gonna blame you. Do you take an extra moment to think about whether or not you should pass? What if you start taking extra moments to think about whether or not you want to run left or right, to take the screen or not, to shoot off the glass or to take a timeout? Thats how you go from scoring 28ppg to 17. Thats just ONE of the real world effects of pressure - second guessing yourself.

You might say you're not a professional linguist and hes a professional bball player, but its the same thing. You both know that thinking about something twice is not going to make you better at it, youre as good as you're gonna be at it. But you just have to make sure, because you CANT mess up. But thats what pressure does, it makes you second guess everything you do because everything you do now means more.

Do you think its an accident that people shoot like 30% in gw situations but 50% in the rest of the game? Lebron cracked.

stay in school brah

[Trigg]

Might as well rename this forum InsideKobe or InsideLebron, as that seems to be all people want to talk about.

[pauk]

holy mother of u madness mr razorblade..

[RazorBaLade]

holy mother of u madness mr razorblade..

I post here like 3 or 4 times a week, I make up for it with word count tho!

[ShaqAttack3234]

I see OP's point. but we are criticizing Lebron with the Kobe standards. Kobe was the best player against the best teams in the west during his 3peat with Shaq. Until the Finals where Shaq had the chance to dominate some of the weakest, skinniest centers of all time. and yet his called 2nd fiddle.

Mutombo? Nevermind the fact that Shaq received more defensive attention most of the time.


Kobe was the best player on the court vs Portland, Kings, T-wolves, & Spurs

:facepalm Kobe was only the best player on the court during the 2001 and 2002 Spurs series, :oldlol: at you mentioning all of those other series.

You do realize that the finals were also far from the only dominant series that Shaq had during the 3peat, right?

During the 2001 WCSF vs Sacramento, after Shaq had back to back 40/20 games, it was stated that he was the first player in NBA history to do so in the playoffs.

[QuebecBaller]

Why the LeBron's lovers can't accept that many fans like kobe?

Why Kobe's fans can't accept there's some LeBron's lovers?

[AlphaWolf24]

I see OP's point. but we are criticizing Lebron with the Kobe standards. Kobe was the best player against the best teams in the west during his 3peat with Shaq. Until the Finals where Shaq had the chance to dominate some of the weakest, skinniest centers of all time. and yet his called 2nd fiddle.


this..

00' Kobe was coming into his own and was by far the best player in the WCFinals...especially game 7 when he fueled the comeback.

by 01' most of the basketball comunity were calling him the best allaround player in the NBA..and in the WCFinals he single handily carried the Lakers past the spurs...leading many to call him the "best player in the world" (Shaq and PJ echoed these statements)

No matter who tries to detract from what really happened...by 01' Kobe was the best allaround player in the league....

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

u just dont get it...

there is no such thing as afraid.. crackin under pressure... choking... and so on... amongst the likes of Lebron & Kobe... Wade... look at me.. i hate Kobe more than anybody on this world.... but i would NEVER say/joke about him choking, crackin under pressure or some BS like that.... Lebron just like Kobe have more than proved the opposite more than enough in any situation.... there is no such thing amongst them......

the reason a player of that magnitude plays bad is combination of:

--bad offensive rythm
--playmaking to much/being passive/being unselfish to much
--the opponents team defense

and thats exactly why he was playing bad.... and exactly why even KOBE played bad/under his standards in some Finals or playoff series in his career (and lately the Mavs series sweep).........

and look at Wade... he had a horrible series against the Bulls.. while Lebron was brutalizing.... then it quickly changed against the Mavs series.... Wade got massive offensive rythm... and Lebron didnt.... its pretty god damn random......

its not because its just "FINALS".... "the biggest moment".... isnt the ECF big moment ? Why was Wade "choking" in that series then? Whats the difference... you lose ECF and you are out of playoffs... you lose Finals and you are out of Playoffs....

If WADE truly like many of you say plays better than Lebron during "the big moments", then why DIDNT HE do it in the ECF?

Its very simple....

--offensive rythm
--passiveness
--opponent defense
yes, you would

[TheLogo]

I don't know.

With all the accomplishments he has achieved, I don't know why people don't consider him one of the future Co-GOAT. It will depend what Kobe does for the rest of his career.

I guess it depends on what the Mamba does.

[Odinn]

What an unexpected thread.:applause:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Nick Young]

81 points, didnt need to take 100 shots to get 100 points like wilt.

5 rings

MVP:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

2x Finals MVP:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[LBJDWADE63]

5 rings
2 finals mvp:lol :lol :lol :roll: :roll:

[creepingdeath]

Someone longc4t the sh*t out of this thread.

[ThaSwagg3r]

5 rings
2 finals mvp:lol :lol :lol :roll: :roll:
How many does LeBron have?



81 points, didnt need to take 100 shots to get 100 points like wilt.

Wilt took 63 shots to get it, not 100.

[Mr. Jabbar]

well, he is.

[The_Yearning]

How many does LeBron have?




Wilt took 63 shots to get it, not 100.

Nobody was guarding Wilt... and Wilt shot like 50 free throws that game missing more than half of them.

[ThaSwagg3r]

Nobody was guarding Wilt... and Wilt shot like 50 free throws that game missing more than half of them.
Even though I know everyone in this thread is trolling, he was 28-32 from the line that game.

[Odinn]

Nobody was guarding Wilt... and Wilt shot like 50 free throws that game missing more than half of them.
Not true.

Wilt tried 32 free throws and made 28 of them.
Kobe tried 20 free throws and made 18 of them.

Wilt; 36/63 from the field.
Kobe; 28/46 from the field.

Also claiming no defense on Wilt?:roll: Yeaaa, that Toronto team put the all pressure they all got.:roll:

[Sawbucks23]

Nick Young answered his own question. 5 rings but only 2 NBA Finals MVP. Kobe is close to being a top ten all time player and I'm not sure why people can't leave it at that. The 81 point was a great performance by Kobe but we can't determine one's career on one game. Yes Kobe is not the GOAT but why should we care if he is or not. He's a future hall of famer and is having a great NBA career.

[chips93]

freak athletically, great range, great defense?

what cant pietrus do?

once a gm realizes how talented he is and trusts him, then he will own the league until he retires

[artificial]

Joradn? Is that like a colored Borat or something?

[millwad]

freak athletically, great range, great defense?

what cant pietrus do?

once a gm realizes how talented he is and trusts him, then he will own the league until he retires

Oh, the buttlicking Jlauber-troll strikes again!

[Nick Young]

Not true.

Wilt tried 32 free throws and made 28 of them.
Kobe tried 20 free throws and made 18 of them.

Wilt; 36/63 from the field.
Kobe; 28/46 from the field.

Also claiming no defense on Wilt?:roll: Yeaaa, that Toronto team put the all pressure they all got.:roll:
lol if Kobe took 17 more shots that's atleast 20 more points from Kobe meaning 101 points.

Also Kobe is a perimeter player, Wilt plays down low.

Kobe just decided to not be a ballhog chucker and get his teammates involved, seriously 63 shots that performance should be lauded, not applauded, what a ballhog.

[Nick Young]

One word.

Bean


also he played in a weak Era compared to Kobe's era having to go up against DUNCAN:bowdown:
KIDD:bowdown:
KG:bowdown:
T-MAC:bowdown:
YAO:bowdown:
AI:bowdown:
REGGIE:bowdown:
SHEED:bowdown:
DWIGHT:bowdown:

and countless other titans of the game

I mean, even young Kobe put up 60 against Jordan in his face

[sipitri]

..

[kaiiu]

Theres a man by the name of Bean Bryant.

[Boston C's]

lol if Kobe took 17 more shots that's atleast 20 more points from Kobe meaning 101 points.

Also Kobe is a perimeter player, Wilt plays down low.

Kobe just decided to not be a ballhog chucker and get his teammates involved, seriously 63 shots that performance should be lauded, not applauded, what a ballhog.

If my memory serves me correctly I dont think kobe registered a single assist that game....

[chips93]

Oh, the buttlicking Jlauber-troll strikes again!


excuse me? who are you? i dont think ive gotten into more than one or two discussions with jlauber.

[kaiiu]

what dumbass said he wasnt GOAT?

[Boston C's]

He is considered the goat by like 90 percent of the basketball world... ppl in GOAT discussions are as follows

M.J, Wilt, Kareem, Russell, and Magic

[Boston C's]

Many reasons:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmpkeciHcG1qfsfo1.jpg
http://www.oread.ku.edu/Oread98/OreadJan23/page4/wilt.GIF
http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/lewalcindor.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00438/news-graphics-2008-_438863a.jpg
http://www.4sportboston.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/larry_bird_2.jpg
http://thefabempire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/shaquille-o-neal-picture-4.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DvmGo-T8ZDA/TYkF_TecERI/AAAAAAAAArU/nS7j8X7zzwU/s1600/timduncan.jpg
http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/PHO/AAFC027.jpg
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en_fuego/files/2010/05/hakeem-olajuwon.jpg
http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slideshows/537/slideshow_53754/display_image.jpg?x=300914


lmao perfect response :applause:

[Heavincent]

RRR3 used to seem a little less retarded before he said Dirk doesn't even have a case for the best player in the league. :oldlol:

And ****ing lol at putting Oscar above Kobe.

[Heavincent]

He doesn't. And I'm not saying that because of LBJ. Even if LBJ is the worst player ever, Wade and D12 are still clearly better than Dirk.

I wonder why Dirk was way better in the playoffs then. Wade sucked in the ECF and played poorly down the stretch in some of those games in the Finals.

And Dwight was one-and-done in the playoffs.

[Grinder]

Can't dribble, poor decision making, poor passer, mediocre shooter when he doesn't have his feet set

[Heavincent]

Wade was the best player on either team in the finals.

:oldlol:

Dirk played WAY better down the stretch when the game was on the line while the Heat had one of the biggest fourth quarter collapses in NBA playoff history. Wade didn't do shit then.

[chips93]

Can't dribble, poor decision making, poor passer, mediocre shooter when he doesn't have his feet set

. . . well apart from those things, why cant he be the goat?

his intangibles are off-the-wall amazing

[Boston C's]

I've never seen Magic called the GOAT...but the other 4 yeah. They're all legends, but I think MJ has to be the GOAT if you look at everything he did.

Yea out of those five he doesn't really get called GOAT or have even as strong a case as those 4 but I've seen ppl legit believe Magic is the GOAT and if anything hes at least on the same tier as those players

[ThaSwagg3r]

What the hell does "down the stretch" mean? The 4th quarter? LOL a point in the first quarter is equally as valuable as a point in the 4th. And I didn't realize it was Wade's fault LBJ and Bosh didn't play up to their standards...Who was the Wade's second option in a lot of those games? Mario Chalmers?
:rolleyes:

Let me quote something Kblaze said....


If you are gonna bring it all down to "I dont care how you play or if I can depend on you when it matters...long as you produce for me" then there is no point to this. If you want a nice looking box score more than to be able to depend on your players when you need them most then we just see sports very differently.

Id take 12 points I can count on in the 4th over 12 I can count on in the first....people will say its the same 12 points....but I bet I win 70 games and the title. The later you perform and the less time the opposition has to recover the more likely you are to win. So I want the guy who can get it done when I give him the ball late. With so muhc else being equal or in the other guys favor(Karl wasnt a special defender or rebounder among the ranks of best 4s) it makes it a pretty easy decision.

[Heavincent]

What the hell does "down the stretch" mean? The 4th quarter? LOL a point in the first quarter is equally as valuable as a point in the 4th. And I didn't realize it was Wade's fault LBJ and Bosh didn't play up to their standards...Who was the Wade's second option in a lot of those games? Mario Chalmers?

You're avoiding my point about how Wade played poorly in late-game situations.

Of course Lebron played like shit. Anyone with half a brain knows that.

Bosh was actually the best fourth quarter performer out of everyone on the Heat :oldlol: I remember he hit a huge shot in one of those games that sealed it for them.

And you seriously don't know what the term "down the stretch" means? How long have you been following sports for?

[imlmf]

LOL find me one person who isn't a kobe cack licker that don't think MJ is the GOAT

that's right, you can't

now go back to licking kome's balls

[Warriors fan]

He is considered the goat by like 90 percent of the basketball world... ppl in GOAT discussions are as follows

M.J, Wilt, Kareem, Russell, and Magic
Bird Duncan Kobe Shaq Hakeem should be up there in GOAT discussions too

[Boston C's]

True enough. I've seen people legit think Kobe was GOAT (a lot on this board in fact) and that's way worse.

True but those ppl don't have arguments for kobe all they say is KOBE 81 or KOBE 5 RINGS U MAD... its only the kobe stans and its really annoying, you can't have any discussion with kobe stans because all they say is U MAD... which for every thread you should post that picture that you have been puttin up lately :lol

[Rowe]

. . . well apart from those things, why cant he be the goat?

his intangibles are off-the-wall amazing
Its because he doesnt play in the Euroleague.

[Heavincent]

You realize you're arguing against Wade, right? :oldlol:

Probably because he's logical. Just because he's a Wade fan doesn't mean he has to constantly defend him. I'm a Kobe fan, and I've insulted him for the 04 Finals.

[ThaSwagg3r]

You realize you're arguing against Wade, right? :oldlol:
I don't have a problem with one saying Dirk was the best player in the playoffs or the best player in the league. My problem is some moron arguing LeBron is better than Wade like some headless chicken like yourself.

[UwishUhadWall]

You know, I have nothing against Kobe. He's clearly a great player. One of the greatest of all time. But the insistence of his fans to try to put him on MJ's level is beyond annoying. Just accept MJ is the best and get over it. Be happy that Kobe is the best of his generation. And I hate MJ.

It kinda reminds me of Wayne fans who think he's one of the best ever. It's nothing but plain ignorance. Ignorance of history and ignorant of how their personal bias affects their judgement.

[ThaSwagg3r]

I'm not arguing about LeBron right now, you moron.
I'm just telling you I don't have a problem arguing against Wade in this situation since you are dead wrong......like the usual.

1st quarter scoring = 4th quarter scoring?

http://oi55.tinypic.com/34g3fk0.jpg

[PTB Fan]

He's universally claimed to be as the GOAT...

[PTB Fan]

Many reasons:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmpkeciHcG1qfsfo1.jpg
http://www.oread.ku.edu/Oread98/OreadJan23/page4/wilt.GIF
http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/lewalcindor.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00438/news-graphics-2008-_438863a.jpg
http://www.4sportboston.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/larry_bird_2.jpg
http://thefabempire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/shaquille-o-neal-picture-4.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DvmGo-T8ZDA/TYkF_TecERI/AAAAAAAAArU/nS7j8X7zzwU/s1600/timduncan.jpg
http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/PHO/AAFC027.jpg
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en_fuego/files/2010/05/hakeem-olajuwon.jpg
http://www.peoplequiz.com/images/bios/bill-russell.jpg-2348.jpg

Add in Baylor, West, Dr J and i think one more guy too...

Kobe's case will get better when he retires

[0000000]

His GOAT standing is about as good as your sense of humor.

[ThaSwagg3r]

2 points=2 points. 3 points=3 points. You don't magically get a 5 pointer if you make a shot in the 4th.
:facepalm You clearly didn't read what I quoted from Kblaze.....especially this part.


The later you perform and the less time the opposition has to recover the more likely you are to win.


If you are gonna bring it all down to "I dont care how you play or if I can depend on you when it matters...long as you produce for me" then there is no point to this. If you want a nice looking box score more than to be able to depend on your players when you need them most then we just see sports very differently.

Id take 12 points I can count on in the 4th over 12 I can count on in the first....people will say its the same 12 points....but I bet I win 70 games and the title. The later you perform and the less time the opposition has to recover the more likely you are to win. So I want the guy who can get it done when I give him the ball late. With so muhc else being equal or in the other guys favor(Karl wasnt a special defender or rebounder among the ranks of best 4s) it makes it a pretty easy decision.

[Heavincent]

I know what down the stretch means, you moron. I just find it to be a stupid argument in general. Here is an article debunking "clutchness" in baseball. http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2656 Obviously it's a different sport, but many of the same things are true in basketball. If you get a large lead in the 1st quarter, you're less likely to have to need "clutch" shots in the 4th.

What a ****ing crock of shit.

It's the playoffs. You think every game is just going to be a blowout? The teams are always close in terms of personnel. Close games are unavoidable in the playoffs. They're going to happen (even if you play well through three quarters). It's not that hard of a concept to grasp.

[Heavincent]

:facepalm You clearly didn't read what I quoted from Kblaze.....especially this part.

I'm baffled that he doesn't understand this concept. It's not hard to grasp.

[Heavincent]

I'm aware of that. That's true, but that's assuming the game is close, which means you haven't been dominating up until that point. I never got the idea of a player magically becoming better in the 4th quarter. That doesn't make any sense. Certainly it is harder for the other team to come back, but why would any player half ass it and then step it up in the 4th assuming the game is close? I'd rather have a guy who plays hard the whole game, wouldn't you? I'm not saying 4th quarter points aren't important, but I am saying I reject the idea that certain players become better in the 4th quarter. How the **** does that work? Because they have the "clutch gene"? That is not a logical argument, that's attributing magical skills to players.

How many times do I have to tell you this: It's the playoffs, where most teams are somewhat even in terms of personnel. Even if you play well though the first three quarters, you still might find yourself in a close game because you're going up against very good competition.

[Boston C's]

You mean the "hurr durr" picture? LOL I love that. Mad props to omnistrife for making it. As soon as the Heat win a ring, I'm making one with LBJ saying "U mad?". Heh.

lmao yea the hur dur picture... i get a kick out of it every time you post it cuz it gets kobe stans so pissed

[Boston C's]

You know, I have nothing against Kobe. He's clearly a great player. One of the greatest of all time. But the insistence of his fans to try to put him on MJ's level is beyond annoying. Just accept MJ is the best and get over it. Be happy that Kobe is the best of his generation. And I hate MJ.

It kinda reminds me of Wayne fans who think he's one of the best ever. It's nothing but plain ignorance. Ignorance of history and ignorant of how their personal bias affects their judgement.

you nailed it right on the head here... kobe is lil wayne while Jordan, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, Russell, Bird, etc are Tupac, Biggie, Big L, Nas, Jay Z, Rakim, KRS-One... and you get my point lol

[Heavincent]

Okay? If you play well for all 4 quarters, you have done all you can. Sure you better bring it in the 4th if it is close after 3 (you should play hard period, though) but if the game is close going into the 4th, that means you most likely have done well for 3 quarters. If you don't play the first 3 quarters hard, the game won't be close and you won't be able to be "clutch". Sure the 4th quarter is the "sexiest" quarter and the one where there is less time to come back in, but you have to play well for the first 3 quarters to make the 4th quarter important.

None of this refutes my argument. You're just stating blatantly obvious facts.

[Boston C's]

Don't forget Big Pun.

Cant forget about him... also liked big daddy kane... just didn't feel like listing every great rapper thats better then lil wayne because theres a lot :lol

[Heavincent]

:facepalm Yeah, what if you don't? The first three quarters are important too. The game won't be close if you don't play hard all game. You don't just half-ass it until the 4th.

http://memedepot.com/uploads/0/414_captain_obvious.jpg

[Boston C's]

They are so annoying, man. And they think if we don't agree with them we're automatically "haters". SMFH

Exactly and its so annoying

[ThaSwagg3r]

I'm aware of that. That's true, but that's assuming the game is close, which means you haven't been dominating up until that point. I never got the idea of a player magically becoming better in the 4th quarter. That doesn't make any sense. Certainly it is harder for the other team to come back, but why would any player half ass it and then step it up in the 4th assuming the game is close? I'd rather have a guy who plays hard the whole game, wouldn't you? I'm not saying 4th quarter points aren't important, but I am saying I reject the idea that certain players become better in the 4th quarter. How the **** does that work? Because they have the "clutch gene"? That is not a logical argument, that's attributing magical skills to players.
Do you even remember your original argument? :facepalm


What the hell does "down the stretch" mean? The 4th quarter? LOL a point in the first quarter is equally as valuable as a point in the 4th. And I didn't realize it was Wade's fault LBJ and Bosh didn't play up to their standards...Who was the Wade's second option in a lot of those games? Mario Chalmers?

What are you even trying to argue right now? Because you switch arguments after every post you have been refuted.

[SSSTRESSS]

CLASS A

http://www.thepostersshop.com/Portals/0/Imagenes/TPS37.jpg

http://www.gambling911.com/files/publisher/Kobe-Bryant-060109H_1.jpg

CLASS B

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2011/02/14/65217-dominique-wilkins.jpg

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/media/sites/tampabay.com.blogs.media/files/images/typepad-legacy-files/52633.6a00d83451b05569e20133f227418f970b-pi.jpg

http://www.seriousland.com/Shawn%20Kemp%20dunking.jpg

Tired of this board's juvenile comparison of Lebron vs Kobe. They are not even in the same class. There is a difference between true champions and highlight reel leaders. Lebron may be the so called "King" but I'm not even sure if he is the King of Class B. Comparing Lebron to Kobe is liking comparing Dominique or Kemp to Jordan back in the day. Not even in the same class. Ridiculous.

[PTB Fan]

LeBron is and should be compared with the best ever... same as Kobe. They are ahead of Dominique and Kemp.

Kobe's case for the GOAT honor will get better when he retires. LeBron is making his own but he still has a long way to get serious consideration..

[ThaSwagg3r]

Way to go back to earlier posts. :rolleyes: And my original argument remains the same: how is the 4th quarter more important than any other quarters? I realize that there is less time to come back, but if you dunk in the 1st it's worth 2 points, just like a dunk in the 4th. The second part of my argument is that it is illogical to claim that certain players are inherently better in the 4th quarter for supposed "intangibles".
Third time I am referencing to this post....


The later you perform and the less time the opposition has to recover the more likely you are to win.


If you are gonna bring it all down to "I dont care how you play or if I can depend on you when it matters...long as you produce for me" then there is no point to this. If you want a nice looking box score more than to be able to depend on your players when you need them most then we just see sports very differently.

Id take 12 points I can count on in the 4th over 12 I can count on in the first....people will say its the same 12 points....but I bet I win 70 games and the title. The later you perform and the less time the opposition has to recover the more likely you are to win. So I want the guy who can get it done when I give him the ball late. With so muhc else being equal or in the other guys favor(Karl wasnt a special defender or rebounder among the ranks of best 4s) it makes it a pretty easy decision.


So no, the 1st quarter is not the same as the 4th quarter, nor is the 2nd quarter, and nor is the 3rd quarter.


I must say it is entertaining watching you try to dance around the argument like that.

[PTB Fan]

Bird Duncan Kobe Shaq Hakeem should be up there in GOAT discussions too

I'd also add West and Baylor..

[Heavincent]

So how is the 4th more imporant than the other 3 quarters if you have to play well in those quarters for the 4th quarter to matter? Regardless, let's assume the 4th quarter is more important the other 3. Why would any player magically get better in the 4th quarter? You look at supposed 4th quarter legends such as Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant. These players are already considered great...Most of the so-called "big time 4th quarter performers" are identical to the players considered the best in the league. There is no strong or consistent evidence that supports the view that great players become better in the 4th quarter.

Okay, so when do you think a three pointer has more importance: when the game is tied at 2 in the first quarter or when the game is tied at 88 with a minute remaining in the fourth quarter?

[ThaSwagg3r]

I'm not dancing around shit. You don't need to resort to mockery to win an argument. And if a player plays great in the first 3 quarter in almost every game, he is most likely just a great player in general and is going to generally have a great 4th quarter. Plus...http://www.backpicks.com/2011/06/17/late-game-bias-when-some-points-count-more/
So you have changed your argument from 1st quarter scoring = 4th quarter scoring to 1st 3 quarters of scoring > 4th quarter scoring. :applause: Nice....


Talk to me when you have a real argument because I don't understand what you're trying to argue at all but it is probably wrong anyways.....like 99% of your posts.

[Heavincent]

Did you read the article at all? Or are you just going to ignore it? I don't think the article is infallible, because numbers don't always tell you the whole story, but it is worth taking into consideration. This is a nonbiased article IMO, it's not addressing particular teams or players.

Well neither I or Swagger ever said that the first three quarters aren't important. You're desperately holding on to a statement that I never disagreed with.

The fourth quarter holds more importance though. Like I asked you before: Which shot is more important: a three pointer made in the first quarter when the game is tied or a three pointer made in the fourth quarter with a minute remaining when the game is tied?

[MeLO MvP 15]

He's a great spot up shooter and a good defender. The perfect role player. But he can't really create his own shot or do much else. I'd gladly take him on the Knicks... shooting and defense are exactly what we need at the SG position.

[TheLogo]

Those that say mj is universally goat are not basketball fans. I have friends that hate basketball but they say he is goat. It's for the simple minded peeps who don't know basketball.

Real fans can make a casebfor why he is not.

There are a lot of she eps on here...more than I expected.

[PTB Fan]

Those that say mj is universally goat are not basketball fans. I have friends that hate basketball but they say he is goat. It's for the simple minded peeps who don't know basketball.

Real fans can make a casebfor why he is not.

There are a lot of she eps on here...more than I expected.

Michael Jordan's greatness is the fact that a six year old can say he's the GOAT and he doesn't even know a thing about him... i personally think an argument can be made for 10 other players as well but in most cases, MJ dominates the poles

[Heavincent]

Read the article. All points are important. No shot is worth more than another if we're just talking logically.

Great, now this quote has to be used, yet again:

"The later you perform well, the less time the opponent has to recover."

Lets use an example that supports my argument: Giants vs Eagles last season (week 15 I believe). The Giants played extremely well for the first three quarters while the Eagles played like shit. Then the Eagles played really well in the fourth quarter and the Giants sucked in the fourth quarter. Who won the game? The Eagles did. It shows how three quarters of playing like shit can be completely overwritten in the fourth quarter. Having a spectacular fourth quarter > Having a spectacular first quarter.

[Dwade305]

Long arms, perfect height, wet shot, athleticsm, fresh cuts, clutch............What gives?

[Heavincent]

One game does not prove anything. You're overgeneralizing. Neither of us are going to convince the other that he is wrong, so why don't we agree to disagree?

Yes it does. There have been plenty of instances where a team doesn't play very well for the first three quarters and then plays really well in the fourth to overwrite their poor performance in the first three quarters and win the game.

Fair enough.

[LBJDWADE63]

How many does LeBron have?




Wilt took 63 shots to get it, not 100.

Stfu idiot.

We are not talking about LeBron here.

[ThaSwagg3r]

Yes it does. There have been plenty of instances where a team doesn't play very well for the first three quarters and then plays really well in the fourth to overwrite their poor performance in the first three quarters and win the game.

Fair enough.
That was pretty much the entire 2011 NBA Finals. The only games where the Mavericks outplayed the Heat the 1st 3 quarters was in Game 6 and 5. Every other game the Heat pretty much outplayed them the first 3 quarters. Mavericks pretty much dominated the Heat in all of the 4th quarters except Game 1 and I guess you could say Game 3.

[DMV2]

How come TheLogo is such a f-gg-t?

[DuMa]

1 Mvp Lol

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Because he played with Shaq for the first half of his career

[Nick Young]

Many reasons:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmpkeciHcG1qfsfo1.jpg
http://www.oread.ku.edu/Oread98/OreadJan23/page4/wilt.GIF
http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/lewalcindor.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00438/news-graphics-2008-_438863a.jpg
http://www.4sportboston.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/larry_bird_2.jpg
http://thefabempire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/shaquille-o-neal-picture-4.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DvmGo-T8ZDA/TYkF_TecERI/AAAAAAAAArU/nS7j8X7zzwU/s1600/timduncan.jpg
http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/PHO/AAFC027.jpg
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/en_fuego/files/2010/05/hakeem-olajuwon.jpg
http://www.peoplequiz.com/images/bios/bill-russell.jpg-2348.jpg
LAWL
Kobe has more rings than all of them except Russell who played in a weak era and today would be the same as Joel Anthony, and Kareem who Magic need to carry to like 4 of his rings and Jordan lol the same Jordan who young Kobe dropped 60 on as he cried on the bench in disgrace ROFLBERRY PWNCAKES

[zay_24]

Kobe is the GOAT

The best scorer the game has ever seen.
Will retire with more defensive teams than anyone who ever played the game:bowdown:
Only missed the playoffs once in his career, and he was injured
More clutch shots than the so called "greatest clutch shooter alltime"
Dropped 60 on jordan
Most rebounds by a G in a NBA finals game ever

[DMV2]

Well, Kobe needs to crack the Top 10 All-Time list first before being considered the GOAT.

[zay_24]

Didnt this negga MJ shoot under 20% from the 3 point like FIVE times, :roll: what kinda SG does that?

Dont forget that this scrub needed overtime to score 69 points, while the GOAT dropped 62 points on a team that made the FINALS in 3 quarters:bowdown:

Oh yea, kobe has more defensive teams than him as well

[zay_24]

Well, Kobe needs to crack the Top 10 All-Time list first before being considered the GOAT.
Name 10 players better than Kobe:facepalm

[AlphaWolf24]

Many reasons:
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmpkeciHcG1qfsfo1.jpg
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2173000/AlphaWolf-2173777_597_582.jpg
http://www.oread.ku.edu/Oread98/OreadJan23/page4/wilt.GIF
http://www.sportsgrindent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/lewalcindor.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00438/news-graphics-2008-_438863a.jpg
http://www.4sportboston.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/larry_bird_2.jpg
http://thefabempire.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/shaquille-o-neal-picture-4.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-DvmGo-T8ZDA/TYkF_TecERI/AAAAAAAAArU/nS7j8X7zzwU/s1600/timduncan.jpg
http://www.allposters.com/IMAGES/PHO/AAFC027.jpg


Fixed
:roll: @ Bird,Oscar , Duncan and Shaq...you guy's are silly.

[The-Legend-24]

Because of this man:

http://images.pictureshunt.com/pics/k/kobe_bryant-4336.jpg

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: We ain't worthy :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[The-Legend-24]

Why couldn't he stop Kobe "Da Gawd" Bryant from dropping 55 points?

:bowdown: :bowdown:

[Nick Young]

Seriously Kobe schooled Jordan in the allstar game and dropped 60 on him in the regular season, why is it even a discussion that Jordan is better than Kobe, Kobe would beat Jordan 1v1 any day of the weak, Jordan only has more rings and MVPs because Jordan has had better teammates throughout his career. Kobe played with guys like Radmonovic Medvedenko SMush Parker and Kwame Brown and Jordan had guys like Scottie Pippen, Toni Kukoc, Dennis Rodman and Steve Kerr. Not to mention Jordan had Prime Jackson whereas Kobe only had Stoned Jackson and honestly had to do most of the coaching himself.

[DMV2]

Name 10 players better than Kobe:facepalm
Jordan, Chamberlain, Russell, Abdul-Jabbar, Magic, Bird, Shaq, Duncan, Hakeem, West, Robertson, Cousy, etc.

[zay_24]

Kobe held a PRIME allen iverson(who won 4 scoring titles) to ZERO points.

Shoutout to the real GOAT perimeter defender BEAN:bowdown:

[iamgine]

troll thread alert :banana:

[The-Legend-24]

Seriously Kobe schooled Jordan in the allstar game and dropped 60 on him in the regular season, why is it even a discussion that Jordan is better than Kobe, Kobe would beat Jordan 1v1 any day of the weak, Jordan only has more rings and MVPs because Jordan has had better teammates throughout his career. Kobe played with guys like Radmonovic Medvedenko SMush Parker and Kwame Brown and Jordan had guys like Scottie Pippen, Toni Kukoc, Dennis Rodman and Steve Kerr. Not to mention Jordan had Prime Jackson whereas Kobe only had Stoned Jackson and honestly had to do most of the coaching himself.
That nigguh didn't coach shit, he just sat there like a fvcking statue.

Kobe..:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[AlphaWolf24]

It was 55....



But yeah....


Oh yeah..MJ stans will say MJ was just "too old"...



when 19 year old Kobe Dropped 30 Points on prime MJ and Pip in 20 minutes was Kobe "too young" ?????









INB4 Handchecking...

[G-Funk]

because he was waaay pass his prime! besides hand checking was illegal, so it would had made it even more difficult even if he was in his prime.

[Nick Young]

Not to mention in the 2010 finals Kobe shut down Ray Allen, the greatest shooter of all time over 7 games, and he shut down Reggie Miller in game 1 of the 2000 finals giving the second greatestest shooter of all time the bi*ch slap of 1-16.

And on the other end he lit up what is believed to be the best perimeter defender of all time Scottie Pippen for 25 game changing points in game 7 of the 2000 conference finals:bowdown:

[The-Legend-24]

Kobe held a PRIME allen iverson(who won 4 scoring titles) to ZERO points.

Shoutout to the real GOAT perimeter defender BEAN:bowdown:
That bald nigguh was guarding John starks. :lol

While Kobe has to guard Wade and Letravel..

:applause:

[zay_24]

Jordan's defense was definitely overrated to a certain extent. The Bulls were never recognized as a good defensive team during Jordan's first couple of years with the team. It wasn't until they acquired Grant and Pippen that Jordan even MADE the all-defense team.

Jordan made guys better? Like who?

Horace Grant played 17 years in the NBA. B.J. Armstrong played 11 years in the NBA... the ONLY time EITHER of these guys EVER made the all star team was 1994... the year Jordan was retired. Pippen got BOTH of these guys to an all star game.

[AlphaWolf24]

too old....:confusedshrug:


(looks at Kobe droppin 30 points on him and Pippen back in the 98' when Kobe barely played)....


nevermind


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my thoughts

[Nick Young]

Look at Reggie Miller always lighting Jordan up whereas when he ran into Kobe he put up the worst shooting performance in NBA finals history. BLACK MAMBA STRIKES AGAIN:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[SunsCaptain]

Trolling and ruining the boards?

Very immature. You wonder why you guys earn yourselves so many haters...Most annoying fan base... :facepalm

[SuperPippen]

This thread has now become an official Kobe-stan circle jerk.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vFkd94AA0vk/Tip9g3uzKkI/AAAAAAAABYM/lCqSVacOUsk/s1600/kobe-bryant-allen-hold-butts-gay-nba-funny-photos.jpg

Go ahead, start pleasuring yourselves while imagining that you're in Ray Allen's place.

Don't worry, nobody's going to judge you.

[InspiredLebowski]

Because only one person can ban people.

[zay_24]

Haters gonna hate:lol

[SteveNashMVPcro]

Trolling and ruining the boards?

Very immature. You wonder why you guys earn yourselves so many haters...Most annoying fan base... :facepalm
Let's become Nash trolls and fight against them:lol

[SunsCaptain]

Let's become Nash trolls and fight against them:lol

lol, Why isnt Steve Nash GOAT?!

[G-Funk]

Nash trolls??? LMAO, I remember them in 07 lol

[Nick Young]

Trolling and ruining the boards?

Very immature. You wonder why you guys earn yourselves so many haters...Most annoying fan base... :facepalm
Lol u mad you have the most undeserved MVP in NBA history on your team, the only multiple time MVP to never even come close to the finals?:lol

You mad you tried to build a title team for five years with Amare as your defensive anchor?:lol

You mad that despite having the most stacked roster in the league at the time you still couldn't get past the WCF?

[Nick Young]

lol, Why isnt Steve Nash GOAT?!
Because he's a cry baby, stole MVPs from players who deserved them more and is the only multi-time MVP winner to never even play in the finals, that's why

[SunsCaptain]

Sigh Kobe fans are disgusting :rolleyes:

[Nick Young]

Sigh Kobe fans are disgusting :rolleyes:
Didn't it also take you 7 games to get past a team with Kwame Brown, Smush Parker and Luke Walton starting? Your team is pathetic, just gtfo man be glad with the two fluke playoff victories Kobe DA GAWD gifted to you and go back to the NBA basement where you belong with other do-nothing teams like the Bucks and Bobcats.

[SuperPippen]

Didnt this negga MJ shoot under 20% from the 3 point like FIVE times, :roll: what kinda SG does that?

Dont forget that this scrub needed overtime to score 69 points, while the GOAT dropped 62 points on a team that made the FINALS in 3 quarters:bowdown:

Oh yea, kobe has more defensive teams than him as well

Who the hell needs to be a great 3-point shooter when you can score so efficiently from inside the 3-point line?:oldlol:

BTW, in every one of MJ's seasons when he attempted at least three 3's per game, he never shot lower than 35%.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Look at Reggie Miller always lighting Jordan up whereas when he ran into Kobe he put up the worst shooting performance in NBA finals history. BLACK MAMBA STRIKES AGAIN:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

You mean Ron Harper. :D

Then again, who actually guarded who doesn't mean much to you guys otherwise you'd bring up the documented fact that Jordan wasn't guarding Kobe when he scored 55. It was mostly Jerry Stackhouse as well as Bryon Russell at times, iirc.

[SteveNashMVPcro]

lol, Why isnt Steve Nash GOAT?!
He's not:eek: :eek: :eek:

Lol u mad you have the most undeserved MVP in NBA history on your team, the only multiple time MVP to never even come close to the finals?

CP3 deserved it more in 2008 umad?
Nash got close

You mad you tried to build a title team for five years with Amare as your defensive anchor?

Nah im mad because our GM is a dumb ****


You mad that despite having the most stacked roster in the league at the time you still couldn't get past the WCF?
in 2005 Suns lacked rebounders and bench play
in 2006 they lacked rebounders,big men and bench play
in 2007 they got ****ed by the reffs
in 2010 your boy Kobe got luckey Artest cleard his air ball shot he took for the win


Didn't it also take you 7 games to get past a team with Kwame Brown, Smush Parker and Luke Walton starting? Your team is pathetic, just gtfo man be glad with the two fluke playoff victories Kobe DA GAWD gifted to you and go back to the NBA basement where you belong with other do-nothing teams like the Bucks and Bobcats
Odom and Kwame were beating the **** out of the Suns on the boards that's how bad the Suns rebounding was
yes we will go to the basment because our managers are retarded

[Nick Young]

Didnt this negga MJ shoot under 20% from the 3 point like FIVE times, :roll: what kinda SG does that?

Dont forget that this scrub needed overtime to score 69 points, while the GOAT dropped 62 points on a team that made the FINALS in 3 quarters:bowdown:

Oh yea, kobe has more defensive teams than him as well
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Overtime, wtf is this shit, the DA GAWD get's things done in regular time. All Time Game Winners Leader:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[The-Legend-24]

These suns fans are just hating cuz Kobe has more rings than that shitty ass franchise.

:pimp:

[LebronairJAMES]

op is a ****** and troll
Total Posts: 2,101 (24.48 posts per day)

[Nick Young]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lftkbz4k7k1qf6jh1.jpg
How can you be GOAT when you let Mamba laugh in your face as he's busy putting up 55 on your "best perimeter defender of all time" ass?

[SunsCaptain]

Maybe one day Kobe fans can stop trolling and actually become a part of the basketball community...Until then Kobe trolls only have other Kobe trolls to talk to because no one else respects their opinions. :facepalm

[chips93]

Trolling and ruining the boards?

Very immature. You wonder why you guys earn yourselves so many haters...Most annoying fan base... :facepalm


all people have to do is put them on giore, or just not respond to them and they will go away, problem solved. all they want is attention, and people are giving it to them

[SunsCaptain]

all people have to do is put them on giore, or just not respond to them and they will go away, problem solved. all they want is attention, and people are giving it to them

Good point new to the ignore feature since other boards dont have them def gunna add a few right now.

[chips93]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_iamL57xTdFE/TTMCPg1vWVI/AAAAAAAAEKM/akpdSNbH4GE/s1600/Tim+Donaghy.jpg

look no further than the man, the menace, mr. tim donaghy. its been well documented that refs such as donaghy have an unsolicited grudge against butler, and they ball bs fouls on him, to prevent him from displaying his true greatness.

[purplch0de]

Why are you such an overgrown bitch? I mean you have the option to ignore posters and not read threads involving kobe but you decide to post a thread referencing them? Plump vag is what you are.

[SunsCaptain]

Why are you such an overgrown bitch? I mean you have the option to ignore posters and not read threads involving kobe but you decide to post a thread referencing them? Plump vag is what you are.

Seems you failed reading comprehension since in the post RIGHT before yours i stated, " Good point new to the ignore feature since other boards dont have them def gunna add a few right now."

And I am now in the act of adding people to my list. Welcome to it =)

[Nick Young]

why are suns fans such whiny blubbering bitches?

[chips93]

Maybe one day Kobe fans can stop trolling and actually become a part of the basketball community...Until then Kobe trolls only have other Kobe trolls to talk to because no one else respects their opinions. :facepalm

maybe one day decent poster will stop responding to troll threads. you are only encouraging trolling by responding

[SteveNashMVPcro]

why are suns fans so whiny?
why are Kobe homers so dumb?

[chips93]

why are Kobe homers so dumb?

:no:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4cBMHYpZbj4/TOOfHmOgjNI/AAAAAAAAGfo/yV8eTKme0ww/s1600/dont-feed-the-troll.jpeg

[SteveNashMVPcro]

:no:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4cBMHYpZbj4/TOOfHmOgjNI/AAAAAAAAGfo/yV8eTKme0ww/s1600/dont-feed-the-troll.jpeg
you're right i'm probably just tired so i lost control

[Nevaeh]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lftkbz4k7k1qf6jh1.jpg
How can you be GOAT when you let Mamba laugh in your face as he's busy putting up 55 on your "best perimeter defender of all time" ass?


Because, even while your top Understudy is "dropping 55" on you, he still honors you by rocking your kicks during the game, helping you make money and stay relevant even at age 40 :cheers: "Honor Thy Father" indeed.

[kaiiu]

Ni99as mad Bean Bryant is the GOAT while MJ is a bean head. YALL MAAAAAAAAAAAAADD

[G-Funk]

Call me when the Suns make the Finals!!! Don't hold your breathe

[pauk]

this merge thing confuses me.... http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/images/smilies/confused4.gif

[Zedja]

this merge thing confuses me.... http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-default/images/smilies/confused4.gif
I love you.

[EricForman]

...because the mods have allowed the Kobe trolls to run amok? I mean, ISH has always had trolls, and Kobe trolls at that, but even the old ones, the Eliteballers and such, were more reasonable than this new breed: TheLogo, Jacks3, Nick Young, and just about 99% of all posters with either 24 in their usernames or a Laker avatar (All Net the exception, he's about the only good poster to have any of the above).

These threads, such as arguing Jordan's 2003 Wizards cast being as good as Dirk's 2011 cast, or that steroid era thread, constitute as blatant trolling on the worse level. I've been posting here since 2004 or so and I've never seen it this bad.

Jeff, you gonna let this go? Just because it draws clicks and traffics?

[Batz]

It's a lockout.

[knicksman]

It's a lockout.

yeah, jeff is not aloud to talk to the posters

[RazorBaLade]

Yeah and I'm sure Pauk is a perfectly reasonable lebron fan.

Face it, both sides have retarded fans. TBH, they are probably all the same 3-6 people just replying to each other on different accounts seeing what tactics work to sway opinions.

When the season is back it will be a lot better.

[pauk]

we act alot on ISH it seems..... everybody should get an oscar!

[Jacks3]

how am i a troll?:facepalm

op is dumbass. :facepalm

[pauk]

Yeah and I'm sure Pauk is a perfectly reasonable lebron fan.

Face it, both sides have retarded fans. TBH, they are probably all the same 3-6 people just replying to each other on different accounts seeing what tactics work to sway opinions.

When the season is back it will be a lot better.

and yes.. im sure 1 troll overpowers 1.000.000 trolls...

hey that might be true... i got teh powah

and wtf is not reasonable about my opinions? its all been FACTS.......

--lebron is the best player in the world today
--kobe is probably not a top 5 player today

all reasonable facts...

[sipitri]

I can't understand why people keep posting in thread like "Bill Russel vs Javale Mcgee" and shit like that.
Just let the trolls play by themselves, if you feed the trolls you play your part in ruining ISH.

[senelcoolidge]

I have to say some of these threads are beyond idiotic. All of the GOAT, Kobe, Lebron, vs. threads are annoying. I just ignore most of them.

[ImmortalD24]

how am i a troll?:facepalm

op is dumbass. :facepalm Yeah you're not a troll.. or even a Kobe fan for that matter. You slurp on LeBron more than anyone else from what I see.

Am I wrong?

[LBJ 23]

Yeah and I'm sure Pauk is a perfectly reasonable lebron fan.

Face it, both sides have retarded fans. TBH, they are probably all the same 3-6 people just replying to each other on different accounts seeing what tactics work to sway opinions.

When the season is back it will be a lot better.



Yes. Pauk is just as bad as Kobe trolls. But the problem is the ratio. It's like 1:5 or 2:10 lol. You have Pauk and who else? Maybe his other accounts like Evilmonkey/showtime and that's it. On the other hand you have Thelogo, alphawolf24, Bladers,Nick young, The-legend24, zah-24, Tha swagg3r and many more I dont even remember right now. And you can easily tell that mostly these are not the same persons.

[pauk]

Yes. Pauk is just as bad as Kobe trolls. But the problem is the ratio. It's like 1:5 or 2:10 lol. You have Pauk and who else? Maybe his other accounts like Evilmonkey/showtime and that's it. On the other hand you have Thelogo, alphawolf24, Bladers,Nick young, The-legend24, zah-24, Tha swagg3r and many more I dont even remember right now. And you can easily tell that mostly these are not the same persons.

lmao.... the only other account i have is evilmonkey and that is unusable.... banned.... thats why i have this account.... have nothing to hide.... lol @ showtime / the_showtime / sh0wtime / showtimelakers (which one u mean anyways) comparison.... all of em are a bunch of magic aids loving laker fans obviously.... i hate fakers... and i think magic is most overrated wannabe PG of all time like i said 1.000 times....

but ye the ratio is fakked up.... im a one man army

http://phillymusicguide.com/2pac-01.jpg

[knightfall88]

lmao.... the only other account i have is evilmonkey and that is unusable.... banned.... thats why i have this account.... have nothing to hide.... lol @ showtime / the_showtime / sh0wtime / showtimelakers (which one u mean anyways) comparison.... all of em are a bunch of magic aids loving laker fans obviously.... i hate fakers... and i think magic is most overrated wannabe PG of all time like i said 1.000 times....

but ye the ratio is fakked up.... im a one man army



ever think that you might just be wrong all time?

[blondie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sL_q3X-9S_o
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

like a combo of Rakim and Will Smith

[Doctor Rivers]

Yes. Pauk is just as bad as Kobe trolls. But the problem is the ratio. It's like 1:5 or 2:10 lol. You have Pauk and who else? Maybe his other accounts like Evilmonkey/showtime and that's it. On the other hand you have Thelogo, alphawolf24, Bladers,Nick young, The-legend24, zah-24, Tha swagg3r and many more I dont even remember right now. And you can easily tell that mostly these are not the same persons.

Pauk is worth at least two solid trolls.

[Doranku]

I love how the OP singles out Kobe stans when there's just as many/as bad LeBron/Heat/Jordan stans out there. Pauk, Heat007, genghiskhan, RRR09 or whatever, etc etc.

But yeah, it's just the Kobe trolls that make this site unbearable. :rolleyes: Typical Jordan stan logic.

[pauk]

Pauk is worth at least two solid trolls.

MVP baby! but only 2? damn u underestimate me...

[pauk]

I love how the OP singles out Kobe stans when there's just as many/as bad LeBron/Heat/Jordan stans out there. Pauk, Heat007, genghiskhan, RRR09 or whatever, etc etc.

But yeah, it's just the Kobe trolls that make this site unbearable. :rolleyes: Typical Jordan stan logic.

oh really? and what do u mean etc? etc? you mentioned all of the non-kobe "trolls".... you got me, who is the most active non-kobe-loving-non-lebron hating poster........

then you got:

Heat007 (havent seen him forever!)
Genghiskhan
RRR
who more? nobody...

and now take a look at 10% of the Kobe trolls & Lebron hating trolls i remember here right of my head:

Phong
Kaiiu
NBAcarddotnet
Premeditated
PleezeBelieve
TheLogo
Jacks3
Nick Young
RazorBalade
soothing layup
AlphaWolf24
TheLegend24
Zah24
TheSwagg3r
Doctor Rivers
knightfall88
winwin
GS1905
28renyoy
KB2009champ
G-Funk
ClippersFan86
DORANKU
97 bulls
bladers
dee-rose
nogunzjustskillz
NathanJizzle
lbjftw
MrBryant
BallersTalk
The Iron Fist
LakerLove420
PurplChOde
LeFraud James
Heavincent
TPOLS

and so on .............................. and all the posters with the number 24 in their name...

THE ONLY REASON I GET MORE SPOTLIGHT AND RARENESS......... IS BECAUSE IM ONE LONELY KOBE HATING-LEBRON FAN IN THE MIDST OF A HUGE PILE OF KOBE STANS-LEBRON HATERS.....



The only posters here ive seen that are Kobe/Laker fans and dont hate Lebron and dont overrate Kobe.. that are unbiased and so on....... that is ALL NET and all 3 SHOWTIME posters (la_showtime, sh0wtime, showtime)

[pauk]

@ Pauk,
How the hell are DMAVS and Shaqattack LeBron haters? And Jacks is LBJ fan.

I took DMAVS of... i confused him with that other Mavs fan who i still cant remember name of...

SHAQATTACK? he had some stupid shit to say about lebron in the past (u have probably not been around long enough?)... and he is a laker fan... so he is a suspect! lol

But i will maybe take ShaqAttack of... u know why? Because he actually ranks SHAQ over KOBE and has no major feelings for Kobe at all (but neither towards Lebron).... thats fair enough... respect to him... hence why.... ShaqAttack is of my list to now...

[pauk]

:rolleyes:

no seriously... look around... 90% of the laker fans here hate lebron to the freakin death.... its hard to not draw all of them over one comb... its almost like you can get SHOT if you like Lebron and live in California (or now Ohio) or wear a Kobe/Laker jersey anywhere in the world..... its probably one of those circle jerk things, you become the fanbase you join..... and that fanbase must hate anybody to honor their team & player........

and who is the only player that has been tugging on kobes superman cape the past years... and who has taken that "best player in the nba" right now? LEBRON...... so ofcourse its OBLIGATORY to not be happy about that as a Laker/Kobe fan....

[All Net]

DMAVS doesn't hate lebron he's very objective with him

He just called lebron out for how bad he was in the finals. I thin no doubt this time next year people will consider lebron the best again. Hell plenty still do.

As a basketball fan I just hope loses some weight And gets back to flying to the rim lebron. I miss watching that side to lebron.

[pauk]

....because these videos say so (kobetard logic used against them).......

kobrick lookin like a retard in the post... apparently he needs to work on his post game even more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crAOzajOPgM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhKyagzwT14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx-_o118F9M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRP6Sy8ICwA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGtOqGjlZr8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTN-4LoFefA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3LFQUCis1o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuQkUDq40KU&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLE35C1C013ADCB1B5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lFiKcBhJCw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXcaybP__6o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpxPgoPBrTk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2--Fi9RzV4

tell me if u want some more...........

thx to GIF's/Videos we can make anybody look sucky or good in any part of the game...

[ThaSwagg3r]

.
thx to GIF's/Videos we can make anybody look sucky or good in any part of the game...
Unfortunately for you there are more GIFS/Videos that make Kobe look good rather than bad. I can't say the same for your boy LeBron.

http://i53.tinypic.com/r1yfiw.jpg
http://nsa24.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20/101020073017274536.gif
http://nsa24.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20/101020072344174800.gif
http://nsa23.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20/101020084916741524.gif
http://nsa26.casimages.com/img/2011/06/24/110624092816494551.gif

[pauk]

actually........ notice how there is NO gifs of any kobes failed attempts...... maybe 1-2 i could find.......

its only sad delusional insecure kobe fans that create GIFS of kobes made shots (and all lebrons failed shots)........ PHONG & nbacarddotnet here in the forum make a living out of that...

nbacarddotnet has even a freakin website dedicated to Lebron hating creating GIF's........ http://www.nbacard.net/

how sad is he? hahahaha

lebron/wade fans dont do that (create GIF's of kobes fails)...... you know why? because it would overload the internet......... just watch any game and u will see him failing, bricking, geting stripped/blocked and what not... and there is always youtube... but not even there is enough.... its just to much to keep track of...

[ThaSwagg3r]

actually........ notice how there is NO gifs of any kobes failed attempts...... maybe 1-2 i could find.......

its only sad delusional unsecure kobe fans that create GIFS of kobes made shots (and all lebrons shots)........ PHONG & nbacarddotnet here in the forum make a living out of that
Find YouTube videos that make LeBron's post game look good because I bet you can't find more than 5 while I could find 5 videos/gifs in like a minute. :oldlol:

[LBJDWADE63]

Even tho im a kobe hater he is still the best sg in the league. Dwyane Wade is not even the best player on his team. Dwyane Wade will never reach kobe's level.

and also
Prime Kobe> Prime D Wade

[pauk]

lol nice trolling with the account name and so on

KOBE<WADE

[LBJDWADE63]

lol nice trolling with the account name and so on

KOBE<WADE


Well i used to like him but after that ECF against Chicago:facepalm :facepalm i got the idea that he would never reach kobe's level.

9 turnovers in 3 quarters. It's just pathetic.

[pauk]

Well i used to like him but after that ECF against Chicago:facepalm :facepalm i got the idea that he would never reach kobe's level.

9 turnovers in 3 quarters. It's just pathetic.

cmon man... wade was just not in offensive rythm...

some players play good against certain teams... some play bad against certain teams.... unless they are in offensive rythm... its kindof random...

lebron was really not been able to play up to his standards against Mavs.... but Wade was able...

wade was not really been able to play up to his standards against Bulls... but Lebron was able...

different results in those series but yea...

kobe was not really been able to play up to his standards against Mavs either....... and they got swept... forgot that?

[BruceLeeBowen]

Even tho im a kobe hater he is still the best sg in the league. Dwyane Wade is not even the best player on his team. Dwyane Wade will never reach kobe's level.

and also
Prime Kobe> Prime D Wade

Not the best on his team?
Wade > Bosh > Lebron :confusedshrug:

[PTB Fan]

That's pathetic. I'm not a fan, but Kobe's post up game is among the best in the league now.

[pauk]

That's pathetic. I'm not a fan, but Kobe's post up game is among the best in the league now.

u dont get my ironic point do u?

[PTB Fan]

u dont get my ironic point do u?

I'm sorry. At first i misunderstood you...

[PTB Fan]

Wade has been the best SG in the league (arguably) since 09, maybe even 08.

And his ECF against the Bulls wasn't as bad you think it was. He was doing well on defense, making clutch plays (true clutch performer), being an all-around force etc.

[EricForman]

how am i a troll?:facepalm

op is dumbass. :facepalm


WOW.

[Stuckey]

wade's 2006 is almost untouchable

made the pistons look like tissue paper, and turned into moses against the cubans

having said that, young kobe had a cool mini fro, shaq, and stern, deadly combination

[pauk]

I'm sorry. At first i misunderstood you...

its mainly to mock the kobetards.... who think that a gif/video proves one player is bad or good at something.....

like they LOVE to use a couple of gifs each time to mock lebrons post game for example......

lebron obviously is not HAKEEM in the post.... he needs to improve with some moves.... but they try to act like his post game is PATHETIC........ like if he anytime he goes in there he loses the ball, gets stripped and so on........... lebron has an ok/average post game, but he succeeds there anyways because of his power.... lebron rarely even even have to use a post game and he rarely does ..........

post game is **** overrated anyways..... its for those who are not lebron........ for those who cant jump over people... and cant drive by anybody....

jordans "post game" was not undefendable.... IT WAS HIS FADEAWAY.......

LOL @ those who think a hakeemesque post game will improve lebrons game.... he doesnt need that shit at all....... maybe only when he loses his athleticism........

its perfect logic....... why should you give somebody a chance to defend you.... when you are that athletic and talented????

if you are GODZILLA..... and play against a 6 footer...... why the F would u post the guy up?

if you are A HAWK.... and play against anybody.... would you post him up and let him give a chance to defend u? or would you just FLY OVER HIM?

[Stuckey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3LFQUCis1o

made kobe look silly
did he just say kome?

this one's sexy too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXzgIKh472c

[PTB Fan]

its mainly to mock the kobetards.... who think that a gif/video proves one player is bad or good at something.....

like they LOVE to use a couple of gifs each time to mock lebrons post game for example......

lebron obviously is not HAKEEM in the post.... he needs to improve with some moves.... but they try to act like his post game is PATHETIC........ like if he anytime he goes in there he loses the ball, gets stripped and so on........... lebron has an ok/average post game, but he succeeds there anyways because of his power.... lebron rarely even even have to use a post game and he rarely does ..........

post game is for those who are not lebron........ for those who cant jump over people... and cant drive by anybody....

LOL @ those who think a hakeemesque post game will improve lebrons game.... he doesnt need that shit at all....... maybe only when he loses his athleticism........

LeBron has solid post up game..but he doesn't go in there often. With him having worked with Hakeem in the post, he could establish himself as a great presence in the low post, something that the Heat need.

I'd say that's another huge step for him. He'd definitely help his chances of winning a title. Yes, he'd still go out on the perimeter and drive to the rim but it wouldn't be bad to go in the post and dominate from there too.

His efficiency will increase and this will open up the Heat...there are tons of positive things with LeBron being great low post offensive player.

[ThaSwagg3r]

Find me a video or gif of LeBrons' great post game then. :oldlol:

Reality is that you can't.....you have nothing to counter those pathetic footage of LeBron's post game.

[Stuckey]

freight train > fade aways

[24r2]

....because these videos say so (kobetard logic used against them).......

kobrick lookin like a retard in the post... apparently he needs to work on his post game even more...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crAOzajOPgM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhKyagzwT14

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx-_o118F9M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRP6Sy8ICwA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGtOqGjlZr8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTN-4LoFefA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3LFQUCis1o&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuQkUDq40KU&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PLE35C1C013ADCB1B5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lFiKcBhJCw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXcaybP__6o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpxPgoPBrTk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2--Fi9RzV4

tell me if u want some more...........

thx to GIF's/Videos we can make anybody look sucky or good in any part of the game...

:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping

[chazzy]

if you are GODZILLA..... and play against a 6 footer...... why the F would u post the guy up?

if you are A HAWK.... and play against anybody.... would you post him up and let him give a chance to defend u? or would you just FLY OVER HIM?
LOL

[pauk]

LOL

lol i know... had to bring that analogy up.... because its true......

lebron is not using the post game because he is taking advantage of a god given talent nobody has... the best combination of speed, size, quickness, strength, vertical in NBA history....... before it vanishes........ once it does.... then he can go all MR.FUNDAMENTAL....

he doesnt go to the post game... because he has none... but because he just powers or explodes past or over you instead...... anytime he wishes...

[chazzy]

lol i know... had to bring that analogy up.... because its true......

lebron is not using the post game because he is taking advantage of a god given talent nobody has... the best combination of speed, size, quickness, strength, vertical in NBA history....... before it vanishes........ once it does.... then he can go all MR.FUNDAMENTAL....
He could've used it this past season to diversify his offensive game. He was no longer attacking the rim as well as he used to and settled for a lot of jumpers (which he made at a good rate). When teams throw undersized players at him, it's good to have the ability to comfortably back them down and get a high percentage look. He's capable of backing guys down, but he's clearly not comfortable with it enough to use it as a go to option.

He is NOT just simply skying over people to get his points as this unstoppable force. That's a weak excuse :oldlol:

[Q.E.C]

On the first video that's Emeka Okafor

[Stuckey]

mmm monster fantasy players

[PTB Fan]

LeBron's not mentally tough enough in the clutch. He's not consistent. Like the series versus the Mavericks.

[EnoughSaid]

Kobe smack.

[Ronaldinho]

Lebron post game average :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Lebron post game and footwork is mediocre.The fact that you cant find videos/gifs of his post game/footwork proves it.

[PTB Fan]

Good post..

Guys here are taking things too much serious..

[SteveNashMVPcro]

1.pauk
2.D-Wade316
3.euroleague
4.jlauber-not sure xd
5.alpha wolf 24
6.nick young

what do i win

[Stuckey]

im so hard right now

[pauk]

lebron traveled

[SteveNashMVPcro]

I'm not revealing who's who until this goes on for a bit...
I already reveald all of your mistery posters so what do I win

[pauk]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Stuckey]

lebron traveled

orly

[pauk]

orly

lol

its funny in youtube... its always some dude goin lebron traveled! so now just for the sake of it everybody goes lebron traveled on any random video... even it has nothing to do with him :oldlol:

[Stuckey]

im gonna earn my way to 10k posts

keep your whore mouths shut

[Stuckey]

meh, not even mad

he giveths and he takeths, lebron's been the most expensive whore i nutted on

[Stuckey]

lol

its funny in youtube... its always some dude goin lebron traveled! so now just for the sake of it everybody goes lebron traveled on any random video... even it has nothing to do with him :oldlol:

but the question is....

when do wolves come out of the forest

****ing most ridiculous intro

[pauk]

meh, not even mad

he giveths and he takeths, lebron's been the most expensive whore i nutted on

no man he wasnt even traveling on 99% of those youtube videos.... its just haters ... alot of them... :oldlol:

[SteveNashMVPcro]

You got some wrong actually.
**** :D there are so many trolls this game became really hard

[ballup]

Oh Pauk, such a try hard when Lebron is being scrutinized. :lol
A good 1/4 of the examples aren't even back to the basket post moves and just clips of Kobe getting blocked. Hell, even two of them that were back to the basket post moves were blocked by a weak side big man.

[pauk]

.....thats when u really know it has gone to far :oldlol:


alright... ill try not speak of lebron or kobe for the rest of the day... at least... :oldlol:

last one before i do that....


WADE > KOBBBBBRRRRIIICCCKKK SUXXX < LEBRON !!!111!! :banana:

[Stuckey]

no man he wasnt even traveling on 99% of those youtube videos.... its just haters ... alot of them... :oldlol:

talking chips burns paper fast, his and mine

but how beautiful is that, that's karl marx in a game form

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

nice thread :oldlol: :oldlol:

1.Pauk
2.TheSwagg3r
3.Euroleague
4.jlauber
5.The-Legend-24 or Zay 24
6.Jack3 or The-Legend-24 or Zay 24

:cheers:

[MeLO MvP 15]

There are so many Kobe homers that it's pretty hard to classify each one. They all seem the same to me.

[SteveNashMVPcro]

:lol
I'm sure i got pauk(no1),euroleague(no3) and jlauber(no4) :lol
I don't know about no2 it sounded a bit like that wade dude but now I'm sure it's one of many Kobe trolls
no5 just has to be alpha wolf he's like the biggest kobe troll ever
no6 is hard to guess because there are like 10 Kobe trolls

[pauk]

talking chips burns paper fast, his and mine

but how beautiful is that, that's karl marx in a game form

sorry but i have been sitting here now reading that over and over for 10-15 mins.... and still cant understand wtf ur talking about :oldlol:

whats beautiful? lebron traveling or kobe getting rejected?

EDIT: cr@p... i forgot i cant speak about them for at least a day... this is tough!!

[pauk]

damn.... u took an easy one RRR tho.... im like teh most unique here... :oldlol:

[pauk]

http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2009-07-15/1247627894508.jpg

[Doctor Rivers]

No DMAVS/Gyno?

Pauk knows that Wade > LeBron

[pauk]

No DMAVS/Gyno?

Pauk knows that Wade > LeBron

lol tryin to use wade against me huh!

at the end of the day...

WADE > KOBE
LEBRON > KOBE
DURANT > KOBE
DIRK > KOBE
ROSE > KOBE
DWIGHT > KOBE
ME > KOBE
KOBE > YOU

[andgar923]

Lebron's post game is average compared to whose? Iverson's?

Bron has a sub part post game, and is nowhere near Kobe's.

Having said that, the OP does make a valid point (whether people wanna agree with him or not). Kobe gets raped on offense and defense far too many times for his fans to laugh at other players. How he gets a pass is beyond me, I guess its just one of those double standards.

But sure, everybody gets shitted on from time to time. The problem here is Kobe's fans and the media (to a degree) making Kobe appear to be as something that he's not. And another part of the problem is Kobe's reactions when he gets shitted on. Yes, players don't like it, but I've never seen a player react like he does. Not even Bron cries as much as he does, not even Wade is as demonstrative as Kobe is. He cries, pouts and complains in ways that'll make Sheed embarrassed.

And btw.... Bron fans should be ashamed and embarrassed for not having any sense of dignity and just STFU. After Bron's performance in the Finals they should be hiding.

[Doctor Rivers]

cmon man... wade was just taking a backseat to LeBron's frontrunning...

some players play good against certain teams... some play bad when under pressure.... unless they are in offensive rythm... its kind of predictable with lebron...

lebron choked in the finals against the Mavs.... but Wade was able step up like he usually does prior to getting injured...

wade was taking it easy and choosing his spots against the bulls... but Lebron was able to front run...

different types of pressure in those series but yea...

kome was not really been able to play up to his standards against Mavs either and he's over the hill....... and they got swept... forgot that?

fixed your usual erroneous points

you're welcome

[Doctor Rivers]

lol tryin to use wade against me huh!

at the end of the day...

WADE > KOBE
LEBRON > KOBE
DURANT > KOBE
DIRK > KOBE
ROSE > KOBE
DWIGHT > KOBE
ME > KOBE
KOBE > YOU

does wade at the top mean he's the best?

[pauk]

fixed your usual erroneous points

you're welcome

oh damn... and i thought u was a kobetard.....

just a butthurt celtic fan then huh? sry bout the celtics bro... lebron had to let the grandpas go :oldlol:

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a78/nursetpd/TSB/Chosen_One_VS_Big_3.gif

[Doctor Rivers]

oh damn... and i thought u was a kobetard.....

just a butthurt celtic fan then huh? :oldlol:

dumbass...go back and read my posts about wade son

just b/c i have a doc avatar doesn't mean im a celdick fan

[andgar923]

So much so that you needed to make a thread about it?

[SwayDizzle]

check this beauty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM9Hw5V2fHc&feature=related

[rodman91]

Wade > Kobe at this point.

Kobe is still great player though, not that out of prime as some posters want.

[Heavincent]

Coming from the guy that makes like a million Kobe/Lebron threads a day.

You're so daft.

[PowerGlove]

6 is a lot of people bro. A lot of people.

[ashlar]

What kind of jobless mouthbreathing sack of ***** gets joy out of this?

[ashlar]

You would think that all the Kobe/Lebron shit pauk has been typing up he would actually write a complete sentence for once.

[Doctor Rivers]

You would think that all the Kobe/Lebron shit pauk has been typing up he would actually write a complete sentence for once.

wishful thinking.

it's like lebron. you think with all the opportunities he has had having the best teams going into the playoffs he would have won a ring by now...

[pauk]

....and his choking, cracking under pressure, no heart performance and against the Mavs... who swept him very early....


http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/drew/litt0710.gif

[ballerz]

LOL at a lebron fan making fun of someone for choking in the playoffs

[Doctor Rivers]

....and his choking, cracking under pressure, no heart performance and against the Mavs... who swept him very early....


http://blogs.rockymountainnews.com/drew/litt0710.gif

who cares about kome? im getting sick of all these threads. there are better players to talk about...like wade

[Doranku]

0-2 in the finals :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Doctor Rivers]

i like how whoever posts against bronzy is automatically a "kobetard"

[nathanjizzle]

what i dont get is how a lebron fan can talk shit about kobe.

[D-Wade316]

who cares about kome? im getting sick of all these threads. there are better players to talk about...like wade
This.

[nbacardDOTnet]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zzzz%20F/without-life-losers-pauk-rrr3.jpg

rrr3 - 14.9 %

pauk - 11.1 %

total - 26 %

[All Net]

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zzzz%20F/without-life-losers-pauk-rrr3.jpg

rrr3 - 14.9 %

pauk - 11.1 %

total - 26 %
In fairness this is a bunch of threads piled into one.

[Phong]

In fairness this is a bunch of threads piled into one.Wouldn't you expect Kobe stans to have higher post counts then? :confusedshrug:

[DMV2]

Wouldn't you expect Kobe stans to have higher post counts then? :confusedshrug:
There's a shitload of them compared to haters(or MJ/LeBron fans) so their post counts are spread out when you have dozens and dozen of Kobe stans posting.

Heavincent 15
ThaSwagg3r 13 (don't know if he's Kobe stan or not, he hates LeBron though)
Nick Young 13
PTB Fan 11
Stuckey 10
Boston C's 9
SteveNashMVPcro 8
Doctor Rivers 8
chips93 7
SunsCaptain 6
zay_24 6
G-Funk 5
The-Legend-24 5
AlphaWolf24 5
RazorBaLade 4
kaiiu 4
DMV2 4
LBJDWADE63 4
All Net 3 (Not a stan or troll)
Ronaldinho 2
TheLogo 2
andgar923 2
ShaqAttack3234 2
Doranku 2
ashlar 2
winwin 2
SuperPippen 2
Mr. Jabbar 2

That's about 70 posts from Kobe trolls or supporters.

[Phong]

There's a shitload of them compared to haters(or MJ/LeBron fans) so their post counts are spread out when you have dozens and dozen of Kobe stans posting.Hey, they don't have to reply to every single post.

[All Net]

Wouldn't you expect Kobe stans to have higher post counts then? :confusedshrug:
Depends what the haters were saying I suppose.