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Celtics4ever
09-08-2011, 06:29 PM
Time has passed since you won the MVP trophy award. What are your feelings about it now?
DR: It was great but I’m not satisfied. I won’t be satisfied until I win a championship. I’m not satisfied at all. There’s not a doubt in my mind that I’m not going to win a championship. I’m going win multiple championships. It’s not a doubt in my mind.
After the Heat series, you said your conditioning wasn’t good enough. What are you doing this summer to improve it?
DR: Well, it’s the first time I ever lifted weight besides college. I think that’s gonna help me evolve my game. I know it’s going to be hard because I really don’t like lifting like that, but I’ll do anything to win, anything to get that advantage. Benching, squats, sit-ups, push-ups… Everything you can think of, I’m doing it right now on one-hour sessions from Monday to Friday. I’m on the court from like 8.30 to 9.30, then go home, sleep till like 1 and then I go to my conditioning.
http://blogs.*********.com/blogs/barrigon/2011/08/20/derrick-rose-im-going-to-win-multiple-championships/
The guy sounds pretty confident, maybe he is over the humble attitude.
He also talks about working on his post game.
nathanjizzle
09-08-2011, 06:42 PM
i already knew the kid would win atleast 1 as i watched him his rookie year. Thats like looking at a young kobe on a lakers team and saying he would never win one, u just do see it not happening.
There's no reason for him not to. He's just going to have to back up his mouth.
ThaSwagg3r
09-08-2011, 06:45 PM
Sorry but Derrick Rose is not a credible source for news about Derrick Rose.
There's no reason for him not to. He's just going to have to back up his mouth.
Well there is plenty of reason given the competition he'll face. Bron/Wade for another 3-4 seasons (together atleast). Durant out West if Rose ever did get to the Finals. It'll be tough.
Well there is plenty of reason given the competition he'll face. Bron/Wade for another 3-4 seasons (together atleast). Durant out West if Rose ever did get to the Finals. It'll be tough.
He has the talent and the Bulls are one of the top defensive teams in the league. There's no reason for him not to win 2 titles.
LosBulls
09-08-2011, 06:48 PM
Evolving From:
http://users.chariot.net.au/~byoung/jordan/jordan27.jpg
To
http://www.freeiphonewallpapers.com/wallpapers/MichaelJordan-127.jpg
cteach111
09-08-2011, 06:51 PM
We shall see. The Bulls seem like they will have a 2 year window. They could compete longer, but guys like Boozer and Noah suffer injuries quite a bit.
Remember when he said "why can't I be MVP?" and that came true.
They're gonna have to dump Boozer for a better #2 though.
So are we all going to hate on Rose now?
Pointguard
09-08-2011, 09:07 PM
So are we all going to hate on Rose now?
This year he was only behind Lebron on the Hater meter. It was crazy here once February hit here.
knightfall88
09-08-2011, 09:13 PM
He also said he has a 3pt shot and he did back that up. Looking forward to seeing him play now.
The-Legend-24
09-08-2011, 09:15 PM
Greatest bull ever???
This year he was only behind Lebron on the Hater meter. It was crazy here once February hit here.
LOL what. Rose is quite overrated by the media and many fans, no one truly hates him. Kobe is still way more hated than Rose (although Kobe is equally loved by his obsessive stans, so it balances out I guess). Guys like Wade, Bosh, Melo, Pau Gasol, Westbrook all got more hate than Rose this past year.
knickscity
09-08-2011, 09:19 PM
It won't be easy but I can see him winning one.
I don't know about the "multiple" part.
Greatest bull ever???
http://www.nba.com/bulls/photos/rodman_101214.jpg
D-Wade316
09-08-2011, 09:45 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
G-train
09-08-2011, 09:51 PM
Surely he has lifted weights as a pro.
Heavincent
09-08-2011, 10:09 PM
He's absolutely right.
Heavincent
09-08-2011, 10:12 PM
who?
Derrick Rose. He will win multiple championships.
Tha Catalyst
09-08-2011, 10:14 PM
Surely he has lifted weights as a pro.
That's what I was thinking, when i hear stuff like this I wonder what are they getting paid millions for? Weights is a routine part of most sports in the world. In saying that, after Roses 'why can't I be MVP' rant, I take his words seriously. Bulls need to give Boozer the flick.
Pointguard
09-08-2011, 10:43 PM
That's what I was thinking, when i hear stuff like this I wonder what are they getting paid millions for? Weights is a routine part of most sports in the world. In saying that, after Roses 'why can't I be MVP' rant, I take his words seriously. Bulls need to give Boozer the flick.
Guards are not obligated. I doubt that Durant has to either. It can mess with your shot. Remember when Kobe buffed up how wild his shot went. So no they don't get paid to buff up in the backcourt.
Pointguard
09-08-2011, 10:51 PM
LOL what. Rose is quite overrated by the media and many fans, no one truly hates him. Kobe is still way more hated than Rose (although Kobe is equally loved by his obsessive stans, so it balances out I guess). Guys like Wade, Bosh, Melo, Pau Gasol, Westbrook all got more hate than Rose this past year.
Bosh, Pau and Westbrook might have gotten five hate threads between them here. Rose was in the elite area with Kobe and Lebron. Wade wasn't close either. If you had come only two months earlier you would have been wtf?
He has the talent and the Bulls are one of the top defensive teams in the league. There's no reason for him not to win 2 titles.
How far did the Bulls get with that top defensive team again? Ok. Unless you're a dominant big man, its hard for a guard to win a title as the focal point.
Pointguard
09-08-2011, 11:03 PM
How far did the Bulls get with that top defensive team again? Ok. Unless you're a dominant big man, its hard for a guard to win a title as the focal point.
Gobb that was in the old days. Jordan would have shut out the age of great centers if he played straight thru. Kobe has been the best of late.
Its hard for any young team to arrive in one year and win the championship. Lately, its been experienced teams that have been winning more than any other factor.
knicksman
09-08-2011, 11:51 PM
iverson who is better than him cant even win 1
Heavincent
09-08-2011, 11:57 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
You probably laughed at him when he said he can win MVP too.
Rose will be the best player in the NBA soon. Deal with it.
Simple Jack
09-09-2011, 12:42 AM
If this was LeBron, he'd be hated on till no end...oh wait.....
nashwade
09-09-2011, 12:49 AM
sure.. join lebron and you can win 8
L8kersfan222
09-09-2011, 01:05 AM
He doesn't lift weights? Jesus christ.
Pointguard
09-09-2011, 01:12 AM
He doesn't lift weights? Jesus christ.
Barkley didn't either. But Rose is defintely among the strongest point guards anyway. If he did push ups and natural body weights he would be better off than doing the weight thing.
Mr. Jabbar
09-09-2011, 01:14 AM
Well, we all know how the last guy who promised multiple chips is doing...
EricForman
09-09-2011, 02:38 AM
Like I've been saying, the media, and to an extent, many bball fans, hold players to different standards that often contradict what they "believe" in.
Rose is loved for all these things that Lebron or Kobe would be killed for. The media played up how loyal (to deng) Rose was for "not caring about whether Lebron comes to chicago or not" last summer... WTF?
Any player who didn't want Lebron to come to their team are putting personal reasons/selfish reasons over WINNING, period. This could have easily been spun into "DRose didn't want to give up the spotlight and #1 spot so he never cared about recruiting Lebron", but instead it got spun the other way into "Rose is super loyal to deng".
The proclaiming MVP and titles? somehow when Rose does it it's not being egotistical. :confusedshrug:
So are we all going to hate on Rose now?
:oldlol: nah... he is fine.... he aint lebron.... it works only with lebron...
you see...
"The greater you are, The hated you are"
Go Getter
09-09-2011, 02:41 AM
You put too much stock in comments made by players toeing the company line and fanatics hell-bent on aggrandizing their favorite player.
Go Getter
09-09-2011, 02:42 AM
I've seen him lift free weights btw.
Go Getter
09-09-2011, 02:43 AM
:oldlol: nah... he is fine.... he aint lebron.... it works only with lebron...
you see...
"The greater you are, The hated you are"
:facepalm
not lifting weights my ***...
he freakin looks like the lebron version of the PG's.....
http://dunkcontest.free.fr/public/blowup-images/.Derrick-Rose-Skills-Challenge-2009_m.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5wImnwWV1_0/TYV6yQgDFaI/AAAAAAAAAtA/x0XSspk14w8/s1600/File%253ADerrick%2BRose%2B2.jpeg
he maybe was thinking of becoming something like this:
http://www.muscleprodigy.com/content/articles/home/the-world-s-most-jacked-athletes-946.jpg
thejumpa
09-09-2011, 03:00 AM
When you are that gifted...physically, athletically, etc...you don't need to lift weights. I bet LeBron doesn't lift weights either.
Anyway, I like the confidence but let's be real here. MIA played a bunch of streetball last year and beat Chicago easily. 5 game series just like that. As great as Rose is, his talent alone isn't enough to win "multiple" championships. He's going to have to deal with a gelling MIA for the next 4-5 years and worry about what his team is going to do to get him more help.
LA_Showtime
09-09-2011, 03:34 AM
When you are that gifted...physically, athletically, etc...you don't need to lift weights. I bet LeBron doesn't lift weights either.
Anyway, I like the confidence but let's be real here. MIA played a bunch of streetball last year and beat Chicago easily. 5 game series just like that. As great as Rose is, his talent alone isn't enough to win "multiple" championships. He's going to have to deal with a gelling MIA for the next 4-5 years and worry about what his team is going to do to get him more help.
He clearly lifts weights, but maybe this is the first time he's seriously dedicated himself to getting stronger. Might end up doing more harm than good. A lot of these guys are just freak athletes. There was an article about Shannon Brown a couple years back and he stated he only does push ups because he puts on weight too quickly when he strength trains. Crazy shit.
thejumpa
09-09-2011, 04:26 AM
He clearly lifts weights, but maybe this is the first time he's seriously dedicated himself to getting stronger. Might end up doing more harm than good. A lot of these guys are just freak athletes. There was an article about Shannon Brown a couple years back and he stated he only does push ups because he puts on weight too quickly when he strength trains. Crazy shit.
Not to brag or whatever...but I never picked up a weight before in my life, never did any vertical training, and never even stretched before playing...I had a 30+ inch vertical, was pretty athletic, could dunk like it was nothing, and could finish in the paint against guys bigger than me. Didn't give two shits about my diet either. There are tons of kids like this all over the country. Obviously I'm no Derrick Rose or LeBron James, but my point is that some guys are just built for sports. They don't need weights to make them better.
DJ Leon Smith
09-09-2011, 04:31 AM
Like I've been saying, the media, and to an extent, many bball fans, hold players to different standards that often contradict what they "believe" in.
Rose is loved for all these things that Lebron or Kobe would be killed for. The media played up how loyal (to deng) Rose was for "not caring about whether Lebron comes to chicago or not" last summer... WTF?
Any player who didn't want Lebron to come to their team are putting personal reasons/selfish reasons over WINNING, period. This could have easily been spun into "DRose didn't want to give up the spotlight and #1 spot so he never cared about recruiting Lebron", but instead it got spun the other way into "Rose is super loyal to deng".
The proclaiming MVP and titles? somehow when Rose does it it's not being egotistical. :confusedshrug:
Every player will always say they play to win, and players on elite teams will always say they're aiming for multiple championships. The difference with LeBron was he said it would be EASY.
OmniStrife
09-09-2011, 05:22 AM
not 5, not 6, not 7...
All Net
09-09-2011, 05:25 AM
Like I've been saying, the media, and to an extent, many bball fans, hold players to different standards that often contradict what they "believe" in.
Rose is loved for all these things that Lebron or Kobe would be killed for. The media played up how loyal (to deng) Rose was for "not caring about whether Lebron comes to chicago or not" last summer... WTF?
Any player who didn't want Lebron to come to their team are putting personal reasons/selfish reasons over WINNING, period. This could have easily been spun into "DRose didn't want to give up the spotlight and #1 spot so he never cared about recruiting Lebron", but instead it got spun the other way into "Rose is super loyal to deng".
The proclaiming MVP and titles? somehow when Rose does it it's not being egotistical. :confusedshrug:
Agreed it just doesnt seem logical
Like I've been saying, the media, and to an extent, many bball fans, hold players to different standards that often contradict what they "believe" in.
Rose is loved for all these things that Lebron or Kobe would be killed for. The media played up how loyal (to deng) Rose was for "not caring about whether Lebron comes to chicago or not" last summer... WTF?
Any player who didn't want Lebron to come to their team are putting personal reasons/selfish reasons over WINNING, period. This could have easily been spun into "DRose didn't want to give up the spotlight and #1 spot so he never cared about recruiting Lebron", but instead it got spun the other way into "Rose is super loyal to deng".
What? When has the media ever talked about Rose being loyal to Deng? What are you talking about? First time I've ever heard that.
And the rumors that he didn't want Lebron to come are baseless. He's mentioned that he squashed those rumors with Lebron. Maybe he didn't go out of his way to recruit him, but so what? Most players in NBA history don't do that. There's some players that go out of their ways to do that. There's also some players that don't try to go out of their element and trust their management enough to not get in their way and let them do their job.
The proclaiming MVP and titles? somehow when Rose does it it's not being egotistical. :confusedshrug:
He mentioned it in an online interview. Lebron says he's going to win 8 titles with Pat Riley as the point and it was going to be easy during a ridiculous spectacle right after the most egotistical f*ck you "decision" special shows ever. Its completely different.
The_Yearning
09-09-2011, 02:31 PM
Not to brag or whatever...but I never picked up a weight before in my life, never did any vertical training, and never even stretched before playing...I had a 30+ inch vertical, was pretty athletic, could dunk like it was nothing, and could finish in the paint against guys bigger than me. Didn't give two shits about my diet either. There are tons of kids like this all over the country. Obviously I'm no Derrick Rose or LeBron James, but my point is that some guys are just built for sports. They don't need weights to make them better.
Lmao is that supposed to be good?? :roll:
knightfall88
09-09-2011, 07:20 PM
Not to brag or whatever...but I never picked up a weight before in my life, never did any vertical training, and never even stretched before playing...I had a 30+ inch vertical, was pretty athletic, could dunk like it was nothing, and could finish in the paint against guys bigger than me. Didn't give two shits about my diet either. There are tons of kids like this all over the country. Obviously I'm no Derrick Rose or LeBron James, but my point is that some guys are just built for sports. They don't need weights to make them better.
thats why u know nothing about weights and what a person who has done weights looks like
nathanjizzle
09-09-2011, 08:19 PM
i know D rose, ive watched him since his highschool year. He is a champion, he doesnt need a loser like lebron james to help him win, he will do it on his own.
Simple Jack
09-09-2011, 08:24 PM
i know D rose, ive watched him since his highschool year. He is a champion, he doesnt need a loser like lebron james to help him win, he will do it on his own.
Didn't he blow the NCAA championship because of missed FT's down the stretch?
Didn't he blow the NCAA championship because of missed FT's down the stretch?
:oldlol: So much for "knowing" Rose eh
chips93
09-09-2011, 09:40 PM
Didn't he also choke against the supposed king of choking this year? :roll:
choking and playing badly are two different things.
rose choked on those free throws, there were no other factors involved, while this playoffs, some o f the credit has to go to bron for his defense, so its not fair to say rose just 'choked'
BlackWhiteGreen
09-09-2011, 10:24 PM
Great. In other news, I'm gonna sleep with more people than Wilt, get more rings than Russell, dunk on Scottie and Michael at the same time, and do it all with 3 of my mates and Bill Simmons at centre.
He doesn't have the team to do it in the next 2 years. And he has a hell of a lot of better competition (Durant, LeBron, and other players that will arise). He's not the best point guard in the NBA. And who was the last great point guard to win a title without another top all time 20-30 player? Don't even think they have. He needs a McHale, he needs a Kobe, he needs a Pippen. Hell he could even make do with a Gasol. But he does not, as much as I admire Deng, he's not that guy. Dwight could be, one day.
Westbrook is arguably as good of a player as Rose. And Westbrook has Durant, and Ibaka, and Harden. Rose has defensive specialists.
Lebron23
09-10-2011, 12:29 AM
i know D rose, ive watched him since his highschool year. He is a champion, he doesnt need a loser like lebron james to help him win, he will do it on his own.
He choked in the NCAA Finals a couple of years ago. Good luck to him winning an NBA title because he won't win another MVP Award.
Eric Cartman
09-10-2011, 12:56 AM
That is the new fad accumulating hypothetical championships.
MIami Three' - +8 hypothetical rings
Derrick Rose - Multiple
SpecialQue
09-10-2011, 01:48 AM
That is the new fad accumulating hypothetical championships.
MIami Three' - +8 hypothetical rings
Derrick Rose - Multiple
Rose's multiple rings >>>>> Miami Three's +8 hypothetical rings.
Lebron23
09-10-2011, 01:54 AM
F*ck this Debrick Rose. John Wall is going to be a better PG than this arrogant clown.
D-Wade316
09-10-2011, 02:04 AM
You probably laughed at him when he said he can win MVP too.
Rose will be the best player in the NBA soon. Deal with it.
AI>Rose
Lebron, Wade>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AI
Miami Heat = Dynasty
Deal with it.
thejumpa
09-10-2011, 03:05 AM
Lmao is that supposed to be good?? :roll:
Dunno...probably not compared to your 40+ inch vertical, but I think I'm doing ok:confusedshrug:
thats why u know nothing about weights and what a person who has done weights looks like
:oldlol:
The-Legend-24
09-10-2011, 03:35 AM
:applause: Hopefully he ends his career with at least a ring.
My favorite player behind Kobe.
andgar923
09-10-2011, 03:40 AM
Sure he'll win multiple championships.......
If he joins Miami, Lakers, Howard goes to the Bulls, or if he gets 3 other all stars future hall of famers on his team. Otherwise, he aint winning shit.
Go Getter
09-10-2011, 03:53 AM
Sure he'll win multiple championships.......
If he joins Miami, Lakers, Howard goes to the Bulls, or if he gets 3 other all stars future hall of famers on his team. Otherwise, he aint winning shit.
Dirk Nowitski has a hearty gutteral laugh at this post.
Go Getter
09-10-2011, 03:56 AM
Great. In other news, I'm gonna sleep with more people than Wilt, get more rings than Russell, dunk on Scottie and Michael at the same time, and do it all with 3 of my mates and Bill Simmons at centre.
He doesn't have the team to do it in the next 2 years. And he has a hell of a lot of better competition (Durant, LeBron, and other players that will arise). He's not the best point guard in the NBA. And who was the last great point guard to win a title without another top all time 20-30 player? Don't even think they have. He needs a McHale, he needs a Kobe, he needs a Pippen. Hell he could even make do with a Gasol. But he does not, as much as I admire Deng, he's not that guy. Dwight could be, one day.
Westbrook is arguably as good of a player as Rose. And Westbrook has Durant, and Ibaka, and Harden. Rose has defensive specialists.
1. Rose is better than RW.
2. The Bulls won 62 games this year, saying that the team needs "a Gasol, a McHale" isn't really saying anything. The team NEEDS time to gel, better offensive sets, and Noah/Boozer completely healthy come playoff time.
3. Deng is a solid player and so is Boozer. A team doesn't need a clear cut #1, #2, #3 guy.....as evidenced by the Mavs. People step up at different times in different matchups.
Go Getter
09-10-2011, 03:59 AM
F*ck this Debrick Rose. John Wall is going to be a better PG than this arrogant clown.
Lol...Mr. Wall isn't arrogant but Rose is?
Wall has way more attitude than Rose and less game.
dancing around the court, posturing over highlight plays, fighting with vets (and looking like a punk in the process), sitting out for weeks over a bruise...
:facepalm
Yeah he's a lock to be better than Rose:rolleyes:
andgar923
09-10-2011, 04:02 AM
Dirk Nowitski has a hearty gutteral laugh at this post.
Dirk is a 7'0 player and has a team of good/great veterans. Rose doesn't and won't have the same impact as Dirk. Rose won't win in his current situation, he'd need to either go somewhere else or get a major team upgrade.
Celtics4ever
09-10-2011, 04:04 AM
1. Rose is better than RW.
2. The Bulls won 62 games this year, saying that the team needs "a Gasol, a McHale" isn't really saying anything. The team NEEDS time to gel, better offensive sets, and Noah/Boozer completely healthy come playoff time.
3. Deng is a solid player and so is Boozer. A team doesn't need a clear cut #1, #2, #3 guy.....as evidenced by the Mavs. People step up at different times in different matchups.
Good to know someone else has a brain.
The Bulls were one player away from going to the Finals. They just need a legit SG and the Bulls have a shot at winning for the next 6-7 years.
Go Getter
09-10-2011, 04:37 AM
Dirk is a 7'0 player and has a team of good/great veterans. Rose doesn't and won't have the same impact as Dirk. Rose won't win in his current situation, he'd need to either go somewhere else or get a major team upgrade.
1. Deng, Noah, Korver, Boozer, Bogans, Watson, are good vets.
2. Rose has the same impact as Dirk, maybe even more seeing as though he has the ball more. Remember, Rose shot poorly for one post season...besides that, his shooting % is better than Dirk's. Both have the same (marginal) impact on D. *Btw, Rose's speed impacts the game heavily in many cases. The way he switches ends can change a game at any time...especially in the 4th qrtr vs. a tired team.
3. The Bulls won 62 games this year and with a 3rd year star almost made the finals. What supporting facts say they can't/won't get better?
4. The Bulls only really need an upgrade at the 2 and on the bench....we are one of 4 or 5 teams with a realistic shot in hell to win the title.
knicksman
09-10-2011, 06:13 AM
1. Deng, Noah, Korver, Boozer, Bogans, Watson, are good vets.
2. Rose has the same impact as Dirk, maybe even more seeing as though he has the ball more. Remember, Rose shot poorly for one post season...besides that, his shooting % is better than Dirk's. Both have the same (marginal) impact on D. *Btw, Rose's speed impacts the game heavily in many cases. The way he switches ends can change a game at any time...especially in the 4th qrtr vs. a tired team.
3. The Bulls won 62 games this year and with a 3rd year star almost made the finals. What supporting facts say they can't/won't get better?
4. The Bulls only really need an upgrade at the 2 and on the bench....we are one of 4 or 5 teams with a realistic shot in hell to win the title.
LOL at rose having same impact with dirk..
Almost all teams that won a chip have big men while no team has won with a score first pg. Rose is in the same mold as iverson, marbury, francis who have good stats but are considered cancerous to their teams. And chicago's best chance of winning is this year coz most defense only teams are likely to regress next season.
Go Getter
09-10-2011, 06:22 AM
LOL at rose having same impact with dirk..
Almost all teams that won a chip have big men while no team has won with a score first pg. Rose is in the same mold as iverson, marbury, francis who have good stats but are considered cancerous to their teams. And chicago's best chance of winning is this year coz most defense only teams are likely to regress next season.
1. He does, maybe even more.
2. Rose is a better PG than Iverson and Francis ever were and he's a flat-out better player than Marbury. He is not cancerous to our team...we won 62 games under his leadership.
3. Why is our best chance of winning this year and why are defensive teams likely to regress?
The Mavs and Heat were in the finals without a dominant big man so your whole argument is moot really.
holy ***...
at least in lebrons dunno how serious prediction you could see and understand why they could win multiple championships.... anybody who dont think Miami will win multiple championships are crazy...
but rose? bulls? dunno about that one......
lebron & wade basically played streetball against bulls and killed them.... and rose couldnt do much with lebron & wade defending him.... unless he adds 2-5 hall of famers he aint going anywhere...
dunno.... all i know Rose is surprisingly not getting any flack for this comment like Lebron did?
If this was Lebron.... they would had it on the CNN BREAKING NEWS LIVE FEED 24-7 breaking up a 9/11 Documentary with Obama.......... Protestors running around and screaming: "Oh mi Oh my! Lebron said he is gona win multiple championships! Lets all hate him now! Wut eh terribul perzonnnn!"
knicksman
09-10-2011, 07:01 AM
1. He does, maybe even more.
2. Rose is a better PG than Iverson and Francis ever were and he's a flat-out better player than Marbury. He is not cancerous to our team...we won 62 games under his leadership.
3. Why is our best chance of winning this year and why are defensive teams likely to regress?
The Mavs and Heat were in the finals without a dominant big man so your whole argument is moot really.
What is important is that they have a big man scorer. A big man scorer is more unstoppable than a pg like rose thats why rose cant score against miami defense. Dirk is the most unstoppable player in the league and I would even say top 10 all time. So no, he doesnt have the same impact as dirk. Dirk is even one of those players who can win without a 2nd option or doesnt have a boozer type of player whos a perennial all star.
Go Getter
09-10-2011, 07:57 AM
What is important is that they have a big man scorer. A big man scorer is more unstoppable than a pg like rose thats why rose cant score against miami defense. Dirk is the most unstoppable player in the league and I would even say top 10 all time. So no, he doesnt have the same impact as dirk. Dirk is even one of those players who can win without a 2nd option or doesnt have a boozer type of player whos a perennial all star.
Boy, you must be outta yo rabid ass mind.
Dirk is a 7 footer that shoots 47% for his career. Hardly unstoppable. And definitely NOT in the top tier of scorers like MJ, KAJ, Malone, etc....
Jason Terry played just as well or even BETTER than Dirk in the finals. Shawn Marion balled. Stevenson/Barrea played ok and Kidd was solid.
If Dirk could win without a #2 then why couldn't he win with a HOFer in Nash?
Why did it take him having a team that was darn near stacked full of (albeit past their prime) great supporting players?
Derrick Rose's SPEED impacts games. It makes the other team's defense game plan for that aspect of the Bulls offense.
A big point you're missing is: He (Rose) handles the ball more than Dirk....Dirk depends on guards getting him the ball in the correct spots.
"Big man scorer" insinuates a player that scores in the paint. Dirk scores from the high post like a guard.
Did Bynum/Gasol score well when they won? Did it take a heap of points from TD for the Spurs to win (or did TP/Manu create most of the points?)
Move on from the past...this isn't the 80's/90's....a team can win without a dominant big man....it's pretty evident.
Go Getter
09-10-2011, 08:03 AM
holy ***...
at least in lebrons dunno how serious prediction you could see and understand why they could win multiple championships.... anybody who dont think Miami will win multiple championships are crazy...
but rose? bulls? dunno about that one......
lebron & wade basically played streetball against bulls and killed them.... and rose couldnt do much with lebron & wade defending him.... unless he adds 2-5 hall of famers he aint going anywhere...
dunno.... all i know Rose is surprisingly not getting any flack for this comment like Lebron did?
If this was Lebron.... they would had it on the CNN BREAKING NEWS LIVE FEED 24-7 breaking up a 9/11 Documentary with Obama.......... Protestors running around and screaming: "Oh mi Oh my! Lebron said he is gona win multiple championships! Lets all hate him now! Wut eh terribul perzonnnn!"
So how did Dirk and Jason Terry make your boy look stupid as hell on national TV if a team needs 2-5 HOFs to beat them?
The Heat haven't proven a thing and they shouldn't be the favorites to win anything with their lack of intestinal fortitude.
knicksman
09-10-2011, 08:46 AM
Boy, you must be outta yo rabid ass mind.
Dirk is a 7 footer that shoots 47% for his career. Hardly unstoppable. And definitely NOT in the top tier of scorers like MJ, KAJ, Malone, etc....
The past is past. The fact is he shoots 53% this season and mostly jumpers so that made him one of the top 10 scorers. while youre boy derrick cant even get 50% while getting to the rim always.
Jason Terry played just as well or even BETTER than Dirk in the finals. Shawn Marion balled. Stevenson/Barrea played ok and Kidd was solid.
If Dirk could win without a #2 then why couldn't he win with a HOFer in Nash?
Why did it take him having a team that was darn near stacked full of (albeit past their prime) great supporting players?
jason terry played well coz dirk gets so much attention. Nash at number 2?All I can remember is that he got injured at conference finals and he couldve won again if wade were not given 30 fts during the 2006 finals.
Derrick Rose's SPEED impacts games. It makes the other team's defense game plan for that aspect of the Bulls offense.
A big point you're missing is: He (Rose) handles the ball more than Dirk....Dirk depends on guards getting him the ball in the correct spots.
"Big man scorer" insinuates a player that scores in the paint. Dirk scores from the high post like a guard.
Did Bynum/Gasol score well when they won? Did it take a heap of points from TD for the Spurs to win (or did TP/Manu create most of the points?)
Move on from the past...this isn't the 80's/90's....a team can win without a dominant big man....it's pretty evident.
Who cares if he handles the ball. Thats their role but whens the last time a pg has won again. oh yeah in the 80s thats why youre boy derrick aint winning in this league. If pgs like nash cant even win for 20 years, how much more for your boy derrick whos style(score first pg) hasnt won since the creation of this league.
Yeah big man scorer is someone who scores in the paint coz most big man arent capable of playing like perimeter players. They rely on strength rather than skills. So if you have a big man who has the skills of a perimeter player then he is unstoppable.
Gasol has a case of being mvp in the 2010 playoffs and those 2 could have score more if they are given more touches. And duncan is the 1st option of the spurs. manu and parker are still in their primes, so why cant they win, while duncan have won w/o those 2 or those 2 are still rookies.
This is not the 80s. Well lets see, shaq has 3, duncan has 4, garnett has 1, The wallaces 1,dirk 1 while wade has 1(gifted with 30+ fts), kobe has 2(while having the best frontcourt(gasol, bynum,odom). Thats the reason why miami lost to dallas because they dont have the best frontcourt despite having the 2 best players in the league while dallas has the best frontcourt in the league despite missing its 2nd option in butler.
Go Getter
09-10-2011, 09:17 AM
The past is past. The fact is he shoots 53% this season and mostly jumpers so that made him one of the top 10 scorers. while youre boy derrick cant even get 50% while getting to the rim always.
jason terry played well coz dirk gets so much attention. Nash at number 2?All I can remember is that he got injured at conference finals and he couldve won again if wade were not given 30 fts during the 2006 finals.
Who cares if he handles the ball. Thats their role but whens the last time a pg has won again. oh yeah in the 80s thats why youre boy derrick aint winning in this league. If pgs like nash cant even win for 20 years, how much more for your boy derrick whos style(score first pg) hasnt won since the creation of this league.
Yeah big man scorer is someone who scores in the paint coz most big man arent capable of playing like perimeter players. They rely on strength rather than skills. So if you have a big man who has the skills of a perimeter player then he is unstoppable.
Gasol has a case of being mvp in the 2010 playoffs and those 2 could have score more if they are given more touches. And duncan is the 1st option of the spurs. manu and parker are still in their primes, so why cant they win, while duncan have won w/o those 2 or those 2 are still rookies.
This is not the 80s. Well lets see, shaq has 3, duncan has 4, garnett has 1, The wallaces 1,dirk 1 while wade has 1(gifted with 30+ fts), kobe has 2(while having the best frontcourt(gasol, bynum,odom). Thats the reason why miami lost to dallas because they dont have the best frontcourt despite having the 2 best players in the league while dallas has the best frontcourt in the league despite missing its 2nd option in butler.
No.:no:
quick96
09-10-2011, 09:28 AM
The reason that Derrick Rose is saying that he's going to win multiple championships is because I'm sure he took one for the team.
Most likely jumped into David Sterns bedroom after LeHype James
had just left.
Got DOUBLE C*** both by David and Michael "cupcake" Jordan...
All just to convince Stern that he should be a rightful owner of a championship ring.
It just might be the next ESPN special.
Titled "THE DECISION 2"
PATHETIC!
zay_24
09-10-2011, 09:54 AM
He also said he has a 3pt shot and he did back that up. Looking forward to seeing him play now.
:roll: :roll:
Eat Like A Bosh
09-10-2011, 12:20 PM
I'm not betting on Multiple
Celtics4ever
09-10-2011, 01:50 PM
I'm not a big fan of Rose, but it seems like all you LeBron fans hate on Rose a lot for some reason(especially the idiot PAUK). Are you guys insecure or what? :oldlol:
Lebron23
05-23-2015, 12:42 AM
No Chance in Hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Uc3V8NxKWw
tmacattack33
05-23-2015, 12:43 AM
:oldlol:
Eric Cartman
05-23-2015, 12:48 AM
inb4 he joins the cavs
Magic 32
05-23-2015, 12:54 AM
He can still collude.
Works for most betas.
Let's start with 1 first, Mr. Rose.
RedBlackAttack
05-26-2015, 11:45 PM
In retrospect, I have a lot of respect for the Bulls. They were a LeBron buzzer-beater away from being up 3-1 on us. That Bulls team was tough, physical and never quit. They were the kind of team who would break you or bring you closer together.
There is no doubt in my mind that had they been on ATL's side of the bracket, their physical, relentless play would have broken the Hawks. Unfortunately for them, the two best teams in the conference were on the same side of the bracket.
It might not be any consolation to Bulls fans, but the Cavs are better for having gone through that series. They were tough. And this Cavs team pulled closer together because of it.
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