Position with the least responsibilities?

[jlip]

Assuming that a team employs a traditional system with players who basically fulfill only their most textbook roles, (No hybrid play such as Pippen or Bird running point forward or KG guarding shooting guards by actual assignment) which position would actually have the least responsibilities on the court?

[Clippersfan86]

SG for sure. Your job is to score and play defense... everything else like playmaking, rebounding, setting screens etc aren't as important as it is for the other positions.

[Rekindled]

wing players

[iamgine]

Well how do we measure responsibility? Is scoring more responsibility than rebounding? I'm afraid this question cannot be answered.

[Crown&Coke]

this can vary by personnel.

In the triangle offense, Luc Longley only had to run baseline to baseline on offense and set screens and shoot jumpers. Shaq got to play from either side of the paint, and routinely moved from one side to the other getting easy duck in's when he sealed his guy. Probably bad example as only one team employed this offense and Shaq was, well Shaq.

The PF normally only has to dribble in a 3 foot radius, shoot the open 15 footer, and rebound. But they also had to bang and be physical, that can be very hard sometimes.

In NY, JVG used Oakley from 15 feet on offense. When he got LJ he played him all over the court.

[Clippersfan86]

What we can all agree on I'm sure is that PG then Center are the hands down most difficult positions in the NBA.

[NumberSix]

Kobe

[pauk]

1. SG <---- least responsibilities
2. SF
3. PF
4. Combo-Guard
5. C
6. PG
7. Point-Forward <---- most responsibilities

[NumberSix]

1. SG <---- least responsibilities
2. SF
3. PF
4. Combo-Guard
5. C
6. PG
7. Point-Forward <---- most responsibilities
Don't be an obvious jock rider

[pauk]

Don't be an obvious jock rider

what?

point-forward = offensively your job is to run the offense like a PG, play of the ball sometimes and score like a SG/SF, you will often start different positions, up to 4 positions.... defensively you defend up to 4 positions (even some Centers).... you are basically the most versatile player in the NBA and therefore have the responsibilities of multiple positions...

:hammerhead:

magic.. pippen.. penny... lebron.. oscar.. prime grant hill... or even larry bird somewhat... thats why they were pure awesomeness... Point-Forward is a rarity...

[kaiiu]

depends on team needs.

[pauk]

depends on team needs.

what team doesnt need a point-forward? he can fill in at any role/position and dominate.... :pimp:

[tpols]

what team doesnt need a point-forward? he can fill in at any role/position and dominate.... :pimp:
What are you talking about? Lebron needs the ball in his hands for 10 or more seconds to make a play. He cant catch and shoot. He has no off the ball game. He isn't a great spot up shooter. He cant set screens. He cant play down on the post nearly as effectively as most decent big men can. Where's the versatility?

There are plenty of teams that Lebron wouldn't fit on.. pretty much any team with talented players that stresses ball movement and teamwork.

[Clippersfan86]

What are you talking about? Lebron needs the ball in his hands for 10 or more seconds to make a play. He cant catch and shoot. He has no off the ball game. He isn't a great spot up shooter. He cant set screens. He cant play down on the post nearly as effectively as most decent big men can. Where's the versatility?

There are plenty of teams that Lebron wouldn't fit on.. pretty much any team with talented players that stresses ball movement and teamwork.

Not only that but Point Forward is far from a must have considering how rare they are.

Pippen
Lebron
Bird
Rick Barry
Grant Hill
KG?

and a handful of other lesser known players like Lamar Odom.

[rodman91]

what team doesnt need a point-forward? he can fill in at any role/position and dominate.... :pimp:

point forwards are luxury but ball hogging not.

[PowerGlove]

What are you talking about? Lebron needs the ball in his hands for 10 or more seconds to make a play. He cant catch and shoot. He has no off the ball game. He isn't a great spot up shooter. He cant set screens. He cant play down on the post nearly as effectively as most decent big men can. Where's the versatility?

There are plenty of teams that Lebron wouldn't fit on.. pretty much any team with talented players that stresses ball movement and teamwork.

This is pure bullshit. Lebron wouldnt fit on a team that stresses ball movement and teamwork? :facepalm Really?

[tpols]

This is pure bullshit. Lebron wouldnt fit on a team that stresses ball movement and teamwork? :facepalm Really?
We saw it this year.:oldlol:

Lebron was MUCH more dominant with the cavs than he was with the Heat because he got to control the ball more. He still produced very well on the Heat, but clearly not as well as his strengths could have allowed.

And every single year of Lebron's career, he never has played on a team that has actually RAN an offense.

Mike Brown=defensive coach who coasted on Lebron's ball dominating skills to carry the offense.

Erik Spoelstra=defensive coach who relied on the iso abilities of three superstars to carry the offense.

He's never played in a traditional offense where the ball is passed around over and over looking for the best shot. It's just give Lebron the ball and he'll either score in an iso set, or he'll dish it when the help comes. Thats it.

It would be hilarious to compare his overall floor game to a guy like Pippen, who was much more versatile and knew all the spots to be in when he didn't have the ball[an essential skill when you're playing with other great players].

[MasterDurant24]

Not only that but Point Forward is far from a must have considering how rare they are.

Pippen
Lebron
Bird
Rick Barry
Grant Hill
KG?
and a handful of other lesser known players like Lamar Odom.
Chris Webber was alot more of a point forward than KG. But yea, i wouldnt consider point forwards in this considering their rarity.

[kaiiu]

Well said Tpols. I couldn't even imagine Lebrick succeeding with a coach like Pop who likes movement.

[PTB Fan]

Shooting Guard. Your job is to score and defend.

As for the toughest, forget point forward and point guard, it's 1000% the center's position. Outside of scoring in the paint, controlling the glass, establishing as a presence in the paint, a center must also make good screens, to block shots, to cover a mistake of a team mate, to be efficient in close calls etc...

Great centers are tough to find.

[QuebecBaller]

12th man on the bench

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Depends. The responsibilities of positions vary from team to team.

For example, before he got injured, Brandon Roy had to not only score and defend but also run and set up the offense for the Blazers (they were one of the slowest paced teams in the league).

Kobe did LOTS of ball-handling and playmaking in the first 3 peat. He didn't just score and defend.

Some big men have to score and defend the paint like Duncan, Shaq or KG. Some just have to be a big body to use fouls and protect the rim like Emeka Okafor or Joakim Noah.

Not all PGs have to run and offense. Like Derek Fisher. Even before he got old, he was never a traditional PG that had to create for others. Or look at Rose, not only does he have to set everyone else up he has to take on the scoring load as well.

[tpols]

Every position has its responsibilities.. it is up to the player himself how far he goes with them.

You cant say it's harder for a great PG to run an offense or a great center to anchor a defense than it is for a great SG to be a great scorer. You may think the PG and the C are more impactful in what they are doing, but every position has an equal amount of responsibilities to be handled.. Some just tend to effect the game more.

[iamgine]

SG for sure. Your job is to score and play defense... everything else like playmaking, rebounding, setting screens etc aren't as important as it is for the other positions.
Actually not only that. Shooting guard is traditionally the secondary ball handler as well. Ideally, he must be able to score in various ways; slashing, shooting, starting fast breaks, etc. Must have good off the ball movement and be able to create his own shot too. Must also be a decent passer in case of double teams. Not to mention stopping the other team's shooting guard, who often is the best scorer if we follow job description. That sounds like a lot of responsibility to me.

[Clippersfan86]

Chris Webber was alot more of a point forward than KG. But yea, i wouldnt consider point forwards in this considering their rarity.

I was going to put Chris in here... but just wanted to give a few for an example.

[Clippersfan86]

Actually not only that. Shooting guard is traditionally the secondary ball handler as well. Ideally, he must be able to score in various ways; slashing, shooting, starting fast breaks, etc. Must have good off the ball movement and be able to create his own shot too. Must also be a decent passer in case of double teams. Not to mention stopping the other team's shooting guard, who often is the best scorer if we follow job description. That sounds like a lot of responsibility to me.

Every position has secondary jobs. I'm just saying all around SG's followed by SF's have it the easiest and it's not even close. We know PG and C are the hardest and that leaves PF. PF's constantly bang in the post and have to rebound as well as work on outlet passing from the rebound. Sure you can play like Pau Gasol and not do these things.... but the OP clearly stated TRADITIONAL roles. That means PF's and C's in the paint, not shooting 20 footers.

[iamgine]

Every position has secondary jobs. I'm just saying all around SG's followed by SF's have it the easiest and it's not even close. We know PG and C are the hardest and that leaves PF. PF's constantly bang in the post and have to rebound as well as work on outlet passing from the rebound. Sure you can play like Pau Gasol and not do these things.... but the OP clearly stated TRADITIONAL roles. That means PF's and C's in the paint, not shooting 20 footers.
So by the easiest do you mean they don't have to bang around?

[Clippersfan86]

So by the easiest do you mean they don't have to bang around?

I've played 1-5. Sure not at the NBA level... but in HS, Rec and pick up ball. It's really not hard to see why the wing/perimeter positions are the easiest. There is a lot more you can do wrong as a PG, C and even PF.

[rodman91]

Both KG and Webber aren't point forwards.They got skills for sure.

[blablabla]

the position jr smith plays

[jlip]

WOW! Some people managed to actually turn this into a Kobe vs. Lebron thread. :facepalm

Anyways, I do understand that many variables were left out of the OP, but one thing that was specific was that the team's system was traditional...no triangle offense which doesn't require a pg and no hybrid players whereas forwards and shooting guards were functioning as point guards.

[knicksman]

1. SG <---- least responsibilities
2. SF
3. PF
4. Combo-Guard
5. C
6. PG
7. Point-Forward <---- most responsibilities

once again pauks low IQ has been exposed. The op said no hybrid

[Teanett]

oral sex while lying on the back

[iamgine]

I've played 1-5. Sure not at the NBA level... but in HS, Rec and pick up ball. It's really not hard to see why the wing/perimeter positions are the easiest. There is a lot more you can do wrong as a PG, C and even PF.
Rec/pickup ball? Duh, you can just stand outside, shoot and defend in rec/pickup situation.

But a real traditional SG has a lot more responsibility than that.

[Mr. Jabbar]

lebron on the 4ths obviously. unless you think spectators got responsibilities...

[PowerGlove]

We saw it this year.:oldlol:

Lebron was MUCH more dominant with the cavs than he was with the Heat because he got to control the ball more. He still produced very well on the Heat, but clearly not as well as his strengths could have allowed.

And every single year of Lebron's career, he never has played on a team that has actually RAN an offense.

Mike Brown=defensive coach who coasted on Lebron's ball dominating skills to carry the offense.

Erik Spoelstra=defensive coach who relied on the iso abilities of three superstars to carry the offense.

He's never played in a traditional offense where the ball is passed around over and over looking for the best shot. It's just give Lebron the ball and he'll either score in an iso set, or he'll dish it when the help comes. Thats it.

It would be hilarious to compare his overall floor game to a guy like Pippen, who was much more versatile and knew all the spots to be in when he didn't have the ball[an essential skill when you're playing with other great players].
You say we saw that this year and then go onto say that he's never been on a team that ran an actual offense....:rolleyes:

[Phong]

lebron on the 4ths obviously. unless you think spectators got responsibilities...:applause:

[Lebron23]

Shooting Guard and small forward.


Most difficult position to play are the Pg and Center position. You need a point guard who's has an excellent court vision, good decision maker, good ball handler, and he needs to be capable of breaking down the defense on the perimeter.

Your Center needs to be a good rebounder, and shot blocker. He's the one who's going to be blame if the opposing team easily drives, scores, and penetrates the basket.

[navy]

This thread is stupid. Your responsibility depends on your team and skill level not position.

[Heisenberg]

LOL! Every position in the court has its own importance.

[Bandito]

I think SF is the one with the least responsibilities. Like what do they do?

[Lebron23]

I think SF is the one with the least responsibilities. Like what do they do?


They are a taller and a better rebounding shooting guard.

[Bandito]

They are a taller and a better rebounding shooting guard.
But SG has to share playmaking responsibilities with the PG. What does the SF does? He is the most hybrid of the players on the court. Not really a guard but not really a center anyways. These days the are mostly backcourt players, another SG to say the least.

[INDI]

This is pure bullshit. Lebron wouldnt fit on a team that stresses ball movement and teamwork? :facepalm Really?

I think what hes saying is that lebron isnt capable of filling a role like say if you put him on the spurs. They would have to change their offense to cater to him instead of just replacing him with kawhi.

You know for a fact that bron wouldnt let parker be the ball dominant pg that hes been over the years and would want to take control of the offensive flow from him

[ZenMaster]

What a stupid thread.

[ZenMaster]

I think what hes saying is that lebron isnt capable of filling a role like say if you put him on the spurs. They would have to change their offense to cater to him instead of just replacing him with kawhi.

You know for a fact that bron wouldnt let parker be the ball dominant pg that hes been over the years and would want to take control of the offensive flow from him

Hold on, so you don't think Lebron could play Kawhi's role? Really?

You don't HAVE to change your to fit Lebrons capabilities, you do it because he's the best player in the game.

[tragicbronson]

Hold on, so you don't think Lebron could play Kawhi's role? Really?

You don't HAVE to change your to fit Lebrons capabilities, you do it because he's the best player in the game.

Stupid stupid thread, every position has it's responsibility in a TEAM and this doesn't make sense and it's stupid.

[GoranDragon]

Juwan Howard.

[BoutPractice]

Owner, if you're rich enough.

[AintNoSunshine]

most of today's centers are pretty useless

[scm5]

Today's game, Centers.

These days all they expect out of you is being able to rebound and play defense... scoring is optional

[Crafty]

Juwan Howard.
Not a player anymore