Euroleague 2011-12 Rosters

[Euroleague]

This is where we can talk about the rosters of the teams of Euroleague 2011-12.

http://www.euroleague.net/resourceserver/619/cfecfe47-de21-4258-9218-a44fd0a5647b/ab1/rglang/en-US/filename/cfe.jpg

Since some NBA fans here get so pissy about any thread about the Euroleague, I will highlight all the players on these rosters that are NBA draft picks and/or have played in the NBA. That way you can't troll this thread and say it has "nothing to do with the NBA."

[Euroleague]

Panathinaikos B.C. Athens (Greek League) 1st place:

http://cdn.euroleague.net/rs/32900/665343d4-1b29-4bdf-ba26-c9e7e7af2c77/875/filename/665.png

Budget: €25 million euros

PG Nick Calathes/David Logan/Fotios Zoumpos
SG Romain Sato/Sarunas Jasikevicius/Alexandros Kyritsis
SF Dimitris Diamantidis/Stratos Perperoglou/Pat Calathes
PF Steven Smith/Kostas Tsartsaris/Kostas Kaimakoglou
C Mike Batiste/Aleks Maric/Ian Vougioukas

Loan:

PF Kyprianos Maragkos (age 17)
C Georgi Shermadini


Practice Squad:

PG Ioannis Karamalegos (age 17)
SF Andreas Giannikos (age 16)
C Ioannis Dimakopoulos (age 16)

[Euroleague]

Olympiacos B.C. Piraeus (Greek League) 2nd place:

http://cdn.euroleague.net/rs/21597/665343d4-1b29-4bdf-ba26-c9e7e7af2c77/2a0/filename/665.png

Budget: €21.5 million euros

PG Vassilis Spanoulis/Kalin Lucas/Vangelis Mantzaris
SG Martynas Gecevicius/Dimitrios Tsaldaris/Michalis Pelekanos
SF Marko Keselj/Panagiotis Vasilopoulos/Kostas Papanikoloau
PF Kyle Hines/Matt Howard/Georgios Printezis
C Pero Antic/Lazaros Papadopoulos/Andreas Glyniadakis

Loan:

PG Kostas Sloukas
SG Dimitrios Katsivelis
SF Charalampos Giannopoulos
PF Ioannis Karathanasis

Practice Squad:

PG Vangelis Spanos (age 18)

[Euroleague]

P.A.O.K. B.C. Thessaloniki (Greek League) 3rd place:

http://cdn.euroleague.net/rs/29106/665343d4-1b29-4bdf-ba26-c9e7e7af2c77/74c/filename/665.png

Budget: €5 million euros

PG Rashad Wright/Dante Stiggers/Pavlos Savvides
SG Ioannis Kalampokis/Michail Giannakidis/Michalis Kazakos
SF J.R. Giddens/Dimitrios Kalampakas/Dimitris Arapis
PF Marcus Goree/Efthymios Tsakaleris/Anastasios Spyropoulos
C Dimos Dikoudis/Martynas Andriuskevicius/Nikos Kalles

Practice Squad:

PG Dimitris Tsemetzis (age 18)
PG Thomas Amparas (age 17)
SG Michalis Liapis (age 16)
SG Nikos Papadopoulos

[Theoo's Daddy]

what team does corey maggette play for ?

[Maniak]

http://insidehoops.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6

[JGXEN]

The Minnesota Wolves with their 2010-2011 squad would trash those scrubs.

[Euroleague]

The Minnesota Wolves with their 2010-2011 squad would trash those scrubs.

It would not surprise me if the Wolves might even have problems with PAOK. Against PAO or Olympiacos the Wolves would lose.

[Go Getter]

So Calathes is really their starting PG? And you swear this league is better than the NBA?

[All Net]

So who are the main contenders this year in the euroleague?

I want to get into it this year and watch some games

[alenleomessi]

[QUOTE=Euroleague]P.A.O.K. B.C. Thessaloniki (Greek League) 3rd place:

http://cdn.euroleague.net/rs/29106/665343d4-1b29-4bdf-ba26-c9e7e7af2c77/74c/filename/665.png

Budget:

[CeltsGarlic]

http://zalgirioarena.lt/images/22112533778.jpeg


Roster

Ty Lawson, Kalnietis(dunk), DeJuan Collins
M.Popovic(3pt), Delininkaitis(3pt)
S.Weems(dunk), Kumzinskas(3pt)(dunk), Milaknis(3pt)
Jankunas, Klimavicius(dunk), Samhan(nothing jk.jk.)
Javtokas(defense), Rakovic(dunk).

I even added abilities :D

[Euroleague]

where is gecevski?

He got injured.

[Euroleague]

http://zalgirioarena.lt/images/22112533778.jpeg


Roster

Ty Lawson, Kalnietis(dunk), DeJuan Collins
M.Popovic(3pt), Delininkaitis(3pt)
S.Weems(dunk), Kumzinskas(3pt)(dunk), Milaknis(3pt)
Jankunas, Klimavicius(dunk), Samhan(nothing jk.jk.)
Javtokas(defense), Rakovic(dunk).

I even added abilities :D

Back court is too small.

[Go Getter]

http://zalgirioarena.lt/images/22112533778.jpeg


Roster

Ty Lawson, Kalnietis(dunk), DeJuan Collins
M.Popovic(3pt), Delininkaitis(3pt)
S.Weems(dunk), Kumzinskas(3pt)(dunk), Milaknis(3pt)
Jankunas, Klimavicius(dunk), Samhan(nothing jk.jk.)
Javtokas(defense), Rakovic(dunk).

I even added abilities :D
Ty Lawson (speed/ballhandling?)

[Euroleague]

So Calathes is really their starting PG? And you swear this league is better than the NBA?

Someone here claimed the Wolves would own these teams........

Calathes sure the hell isn't very good at all, but is probably 100 times better than Ricky Rubio is. The same Ricky Rubio that is the starting point guard in the NBA.

Besides, European teams go by minutes played, not by starter/bench. Unlike the NBA, most European teams don't have such caste systems.

Calathes is like the 5th-6th best guard on the team.

[Go Getter]

Someone here claimed the Wolves would own these teams........

Calathes sure the hell isn't very good at all, but is probably 100 times better than Ricky Rubio is. The same Ricky Rubio that is the starting point guard in the NBA.

Besides, European teams go by minutes played, not by starter/bench. Unlike the NBA, most European teams don't have such caste systems.

Calathes is like the 5th-6th best guard on the team.


Ricky Rubio hasn't played in one single NBA game so why would you type this lie?

[mattvNJ]

^^ all he does is lie lol. i haven't been on this board and took a little time to start posting and he just posts nonsense and bs quotes with a real source 90% of the time

[KGMN]

Ricky Rubio hasn't played in one single NBA game so why would you type this lie?

Nor has he ever started an NBA game, and it's possible that Luke Ridnour will start at the beginning of the season, although unlikely.

Euroleague - have you ever seen Rubio play for DKV Joventut, or only when he played for Regal Bar

[madmax]

http://zalgirioarena.lt/images/22112533778.jpeg


Roster

Ty Lawson, Kalnietis(dunk), DeJuan Collins
M.Popovic(3pt), Delininkaitis(3pt)
S.Weems(dunk), Kumzinskas(3pt)(dunk), Milaknis(3pt)
Jankunas, Klimavicius(dunk), Samhan(nothing jk.jk.)
Javtokas(defense), Rakovic(dunk).

I even added abilities :D

LMAO:lol :D Javtokas' defense is hugely overrated nowadays too

[Euroleague]

Ricky Rubio hasn't played in one single NBA game so why would you type this lie?

The General Manager of the Wolves already said Rubio will be the starting point guard.

[Euroleague]

[QUOTE=KGMN]Nor has he ever started an NBA game, and it's possible that Luke Ridnour will start at the beginning of the season, although unlikely.

Euroleague - have you ever seen Rubio play for DKV Joventut, or only when he played for Regal Bar

[Rnbizzle]

Lawson going for euroleague mvp

[Sakkreth]

Lawson going for euroleague mvp

So far he looks far from being best player on the team, and there is still 4 players from Lithuania national team who haven't joined the team yet.

[Sakkreth]

LMAO:lol :D Javtokas' defense is hugely overrated nowadays too

Rytas have no chance and you know it :banana:

[KGMN]

Joventut is barely a mid level of European basketball. What him and Fernandez did there was irrelevant. NBA fans never seemed able to grasp that.

The thing is, Barcelona did absolutely nothing to help the development of Rubio's game. They just used him as a player who had the potential to become a great player, but if that didn't work out, he would always be a solid player who could find the open man at any time and direct the offense when necessary. They didn't care that he wasn't shooting or scoring well, and they didn't do anything to try to improve it. They were satisfied with his passing ability and his ability to direct the offense.

[MeLO MvP 15]

Typical Euroleague, someone says Calathes starts in the Euroleague shows how weak the talent is (which is a very true point) and he instantly has to say he sucks and is one of the worst players. Really so any American or NBA player instantly sucks? What about Anthony Parker?

[Euroleague]

The thing is, Barcelona did absolutely nothing to help the development of Rubio's game. They just used him as a player who had the potential to become a great player, but if that didn't work out, he would always be a solid player who could find the open man at any time and direct the offense when necessary. They didn't care that he wasn't shooting or scoring well, and they didn't do anything to try to improve it. They were satisfied with his passing ability and his ability to direct the offense.

Barca was more patient and gave Rubio more chances than any Euroleague team ever would have. They won games despite him. He would never in a million years get the same chances he got in any other Euroleague club with how awful he played.

He was the 4th best point guard on his team the last two years and still managed to play about 23 minutes a game in a huge club like Barca.

If he would have been playing for a (by NBA standards) semi demanding coach like Obradovic he would have been barely playing at all. If he would have been playing for a hard ass old school type (by NBA standards) coach like Ivanovic, he would have been cut from the team very quickly.

VERY few coaches in Euroleague would have ever put up with Rubio's awful play like Pascual did. And yet, people in the US are blaming him for "not developing Rubio". The truth is that he would not have even been playing on most Euroleague teams and certainly on big Euroleague teams. Hell, on a team like CSKA he would have played like that for 2 weeks and would have been sent on loan for 2 years to some small domestic club.

Barca and their coaching staff was extremely patient and lenient with Rubio. He will be lucky for sure if Adelman is anywhere near as patient with him.

[Euroleague]

Typical Euroleague, someone says Calathes starts in the Euroleague shows how weak the talent is (which is a very true point) and he instantly has to say he sucks and is one of the worst players. Really so any American or NBA player instantly sucks? What about Anthony Parker?

Calathes is the 5th to 6th best guard on Panathinaikos. This is a fact. Or are you actually trying to argue that a guy that averaged 3-5 points a game in 15 minutes the last 2 years is their lead guard?

You take NBA only fan delusion to a whole new level.

Once again....since you seem very slow, Euroleague does not have "starters" and "bench". It is not a caste system like the NBA. You can be the league MVP and come off the bench. It does NOT work like that NBA where there is a caste system.

There is no such thing as a "starter"/"bench" player.

Once again, you talk trash without even knowing what the hell you are even talking about.

Perfect example is Rubio. The worst of the 12 players on Barca's roster and was usually a "starter". In fact, most European teams usually like to bring at least some of the best players off the bench. How Manu is used by the Spurs is TYPICAL and COMMON place in Euroleague.

They don't believe in the stupid "this is a starter", "this is a bench player" like the NBA does. Players are expected to be used however the coach wants to use them. Even a league MVP or playoff MVP would be expected to come off the bench and it is done all the time.

[Math2]

Typical Euroleague, someone says Calathes starts in the Euroleague shows how weak the talent is (which is a very true point) and he instantly has to say he sucks and is one of the worst players. Really so any American or NBA player instantly sucks? What about Anthony Parker?

Typical person that gets stoned by him once. First thing he says when he disagrees with something he says is Anthony Parker. Why don't you learn the Euro game is different than the NBA game?

[MeLO MvP 15]

Calathes is the 5th to 6th best guard on Panathinaikos. This is a fact. Or are you actually trying to argue that a guy that averaged 3-5 points a game in 15 minutes the last 2 years is their lead guard?

You take NBA only fan delusion to a whole new level.
It has more to do with the fact that you insist any non-European player is a scrub and that the NBA has less talent than the Euroleague. It's funny because if you were to make an all star team of the Euroleague and have them play any NBA team, any NBA team would win.

[Euroleague]

It has more to do with the fact that you insist any non-European player is a scrub and that the NBA has less talent than the Euroleague. It's funny because if you were to make an all star team of the Euroleague and have them play any NBA team, any NBA team would win.

It has to do with you constantly talking trash about things you know nothing about. Go look up how Calathes played and you tell me with a stright face that he is the lead guard of that team.

As for Parker, again you talk total trash without know what the hell you are talking about. He averaged 14 a game in the Euroleague, left, went to the NBA and averaged 12-13 in the season and 14 in the playoffs the next two years in the NBA.

According to you he "dominated NBA" since he was just as good or better in the NBA than he was in Euroleague.

Do you ever care to learn than a Euroleague MVP candidate is nominated by fans in the arenas? That these candidates are then placed on the Euroleague website and the fans vote online unlimited as much as they want (same IP can vote once a day) on the who the MVP is?

Do you ever care to grasp that the Euroleague MVP media voters are instructed that they can ONLY vote for someone that is on a final four team (the conference finals in the NBA)...........

That the media voters are instructed and supposed to base the vote on "TEAM play", and NOT individual play?

This has been explained so many times in this forum and yet morons like you come in here and just say "PARKER" like a hit and run in every discussion where Euroleague is mentioned. The same people having clearly never even seen a Euroleague game. Never mind that you always never mention that Parker as a starter in the NBA had pretty much the same stats in the NBA and NBA playoffs as he did before he left the Euroleague, when he was the "MVP".

You talk trash about crap and have no idea that you are even wrong about it. Then you turn around and call people talking about simple truth "trolls".

[Euroleague]

Typical person that gets stoned by him once. First thing he says when he disagrees with something he says is Anthony Parker. Why don't you learn the Euro game is different than the NBA game?

I think it is pretty clear and obvious that most American NBA fans are racist. Their attitude and opinions about any basketball played outside the United States is so illogical, so irrational, and so delusional that it is obviously stemming from something else besides just normal xenophobia, patriotism, ignorance, zealotry.

It's pretty clear that most American NBA fans associate the NBA and Team USA to "blacks", and that they associate FIBA competitions and Euroleague to "whites".

And most American NBA fans make it very clear that they believe only black people can play basketball.

It's 100% true that the opinions most American NBA fans have about the Euroleague is completely fictional and totally imagined nonsense.

[madmax]

It has to do with you constantly talking trash about things you know nothing about. Go look up how Calathes played and you tell me with a stright face that he is the lead guard of that team.

As for Parker, again you talk total trash without know what the hell you are talking about. He averaged 14 a game in the Euroleague, left, went to the NBA and averaged 12-13 in the season and 14 in the playoffs the next two years in the NBA.

According to you he "dominated NBA" since he was just as good or better in the NBA than he was in Euroleague.

Do you ever care to learn than a Euroleague MVP candidate is nominated by fans in the arenas? That these candidates are then placed on the Euroleague website and the fans vote online unlimited as much as they want (same IP can vote once a day) on the who the MVP is?

Do you ever care to grasp that the Euroleague MVP media voters are instructed that they can ONLY vote for someone that is on a final four team (the conference finals in the NBA)...........

That the media voters are instructed and supposed to base the vote on "TEAM play", and NOT individual play?

This has been explained so many times in this forum and yet morons like you come in here and just say "PARKER" like a hit and run in every discussion where Euroleague is mentioned. The same people having clearly never even seen a Euroleague game. Never mind that you always never mention that Parker as a starter in the NBA had pretty much the same stats in the NBA and NBA playoffs as he did before he left the Euroleague, when he was the "MVP".

You talk trash about crap and have no idea that you are even wrong about it. Then you turn around and call people talking about simple truth "trolls".

so true LOL:oldlol:
This "Parker dominated Euroleague" nonsense is really getting out of hand here lately. In fact he wasn't even the leader of those Maccabi teams back then - Jasikevicius was. Yes, the same unathletic, slow white guard, who could barely get any playing time for Pacers. Yet he was closing out the most important games in Euroleague for various teams with his passing and shooting prowess. It's like banging your head against the wall with these NBA fans:facepalm

[Heavincent]

I think it is pretty clear and obvious that most American NBA fans are racist. Their attitude and opinions about any basketball played outside the United States is so illogical, so irrational, and so delusional that it is obviously stemming from something else besides just normal xenophobia, patriotism, ignorance, zealotry.

It's pretty clear that most American NBA fans associate the NBA and Team USA to "blacks", and that they associate FIBA competitions and Euroleague to "whites".

And most American NBA fans make it very clear that they believe only black people can play basketball.

It's 100% true that the opinions most American NBA fans have about the Euroleague is completely fictional and totally imagined nonsense.

How is Arkansas treating you? I hear the weather is nice there this time of year.

[Go Getter]

so true LOL:oldlol:
This "Parker dominated Euroleague" nonsense is really getting out of hand here lately. In fact he wasn't even the leader of those Maccabi teams back then - Jasikevicius was. Yes, the same unathletic, slow white guard, who could barely get any playing time for Pacers. Yet he was closing out the most important games in Euroleague for various teams with his passing and shooting prowess. It's like banging your head against the wall with these NBA fans:facepalm


Yet he was average to poor in the NBA.

Which brings us to the point that this boils down to.


NBA>>>>>Euroleagues


Now there are definitely many things I do not like about the NBA and the hubris of NBA players is a big part of that....but the truth is there. We field a superior league here in the US, the creme of the crop plays HERE.

[Jan95]

So you make thread of Euroleague Rosters and put just rosters of Greek clubs in here?

Oh, well... I am going to add for
Union Olimpija Ljubljana:
PG: Woodside/Čapin
SG: ?/Salin/Blažič
SF: Green/Bertans/Muric
PF: Thompson/Markota/Jagodnik
C: Varda/Rothbart

Thompson will probably be moved to C. I don`t know what Filipovski will do with 3 SFs. Maybe Green as a starting SG, if they wont sign any other, and then Muric/Bertans starting on SF.

[chains5000]

http://www.patxilopez.com/wp-content/upload/Bilbao-basket.jpg

PG: Aaron Jackson/Ra

[OmniStrife]

http://i.imgur.com/JKrle.png



PG: Jordan Farmar / Theo Papaloukas / Yogev Ohayon
SG: Jon Scheyer / Tal Burstein
SF: Devin Smith / Guy Pnini
PF: Lior Eliyahu / Richard Hendrix / David Blu
CT: Sofoklis Schortsanitis / Shawn James / Milan Mačvan

[Euroleague]

[QUOTE=chains5000]http://www.patxilopez.com/wp-content/upload/Bilbao-basket.jpg

PG: Aaron Jackson/Ra

[AirTupac]

I'm gonna go try out for one of these teams. I might be able to start.

[BlackJoker23]

I'm gonna go try out for one of these teams. I might be able to start.
come on bro dont sell urself short. i see a future mvp in you. anthony parker potential may be better

[Euroleague]

http://i.imgur.com/JKrle.png



PG: Jordan Farmar / Theo Papaloukas / Yogev Ohayon
SG: Jon Scheyer / Tal Burstein
SF: Devin Smith / Guy Pnini
PF: Lior Eliyahu / Richard Hendrix / David Blu
CT: Sofoklis Schortsanitis / Shawn James / Milan Mačvan

As far as I know, Scheyer was never drafted by the NBA and never played in the NBA. Also, as far as I know, Devin Smith was never drafted by the NBA and never played in the NBA.

Also, I believe that Macvan was drafted by the NBA. I also believe that Hendrix was an NBA draft pick as well.

So it should actually be:

PG: Jordan Farmar / Theo Papaloukas / Yogev Ohayon
SG: Jon Scheyer / Tal Burstein
SF: Devin Smith / Guy Pnini
PF: Lior Eliyahu / Richard Hendrix / David Blu
CT: Sofoklis Schortsanitis / Shawn James / Milan Mačvan

[AirTupac]

come on bro dont sell urself short. i see a future mvp in you. anthony parker potential may be better

Really? Idk man, I want some competition though but I do need the money.

[Bosnian Sajo]

Euroleague is good, but why even compare them with the NBA :/

NBA Teams play their preseason games against euroleague teams, sometimes not even using starters, and win.

[Euroleague]

Euroleague is good, but why even compare them with the NBA :/

NBA Teams play their preseason games against euroleague teams, sometimes not even using starters, and win.

NBA in its history is 9-5 against Euroleague teams using mixed NBA/FIBA rules. And the Euroleague teams always play there "bench" as much or more than the NBA teams do in those games. Unbelievable as it might be to you, those are also preseason games for Euroleague teams. And despite the untrue myth that NBA fans have created, the Euroleague teams are usually using 12-13 player rotations in those games.

Euroleague teams are using just as big, or an even bigger rotation, as compared to the NBA teams in those games. 9-5, that is the NBA's record with the mixed rules.

And keep in mind that even in those games, 2 out of the 3 refs are NBA refs.

Yeah, how could anyone possibly think the Euroleague can be compared to the NBA, with such incredible "domination" as an all time record of 9-5, even in games with 2 of the 3 refs being from the NBA...........

[Bosnian Sajo]

NBA in its history is 9-5 against Euroleague teams using mixed NBA/FIBA rules. And the Euroleague teams always play there "bench" as much or more than the NBA teams do in those games. Unbelievable as it might be to you, those are also preseason games for Euroleague teams. And despite the untrue myth that NBA fans have created, the Euroleague teams are usually using 12-13 player rotations in those games.

Euroleague teams are using just as big, or an even bigger rotation, as compared to the NBA teams in those games. 9-5, that is the NBA's record with the mixed rules.

And keep in mind that even in those games, 2 out of the 3 refs are NBA refs.

Yeah, how could anyone possibly think the NBA can be compared to the NBA, with such incredible "domination" as an all time record of 9-5, even in games with 2 of the 3 refs being from the NBA...........


lol @bold

But werent the teams that played those euroleague teams usually the nets and knicks?

[chains5000]

That's a really nice team. Especially since they just have a mid-sized budget.

Do you know what is going to happen with Pappas? He was trying to get a contract with PAO but they decided to sign Kyritsis instead. Then he tried to get a contract with Olympiacos and they signed Mantzaris instead.

Is he going to be released by Bilbao? Put on loan again?
He's never gonna play here, but that's all I know

[Jasi]

Olimpia Milano

Pg Cook / Giachetti / Filloy
Sg Nicholas / Hairston
Sf Gallinari / Viggiano
Pf Fotsis / Mancinelli / Melli
C Bourousis / Radosevic / Rocca

[chains5000]

Olimpia Milano

Pg Cook / Giachetti / Filloy
Sg Nicholas / Hairston
Sf Gallinari / Viggiano
Pf Fotsis / Mancinelli / Melli
C Bourousis / Radosevic / Rocca
Looks good but there's a HUGE problem (http://www.blogdeportistas.com/files/uploads/scariolo-se-prepara-para-el-eurobasket.jpg) with your team...

[Jasi]

Looks good but there's a HUGE problem (http://www.blogdeportistas.com/files/uploads/scariolo-se-prepara-para-el-eurobasket.jpg) with your team...

At least he brought us these huge players. Without him most wouldn't have come.

And at least he managed not to lose Eurobasket :-)

[chains5000]

At least he brought us these huge players. Without him most wouldn't have come.

And at least he managed not to lose Eurobasket :-)
Can't stand him...

[chains5000]

For those who want to start watching Euroleague games, the Spanish Supercup is this Friday and Saturday, featuring the 4 Spanish Euroleague teams.