NBA owners, players agree to surprise SUNDAY NIGHT MEETING!

[insidehoops]

There were no meetings expected today or tomorrow, but with cancelation of regular season games looming Monday, suddenly owners and players are reportedly changing plans and meeting TONIGHT!

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[HylianNightmare]

good

[ukballer]

Bets on them making little to no progress?

[Zackmorris]

Better get their shit together

[DuMa]

im now 1% OPTIMISTIC of a full season now rather than 0% yesterday

[DevilsAssassin]

SO LET ME GET THIS straight

The players are looking to get a 53% deal, while the owners want a split 50-50?

[King$Ofα∂є]

Nothing is going to happen. It's going to be the same story over and over; "Little to no progress made in recent meeting" "Both sides can't find agreement" "More game cancellations looming"

It's such bullshit; **** both sides, but **** the owners mostly.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Bets on them making little to no progress?

This

[Sakkreth]

Please get full season. Yeah you might say You are Euro and stuff, but thing is that I enjoy NBA as much as Euroleague and Lawson so far sux hard and I want him out, so... :D

[King$Ofα∂є]

This
Jesus Christ himself could be offering deals and the owners still wouldn't accept it. I'm sorry, but the harsh reality is that we will most likely miss this season. This false optimism is probably because the NFL resolved their "lockout" easily, but their situation was nowhere near as bad as the NBA's.

[Nets fan 93]

Bets on them making little to no progress?
:roll:
:violin:

[LedBalls]

Better than nothing.
Unless they go backwards.

[DaPerceive]

I hate to be pessimistic but this is pretty much a Hail Mary attempt. How often do Hail Marys work in football?

[Rekindled]

it is said that they are just discussing other issues, like the cap and contract length and stuff

[bagelred]

As many reporters tell us, it makes much more sense for one side....ANY side....to just give in and start the season. Otherwise, BOTH sides lose money they'll never get back.

Common sense says SOMEONE FOLD. But ego is getting in the way.

[DuMa]

any one know how many owners has been changed since the last lockout in 1999?

[iamgine]

My crystal ball shows all issues are sorted tonight and we'll have the full season as planned. :rockon:

[AI3Anthony]

Literally praying. I need basketball. :(

[All Net]

Let's hope...

[allabouthawks]

Literally praying. I need basketball. :(

indeed :(

[AMISTILLILL]

It's going to be a real boring year if there's no season. Coming home after a long day during the week to League Pass rules.

Get it sorted out, NBA.

[MeLO MvP 15]

The way I see it is that I was right, the owners were just doing that 50-50 ultimatum just to try and scare the union one last time. The NBPA was smart enough to realize this and the owners budged on that. This pretty much guarantees to me that we'll see either a 49-51 (players w 51), 48.5-51.5 or a 48-52 BRI agreement today and we'll be getting the season. Don't get me wrong, the players definitely lost this negotiation (they couldn't have won), they're losing like 5-6 percentage points of BRI which is like $1 billion over 6-7 years and will probably see shorter contracts... but it could've been a lot worse.

It's getting done tonight and/or tmrw. The sides have both moved too much in the last 2 weeks to not get this done. With the way they're currently separated, they're only like $80-120 mil apart, meaning losing 2 weeks would end up costing more.

*knock on wood*

[Doranku]

Literally praying. I need basketball. :(

Seriously.. :(

[AMISTILLILL]

It doesn't sound like they're negotiating the stuff we think they're going to negotiate. According to reports, they're discussing length of contracts and things of that nature. While the legitimacy of those reports is in question, you have to figure they're going to gravitate towards settling this tonight. Now that both parties are finished trying to push one anothers hand, it's zero hour and all posturing and bullshit needs to get cut out.

I'd like to think that both parties realized they stand to lose much more by losing games than they do by perhaps swallowing their pride and sacrificing a bit on both sides.

[nathanjizzle]

obviously theres progress if one side decided to have an impromptu meeting(could be the players agreeing to the deal or very very close to it). This could be it.

[SpecialQue]

If we get a season, you will be surprised at how much man-jam one guy can produce.

[Sarcastic]

any one know how many owners has been changed since the last lockout in 1999?

I think 13.

[Clutch]

Literally praying. I need basketball. :(
Me too but I'm not optimistic.


Bets on them making little to no progress?
My opinion too.

[cteach111]

well, if it doesn't get done today, then at least you know its the NBPA's fault.

[Clutch]

well, if it doesn't get done today, then at least you know its the NBPA's fault.
Both sides are equally responsible for this shit.

After all,it's the owners who locked players up,not the other way around.

[MeLO MvP 15]

well, if it doesn't get done today, then at least you know its the NBPA's fault.
Not really. Just because the owners improved their offer doesn't mean they're still giving a fair offer. They claim to have to have lost $300 million a year, well in a 49-51 in favor of the players, they'd still be get over $375 million more than the past agreement (doesn't even include a revenue sharing system). So basically, it's not like the owners have suddenly started making good offers, it's just much better than before (which shows how bad and crazy their first offers were). They're still asking for a 7 percent cut on billions of dollars which is a lot. That being said, if this doesn't get done tonight or tmrw, it his 100% because of egos (from both sides).

[Yung D-Will]

KBergCBS Ken Berger

All or most key parties have arrived at #NBA labor meeting. In addition to usual suspects, I'm told Glen Taylor and Jeanie Buss on hand.



KBergCBS Ken Berger

For players, VP Mo Evans joining @TheNBPA president Derek Fisher, source says. This in addition to lead negotiators for both sides.

[The Macho Man]

Fish will come through in the clutch like always:bowdown:

[bagelred]

Fish will come through in the clutch like always:bowdown:

He sure will, Macho......he suuuuuuuure will.


#CircleJerk

[AMISTILLILL]

I'm not a praying man, but...

[Grinder]

Goodbye season.


A league source briefed on labor meeting within past two hours tells Y!: "No progress yet." Talks pushing past fifth hour here in NY now.


**** :(

[DuMa]

if theres no progress, i hope theres enough hookers and blow for everyone at least.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Please #BasedGod, give us a season

#InTheNameOfSwag

[Bosnian Sajo]

For some reason I feel real good about this :D

[DaPerceive]

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/statuses/123244792342777856


Stern has no comment, except to say they're breaking for the night and meeting again on Monday afternoon.


Stern said NBA and NBPA agreed to have no comment on the five hour-plus meetings in New York on Sunday night.


Another meeting tomorrow I believe. Hmm..... :confusedshrug:

[Rekindled]

no deal as exected SMH, dudes just got together and had some steaks

[therammingman]

i posted here that I met D-Fish at a barnes and noble a month ago and talked to him for a good 15 minutes....mostly about all this crap....

You should listen to me. I wrote on here that fisher never said anything shocking to me, but it was clear from his body language, his tone, and the look on his face that they were FAR away from a deal and that i (we fans) shouldn't hold our breaths waiting for one.

Just based from my interaction with him, I still say no season.

[AMISTILLILL]

i posted here that I met D-Fish at a barnes and noble a month ago and talked to him for a good 15 minutes....mostly about all this crap....

You should listen to me. I wrote on here that fisher never said anything shocking to me, but it was clear from his body language, his tone, and the look on his face that they were FAR away from a deal and that i (we fans) shouldn't hold our breaths waiting for one.

Just based from my interaction with him, I still say no season.

Yes, why wouldn't we listen to an anonymous source on a web forum who could or could not be making things up.

[HEAT111]

Let's be optimistic here. Who cares if the first two weeks are canceled? If very fortunate they do surprisingly get a deal done, they could just end the season two weeks later than the original date.

[DuMa]

Let's be optimistic here. Who cares if the first two weeks are canceled? If very fortunate they do surprisingly get a deal done, they could just end the season two weeks later than the original date.

um im not sure thats possible. Most NBA arena dates are set in stone for this year and cannot be rescheduled. not to mention network tv deals.

[cteach111]

i posted here that I met D-Fish at a barnes and noble a month ago and talked to him for a good 15 minutes....mostly about all this crap....

You should listen to me. I wrote on here that fisher never said anything shocking to me, but it was clear from his body language, his tone, and the look on his face that they were FAR away from a deal and that i (we fans) shouldn't hold our breaths waiting for one.

Just based from my interaction with him, I still say no season.

you got all that from his body language... :facepalm

[HEAT111]

um im not sure thats possible. Most NBA arena dates are set in stone for this year and cannot be rescheduled. not to mention network tv deals.


I hope so :(

[bdreason]

No deal. More meetings scheduled for tomorrow.

[All Net]

The fact nobody is saying much and they are meeting again tomorrow is a good sign i would imagine...

[OmniStrife]

The fact nobody is saying much and they are meeting again tomorrow is a good sign i would imagine...
For ****'s sake!

Just tell us if it'll be cancelled all together or not.

It's killing me, I must have my ILP goodness back!




Yes, I am mad. :mad:

[RazorBaLade]

do they just do cocaine off strippers backs in these meetings? what the **** are they doing there for 5 hours with no progress made?

you take the paycut
no you take the paycut
no id rather you take the paycut
no no you please
no you
...

[AirTupac]

do they just do cocaine off strippers backs in these meetings? what the **** are they doing there for 5 hours with no progress made?

you take the paycut
no you take the paycut
no id rather you take the paycut
no no you please
no you
...
Let's do another line off this black one


Fixed

[therammingman]

you got all that from his body language... :facepalm

body language, tone, his answers, the look on his face....it adds up

[clipps]

body language, tone, his answers, the look on his face....it adds up

How wide is your butt hole?

[pauk]

body language, tone, his answers, the look on his face....it adds up

or he was just annoyed talking to you :lol

[Joey Zaza]

what the **** are they doing there for 5 hours with no progress made?

...

Seriously...in the last 2+weeks, they've met for easily 40 hrs. ..and all we know if 46-53, 47-53, 50-53. and as Broussard likes to say "things of that nature" Things of that nature? WTF is things of that nature? Can we narrow it down just a little and what were the sides saying about "things of that nature?"

Bucher has a good tweet on this: It takes 4 seconds to say, "53" and then say, "No, 50." I'm taking no progress in 5 hours to mean, basically, they said that 4500 times.

Can we do BRI guarantee minimum 50-maximum 53. Meaning that if theowners give out contracts below 50% (which they did this year with the 57), the players get up to the 50. If they give out more than the 53 (protecting stupid owners from themselves) the players give it back.

[Clippersfan86]

I find it really hard to believe a veteran NBA player like Fisher would give a random stranger 15 minutes of his time at a Barnes & Noble. Maybe a rookie who hasn't learned the way fans are yet.... but not a player who's played as long as Fish. Not to mention he's WAY too busy with this lockout to think to do this.

[AMISTILLILL]

I find it really hard to believe a veteran NBA player like Fisher would give a random stranger 15 minutes of his time at a Barnes & Noble. Maybe a rookie who hasn't learned the way fans are yet.... but not a player who's played as long as Fish. Not to mention he's WAY too busy with this lockout to think to do this.

This. I have no idea why people make this sort of shit up on the internet.

[RazorBaLade]

Seriously...in the last 2+weeks, they've met for easily 40 hrs. ..and all we know if 46-53, 47-53, 50-53. and as Broussard likes to say "things of that nature" Things of that nature? WTF is things of that nature? Can we narrow it down just a little and what were the sides saying about "things of that nature?"

Bucher has a good tweet on this: It takes 4 seconds to say, "53" and then say, "No, 50." I'm taking no progress in 5 hours to mean, basically, they said that 4500 times.

Can we do BRI guarantee minimum 50-maximum 53. Meaning that if theowners give out contracts below 50% (which they did this year with the 57), the players get up to the 50. If they give out more than the 53 (protecting stupid owners from themselves) the players give it back.

It's honestly unfathomable. I don't even have a theory of what they do for so long. I doubt derek fisher is sitting there talking mathematics with stern about why his deal is fine, and I doubt they do dinner and a movie. I really really want to know what they do for so long.

[All Net]

According to DA th sides are close on a MLE deal

[AMISTILLILL]

It would be cool if they aired this stuff on NBATV. Sort of like a C-SPAN kind of thing but with basketball. I totally get why they wouldn't even consider doing that but, still, it would be nice to get some insight into which parties are either dragging out negotiations or helping things along. Instead, it's just a bunch of cross-talk between two groups who clearly have disdain for one another and their brand of negotiation tactics.

[King$Ofα∂є]

According to DA th sides are close on a MLE deal
A few hours remaining and this is all they agreed with. Progress is progress, I guess...

[bagelred]

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[pegasus]

http://i56.tinypic.com/2s64wae.jpg

I had to look up that shit. I guess I should study some yiddish.