rank these players athleticism

[Ikill]

Derrick Rose Lebon James Vince Carter Michael Jordan and Dominique Wilkins

[Heavincent]

1.) Vince Carter
















2.) Everyone else

[Ikill]

give your reasons too

[IGOTGAME]

Michael Jordan

Lebron James




Vince Carter
Dominique Wilkins/D-Rose

[QuebecBaller]

Vince
Human Highlight Film
MJ
Rose
Lebron

[Dave3]

In their prime Derrick Rose and LeBron would be the top for me. Derrick Rose for his size is very strong, and I've never seen someone with his foot quickness and agility, ever. Carter could jump high and had good quickness, but his speed wasn't amazing and his strength was just decent.

[Indian guy]

LeBron James
Michael Jordan
Derrick Rose
Vince Carter
Dominique Wilkins

[DevilsAssassin]

In their prime Derrick Rose and LeBron would be the top for me. Derrick Rose for his size is very strong, and I've never seen someone with his foot quickness and agility, ever. Carter could jump high and had good quickness, but his speed wasn't amazing and his strength was just decent.

this

Derrick Rose
Michael Jordan
Lebron James
Dominique Wilkins/Vince Carter

[IGOTGAME]

LeBron James
Michael Jordan
Derrick Rose
Vince Carter
Dominique Wilkins

but "26 year old Lebron can't get past anyone" - Indian guy

[IGOTGAME]

In their prime Derrick Rose and LeBron would be the top for me. Derrick Rose for his size is very strong, and I've never seen someone with his foot quickness and agility, ever. Carter could jump high and had good quickness, but his speed wasn't amazing and his strength was just decent.

You can look in the NBA right now and Russel Westbrook is right up there with him in athletism. Lets not get carried away. Too compare him athletically to Jordan is just not fair to the kid.

[Dave3]

You can look in the NBA right now and Russel Westbrook is right up there with him in athletism. Lets not get carried away. Too compare him athletically to Jordan is just not fair to the kid.
Westrbook is definitely not the same as Derrick Rose. I'd venture to say it's a pretty decently sized margin. While Westrbook can almost jump as high and is probably as strong, he's not as fast, and he's definitely not as quick. Watch Derrick Rose in the open court. His feet are like a blur, and when he changes direction it's as if he's a pinball.

I'd also give Rose the advantages over Jordan in quickness agility and speed. He's close in strength and I'd say he probably loses in vertical.

I'm just rating pure athleticism here, not basketball skill. Jordan may be the GOAT, but he's definitely not the GOAT athlete. I'd put LeBron above Jordan too there.

[KingRaptor]

Derrick Rose
Michael Jordan
Lebron James
Vince Carter
Dominique Wilkins

[Indian guy]

but "26 year old Lebron can't get past anyone" - Indian guy

I'm ranking them at their peaks.

[Indian guy]

Too compare him athletically to Jordan is just not fair to the kid.

If we were comparing careers, sure, but this is just athleticism, and Rose is absolutely up there with MJ.

[IGOTGAME]

If we were comparing careers, sure, but this is just athleticism, and Rose is absolutely up there with MJ.

he is up there, but I don't see an argument for him being more athletic than Lebron or MJ. If he were in there class then he would have the lateral movement to be a shutdown defender. He lacks that lateral movement.

Oh, do you really think Rose is that much more athletic then Russel Westbrook?

[oolalaa]

:roll: at all the idiots who don't think lebron is the most athletic

1. James


2. Jordan
3. Wilkins
4. Rose
5. Carter

[KingRaptor]

Rose has a clear advantge over Westbrook IMO but both are freaks.

TMAC>all:D

[Indian guy]

If he were in there class then he would have the lateral movement to be a shutdown defender.

Defense has very little to do with athleticism. It's about hard work, anticipation and good instincts. LeBron couldn't stay with anyone when he first came into the league either. He got better through hard work, not because he somehow became a better athlete.


Oh, do you really think Rose is that much more athletic then Russel Westbrook?

Maybe not much more, but he IS noticeably better. Quicker in the half-court, better leaper, better coordination and body control.

[IGOTGAME]

Defense has very little to do with athleticism. It's about hard work, anticipation and good instincts. LeBron couldn't stay with anyone when he first came into the league either. He got better through hard work, not because he somehow became a better athlete.



Maybe not much more, but he IS noticeably better. Quicker in the half-court, better leaper, better coordination and body control.

i disagree, I think Westbrook is a better leaper. Just as quick and better laterally and has bigger hands. Rose is more athletic but it isnt by much.

Is Rose really a better leaper? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaob4MsH-Zw

Jordan is bigger, stronger, longer, bigger hands, higher vert, better coordination, better body control and a more explosive leaper. Rose is simply slightly quicker than Jordan.








Let me re-word that. Watching D-Rose play defense has made me realize that for someone so quick his lateral movement on slides is very poor, EVEN when he tries.

Lebron couldn't stay with people in the league in the beginning bc he was green and gambled. He was always quick enough laterally since his 3rd year and it showed at times when he really locked in and guarded stars. Rose just seems slow in comparison even when he locks down.

[RRR3]

T-Mac should replace someone on this list.

[DevilsAssassin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3cUl4iO5d0

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[Indian guy]

Jordan is bigger, stronger

Relative to their positions, I'd say they are equally strong. Rose is very well built.


longer, bigger hands

I don't know what this has to do with athleticism.


higher vert, better coordination, better body control and a more explosive leaper.

Coordination and body control is very debatable. Rose is elite in both categories too.


Rose is simply slightly quicker than Jordan.

While being inferior only as a leaper. The rest are all a toss-up, IMO.


Watching D-Rose play defense has made me realize that for someone so quick his lateral movement on slides is very poor, EVEN when he tries.

Current Rose? Because this sounds more like the criticism directed at him his first couple of seasons in the league, but he's a lot better today. He lacks the consistent focus required to be called a good defender, but when he is motivated, he can be very effective. He put the clamps on both D-Will and CP3 last season. Brutally outplayed them.

[IGOTGAME]

Relative to their positions, I'd say they are equally strong. Rose is very well built.


why would we measure athleticism relative to their position? makes no sense.



I don't know what this has to do with athleticism.

height and length have a lot to do with athleticism. Why wouldn't it?


Coordination and body control is very debatable. Rose is elite in both categories too.

i disagree.


While being inferior only as a leaper. The rest are all a toss-up, IMO.

I think quickness is his only advantage. Overall speed, I don't even know if that goes to Rose. Have then Race end to end and I don't know what happens.

Jordan is bigger, longer, stronger, more explosive and a better leaper while being 4 inches taller than Rose. I don't see how it is debatable. Jordan was just on another level than Rose as a physical specimen.

You may not think that height and length factor in when comparing athletes but they definitely do. When you factor that in Rose has no argument over Michael Jordan.

[pauk]

POINT SYSTEM:
5 points for being #1
4 points for being #2
3 points for being #3
2 points for being #4
1 points for being #5

SPEED:

1. Lebron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Derrick Rose
4. Vince Carter
5. Dominique Wilkins

QUICKNESS:

1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Jordan
3. Lebron James
4. Vince Carter
5. Dominique Wilkins

ONE FOOT TAKEOFF

1. Lebron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Vince Carter
4. Derrick Rose
5. Dominique Wilkins

TWO FOOT TAKEOFF

1. Dominique Wilkins
2. Michael Jordan
3. Vince Carter
4. Lebron James
5. Derrick Rose

POWER/STRENGTH

1. Lebron James
2. Dominique Wilkins
3. Vince Carter
4. Michael Jordan
5. Derrick Rose

AGILITY

1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Jordan
3. Lebron James
4. Vince Carter
5. Dominique Wilkins

CARDIO/DURABILITY/LONGEVITY

1. Michael Jordan
2. Lebron James
3. Derrick Rose
4. Dominique Wilkins
5. Vince Carter

SIZE

1. Lebron James
2. Dominique Wilkins
3. Vince Carter
4. Michael Jordan
5. Derrick Rose



CONCLUSION:

1. Lebron James 32 points
2. Michael Jordan 29 points
3. Derrick Rose 21 points
4. Vince Carter 19 points
4. Dominique Wilkins 19 points



WINNER = LEBRON JAMES

[RRR3]

Again, T-Mac should be in this. :mad:

[KingRaptor]

Again, T-Mac should be in this. :mad:
i agree

[rodman91]

Combination of speed,quickness,vertical & strenght.

1.Jordan
2.Lebron
3.Rose
4.Wilkins
5.Carter

[iDunk]

Vince Carter
Michael Jordan
LeBron James
Derrick Rose
Dominique Wilkins

[inclinerator]

*240-250 lbs lebron 1.A
1.B Mj

derrick rose
vince carter
dominque

[Ikill]

Again, T-Mac should be in this. :mad:
Tmac not on there level

[Ikill]

haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJhMNPuiwyI
he had the best hair too and still has hair unlike Carter Jordan and Lebron goin bald

[DevilsAssassin]

haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJhMNPuiwyI
he had the best hair too and still has hair unlike Carter Jordan and Lebron goin bald
:oldlol: :oldlol:

[magnax1]

Again, T-Mac should be in this. :mad:
I don't think TMac was the same level of athlete as these guys. He had the perfect body type for basketball, as in he was extremely lanky with huge hands. He also had perfect body control, but I don't think he had the vert, speed or quickness of those other guys.
Julius erving deserves to be with these guys though.
Anyway I'd rank them
1-Lebron
Not as quick as Jordan or Rose, but basically just as fast, with a huge gap in strength, and fairly large gap in overall size.
2-Jordan
Doesn't really have any flaw. Insanely quick, fast and can jump as high as pretty much any superstar I've ever seen. He's probably not as strong as any of these guys (at least inch for inch) but it never seemed to be a problem anyway, and I think he was a lot stronger then he looked.
The other guys are a jumble, and I'm too lazy to rank them right now anyway.

[Papaya Petee]

1.) LeBron
2.) MJ\Vince
3.) Vince\MJ
4.) Domonique
5.) D-Rose

[AngelEyes]

I don't think TMac was the same level of athlete as these guys. He had the perfect body type for basketball, as in he was extremely lanky with huge hands. He also had perfect body control, but I don't think he had the vert, speed or quickness of those other guys.
Julius erving deserves to be with these guys though.
Anyway I'd rank them
1-Lebron
Not as quick as Jordan or Rose, but basically just as fast, with a huge gap in strength, and fairly large gap in overall size.
2-Jordan
Doesn't really have any flaw. Insanely quick, fast and can jump as high as pretty much any superstar I've ever seen. He's probably not as strong as any of these guys (at least inch for inch) but it never seemed to be a problem anyway, and I think he was a lot stronger then he looked.
The other guys are a jumble, and I'm too lazy to rank them right now anyway.

Really because many of Jordan's peers, including Magic Johnson and Robert Horry, talk about his great strength. I have no doubt in my mind he was stronger than Carter and Rose. His dunks may not have been as powerful as Wilkins, but he seemed as strong as him, especially from 1992 on. James and Jordan are easily at the top of this list.

[ImmortalD24]

1. Michael Jordan
2. LeBron James
3. Vince Carter
4. Derrick Rose
5. Dominique Wilkins

[D.J.]

Vince Carter- he could jump off one foot, two feet, run the court very well, and he was simply explosive. IMO, he has a slight advantage in leaping ability over MJ and is about equal in everything else. That's why I rank him above MJ.

Michael Jordan- see above. Just a hair below Vince.

LeBron James- LeBron can jump off one foot very well and is extremely fast. But he's not that explosive and he's not much of a two foot jumper.

Derrick Rose- Rose has a very quick step, though it's not on the level of MJ or Vince. He's also not as explosive.

Dominique Wilkins- not as fast as the others and is strictly a two foot jumper.

[che guevara]

Derrick Rose Lebon James Vince Carter Michael Jordan and Dominique Wilkins
Lebron
Jordan
Vince
Rose
Nique


Vince Carter- he could jump off one foot, two feet, run the court very well, and he was simply explosive. IMO, he has a slight advantage in leaping ability over MJ and is about equal in everything else. That's why I rank him above MJ.

Michael Jordan- see above. Just a hair below Vince.

LeBron James- LeBron can jump off one foot very well and is extremely fast. But he's not that explosive and he's not much of a two foot jumper.

Derrick Rose- Rose has a very quick step, though it's not on the level of MJ or Vince. He's also not as explosive.

Dominique Wilkins- not as fast as the others and is strictly a two foot jumper.
You need to watch some highlights from Lebron in Cleveland.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqD-JoDgKao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM2NJLQ2224

[D.J.]

You need to watch some highlights from Lebron in Cleveland.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqD-JoDgKao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM2NJLQ2224


That doesn't make him explosive, especially when at least 2 of the guys on the list have him beat in that category.

[andgar923]

POund for pound:

MJ
Bron
Rose
VC
Nique

People forget that MJ was as fast/quick/explosive as a 6'2 guard.
As strong as a big man.
As agile as a 6'0 player.
Super quick reflexes, great coordination, stamina had no limits and we all know about his vert.

Bron for his size is an exceptional athlete, that has very few peers.... but pound for pound MJ edges him because he's more agile, far better coordination (Bron is at times 'robotic').

Rose is a stronger version of Steve Francis.

VC is mostly a great leaper, I doubt he's a better all around athlete than Spreewell or his cousin (Tmac). While Tmac wasn't as big of a leaper as VC (although VC didn't have such a huge leaping advantage as some may think), Tmac was a better all around athlete.

Nique was a power leaper, but I never really thought he was an athlete on MJ's, Rose's level.

[Xover]

somebody explain to me how athletic JR smith' athleticism is coz I don't get it

[andgar923]

I don't think TMac was the same level of athlete as these guys. He had the perfect body type for basketball, as in he was extremely lanky with huge hands. He also had perfect body control, but I don't think he had the vert, speed or quickness of those other guys.
Julius erving deserves to be with these guys though.
Anyway I'd rank them
1-Lebron
Not as quick as Jordan or Rose, but basically just as fast, with a huge gap in strength, and fairly large gap in overall size.
2-Jordan
Doesn't really have any flaw. Insanely quick, fast and can jump as high as pretty much any superstar I've ever seen. He's probably not as strong as any of these guys (at least inch for inch) but it never seemed to be a problem anyway, and I think he was a lot stronger then he looked.
The other guys are a jumble, and I'm too lazy to rank them right now anyway.

MJ was actually much stronger than he looked. Various players have mentioned how strong he was. Hell..... even Horry mentioned that MJ was pound for pound the strongest he's faced, and that's including Bron. I know Charles said it, Magic and others.

[nayte]

POINT SYSTEM:
5 points for being #1
4 points for being #2
3 points for being #3
2 points for being #4
1 points for being #5

SPEED:

1. Lebron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Derrick Rose
4. Vince Carter
5. Dominique Wilkins

QUICKNESS:

1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Jordan
3. Lebron James
4. Vince Carter
5. Dominique Wilkins

ONE FOOT TAKEOFF

1. Lebron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Vince Carter
4. Derrick Rose
5. Dominique Wilkins

TWO FOOT TAKEOFF

1. Dominique Wilkins
2. Michael Jordan
3. Vince Carter
4. Lebron James
5. Derrick Rose

POWER/STRENGTH

1. Lebron James
2. Dominique Wilkins
3. Vince Carter
4. Michael Jordan
5. Derrick Rose

AGILITY

1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Jordan
3. Lebron James
4. Vince Carter
5. Dominique Wilkins

CARDIO/DURABILITY/LONGEVITY

1. Michael Jordan
2. Lebron James
3. Derrick Rose
4. Dominique Wilkins
5. Vince Carter

SIZE

1. Lebron James
2. Dominique Wilkins
3. Vince Carter
4. Michael Jordan
5. Derrick Rose



CONCLUSION:

1. Lebron James 32 points
2. Michael Jordan 29 points
3. Derrick Rose 21 points
4. Vince Carter 19 points
4. Dominique Wilkins 19 points



WINNER = LEBRON JAMES


Ha ..what a suprise....
Does anyone have some official times and measurements etc.

[senelcoolidge]

1. Micheal Jordan
2. Dominique Wilkins
3. Derrick Rose
4. Lebron James
5. Vince Carter

[Dragonyeuw]

Vince Carter- he could jump off one foot, two feet, run the court very well, and he was simply explosive. IMO, he has a slight advantage in leaping ability over MJ and is about equal in everything else. That's why I rank him above MJ.



Jordan was about as equally explosive in terms of jumping off one or two feet, had better in-air body control, laterally quicker, could change directions on a dime better, quicker reflexes. Overall, Jordan for me was a better total athlete.

[Go Getter]

POINT SYSTEM:
5 points for being #1
4 points for being #2
3 points for being #3
2 points for being #4
1 points for being #5

SPEED:

1. Lebron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Derrick Rose
4. Vince Carter
5. Dominique Wilkins

QUICKNESS:

1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Jordan
3. Lebron James
4. Vince Carter
5. Dominique Wilkins

ONE FOOT TAKEOFF

1. Lebron James
2. Michael Jordan
3. Vince Carter
4. Derrick Rose
5. Dominique Wilkins

TWO FOOT TAKEOFF

1. Dominique Wilkins
2. Michael Jordan
3. Vince Carter
4. Lebron James
5. Derrick Rose

POWER/STRENGTH

1. Lebron James
2. Dominique Wilkins
3. Vince Carter
4. Michael Jordan
5. Derrick Rose

AGILITY

1. Derrick Rose
2. Michael Jordan
3. Lebron James
4. Vince Carter
5. Dominique Wilkins

CARDIO/DURABILITY/LONGEVITY

1. Michael Jordan
2. Lebron James
3. Derrick Rose
4. Dominique Wilkins
5. Vince Carter

SIZE

1. Lebron James
2. Dominique Wilkins
3. Vince Carter
4. Michael Jordan
5. Derrick Rose



CONCLUSION:

1. Lebron James 32 points
2. Michael Jordan 29 points
3. Derrick Rose 21 points
4. Vince Carter 19 points
4. Dominique Wilkins 19 points



WINNER = LEBRON JAMES

Are you seriously saying Lebron and Jordan are faster than Rose?

[bond10]

Are you seriously saying Lebron and Jordan are faster than Rose?

Rose is one of the fastest, but there's a difference between "looking" fast and actual speed. Rose looks faster than Lebron because he's smaller, otherwise even Rose himself said in an interview that it was hard playing offense with a 270 lbs Lebron on him who was just as quick as Rose (2011 playoffs).

[pauk]

Are you seriously saying Lebron and Jordan are faster than Rose?

depends on what Faster equals in your brain.... are you talking about SPEED or QUICKNESS... those two are actually completely different things...


Usain Bolt is the speediest man on earth (from one end to another)... but not the quickest (acceleration)

Lebron James has best speed in the NBA.... but not the best quickness (acceleration, darting here and there like CP3, Rose, Iverson and so on)

If you go by speed... as in who can go from one end to the other the fastest... then its easily Lebron..... and we dont even have to give an opinion about this or show a video of him going fast as hell.... even tho there is enough of such evidence aswell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaLIhzSYDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhlO7Z-ozug

because unlike Rose or anybody on this list, you can give actual PROOF that he is the fastest, in Lebrons book its clearly stated that he ran a 40 yard dash time which is almost as fast as Usain Bolt... 4.4 second (4.36) seconds:

http://www.tower.com/king-james-believe-hype-lebron-story-ryan-jones-paperback/wapi/101458176

"LeBron has a measured vertical leap of 44 inches and reportedly ran a 4.37 40-yard dash in the draft combine."

Usain Bolt 40 yard dash:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=582

Compare 4.36 at 6'8"-250 lbs to the Fastest 40 yard dash times in human history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Untitled-2.jpg

Fastest time ever is 4.24 to 4.30........ think about that one for a second... and all those athletes in the list were between 5'5" and 6'2".....





Lebron is faster than Derrick Rose and faster than anybody in the NBA........ although i have to admit Derrick Rose is easily #2-#3 or so fastest in the NBA from coast to coast himself, he got great speed himself....

Lebron is faster.... more SPEED.... not quicker....

[JordanTime]

Derrick Rose Lebon James Vince Carter Michael Jordan and Dominique Wilkins

My list would look like this -
Michael Jordan/Lebron James/Derrick Rose
Vince Carter/Dominique Wilkins

[Doctor Rivers]

depends on what Faster equals in your brain.... are you talking about SPEED or QUICKNESS... those two are actually completely different things...


Usain Bolt is the speediest man on earth (from one end to another)... but not the quickest (acceleration)

Lebron James has best speed in the NBA.... but not the best quickness (acceleration, darting here and there like CP3, Rose, Iverson and so on)

If you go by speed... as in who can go from one end to the other the fastest... then its easily Lebron..... and we dont even have to give an opinion about this or show a video of him going fast as hell.... even tho there is enough of such evidence aswell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaLIhzSYDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhlO7Z-ozug

because unlike Rose or anybody on this list, you can give actual PROOF that he is the fastest, in Lebrons book its clearly stated that he ran a 40 yard dash time which is almost as fast as Usain Bolt... 4.4 second (4.36) seconds:

http://www.tower.com/king-james-believe-hype-lebron-story-ryan-jones-paperback/wapi/101458176

"LeBron has a measured vertical leap of 44 inches and reportedly ran a 4.37 40-yard dash in the draft combine."

Usain Bolt 40 yard dash:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=582

Compare 4.36 at 6'8"-250 lbs to the Fastest 40 yard dash times in human history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash

Fastest time ever is 4.24 to 4.30........ think about that one for a second... and all those athletes in the list were between 5'9" and 6'2".....





Lebron is faster than than Derrick Rose........ although i have to admit Derrick Rose is easily #2-#3 or so fastest in the NBA from coast to coast....
Faster.... more SPEED.... not quicker....


:roll::roll::roll::roll:

hahah now i've read everything... you think lebron's speed is comparable to usain bolt... GTFO

[Go Getter]

Rose is one of the fastest, but there's a difference between "looking" fast and actual speed. Rose looks faster than Lebron because he's smaller, otherwise even Rose himself said in an interview that it was hard playing offense with a 270 lbs Lebron on him who was just as quick as Rose (2011 playoffs).


I don't take into account what a player looks like I go by a few factors.

People forget Rose has track speed and posted a very fast 40 time in the combine although having knee problems.

If you guys think Rose or Lebron is as fast as Bolt idk what to say.

Plenty of people can run a 4.4....now when you dip below that is when you reach all world levels.

I actually think Bron looks like he's moving faster than he really is because you never see a guy that big run that fast.

[pauk]

The secret to Usain Bolts or Lebrons speed is the LENGTH / LONG STRIDES......... to have that freakish athleticism at such a size...

For example.... If Derrick Rose can move his legs just as fast as Usain Bolt or Lebron..... then Usuain Bolt or Lebron will be faster anyways....... why? Because Usuain Bolt or Lebron are 6'6"+........ they have LONGER STRIDES.......... which means they pick up longer steps which means they go faster.......... While Derrick Rose takes two steps to get to a destination... Usain Bolt or Lebron need only 1 step to get there....

understand?

Here is an example of analogy:

A Rabbit or Squirrel vs a Cheetah........ the rabbit is much quicker, but the Cheetah is much faster...

A rabbit moves much quicker, it accelerates and changes direction much quicker and so on, its limbs make it look like it is running 1000 mph............ but has it really more speed? does it get to a certain destination faster?

or... you can say it like this:

Me and T-Rex........ i can move much quicker. But the T-Rex has to only take 1 step to get where i get taking 10 steps.... :D

[pauk]

:roll::roll::roll::roll:

hahah now i've read everything... you think lebron's speed is comparable to usain bolt... GTFO

if you did read everything then where did you get that lebrons speed is comparable to usain bolt? Usain Bolt runs a 4.30 40 yard dash........... how is that comparable to lebron........... sure... but Usuain Bolt is faster.......... and especially to 100 meters... he is the fastest man on earth...

i took Usain Bolt as an example to present to you what athleticism at LONG STRIDES mean (he is 6'6") compared to SHORT STRIDES ........

please... just stop wasting my time with your stupidity... say something constructive or STFU

[Doctor Rivers]

The secret to Usain Bolts or Lebrons speed is the LENGTH / LONG STRIDES......... to have that freakish athleticism at such a size...

For example.... If Derrick Rose can move his legs just as fast as Usain Bolt or Lebron..... then Usuain Bolt or Lebron will be faster anyways....... why? Because Usuain Bolt or Lebron are 6'6"+........ they have LONGER STRIDES.......... which means they pick up longer steps which means they go faster.......... While Derrick Rose takes two steps to get to a destination... Usain Bolt or Lebron need only 1 step to get there....

understand?

Here is an example of analogy:

A Rabbit or Squirrel vs a Cheetah........ the rabbit is much quicker, but the Cheetah is much faster...

A rabbit moves much quicker, it accelerates and changes direction much quicker and so on, its limbs make it look like it is running 1000 mph............ but has it really more speed? does it get to a certain destination faster?

or... you can say it like this:

Me and T-Rex........ i can move much quicker. But the T-Rex has to only take 1 step to get where i get taking 10 steps.... :D

No, you don't understand. You are stating that LeBron's speed is comparable to Usain Bolt's because of a quote from a random book. First of all Bolt is not "6'6"+" so according to your logic, since LeBron is taller he could be faster due to his stride length. Second, 40 yd dash times are inherently inaccurate because the are almost always hand timed and not FAT.

Anyways, the difference in height isn't that much of a factor when everyone is over six feet tall as opposed to Bolt racing against sprinters who are 5'8" or shorter. I assure you Rose is faster end to end on a basketball court than LeBron is.

Rabbit vs a cheetah....LMFAO. GET THE F OUTTA HERE

:facepalm

[Doctor Rivers]

if you did read everything then where did you get that lebrons speed is comparable to usain bolt? Usain Bolt runs a 4.30 40 yard dash........... how is that comparable to lebron........... sure... but Usuain Bolt is faster.......... and especially to 100 meters... he is the fastest man on earth...

i took Usain Bolt as an example to present to you what athleticism at LONG STRIDES mean (he is 6'6") compared to SHORT STRIDES ........

please... just stop wasting my time with your stupidity... say something constructive or STFU

read my post above and learn something about speed son

lebron is 250+ lbs, no way he can run that fast

[VeeCee15]

1. Vince Carter - best hops by far, most explosive, big hands. Lightning first step in prime. HE didn't even need handles.








2. Michael Jordan
3. Lebron
4. Rose

[pauk]

read my post above and learn something about speed son

lebron is 250+ lbs, no way he can run that fast

man im not gona waste my time with you anymore on this subject....


i can just give you PROOF:

1. Lebron runs 4.3-4.4 sec 40 yard dash....
2. Lebron is the only player in the NBA that has some kindof proof to be the fastest player in the NBA..... not quickest... but fastest... get over it please
3. Lebron quite possibly has a saying in being the fastest 260+ pounder in Human history... he is a genetical freak

my talk about LONG STRIDES / SIZE giving advantage is TRUE.......... BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE ATHLETIC ENOUGH....

for proof read here:
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/08/usain-bolt-958s.html

[Doctor Rivers]

man im not gona waste my time with you anymore on this subject....


i can just give you PROOF:

1. Lebron runs 4.3-4.4 sec 40 yard dash....
2. Lebron is the only player in the NBA that has some kindof proof to be the fastest player in the NBA..... not quickest... but fastest... get over it please
3. Lebron quite possibly has a saying in being the fastest 260+ pounder in Human history... he is a genetical freak

my talk about LONG STRIDES / SIZE giving advantage is TRUE.......... BUT ONLY IF YOU ARE ATHLETIC ENOUGH....

for proof read here:
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/08/usain-bolt-958s.html

no, you're just going to create another meaningless thread about lebron...:facepalm

1. Once again, it's a baseless claim from a book. You have no ACTUAL PROOF that he can run the 40 in that time.

2. What you posted makes no sense.


Lebron is the only player in the NBA that has some kindof proof to be the fastest player in the NBA

Brooks? Rose? etc...

3. LOL now you're adding qualifiers to your statements. Sure, he could be the fastest person who weighs over 260lbs. We don't know that for sure though and making it an absolute by saying in "human history" is a little [FONT=Calibri]na

[DC Zephyrs]

1. Jordan
2. Lebron
3. Carter
4. Rose
5. Nique

[Plat]

In their primes? Lebron

[MasterDurant24]

LeBron
Jordan
Rose
Carter
Wilkins

[nathanjizzle]

depends on what Faster equals in your brain.... are you talking about SPEED or QUICKNESS... those two are actually completely different things...


Usain Bolt is the speediest man on earth (from one end to another)... but not the quickest (acceleration)

Lebron James has best speed in the NBA.... but not the best quickness (acceleration, darting here and there like CP3, Rose, Iverson and so on)

If you go by speed... as in who can go from one end to the other the fastest... then its easily Lebron..... and we dont even have to give an opinion about this or show a video of him going fast as hell.... even tho there is enough of such evidence aswell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNaLIhzSYDI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhlO7Z-ozug

because unlike Rose or anybody on this list, you can give actual PROOF that he is the fastest, in Lebrons book its clearly stated that he ran a 40 yard dash time which is almost as fast as Usain Bolt... 4.4 second (4.36) seconds:

http://www.tower.com/king-james-believe-hype-lebron-story-ryan-jones-paperback/wapi/101458176

"LeBron has a measured vertical leap of 44 inches and reportedly ran a 4.37 40-yard dash in the draft combine."

Usain Bolt 40 yard dash:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=582

Compare 4.36 at 6'8"-250 lbs to the Fastest 40 yard dash times in human history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-yard_dash
http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc500/pauk666/Untitled-2.jpg

Fastest time ever is 4.24 to 4.30........ think about that one for a second... and all those athletes in the list were between 5'5" and 6'2".....





Lebron is faster than Derrick Rose and faster than anybody in the NBA........ although i have to admit Derrick Rose is easily #2-#3 or so fastest in the NBA from coast to coast himself, he got great speed himself....

Lebron is faster.... more SPEED.... not quicker....


LOL, derrick rose is faster with the ball then lebron james. Jus because you show videos doesnt mean its "proof" you still havent showed facts. You showed one video of lebron james sprinting without the ball, then the 2nd video you showed lebron dribbling the ball like a overgrown kid with no skills trying to get down the court. Untill you show measured speed with dribbling from end to end of both players, then the argument is still up for discussion.

[eliteballer]

You people are out of your fukking minds if you think Jordan is more coordinated, quicker, or agile than Rose.

[RRR3]

LOL, derrick rose is faster with the ball then lebron james. Jus because you show videos doesnt mean its "proof" you still havent showed facts. You showed one video of lebron james sprinting without the ball, then the 2nd video you showed lebron dribbling the ball like a overgrown kid with no skills trying to get down the court. Untill you show measured speed with dribbling from end to end of both players, then the argument is still up for discussion.
Man, you'd think since Derrick Rose has so much more "skill" than LeBron, he could shoot higher than 6% when LeBron guards him. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Rnbizzle]

You people are out of your fukking minds if you think Jordan is more coordinated, quicker, or agile than Rose.
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