10/17: Euroleague Tip-off - CSKA Moscow vs. Zalgiris Kaunas (NBATV and ESPN3)

[Grinder]

Figured some of you guys might be interested in watching the regular season opener of Euroleague tomorrow between Zalgiris of Lithuania and CSKA Moscow of Russia.

Former/current NBA players and or draft picks in this game.

Zalgiris:
Ty Lawson
Sonny Weems
Milovan Rakovic (Mavericks draft pick 07)
Robertas Javtokas (Spurs draft pick 01)

CSKA:
Andrei Kirilenko
Nenad Krstic
Viktor Khryapa
Sasha Kaun (Cavaliers draft pick 08)
Sammy Mejia (Pistons draft pick in 07)

They've also got: Milos Teodosic (EL MVP in 2010) and Ramunas Siskauskas (EL MVP in 08).


Game will be televised on NBA TV and available on ESPN3.

[bdreason]

Thanks for the heads up.

[chains5000]

This week's best game will be on Friday

[alwaysunny]

thanks. what time?

[Clutch]

thanks. what time?
20:45h CET.

That's 2:45 PM.

[Grinder]

This week's best game will be on Friday

Over/under on how many devastating injuries Rudy will go down with? I'd say over 3. :oldlol:

Some really good match ups in this game. I'd like to see AK47's defense on Weems.

[Borat_Sagdyev]

Sonny13 Sonny Weems
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[alenleomessi]

kirilenko will play sf or pf?

[alwaysunny]

There's no indication of the broadcast on NBA TV. It's scheduled to play Old School Monday all afternoon. What's going on people?

[Borat_Sagdyev]

kirilenko will play sf or pf?
Hard to say. I think something like that
PG Teodosic, Gordon, Shved
SG Mejia, Shved, Gordon, Voronov
SF Siskauskas, Vorontsevic, Kirilenko, Kurbanov
PF Khryapa, Kirilenko, Lavrinovic, Vorontsevic
C Krstic, Kaun, Sokolov, Lavrinovic

Zalgiris:
PG Lawson, Kalnietis, Collins
SG Milaknis, Delininkaitis, Popovic, Collins, Kalnietis, Weems..?
SF Weems, Kuzminskas.
PF Jankūnas, Klimavicius
C Javtokas, Rakovic

[andersond91]

So is it on NBA TV today - Monday 10/17?

[Grinder]

There's no indication of the broadcast on NBA TV. It's scheduled to play Old School Monday all afternoon. What's going on people?

No clue why it's not on their schedule, but you can always watch it on ESPN3 if NBATV doesn't end up showing it:

http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/source/espn3/



Hard to say. I think something like that
PG Teodosic, Gordon, Shved
SG Mejia, Shved, Gordon, Voronov
SF Siskauskas, Vorontsevic, Kirilenko, Kurbanov
PF Khryapa, Kirilenko, Lavrinovic, Vorontsevic
C Krstic, Kaun, Sokolov, Lavrinovic

Zalgiris:
PG Lawson, Kalnietis, Collins
SG Milaknis, Delininkaitis, Popovic, Collins, Kalnietis, Weems..?
SF Weems, Kuzminskas.
PF Jankūnas, Klimavicius
C Javtokas, Rakovic

I haven't seen CSKA with Kirilenko, but from what I've seen of Zalgiris, they play Collins and Lawson together a good bit

[Grinder]

Zalgiris starting Lawson, Delininkaitis, Weems, Jankunas, Javtokas
CSKA starting Teodosic, Siskauskas, Kirilenko, Khryapa, Krstic

AK47 guarding Weems to start off. 4 guys who played in the NBA this past year on court right now.

[DuMa]

not on NBATV but Jordan game 1986 first round against the celtics is

[Quizno]

this really makes me miss the NBA :(

[Clutch]

Does anyone have a high quality link ?

So far all streams are poor.

[chains5000]

Over/under on how many devastating injuries Rudy will go down with? I'd say over 3. :oldlol:

Some really good match ups in this game. I'd like to see AK47's defense on Weems.
I was talking about the Bilbao Basket vs Olympiacos game:bowdown:

As for Rudy, over 3, EASILY.

[chains5000]

The game is on local TV:djparty

[alwaysunny]

Does anyone have a high quality link ?

So far all streams are poor.

Other countries don't have ESPN3?

[KingBeasley08]

time to show these euroleague scrubs for what they are :oldlol:

[chains5000]

Does anyone have a high quality link ?

So far all streams are poor.
http://www.rtve.es/deportes/directo/teledeporte/
Don't know it it's good but it the same source as the one I'm watching on TV.

[DuMa]

Does anyone have a high quality link ?

So far all streams are poor.
http://www.sportlemon.tv/v-2/10/174/v-317564.html

[Clutch]

Thanks guys.

[Grinder]

I was talking about the Bilbao Basket vs Olympiacos game:bowdown:

As for Rudy, over 3, EASILY.

Damn, I won't be able to watch that game...should be a good one


Weems just burned AK47 on that move. :applause:

8 early points, some rebounds, a block, and an assist already for AK47

[DuMa]

lawson needs more playing time

[bdreason]

Not showing on NBA TV.

[alwaysunny]

Does Weems ever pass the ball?

[DuMa]

lawson so damn good

[alwaysunny]

Lawson owning the fast break

[Grinder]

3 really tough finishes from Lawson in the paint.

Lawson and Weems have nearly half of Zalgiris' points.

Keep an eye out for #23 on CSKA (Shved)...reminds me of a Russian Jamal Crawford, could be an NBA player in the next few years

[chains5000]

Does Weems ever pass the ball?
Yeah, doesn't seem to like passing.
Both teams making turnovers like there's no tomorrow.

[DuMa]

theres no reason for weems to pass if he has 1 on 1. he is making the most of his opportunities

[chains5000]

theres no reason for weems to pass if he has 1 on 1. he is making the most of his opportunities
He's making almost every shot, but every time he gets the ball he drives to the hoop.

[Grinder]

Kirilenko with 8 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 blocks already....he's only been with the team for 2 weeks too

Zalgiris' coach rotating too much IMO and they're getting killed every time they play zone.

[alwaysunny]

Yeah, I didn't like how he was hogging the ball in the beginning but if they can't stop you from scoring why pass :pimp:

[SunsCaptain]

Kirilenko with 8 points, 9 rebounds, 3 assists, and 2 blocks already....he's only been with the team for 2 weeks too

Zalgiris' coach rotating too much IMO and they're getting killed every time they play zone.

Yeah thats what I was thinking...Zone isnt working out well haha...

[ZenMaster]

Yeah, I didn't like how he was hogging the ball in the beginning but if they can't stop you from scoring why pass :pimp:

Because you need to get your teammates involved in the game, players work harder defensively if they're involved offensively.

[chains5000]

Yeah, I didn't like how he was hogging the ball in the beginning but if they can't stop you from scoring why pass :pimp:
I don't think he can keep up that play for long, and the team will be cold by then.
Nice game by Teodosic so far.

[madmax]

so Grinder, apparently Shved is good enough for you now, am I rite or am I rite?:roll: What a clown you are dude, unbelievable...

[Grinder]

so Grinder, apparently Shved is good enough for you now, am I rite or am I rite?:roll: What a clown you are dude, unbelievable...

You're a ****ing moron that knows nothing about basketball. :oldlol:

I've always said Shved is great on offense and horrific on defense.

[Jan95]

CSKA killing Zalgiris! :cheers:

[madmax]

You're a ****ing moron that knows nothing about basketball. :oldlol:

I've always said Shved is great on offense and horrific on defense.

:lol
I see that I got you mad clown...so how much did you put on Zalgiris today?:oldlol:

[Clutch]

I don't know why but I always cheer for Lithuanian teams.:lol
Too bad CSKA is going to win.

[Jan95]

I thought Zalgiris would do better because of homecourt advantage, but CSKA is too good as I see...

[Grinder]

I thought Zalgiris would do better because of homecourt advantage, but CSKA is too good as I see...

Yep, CSKA dissecting them in all facets of the game. Fun team to watch.

AK47 stuffing the stat sheet...15 points/13 rebounds/5 assists/3 blocks through 3 quarters.

[Clutch]

Yep, CSKA dissecting them in all facets of the game. Fun team to watch.

AK47 stuffing the stat sheet...15 points/13 rebounds/5 assists/3 blocks through 3 quarters.
What are Weems and Lawson's stats ?

[Grinder]

What are Weems and Lawson's stats ?

Weems: 16 points, 6 rebounds, 2 steals
Lawson: 7 points, 3 rebounds

Apart from Weems, Collins, and Lawson, no one else on the team has more than 4 points

[Rent]

Weems: 16 points, 6 rebounds, 2 steals
Lawson: 7 points, 3 rebounds

Apart from Weems, Collins, and Lawson, no one else on the team has more than 4 points

Those are pretty dominating stats. They're going to take Europe by storm. :roll:

[Grinder]

Technical foul on Lavrinovic for flopping. :roll:

Love seeing that, they need to start doing that in the NBA. Anderson Varejao would lead the league in Ts.

[madmax]

Those are pretty dominating stats. They're going to take Europe by storm. :roll:

too bad Weems aka "European Kobe" is shooting like 5-20 from the field:lol

[Clutch]

Massive flopping :oldlol:

[Rent]

too bad Weems aka "European Kobe" is shooting like 5-20 from the field:lol

My comment is sarcasm.

There's nothing dominating about their stats whatsoever.

[Clutch]

Kirilenko beasting :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[SunsCaptain]

lol at calling a foul for going over the top of a screen...

[madmax]

lol at calling a foul for going over the top of a screen...

screens are generally called very tight here in Europe...Garnett would not love to play here, that's for sure:lol

[SunsCaptain]

screens are generally called very tight here in Europe...Garnett would not love to play here, that's for sure:lol

I'm surprised garnett gets away with his shit in the NBA lol

[chains5000]

Weems ended with 5/16 shots...
Awesome game by Kirilenko, Teodosic was great too. None of them seemed to be forcing their game, good coaching IMO.
I had never seen Shved play, great scorer (at least today).

[Grinder]

Weems ended with 5/16 shots...
Awesome game by Kirilenko, Teodosic was great too. None of them seemed to be forcing their game, good coaching IMO.
I had never seen Shved play, great scorer (at least today).

Total contrast in quality coaching and it was apparent from watching the game.

Zalgiris players dribbled the ball around most of the possession with no purpose while CSKA had guys making sharp cuts to the hoop, swinging the ball along the perimeter and making all their weak side rotations. Pleasure to watch a fundamentally sound team.

What a dominant game by Andrei Kirilenko. :bowdown:


Teodosic looked great...must be relieved to not be playing alongside that cancer Spanoulis.

[Rent]

CSKA's two point guards had better stats than Lawson.

Teodosic - 16 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals

Shved - 19 points, 2 assists, and 1 rebound

Lawson - 7 points, 3 rebounds, and 0 assists

[chains5000]

Teodosic looked great...must be relieved to not be playing alongside that cancer Spanoulis.
Don't say that... now he'll destroy us this Friday :lol

[madmax]

so how did Weems dominating "soft and unathletic euros" work out for ya, Grinder?:lol I see that you are full of praises for Shved now, you two-faced clown:roll:

[Grinder]

so how did Weems dominating "soft and unathletic euros" work out for ya, Grinder?:lol I see that you are full of praises for Shved now, you two-faced clown:roll:

Lol, what? Find one post where I said Weems would dominate anyone or where I called EL players soft and unathletic. Hell, find one post where I said he'd be a great player in Euroleague. Hint, you won't because I've never said that. I did say I wouldn't be surprised if he leads the team in scoring and guess who lead the team in scoring today? Might want to get checked by a psychiatrist because the voices in your head are telling you stuff I never said. :oldlol:

Time to put you on ignore, you've got the IQ of a mentally challenged 5 year old.



- Alexey Shved is a baller. Can't wait to watch him blow up this season

http://forums.interbasket.net/f11/euroleague-club-competition-preseason-games-2011-17863/p5.html

From a month ago...I've always said Shved is good.

[madmax]

Lol, what? Find one post where I said Weems would dominate anyone or where I called EL players soft and unathletic. Hell, find one post where I said he'd be a great player in Euroleague. Hint, you won't because I've never said that. I did say I wouldn't be surprised if he leads the team in scoring and guess who lead the team in scoring today? Might want to get checked by a psychiatrist because the voices in your head are telling you stuff I never said. :oldlol:

Time to put you on ignore, you've got the IQ of a mentally challenged 5 year old.


http://forums.interbasket.net/f11/euroleague-club-competition-preseason-games-2011-17863/p5.html

From a month ago...I've always said Shved is good.

"Kirilenko can easily defend him using smarts and length. Shved defensively? lmao"

this was your post in IBN before todays' game.

Shved's stats after today's game - 19 pts, 2 ast, 21 ranking points...
His opponents stats - Lawson with 7 points and index rating of 4, Kalnietis with 3 pts and -2 index rating:lol

Is he still horrible defensively according to you?:D

[G-train]

CSKA's two point guards had better stats than Lawson.

Teodosic - 16 points, 8 assists, 4 rebounds, and 2 steals

Shved - 19 points, 2 assists, and 1 rebound

Lawson - 7 points, 3 rebounds, and 0 assists

Mins played? or even better a boxscore.

[Catastrophique]

Mins played? or even better a boxscore.

Euroleague -the actual league, not the crazy-troll poster- Web Site...

[Sakkreth]

NBA lockout must end so Lawson can gtfo please.

[Nick Young]

LOL Euroleague, the place where defensive roleplayer AK47 suddenly becomes a dominant two-way superstar:roll:

[chips93]

Heard lawson was benched in crunch time. I guess its just such a different game.

Any euro fans know much bout shved? Been hearing a lot bout him as a nba prospect for a while. Intriguing sounding player

[G-train]

Euroleague -the actual league, not the crazy-troll poster- Web Site...

yeah was hoping somebody might already be looking at it and post it :oldlol:

[ZenMaster]

LOL Euroleague, the place where defensive roleplayer AK47 suddenly becomes a dominant two-way superstar:roll:

Kirilenko has had games like this before in the NBA.

[chains5000]

Kirilenko has had games like this before in the NBA.
Too bad he never watches games

[Sakkreth]

Heard lawson was benched in crunch time. I guess its just such a different game.

Any euro fans know much bout shved? Been hearing a lot bout him as a nba prospect for a while. Intriguing sounding player

I don't know the reasons but Ty doesn't look good at all, he's probably only 3rd pg in the team by performance so far. Maybe he doesn't try to hard and just waits for nba lockout to end or shift from nba to fiba ball is quite difficult or it will just gonna take time. I thought he's the kind of player who would translate to fiba ball well...

Shved had some really good games in Eurobasket, looks like promising pg and well suited for nba style aswell, he has decent shooting ability and is 6'5 pg, I like his pick and roll play. Shame I didn't noticed his play before Eurobasket.

[SunsCaptain]

what game are they playing on 10/26?

It just says euroleague for ESPN3

[Sakkreth]

what game are they playing on 10/26?

It just says euroleague for ESPN3

Gonna list all the games that are going to be played on

Times are CET

Caja Laboral vs. Bennet Cantu October 26, 2011 20:00
CSKA Moscow vs. Brose Baskets October 26, 2011 18:15
KK Zagreb vs. Panathinaikos October 26, 2011 19:00
Anadolu Efes vs. Belgacom Spirou October 26, 2011 19:30

Since starting times are different you could identify that game by time the game starts I guess.

[Nick Young]

Kirilenko has had games like this before in the NBA.
not in about 5 years. Not since Deron's second year. Since Deron's second year AK47 has been a low confidence defensive stopper. In 07 he even was in the SLC tribune crying nearly every other week (literally) about how he has no confidence because he wasn't getting any touches or plays for him on the new Jazz offense where Deron and Boozer were first and second option and Okur was third option.

I should know because I lived in salt lake city for this season.

http://www.aolnews.com/2007/04/23/andrei-kirilenko-cries-over-shrinking-role/

GTFO eurokid, when's the last game you watched, how Jazz games do they even show a year in Spain? Stop reading box scores and listening to what people tell you. Stop pretending to be an NBA fan and just watch your wonderful little Euroleague where guys like Anthony Parker and Trajan Langdon are superstars:lol

So basically I will keep this short to help the Europeans with bad English-it has been about 7 years since AK47 has been the 5x5 player who was voted an allstar. It is funny how he goes to Europe and suddenly becomes that player again and even dominates offensively:roll:

[Sakkreth]

not in about 5 years. Not since Deron's second year. Since Deron's second year AK47 has been a low confidence defensive stopper. In 07 he even was in the SLC tribune crying nearly every other week (literally) about how he has no confidence because he wasn't getting any touches or plays for him on the new Jazz offense where Deron and Boozer were first and second option and Okur was third option.

I should know because I lived in salt lake city for this season.

http://www.aolnews.com/2007/04/23/andrei-kirilenko-cries-over-shrinking-role/

GTFO eurokid, when's the last game you watched, how Jazz games do they even show a year in Spain? Stop reading box scores and listening to what people tell you. Stop pretending to be an NBA fan and just watch your wonderful little Euroleague where guys like Anthony Parker and Trajan Langdon are superstars:lol

So basically I will keep this short to help the Europeans with bad English-it has been about 7 years since AK47 has been the 5x5 player who was voted an allstar. It is funny how he goes to Europe and suddenly becomes that player again and even dominates offensively:roll:

It's also funny how Ty Lawson goes to play in Europe and can't do shit...:violin:

[madmax]

It's also funny how Ty Lawson goes to play in Europe and can't do shit...:violin:

he's just chillin' man, don't you get it?:lol Only white scrubs like Kirilenko are trying hard in that scrub league...

[ZenMaster]

not in about 5 years. Not since Deron's second year. Since Deron's second year AK47 has been a low confidence defensive stopper. In 07 he even was in the SLC tribune crying nearly every other week (literally) about how he has no confidence because he wasn't getting any touches or plays for him on the new Jazz offense where Deron and Boozer were first and second option and Okur was third option.

I should know because I lived in salt lake city for this season.

http://www.aolnews.com/2007/04/23/andrei-kirilenko-cries-over-shrinking-role/

GTFO eurokid, when's the last game you watched, how Jazz games do they even show a year in Spain? Stop reading box scores and listening to what people tell you. Stop pretending to be an NBA fan and just watch your wonderful little Euroleague where guys like Anthony Parker and Trajan Langdon are superstars:lol

So basically I will keep this short to help the Europeans with bad English-it has been about 7 years since AK47 has been the 5x5 player who was voted an allstar. It is funny how he goes to Europe and suddenly becomes that player again and even dominates offensively:roll:

No it's not since the Euroleague is a step below the NBA, it's exactly how it's supposed to be since he already knows the euro game very well, and his game is just very much suited for the European team game.

Saying you expect him to play like he did in the NBA is like saying that Euroleague=NBA..

Weems and Lawson now that's a different matter..

[Rent]

not in about 5 years. Not since Deron's second year. Since Deron's second year AK47 has been a low confidence defensive stopper. In 07 he even was in the SLC tribune crying nearly every other week (literally) about how he has no confidence because he wasn't getting any touches or plays for him on the new Jazz offense where Deron and Boozer were first and second option and Okur was third option.

I should know because I lived in salt lake city for this season.

http://www.aolnews.com/2007/04/23/andrei-kirilenko-cries-over-shrinking-role/

GTFO eurokid, when's the last game you watched, how Jazz games do they even show a year in Spain? Stop reading box scores and listening to what people tell you. Stop pretending to be an NBA fan and just watch your wonderful little Euroleague where guys like Anthony Parker and Trajan Langdon are superstars:lol

So basically I will keep this short to help the Europeans with bad English-it has been about 7 years since AK47 has been the 5x5 player who was voted an allstar. It is funny how he goes to Europe and suddenly becomes that player again and even dominates offensively:roll:

It's not only Europe-based games you don't watch but also NBA games. Kirilenko had a handful of performances like this last season.

Check for yourself

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/434/andrei-kirilenko

Matter of fact, he had performances last season that were reminiscent of the old Kirilenko.

Look at the game played on December 10 of last year

- 17 points on 75% shooting, 13 rebounds, 5 assists, 3 blocks, and 2 steals

That was against the Magic.


January 28 against Wolves

- 27 points on 75% shooting, 6 rebounds, 7 assists, 5 steals, and 1 block


February 26 against Pistons

- 21 points on 81% shooting, 7 rebounds, 7 assists, and 1 block


What Kirilenko did against Zalgiris is not surprising at all. When he's healthy, he can put up great numbers.

[Nelson14]

Any highlights?

[Sakkreth]

Zouros is a good coach, but I don't think he fits well to coach Zalgiris. He likes slow tempo defensive play while Zalgiris is more like fast paced team, even more so with new additions.

[Euroleague]

so Grinder, apparently Shved is good enough for you now, am I rite or am I rite?:roll: What a clown you are dude, unbelievable...

Just ignore Grinder. I've found the site is much better if you just put him on ignore.

[Euroleague]

Euroleague -the actual league, not the crazy-troll poster- Web Site...

It's amazing how many of these clowns on this site can't figure out that the Euroleague has its own website.

[Catastrophique]

Just ignore Grinder. I've found the site is much better if you just put him on ignore.

Come on, don't be such a liar... It's pretty sure you don't have Grinder on ignore.

You wouldn't have half the fun you actually have :oldlol:

Now seriously, how do you do it? And I'm not asking about the reasons -I'd say you don't have a hidden and elaborated purpose, just the need of playing-.

I ask about the amazing perseverance and dedication. I mean, any regular human would be exhausted by now, after months and years of daily it. Bored. Fed up with doing that stuff of yours, whatever the point -or the absence of such- is. Yet you persist, like that duracell rabbit.

Truly amazing -I mean it-, if not for the ANNOYING* and disturbingly shocking part of it.



* Of course it is. Duh, you already knew.