Kobe Bryant-The Greatest in Greatest of All Time

[Nick Young]

5 rings
81 points
longest 40 point streak besides Wilt
Most complete offensive player the NBA's ever seen
Best perimeter scorer of all time
Sonned Jordan and sent him in to retirement
Probably the greatest dunk MSG has ever seen
Who can deny it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqIIbic3X8
Kobe is the G in GOAT

[SuperPippen]

One of the top 10.

:bowdown:

[Nick Young]

One of the top 1.

:bowdown:
:bowdown:

[AlphaWolf24]

I'm MAD everyone knows Kobe is top 2 alltime....so I'll say top 10....even though 2 is top 10
:bowdown:

he mad as hell...lol

[Yao Ming's Foot]

5 rings 7 finals appearances with...

no more than 1 all star teammate
no all 1st defensive team teammates

:applause:

[Miserio]

Poor mans Monta Ellis

[SuperPippen]

he mad as hell...lol

This coming from the guy who cried like a butthurt little pansy when Jordan was overwhelmingly voted the greatest guard of all time on this site (and everywhere else, actually).

Nobody who's not a borderline psychpathic Lakers fan ranks Kobe any higher than #7, at BEST. As is plainly obvious, most have him at around number 10.

If Kobe were never a Laker, you and your legion of trolls wouldn't give a shit about him.

It so obviously bothers you that people aren't buying in to the ridiculous bullshit that you're selling. I actually kind of pity you. Kind of.

A word of advice: stop caring so much. Kobe doesn't give a **** about you, buddy.

*cue the "get back in my pocket..... SON.... 2 EZ...... NEXT!!!"*




Subsequent.

[Miserio]

Kobe is not even the best Laker ever. The trophy goes to:

http://tgusta.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/shaquille.jpg

[-Original-]

:applause: props to the OP.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

:sleeping http://www.nickmanderfield.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/michael_jordan_00.jpg

Pippen

1990-91 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
1991-92 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1992-93 NBA All-Defensive (1st)

1995-96 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1996-97 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1997-98 NBA All-Defensive (1st)

Rodman
1995-96 NBA All-Defensive (1st)


Qualifies for the only one all star achievement only because he was too busy keeping the bench warm when 3 Bulls made the all star team in 94. (Armstrong, Grant, Pippen (All Star MVP))

[-Original-]

Kobe > Jordan :applause:

[Big#50]

This coming from the guy who cried like a butthurt little pansy when Jordan was overwhelmingly voted the greatest guard of all time on this site (and everywhere else, actually).

Nobody who's not a borderline psychpathic Lakers fan ranks Kobe any higher than #7, at BEST. As is plainly obvious, most have him at around number 10.

If Kobe were never a Laker, you and your legion of trolls wouldn't give a shit about him.

It so obviously bothers you that people aren't buying in to the ridiculous bullshit that you're selling. I actually kind of pity you. Kind of.

A word of advice: stop caring so much. Kobe doesn't give a **** about you, buddy.

*cue the "get back in my pocket..... SON.... 2 EZ...... NEXT!!!"*




Subsequent.
Don't be mean. He is obviously a kid. Most of the Kobe Stans are probably alt accounts. Let the kids worship their idol. They'll grow out of it soon. When they look back, I bet they'll be ashamed.

[Boston C's]

5 rings
81 points
longest 40 point streak besides Wilt
Most complete offensive player the NBA's ever seen
Best perimeter scorer of all time
Sonned Jordan and sent him in to retirement
Probably the greatest dunk MSG has ever seen
Who can deny it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqIIbic3X8
Kobe is the G in GOAT

plz stop i like kobe as a player but you and your legion of trolls are making me dislike him... even kobe doesnt believe hes the greatest but you guys continue to prop him up anyway... the reason there are kobe haters are because of you kobe trolls and half the kobe haters are really ppl who are giving him respect but are haters to you because they dont say hes number 1, ppl like superpippen ericforman etc

[SuperPippen]

Don't be mean. He is obviously a kid. Most of the Kobe Stans are probably alt accounts. Let the kids worship their idol. They'll grow out of it soon. When they look back, I bet they'll be ashamed.

Not trying to being mean. Just being honest.

Honesty is obviously something that these Kobe-stans are unfamiliar with. Hey, someone had to introduce them to the concept sooner or later.

[DMV2]

Kobe is not even the best Laker ever. The trophy goes to:

http://tgusta.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/shaquille.jpg
Kareem and Magic are also ahead of Kobe.

[the_wise_one]

5 rings
81 points
longest 40 point streak besides Wilt
Most complete offensive player the NBA's ever seen
Best perimeter scorer of all time
Sonned Jordan and sent him in to retirement
Probably the greatest dunk MSG has ever seen
Who can deny it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqIIbic3X8
Kobe is the G in GOAT

LOL WUT?????????

[KingBeasley08]

kobe = poor man's monta ellis

[Miserio]

Kareem/Wilt>Magic>Shaq>Kobe.
As players yes, as Lakers, dunno.

[Jacks3]

The Greatness of Kobe Bean Bryant!!!
9X All-NBA 1st Team
2X All-NBA 2nd Team
2X All-NBA 3rd Team
9X All-NBA 1st Team Defense
2X All-NBA 2nd Team Defense
5X Top 5 DPOY/9X Top 10 DPOY
13X Time All-Star
4X Time All-Star MVP
2X NBA Finals MVP
1X NBA MVP
10th All-Time in MVP Shares
2X Scoring Champion
5 Time NBA Champion
7 Time NBA Finalist
10 55+ Win Seasons
15X Player of the Month Winner
Slam Dunk Champion (1997)
#1 Offensive APM (10 Year Study)
#10 All-Time in WAR
24 Career Average PER (15 Seasons)
2X Gold Medalist
Sporting News Player of the Decade
TNT Player of the Decade
ESPN Player of the Decade
Sports Illustrated Top 20 Male Athlete of the Decade (2000s) #7 (the only NBA player in the top 10)


Has more 50+ point games than any player in history not named Wilt or Jordan (25)
Has more 40+ point games than any player in history not named Wilt or Jordan (110)
Has more 60+ point games than any player in history not named Wilt (5)
Record Holder: Highest percentage of team points (2005-2006)
Record Holder: Most threes in one game (12)
Only player in history to score at least 600 points in three consecutive post-seasons
2001-2010 RS: 28.6 PPG/5.7 RPG/5.4 APG/1.7 SPG/0.6 BPG/56% TS
2001-2010 PS: 28.8 PPG/5.8 RPG/5.2 APG/1.8 SPG/0.6 BPG/56% TS
Some of his best seasons:
35 PPG/5 RPG/5 APG/2 SPG/0.5 BPG/56% TS
32 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/1.5 SPG/0.5 BPG/58% TS
30 PPG/7 RPG/6 APG/2 SPG/1 BPG/55% TS
29 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/2 SPG/0.6 BPG/55% TS
28 PPG/6 RPG/6 APG/2 SPG/0.5 BPG/58% TS
27 PPG/5 RPG/5 APG/1.5 SPG/0.5 BPG/56% TS
27 PPG/5 RPG/5 APG/1.5 SPG/0.4 BPG/55% TS
28 PPG/6 RPG/6 APG/1.4 SPG/0.5 BPG/56% TS
26 PPG/6 APG/6 RPG/2 SPG/0.6 BPG/55% TS
Some of his best post-seasons:
29 PPG/7 RPG/6 APG/2 SPG/1 BPG/56% TS (16 games)
27 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/2 SPG/0.5 BPG/52% TS (22 games)
30 PPG/6 APG/6 APG/1.4 SPG/0.5 BPG/58% TS (22 games)
30 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/1.5 SPG/0.4 BPG/57% TS (23 games)
29 PPG/6 RPG/6 APG/1.4 SPG/0.4 BPG/57% TS (23 games)
29 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/1.3 SPG/0.3 BPG/58% TS (7 games)
33 PPG/5 RPG/5 APG/1.4 SPG/0.4 BPG/56% TS (5 games)
4 straight 45+ point games (2006)
4 straight 50+ point games (2007)
9 straight 40+ point games (2003)
13 straight 35+ point games (2003)
81 pts
62 points in three quarters. Outscored opposing team by himself.
27 40+ point games in one season (Only Wilt/Jordan have done that)
10 50+ point games in one season (Only player beside Wilt to do so)
Has three different games where he scored 30+ in one quarter.
Has six different games where he scored 50+ pts though three quarters.
Has five different months where he averaged 40+ PPG.
One of seven players ever with 25,000 pts/5,000 rbs/5,000 asts
6th on All-Time Scoring List
4th on All-Time Playoff Scoring List

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Kareem/Shaq/West better Lakers?


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[with malice]

Surely this thread is a fishing expedition... right?


One of the top 10.

:bowdown:
I'd agree with this. Not sure why some people regard this as a slight.


Kobe is not even the best Laker ever. The trophy goes to:

http://tgusta.es/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/shaquille.jpg
Thank you for just posting how clueless you are on this subject.

[Big#50]

The Greatness of Kobe Bean Bryant!!!
9X All-NBA 1st Team
2X All-NBA 2nd Team
2X All-NBA 3rd Team
9X All-NBA 1st Team Defense
2X All-NBA 2nd Team Defense
5X Top 5 DPOY/9X Top 10 DPOY
13X Time All-Star
4X Time All-Star MVP
2X NBA Finals MVP
1X NBA MVP
10th All-Time in MVP Shares
2X Scoring Champion
5 Time NBA Champion
7 Time NBA Finalist
10 55+ Win Seasons
15X Player of the Month Winner
Slam Dunk Champion (1997)
#1 Offensive APM (10 Year Study)
#10 All-Time in WAR
24 Career Average PER (15 Seasons)
2X Gold Medalist
Sporting News Player of the Decade
TNT Player of the Decade
ESPN Player of the Decade
Sports Illustrated Top 20 Male Athlete of the Decade (2000s) #7 (the only NBA player in the top 10)


Has more 50+ point games than any player in history not named Wilt or Jordan (25)
Has more 40+ point games than any player in history not named Wilt or Jordan (110)
Has more 60+ point games than any player in history not named Wilt (5)
Record Holder: Highest percentage of team points (2005-2006)
Record Holder: Most threes in one game (12)
Only player in history to score at least 600 points in three consecutive post-seasons
2001-2010 RS: 28.6 PPG/5.7 RPG/5.4 APG/1.7 SPG/0.6 BPG/56% TS
2001-2010 PS: 28.8 PPG/5.8 RPG/5.2 APG/1.8 SPG/0.6 BPG/56% TS
Some of his best seasons:
35 PPG/5 w/5 APG/2 SPG/0.5 BPG/56% TS
32 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/1.5 SPG/0.5 BPG/58% TS
30 PPG/7 RPG/6 APG/2 SPG/1 BPG/55% TS
29 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/2 SPG/0.6 BPG/55% TS
28 PPG/6 RPG/6 APG/2 SPG/0.5 BPG/58% TS
27 PPG/5 RPG/5 APG/1.5 SPG/0.5 BPG/56% TS
27 PPG/5 RPG/5 APG/1.5 SPG/0.4 BPG/55% TS
28 PPG/6 RPG/6 APG/1.4 SPG/0.5 BPG/56% TS
26 PPG/6 APG/6 RPG/2 SPG/0.6 BPG/55% TS
Some of his best post-seasons:
29 PPG/7 RPG/6 APG/2 SPG/1 BPG/56% TS (16 games)
27 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/2 SPG/0.5 BPG/52% TS (22 games)
30 PPG/6 APG/6 APG/1.4 SPG/0.5 BPG/58% TS (22 games)
30 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/1.5 SPG/0.4 BPG/57% TS (23 games)
29 PPG/6 RPG/6 APG/1.4 SPG/0.4 BPG/57% TS (23 games)
29 PPG/6 RPG/5 APG/1.3 SPG/0.3 BPG/58% TS (7 games)
33 PPG/52/1.4 SPG/0.4 BPG/56% TS (5 games)
4 straight 45+ point games (2006)
4 straight 50+ point games (2007)
9 straight 40+ point games (2003)
13 straight 35+ point games (2003)
81 pts
62 points in three quarters. Outscored opposing team by himself.
27 40+ point games in one season (Only Wilt/Jordan have done that)
10 50+ point games in one season (Only player beside Wilt to do so)
Has three different games where he scored 30+ in one quarter.
Has six different games where he scored 50+ pts though three quarters.
Has five different months where he averaged 40+ PPG.
One of seven players ever with 25,000 pts/5,000 rbs/5,000 asts
6th on All-Time Scoring List
4th on All-Time Playoff Scoring List

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Kareem/Shaq/West better Lakers?


:roll: :roll: :roll:
Kareem/Shaq is obvious. Kobe is way better than West. Not even close.

[Jacks3]

Kareem/Shaq is obvious. Kobe is way better than West. Not even close.
:roll:

The ONLY player with a case over Bryant is Magic and even he's said Kobe is the GOAT Laker.

Deal with it.

[BEAST Griffin]

The 3rd best player in an era can't be the GOAT.



















Next.

[Big#50]

The 3rd best player in an era can't be the GOAT.











Next.
KG/Dirk have a case for third best player. Kobe isn't the clear cut choice for third best player. Then Wade/Lebron came along.

[RazorBaLade]

KG/Dirk have a case for third best player. Kobe isn't the clear cut choice for third best player. Then Wade/Lebron came along.

.......... just because op is trolling doesnt mean you have to

[DuMa]

1 MVP lol

[Nevaeh]

Pippen

1990-91 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
1991-92 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1992-93 NBA All-Defensive (1st)

1995-96 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1996-97 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
1997-98 NBA All-Defensive (1st)

Rodman
1995-96 NBA All-Defensive (1st)


Qualifies for the only one all star achievement only because he was too busy keeping the bench warm when 3 Bulls made the all star team in 94. (Armstrong, Grant, Pippen (All Star MVP))

Yet no championship won that year......Darnit :hammerhead:

[Nick Young]

1 MVP lol
lawl ringless nash who never went to a finals has two and also more MVPs than Shaq and as much as Karl Malone!


MVP Is a popularity contest. Kobe deserves atleast 4 MVPs if the voters actually gave the award to the best player and not just the most marketable story.

[pegasus]

1 MVP lol

That doesn't mean anything. He definitely deserved more. Probably 2 or 3.

I still believe Jordan > Kobe, though. Kobe's career isn't done yet, though. So my opinion may change eventually.

[BlueandGold]

:sleeping http://www.nickmanderfield.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/michael_jordan_00.jpg
Love that picture. Impeccable resume from Jordan. Kobe will never match it.

[Yung D-Will]

Kareem/Wilt>Magic>Shaq>Kobe.
I don't even care about Kobe but that's stupid. Wilt can't >Magic and Shaq>Kobe if you're talking about greatest players for a franchise you have to consider how long these players played for their franchise and Kobe and Magic played basiclly their whole career for LA and brought success in records or championships

Whiles wilt Spent a very good number of years on other teams and Shaq spent a very good number of years on Orlando and Miami

[CeltsGarlic]

Kobe > Jordan :applause:

Messi > C.Ronaldo

obviously NOT.

[pegasus]

Kobe has zero chance to surpass Jordan. Put down the crack pipe.

If he wins two more FMVP's, I think you would be having second thoughts and debating your decision. You would probably be hoping on and off his pipe, repeatedly.

[RRR3]

If he wins two more FMVP's, I think you would be having second thoughts and debating your decision. You would probably be hoping on and off his pipe, repeatedly.
Keep in mind, Kobe has actually played MORE games than MJ.

Career PPG Regular Season
MJ: 30.12 (Best Ever)
KB: 25.3 (10th Best Ever)

Career PPG Postseason
MJ: 33.4 (Best Ever)
KB: 25.4 (14th best ever)

Single Regular Season High
MJ: 37.1
KB: 35.4

Single Postseason High
MJ: 43.7
KB: 32.8

Scoring Titles
MJ: 10 (including 7 straight)
KB: 2

Times Leading Postseason in PPG
MJ: 10
KB: 3

Regular Seasons 25+ PPG
MJ: 11
KB: 11

Regular Seasons 30+ PPG
MJ: 8
KB: 3

Regular Seasons 35+ PPG
MJ: 2
KB: 1

Postseasons 25+ PPG
MJ: 13
KB: 8

Postseasons 30+ PPG
MJ: 12
KB: 4

Postseasons 35+ PPG
MJ: 5
KB: 0

Postseasons 40+ PPG
MJ: 1
KB: 0

Single Game Regular Season High
MJ: 69
KB: 81

Single Game Postseason High
MJ: 63
KB: 50

Regular Season Games with 50 or more Points
MJ: 31
KB: 24

Postseason Games with 50 or more Points
MJ: 8
Kobe: 1

And that's just scoring, Kobe's biggest strength, and MJ is still clearly better (much better in playoffs and against elite defenses). MJ shits on Kobe as a defender (he deserved his all-defense teams and won a DPOY too), was a better rebounder and passer, won FMVP EVERY finals MVP he ever played in and was much more efficient than Kobe. So no, I don't really care how many more "RINGZZZ" Kobe wins, he'll never be close to Jordan. Sorry.

[Nick Young]

lol if you go by stats is Robertson the GOAT then?

81 points, what is MJ's career high again?

NUFF SED

[RRR3]

lol if you go by stats is Robertson the GOAT then?

81 points, what is MJ's career high again?

NUFF SED
Points is a stat, bright boy.

[iggy>]

6 finals mvps>2... And one of the 2 was stolen from gasol.

[AlexanderRight]

How can he be the greatest player of all time when he's not event the fourth greatest Laker? :confusedshrug:

[Dbrog]

The 3rd best player in an era can't be the GOAT.



















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[HurricaneKid]

lol if you go by stats is Robertson the GOAT then?

81 points, what is MJ's career high again?

NUFF SED

I'm still pretty new here. I was trying to figure out what the green dots and red dots were under people's names. Did you know that when you put your cursor over his red dots it says

"Nick Young has one of the lowest reputations on this board"

Which explains how he makes this thread.

[32Dayz]

6 finals mvps>2... And one of the 2 was stolen from gasol.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

So True.


Finalz VS Boston.

Turnovers.
Kobe : 28
Gasol : 13

G1.
Gasol : 23 / 14 (8 0ffensive) / 3 / 3BPG | 57% shooting
Kobe : 30 / 7 / 6 | 45% shooting
G1 = Gasol > Kobe

G2.
Gasol : 25 / 8 / 3 / 6BPG | 70% shooting
Kobe : 21 / 5 / 6 | 40% shooting
G2 = Gasol > Kobe

G3.
Gasol : 13 / 10 / 4 / 2BPG | 46% shooting
Kobe : 29 / 7 / 4 | 34% shooting
G3 = Kobe > Gasol

G4.
Gasol : 21 / 6 / 3 / 2BPG | 46% shooting
Kobe : 33 / 6 / 2 | 45% shooting
G4 = Kobe > Gasol

G5.
Gasol : 12 / 12 (7 0ffensive) | 42% shooting
Kobe : 38 / 5 / 4 | 48% shooting
G5 = Kobe > Gasol

G6.
Gasol : 17 / 13 (5 0ffensive) / 9 / 3BPG | 44% shooting
Kobe : 26 / 11 / 3 | 47% shooting
G6 = Gasol > Kobe

G7.
Gasol : 19 / 18 (9 offensive) / 4 / 2BPG | 38% shooting
Kobe : 23 / 15 / 2 | 25% shooting
G7 = Gasol > Kobe

Finalz Summary.
7 Games.
Gasol better in 4/7 Games
Gasol better in 3/4 Games Won
Kobe better in 3/7 Games
Gasol > Kobe in Finalz.

[HurricaneKid]

Lets take a look at the #s. People think I'm a Kobe hater. I'm really not. I'm an analytical observer and not impressed with "his killer instinct", etc over measurables.

Jordan led the league in WS and PER a total of 16 times. Kobe has never led the league in either. There are complaints about how PER but that complaint is that it favors the volume shooter, something that should benefit Kobe. IN FACT, KOBE HAS NEVER even been SECOND in PER. And his PER totals are inflated due to his volume shooting as evidenced by his WS totals. HE HAS NEVER BEEN IN THE TOP THREE in WS.

Go watch game 7 of the 06 Suns series or the Finals against the Pistons. All of you that say LBJ quit the last two years will see equally pouty and poor play from Kobe.

He is a great player. He will probably be in my top 10 of all time due to his consistent greatness over the years. But better than MJ? STFU.

[32Dayz]

He is a great player. He will probably be in my top 10 of all time due to his consistent greatness over the years. But better than MJ? STFU.

He will probably always be borderline top 10 for me.

He might get my 10 spot but West/Oscar/KG all have solid arguments for it with a few other people.

+ I strongly believe he will be surpassed by Wade and Lebron when all is said and done. Its practically inevitable at this point unless they suffer serious injurys.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

How can he be the greatest player of all time when he's not event the fourth greatest Laker? :confusedshrug:

Because the people who only rate him as only the 4th best Laker of all time are dorks on a message board and the people who rate him as the greatest Laker of all time are fellow greats (http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/11/shaquille-oneal-calls-kobe-bryant-greatest-laker-of-all-time.html).

:confusedshrug:

[RRR3]

Because the people who only rate him as only the 4th best Laker of all time are dorks on a message board and the people who rate him as the greatest Laker of all time are fellow greats (http://lakersblog.latimes.com/lakersblog/2011/11/shaquille-oneal-calls-kobe-bryant-greatest-laker-of-all-time.html).

:confusedshrug:
No sane person can think Kobe is better than Kareem.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

No sane person can think Kobe is better than Kareem.

"If he gets another championship, he'll tie with Kareem. That will put him up there."

:confusedshrug:

[32Dayz]

No sane person can think Kobe is better than Kareem.

Laker Greats.

Shaq / Magic / Kareem / West >>>>>>>> Kube.

West and Kobe may be close but the rest aren't.

[RRR3]

"If he gets another championship, he'll tie with Kareem. That will put him up there."

:confusedshrug:
Horry>Kobe. He has more rings. You've got to stop just looking at the stats!

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Horry>Kobe. He has more rings. You've got to stop just looking at the stats!

Are you talking to Shaq? I'm pretty sure he's not just looking at rings. He's probably counting the countless other Laker records Kobe will retire with. If nobody cared about rings Kobe would still be a legend of the game.

[Deuce Bigalow]

It's funny when a fan believes something that even who he is a fan of doesn't believe in, Kobe admitting Jordan was the GOAT
Also like Round Mound believing that Chuck > Kobe, when Chuck has Kobe #6 alltime

[ThaRegul8r]

Kareem/Wilt>Magic>Shaq>Kobe.

Kareem and Wilt were not better than Magic as Lakers.

[rodman91]

Get real.He isn't even greatest Laker.

[RRR3]

Typical Kobe stan:
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/9c210d2844dddce651dfd80e915b4225.jpg

[Solid Snake]

You know what Kobe is missing?

That one, iconic, memorable FINALS PERFORMANCE. That game/series you can look back on and be inspired by.

[Asukal]

Some people like their beer light, in this case MJ lite. :cheers:

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Shaq also said Amar'e Stoudemire was a better defender than KG. Citing him doesn't really help your credibility.

Link?

I don't know I guess I'm crazy, but if Jerry West says Kobe is better than him I tend to believe it. When Shaq says Kobe is better than him, I tend to believe him. When Magic says Kobe is better than him, I tend to believe him.

:confusedshrug:

[9erEmpire]

You know what Kobe is missing?

That one, iconic, memorable FINALS PERFORMANCE. That game/series you can look back on and be inspired by.

fail.

Kobe's Finals stats versus Orlando.

32.4 5.6 7.4 1.4 1.4

[BigBalla44]

Link?

I don't know I guess I'm crazy, but if Jerry West says Kobe is better than him I tend to believe it. When Shaq says Kobe is better than him, I tend to believe him. When Magic says Kobe is better than him, I tend to believe him.

:confusedshrug:

So if Kobe says MJ is the greatest to ever play the game, do you believe him?

[Yao Ming's Foot]

So if Kobe says MJ is the greatest to ever play the game, do you believe him?

Yep. If when Kobe retires he claims that Jordan or any other player in the past, present or future is better than him. I would believe him. :confusedshrug:

[ThaRegul8r]

Link?

I don't know I guess I'm crazy, but if Jerry West says Kobe is better than him I tend to believe it. When Shaq says Kobe is better than him, I tend to believe him. When Magic says Kobe is better than him, I tend to believe him.

:confusedshrug:

So if Kobe says MJ is the greatest to ever play the game, do you believe him?

It only counts if it supports the agenda.

[32Dayz]

fail.

Kobe's Finals stats versus Orlando.

32.4 5.6 7.4 1.4 1.4

VS one of the weakest "contending" teams of this Era.

Look what Lebron did to them (38/8/8 60%FG)

outside of 02 and 09 he hasnt had any great finals performances.
01 was "decent" although his G1 stinker cost them the sweep.

00, 04, 08, 10 were all horrid.

[9erEmpire]

VS one of the weakest "contending" teams of this Era.

Look what Lebron did to them (38/8/8 60%FG)

outside of 02 and 09 he hasnt had any great finals performances.
01 was "decent" although his G1 stinker cost them the sweep.

00, 04, 08, 10 were all horrid.

Lebron did that to them in the Playoffs.

Kobe did that to them in the Finals, when the intensity and level of play rises.

Please don't compare playoffs to the Finals. We know that Lebron lays an egg in the Finals.

At least bring up another player if you are trying to argue against Kobe.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe: "He (Jordan) is the greatest of alltime"

now shut the **** up already

[KingBeasley08]

Kobe: "He (Jordan) is the greatest of alltime"

now shut the **** up already
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[Vertical-24]

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So True.

Why do you always feel the need to jump in with your Kobe-Gasol stats? You didnt make your point the first hundred times?

[The Iron Fist]

Why do you always feel the need to jump in with your Kobe-Gasol stats? You didnt make your point the first hundred times?
and the funny thing is, no matter how many times he posts it,

the trophy will never be in a Gasol household.

[The Iron Fist]

VS one of the weakest "contending" teams of this Era.

Look what Lebron did to them (38/8/8 60%FG)

outside of 02 and 09 he hasnt had any great finals performances.
01 was "decent" although his G1 stinker cost them the sweep.

00, 04, 08, 10 were all horrid.
That team, had the DPOY.
That team, was 6th best in points allowed.


As a matter of fact, Kobe has played against the DPOY in the finals, 3 times.

Lebron got shut down by Jason Kidd.:roll:

[100grandman]

Kobe will never be better than MJ, get over it people.


And Jason Kidd didn't shut down Lebron......Lebron took Jason Kidd anywhwere he wanted on the floor, it's just that Lebron would blow the layups and baby jumpers......it wasn't anything that J Kidd was doing.

[Doctor Rivers]

Kobe will never be better than MJ, get over it people.


And Jason Kidd didn't shut down Lebron......Lebron took Jason Kidd anywhwere he wanted on the floor, it's just that Lebron would blow the layups and baby jumpers......it wasn't anything that J Kidd was doing.

you're right it wasnt kidd, it was marion

[D-Wade316]

Typical Kobe stan:
http://fotos.fotoflexer.com/9c210d2844dddce651dfd80e915b4225.jpg
I envy your photoshopping skills:cheers:

repped

[D-Wade316]

That team, had the DPOY.
That team, was 6th best in points allowed.


As a matter of fact, Kobe has played against the DPOY in the finals, 3 times.

Lebron got shut down by Jason Kidd.:roll:
:no: The entire Laker team, except Kobe, shot a sizzling 47.0fg% against the DPOY-led Magic.

[barnett114]

That bitch Jacks3 went through his 35th account on RealGM.

[TheMan]

I'm still pretty new here. I was trying to figure out what the green dots and red dots were under people's names. Did you know that when you put your cursor over his red dots it says

"Nick Young has one of the lowest reputations on this board"

Which explains how he makes this thread.
It's these endless Kobe>MJ threads these retarded kobe stans make that give these ******gers neg reps, deservedly so...

[Legends66NBA7]

That bitch Jacks3 went through his 35th account on RealGM.

Jacks3 police, thank you for the constant updates :oldlol:

[HurricaneKid]

Lebron did that to them in the Playoffs.

Kobe did that to them in the Finals, when the intensity and level of play rises.

Please don't compare playoffs to the Finals. We know that Lebron lays an egg in the Finals.

At least bring up another player if you are trying to argue against Kobe.

So Kobe fans are actually arguing that teams don't try in the Conference Finals now? And that Kobe's best Finals performance was absolutely crushed by LBJs in the previous series because Orlando don't try against LeBron?

Do you guys even think about what you are writing?

[JohnnyWall]

And that Kobe's best Finals performance was absolutely crushed by LBJs in the previous series because Orlando don't try against LeBron?

When did LeBron face the Magic in the finals?


Please don't compare playoffs to the Finals.

[32Dayz]

That Magic team was weak as hell and had no perimeter defense.

Lebron only lost to them because he didn't have a Gasol to shut Dwight down like Kobe did.

Kobe Stan Translation : Please dont compare Playoffs to Finals we all know how much Kobe usually sucks in the Finals.

[LBJFTW]

Does it really need to be quoted AGAIN? I thought we already covered this on these boards. Do a search next time before making such a ridiculous claim.

[quote]
Seasons over 30 points per game:
Michael Jordan: 8
Kobe Bryant: 2

Seasons over 32 points per game:
Michael Jordan: 5
Kobe Bryant: 1

In NBA history, there are 13 50 point games with under 50% shooting, and Kobe Bryant is responsible for 6 of them.

Kobe Bryant also has:
2nd worst known game score for a player scoring 10+ points. (5-21 shooting)
2nd worst known game score for a player scoring 30+ points. (11-29)
Worst and 4th worst known game scores for a player scoring 40+ points. (17-47, 12-30)

Regular season
Seasons under 50% shooting
Kobe Bryant: 14
Michael Jordan: 9

Seasons under 48% shooting:
Kobe Bryant: 14
Michael Jordan: 5

Seasons over 50% shooting:
Kobe Bryant: 0
Michael Jordan: 6

Seasons over 52% shooting:
Kobe Bryant: 0
Michael Jordan: 4

Regular season
Games with under 50% shooting
Michael Jordan: 489
Kobe Bryant: 623

Regular season
Games with under 48% shooting
Michael Jordan: 458
Kobe Bryant: 599

Regular season
Games with under 46% shooting
Michael Jordan: 388
Kobe Bryant: 530

Regular season
Games with under 44% shooting
Michael Jordan: 296
Kobe Bryant: 452

Regular season
Games with under 42% shooting
Michael Jordan: 234
Kobe Bryant: 393

Regular season
Games with under 40% shooting
Michael Jordan: 158
Kobe Bryant: 317

Regular season
Games with under 35% shooting
Michael Jordan: 88
Kobe Bryant: 192

Regular season
Games with under 30% shooting
Michael Jordan: 41
Kobe Bryant: 97

Regular season
Games with 60% or better shooting
Michael "Air" Jordan: 173
Kobe "Bean" Bryant: 123

Regular season
Games with 50% or better shooting
Michael "Air" Jordan: 556
Kobe "Bean" Bryant: 393

Regular season
Games with 20 shots made on 60% or better shooting
MJ: 16
Kobe: 3

Rookie of the Year
Michael Jordan: Yes
Kobe Bryant: No

In his rookie year, Michael Jordan led his team in scoring, rebounding, assists and steals. Kobe Bryant wasn't good enough to beat out Eddie Jones for the starting spot his rookie year.

All-Rookie First Team
Michael Jordan: Yes
Kobe Bryant: No

Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with 12 or more assists
Michael Air Jordan: 32
Kobe Bryant: 19

Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with 10 or more assists:
Michael Air Jordan: 87
Kobe Bean Bryant: 74

Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with 5 or more assists:
Michael Air Jordan: 663
Kobe Bean Bryant: 593

Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with less than 3 assists:
Michael Air Jordan: 179
Kobe Bryant: 261

Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with less than 2 assists:
Michael Air Jordan: 61
Kobe Bryant: 142

Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with 0 assists:
Michael Air Jordan: 7
Kobe Bryant: 57

Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with at least 15 rebounds:
Michael Air Jordan: 10
Kobe Bryant: 5

Regular season & Playoffs combined
Games with at least 12 rebounds:
Michael Air Jordan: 66
Kobe Bryant: 29

Percentage of points scored on free throws:
Michael Air Jordan: 22.9%
Kobe Bryant: 25.1%

Record in games with 30+ shot attempts
Michael Air Jordan: 72-57 (.558)
Kobe Bean Bryant: 46-61 (.368)
Michael Jordan shot his team to wins, Kobe Bryant shoots his team out of wins.

Seasons with at least 200 steals:
Michael Air Jordan: 6
Kobe Bryant: 0

Seasons with at least 150 steals:
Michael Air Jordan: 9
Kobe Bryant: 2

Seasons with at least 100 blocks:
Michael Air Jordan: 2
Kobe Bryant: 0

Seasons with at least 75 blocks:
Michael Air Jordan: 4
Kobe Bryant: 0

Defensive Player of the Year awards
Michael Jordan: 1
Kobe Bryant: 0

Michael averaged 35 points per game when he won defensive player of the year. The next closest scorer to win it had 27 ppg. Guards rarely receive Defensive Player of the Year. Think about the level of energy it takes to lead the league in scoring, and be the league's best defender.

Regular season & Playoffs combined
40 point or higher games
MJ: 211
Kobe: 115

Regular season & Playoffs combined
30 point or higher games
MJ: 671
Kobe: 415

Career Player Efficiency Rating
Michael Jordan: 27.91
Kobe Bryant: 23.50

Olympic Gold Medals
Michael Jordan: 2
Kobe Bryant: 1

Michael Jordan is one of three players to win an Olympic gold as both an amateur (1984) and professional (1992). The other players are Patrick Ewing and Chris Mullin, who did it with him.

All Star Game:
Jordan

[HYJ]

lawl ringless nash who never went to a finals has two and also more MVPs than Shaq and as much as Karl Malone!


MVP Is a popularity contest. Kobe deserves atleast 4 MVPs if the voters actually gave the award to the best player and not just the most marketable story.


In popularity.

Kobe > Nash.

[32Dayz]

:lol @ Kobe deserving 4 MVP's.

He only had 2 years where you could argue with he was the MVP of the league.

06 + 07.

The rest he was never even close to having a case for the Award.

[Horatio33]

Kobe destruction here:

http://hoopspeak.com/2010/10/kobe-bryant-michael-jordan-conversation/

Not even fair, poor little self appointed nicknamed mamba. Every kind of stat proves Jordan was streets ahead of Kobe.

[barnett114]

Jacks3 police, thank you for the constant updates :oldlol:

:cheers:

[HurricaneKid]

When did LeBron face the Magic in the finals?

The games were three days apart. You guys are talking about the exact same teams the exact same week.

LeBron had one of the most spactacular and ridiculous games ever played. I just remember Kenny, Chuck and everyone after the game stunned, saying you can't just post a guy at the ft line and have him win the game for you. It just can't happen. We'll see how it works for LA now that coach Brown is over there...

[Soundwave]

The "greatest in greatest of all time" doesn't get swept in the playoffs by the Mavericks like a b-tch. Sorry.

It's going to be funny when the Heat win and everyone proclaims LeBron as the greatest of all time.