Kobe Bryant against the Suns in the 2010 playoffs

[Heavincent]

Just kind of thought of how dominant Kobe was in this series. Game 6 in particular was amazing. Every time the Suns scored in the fourth quarter, Kobe would come right back and hit some ridiculous momentum-killing shot. Kobe flat out carried the Lakers in this series. They probably would have lost if not for his heroics.

Game 1: 40/5/5
Game 2: 21/5/13
Game 3: 36/9/11
Game 4: 38/7/10
Game 5: 30/11/9
Game 6: 37/6/2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjZZ2e-wr5c

Reggie Miller on Kobe after game 6: "He showed tonight that he is truly the best player and closer in the league."

And before anyone says "lulz the Suns defense sux", no, this was not a defense coached by Mike "What's defense?" D'Antoni. The Suns had a very solid defense in 2010. Just watch the highlights. Kobe was hitting ridiculously hard shots throughout the series.

Bow down to Lord Mamba :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Game 4 - 38 Points, 7 rebounds, 10 Assists on .800 TS%

[King24]

He was sick the entire playoffs:

29-6-6-2-46% FG-57%TS
18 30+ point games

And did on a busted knee, too.

Great run.

[Legends66NBA7]

I actually briefly summarized all of Kobe's shots in that series in another thread. I did so because some posters said Kobe went up against an easy defense:

Game 1

- Goes one on one with Dudley, makes a tough shot in the paint.
- 3 pointer, contested by J-Rich
- Ridiculous fall away shot by Kobe, that's impossible to guard
- Mid range, contested by Amar'e
- Literally hits over a double team of G-Hill and J-Rich, ridiculous shot
- Great split on the screen by Kobe, bad defense there, makes a tough floater
- 3 pointer, late contest by Nash
- Mid range shot, good defense by G-Hill
- Step back shot, contest by Dudley
- Great back door play by Kobe and 1, poor defense and foul on Frye
- Open court lay up on a turnover, pass from Odom
- 3 pointer by Kobe, late uncontested run by Barbosa
- Turnaround fadeaway by Kobe, no contest, looked J-Rich slipped up

Game 2
- Mid range jumper, good contest by Hill
- Layup, Lopez on the switch
- 3 pointer, runby J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, contested by Dudley
- Pump fake turnaround jumper, contested by Hill and Lopez
- Mid range jumper, lazy contest/face guard by Hill
- Inside free throw line jumper, face gaurd by Dudley
- Great cross by Kobe for the jumper


Game 3
- Turnaround fadeaway jumper, contested by Lopez
- Mid range jumper, contested by Hill
- Fakes out Lopez, layup
- 3 pointer, hand down man down Hill
- Mid range jumper, contested by Dudley
- Tough fallaway jumper, contested by Amar'e
- Mid range jumper, poor contest by Frye
- Rebound, fake out of Lopez, layup
- Switch on Nash, Mid range jumper after running into the screener Gasol
- 3 pointer, made it on a switch on Nash, Nash contests though
- Switch barbosa, drives, hits jumper, contested by Frye
- Bad defense by the suns, Kobe finds away to drive it to the basket

Game 4
- Mid range jumper, contested by Amundson
- Mid range jumper, contested by Amundson
- 3 pointer, contested by Amundson
- 3 pointer, no contest by Amundson, stand his ground
- Mid range jumper, contest by J-Rich
- 3 pointer, no contest, bad D by J-Rich
- Pull up jumper, late face guard contest by Hill
- 3 pointer, switch on Nash, no chance for Nash there
- 3 pointer, run by Amar'e
- Pull up jumper, lazy/no contest by Frye
- Basline fadeaway, nothing you can do there
- 3 pointer, lazy defense on Dudley, should have contested it better
- Switch on Nash, draws foul, jumper, and 1
- Layup, good move by Kobe
- Pull up jumper, no contest

Game 5
- Jumper, contest by J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, great contest by Dragic
- 3 pointer, close out by Barbosa
- Runs into triple team, pull up 3 pointer, no contest
- 3 pointer, contest by Nash
- Mid range jumper, face guard by Nash
- Fast break dunk
- Drives, jumper, great contest by Hill
- Mid range jumper, contested by J-Rich, ran into double team
- 3 pointer, poor defense by the Suns but their zoning up
- Mid range jumper, face guard by Dragic
- Mid range jumper, no contest by Barbosa

Game 6
- Mid range jumper, contested by Hill
- Drives, draws foul, tough runner, and 1
- 3 pointer, contested by J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, contest by Amar'e
- Deep 3 pointer, nothing you can do there
- Mid range jumper, of the screen, no contest by Amar'e on the recover
- Mid range jumper, great contest by Dudley
- Fadeaway jumper, contested by Dudley
- Basline fadeaway, that's pretty much unguardable, contested by Frye
- Tough mid range jumper, contested by Frye and Dudley
- Double team comes, turns hits jumper, over contested Hill and Frye
- Jumper on Hill, ridiculously difficult, great contest by Hill



All this for:

33.7pts 7.2reb 8.3ast 52%fg

To me, the Suns actually played him pretty damn well. Just Kobe being Kobe

[Heavincent]

He was sick the entire playoffs:

29-6-6-2-46% FG-57%TS
18 30+ point games

And did on a busted knee, too.

Great run.

It's tough to decide which playoff run was better: 09 or 10.

[Deuce Bigalow]

someone post the gif of that shot to seal the game

[Heavincent]

I actually briefly summarized all of Kobe's shots in that series in another thread. I did so because some posters said Kobe went up against an easy defense:

Game 1

- Goes one on one with Dudley, makes a tough shot in the paint.
- 3 pointer, contested by J-Rich
- Ridiculous fall away shot by Kobe, that's impossible to guard
- Mid range, contested by Amar'e
- Literally hits over a double team of G-Hill and J-Rich, ridiculous shot
- Great split on the screen by Kobe, bad defense there, makes a tough floater
- 3 pointer, late contest by Nash
- Mid range shot, good defense by G-Hill
- Step back shot, contest by Dudley
- Great back door play by Kobe and 1, poor defense and foul on Frye
- Open court lay up on a turnover, pass from Odom
- 3 pointer by Kobe, late uncontested run by Barbosa
- Turnaround fadeaway by Kobe, no contest, looked J-Rich slipped up

Game 2
- Mid range jumper, good contest by Hill
- Layup, Lopez on the switch
- 3 pointer, runby J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, contested by Dudley
- Pump fake turnaround jumper, contested by Hill and Lopez
- Mid range jumper, lazy contest/face guard by Hill
- Inside free throw line jumper, face gaurd by Dudley
- Great cross by Kobe for the jumper


Game 3
- Turnaround fadeaway jumper, contested by Lopez
- Mid range jumper, contested by Hill
- Fakes out Lopez, layup
- 3 pointer, hand down man down Hill
- Mid range jumper, contested by Dudley
- Tough fallaway jumper, contested by Amar'e
- Mid range jumper, poor contest by Frye
- Rebound, fake out of Lopez, layup
- Switch on Nash, Mid range jumper after running into the screener Gasol
- 3 pointer, made it on a switch on Nash, Nash contests though
- Switch barbosa, drives, hits jumper, contested by Frye
- Bad defense by the suns, Kobe finds away to drive it to the basket

Game 4
- Mid range jumper, contested by Amundson
- Mid range jumper, contested by Amundson
- 3 pointer, contested by Amundson
- 3 pointer, no contest by Amundson, stand his ground
- Mid range jumper, contest by J-Rich
- 3 pointer, no contest, bad D by J-Rich
- Pull up jumper, late face guard contest by Hill
- 3 pointer, switch on Nash, no chance for Nash there
- 3 pointer, run by Amar'e
- Pull up jumper, lazy/no contest by Frye
- Basline fadeaway, nothing you can do there
- 3 pointer, lazy defense on Dudley, should have contested it better
- Switch on Nash, draws foul, jumper, and 1
- Layup, good move by Kobe
- Pull up jumper, no contest

Game 5
- Jumper, contest by J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, great contest by Dragic
- 3 pointer, close out by Barbosa
- Runs into triple team, pull up 3 pointer, no contest
- 3 pointer, contest by Nash
- Mid range jumper, face guard by Nash
- Fast break dunk
- Drives, jumper, great contest by Hill
- Mid range jumper, contested by J-Rich, ran into double team
- 3 pointer, poor defense by the Suns but their zoning up
- Mid range jumper, face guard by Dragic
- Mid range jumper, no contest by Barbosa

Game 6
- Mid range jumper, contested by Hill
- Drives, draws foul, tough runner, and 1
- 3 pointer, contested by J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, contest by Amar'e
- Deep 3 pointer, nothing you can do there
- Mid range jumper, of the screen, no contest by Amar'e on the recover
- Mid range jumper, great contest by Dudley
- Fadeaway jumper, contested by Dudley
- Basline fadeaway, that's pretty much unguardable, contested by Frye
- Tough mid range jumper, contested by Frye and Dudley
- Double team comes, turns hits jumper, over contested Hill and Frye
- Jumper on Hill, ridiculously difficult, great contest by Hill



All this for:

33.7pts 7.2reb 8.3ast 52%fg

To me, the Suns actually played him pretty damn well. Just Kobe being Kobe

Great post :applause:

[Deuce Bigalow]

It's tough to decide which playoff run was better: 09 or 10.

09 was better

30/5/6 on 56 TS%
32/6/7 Finals
34/6/6 WCF

2008 was also better than his 10 run

[King24]

09 was better

30/5/6 on 56 TS%
32/6/7 Finals
34/6/6 WCF

2008 was also better than his 10 run
Agreed.

[Heavincent]

09 was better

30/5/6 on 56 TS%
32/6/7 Finals
34/6/6 WCF

2008 was also better than his 10 run

I'd take 10 over 08 just because he got it done in the Finals.

[BlackJoker23]

goat:bowdown:

[Legends66NBA7]

Great post :applause:

Glad you agree. Unfortunately, there will be moronic Kobe trolls who will just say I am hater if I even criticize him. Sad.

[Miller for 3]

I actually briefly summarized all of Kobe's shots in that series in another thread. I did so because some posters said Kobe went up against an easy defense:

Game 1

- Goes one on one with Dudley, makes a tough shot in the paint.
- 3 pointer, contested by J-Rich
- Ridiculous fall away shot by Kobe, that's impossible to guard
- Mid range, contested by Amar'e
- Literally hits over a double team of G-Hill and J-Rich, ridiculous shot
- Great split on the screen by Kobe, bad defense there, makes a tough floater
- 3 pointer, late contest by Nash
- Mid range shot, good defense by G-Hill
- Step back shot, contest by Dudley
- Great back door play by Kobe and 1, poor defense and foul on Frye
- Open court lay up on a turnover, pass from Odom
- 3 pointer by Kobe, late uncontested run by Barbosa
- Turnaround fadeaway by Kobe, no contest, looked J-Rich slipped up

Game 2
- Mid range jumper, good contest by Hill
- Layup, Lopez on the switch
- 3 pointer, runby J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, contested by Dudley
- Pump fake turnaround jumper, contested by Hill and Lopez
- Mid range jumper, lazy contest/face guard by Hill
- Inside free throw line jumper, face gaurd by Dudley
- Great cross by Kobe for the jumper


Game 3
- Turnaround fadeaway jumper, contested by Lopez
- Mid range jumper, contested by Hill
- Fakes out Lopez, layup
- 3 pointer, hand down man down Hill
- Mid range jumper, contested by Dudley
- Tough fallaway jumper, contested by Amar'e
- Mid range jumper, poor contest by Frye
- Rebound, fake out of Lopez, layup
- Switch on Nash, Mid range jumper after running into the screener Gasol
- 3 pointer, made it on a switch on Nash, Nash contests though
- Switch barbosa, drives, hits jumper, contested by Frye
- Bad defense by the suns, Kobe finds away to drive it to the basket

Game 4
- Mid range jumper, contested by Amundson
- Mid range jumper, contested by Amundson
- 3 pointer, contested by Amundson
- 3 pointer, no contest by Amundson, stand his ground
- Mid range jumper, contest by J-Rich
- 3 pointer, no contest, bad D by J-Rich
- Pull up jumper, late face guard contest by Hill
- 3 pointer, switch on Nash, no chance for Nash there
- 3 pointer, run by Amar'e
- Pull up jumper, lazy/no contest by Frye
- Basline fadeaway, nothing you can do there
- 3 pointer, lazy defense on Dudley, should have contested it better
- Switch on Nash, draws foul, jumper, and 1
- Layup, good move by Kobe
- Pull up jumper, no contest

Game 5
- Jumper, contest by J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, great contest by Dragic
- 3 pointer, close out by Barbosa
- Runs into triple team, pull up 3 pointer, no contest
- 3 pointer, contest by Nash
- Mid range jumper, face guard by Nash
- Fast break dunk
- Drives, jumper, great contest by Hill
- Mid range jumper, contested by J-Rich, ran into double team
- 3 pointer, poor defense by the Suns but their zoning up
- Mid range jumper, face guard by Dragic
- Mid range jumper, no contest by Barbosa

Game 6
- Mid range jumper, contested by Hill
- Drives, draws foul, tough runner, and 1
- 3 pointer, contested by J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, contest by Amar'e
- Deep 3 pointer, nothing you can do there
- Mid range jumper, of the screen, no contest by Amar'e on the recover
- Mid range jumper, great contest by Dudley
- Fadeaway jumper, contested by Dudley
- Basline fadeaway, that's pretty much unguardable, contested by Frye
- Tough mid range jumper, contested by Frye and Dudley
- Double team comes, turns hits jumper, over contested Hill and Frye
- Jumper on Hill, ridiculously difficult, great contest by Hill



All this for:

33.7pts 7.2reb 8.3ast 52%fg

To me, the Suns actually played him pretty damn well. Just Kobe being Kobe

Great work man :applause:

[zass]

i felt sorry for Nash

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnWGXKA0I_Q

[Phong]

someone post the gif of that shot to seal the game
http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2011/10/19/111019044103568356.gif

[Heavincent]

http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2011/10/19/111019044103568356.gif

Good work as always Phong :applause:

[Flagrant 2]

Haters are scared of this thread and are hoping it doesn't get bumped and goes away.

KOBE BLACK MAMBA :bowdown:

[Heavincent]

How was his FG% so good in this series? He was taking a lot of ridiculous shots.

Game 1: 57%
Game 2: 42%
Game 3: 54%
Game 4: 68% (:eek:)
Game 5: 44%
Game 6: 48%

[D-Wade316]

Wade against the Celtics > Kobe against the Suns







Next

[Heavincent]

Wade against the Celtics > Kobe against the Suns







Next

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Lame, weak, and uninspired trolling effort.

Better luck next time.

[King24]

http://i55.tinypic.com/1z1h841.jpg

Incredible. Maybe the GOAT jump-shooting series.

[Legends66NBA7]

http://i55.tinypic.com/1z1h841.jpg

Incredible. Maybe the GOAT jump-shooting series.


I actually briefly summarized all of Kobe's shots in that series in another thread. I did so because some posters said Kobe went up against an easy defense:

Game 1

- Goes one on one with Dudley, makes a tough shot in the paint.
- 3 pointer, contested by J-Rich
- Ridiculous fall away shot by Kobe, that's impossible to guard
- Mid range, contested by Amar'e
- Literally hits over a double team of G-Hill and J-Rich, ridiculous shot
- Great split on the screen by Kobe, bad defense there, makes a tough floater
- 3 pointer, late contest by Nash
- Mid range shot, good defense by G-Hill
- Step back shot, contest by Dudley
- Great back door play by Kobe and 1, poor defense and foul on Frye
- Open court lay up on a turnover, pass from Odom
- 3 pointer by Kobe, late uncontested run by Barbosa
- Turnaround fadeaway by Kobe, no contest, looked J-Rich slipped up

Game 2
- Mid range jumper, good contest by Hill
- Layup, Lopez on the switch
- 3 pointer, runby J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, contested by Dudley
- Pump fake turnaround jumper, contested by Hill and Lopez
- Mid range jumper, lazy contest/face guard by Hill
- Inside free throw line jumper, face gaurd by Dudley
- Great cross by Kobe for the jumper


Game 3
- Turnaround fadeaway jumper, contested by Lopez
- Mid range jumper, contested by Hill
- Fakes out Lopez, layup
- 3 pointer, hand down man down Hill
- Mid range jumper, contested by Dudley
- Tough fallaway jumper, contested by Amar'e
- Mid range jumper, poor contest by Frye
- Rebound, fake out of Lopez, layup
- Switch on Nash, Mid range jumper after running into the screener Gasol
- 3 pointer, made it on a switch on Nash, Nash contests though
- Switch barbosa, drives, hits jumper, contested by Frye
- Bad defense by the suns, Kobe finds away to drive it to the basket

Game 4
- Mid range jumper, contested by Amundson
- Mid range jumper, contested by Amundson
- 3 pointer, contested by Amundson
- 3 pointer, no contest by Amundson, stand his ground
- Mid range jumper, contest by J-Rich
- 3 pointer, no contest, bad D by J-Rich
- Pull up jumper, late face guard contest by Hill
- 3 pointer, switch on Nash, no chance for Nash there
- 3 pointer, run by Amar'e
- Pull up jumper, lazy/no contest by Frye
- Basline fadeaway, nothing you can do there
- 3 pointer, lazy defense on Dudley, should have contested it better
- Switch on Nash, draws foul, jumper, and 1
- Layup, good move by Kobe
- Pull up jumper, no contest

Game 5
- Jumper, contest by J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, great contest by Dragic
- 3 pointer, close out by Barbosa
- Runs into triple team, pull up 3 pointer, no contest
- 3 pointer, contest by Nash
- Mid range jumper, face guard by Nash
- Fast break dunk
- Drives, jumper, great contest by Hill
- Mid range jumper, contested by J-Rich, ran into double team
- 3 pointer, poor defense by the Suns but their zoning up
- Mid range jumper, face guard by Dragic
- Mid range jumper, no contest by Barbosa

Game 6
- Mid range jumper, contested by Hill
- Drives, draws foul, tough runner, and 1
- 3 pointer, contested by J-Rich
- Mid range jumper, contest by Amar'e
- Deep 3 pointer, nothing you can do there
- Mid range jumper, of the screen, no contest by Amar'e on the recover
- Mid range jumper, great contest by Dudley
- Fadeaway jumper, contested by Dudley
- Basline fadeaway, that's pretty much unguardable, contested by Frye
- Tough mid range jumper, contested by Frye and Dudley
- Double team comes, turns hits jumper, over contested Hill and Frye
- Jumper on Hill, ridiculously difficult, great contest by Hill



All this for:

33.7pts 7.2reb 8.3ast 52%fg

To me, the Suns actually played him pretty damn well. Just Kobe being Kobe

Put all the shots and add the context and prespective to it... You probably onto something King 24.

[ClutchBucketz]

http://i55.tinypic.com/1z1h841.jpg

Incredible. Maybe the GOAT jump-shooting series.
:eek:

[swi7ch]

Jordan in his playoff career NEVER averaged fewer than 30 ppg. He has also NEVER quit on his team in the playoffs unlike Kobe (remember against the PHO series a few years back and the last game of the championship against BOS?).

[Legends66NBA7]

Jordan in his playoff career NEVER averaged fewer than 30 ppg. He has also NEVER quit on his team in the playoffs unlike Kobe (remember against the PHO series a few years back and the last game of the championship against BOS?).

That's great.

I think everyone with their head on straight knows that Jordan > Kobe in everything except 3 point shooting.

No need for the history lesson here. If you have a problem with Kobe, don't open the thread about him.

Unless you trolling.

[Heavincent]

Jordan in his playoff career NEVER averaged fewer than 30 ppg. He has also NEVER quit on his team in the playoffs unlike Kobe (remember against the PHO series a few years back and the last game of the championship against BOS?).

2/10

Bad trolling. Pretty weak effort.

[G-train]

Larry Bird had some series where he shot really well, in regards to the 'best shooting series' discussion.

[Nevaeh]

2/10

Bad trolling. Pretty weak effort.

That's not trolling, that's the Truth, something Kobe Stans are allergic to, or constantly mistake for trolling :rolleyes:

[King24]

Wade against the Celtics > Kobe against the Suns


Jordan in his playoff career NEVER averaged fewer than 30 ppg. He has also NEVER quit on his team in the playoffs unlike Kobe (remember against the PHO series a few years back and the last game of the championship against BOS?).

:facepalm

[King24]

Another thread about to be ruined.

[Legends66NBA7]

That's not trolling, that's the Truth, something Kobe Stans are allergic to, or constantly mistake for trolling :rolleyes:

Who honestly with their head on straight and are not trolling think Kobe > Jordan though ?

[D-Wade316]

That's not trolling, that's the Truth, something Kobe Stans are allergic to, or constantly mistake for trolling :rolleyes:
Yep. Kobe stans are always mad when the truth is said.

[Heavincent]

That's not trolling, that's the Truth, something Kobe Stans are allergic to, or constantly mistake for trolling :rolleyes:

Jordan has nothing to do with this thread. Neither does the 06 series against the Suns (he didn't quit anyway).

This was a great thread for about a page and a half. No other players were even mentioned. It was just a good discussion about the series.

[G-train]

TBH, probably the best thread heavencent has started. props.

[Legends66NBA7]

Jordan has nothing to do with this thread. Neither does the 06 series against the Suns (he didn't quit anyway).

This was a great thread for about a page and a half. No other players were even mentioned. It was just a good discussion about the series.

That's what I said. Jordan has had more impressive series here. But geez. Jordan fans don't need to come in with the history lesson.

Dwyane Wade was mentioned too.

[Nevaeh]

Jordan has nothing to do with this thread. Neither does the 06 series against the Suns (he didn't quit anyway).

This was a great thread for about a page and a half. No other players were even mentioned. It was just a good discussion about the series.

What was the Defense rating and ranking of those Suns? Just curious, since its always used against retired Players' competition.

[Heavincent]

TBH, probably the best thread heavencent has started. props.

I know I'm responsible for some trolling in the past :oldlol:

It was always in good fun though. It's pretty easy to know when I'm just dicking around. Some people don't get it though.

[Legends66NBA7]

What was the Defense rating and ranking of those Suns? Just curious, since its always used against retired Players' competition.

If you read my post from earlier, the rating can go to the trash can. I used my eyes to see how the defense was being played. They actually pretty damn good for the most part.

Hill played Kobe solid. So did Dudley. J-Rich was overmatched really. The help was there or Kobe split them. Kobe' s 3 point shot in this series was bang on.

If other use the ratings for the older players than your trolled, man. Ignore them and move on. If you saw how good those defenses back then, that's all that should matter to you. Not some troll.

Anything to say about Kobe's performance ?

[Nevaeh]

If you read my post from earlier, the rating can go to the trash can. I used my eyes to see how the defense was being played. They actually pretty damn good for the most part.

Hill played Kobe solid. So did Dudley. J-Rich was overmatched really. The help was there or Kobe split them. Kobe' s 3 point shot in this series was bang on.

If other use the ratings for the older players than your trolled, man. Ignore them and move on. If you saw how good those defenses back then, that's all that should matter to you. Not some troll.

Anything to say about Kobe's performance ?

In other words, you don't know :oldlol: As far as Kobe, good Playoffs up until the Finals. What else is new?

[G-train]

http://i56.tinypic.com/rsvke8.jpg

:D

[Rab]

Even as a Suns fan, I have to give it up to Kobe for his performance in that series. The Suns played Kobe as well as they ever had and dude was still hitting tough shot after tough shot. It was incredibly frustrating to watch.

[D-Wade316]

Anything to say about Kobe's performance ?
Above average for someone like him. Not on the level of legendary performances.

[Legends66NBA7]

In other words, you don't know :oldlol: As far as Kobe, good Playoffs up until the Finals. What else is new?

Really man ?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHO/2010.html

Are you happy now ? Successful troll, is successful.

You can answer that question yourself.

[cuad]

I remember that game six. It was unbelievable. I feel like that series went under the radar for some reason though. Zach Randolph did the same thing to the Spurs last year.

[Phong]

What was the Defense rating and ranking of those Suns? Just curious, since its always used against retired Players' competition.23rd overall, although from the All-Star Game to the end of the season, the Suns were 12th in defensive efficiency in the league.

[Nevaeh]

Really man ?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/PHO/2010.html

Are you happy now ? Successful troll, is successful.

You can answer that question yourself.


Cool man, thanks. Flagrant2 begged for a little "hate" a few posts back, so I had to help him out :cheers: Enjoy guys.

[Legends66NBA7]

Cool man, thanks. Flagrant2 begged for a little "hate" a few posts back, so I had to help him out :cheers: Enjoy guys.

Oh I see it now. Gee, thanks Nevaeh. I forgot this is ISH, where everything needs Kobe, Jordan, LeBron, Wade in everything. :cheers:

[RRR3]

While in agree that people shouldn't detail this thread and discredit Kobe the op does the same thing to Lebron threads so he really shouldn't be bitching

[Heavincent]

While in agree that people shouldn't detail this thread and discredit Kobe the op does the same thing to Lebron threads so he really shouldn't be bitching

I only do that in pauk's threads because it makes him rage.

[TheAesirsFinest]

While in agree that people shouldn't detail this thread and discredit Kobe the op does the same thing to Lebron threads so he really shouldn't be bitching

I've seen Heavin say nice things about LeBron actually. Unfortunately, he seems to be in the minority that consists of non-batshit-crazy LeBron haters.

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2011/10/19/111019044103568356.gif

:applause:
repped

[OmniStrife]

Kobe went crazy during that series and single handedly killed us.
If he didn't have such a series the Suns could've gone all the way that year.

What was even scarier is that if you watch his shots, Hill played GREAT defence on him and 90% of them were HEAVILY contested.

[MaxFly]

He mid-ranged Phoenix to death that series.

[LBJDWADE63]

LeBron's 38/8/8 against Orlando>> Kobrick against the suns.

[pegasus]

LeBron's 38/8/8 against Orlando>> Kobrick against the suns.

It's like saying your dad's mistress >>> your mom.

Your mom got the ring, dude. Just deal with it.

[NoName22]

Damn, these haters coming to this thread like flies approach shit.

We can't have nice things here.

[NoName22]

It's like saying your dad's mistress >>> your mom.

Your mom got the ring, dude. Just deal with it.

http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/gladbron.gif

[scm5]

He mid-ranged Phoenix to death that series.

Death by Midrange...

Sounds incredibly frustrating to play against. I could FEEL the frustration building up for the Suns players that series.

[NugzHeat3]

Kobe played some of the best offensive ball I've ever seen from anyone in that series.

None of that excessive dribbling, jab stepping for 7 seconds to free himself and create space. Dude was making quick and the right decisions and didn't buy into that gimmick zone defense the Suns played. He was moving the ball too and distributing when required. I remember Wade struggling against the same 2-3 zone PHX threw at him in the season. Made him a bit tenative.

But yeah his jumper was on fire all series long and with the type of defense being played, you'd have people saying Hill shut him down if he was missing those shots.

The Lakers perimeter shooting was garbage all series long IIRC. Fisher and Artest couldn't buy a bucket and they played zone for a couple of games which made the lane clogged. Kobe was just on fire. I needed to say that one more time.

To be fair though, a lot of times he was matched up on Nash's side and Nash couldn't do much.

[lefthook00]

It's like saying your dad's mistress >>> your mom.

Your mom got the ring, dude. Just deal with it.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA

[amfirst]

It's like saying your dad's mistress >>> your mom.

Your mom got the ring, dude. Just deal with it.


:roll:

[HylianNightmare]

Death by Midrange...

Sounds incredibly frustrating to play against. I could FEEL the frustration building up for the Suns players that series.

agreed, that shit would drive me crazy

[magic chiongson]

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thats some great defense by grant hill

[Micku]

thats some great defense by grant hill

Yeah. Kobe was just unstoppable in that series. He was definitely feeling the rhythm.

[HylianNightmare]

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:applause: :bowdown:

[Dwade305]

It's like saying your dad's mistress >>> your mom.

Your mom got the ring, dude. Just deal with it.
:lol :lol

[BIZARRO]

I love Kobe's game, and he was great against Utah and Phoenix in those playoffs.

But let's be honest and accurate; Phoenix was softer than Charmin...proven by and...

....Secondly, for those claiming how amazing he was in those whole playoffs,
Kobe avg'd 23.5, 4, and 4.3 while shooting 40.8% in the combined series against OKC and Boston that playoffs.

That's pretty brutal, so let's be careful of revisionist history. :facepalm

[DatDudeD]

I love Kobe's game, and he was great against Utah and Phoenix in those playoffs.

But let's be honest and accurate; Phoenix was softer than Charmin...proven by and...

....Secondly, for those claiming how amazing he was in those whole playoffs,
Kobe avg'd 23.5, 4, and 4.3 while shooting 40.8% in the combined series against OKC and Boston that playoffs.

That's pretty brutal, so let's be careful of revisionist history. :facepalm

His health wasnt up to par in that okc series but once he got that knee drained... he destroyed utah and phoenix, and despite what people say he played well during that celtics series did what he had to do to win, it was a grind out defensive series and nobody on either team played THAT well. apparently you didnt watch the playoffs that year.....:confusedshrug:

[Deuce Bigalow]

I love Kobe's game, and he was great against Utah and Phoenix in those playoffs.

But let's be honest and accurate; Phoenix was softer than Charmin...proven by and...

....Secondly, for those claiming how amazing he was in those whole playoffs,
Kobe avg'd 23.5, 4, and 4.3 while shooting 40.8% in the combined series against OKC and Boston that playoffs.

That's pretty brutal, so let's be careful of revisionist history. :facepalm

vc OKC
Game 4 - 12/3/4 on 32 min, Lakers got blownout
Game 5 - 13/3/7 in 29 min, Lakers blowout OKC

numbers dont tell the whole story dude

[Dave3]

vc OKC
Game 4 - 12/3/4 on 32 min, Lakers got blownout
Game 5 - 13/3/7 in 29 min, Lakers blowout OKC

numbers dont tell the whole story dude
Still averaged 20 FGA for the series. Doesn't matter though. Started playoffs slow, then played well, then struggled against a strong defense. Even the best struggle against the best.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Still averaged 20 FGA for the series. Doesn't matter though. Started playoffs slow, then played well, then struggled against a strong defense. Even the best struggle against the best.

When you play in 2 blowout games it will skew the stats, espicially if your talking about just 13 games

[Dave3]

When you play in 2 blowout games it will skew the stats, espicially if your talking about just 13 games
They didn't skew anything because he still played enough minutes and attempted enough shots. He shot poorly against both of those teams. In fact, in those blowouts he shot better (5/10 and 4/9 I think) than he did in the games he played full minutes, so if anything, they skewed his efficiency upwards. Not to mention he still averaged 37 mpg and 20 FGA for the series. What, 2 more minutes and one more FGA would make a huge difference in his FG% and ppg?

[Deuce Bigalow]

They didn't skew anything because he still played enough minutes and attempted enough shots. He shot poorly against both of those teams. In fact, in those blowouts he shot better (5/10 and 4/9 I think) than he did in the games he played full minutes, so if anything, they skewed his efficiency upwards. Not to mention he still averaged 37 mpg and 20 FGA for the series. What, 2 more minutes and one more FGA would make a huge difference in his FG% and ppg?

Game 4 was over by the 3rd quarter
Game 5 was over by halftime/3rd quarter

I actually watched the games

[Dave3]

Game 4 was over by the 3rd quarter
Game 5 was over by halftime/3rd quarter

I actually watched the games
When did I deny any of that? I watched the games too. How do those facts change anything I said in my post?

If you play 30 min in one game, then 43 in another 2, then your average mpg is still high 30s, which is the average for any star. Every star player has fluctuations in their minutes. That's why average numbers exist. What's the difference between playing 43, 30, and 43 minutes in 3 games, or playing 37, 37, and 38 minutes in 3 games?

[Deuce Bigalow]

they were blowouts, that changes everything about the stats

[Dave3]

they were blowouts, that changes everything about the stats
And that's why average numbers exist. Because there are outliers everywhere when taking in data. If he still shot 20 FGA/game for the series then what harm did those 2 games do? Prevented him from averaging 25 FGA/game? Outliers happen. They're not just thrown out though, they're incorporated into averages.

[King24]

Yeah, and he averaged 29-6-6-2-57% TS on a bum knee for the playoffs, including 18 30+ point games. Incredible run. :bowdown:

[King24]

Keep in mind he really didn't start looking like himself until he got his knee drained after Game 4 of the First Round:

Put up 31/7/6/58% TS in the last 19 games. :bowdown:

lol @ revisionist history.

[thejumpa]

He was ballin for sure....but it's the Suns we are talking about. They don't play defense.......at all. For a 1 on 1 guy like Kobe, it's feeding time for all 48 minutes. Their best defender is 38 and they play a lot of zone....

[Phong]

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[Nelson14]

Ruhless

[BEAST Griffin]

Don't forget, guys. This was all done with a destroyed knee and other physical ailments.

Kobe "GOD" Bryant did this despite. Imagine him without his physical ailments. :eek:


:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:



/sarcasm

[pegasus]

That playoff run proved that he was still the best player in the world in 2010.

Now before the haters bring up his stats against the Celtics... it was an incredibly tough series in terms of defense being played, and it was pretty much predetermined before the game 7 that Kobe would have won the FMVP even if Boston had won.

He was THAT much better than any other player from both teams.

[Nick Young]

Kobe was pissed Nash took two of his MVPs so had to take revenge and destroy the old man's spirit

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe was pissed Nash took two of his MVPs so had to take revenge and destroy the old man's spirit

:oldlol:

[AlphaWolf24]

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Da GAWD!!......









2nd to no one!




take that to the bank!

[MaxFly]

He was ballin for sure....but it's the Suns we are talking about. They don't play defense.......at all. For a 1 on 1 guy like Kobe, it's feeding time for all 48 minutes. Their best defender is 38 and they play a lot of zone....

I don't know if commenting on the defense is the best strategy to marginalize his play from that series. Many of the shots he was taking and hitting weren't easy, and there were quite a number of occasions where it didn't matter what kind of defense was being played... he just continued to hit mid-range shots.

It's funny that when people mention that most teams from the 60s, 70s, and 80s played like the Suns did in 2009-2010 (with several years where the league average was to give up 110-118 points a game), others balk and argue that you can't compare eras.

[pauk]

easily his best series ever

[Bigsmoke]

Wade against the Celtics > Kobe against the Suns







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[Heavincent]

easily his best series ever

Not "easily". He has had a lot of amazing series.

[Jacks3]

Some of his other series during that 08-10 stretch:

2010 Finals: 29-8-5-2-53% TS-26+ PER
2010 WCF: 34-9-7-2-61% TS
2010 WCSF: 33-6-5-1.5-60% TS
2009 NBA Finals: 32-7-6-2-1-54% TS-29 PER
2009 WCF: 34-6-6-2-60% TS
2008 WCF: 30-6-6-2-61% TS
2008 WCSF:34-7-6-2-60% TS
2008 1st Round: 33-7-7-2-60% TS

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Dave3]

Keep in mind he really didn't start looking like himself until he got his knee drained after Game 4 of the First Round:

Put up 31/7/6/58% TS in the last 19 games. :bowdown:

lol @ revisionist history.
What revisionist history? This entire thread is about him playing well. Who's said otherwise?

[macpierce]

He was ballin for sure....but it's the Suns we are talking about. They don't play defense.......at all. For a 1 on 1 guy like Kobe, it's feeding time for all 48 minutes. Their best defender is 38 and they play a lot of zone....
wait so you mean any great one on one player could of hit those tough contested jumpshots for a full 6 game series at such a high clip? if kobe missed those shots, ppl would be saying great defense by hill, but he made them even though hill played solid defensively.

[thejumpa]

I don't know if commenting on the defense is the best strategy to marginalize his play from that series. Many of the shots he was taking and hitting weren't easy, and there were quite a number of occasions where it didn't matter what kind of defense was being played... he just continued to hit mid-range shots.

It's funny that when people mention that most teams from the 60s, 70s, and 80s played like the Suns did in 2009-2010 (with several years where the league average was to give up 110-118 points a game), others balk and argue that you can't compare eras.

Good point. A tough shot is a tough shot no matter what kind of defense is being played. That being said, I don't think the majority of his shots were that tough. Check this out....not sure if it's been posted or not

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDmnJAaxnQQ

Yeah, he was hitting some tough shots in that clip, but for the most part they were all routine shots for him. His 3's were either wide open or he caught the pass fully in rhythm. The defense looked like they were in awe of what they were seeing. No one had their hand up or anything. Shit, he was getting to the rim, creating space, and scoring with ease. When you have every move in the book, and play Phoenix, it's a wrap. I fully expected him to go off like that. Hell, I'd expect that as of right now. That's why it's not really impressive to me. The only tough shots I saw were some of the fading baseline jumpers and a couple elbow jumpers where he double clutched it in.

[Jacks3]

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GOAT shooting series. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: