The Tuesday, Oct. 18 NBA labor meeting with mediator lasted over 16 hours!

[insidehoops]

Update: Here's what actually happened:

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=8465

[hoopaddict08]

The sad thing is, no deal will probably be reached. If anything, we will be finding out whether or not they will be canceling more games.

[Collie]

12 Goddamn hours!! What the hell were they even talking about?

[SpecialQue]

12 Goddamn hours!! What the hell were they even talking about?

Stuff.

[TheCalmInsanity]

12 Goddamn hours!! What the hell were they even talking about?

Women and booze.

[MeLO MvP 15]

FALSE ALARM. c'mon jeff stay updated.

[insidehoops]

Well, meeting is still going.

[ukfan22]

Well, meeting is still going.

I guess this means good things, they must be making progress.

[hoopaddict08]

Things they COULD be doing:

UNO
Connect Four
Watching re-runs of Saved by the Bell
Hula-Hoop contest
Baking cookies
Halloween costume party
Counting their $$$
Madden Tourney
I'm running out of ideas

[Heavincent]

This is what is happening in the meeting:


http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/vv104/mariochalmers/kg-1.jpg

[Positive]

This is what is happening in the meeting:
:roll: :roll: :roll:
David Stern in that pic is perfect.

[MichaelCheazley]

Is it playing for anyone else?

[Miller for 3]

This is what is happening in the meeting:


dude that is just epic :bowdown:

[insidehoops]

Is it playing for anyone else?

It won't play until the meeting ends and the conferences begin

[bagelred]

This is what is happening in the meeting:

Baron Davis :lol

[Applause]

This is what is happening in the meeting:


:applause: :applause: :lol :applause: :applause:

[Collie]

They've just finished the 7th Harry Potter movie in a marathon.

[GOATofGOATS]

Come on now, it was a 12 hour meeting with a mediator. They had to have gotten something done....right?.....right?

[MichaelCheazley]

^^ They were making progress until Kevin Garnett F***ed everything up. lol

[SpecialQue]

Words With Friends?

Angry Birds?

Twister?

[Delta_Hoop]

^^ They were making progress until Kevin Garnett F***ed everything up. lol

So I've heard. :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

Come on now, it was a 12 hour meeting with a mediator. They had to have gotten something done....right?.....right?

Wrong. It's the NBA we're talking about here.

They're just gonna be like "Sorry guys, we didn't really do anything".

[Collie]

14 hours and counting.

[Delta_Hoop]

Wrong. It's the NBA we're talking about here.

They're just gonna be like "Sorry guys, we didn't really do anything".

Yup. I'm tired of hearing things like that, especially in articles or reports that say "Little to no progress made". How can they talk so damn long and get nowhere? It's just boggles my mind.

[Delta_Hoop]

14 hours and counting.

They're still at it? Wow, David Aldridge said on Twitter that it was almost over like an hour ago. That tweet disappeared though apparently unless I'm going crazy. Another victim of a false alarm. :oldlol:

[MichaelCheazley]

Yup. I'm tired of hearing things like that, especially in articles or reports that say "Little to no progress made". How can they talk so damn long and get nowhere? It's just boggles my mind.
Do you think the 1000 hour kobe/lebron debates get us anywhere? Maybe theyre alot more like ish than we think.

[PacerRaptor]

a mediator will not waste 14 hours of his time if no progress was not being made

[bagelred]

a mediator will not waste 14 hours of his time if no progress was not being made

Apparently, this guy had 17 different sessions with the NFL parties, and couldn't get a deal. So don't be so sure.......

[ukfan22]

a mediator will not waste 14 hours of his time if no progress was not being made

Gotta think that's true.

[PacerRaptor]

NEW YORK (AP) - NBA players and owners met for more than 14 hours with a federal mediator, hoping to deliver the progress Commissioner David Stern says is needed to avoid canceling more games.

The talks started about 10 a.m. Tuesday. Stern sought immediate results in just one day of mediation, saying during interviews last week that proposals could get worse and more games could be lost without a deal.

"If there's a breakthrough, it's going to come on Tuesday,'' he told NBA TV. "And if not, I think that the season is really going to potentially escape from us because we aren't making any progress.''

This was the longest negotiating session since owners locked out players when the old collective bargaining agreement expired at the end of the day June 30.

In another interview, Stern told WFAN radio in New York that his "gut'' was there wouldn't be NBA games on Christmas if the 110th day of the lockout ended without a deal.

Large gaps remain, with both sides seeking 53 percent of basketball revenues and players opposing owners' attempts to significantly change the salary cap system.

George Cohen, who was appointed director of the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service in 2009, met with the sides individually at their offices Monday before both brought their full bargaining committees to a hotel Tuesday. The union said it wanted to have the whole week set aside for negotiations, but owners have two days of board meetings beginning Wednesday.

Stern wants to be able to bring them a deal. If not, they may have to discuss further cancellations after the first two weeks of the season were already wiped out.

Cohen was present for talks between NFL owners and players for 16 days in February and March before that mediation broke off.

He previously helped broker a deal between Major League Soccer and its players and was lead lawyer for the baseball players' union when it won an injunction against its owners in 1995, ending the 7 1/2-month strike.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/basketball/nba/wires/10/18/2030.ap.bkn.nba.labor.4th.ld.writethru.0418/

does this mean that the talks are over?

[GoRapz]

a mediator will not waste 14 hours of his time if no progress was not being made

:lol that's what i'm saying. I'm staying up until I hear something!!

[cteach111]

watch.. after 15 hours... "the players decided to move from 53 to 52"

"we're making progress!" :facepalm

[DuMa]

stay in there all night long all week long. as long as it takes. get this ****ing lockout lifted. no basketball is driving me CRAZY

[Collie]

http://p.twimg.com/AcF3dwCCAAEOzzQ.png

[SunsCaptain]

Any1 with a TV near by let me know if they start airing the press conference? Doing some things on my computer So ill be checking this thread.

[nightprowler10]

Anybody remember that episode of the Shield when Vick traps the two drug dealers in the container overnight? Remember how that ended?

[SpecialQue]

http://p.twimg.com/AcF3dwCCAAEOzzQ.png

:roll: :oldlol: :lol

[insidehoops]

Just speculating here, but it's now 12:49am ET and I have to GUESS that if the owners and players weren't making real progress tonight after almost 15 hours, they'd have ended the meeting already... right?

Being optimistic, but, it seems LOGICAL that if they're going this long, maybe they feel they might be close to a deal, and figure they can nail it TONIGHT, even if it's at some insane late hour?

Just wishful thinking.

I don't really think they'll agree to a deal at, say, 2am or something, but maybe they'll agree on some sort of general framework. Something close that can be wrapped up within days, maybe.

Or not. We'll see. But if all hope was lost for today, they'd have called it quits earlier.

[Mr Know It All]

I have to get up at 8 tomorrow and I'm staying up for this. They better have something good to tell me!:mad:

[MeLO MvP 15]

Just speculating here, but it's now 12:49am ET and I have to GUESS that if the owners and players weren't making real progress tonight after almost 15 hours, they'd have ended the meeting already... right?

Being optimistic, but, it seems LOGICAL that if they're going this long, maybe they feel they might be close to a deal, and figure they can nail it TONIGHT, even if it's at some insane late hour?

Just wishful thinking.
Being an optimist I think this seems about right. But that being said, if there was a deal to be agreed upon (which there is!) it shouldn't take long at all...

[PacerRaptor]

Just speculating here, but it's now 12:49am ET and I have to GUESS that if the owners and players weren't making real progress tonight after almost 15 hours, they'd have ended the meeting already... right?

Being optimistic, but, it seems LOGICAL that if they're going this long, maybe they feel they might be close to a deal, and figure they can nail it TONIGHT, even if it's at some insane late hour?

Just wishful thinking.
I highly doubt that they'll have a CBA ready to go today. They might have majority of it set out and small pieces which can be dealt with tomorrow...but overall its a good sign that they've been punching this out for 15 hours...there is no way a mediator wastes 15 hours of their time if there was little or no progress.

[DuMa]

im watching NBATV's playoff gem. good game with jordan in 1993 vs hawks game 3 which jordan comes back from a badly sprained ankle to close out the hawks. but every commercial break they do a rick kamla and david aldridge labor update. they are just reshowing the same info so im guessing theyre waiting for some news as well besides the press conference to come at the end of the meeting

[GoRapz]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Shouldn't be surprising, but two league sources briefed on meeting say luxury tax on the cap remains the biggest hurdle in talks tonight.

via twitter

[PacerRaptor]

via twitter
I wonder if that means that the BRI has been dealt with

[Clutch]

Let's face it.
There won't be any games played before January.
I would be lucky if we even have a season.

I was an optimist from the beginning but right now I don't have any positive thoughts about this labor situation.

[Patrick Chewing]

Going at it this late, they must have made some sort of deal. I know if I keep getting something rejected over and over, I'm outta there in much less time.

[NuggetsFan]

Let's face it.
There won't be any games played before January.
I would be lucky if we even have a season.

I was an optimist from the beginning but right now I don't have any positive thoughts about this labor situation.

Pretty much how I feel. Feel sorry for the people with such high hopes still. Kudo's if your right but being a negative nancy helps the sting :lol

[Sarcastic]

It's like being in the waiting room with the wife giving birth.

[SpecialQue]

"The players and owners have reached a decision..."

*gasp*

"To resume talks on Thursday."

jk

[Scoooter]

It's like being in the waiting room with the wife giving birth.
I did that shit from home over skype. *****.

[SourGrapes]

I did that shit from home over skype. *****.

hahaha

[PacerRaptor]

Probably not going to happen today:

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/7118714/nba-players-owners-meet-15-plus-hours-mediator

[Mr Know It All]

Probably not going to happen today:

http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story/_/id/7118714/nba-players-owners-meet-15-plus-hours-mediator

No new info here buddy. We already know the talks have been going long. No indication of progress or not from tonight in this article.

[PacerRaptor]

No new info here buddy. We already know the talks have been going long. No indication of progress or not from tonight in this article.
check out the video

[AMISTILLILL]

check out the video

So, Broussard is the only source we're going on here... :rolleyes:

[Mr Know It All]

check out the video

Ya this video was posted hours ago today man I think I saw it this afternoon or at least early this evening, before it became clear how long these talks had gone on for.

[SunsCaptain]

They are still meeting right?

This can only be good news...

At this point it would be impossible to be talking for so long and accomplish nothing.

:pimp:

[King24]

Agreement 90% done. :eek:

[ukfan22]

Agreement 90% done. :eek:

no source:rolleyes:

[SunsCaptain]

no source:rolleyes:

Agreement 91% done.

[dbugz]

They are still at the meeting? wtf :banghead:

I would fckn kill Stern and Hunter if they'll just announce that they'll just continue this on Thursday! :banghead:

[SunsCaptain]

They are still at the meeting? wtf :banghead:

I would fckn kill Stern and Hunter if they'll just announce that they'll just continue this on Thursday! :banghead:

Still meeting is a great sign though!!!!

But yeah if they come out of the meeting and say nothing...

:mad:

And just say we will be back....

:mad: :mad:

[bigboi_baller]

Meeting just ended I'm guessing?


"Mark Cuban issues a "no comment" as he leaves the meeting. And this is not a false alarm"

https://twitter.com/#!/FisolaNYDN/status/126537770809294849

[chazzy]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
Mediation over for the night/morning. Setting up times to continue later today, source says.

http://twitter.com/#!/KBergCBS/status/126541451155877889

[AMISTILLILL]

No press conference from either side?

[Meticode]

No press conference from either side?
All the reporters are probably asleep.

[ukfan22]

The mediator asked both sides to not talk to the media.

[dbugz]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


Thanks for wasting my time nba.

[DuMa]

this mediator is already doing good stuff.

[Clutch]

Guys,did you stay awake just because of the labor meeting ?

I have just realized it's really late in the USA.

It's 9 AM in my country :lol

[DuMa]

nbatv reporting at damn near 3AM EST lol.... david aldridge getting sleepy eyed during his peice haha

[All Net]

Little progress after 16 hours?

Depressing.:(

[SourGrapes]

Little progress after 16 hours?

Depressing.:(

where did you hear this?

[AMISTILLILL]

where did you hear this?

"The league and players union emerged from their longest labor meeting of the 111-day lockout

[All Net]

where did you hear this?
From yahoo

My question is what exactly can George Cohen push forward here? What role can he have?

[Hondo]

My question is what exactly can George Cohen push forward here? What role can he have?

http://media.mlive.com/pistons_impact/photo/george-cohenjpg-b77becbe056d8de8.jpg

^This man eats babies with beards for breakfast. He goes by the name grandfather time and he invented belly button lint. He remembers when dinosaurs had to walk 5 miles in the ice to get to school ,and he remembers having a sabre-tooth tiger as a pet, beating him with twigs when he was disobedient. He also invented alliteration.

He's your father, he's your father's father. If there is a woman to impregnate, George will impregnate them. Whatever great thing you think you've done, George actually did it while you were sleeping and brainwashed you into thinking you did it, he's that much of a good guy.

Basically, George Cohen is the GOAT of all humans. He'll strike you down for this All Net.

[senelcoolidge]

At least both sides are talking and going through all issues. They probably sorted out the small items, but need to agree on the big issues that are separating the sides. They're meeting Wednesday which is a positive.

[All Net]

http://media.mlive.com/pistons_impact/photo/george-cohenjpg-b77becbe056d8de8.jpg

^This man eats babies with beards for breakfast. He goes by the name grandfather time and he invented belly button lint. He remembers when dinosaurs had to walk 5 miles in the ice to get to school ,and he remembers having a sabre-tooth tiger as a pet, beating him with twigs when he was disobedient. He also invented alliteration.

He's your father, he's your father's father. If there is a woman to impregnate, George will impregnate them. Whatever great thing you think you've done, George actually did it while you were sleeping and brainwashed you into thinking you did it, he's that much of a good guy.

Basically, George Cohen is the GOAT of all humans. He'll strike you down for this
All Net.:lol Let's put it to the test then....

[RazorBaLade]

http://media.mlive.com/pistons_impact/photo/george-cohenjpg-b77becbe056d8de8.jpg

^This man eats babies with beards for breakfast. He goes by the name grandfather time and he invented belly button lint. He remembers when dinosaurs had to walk 5 miles in the ice to get to school ,and he remembers having a sabre-tooth tiger as a pet, beating him with twigs when he was disobedient. He also invented alliteration.

He's your father, he's your father's father. If there is a woman to impregnate, George will impregnate them. Whatever great thing you think you've done, George actually did it while you were sleeping and brainwashed you into thinking you did it, he's that much of a good guy.

Basically, George Cohen is the GOAT of all humans. He'll strike you down for this All Net.

i lost it here.. amazing

[DMAVS41]

It seems like its going to take one side to pretty much "fold" to get this done....I can't imagine that side is going to be the owners. So its really up to the players to either take the best deal they can get or lose more games or potentially the season.

We don't know enough of the exact details, but I just don't see any legit business reason for the owners to weaken their stance at all. They have more time to recoup any losses, they have more power and leverage, and for a good amount of teams...missing games actually helps their bottom line.

We can debate who is right or wrong, but really that doesn't matter. The owners have the power and money to get what they want...and I don't see them budging much at all. And really it would be bad business for them to at this point.

[insidehoops]

Here are the "results" of the meeting, which lasted over 16 hours:

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=8465

[Sarcastic]

It seems like its going to take one side to pretty much "fold" to get this done....I can't imagine that side is going to be the owners. So its really up to the players to either take the best deal they can get or lose more games or potentially the season.

We don't know enough of the exact details, but I just don't see any legit business reason for the owners to weaken their stance at all. They have more time to recoup any losses, they have more power and leverage, and for a good amount of teams...missing games actually helps their bottom line.

We can debate who is right or wrong, but really that doesn't matter. The owners have the power and money to get what they want...and I don't see them budging much at all. And really it would be bad business for them to at this point.


Ummm, maybe so they don't weaken their product too much? You act as if they have no stake at all in these teams. You think Dolan is going to be happy if his Knicks can't sell out MSG? You think Buss is going to be happy if superstars aren't coming to watch the Lakers play?

[All Net]

Day 2

6 hours and counting.....

[dbugz]

Here we go again :facepalm

[Clutch]

I expect another "no progress" report.

[All Net]

I expect another "no progress" report.
I will use this mind set till proven otherwise

[824]

i lost it here.. amazing

It's like the christian God, he's 3 entities in the father the son and the holy ghost, but he's also 1 entity. GET IT?

[Hondo]

It's like the christian God, he's 3 entities in the father the son and the holy ghost, but he's also 1 entity. GET IT?

God is also Satan. Vengeful.

[Heavincent]

lol NBA.

Every meeting so far has ended with a "little to no progress made" report. Just pathetic. Both the players and owners should be ashamed of themselves.

[PacerRaptor]

keep in mind that Cohen took 16 days with the NFL (IIRC) to reach a deal. The NBA isnt going to reach a deal overnight, or over two days. Its going to take some time to reach a compromise.

As long as someone like Cohen is involved, I can see a positive outcome in due time...be patient

[pauk]

http://www.zepoze.com/z/smiley-suicide-07.jpg

[T-Time3]

I'm starting to doubt they discuss about deal agreement at the meeting.
Seriously,it's been 3 months and counting and all they come up is "little to no progress made" ?
This is absolutely ridiculous
does anybody know what are they actually talking about at the meeting ?
who knows if they were having nachos all day long and watch youtube's viral videos while the press making up stories.

[All Net]

Seems they are closer than they were before...whatever that is.

[Clutch]

Seems they are closer than they were before...whatever that is.
Unless they made some significant progress (which I doubt) they are still miles apart.

[entropy35]

can anybody confirm only the first 2 weeks have been cancelled so far?

Also what is the date before more games are cancelled?

thanks.

[Clutch]

can anybody confirm only the first 2 weeks have been cancelled so far?

Also what is the date before more games are cancelled?

thanks.
Yeah,only the first 2 weeks were cancelled.

We don't know,but soon.