Torres returns to top form-world is f*cked

[Nick Young]

Fernando Torres has returned to elite form, recently showing an emphatic double against Belgian champions Gent.

With the elite Torres leading the line, Merieles, Cech, David Luiz, JT, Lamps, Cole, Ramires, Daniel Swagger aka Sturridge and Mata it is safe to say we have the strongest and most talented first 11 in the premier league.

AND ESSIEN OUR BEST PLAYER ISN'T EVEN PLAYING BECAUSE INJURY.

Safe to say that this is going to be a blue year and European glory finally is upon us.
http://i.thisislondon.co.uk/i/pix/gen/2011/05/andre-villas-boas-12200.jpg

[NauruDude]

Scores against GENK.

World goes mad.

Genk is a Belgian team not that good.
Wait till Chelsea play Barca or Real Madrid. Theyre better than Genk I've heard.

[Nick Young]

Scores against GENK.

World goes mad.

Genk is a Belgian team not that good.
Wait till Chelsea play Barca or Real Madrid. Theyre better than Genk I've heard.
Genk is THE CHAMPIONS OF BELGIUM

he also scored against Manchester United and could have nearly had 3 if not for the biggest fluke miss ever and a few more bad misses he had before reaching his top form. The following games he has proceeded to score a goal a game though for us.

Wait till Chelsea plays manchester united, their defense is better than barca or reals I heard-O WAIT Torres already tore that defense apart, if only for his poor finishing at the time he would have had 3 easy goals

[NauruDude]

Genk is THE CHAMPIONS OF BELGIUM

he also scored against Manchester United and could have nearly had 3 if not for the biggest fluke miss ever and a few more bad misses he had before reaching his top form. The following games he has proceeded to score a goal a game though for us.

Wait till Chelsea plays manchester united, their defense is better than barca or reals I heard-O WAIT Torres already tore that defense apart, if only for his poor finishing at the time he would have had 3 easy goals

When did Torres tear Real apart? Maybe in his Atletico days but not recently.

[Nick Young]

When did Torres tear Real apart? Maybe in his Atletico days but not recently.
he did it to manchester united and in his la liga days used to kill barca and real on the regular basis.

[Skywalker]

Will be fun to see him in form again, I hope they make the final and lose to BARCA again lmao. Runner up is a good result for any team besides Barca.

[Nick Young]

Will be fun to see him in form again, I hope they make the final and lose to BARCA again lmao. Runner up is a good result for any team besides Barca.
We beat barca in 2009 clearly, unless you expect Lampard would have missed all 5 penalties we earned.

We didn't lose to barca, first of all they tied us, and second of all UEFA and the refs defeated us, not measly Barcelona, who couldn't do jack shit against us over 180 minutes and we and Rubin Kazan are still the only teams they're afraid of.

Seriously, Messi was shut down and looked like nobody, by both Bosingwa and Cole, Iniesta and Xavi could do nothing against our midfield except roll harmless through balls to Alex's feet or Petr Cech's arms. Their bullshit boring possession game has no effect against our organization and their defense can only cope with our direct counter attacks by cheating and throwing our players on the ground in fouls disgraceful to the game.

mata is another famous Barca killer, probably why we bought him.

If Pique is allowed to defend with his hands again, and Dani Alves is allowed to simply throw players on the ground in the penalty box and go unpunished we might be in trouble, otherwise we should have Barca's number easily.

[ukballer]

:oldlol:

[chains5000]

he did it to manchester united and in his la liga days used to kill barca and real on the regular basis.
:rolleyes:

[chains5000]

We beat barca in 2009 clearly, unless you expect Lampard would have missed all 5 penalties we earned.

We didn't lose to barca, first of all they tied us, and second of all UEFA and the refs defeated us, not measly Barcelona, who couldn't do jack shit against us over 180 minutes and we and Rubin Kazan are still the only teams they're afraid of.

Seriously, Messi was shut down and looked like nobody, by both Bosingwa and Cole, Iniesta and Xavi could do nothing against our midfield except roll harmless through balls to Alex's feet or Petr Cech's arms. Their bullshit boring possession game has no effect against our organization and their defense can only cope with our direct counter attacks by cheating and throwing our players on the ground in fouls disgraceful to the game.

mata is another famous Barca killer, probably why we bought him.

If Pique is allowed to defend with his hands again, and Dani Alves is allowed to simply throw players on the ground in the penalty box and go unpunished we might be in trouble, otherwise we should have Barca's number easily.
Still butt hurt, I see

[LilBTheBasedGod]

shit thread bruh surry

[NoName22]

We beat barca in 2009 clearly, unless you expect Lampard would have missed all 5 penalties we earned.

We didn't lose to barca, first of all they tied us, and second of all UEFA and the refs defeated us, not measly Barcelona, who couldn't do jack shit against us over 180 minutes and we and Rubin Kazan are still the only teams they're afraid of.

Seriously, Messi was shut down and looked like nobody, by both Bosingwa and Cole, Iniesta and Xavi could do nothing against our midfield except roll harmless through balls to Alex's feet or Petr Cech's arms. Their bullshit boring possession game has no effect against our organization and their defense can only cope with our direct counter attacks by cheating and throwing our players on the ground in fouls disgraceful to the game.

mata is another famous Barca killer, probably why we bought him.

If Pique is allowed to defend with his hands again, and Dani Alves is allowed to simply throw players on the ground in the penalty box and go unpunished we might be in trouble, otherwise we should have Barca's number easily.

Breh, I was mad after that game & I don't even like Chelsea.

[blablabla]

One game sweetheart one game
cant wait to see chelski fail again

[alenleomessi]

meh

[bdreason]

I watched part of this game, and Chelsea was outclassing the other team in every aspect. I wouldn't put too much into Torres scoring 2 goals when Chelsea posted 5 goals, and probably should have had more.

[bdreason]

As far as the Champions League goes, it seems like Barcelona is clearly the favorite, while everyone else is playing for 2nd place... or perhaps a miracle in the finale.

[donald_trump]

bayern look like the team to beat at the moment for me. i think bayern and real are the favorites from what i've seen. barcelona has been very lackluster. they've got one of the easiest groups and have been meh. same goes for manchester united.

arsenal and chelsea have been surprisingly good despite their horrid starts to the year.

[alenleomessi]

bayern look like the team to beat at the moment for me. i think bayern and real are the favorites from what i've seen. barcelona has been very lackluster. they've got one of the easiest groups and have been meh. same goes for manchester united.

arsenal and chelsea have been surprisingly good despite their horrid starts to the year.
Barca are still the clear favourites. They DOMINATE the game. Bayern game is based on counter attacks

[Done_And_Done]

The words having Barcas number and easily should simply never go hand in hand my friend. You strike up decent points about their previous controversial Champions League meeting but to insist that Chelsea has the tactical one up over one of the greatest rosters ever assembled is a complete fallacy. Let's get this straight, NOBODY has Barcas number.

Barcelona > Your favorite team

[BEAST Griffin]

Barca are still the clear favourites. They DOMINATE the game. Bayern game is based on counter attacks.

Get a clue.

[IlliniFan]

Anyone who doesn't think Bayern is a legit contender this year hasn't been watching.

[Nick Young]

One game sweetheart one game
cant wait to see chelski fail again
lol idiot Torres has scored in like 4 straight games he has played son.

4 games sweetheart, 4 games. GTFO sport.
Can't wait to see chelsea take revenge against Barcelona and have Essien break Iniesta and Xavi's cheating scummy ankles.

[Nick Young]

bayern look like the team to beat at the moment for me. i think bayern and real are the favorites from what i've seen. barcelona has been very lackluster. they've got one of the easiest groups and have been meh. same goes for manchester united.

arsenal and chelsea have been surprisingly good despite their horrid starts to the year.
wtf are you on about, we took a month to adapt to the new system and all the new players brought in who didn't get to practice with the squad in training camp and now things are clicking in to place and Villas-Boas philosophy is taking shape. It is hardly horrid considering we are one point behind Wankchester United who everyone crowned gauranteed champions of the universe after their first 3 games against shitty opponents.

[Nick Young]

The words having Barcas number and easily should simply never go hand in hand my friend. You strike up decent points about their previous controversial Champions League meeting but to insist that Chelsea has the tactical one up over one of the greatest rosters ever assembled is a complete fallacy. Let's get this straight, NOBODY has Barcas number.

Barcelona > Your favorite team
Lol what is Chelsea's roster, it destroyed and dominated "the greatest roster ever assembled" over both legs, shutting those scrubs down at Camp Nou and then absolutely dismantling them at the bridge.

If Barca weren't allowed to defend with their hands in the box, throw players on the floor blatantly, and drag players down by their shirts and arms then we would have won that tie by 3+goals.

Michael Essien scored the goal of the year and Chelsea put in a masterclass of counter attack direct and beautiful football and it is forever tarnished by UEFA and Michael Platini's hatred of the blues and blatantly fixing the game against them.


Messi was shut down completely, as were Xavi and Messi. No team has ever thouroughly dominated Scrubcelona like we have ever since then.

Barca still has fear in their hearts when they think of chelsea blue. Hopefully they are prepared for revenge because we will destroy them when we eventually meet up this year, hopefully sooner than later but in the final it would be alright to serve them the revenge they deserve infront of a billion person audience

[alenleomessi]

lol idiot Torres has scored in like 4 straight games he has played son.

4 games sweetheart, 4 games. GTFO sport.
Can't wait to see chelsea take revenge against Barcelona and have Essien break Iniesta and Xavi's cheating scummy ankles.
thats what chelski ******s do

[Nick Young]

thats what chelski ******s do
It will serve them karma from the 2009 final the entire world clearly knows they didn't deserve to be in.

Even the Barca players themselves admitted they were lucky to be helped so much by the refs and kept to their bullshit mantra of "the true victory of this tie was football" despite the fact that Chelsea played a much more beautiful direct and attacking game creating all the chances in the tie and Barca just played boring possession, had no ideas, and created 0 chances.

[alenleomessi]

Get a clue.
what? thats not true?
i didnt mean counter attack against augsburg, koln, mainz or some other awful german team, but they play like that every time they face a tough opponent
pretty much the style germany played last year especially against england and argentina

dont get me wrong bayern are one of the favorites, imo 4th after barca, real and united...chelsea, milan and city are outside looking

[Nick Young]

what? thats not true?
i didnt mean counter attack against augsburg, koln, mainz or some other awful german team, but they play like that every time they face a tough opponent
pretty much the style germany played last year especially against england and argentina

dont get me wrong bayern are one of the favorites, imo 4th after barca, real and united...chelsea, milan and city are outside looking
:facepalm
go home kid

[LJJ]

what? thats not true?
i didnt mean counter attack against augsburg, koln, mainz or some other awful german team, but they play like that every time they face a tough opponent
pretty much the style germany played last year especially against england and argentina

dont get me wrong bayern are one of the favorites, imo 4th after barca, real and united...chelsea, milan and city are outside looking

Yes it's not true. You must be insane, or you haven't seen any of their matches in the past 3 seasons.

They are not as extremely ball dominant like Barca, but they definitely play more possession based than counter attacking. They've commanded possession in all of their CL games so far.




On topic comment:

2 goals in a gimme game against below average competition does sound exactly like prime Torres. He does well in the gimmes, but shoots below par in the important games.

[Nick Young]

Yes it's not true. You must be insane, or you haven't seen any of their matches in the past 3 seasons.

They are not as extremely ball dominant like Barca, but they definitely play more possession based than counter attacking. They've commanded possession in all of their CL games so far.




On topic comment:

2 goals in a gimme game against below average competition does sound exactly like prime Torres. He does well in the gimmes, but shoots below par in the important games.
Agreed, he was useless in the Euro 2008 final.

Aleaonmessi just claimed that Germany played counterattack vs England and Agrentina in the 2010 world cup. Is that what you honestly thought you were watching bozo? It was pure German domination, not lucky counterattacks you clown.

[blablabla]

Yes it's not true. You must be insane, or you haven't seen any of their matches in the past 3 seasons.

They are not as extremely ball dominant like Barca, but they definitely play more possession based than counter attacking. They've commanded possession in all of their CL games so far.




On topic comment:

2 goals in a gimme game against below average competition does sound exactly like prime Torres. He does well in the gimmes, but shoots below par in the important games.
they play a different system under this under heynckes
under van gaal they played a possession game similar to barcelona
heynckes doesn't play a counter attacking game but all the players now need to run back to help on defense

[kingmob]

Scoring against Gent is not an accomplishment. Bottom beams of APL would beat them.

With that said, Torres is a world class player, and his struggles were more psychological than anything after prolonged periods of not playing after injuries. He is starting to acquire mental stability again and gain confidence, which means bad things for opposing defenders. Hopefully, injuries avoid him, as he is a true talent that I really like watching play.

[LJJ]

they play a different system under this under heynckes
under van gaal they played a possession game similar to barcelona
heynckes doesn't play a counter attacking game but all the players now need to run back to help on defense

Yeah. It's a bit more balanced, but it's still pretty far from counter attacking.

[BEAST Griffin]

Agreed, he was useless in the Euro 2008 final.

Aleaonmessi just claimed that Germany played counterattack vs England and Agrentina in the 2010 world cup. Is that what you honestly thought you were watching bozo? It was pure German domination, not lucky counterattacks you clown.

It's too bad that that Thomas Muller had that bullshit suspension against Spain after Lionel Messi tried to handle the ball and it coincidentally hit Thomas Muller's hip and arm after. Dude was ON FIRE at the World Cup. I feel that affected the young and inexperienced German team a lot.

And like almost half of Germany's players had possible yellow card suspensions for the final so I feel like they couldn't play like themselves against Spain. Shit was frustrating to watch.

With all the skill this young German team has I hope they can get back the mental attitude of some of the older German teams. Then it's good night and a new era of German dominance in international football.

[sodap]

torres is a piece of trash. negredo, soldado, llorente, villa, all are better tan this overrated *****

[Nick Young]

It's too bad that that Thomas Muller had that bullshit suspension against Spain after Lionel Messi tried to handle the ball and it coincidentally hit Thomas Muller's hip and arm after. Dude was ON FIRE at the World Cup. I feel that affected the young and inexperienced German team a lot.

And like almost half of Germany's players had possible yellow card suspensions for the final so I feel like they couldn't play like themselves against Spain. Shit was frustrating to watch.

With all the skill this young German team has I hope they can get back the mental attitude of some of the older German teams. Then it's good night and a new era of German dominance in international football.
Brazil is weak, Argentina is in a dark age generation of talent (their midfield is shit and face reality, Messi is not the same player without Xavi and Iniesta making all those chances for him) and their three best players Aguero, Tevez and Messi all play the same position and struggle on the field when playing together, Italy is mediocre and Serie A is dying, Xavi is getting old, right now Germany with Ozil, Gotze, Schweinsteiger, Nuer, Muller, Kroos, Khedira and Gomez has the greatest generation of players in the world, no reason they shouldn't be able to win many world and european cups, they have been my favorite national team to watch since 2010 BY FAR they play fearless and beautiful. I agree with Muller they would have beaten Spain that kid is amazing and so underrated.

[sodap]

I dont think they were ready to beat us in 2010 but I do agree that germany have the brightest immediate future. But in south africa we had the final product and went all the way because of that. Germans are still in development, this summer we'll see what they are about.

Anyway in Spain we have a good next generation, but no doubt the current one is on decline

[EnoughSaid]

Real is gonna **** shit up this year. GOOOOOOO. :rockon:

[alenleomessi]

Real is gonna **** shit up this year. GOOOOOOO. :rockon:
im constantly hearing this for 7 years now

[alenleomessi]

Brazil is weak, Argentina is in a dark age generation of talent (their midfield is shit and face reality, Messi is not the same player without Xavi and Iniesta making all those chances for him) and their three best players Aguero, Tevez and Messi all play the same position and struggle on the field when playing together, Italy is mediocre and Serie A is dying, Xavi is getting old, right now Germany with Ozil, Gotze, Schweinsteiger, Nuer, Muller, Kroos, Khedira and Gomez has the greatest generation of players in the world, no reason they shouldn't be able to win many world and european cups, they have been my favorite national team to watch since 2010 BY FAR they play fearless and beautiful. I agree with Muller they would have beaten Spain that kid is amazing and so underrated.
Lets get one thing clear

Barca = #1
Spain = #1


Xavi is getting old, yeah right like that means something to his game, he doesnt have any injury concerns and doesnt really need to run fast or defend or anything like that... just make the damn pass... and spain has great midfielders alonso, iniesta, silva, and some other young prospects like canales and muniain .... so yeah... good luck to germany

[chains5000]

Brazil is weak, Argentina is in a dark age generation of talent (their midfield is shit and face reality, Messi is not the same player without Xavi and Iniesta making all those chances for him) and their three best players Aguero, Tevez and Messi all play the same position and struggle on the field when playing together, Italy is mediocre and Serie A is dying, Xavi is getting old, right now Germany with Ozil, Gotze, Schweinsteiger, Nuer, Muller, Kroos, Khedira and Gomez has the greatest generation of players in the world, no reason they shouldn't be able to win many world and european cups, they have been my favorite national team to watch since 2010 BY FAR they play fearless and beautiful. I agree with Muller they would have beaten Spain that kid is amazing and so underrated.
Please, remove this one from the list.

[BEAST Griffin]

Nobody expected Germany to do great either in 2010 with so many injured players before the World Cup. But it did give a lot of young and inexperienced players the chance to shine.

Spain is still a nobody compared to Germany in international football. They played a great Euro 2008 and weaseled themselves to a 2010 world cup victory with theatrics and a bunch of dodgy decisions their way throughout the tournament.

Germany is a tournament team. They can have sub par teams like from 2000-2008 and still make semi finals and finals. Now with all the talent the expectation can only be the title.

[Ol Dirty Bastard]

I'm a Chelsea fan and Torres supporter but OP needs to calm the F down.

too many ******, actin' like HOES

[DFish]

Spain is still a nobody in international football.

http://i.imgur.com/NnPHQl.jpg

[SilkyJohnson]

The only European glory Chelsea will achieve this season (and for the foreseeable future) is visiting gay bar toilets on every European away day and proceeding to suck dick.

[Lebowsky]

It's too bad that that Thomas Muller had that bullshit suspension against Spain after Lionel Messi tried to handle the ball and it coincidentally hit Thomas Muller's hip and arm after. Dude was ON FIRE at the World Cup. I feel that affected the young and inexperienced German team a lot.

And like almost half of Germany's players had possible yellow card suspensions for the final so I feel like they couldn't play like themselves against Spain. Shit was frustrating to watch.

With all the skill this young German team has I hope they can get back the mental attitude of some of the older German teams. Then it's good night and a new era of German dominance in international football.
Lol, wishful thinking. Spain will dominate international football for years to come.

[BEAST Griffin]

Lol, wishful thinking. Spain will dominate international football for years to come.

So far they haven't "dominated" anything. They played a great Euro 2008 and then they weaseled themselves to a World Cup.

And tournaments aren't played on paper. Even if Spain is stacked with talented players, that doesn't mean they'll "dominate for years to come".

If they do win more tournaments in the years to come, I hope they do so in a nice fashion. Spain used to be my back up team. I always hoped they do well. I didn't even mind when they beat Germany in 2008. But I just can't stand the Barcelona and Spain football culture that has developed in recent years.

[The_Yearning]

Euro 2012 is pretty much a lock for Spain.

[LJJ]

So far they haven't "dominated" anything. They played a great Euro 2008 and then they weaseled themselves to a World Cup.

And tournaments aren't played on paper. Even if Spain is stacked with talented players, that doesn't mean they'll "dominate for years to come".

If they do win more tournaments in the years to come, I hope they do so in a nice fashion. Spain used to be my back up team. I always hoped they do well. I didn't even mind when they beat Germany in 2008. But I just can't stand the Barcelona and Spain football culture that has developed in recent years.

Maybe during the WC they only scored four goals in the last four matches, but they were the better team in each match. By a considerable every time.

[sodap]

So far they haven't "dominated" anything. They played a great Euro 2008 and then they weaseled themselves to a World Cup.

And tournaments aren't played on paper. Even if Spain is stacked with talented players, that doesn't mean they'll "dominate for years to come".

If they do win more tournaments in the years to come, I hope they do so in a nice fashion. Spain used to be my back up team. I always hoped they do well. I didn't even mind when they beat Germany in 2008. But I just can't stand the Barcelona and Spain football culture that has developed in recent years.


you know what? I gotta agree with you. there's this amount of mannerism and theatrics that I just hate. but I can look away while my nation wins some silverware.

anyway, spain could play some ****ing brilliant football if Del Bosque showed a little bit more of love for silva. that guy is the one who can bring the fireworks to an already effective, technical and overall very solid side. But he'd rather playing xabi alonso AND busquets, who are terrific players, dont get me wrong, also WC2010 proved him right.

for 2012 I'd bet my money on either germany or holland, not spain. I think no one has ever won euro-world cup-euro. that would be domination as never seen before, and I just dont see it happening. plus the two I mentioned are awesome, stacked, young, hungry teams.

[Nick Young]

Euro 2012 is pretty much a lock for Spain.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

not really

not at all in fact.

[blablabla]

Euro 2012 is pretty much a lock for Spain.
:roll:

[chains5000]

Euro 2012 is pretty much a lock for Spain.
You can't talk about any team being a lock to win a competition as hard as this, but Spain should be considered the leading candidate.

[sodap]

You can't talk about any team being a lock to win a competition as hard as this, but Spain should be considered the leading candidate.

if we look at the rosters and performances of every team, of course. but I think our guys arent that hungry anymore, and this will give other teams the edge. for me the main candidate is germany (they always are)

[Nick Young]

if we look at the rosters and performances of every team, of course. but I think our guys arent that hungry anymore, and this will give other teams the edge. for me the main candidate is germany (they always are)
Germany in 2010 looked unbeatable (until they lost Muller and played spain)

now all their youngsters are more experienced PLUS they have Gotze who is possibly better than even Ozil and has potential IMO to become the best player in the world.

[alenleomessi]

Germany in 2010 looked unbeatable (until they lost Muller and played spain)

now all their youngsters are more experienced PLUS they have Gotze who is possibly better than even Ozil and has potential IMO to become the best player in the world.
lets not get ahead of ourselves

[blablabla]

lets not get ahead of ourselves
he has imo he better than that fakkit neymar

[Nick Young]

he has imo he better than that fakkit neymar
yeh f*ck Neymar he's just another false messiah, I been watching him and he isn't aactually the future chelsea god, what a mistake I made propping him up all year, the reason Brazil sucks now is because the attack is built around him and that other soft fakkit Ganso, these two butt buddies will never win anything, he is actually just a softer version of Robinho who makes dumber decisions

[blablabla]

yeh f*ck Neymar he's just another false messiah, I been watching him and he isn't aactually the future chelsea god, he is actually just a softer version of Robinho who makes dumber decisions
so true

[Nick Young]

GOddamn it Gotze is just 19! 2 years younger than me! WTF was I doing when I was 19! Seriously he's 19 and from what i've seen just as good as Ozil if not better. Can they play on the field together? I guess that means Kroos will be stuck on Germany's bench. What a stacked team. Neur, Muller, Gotze, Gomez, Ozil, Schweinsteiger, Marin, this might be one of the best generations of German football ever.

[alenleomessi]

yeh f*ck Neymar he's just another false messiah, I been watching him and he isn't aactually the future chelsea god, what a mistake I made propping him up all year, the reason Brazil sucks now is because the attack is built around him and that other soft fakkit Ganso, these two butt buddies will never win anything, he is actually just a softer version of Robinho who makes dumber decisions
fifa manager 2012 out yet?

[Nick Young]

fifa manager 2012 out yet?
that's not even a game that I know of idiot, and I don't waste time playing computer or video games so wouldn't know, sport.

[The_Yearning]

Gotze? He's not even better than Hazard.

[BEAST Griffin]

Gotze? He's not even better than Hazard.

Nah. Mario Gotze is better.

[chains5000]

Neymar is a future bust, aka Robinho II

[Nick Young]

Gotze? He's not even better than Hazard.
XD wtf is this bullshit :roll: :roll: :roll:

German Football Association Chairman has even been quoted calling Gotze one of the greatest talents to ever come through their ranks.

Hazard is not amazing, he does nothing internationally with belgium, if he was as good as some people say he would not still be playing in the shitty French league.

[Lebowsky]

fifa manager 2012 out yet?
It's called Football Manager, and I bet he's had it on preorder for months. He has never seen half the player he talks about.

[Nick Young]

It's called Football Manager, and I bet he's had it on preorder for months. He has never seen half the player he talks about.
I haven't played football manager in 3 years, I wish I could but my powerbook is 5 years old and too slow to run the new editions.

Don't project yourself on to me, just because you and aleonelmessi haven't watched alot of Mario Gotze playing doesn't mean I haven't. I actually watch more Bundesliga than premier league because for me it is the most exciting league and style of football in the world, Italian technique mixed with English directness.

It's true I haven't seen Eden Hazard play so much except when he is in the CL, but he doesn't stand out to me ever as a player who will do anything, and I can tell this by the fact that I only ever hear about him doing well in the french league but every time I watch belgium play or Lille in the CL he does not stand out at all.

He is not on the level of Mario Gotze who IMO is a genius.

[alenleomessi]

I haven't played football manager in 3 years, I wish I could but my powerbook is 5 years old and too slow to run the new editions.

Don't project yourself on to me, just because you and aleonelmessi haven't watched alot of Mario Gotze playing doesn't mean I haven't. I actually watch more Bundesliga than premier league because for me it is the most exciting league and style of football in the world, Italian technique mixed with English directness.

It's true I haven't seen Eden Hazard play so much except when he is in the CL, but he doesn't stand out to me ever as a player who will do anything, and I can tell this by the fact that I only ever hear about him doing well in the french league but every time I watch belgium play or Lille in the CL he does not stand out at all.

He is not on the level of Mario Gotze who IMO is a genius.
hehe i was the first to even mention gotze in this forum, dont play smart on me, u even said modric is better than gotze and now u say gotze is better than ozil and has the potential to be the best :rolleyes:

[Nick Young]

hehe i was the first to even mention gotze in this forum, dont play smart on me, u even said modric is better than gotze and now u say gotze is better than ozil and has the potential to be the best :rolleyes:
First to mention Gotze? What does that mean? Do you think no one has ever heard of Mario Gotze or seen him play until you deemed him worthy to mention on a basketball message board?

Modric is better than Gotze right now IMO

Gotze might be better than Ozil now, and yep I truly believe he has potential to become the best player in the world and assuming things keep going the way they are for him maybe even potential to be an alltime-great.

[EnoughSaid]

Ozil >>>>> Gotze.

[donald_trump]

lol.... gotze isnt sniffing ozil.

some of the stuff you say holds point, and then you go way out of left field and make a stupid point.

[alenleomessi]

over/under 2.5 legs broken by barton ? :lol

[Lebowsky]

I haven't played football manager in 3 years, I wish I could but my powerbook is 5 years old and too slow to run the new editions.

Don't project yourself on to me, just because you and aleonelmessi haven't watched alot of Mario Gotze playing doesn't mean I haven't. I actually watch more Bundesliga than premier league because for me it is the most exciting league and style of football in the world, Italian technique mixed with English directness.

It's true I haven't seen Eden Hazard play so much except when he is in the CL, but he doesn't stand out to me ever as a player who will do anything, and I can tell this by the fact that I only ever hear about him doing well in the french league but every time I watch belgium play or Lille in the CL he does not stand out at all.

He is not on the level of Mario Gotze who IMO is a genius.

You aren't fooling anyone. I think by now some points are already established:

1. You have never seen half the players you talk about.
2. The other half, you have seen occasionally at best, and your knowledge is mainly based on Football Manager stats.
3. Your talent evaluation skills suck balls. I have a good memory and remember all the stupid shit you've said in football threads thoughout the years, going as far as to even stating Arshavin was better than Zidane (only because he had a some great games in the Euro 2010) and lots of other retarded claims.
4. You're a hopeless moron.

[DFish]

going as far as to even stating Arshavin was better than Zidane (only because he had a some great games in the Euro 2010) and lots of other retarded claims.

He didn't really say Arshavin is better than Zidane... did he?

Better than Pele too? :oldlol:

[Nick Young]

You aren't fooling anyone. I think by now some points are already established:

1. You have never seen half the players you talk about.
2. The other half, you have seen occasionally at best, and your knowledge is mainly based on Football Manager stats.
3. Your talent evaluation skills suck balls. I have a good memory and remember all the stupid shit you've said in football threads thoughout the years, going as far as to even stating Arshavin was better than Zidane (only because he had a some great games in the Euro 2010) and lots of other retarded claims.
4. You're a hopeless moron.
Yeh I said Arshavin was gonna be the next Zidane because I thought he was 20 when he raped holland, didn't know he was already like 28, I was wrong there.

But guess who I have been right about
David Luiz
Daniel Sturridge
Ramires
Ozil

Don't know why you keep saying I have never seen these players play, with the invention of the internet it is easy to watch any game you want FYI, sport.

[alenleomessi]

Yeh I said Arshavin was gonna be the next Zidane because I thought he was 20 when he raped holland, didn't know he was already like 28, I was wrong there.

But guess who I have been right about
David Luiz
Daniel Sturridge
Ramires
Ozil

Don't know why you keep saying I have never seen these players play, with the invention of the internet it is easy to watch any game you want FYI, sport.
:roll: :hammerhead: :banghead: :roll:

[Nick Young]

:roll: :hammerhead: :banghead: :roll:
You're the one who recently called Mario Gomez one of the worst strikers in the world, moron.

[alenleomessi]

You're the one who recently called Mario Gomez one of the worst strikers in the world, moron.
so?

[Nick Young]

so?
:roll: :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :banghead: :banghead: :roll:

[alenleomessi]

:roll: :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :banghead: :banghead: :roll:
arshavin > zidane... that means... arshavin= pele, maradona


http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/I-dont-want-to-live-on-this-planet-anymore-meme.jpg

[Mr Clutch Melo]

You aren't fooling anyone. I think by now some points are already established:

1. You have never seen half the players you talk about.
2. The other half, you have seen occasionally at best, and your knowledge is mainly based on Football Manager stats.
3. Your talent evaluation skills suck balls. I have a good memory and remember all the stupid shit you've said in football threads thoughout the years, going as far as to even stating Arshavin was better than Zidane (only because he had a some great games in the Euro 2010) and lots of other retarded claims.
4. You're a hopeless moron.

Please tell me this is not true. Wow...That is pathetic even for you Sergio.

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Can add that he just said Sturrigde is a better player than Nani.

[alenleomessi]

Can add that he just said Sturrigde is a better player than Nani.
+ gomez is better than ibra and gotze better than ozil

[AirTupac]

Oh man that's hilarious. :oldlol:

In other Bundesliga news, my ***** Ibisevic scored the game winner.

[donald_trump]

Can add that he just said Sturrigde is a better player than Nani.

young/valencia > nani. and sturridge is better too.

i dont know what the fascination is with nani. hes a midfielder with a bit of flash who will occasionally make a spectacular play. i was listening to some espn douches saying they would take him over ronaldo. :roll:

the guy is one of the most overrated footballers out at the moment.

[Nick Young]

Can add that he just said Sturrigde is a better player than Nani.
Sturridge-younger, faster, stronger, dives less, scores with his head and his feet, creates more goals and scores more goals than Nani

How exactly is Nani better than Sturridge? He is better at cheating out freekicks with dives and doing stepovers?

[Mr Clutch Melo]

First, Nani is faster than Sturrigde and he also has much better technical skills. Nani has played at a world-class level for 2.5 seasons now, what the hell has Sturrigde proven? 10 appearances for Bolton and 5-6 games for Chelsea? All against mediocre / weak opposition.

Nani has the last two seasons have been assist king and was among those who create the most chances for teammates (see OPTA-Stats if you do not believe me). Also owned the player you call "the world's best back," Ashley Cole. Sturrigde might score more goals because he is a striker. Nani has proven itself in all levels, master league, international for Portugal and in the premier league. Sturrigde is not even in England SQUAD.

Stop overrating him. 99 % of this board would pick both Balotelli and Nani over sturrigde.

[Nick Young]

First, Nani is faster than Sturrigde and he also has much better technical skills. Nani has played at a world-class level for 2.5 seasons now, what the hell has Sturrigde proven? 10 appearances for Bolton and 5-6 games for Chelsea? All against mediocre / weak opposition.

Nani has the last two seasons have been assist king and was among those who create the most chances for teammates (see OPTA-Stats if you do not believe me). Also owned the player you call "the world's best back," Ashley Cole. Sturrigde might score more goals because he is a striker. Nani has proven itself in all levels, master league, international for Portugal and in the premier league. Sturrigde is not even in England SQUAD.

Stop overrating him. 99 % of this board would pick both Balotelli and Nani over sturrigde.
Exactly, this is Nani's ONLY advantage over Sturridge right now.

Sturridge is a natural center forward playing out of position as a winger, THE SAME POSITION AS NANI, and despite playing in a position he's never played before he is still scoring at a much higher rate than Nani and assisting his teammates at a much higher rate than Nani. He is also tracking back and defending, something Nani hardly ever does and sucks when he tries.

It is much easier to make the Portugal squad as a winger considering they only really have Ronaldo, Simao who is a grandpa and Quaresma who sucks than it is to make the England squad as a striker. National teams are stupid to bring up in this argument, plus Nani is like 4 years older.




Nani is NOT more technically gifted than Sturridge, U21 coaches and teammates have called Sturridge one of the most gifted technical players they have ever seen and said they have seen him do things in training they couldn't even imagine. He is just young so hasn't put everything together on the field yet. But don't think because he doesn't do ten million stepovers like Nani that he isn't as talented. Instead of stepovers and tricks Sturridge just chooses to score goals.

And no, Sturridge is actually one of the most athletically gifted players his age in Europe right now, which is why Chelsea have been after him since he was 15. Nani does not have a pace advantage on Sturridge, not at all. Nani has never "owned" Ashley Cole, but sometimes he outplays him.

You say Sturridge has only played well for 15 games? Fair enough if we ignore everything he has done for U21s and his Chelsea games last season when given starting.

Ballotelli has much more first team experience with both Inter and Man City and still has done far less than Sturridge has and for Man City especially has probably only played well in 3-4 games in who knows how many?

[blablabla]

when is this world f*cking top form thing starting
next week ?

[Maga_1]

:roll: :roll:

[chains5000]

when is this world f*cking top form thing starting
next week ?
For Chelsea fans it's always about next SEASON

[craigthomasb]

Strong bump!

[Nick Young]

http://theshedender.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Torres-scores-first-Chelsea-goal-against-West-Ham.jpg

AND ESSIEN RETURNED LOOKING HIS BEST
Imagine a Essien and Ramires in midfield together:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[blablabla]

everybody has a good game from time to time even tortes

[IlliniFan]

:oldlol: You hate on him hard for a couple months, then he plays one or two good games and you're back on the bandwagon?

[Nick Young]

Can add that he just said Sturrigde is a better player than Nani.
LAWL only an idiot would want Nani "is he even on the field" Portugese loser over Sturridge at this point in time

[Chapallaz]

Genk are Belgiums champions? WOW! And you're the best lOoking dude at yor LAN party aren't you?

[alenleomessi]

He will NEVER return to top form while playing for Chelski. He will show flashes from time to time but thats it

[Nick Young]

He will NEVER return to top form while playing for Chelski. He will show flashes from time to time but thats it
can you see the future? GTFO

[Nick Young]

He will NEVER return to top form while playing for Chelski. He will show flashes from time to time but thats it

http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/empics/20120423/19/2429783173-23042012191423.jpg

http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17klye5in283sjpg/original.jpg

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/4/25/1335308437440/Chelseas-Fernando-Torres--008.jpg


http://www.rt.com/files/sport/football/barcelona-chelsea-champions-league-messi-torres-football-902/forward-uefa-football-barcelona.n.jpg
http://mit.zenfs.com/210/2012/01/messiiii.jpg





NANANANANANANANA TORRES TORRES

[alenleomessi]

So he returned to TOP form because he scored a goal one on one against the crappiest GK in the world?

[Nick Young]

So he returned to TOP form because he scored a goal one on one against the crappiest GK in the world?
And the crappiest defense in the world.

As a barca fan, how did you feel watching Torres run half the field, round your keeper and deliver a dagger into your back, after talking so much shit about him all year?:confusedshrug:

[alenleomessi]

And the crappiest defense in the world.

As a barca fan, how did you feel watching Torres run half the field, round your keeper and deliver a dagger into your back, after talking so much shit about him all year?:confusedshrug:
As a chelsea fan, how did you feel watching your hero, your legend, your captain Terry screwing you for second time?

[Nick Young]

As a chelsea fan, how did you feel watching your hero, your legend, your captain Terry screwing you for second time?
Screwed us? Who's in the finals? JT made a heroic sacrifice, by getting himself sent off, he knew it would inspire his teammates to even greater heights of greatness. He also knew it would make Barca play stupider and send more guys forward leaving them vulnerable to the counter. And sure enough, minutes later Ramires get It was a risk, but it paid off.

JT.
Captain.
Legend.
and now martyr
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

How does it feel not being able to beat the same team that can't beat the very team you were talking the most shit about all year?:lol :lol :lol

[sodap]

terry is the biggest disgrace I can remember in all of enligsh football, to be honest.

[Nick Young]

terry is the biggest disgrace I can remember in all of enligsh football, to be honest.
roy keane breaking players legs on purpose, premeditating it>JT

[knickballer]

As a chelsea fan, how did you feel watching your hero, your legend, your captain Terry screwing you for second time?

I think it's time for you to hop on the FK Makedonska bandwagon before it's too late. Hurry!

[Nick Young]

Romeu/Essien/Lampard midfield is still world class, with Mata behind the striker, Malouda can put in a shift, drogs, torres possibly with confidence now, all we need is cahill and luiz

[niko]

terry is the biggest disgrace I can remember in all of enligsh football, to be honest.
Really? Off that play? QFT

[Balla_Status]

solid bump...ill admit that

[Nick Young]

So he returned to TOP form because he scored a goal one on one against the crappiest GK in the world?
how quickly this ****** throws his own players under the bus:roll: :roll: :roll:

[MJ(Mean John)]

Romeu/Essien/Lampard midfield is still world class, with Mata behind the striker, Malouda can put in a shift, drogs, torres possibly with confidence now, all we need is cahill and luiz



DROGBA is a straight beast.

[Nick Young]

So he returned to TOP form because he scored a goal one on one against the crappiest GK in the world?
eat shit ***
http://theshedender.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Torres-scores-first-Chelsea-goal-against-West-Ham.jpg

[SilkyJohnson]

eat shit ***
http://theshedender.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Torres-scores-first-Chelsea-goal-against-West-Ham.jpg

Is that how deep you had to search the archives before the Barcelona & QPR games to find a picture of Torres celebrating in a Chelsea shirt? The ****ing Benayoun & Anelka era?

[Nick Young]

Is that how deep you had to search the archives before the Barcelona & QPR games to find a picture of Torres celebrating in a Chelsea shirt? The ****ing Benayoun & Anelka era?
We are still under the "Benayoun era", he's only on loan.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/10/19/article-2050612-0E7230DD00000578-672_634x393.jpg

And Anelka only left in January FOOL

[Chapallaz]

But be honest, this is a sarcastic topic, no?

[Nick Young]

no

[Nick Young]

Will be fun to see him in form again, I hope they make the final and lose to BARCA again lmao. Runner up is a good result for any team besides Barca.


Scores against GENK.

World goes mad.

Genk is a Belgian team not that good.
Wait till Chelsea play Barca or Real Madrid. Theyre better than Genk I've heard.

The words having Barcas number and easily should simply never go hand in hand my friend. You strike up decent points about their previous controversial Champions League meeting but to insist that Chelsea has the tactical one up over one of the greatest rosters ever assembled is a complete fallacy. Let's get this straight, NOBODY has Barcas number.

Barcelona > Your favorite team

The only European glory Chelsea will achieve this season (and for the foreseeable future) is visiting gay bar toilets on every European away day and proceeding to suck dick.

ahhh, I just love the sweet smell of vindication in the morning
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GsX5pizeGKk/TvVEPYwWvfI/AAAAAAAAAiI/NAO8Dk8_mb0/s1600/Apocalypse_Now_Smell_Like_Victory.jpg

[Chapallaz]

If not sarcasm, it's sheer stupidity.

[SilkyJohnson]

Originally Posted by SilkyJohnson
The only European glory Chelsea will achieve this season (and for the foreseeable future) is visiting gay bar toilets on every European away day and proceeding to suck dick.

I didn't write that. Is making up quotes a bannable offense?

:durantunimpressed:

[Nick Young]

I didn't write that. Is making up quotes a bannable offense?

:durantunimpressed:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6422965&postcount=45

:kobe: :kobe: :kobe: :kobe: :kobe:

[SilkyJohnson]

Oh yeah, oops!

:hammerhead:

You know, when I wrote that I thought it was incredibly witty, but in hindsight, it sucks about as much as Chelsea fans on European away days.