Chris Paul: The most overrated player

[Celtics4ever]

The guy was good 3-4 years ago, but that was his peak. He's been a washout player ever since. He was really good, but now he is the king of the most overrated player in the NBA. He had a good series against the Lakers because he played against 50 year old Fisher. Even TJ Ford would look like MJ against Fisher. All he can do now is flop, and fake injuries. The guy is a failure. I see him as more of a role player, he can't lead a team by himself to the glory land. He is not in the same class as Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Durant, Rose and Dirk. Overrated. How are people putting him in the top 5?

[DMAVS41]

I think you will be surprised how good he will be after he gets out of New Orleans and gets on a quality team.

[Celtics4ever]

I think you will be surprised how good he will be after he gets out of New Orleans and gets on a quality team.

His career is on the decline and it will continue. The problem is now he has competition at the PG position, where now there are athletic PGs that can shut down his game. Back in 06 he really had no competition at the PG level. He's overrated.

[DMAVS41]

His career is on the decline and it will continue. The problem is now he has competition at the PG position, where now there are athletic PGs that can shut down his game. Back in 06 he really had no competition at the PG level. He's overrated.

i don't think so at all. he's 26 and will have it so much easier playing on a contender. hopefully he finds his way to play with howard or on the knicks or something.

we'll see. my guess is that you put paul on a contender next year and he's the unanimous best pg in the game.

i don't see how he's on the decline. that is actually one of the things i'm most excited about in the next year or 2. i can't wait to see what paul and howard do on quality teams....hopefully they do it together. sucks watching a great player like paul suffer on shit teams.

[Jasper]

CP3 is a constant professional ... it is a fact he has lost some of his talents due to the injury , but there was a series of discussions last year about him on Turner and ESPN about how he adapted and has actually made him a better floor general.

You must remember he drives , whirls and exits out of the lane to create easy open shots for his teammates.
In other words his teammates don't even have to create.

Once he has better talent surounding him , his floor general skills will shine similar to John Stockton's distribution


However as a PG he rely's heavily on quickness and speed , because of his lack of size... I am sure when he gets older , his outside shoot , not always called upon , will become a deadly weapon against opponents.

My fav is D-Will , but ESPN has CP3 as top dog for now

[SunsCaptain]

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/new-orleans-hornets/players/chris-paul/profile/11/19/272

[Jasper]

http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/new-orleans-hornets/players/chris-paul/profile/11/19/272


nice :applause:

[D-Wade316]

:facepalm

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

He's very very good when healthy. Arguably the best PG in the game but people are overrating him because they rank him so highly based off of 1 series. It was very good, but it was 1 series.

[artificial]

His career is on the decline and it will continue. The problem is now he has competition at the PG position, where now there are athletic PGs that can shut down his game. Back in 06 he really had no competition at the PG level. He's overrated.
Putting aside the discussion of whether he is overrated or not for a second, I strongly disagree in that the lack of competition made him look good back then. He as ranked an unarguable top 5 player in the league, arguably top 3. And that had nothing to do with position. It's not as if the best PG gets automatically ranked higher than the best PF, etc.

And I'm guessing you are not even checking you facts, given that 06 wasn't even his peak year (so far). He peaked through the 08-09 season, where he finished 5th in MVP votes.

You could make a case that he has declined from there. Last season he played 80 games, yet he had a career low in points, and nearly in rebounds. There is a decline there. Although as many are arguing, it could have had something to do with the team. I don't know, I do think he is in a decline this last two years, but I also think he is still young and ambitious enough to play again at an elite level.

[yobore]

He may be held in too high regard for last year but he's overall underrated career-wise. His first four seasons were statistically better than any current player except for maybe Duncan but he didn't get much credit then because he was in New Orleans and wasn't part of the '03 draft class. Even before the injury when he was breaking all the advanced stats records for PG's by very significant margins people were comparing him more to Deron than Kobe/Lebron.

He's been suffering the effects of running into a camera and then the resulting knee surgery for the last two seasons respectively, but this season he led his team into the playoffs and finished the year looking like his old self. He was one of the best PGs and finished with the highest PER despite being at or near the bottom of the league in athleticism among PG's. He literally walked around the court with that brace on last year, if he regains any of his athleticism he will be back to dominating the PG position.

He would have been the face of the NBA if he had ever played in a bigger market or a better team

[Pointguard]

The guy was good 3-4 years ago, but that was his peak. He's been a washout player ever since. He was really good, but now he is the king of the most overrated player in the NBA. He had a good series against the Lakers because he played against 50 year old Fisher. Even TJ Ford would look like MJ against Fisher. All he can do now is flop, and fake injuries. The guy is a failure. I see him as more of a role player, he can't lead a team by himself to the glory land. He is not in the same class as Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Durant, Rose and Dirk. Overrated. How are people putting him in the top 5?

To me he is the purest point guard out there and incredible at creating for other guys who can't do it on their own. He was the best three years ago. Amazingly, DWill was arguably right there with him two years ago and mysteriously CP is now clearly better than him after a two year absence (he did play but not at an elite level) and three excellent playoff games? People are acting like CP doesn't have to play to be considered the best now. We don't even know if he can push 75 games in a year.

[Fiasco]

His career is on the decline and it will continue. The problem is now he has competition at the PG position, where now there are athletic PGs that can shut down his game. Back in 06 he really had no competition at the PG level. He's overrated.

No words.

[ballerz]

I personally think that paul is better then rose. Paul is the purest point guards we have seen for quite some time

[knicksman]

who cares? theres no pg anyways whos not overrated. In fact they won 4 mvps this decade but no rings. LOL While players like dirk, amare, bosh,howard gets constantly underrated. Small men are always overrated while big men underrated.

[brisbaneman]

I think you will be surprised how good he will be after he gets out of New Orleans and gets on a quality team.

actually if anything being on a great team will expose him.

[HylianNightmare]

get him to orlando or new york and see how overrated he is...

[brisbaneman]

get him to orlando or new york and see how overrated he is...

there's only one ball to go around in NYC. he'll do better in Orlando but he's ball dominant.

[Inception28]

there's only one ball to go around in NYC. he'll do better in Orlando but he's ball dominant.
What is wrong with being ball-dominant? He is a PG, go ahead and name me a PG who isn't ball-dominant.

[SunsCaptain]

there's only one ball to go around in NYC. he'll do better in Orlando but he's ball dominant.

Pick n roll with Amare is golden and can outlet to Carmelo.

Seems like a fine fit.

He would rack up the assists and hit the shots he needs to hit.

[brisbaneman]

What is wrong with being ball-dominant? He is a PG, go ahead and name me a PG who isn't ball-dominant.

jason kidd, steve nash...I understand your point, but he is particularly dominant, a PG version of lebron--basically every play is him running off 20 high screens and dribbling for 20 seconds...so yeah he's going to rack up huge stats but it isn't conducive to winning basketball. and he's a liability on defense. thats why i'd personally rather have deron williams or rajon rondo.

[brisbaneman]

Pick n roll with Amare is golden and can outlet to Carmelo.

Seems like a fine fit.

He would rack up the assists and hit the shots he needs to hit.

that will literally be the worst defensive team ever.

chris paul, carmelo anthony, and amare--holy shit. the 2 guard and center on that team would need to be defensive gods.

[Inception28]

jason kidd, steve nash...I understand your point, but he is particularly dominant, a PG version of lebron--basically every play is him running off 20 high screens and dribbling for 20 seconds...so yeah he's going to rack up huge stats but it isn't conducive to winning basketball. and he's a liability on defense. thats why i'd personally rather have deron williams or rajon rondo.
They do that a lot because Chris Paul is the only player that knows how to generate points for their team. That being said the Hornets occasionally run plays and sets for their shooters and feed it to David West in the high or low post.

Liability on defense? Tell me how many defensive liabilities have made the all-defensive team in the past.

[brisbaneman]

They do that a lot because Chris Paul is the only player that knows how to generate points for their team. That being said the Hornets occasionally run plays and sets for their shooters and feed it to David West in the high or low post.

Liability on defense? Tell me how many defensive liabilities have made the all-defensive team in the past.

He's a liability in the typical way--gambles on defense, can't stay in front of his man, etc very similar to iverson during his heyday---everyone knows the defense team voting is a joke. he's simply not a good defender and it's not like he's russell westbrook type who is a lock down defender but now has to focus on offense--he's just never been a good defender.

[Lebron23]

They do that a lot because Chris Paul is the only player that knows how to generate points for their team. That being said the Hornets occasionally run plays and sets for their shooters and feed it to David West in the high or low post.

Liability on defense? Tell me how many defensive liabilities have made the all-defensive team in the past.


He hated CP3 because Paul torched the Dallas Mavericks in the playoffs.

[brisbaneman]

He hated CP3 because Paul torched the Dallas Mavericks in the playoffs.

Nah not really because dirk killed new orleans more than he hurt dallas.

i'm just constantly amazed at how overrated a guy who has one playoffs series win under his belt can be despite being in the league 6 years.

[Inception28]

He's a liability in the typical way--gambles on defense, can't stay in front of his man, etc very similar to iverson during his heyday---everyone knows the defense team voting is a joke. he's simply not a good defender and it's not like he's russell westbrook type who is a lock down defender but now has to focus on offense--he's just never been a good defender.
I have a very tough time believing that a player that has led the league in spg for 3 seasons, made 3 all-defensive team in his career and was voted 6th, 7th, and 12th for DPOY is considered a liability or not a very good defender.

[brisbaneman]

I have a very tough time believing that a player that has led the league in spg for 3 seasons, made 3 all-defensive team in his career and was voted 6th, 7th, and 12th for DPOY is considered a liability or not a very good defender.

Well the only way to convince you is to get you to study him when he plays again if the season ever commences. He's not a good defender. I've followed him for a while. I can name several players at his position who are clearly better man defenders.

[RazorBaLade]

he does EVERYTHING for noh. he is amazing, hope he gets on a good team he'll easily be in running for t3 and win mvp(s).

think about what he does for that team.. every time someone scores its pretty much created by him

[Inception28]

Well the only way to convince you is to get you to study him when he plays again if the season ever commences. He's not a good defender. I've followed him for a while. I can name several players at his position who are clearly better man defenders.
You don't have to be a great man defender to be a great defender. Kevin Garnett was never a good man defender, yet he is one of the greatest defensive players to ever play the game. Chris Paul's great defense like KG comes from his help defense. I've watched Chris Paul a lot in his career, so I know I am right here and you are wrong. I remember the same arguments people use to use that you are currently using about Chris Paul. And guess what? They were all Jazz fans trying to dismiss Chris Paul so they could prop up Deron Williams.

[brisbaneman]

You don't have to be a great man defender to be a great defender. Kevin Garnett was never a good man defender, yet he is one of the greatest defensive players to ever play the game. Chris Paul's great defense like KG comes from his help defense. I've watched Chris Paul a lot in his career, so I know I am right here and you are wrong. I remember the same arguments people use to use that you are currently using about Chris Paul. And guess what? They were all Jazz fans trying to dismiss Chris Paul so they could prop up Deron Williams.

they wouldn't need to do that considering deron williams crushes him head to head.

your point guard is your first line of defense. a point guard who cannot stay in front of his man puts a ton of pressure on the front line--which is why NOH always has great shot blockers to make up for his deficiencies. His making the defensive teams is a function of goodwill more so than his actual defensive ability. As I said, there are at least 10 starting point guards better than him at that end.

[Ikill]

What is wrong with being ball-dominant? He is a PG, go ahead and name me a PG who isn't ball-dominant.
Nothing wrong with being ball dominant if your a pg pretty much all are but its just hard to build a team around a guy thats ball dominant. Its the reason point gaurd lead teams don't win.

[dbugz]

CP3 single handedly destroyed the Lakers during game 2(If I'm not mistaken) last playoffs.

Dude was beasting that time dropping pass to an open teammates and stealing the ball out of nowhere.

Too bad most of his teammates sucks big time.

[knickswin]

Nothing wrong with being ball dominant if your a pg pretty much all are but its just hard to build a team around a guy thats ball dominant. Its the reason point gaurd lead teams don't win.

I agree that ball dominance usually isn't conducive to winning championships, but there is a bit of correlation versus causation scenario here. If a player is ball dominant because no one else on his team is talented enough to create for himself or others, then that team probably isn't talented enough to win a championship.

Personally, I think Paul's production would decrease if he were to go to a more talented team, but I do think he could be a major piece on a championship team. He is a good enough shooter to at least have something to do when the ball isn't in his hands.

[knickswin]

that will literally be the worst defensive team ever.

chris paul, carmelo anthony, and amare--holy shit. the 2 guard and center on that team would need to be defensive gods.

Well, first of all it's also bound to be one of the best offensive teams ever, but also you're overstating how bad at defending these guys are. Paul is a pretty good team defender. I'm not going to pretend he's an excellent man defender outside of picking pockets, but there are very few PGs who keep their men in front of them anyway. Carmelo is actually a pretty good defender when he feels like it and isn't being lazy about switching. Amar'e sucks pretty much, but when he's really focusing on it he isn't a total liability on that end.

[Fatal9]

He's a liability in the typical way--gambles on defense, can't stay in front of his man, etc very similar to iverson during his heyday---everyone knows the defense team voting is a joke. he's simply not a good defender and it's not like he's russell westbrook type who is a lock down defender but now has to focus on offense--he's just never been a good defender.

:facepalm :facepalm

[kenny817]

Joke topic? CP3 is hands down the best pg in the league...possibly top 5 overall player as well

[QuebecBaller]

Joke topic? CP3 is hands down the best pg in the league...possibly top 5 overall player as well

He's been injured... and he never makes highlight flashy dunk, so he can't be a great pg
:facepalm

[CelticBaller]

if CP3 is overrated then change the title to

Rajon Rondo: The most overrated player

[Celtics4ever]

if CP3 is overrated then change the title to

Rajon Rondo: The most overrated player

Funny you say that because I think Rajon Rondo is pretty overrated even thought I'm a big Celtics fan. But I think this year his ratings fell back on earth. If you put Chris Paul on a good team, you will see how he's not that great as people make him out to be. You put Steve Nash on the hornets and he will give the hornets more wins. The Hornets have really good outside shooting, they won a bunch of games without Chris Paul. He is a system PG that is becoming way overrated, he will get exposed sooner or later, let's hope it's next year so you guys can get your mind straight.

[yobore]

The Hornets have really good outside shooting, they won a bunch of games without Chris Paul. He is a system PG that is becoming way overrated, he will get exposed sooner or later, let's hope it's next year so you guys can get your mind straight.
rofl I hope these two sentences are irony but I'm not really sure. The only reason the Hornets are in the top half of 3pt shooting teams is because CP shoots them so well himself. The only reason they are in the top 2/3 is because he gets them wide open looks even when he's hobbled. Bellinelli's solid shooting 3's but the rest are not 3pt shooters. THey won a lot of games without him? which ones? I seem to recall they fell apart completely the year he got injured, The year before that they won 49 with a team featuring a grand total of 2.5 players who made NBA rotations the following season (West, and Paul himself, with Rasual Butler occasionally getting burn on the Clippers)

which system? dominating the ball (and the game) like he did 07-09? setting his teammates up early to go to work and playing off the ball like he did effectively when he was recovering? crawling pace like the Hornets or up and down like in college or the Olympics where by the way he was the most underrated player on the team, playing his role perfectly. CP is anything but a system PG

[brisbaneman]

Joke topic? CP3 is hands down the best pg in the league...possibly top 5 overall player as well

i think deron williams is better

[Go Getter]

he does EVERYTHING for noh. he is amazing, hope he gets on a good team he'll easily be in running for t3 and win mvp(s).

think about what he does for that team.. every time someone scores its pretty much created by him


Thorton made plenty of buckets without CP3 and in the playoffs they had CP3 playing off guard at times.

[EricForman]

The guy was good 3-4 years ago, but that was his peak. He's been a washout player ever since. He was really good, but now he is the king of the most overrated player in the NBA. He had a good series against the Lakers because he played against 50 year old Fisher. Even TJ Ford would look like MJ against Fisher. All he can do now is flop, and fake injuries. The guy is a failure. I see him as more of a role player, he can't lead a team by himself to the glory land. He is not in the same class as Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Durant, Rose and Dirk. Overrated. How are people putting him in the top 5?


Are you aware Paul suffered a pretty serious injury, which explains why he dropped off a bit in 2010 and 2011?

Are you aware that Paul in 08 and 09 had a top 5 elite PG season?

Are you aware that he didn't have much help this year and yet won two games against the Lakers, a much stacker team?

Paul can't lead a team like Rose? Wow.

[EricForman]

who cares? theres no pg anyways whos not overrated. In fact they won 4 mvps this decade but no rings. LOL While players like dirk, amare, bosh,howard gets constantly underrated. Small men are always overrated while big men underrated.

PGs are always overrated? Even Kyle Lowry?

Amare is under rated? The dude who got paid same value (or near) as Lebron and Dirks? The guy who's been the best player on his own team for half a season (and that was a .500 team)? The guy who's notoriously bad on defense, nd got outrebounded by Lamar Odom significantly in the 2010 WCF?

ISH is seirously getting insane.

[Celtics4ever]

Are you aware Paul suffered a pretty serious injury, which explains why he dropped off a bit in 2010 and 2011?

Are you aware that Paul in 08 and 09 had a top 5 elite PG season?

Are you aware that he didn't have much help this year and yet won two games against the Lakers, a much stacker team?

Paul can't lead a team like Rose? Wow.

In 08 and 09 who did Paul compete with at the PG position? NO ONE. He had a bunch of scrubs guarding him every game.

He didn't have help this year? Ok, they were a really good defensive team and they have guys that can knock down open shots. Imagine if Rose or Deron Williams had players around them that can make some shots, they would kill.

Paul can't lead a team like Rose because Paul isn't a great leader, he is more of a role player. Watch him go to the knicks and become a role player.

And THE LAKERS? The team that got swept the next round? The team that has a 50 year old PG? The team that gave the PG the highest PPG all of last season?

Get off of his nuts. You proved how much overrated he is.

[Celtics4ever]

Stop defending your arguments with saying oh because he's injured bla bla bla. He's been injured for 3 years now? Okay fine, then how is he still the games elite? He has obviously fallen out of the games elite. All you guys are left to do is come up with excuses about his injuries. There is no injury, he's a flopper and his game is getting exposed because of point gaurds that have emerged the past 3 years.

[knicksman]

PGs are always overrated? Even Kyle Lowry?

Amare is under rated? The dude who got paid same value (or near) as Lebron and Dirks? The guy who's been the best player on his own team for half a season (and that was a .500 team)? The guy who's notoriously bad on defense, nd got outrebounded by Lamar Odom significantly in the 2010 WCF?

ISH is seirously getting insane.

amare is same as dirk and im sure dirk would be rank the same as amare if hes team aint winning and got that chip. Just because amare transferred to a young team doesnt mean he becomes worse when the year ago, dirk lost in the first round while amare sweep the team that beats dirk. The suns were nothing without amare. The same with deron, he whined that hes team can no longer due to boozer being in chicago. And who cares about being outrebounded, tell me where the suns right now without amare?

PGs won 4 mvps in this decade( 1 for rose and AI and 2 for nash)and could have been 5 if cp3 won it over kobe yet they got no rings to show for it and you have to go back 20 years to find a pg leading its team to a chip. These pgs arent needed to win a ring but its hard to win without a big man, but yet we constantly see, rose, AI, cp3, deron getting ranked ahead of dirk, gasol, amare, garnett, etc.

And only idiots include defense in their rankings. As one coach said, everybody can play defense if they want it. So I dont give a fcuk about defense coz I believe amare would buy into it once he has a team that can win it all. JUst like what pierce did. Only no talent players like noah, ben wallace needs to play defense or else they would be it out in this league. Defensive players are like prostitute, they need to sacrifice their bodies to get huge contracts by hustling and banging against opposing players which leads to injuries. In other words, they are willing to get injured just to get paid just like prostitutes willing to offer their bodies for money. While offensive players like dirk, amare, bosh and BOOZER can still get huge contracts without playing offense. So it is stupid for a player to play defense and end up like yao ming or oden when they can still get max without playing it. They are alot of no-talent players who are willing to do the dirty work for them so why not get them rather than sacrificing your star players.

[nathanjizzle]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k_Jm3TlK_8&feature=related

[RRR3]

amare is same as dirk and im sure dirk would be rank the same as amare if hes team aint winning and got that chip. Just because amare transferred to a young team doesnt mean he becomes worse when the year ago, dirk lost in the first round while amare sweep the team that beats dirk. The suns were nothing without amare. The same with deron, he whined that hes team can no longer due to boozer being in chicago. And who cares about being outrebounded, tell me where the suns right now without amare?

PGs won 4 mvps in this decade( 1 for rose and AI and 2 for nash)and could have been 5 if cp3 won it over kobe yet they got no rings to show for it and you have to go back 20 years to find a pg leading its team to a chip. These pgs arent needed to win a ring but its hard to win without a big man, but yet we constantly see, rose, AI, cp3, deron getting ranked ahead of dirk, gasol, amare, garnett, etc.

And only idiots include defense in their rankings. As one coach said, everybody can play defense if they want it. So I dont give a fcuk about defense coz I believe amare would buy into it once he has a team that can win it all. JUst like what pierce did. Only no talent players like noah, ben wallace needs to play defense or else they would be it out in this league. Defensive players are like prostitute, they need to sacrifice their bodies to get huge contracts by hustling and banging against opposing players which leads to injuries. In other words, they are willing to get injured just to get paid just like prostitutes willing to offer their bodies for money. While offensive players like dirk, amare, bosh and BOOZER can still get huge contracts without playing offense. So it is stupid for a player to play defense and end up like yao ming or oden when they can still get max without playing it. They are alot of no-talent players who are willing to do the dirty work for them so why not get them rather than sacrificing your star players.


Maybe Amar'e should start playing defense :oldlol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUpg9lVITyk

[RRR3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2k_Jm3TlK_8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdgNH1a1sCg :violin:

[Celtics4ever]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdgNH1a1sCg :violin:

Look at all these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_obk6HhclJQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsmQ1_Q1B14&feature=fvsr

This is only .001% of his flops during his career. He has started getting more into flops ever since he realized he isn't good enough to compete with the NBA's elite PGs.

I rather have a player like Rose bust his a$$ all by himself to carry the Bulls to the ECF and lose than have a flopper like Chris Paul cheat his helpless a$$ through.

Deron Williams would have done 100 times better with the Hornets.
Overrated!

[Celtics4ever]

When a player realizes he isn't good enough or the competition has outpaced him, he looks for cheating shortcuts to make him effective. Example of him flopping and faking injuries for the past 2-3 years and just loading up the free money.

I hate when he fakes a injury and falls on the ground and grabs his knee or somthing and pretends like it hurts for 2 minutes, and then he gets up acting like he's a hero and he will fight through it.

[kenny817]

I think this celtics4ever dude is secretly Chris Paul...trying to see what the general message board public REALLY thinks about his game/skills.

That's the only logical explanation for ANYONE to even remotely think that CP3 is overrated

[Andrei89]

obvious troll is obvious

[EricForman]

In 08 and 09 who did Paul compete with at the PG position? NO ONE. He had a bunch of scrubs guarding him every game.

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Um, Steve Nash, one of the top 3 greatest shooters ever. Deron Williams, Chauncey Billups, Jason Kidd. Rondo. Besides, Chris Paul was so good he was compared to other legit franchise guys, not just his position.


He didn't have help this year? Ok, they were a really good defensive team and they have guys that can knock down open shots. Imagine if Rose or Deron Williams had players around them that can make some shots, they would kill.



Everytime an idiot tries to argue that a crap cast is actually good, they go to stuff that can't be measured like "they are good at team defense", that's what Kobe fans say about Lebron's cast from 2004 to 2009 too. Let's ignore the lack of known names or general talent or ability to create shots, let's just say "THEY CAN HIT OPEN Js and PLAY SOLID DEFENSE, so this cast is more than enough".


Paul can't lead a team like Rose because Paul isn't a great leader, he is more of a role player. Watch him go to the knicks and become a role player.



So the ability to score with acrobatic layups and dunking is what you mean by leadership? Because other than that Rose isn't better at anything else.


And THE LAKERS? The team that got swept the next round? The team that has a 50 year old PG? The team that gave the PG the highest PPG all of last season?s

You were just saying how Kobe was on another class but yet you diss the Lakers as a whole team despite the fact he has a lot of help, with guys who are undoubtedly big and talented. So which way do you want it?



Get off of his nuts. You proved how much overrated he i

You're an idiot. I'm sure most other posters have agreed to this already here.

[EricForman]

amare is same as dirk and im sure dirk would be rank the same as amare if hes team aint winning and got that chip. Just because amare transferred to a young team doesnt mean he becomes worse when the year ago, dirk lost in the first round while amare sweep the team that beats dirk. The suns were nothing without amare. The same with deron, he whined that hes team can no longer due to boozer being in chicago. And who cares about being outrebounded, tell me where the suns right now without amare?

PGs won 4 mvps in this decade( 1 for rose and AI and 2 for nash)and could have been 5 if cp3 won it over kobe yet they got no rings to show for it and you have to go back 20 years to find a pg leading its team to a chip. These pgs arent needed to win a ring but its hard to win without a big man, but yet we constantly see, rose, AI, cp3, deron getting ranked ahead of dirk, gasol, amare, garnett, etc.

And only idiots include defense in their rankings. As one coach said, everybody can play defense if they want it. So I dont give a fcuk about defense coz I believe amare would buy into it once he has a team that can win it all. JUst like what pierce did. Only no talent players like noah, ben wallace needs to play defense or else they would be it out in this league. Defensive players are like prostitute, they need to sacrifice their bodies to get huge contracts by hustling and banging against opposing players which leads to injuries. In other words, they are willing to get injured just to get paid just like prostitutes willing to offer their bodies for money. While offensive players like dirk, amare, bosh and BOOZER can still get huge contracts without playing offense. So it is stupid for a player to play defense and end up like yao ming or oden when they can still get max without playing it. They are alot of no-talent players who are willing to do the dirty work for them so why not get them rather than sacrificing your star players.


:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: i'm not sure if you're trolling or just delusional or just started watching basketball in 2010.

[chazzy]

I need to see more consistency from him next season. Meniscus/cartilage injuries are no joke and can gradually get worse, especially since his tear was removed rather than repaired. Worst case scenario is a Roy situation if it continues to degenerate.

[D-Wade316]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdgNH1a1sCg :violin:
LOL

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[Bigsmoke]

Chris paul is the best PG since Magic Johnson.

[knicksman]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: i'm not sure if you're trolling or just delusional or just started watching basketball in 2010.

Book it, knicks will be fighting for 1st place next season

and oh btw. if chris paul is good as he thinks, he shouldnt be joining amare but it seems he needs amare more than amare needs him. Just ask nash.

[OmniStrife]

Chris paul is the best PG since Magic Johnson.
:facepalm

By doing what exactly?

Getting a ROY award?
Leading the league in Assists 2 times?

He still has MILES to go to pass Payton, Nash, Kidd and more PGs.

[Cali Syndicate]

Book it, knicks will be fighting for 1st place next season

and oh btw. if chris paul is good as he thinks, he shouldnt be joining amare but it seems he needs amare more than amare needs him. Just ask nash.

Nash led an Amare-less Suns squad to the WCF in 06 while increasing his numbers practically all across the board and winning himself his 2nd MVP in a row.

Ask who?

[OmniStrife]

Nash led an Amare-less Suns squad to the WCF in 06 while increasing his numbers practically all across the board and winning himself his 2nd MVP in a row.

Ask who?
This.

People pretend to forget how the Suns had 2 massive changes in their roster during the season.

Or how Nash and Frye got injured.

Even with those the Suns have finished with a 40-42 record.

Steve Nash is capable of getting this team of Hill, Gortat and scrubs to the playoffs without Amar'e.

[EricForman]

Book it, knicks will be fighting for 1st place next season

and oh btw. if chris paul is good as he thinks, he shouldnt be joining amare but it seems he needs amare more than amare needs him. Just ask nash.


delusional.

[knicksman]

Nash led an Amare-less Suns squad to the WCF in 06 while increasing his numbers practically all across the board and winning himself his 2nd MVP in a row.

Ask who?


While suns didnt make the playoffs now and at the time when amare had his eye surgery. Suns were even struggling at that time against the lakers and clippers.

And did you know that the suns wouldnt have made the playoffs if not for amare playing like mvp in 2008 and 2010 season?

[knicksman]

This.

People pretend to forget how the Suns had 2 massive changes in their roster during the season.

Or how Nash and Frye got injured.

Even with those the Suns have finished with a 40-42 record.

Steve Nash is capable of getting this team of Hill, Gortat and scrubs to the playoffs without Amar'e.

Suns is struggling to make the playoffs during the 2008 season until amare exploded just like the 2010 season. They even missed the playoffs when amare had his eye surgery.