Official Euroleague weekly MVP watch

[Fatal9]

Week 1

Andrei Kirilenko

Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrgXBwdOfec

17 pts, 15 rebs, 5 asts, 4 blks

Week 2

Nicolas Batum

Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsIvQUTaVkU (BEAST!)

26 pts, 7 rebs, 8 asts, 2 stls + took over in fourth quarter

Week 3:

Jordan Farmar

Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvXA7nHVSgY

27 pts, 4 rebs, 5 asts on 10/12 shooting

Week 4:

Nicolas Batum

21 pts, 9 rebs, 4 asts (on just 9 shots)

Week 5 (so far):

Andrei Kirilenko

17 pts, 9 rebs, 2 asts, 6 stls, 3 blks (2/3 shooting, 12/13 from the line), just amazing defensive performance and offensive efficiency.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Week 1

Andrei Kirilenko

Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrgXBwdOfec

17 pts, 15 rebs, 5 asts, 4 blks

Week 2

Nicolas Batum

Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsIvQUTaVkU (BEAST!)

26 pts, 7 rebs, 8 asts, 2 stls + took over in fourth quarter

Week 3:

hasn't been made official yet but it will be...

Jordan Farmar

27 pts, 4 rebs, 5 asts on 10/12 shooting

:bowdown:

[Kblaze8855]

What happened to Sarunas Jasikivwhateverius? Guy from I think Lithuania. Was on the Pacers and Warriors after a good show in the olympics.

I ****ed with him.

[catch24]

What happened to Sarunas Jasikivwhateverius? Guy from I think Lithuania. Was on the Pacers and Warriors after a good show in the olympics.

I ****ed with him.

Y'all were good tag team partners?

[Kblaze8855]

We beat NBA jam together using the Hornets.

[G-train]

Week 1

Andrei Kirilenko

Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrgXBwdOfec

17 pts, 15 rebs, 5 asts, 4 blks

Week 2

Nicolas Batum

Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsIvQUTaVkU (BEAST!)

26 pts, 7 rebs, 8 asts, 2 stls + took over in fourth quarter

Week 3:

hasn't been made official yet but it will be...

Jordan Farmar

27 pts, 4 rebs, 5 asts on 10/12 shooting

Have you watched a single euroleague game right thru this season?
Just out of interest, not sure if a euroleague fan or just semi-trolling.
Leaning to trolling as you should wait for the games to finish.

[Euroleague]

Week 1

Andrei Kirilenko

Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrgXBwdOfec

17 pts, 15 rebs, 5 asts, 4 blks

Week 2

Nicolas Batum

Highlights http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsIvQUTaVkU (BEAST!)

26 pts, 7 rebs, 8 asts, 2 stls + took over in fourth quarter

Week 3:

hasn't been made official yet but it will be...

Jordan Farmar

27 pts, 4 rebs, 5 asts on 10/12 shooting


:lol :oldlol: :roll:

What happened to your other thread where you said it was already official?

[G-train]

What happened to Sarunas Jasikivwhateverius? Guy from I think Lithuania. Was on the Pacers and Warriors after a good show in the olympics.

I ****ed with him.

Jasikevicius. Panathinaikos.

[Grinder]

What happened to Sarunas Jasikivwhateverius? Guy from I think Lithuania. Was on the Pacers and Warriors after a good show in the olympics.

I ****ed with him.
Pretty much only good for running pick and rolls and perimeter shooting at this stage of his career, nothing more than a role player now.

Acie Law has a shot too - 26/7...Farmar has a higher ranking though so unless someone goes off tomorrow, he'll probably get it.

[bdreason]

Farmar with 27/4/5 in a 40 min game?!?


Euroleague Isiah Thomas.

[Heavincent]

Jordan Farmar :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Below average NBA player looking like Jordan in the Euroleague :oldlol:

[Maga_1]

Jordan Farmar :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Below average NBA player looking like Jordan in the Euroleague :oldlol:

One game just.

[L8kersfan222]

Euroleague/Maga 1 getting raped as always.

[DevilsAssassin]

Jasikevicius. Panathinaikos.

i see you rocking the beast Joel Anthony :pimp:

[Maga_1]

Euroleague/Maga 1 getting raped as always.

i want to know why i'm getting raped .

btw, i'm not your mom.

[G-train]

i see you rocking the beast Joel Anthony :pimp:

:rockon:

[Rooster]

Jordan Farmar MVP. LMAO

Howland used to slap his fingers because of overgrown nails.

Against hopeless Euros, he nailing everything.

And look like a grown man.

FTW.

Only in Euroleague

Where Jordan Farmar happens.

[Euroleague]

Pretty much only good for running pick and rolls and perimeter shooting at this stage of his career, nothing more than a role player now.

Acie Law has a shot too - 26/7...Farmar has a higher ranking though so unless someone goes off tomorrow, he'll probably get it.


Uh no......the weekly MVP award is strictly 100% based on Larry Bird hockey stat. Acie Law has zero chance "at it".

Please don't do you usual trolling here.

[Euroleague]

Have you watched a single euroleague game right thru this season?
Just out of interest, not sure if a euroleague fan or just semi-trolling.
Leaning to trolling as you should wait for the games to finish.


You are talking to someone that thinks Deron Williams and Adam Morrison both play in the Euroleague.

[Rooster]

Atlanta missed out on CP3 and DWill.

So they drafted this Law guy.

It turns out he is anemic Scrub.

Well in Euroleague he is torching it with a new blood.

Acie Mofo Law put up some ridiculous lines

26 points 7 assist and 3 rebounds. FTW

Stay in Euroleague Acie.

At least you're not an afterthought

LMAO

[Sakkreth]

What happened to Sarunas Jasikivwhateverius? Guy from I think Lithuania. Was on the Pacers and Warriors after he fcked usa in the olympics.

I ****ed with him.

Uhm he got old and in nba he already played past his prime and played for dumb ass coaches aswell who couldn't use unique talent. Now he plays for Panathinaikos as role player like Grinder mentioned.

[Euroleague]

Atlanta missed out on CP3 and DWill.

So they drafted this Law guy.

It turns out he is anemic Scrub.

Well in Euroleague he is torching it with a new blood.

Acie Mofo Law put up some ridiculous lines

26 points 7 assist and 3 rebounds. FTW

Stay in Euroleague Acie.

At least you're not an afterthought

LMAO


Now you are getting truly pathetic. Law is barely even an average player (I am being generous) in Euroleague so far.

[Nick Young]

Now you are getting truly pathetic. Law is barely even an average player (I am being generous) in Euroleague so far.
Have Spanoulis, Navarro or Teodosic put up any 26/7 games lately?

[Euroleague]

Have Spanoulis, Navarro or Teodosic put up any 26/7 games lately?

First, you claim Kirilenko plays SF, when he actually plays PF.

Now you claim Navarro plays PG, when he actually plays SG.

[RintjeRitsma]

Where does Victor Khryapa stand among the other Euroleague SF's? Wouldn't the 3pt shot of Vorontsevich be a better weapen in the starting line-up?

[Cermet]

Kaukenas had a very good game this week.

[Maga_1]

I was rapped by a bunch of european guys

yea, it's ok bro.

[L8kersfan222]

First, you claim Kirilenko plays SF, when he actually plays PF.

Now you claim Navarro plays PG, when he actually plays SG.
Answer the question phakkit


Euroleague and Maga 1 getting raped as usual.

[AirTupac]

It's so obvious that Euroleague does everything in his power to underrated American players.

He makes dumb threads insulting players like Batum yet the guy is putting up good numbers and leading his team to a decent record.

He gets embarassed in every thread he makes. When he has nothing else to excuse an American's dominant performance, he'll resort to his retard excuse of "he had the refs help".

[Grinder]

It's so obvious that Euroleague does everything in his power to underrated American players.

He makes dumb threads insulting players like Batum yet the guy is putting up good numbers and leading his team to a decent record.

He gets embarassed in every thread he makes. When he has nothing else to excuse an American's dominant performance, he'll resort to his retard excuse of "he had the refs help".

He's got some twisted agenda against American players, black players, and any NBA players (even European ones like Batum).

Andrei Kirilenko was named the Euroleague MVP for October.

http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/88839/180

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/34435/26bd4481-b158-4149-974c-6a6a43c9d5e0/753/filename/andrei-kirilenko-cska-moscow.jpg

[QUOTE]On the heels of a disappointing 2010-11 Turkish Airlines Euroleague season, it took CSKA Moscow just two games to prove to everyone that the team is back on track to fight for its seventh continental title already this season. After two regular season games, CSKA leads the competition in assists, is second in scoring and performance index rating and has registered two clear wins over Zalgiris and Brose Baskets. One man who has everything to do with CSKA's early-season resurgence is power forward Andrei Kirilenko, who is Euroleague Basketball's choice as bwin MVP for October. Kirilenko returned to CSKA this season after a decade abroad and has made sure nobody has forgotten about his talent or intensity. Kirilenko delivered right away with a monster performance in the Euroleague's Opening Game in Kaunas by helping his team all over the court to earn Week 1 bwin MVP honors. Far from being satisfied, Kirilenko led CSKA to a convincing home win against Brose Baskets. The 30-year-old Kirilenko leads the 2011-12 Euroleague in performance index rating average (30), rebounding (9.5 rpg.) and blocks (2.5 bpg.) and is also tied for fifth place in assists (5.5 apg.). In other words, Andrei Kirilenko is the logical selection as bwin MVP for October!

The bwin MVP of the Month honor is now in its eighth season. Although statistics and performance ratings are taken into consideration for the award, they alone do not determine who is honored. The winner is named by Euroleague Basketball based on his and his team's performance. The award for October was decided based on the two regular season games played during that month by all 24 teams. bwin, a Euroleague Basketball partner, is the sponsor of the MVP of the Month award. Just as the best Euroleague player each month combines performance and leadership for success, so does bwin's sponsorship communicate its conviction to be the best betting brand in European basketball.

The Euroleague Opening Game was a big test for CSKA and Kirilenko at the brand new Zalgiris Arena in basketball-crazy Lithuania. Far from being intimidated, Kirilenko downed the opening shot and had 8 points in the first quarter to put CSKA ahead for good and to help his team keep a safe margin throughout the second half. Kirilenko, who had led Russia to the bronze medal at EuroBasket 2011 in that very same arena, kept his and CSKA

[L8kersfan222]

Can't wait for the pic of AK47 hoisting up that MVP trophy its going to KILL Euroleague

[Maga_1]

Answer the question phakkit


Euroleague and Maga 1 getting raped as usual.

I like how you compare me to him :lol

So,enjoying the lockout?

[L8kersfan222]

:mad:



http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-09/17/xin_1520904171101687948476.jpg

Euroleague MVP

[Maga_1]

i can see you're enjoying the lockout :lol

[Rooster]

He's got some twisted agenda against American players, black players, and any NBA players (even European ones like Batum).

Andrei Kirilenko was named the Euroleague MVP for October.

http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/88839/180

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/34435/26bd4481-b158-4149-974c-6a6a43c9d5e0/753/filename/andrei-kirilenko-cska-moscow.jpg

The Euroleague MVP parade is rolling on

And the NBA Takeover is running with no brakes.

First week it was AK 47.

2nd week it was Batum

And now the 3rd week will be WTF Farmar

Farmar and Law look like a well oiled machines.

Scrubs are tearing it up in full effect.

LMAO

In Euroleague

Jordan Farmar happens

[bballer]

WHY IS THIS NOT IN THE INTERNATIONAL BASKETBALL SECTION????????????????????????????????????

srs reporting this thread.

[L8kersfan222]

i can see you're enjoying the lockout :lol


Google Anthony Parker MVP what do you get?




Did you mean:tony parker mvp?

[Grinder]

It's official now...Jordan Farmar wins it for week 3 with Acie Law finishing 2nd.

http://cdn.euroleague.net/rs/34895/0e8f7d7f-eeb6-45e9-b3ed-cad4c2f99d1f/362/filename/jordan-farmar-maccabi-electra.jpg



Week 3 bwin MVP: Jordan Farmar, Maccabi Electra
Jordan Farmar delivered his finest performance to date since joining Maccabi Electra Tel Aviv over the summer to lead the Israeli champs to an 88-82 victory over Real Madrid and earn Week 3 bwin MVP honors. Farmar, a Euroleague rookie, had big shoes to fill this season when he took the spot in the starting lineup of All-Euroleague point guard Jeremy Pargo, who led the Israeli champs to the Euroleague title game last season. But in a highly-anticipated showdown against the team Macccabi bested in the semifinals at last season’s Final Four in Barcelona, Farmar came through using his speed, shot making ability and ball handling skills to post big numbers. He finished with 27 points on 9-of-11 two-point shooting, made his only three-point attempt, and added 5 assists, 4 rebounds and 8 fouls drawn for a performance index rating of 35, which was best in the Euroleague this week. Another newcomer, Partizan mt:s guard Acie Law, also produced his best Euroleague game yet in leading his team to its maiden win this season. Law registered 26 points, 7 assists, 2 steals and just 1 turnover for a 32 index rating – second best in Week 3 – as Partizan topped Belgacom Spirou 91-81 Thursday at Pionir Arena. Third on the list of Week 3 stars is a savvy veteran. Rimantas Kaukenas of Montepaschi Siena went off for 24 points on near-perfect shooting as his team routed Galatasaray Medical Park 103-77 on Wednesday. Kaukenas finished with an index rating of 30. Week 2 bwin MVP Nicolas Batum produced another big night on the road Thursday, but it wasn’t enough to steer SLUC Nancy to victory. Nevertheless, Batum amassed 22 points, 6 rebounds, 6 assists and 4 steals as part of his 29 index rating. Rounding out the list of top Week 3 performers is two-time All-Euroleague big man Erazem Lorbek, who had 24 points with just 2 missed shots plus 5 rebounds as FC Barcelona Regal trumped Unics Kazan 65-93 in Russia.

http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/89058/180/week-3-bwin-mvp-jordan-farmar-maccabi-electra

[Rooster]

It's official now...Jordan Farmar wins it for week 3 with Acie Law finishing 2nd.

http://cdn.euroleague.net/rs/34895/0e8f7d7f-eeb6-45e9-b3ed-cad4c2f99d1f/362/filename/jordan-farmar-maccabi-electra.jpg



http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/89058/180/week-3-bwin-mvp-jordan-farmar-maccabi-electra


LMAO

Lakers can't wait to get rid of this guy

Even in UCLA he was never this good

Only in Euroleague

Where

Jordan Farmar happens

Hail Ear Jordan

[L8kersfan222]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d64/TheOnlyNoob/euroleaguebodybagged.png

[Maga_1]

Google Anthony Parker MVP what do you get?




Did you mean:tony parker mvp?
i can see you're enjoying the lockout:cheers:

[Fatal9]

Farmar, a Euroleague rookie, had big shoes to fill this season when he took the spot in the starting lineup of All-Euroleague point guard Jeremy Pargo, who led the Israeli champs to the Euroleague title game last season.

http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/89058/180/week-3-bwin-mvp-jordan-farmar-maccabi-electra

http://www.midwestsportsfans.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/mj-laughing.gif

[PTB Fan]

Jordan Farmar went off against a pretty good team. Great performance. He'll be a top 5 PG if he plays this 2011-12 full season for sure.

[Euroleague]

He's got some twisted agenda against American players, black players, and any NBA players (even European ones like Batum).

Andrei Kirilenko was named the Euroleague MVP for October.

http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/88839/180

http://www.euroleague.net/rs/34435/26bd4481-b158-4149-974c-6a6a43c9d5e0/753/filename/andrei-kirilenko-cska-moscow.jpg

The Euroleague played TWO GAMES in October.

You are either retarded, or you are a prick.

[Euroleague]

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2007-09/17/xin_1520904171101687948476.jpg

Euroleague MVP

WTF is wrong with you?

[Fatal9]

Looks like week 4 it's going to be...


Nicolas Batum again

21 pts, 9 rebs, 4 asts on just 9 shots (only 1 turnover for his critics out there)

:applause:

[Rooster]

Looks like week 4 it's going to be...


Nicolas Batum again

21 pts, 9 rebs, 4 asts on just 9 shots (only 1 turnover for his critics out there)

:applause:

LMAO

Batum MVP

Batum taking over

Batum is all that

FTW.

[Fatal9]

I doubt anyone eclipses Kirilenko who will probably be the runaway overall MVP this year.


Tonight he had...

17 points on just 3 shots, 9 rebounds, 2 asts, 6 stls, 3 blks


The NBA player dominance continues.

[Euroleague]

I doubt anyone eclipses Kirilenko who will probably be the runaway overall MVP this year.


Tonight he had...

17 points on just 3 shots, 9 rebounds, 2 asts, 6 stls, 3 blks


The NBA player dominance continues.

Yeah, so great he barely is over Jankunas...............

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Yeah, so great he barely is over Jankunas...............

As Vin Diesel once said... "you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning."... or do they not get movies in Arkansas?

[RintjeRitsma]

Yeah, so great he barely is over Jankunas...............

Yeah, so the competition isn't all that. We already knew that..

[Rooster]

Yeah, so the competition isn't all that. We already knew that..

I think VSpan was deserving too.

He played well today

His team won.

He was messing around

And almost got a triple double

26 points 6 dimes and 9 turnovers

A TO Machine indeed

LMAO

[7_cody]

I'm going to be honest, usually I hate trolling. However, I love every minute of trolling that Euroleague receives. He deserves it.

[Euroleague]

Great week for the "NBA stars" so far.

Batum dominated by Pelekanos.

Farmar dominated by Mallet in the first half.

[PTB Fan]

I think VSpan was deserving too.

He played well today

His team won.

He was messing around

And almost got a triple double

26 points 6 dimes and 9 turnovers

A TO Machine indeed

LMAO

:roll: :roll:

[PTB Fan]

Looks like week 4 it's going to be...


Nicolas Batum again

21 pts, 9 rebs, 4 asts on just 9 shots (only 1 turnover for his critics out there)

:applause:

:bowdown:

[taucesays]

I love how Euroleague refuses to quote any post that mentions Arkansas

[Grinder]

It's going to be Andrei Kirilenko again this week.

Week 1: Andrei Kirilenko
Week 2: Nicolas Batum
Week 3: Jordan Farmar
Week 4: Nicolas Batum
Week 5: Andrei Kirilenko

October MVP: Andrei Kirilenko


Arkansas.

[Euroleague]

It's going to be Andrei Kirilenko again this week.

Week 1: Andrei Kirilenko
Week 2: Nicolas Batum
Week 3: Jordan Farmar
Week 4: Nicolas Batum
Week 5: Andrei Kirilenko

October MVP: Andrei Kirilenko



LMFAO

Farmar, Batum, Lawson, Weems - all of them played like complete scrubs this week. Now that teams have a book on them and know how to adjust the defense..it could get ugly for you and the rest of the trolls in this forum.

You better hope that lockout ends soon buddy.

[Euroleague]

Jordan "the Chris Paul of Euroleague" Farmar had 5 points, 2 assists, a 4 ranking.

He was dominated in the game by "Euro scrub" Demond Mallet.

Nicolas "the Scottie Pippen of Euroleague" Batum had 9 points with a 14 ranking and was dominated by "Euro scrub" Michalis Pelekanos and his team lost.

Danilo "the Larry Bird of Euroleague" Gallinari had 14 points, and led his team to one of the single game greatest collapses in Euroleague history, as his team lost a late 20 point lead.................

Sonny Weems ("the LeBron James of Euroleague") and Ty Lawson ("the Isaiah Thomas of Euroleague") combined forces to play like complete scrubs and help guarantee their team a loss, and possibly eliminate them already from the competition. Weems gets a special star, considering his turnover at the end of the game basically caused the loss, which now makes at least two losses in Euroleague that he was personally responsible for.

The "total domination" continues........

[Positive]

I doubt anyone eclipses Kirilenko who will probably be the runaway overall MVP this year.


Tonight he had...

17 points on just 3 shots, 9 rebounds, 2 asts, 6 stls, 3 blks


The NBA player dominance continues.
:wtf:
How the hell do you score 17 points on 3 shots? That's some Dwhistle type shit.

[Euroleague]

:wtf:
How the hell do you score 17 points on 3 shots? That's some Dwhistle type shit.


He replaced Navarro as the Euroleague's new golden boy.

[bdreason]

Kirilenko aka AK47 aka Euroleague Scottie Pippen :bowdown:

[Positive]

He replaced Navarro as the Euroleague's new golden boy.
why would they promote an NBA player as their new "golden boy?" hmmmm....

[Euroleague]

why would they promote an NBA player as their new "golden boy?" hmmmm....

Why would they promote Navarro as their golden boy? hmm?

BTW, Acie Law "dominated" 2/13 from the field............

[Positive]

Why would they promote Navarro as their golden boy? hmm?

BTW, Acie Law "dominated" 2/13 from the field............
because Navarro will always be there? Who the **** cares about Acie Law? You say that like means something.

[Euroleague]

because Navarro will always be there? Who the **** cares about Acie Law? You say that like means something.

Who the hell cares in Europe abut Farmar and Batum? Seriously..........they are just regular players there and nothing more.

Don't you get that? You are imagining things that are not true.

[Euroleague]

No NBA lockout player won Eurocup Week 2 MVP.

No NBA lockout player won Euroleague Week 6 MVP.


How odd, that no NBA only fan bumped this thread............

:confusedshrug:

[BlackJoker23]

deron williams shaping up to shit on euroleague:bowdown:

[Euroleague]

deron williams shaping up to shit on euroleague:bowdown:

He does not play in the Euroleague.

[BlackJoker23]

He does not play in the Euroleague.
bro how mad were u after deron williams aka the eurogoat broke the record in the eurochallange cup??? thing is my dudes just getting started. about to shatter the record book

[Euroleague]

bro how mad were u after deron williams aka the eurogoat broke the record in the eurochallange cup??? thing is my dudes just getting started. about to shatter the record book

European basketball fans don't even follow or watch EuroChallenge. No one cares about it in all honesty.

[BlackJoker23]

European basketball fans don't even follow or watch EuroChallenge. No one cares about it in all honesty.
what about european basketball fans from arkansas? i heard they care about it alot

[Lebowski]

European basketball fans don't even follow or watch EuroChallenge. No one cares about it in all honesty.

Haha! I like how you think you speak for all "European basketball fans". All this while you live in Arkansas. You are like the overthrowned dictator who is trying to run things and stay in control from another country. Why you went to the USA is beyond me, seeing how you seem to dislike it so much. :oldlol:

[novocaine]

Nah,

hes right, no one follows eurochallenge.

[Lebowski]

Nah,

hes right, no one follows eurochallenge.

Surely the teams fans are following it? They dont count?

[novocaine]

Surely the teams fans are following it? They dont count?


well i can only speak for the german bbl teams, but the average eurochallenge crowd consists of maybe 900-1000.

in the bbl about 4000.

opponets like budnocost, bemaco nitra or kervanos, of whom the majority not even knows which country they are from, are no crowd magnets.

[Euroleague]

Surely the teams fans are following it? They dont count?

What fans? No one gives a crap about it.

[Fatal9]

NBA is back


so.......





http://i44.tinypic.com/10pc2fl.jpg

[coin24]

NBA is back


so.......





http://i44.tinypic.com/10pc2fl.jpg


:roll: :roll: repped...

keep it in the international forum now euroleague....

[Grinder]

November MVP: Nenad Krstic

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nenad+Krstic+Boston+Celtics+v+Los+Angeles+7nKk36T7 kBwl.jpg

http://www.euroleague.net/news/i/90375/180

October MVP: Andrei Kirilenko

[outbreak]

So the man with the worst haircut in the NBA is beasting it up in Euroleague?]

Kristic isn't comming back either is he?

[Euroleague]

So the man with the worst haircut in the NBA is beasting it up in Euroleague?]

Kristic isn't comming back either is he?

Yeah 14/7 in Euroleague...it's almost as good as his 16/7 with the Nets in the NBA.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

Yeah 14/7 in Euroleague...it's almost as good as his 16/7 with the Nets in the NBA.

He is actually averaging 15/7. But let's also compare the minutes played and field goal percentage.

In EuroLeague he is only playing 24 minutes a night to get 15/7. In the NBA he played 33 minutes a night. In EuroLeague to get 15/7 he shot 61% from the field. In the NBA he shot 53%.

Give Krstic another 8 minutes a night in EuroLeague and he could very well be a 20 PPG player. He would never be that in the NBA.

And let's also remember that he went down with a devastating injury. So he has better production in EuroLeague than in the NBA even with limited mobility compared to what he was as a 24 year old in the NBA.

[outbreak]

Yeah 14/7 in Euroleague...it's almost as good as his 16/7 with the Nets in the NBA.

Why is everything for you having to compare the two and try to make the NBA look bad? Seriously dude get over it. I wasn't having a go at the Euroleague. You do not need to go google his stats from 5 years ago to try to make it look like he's having more trouble in the euroleague. I like Kristic and as Boston are my second team I would be happy for him to come back and be a beast in green for them.

[Rnbizzle]

NBA is back


so.......





http://i44.tinypic.com/10pc2fl.jpg
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :lol :lol

[Euroleague]

For the 2nd consecutive week, the NBA players failed to win a weekly MVP award in either the Euroleague or the Eurocup.

And YES, the NBA players were still playing in Europe last week and this week.

[Dave3]

He is actually averaging 15/7. But let's also compare the minutes played and field goal percentage.

In EuroLeague he is only playing 24 minutes a night to get 15/7. In the NBA he played 33 minutes a night. In EuroLeague to get 15/7 he shot 61% from the field. In the NBA he shot 53%.

Give Krstic another 8 minutes a night in EuroLeague and he could very well be a 20 PPG player. He would never be that in the NBA.

And let's also remember that he went down with a devastating injury. So he has better production in EuroLeague than in the NBA even with limited mobility compared to what he was as a 24 year old in the NBA.
And he's not a 16/7 player. Generally when Euroleague posts stats, you have to recheck ALL of them, because it's likely for many to be wrong.

He's currently an 8/5 player on 51%. His 16/7 season came 5 years ago in 33 mpg, playing against that guy named Jason Kidd.

He goes from 8/5 on 51% to 15/7 on 61%. Almost double points, and add a couple rebounds while increasing shooting percentage by 10.

[Euroleague]

He is actually averaging 15/7. But let's also compare the minutes played and field goal percentage.

In EuroLeague he is only playing 24 minutes a night to get 15/7. In the NBA he played 33 minutes a night. In EuroLeague to get 15/7 he shot 61% from the field. In the NBA he shot 53%.

Give Krstic another 8 minutes a night in EuroLeague and he could very well be a 20 PPG player. He would never be that in the NBA.

And let's also remember that he went down with a devastating injury. So he has better production in EuroLeague than in the NBA even with limited mobility compared to what he was as a 24 year old in the NBA.

Hey moron, the "EuroLeague" is not the league he plays in.

[Euroleague]

And he's not a 16/7 player. Generally when Euroleague posts stats, you have to recheck ALL of them, because it's likely for many to be wrong.

He's currently an 8/5 player on 51%. His 16/7 season came 5 years ago in 33 mpg, playing against that guy named Jason Kidd.

He goes from 8/5 on 51% to 15/7 on 61%. Almost double points, and add a couple rebounds while increasing shooting percentage by 10.

Oh wow, like he never did 15/7 in a 7 game stretch in the NBA ever.

Please shut up.

[Nash]

For the 2nd consecutive week, the NBA players failed to win a weekly MVP award in either the Euroleague or the Eurocup.

And YES, the NBA players were still playing in Europe last week and this week.
SUCCESS!!!!!

[Grinder]

Nenad Krstic is this week's MVP.

Every single Euroleague weekly MVP except for one week so far has been either a guy that's played in the NBA last year or a 2011 draft pick.

[Euroleague]

Nenad Krstic is this week's MVP.

Every single Euroleague weekly MVP except for one week so far has been either a guy that's played in the NBA last year or a 2011 draft pick.

And 2/3's of all the NBA rotation players have been either scrubs or mediocre players so far in Euroleague.

Kudos NBA guys......hell several of them have become among the worst players of the whole league.

[Fiba basketball]

Nenad Krstic is this week's MVP.

Every single Euroleague weekly MVP except for one week so far has been either a guy that's played in the NBA last year or a 2011 draft pick.
Krstic is playing good when he plays with pg that has great passing . When he was in New Jersey Nets he played with Kid , in Boston last year he had Rondo so he played very good , and in Serbian NT and now in CSKA he has Teodosic . And mvp of the week is stupid . Some players play in bad team so they play 40 min and they do everything so they get mvp of the week insted of great players that play in best team so they win every game but they play 20 mpg becouse that is enough to bring their team a win.

[madmax]

Krstic was pretty damn good in NBA too and with Teodosic feeding him in CSKA's structured offense he can shine too no problem. There's no need to take cheapshots at euro game just because somebody doesn't believe that NBA is holy grail of basketball

[RintjeRitsma]

There's no need to take cheapshots at euro game just because somebody doesn't believe that NBA is holy grail of basketball

Don't be so defensive. No cheapshot was taken.

[fatboy11]

Krstic was pretty damn good in NBA too and with Teodosic feeding him in CSKA's structured offense he can shine too no problem. There's no need to take cheapshots at euro game just because somebody doesn't believe that NBA is holy grail of basketball

But let's be honest: It is.

So anyone who doesn't share that opinion automatically loses credibility. I think your average 2nd round playoff team in the NBA can handle the best team, anywhere, from outside the NBA.

The NBA is the holy grail. Period.

[RintjeRitsma]

But let's be honest: It is.

So anyone who doesn't share that opinion automatically loses credibility. I think your average 2nd round playoff team in the NBA can handle the best team, anywhere, from outside the NBA.

The NBA is the holy grail. Period.

It is to Spanoulis, but not to everyone!! Holy grail is a bit of a reach. There is very good basketball played outside of the US, by very good players. The style of play is sometimes a bit different, and some people choice that above the entertaining style of the NBA.

[fatboy11]

It is to Spanoulis, but not to everyone!! Holy grail is a bit of a reach. There is very good basketball played outside of the US, by very good players. The style of play is sometimes a bit different, and some people choice that above the entertaining style of the NBA.

You don't say?

Well, where do the best players in the world play? And I mean THE best players.

They play in the NBA. If the NBA isn't the holy grail, what is? A league that does not feature the best players in the world?

Just because there are players that could play in the NBA outside of the NBA but don't, does not mean the NBA is still not, by far, the best league in the world for basketball. Where would the best player outside of the NBA rank in among the top basketball players in the world? Just curious.

If you can define "holy grail" as something with inferior talent, I don't think you understand what that term really means.

[RintjeRitsma]

You don't say?

Well, where do the best players in the world play? And I mean THE best players.

They play in the NBA. If the NBA isn't the holy grail, what is? A league that does not feature the best players in the world?

Just because there are players that could play in the NBA outside of the NBA but don't, does not mean the NBA is still not, by far, the best league in the world for basketball. Where would the best player outside of the NBA rank in among the top basketball players in the world? Just curious.

If you can define "holy grail" as something with inferior talent, I don't think you understand what that term really means.

The NBA is the league with the best players and the best basketball is played there. I'm not disputing that, I'm a NBA fan and couldn't care less about Euroleague (why is everyone so defensive about this subject). But that doesn't chanche the fact that the 'holy grail' of basketball possibly can't be found in the NBA. The rules that chanched a few years ago, have made NBA games a little bit less relevant to me, then the did in the years before. I like fundamental basketball, by the best players in the world. That's what the holy grail of basketball represents to me. The NBA is the place to look for that (although there are other places like the OS and possibly Euroleauge where you could find it also), but sometimes you have to look very very good, past lost of marginal basketball, to find it.

[fatboy11]

The NBA is the league with the best players and the best basketball is played there. I'm not disputing that, I'm a NBA fan and couldn't care less about Euroleague (why is everyone so defensive about this subject). But that doesn't chanche the fact that the 'holy grail' of basketball can be found in the NBA. The rules that chanched a few years ago, have made NBA games a little bit less relevant to me, then the did in the years before. I like fundamental basketball, by the best players in the world. The NBA is the place to look for that, but sometimes you have to look very hard for it.

I think you're over-exaggerating the decline of fundamentals in the NBA. At least when you allude to it making the league less relevant. It matters not if a guy has a better mechanical release on his jump shot if he can't hang with the best in the world.

There's still PLENTY of fundamental basketball being played in the NBA, it's just being outshined by never-before-seen athleticism. I won't argue that players are coming up with less fundamentals, but let's not act like these guys don't know how to play basketball because they do.

In my opinion, there's a reason why a lot of guys don't want to come over to the NBA, and that is because they know they're over-matched athletically. That makes them lesser basketball players, in my eyes, because athleticism is a huge part of the game (thus the term "athlete"). It doesn't matter to me if there are players out there with a little better fundamentals than the best players in the NBA because they just aren't better than the best players in the NBA on an overall level. You have to have skill and athleticism to rise to the top in the NBA. If you don't have the athleticism, you end up in Europe. If you don't have the skill, you end up like James White. If you have both, you end up in the holy grail.

[RintjeRitsma]

The top of the NBA maybe. But there are a lot of marginal players and games being played in the NBA as well as in Europe. Playing in the NBA doesn't mean, ending up in the holy grail, that's still a reach.

[fatboy11]

The top of the NBA maybe. But there are a lot of marginal players and games being played in the NBA as well as in Europe. Playing in the NBA doesn't mean, ending up in the holy grail, that's still a reach.

The NBA is the holy grail of basketball. Very few get to say they played in the same league as the best players in the world. Such a finite number of players make it to that level.

Your statement was about people believing that the NBA is the holy grail of basketball. Now it sounds like your argument is changing into something else? What was the meaning of your original statement?

[madmax]

I think you're over-exaggerating the decline of fundamentals in the NBA. At least when you allude to it making the league less relevant. It matters not if a guy has a better mechanical release on his jump shot if he can't hang with the best in the world.

There's still PLENTY of fundamental basketball being played in the NBA, it's just being outshined by never-before-seen athleticism. I won't argue that players are coming up with less fundamentals, but let's not act like these guys don't know how to play basketball because they do.

In my opinion, there's a reason why a lot of guys don't want to come over to the NBA, and that is because they know they're over-matched athletically. That makes them lesser basketball players, in my eyes, because athleticism is a huge part of the game (thus the term "athlete"). It doesn't matter to me if there are players out there with a little better fundamentals than the best players in the NBA because they just aren't better than the best players in the NBA on an overall level. You have to have skill and athleticism to rise to the top in the NBA. If you don't have the athleticism, you end up in Europe. If you don't have the skill, you end up like James White. If you have both, you end up in the holy grail.

athleticism is just a part of the game, but you are surely overestimating it.
NBA league is all about individual play and numbers - many times young players don't even care for wins or teams records as long as their stats look sexy and they shot their mandatory 20 times a game. That's why brainless chuckers like Iverson and Kobe are worshipped there - they are flashy, charismatic and they shoot a lot too. You barely see Duncan's name being mentioned, although he is a much better player than either of those 2. That's because NBA is big hype and marketing machine, where teamplay and fundamentals are just a sideshow to "superstars". And this kind of BS drives plenty of basketball purists away

[Fiba basketball]

I think that Nba has best players but that the best basketball is not played in Nba . Reason is that Nba rules do not allowe defence , every contact in Nba is a faul . They should have fiba rules that will allowe more contact and will cancle that stupid 3 sec in def rule. And the Nba champion and Euroleague champion shuld play at the end of the season to see who is better team and wont be this what league is better discussion .

[fatboy11]

athleticism is just a part of the game, but you are surely overestimating it.
NBA league is all about individual play and numbers - many times young players don't even care for wins or teams records as long as their stats look sexy and they shot their mandatory 20 times a game. That's why brainless chuckers like Iverson and Kobe are worshipped there - they are flashy, charismatic and they shoot a lot too. You barely see Duncan's name being mentioned, although he is a much better player than either of those 2. That's because NBA is big hype and marketing machine, where teamplay and fundamentals are just a sideshow to "superstars". And this kind of BS drives plenty of basketball purists away

I don't think I'm overestimating the role athleticism plays in basketball as much as the poster I was talking to is exaggerating how bad fundamentals are.

And you lost all credibility by calling one of the greatest basketball players ever a "brainless chucker." (talking about Kobe)

The NBA is a big hype machine, but one only has themselves to blame if they buy into false hype....

Tim Duncan is barely mentioned now because he's old and on the decline. He was talked about often when he was winning championships, MVPs, and being the best defensive big in the world.

[fatboy11]

I think that Nba has best players but that the best basketball is not played in Nba . Reason is that Nba rules do not allowe defence , every contact in Nba is a faul . They should have fiba rules that will allowe more contact and will cancle that stupid 3 sec in def rule. And the Nba champion and Euroleague champion shuld play at the end of the season to see who is better team and wont be this what league is better discussion .

The NBA champion and Euroleague champion should absolutely play a mix rules series (alternating games between FIBA and NBA rules).

Question: If the best basketball is not being played, where is it being played?

It sure isn't the Euroleague. Euroleague is a okay, but clearly inferior. Even with officiating geared to increase scoring and restrict defense, the NBA clearly has a better product.

[Euroleague]

Krstic is playing good when he plays with pg that has great passing . When he was in New Jersey Nets he played with Kid , in Boston last year he had Rondo so he played very good , and in Serbian NT and now in CSKA he has Teodosic . And mvp of the week is stupid . Some players play in bad team so they play 40 min and they do everything so they get mvp of the week insted of great players that play in best team so they win every game but they play 20 mpg becouse that is enough to bring their team a win.

Batum was a perfect example. He was playing 40 minutes and doing whatever he wanted to, even if it meant shooting 40% and having 5 turnovers a game.

His team didn't even care if they won or lost games, because they knew from before the season started that they had no chance to advance from the type of group they were in (Turkish League/Turkish Cup champs, Italian League/Italian Cup runner up, Spanish League runner up, Greek League runner up/Greek Cup champs, 4th placed Spanish League team)............so he could just stat pad, regardless of if he shot bad, turned it over a lot, was inefficient, and didn't play much defense at all.

But look, he was "MVP", he must have been "dominating".

[Fatal9]

Please move this thread to the international forum.

I no longer want to be reminded of the time when the lockout made me so desperate that I was forced to watch such an inferior brand of basketball.

[Fiba basketball]

The NBA champion and Euroleague champion should absolutely play a mix rules series (alternating games between FIBA and NBA rules).

Question: If the best basketball is not being played, where is it being played?

It sure isn't the Euroleague. Euroleague is a okay, but clearly inferior. Even with officiating geared to increase scoring and restrict defense, the NBA clearly has a better product.
Well Nba would be best if they change the rules , but now Nba and euroleague are two different sports . So it depense what kind of basketball you like more . Offensive league where there is more induvidual skill than team game or more defensive league with more contact and more team play. I like Euroleague more and for me best basketball is played their but I like to watch some Nba games sometimes too .

[Euroleague]

Krstic was pretty damn good in NBA too and with Teodosic feeding him in CSKA's structured offense he can shine too no problem. There's no need to take cheapshots at euro game just because somebody doesn't believe that NBA is holy grail of basketball

Krstic and Teodosic are best friends. So it makes sense that they have such good chemistry as they are showing. But really, I think the one who was benefiting more is Kirilenko.

Krstic is still getting some nice turnaround jumpers in the high post and low post that he is making on his own for the most part. Although he certainly does benefit from Teodosic and just mainly that he is being allowed to take some shots too. Nothing different than when he was playing with the Nets though.

But, Kirilenko, if you watched the games he played in so far..........he is just running around and getting passes and finishing some breaks, or getting a loose ball or offensive rebound and putting it in, or getting a dunk from a pick and roll and that sort of thing.

In terms of one to one scores, or plays called for him, he would have maybe 2 post ups in a game against a small forward. And he shoots the ball less and handles it way less than he did in the NBA. He is just getting a lot of more wide open dunks and layups because a lot of attention of the defense is on guys like Teodosic and Siskauskas.

In all honestly, Kirilenko was playing much worse on offense in Euroleague than he did in the NBA. Krstic has been doing good and playing well on offense. But with Kirilenko the stats are extremely skewed from watching him play. Especially in that he was also stat padding big time and playing against some really crappy teams too.

This is where the ranking stat and Euroleague weekly "MVP" award is total bull shit. But of course the NBA only fans think it is some kind of "domination".

Krstic to me was playing way better on offense than Batum and Kirilenko were. But Kirilenko was doing everything (like he is famous for), steals, blocks, rebounds, great defense, timely shots, hustle plays, efficient shooting percentage, etc. He is like the ultimate role player there is in any league.

But, he is not any great scorer by any means. Yet NBA fans believe he was "dominating" Euroleague. The problem with ranking stat and these awards being based on it, is that players like Kirilenko, Batum, San Emeterio, Diamantidis, Khryapa - those kinds of players will have inflated worth in this stat.

Really, Kirilenko is like a power forward version of Diamantidis. Truth be told, neither one of them is actually capable of carrying a team on offense. Which means they are super role players, but not "dominant" like some morons claim. They need some other guy to actually make the big shots for them.

And then, the ranking stat is basically helping out centers, because the rebound counts as one. But think of it is negative against play makers. They don't get the assist half the time, even if they made the play happen, or made the pass that setup the next pass to score.

So, PGs and SGs that create a lot of plays - Jasikevicius, Navarro, Spanoulis, Papaloukas, Teodosic, Huertas, etc. Those types of players will have a lower ranking than their true worth. And if they shoot a lot also (and since they are guards and 3 point shooters) then it will lower the ranking more, for guys like Navarro and Spanoulis.

And of course the ranking does not factor defense, but just blocks and steals. Guys like Onan, Vasilopoulos (if he is playing), Pelekanos.......there are players like this that maybe don't show up in steals and blocks stats unlike some others (Kirilenko, Diamantidis, Khryapa, Prigioni, etc.)...but just because they play a little different type defense. There is no stat for such players and their defense.

Like the game where Pelekanos totally shut down Batum on defense, yet with the ranking it almost appeared as a zero, with just a plus 1 for one block he had. But nothing at all for countless defensive stops against Batum.

The ranking stat = Euroleague weekly "MVP" is a bit bizarre.

[Euroleague]

You don't say?

Well, where do the best players in the world play? And I mean THE best players.

They play in the NBA. If the NBA isn't the holy grail, what is? A league that does not feature the best players in the world?

Just because there are players that could play in the NBA outside of the NBA but don't, does not mean the NBA is still not, by far, the best league in the world for basketball. Where would the best player outside of the NBA rank in among the top basketball players in the world? Just curious.

If you can define "holy grail" as something with inferior talent, I don't think you understand what that term really means.

The best Euroleague teams like Barca and CSKA, maybe fully healthy PAO would destroy any lottery NBA team.

[Fiba basketball]

Batum was a perfect example. He was playing 40 minutes and doing whatever he wanted to, even if it meant shooting 40% and having 5 turnovers a game.

His team didn't even care if they won or lost games, because they knew from before the season started that they had no chance to advance from the type of group they were in (Turkish League/Turkish Cup champs, Italian League/Italian Cup runner up, Spanish League runner up, Greek League runner up/Greek Cup champs, 4th placed Spanish League team)............so he could just stat pad, regardless of if he shot bad, turned it over a lot, was inefficient, and didn't play much defense at all.

But look, he was "MVP", he must have been "dominating".
I know , I was thinking about him when I wrote that . But there are players like Macvan who got mvp of the week but he doesnt do everything he wants , he just played great that game

[fatboy11]

Well Nba would be best if they change the rules , but now Nba and euroleague are two different sports . So it depense what kind of basketball you like more . Offensive league where there is more induvidual skill than team game or more defensive league with more contact and more team play. I like Euroleague more and for me best basketball is played their but I like to watch some Nba games sometimes too .

Ridiculous.

Can't discuss things rationally with people that stuff like this.

Sorry.

[Euroleague]

I think you're over-exaggerating the decline of fundamentals in the NBA. At least when you allude to it making the league less relevant. It matters not if a guy has a better mechanical release on his jump shot if he can't hang with the best in the world.

There's still PLENTY of fundamental basketball being played in the NBA, it's just being outshined by never-before-seen athleticism. I won't argue that players are coming up with less fundamentals, but let's not act like these guys don't know how to play basketball because they do.

In my opinion, there's a reason why a lot of guys don't want to come over to the NBA, and that is because they know they're over-matched athletically. That makes them lesser basketball players, in my eyes, because athleticism is a huge part of the game (thus the term "athlete"). It doesn't matter to me if there are players out there with a little better fundamentals than the best players in the NBA because they just aren't better than the best players in the NBA on an overall level. You have to have skill and athleticism to rise to the top in the NBA. If you don't have the athleticism, you end up in Europe. If you don't have the skill, you end up like James White. If you have both, you end up in the holy grail.


If there were refs calling fouls for everything, teams not playing defense, a no hand check rule, no true zone defense allowed, and a defensive 3 seconds rule all in place in the Euroleague...........then the Euroleague would be an endless parade of wide open dunks and layups just like the NBA is.

With a top 10 of highlight reel dunks every week, just like the NBA, and 20 players or so that would be "superstars" because they would be dunking the hell out of everything all the time.

The NBA "athletic superiority" is almost entirely a product of marketing and the rules of the league.

[fatboy11]

The best Euroleague teams like Barca and CSKA, maybe fully healthy PAO would destroy any lottery NBA team.

So their best would be the NBA's worst?

Okay.......and? There is a reason those teams are lottery teams (and I don't think they could destroy ANY lottery team from the NBA). I'm not going to sit here and act like an NBA couldn't possibly ever lose a game to a Euroleague team (even if it was a meaningful game). But I don't think a Euroleague club could really compete with any 2nd round playoff team from the NBA in a series (even under FIBA rules).

[fatboy11]

If there were refs calling fouls for everything, teams not playing defense, a no hand check rule, no true zone defense allowed, and a defensive 3 seconds rule all in place in the Euroleague...........then the Eruoleague would be an endless parade of wide open dunks and layups just like the NBA is.

With a top 10 of highlight reel dunks every week, just like the NBA, and 20 players or so that would be "superstars" because they would be dunking the hell out of everything all the time.

The NBA "athletic superiority" is almost entirely a product of marketing and the rules of the league.

Last Olympics says hi.

[Fiba basketball]

Ridiculous.

Can't discuss things rationally with people that stuff like this.

Sorry.
I didnt mean it like that . I meant that rules are a lot diffrent and playing style is diffren ( more team game in Euroleague ).

[fatboy11]

I didnt mean it like that . I meant that rules are a lot diffrent and playing style is diffren ( more team game in Euroleague ).

I don't disagree with that, but they're not worlds apart. The NBA just has a greater number of truly talented players.

[Fiba basketball]

I don't disagree with that, but they're not worlds apart. The NBA just has a greater number of truly talented players.
I didn t said that they are worlds apart , I said that rules and style of play makes difference . Again Nba has more great players but its about rules and style of play that makes me like euroleague more than Nba and that is probably the reason for others that like euroleague more too .

[fatboy11]

I didn t said that they are worlds apart , I said that rules and style of play makes difference . Again Nba has more great players but its about rules and style of play that makes me like euroleague more than Nba and that is probably the reason for others that like euroleague more too .

But I'm not arguing preference.

I'm talking about what is the best league. Like, I don't really like Garth Brooks, but he's still a better musician/performer than some of bands/artists I like. You don't have to prefer something to acknowledge that it's the best. The NBA has the best players and the most talented players. It's the best league on the planet and it's not even close. I prefer to watch college basketball over NBA basketball, but I know the NBA and its players are much, much better. Michael Jordan was never my favorite basketball player, but he was the most dominant player in the NBA. That doesn't mean that Derek Harper was the best player just because he was my favorite.

[Fiba basketball]

But I'm not arguing preference.

I'm talking about what is the best league. Like, I don't really like Garth Brooks, but he's still a better musician/performer than some of bands/artists I like. You don't have to prefer something to acknowledge that it's the best. The NBA has the best players and the most talented players. It's the best league on the planet and it's not even close. I prefer to watch college basketball over NBA basketball, but I know the NBA and its players are much, much better. Michael Jordan was never my favorite basketball player, but he was the most dominant player in the NBA. That doesn't mean that Derek Harper was the best player just because he was my favorite.
And I think that Nba is more of dunking and shooting contence than basketball game . Players there dont play with passion , they do not fight for every ball they dont care about their team , they only care about money , stats and championship ring. Thats why Nba isnt place where best basketball is played . When players stop thinking how to entertain audiance and more think about wining and doing their best than it will be.

[Fiba basketball]

I forgot to say this . I heard a lot of people calling Nba the flying circus and not an basketball league , now think why did they said that .

[Euroleague]

Please move this thread to the international forum.

I no longer want to be reminded of the time when the lockout made me so desperate that I was forced to watch such an inferior brand of basketball.

You never once watched a single Euroleague game in your whole life.

[Euroleague]

So their best would be the NBA's worst?

Okay.......and? There is a reason those teams are lottery teams (and I don't think they could destroy ANY lottery team from the NBA). I'm not going to sit here and act like an NBA couldn't possibly ever lose a game to a Euroleague team (even if it was a meaningful game). But I don't think a Euroleague club could really compete with any 2nd round playoff team from the NBA in a series (even under FIBA rules).

Teams like CSKA and Barca can compete with any team in the NBA.

[Euroleague]

Last Olympics says hi.

You mean the last Olympics where the refs had to help the USA just to barely beat a Spanish team that was missing its starting point guard?

[solar.hands]

You mean the last Olympics where the refs had to help the USA just to barely beat a Spanish team that was missing its starting point guard?
yes team spain who were lead by NBA guys like gasol bros, fernandez etc.

[Euroleague]

yes team spain who were lead by NBA guys like gasol bros, fernandez etc.

You mean the team that was led by Pau and Navarro? Marc Gasol was a mere role player on that team.

[solar.hands]

You mean the team that was led by Pau and Navarro? Marc Gasol was a mere role player on that team.

i think pau was still the leader of that team over navarro, he makes more impact on both the off and def end.

[Euroleague]

i think pau was still the leader of that team over navarro, he makes more impact on both the off and def end.

Pau and Navarro were the leaders, not Marc and Rudy.

[Nick Young]

MVP Farmar:bowdown:

[Nick Young]

You mean the last Olympics where the refs had to help the USA just to barely beat a Spanish team that was missing its starting point guard?
You mean the same olympics where we massacred Spain by about 28 in the group stage and then never let within 10 points of us for the entire gold medal game except for 2 minutes at the end when they were within 8 points and then Mamba took over? The same olympics where Dwayne wade had the god mode second quarter and shitted on Spain in a level of basketball dominance not seen since the days of prime Jordan?

It seems like we watched two different olympics:confusedshrug:

[dunksby]

You mean the last Olympics where the refs had to help the USA just to barely beat a Spanish team that was missing its starting point guard?
Yea the one you watched from Arkansas, that one!

[chains5000]

HUGE game for us against Caja Laboral this thursday, we're making it to the next round if we win:rockon:

[Euroleague]

You mean the same olympics where we massacred Spain by about 28 in the group stage and then never let within 10 points of us for the entire gold medal game except for 2 minutes at the end when they were within 8 points and then Mamba took over? The same olympics where Dwayne wade had the god mode second quarter and shitted on Spain in a level of basketball dominance not seen since the days of prime Jordan?

It seems like we watched two different olympics:confusedshrug:

The same Olympics where Spain didn't try in the first game (strategy) and then in the second game might have beaten the USA in the gold medal game, even playing without Calderon, IF the refs didn't gift free throws to the USA on fake technical fouls that were designed to help make sure Team USA won the gold medal.

That is the Olympics we are talking about.

[Euroleague]

HUGE game for us against Caja Laboral this thursday, we're making it to the next round if we win:rockon:

Bilbao better win. They will be a big disappointment if they don't make the Top 16. But then again so will Baskonia. So both teams better bring it.

I'm not sure what to make of this group. It's either really strong, or really bad.