Will The Lockout End Tomorrow?

[lilbill]

What's everyone's gut feeling?:confusedshrug:

[Yung D-Will]

All 30 NBPA team representatives will meet today in New York. They have two options: accept NBA's offer or decertify. They'll vote on it.

Alexkennedyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[DuMa]

my gut feeling is no.

[pegasus]

My guy feeling says yes, but I secretly want a "no", just to see what happens next.:lol

[iDunk]

Yes, the announcement will come at 12:00 PM

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Stephen A. put it best: For the fans, this is a potential doomsday.

[Kurosawa0]

The soap opera continues... unfortunately.

[Rnbizzle]

I would love it so much, but my gut feeling says no.

[NuggetsFan]

What time will we know if it's over or not?

[JohnnySic]

I hope so but I just doubt it.

[boozehound]

I think they will say yes. It doesnt make sense for the average player to push this further, especially as the owners want to give them a lesser offer already. Larry Coon had a post several weeks ago about how the different % of BRI is reflected in real dollars and it basically concluded that the difference between 53% and 50% over the entire 6-7 years of the CBA would be lost to the players in current income by january.

[Yung D-Will]

Today's meeting will be very interesting. It sounds like both sides have supporters, so there will be plenty of debating this afternoon.
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[thejumpa]

I think they will say yes. It doesnt make sense for the average player to push this further, especially as the owners want to give them a lesser offer already. Larry Coon had a post several weeks ago about how the different % of BRI is reflected in real dollars and it basically concluded that the difference between 53% and 50% over the entire 6-7 years of the CBA would be lost to the players in current income by january.

I agree. I think they will say yes but I really really hope that the deal isn't as bad as they are making it out to be. I would fully support them losing a season if it means a much better deal for the younger generation. Thing is, it's not looking like waiting any longer will produce a better deal.

[Rooster]

Hopefully yes but I think they gonna drag this till after Christmas. That's the time when both of the sides will come to their senses. They will soon realize that sometimes it's better to give then receive. Greedy mofos.

[Clutch]

My gut says YES.
Lockout will end tomorrow.

Usually I'm pessimistic but I have a good feeling about this one.

[TheMarkMadsen]

no.

[Clutch]

Bad news:

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[ZeN]

There will be no season.. sad.gif

[lilbill]

There will be no season.. sad.gif

:(

[Rab]

There isn't much out there that suggests to me that the union will accept this deal. I am prepared to let go of any hope for the season being played at all, and I'm not sure I really care that much anymore.

I love the NBA, and have been a loyal fan for 30 years, but this whole process has just really turned me off to the league, both players and owners. That doesn't mean I'll quit watching or never go to another game again, but I doubt I'll ever have the same passion for the league that I used to. At this point, they don't deserve the attention I give them. It's sad really.

[bballer]

Hopefully not.

This shitty league needs to tank and start from scratch.

[icewill36]

if not, the players are dumber than i could have ever imagined.

[SunsCaptain]

2012: NBA players destroy the the world.

:cry:

[boozehound]

There isn't much out there that suggests to me that the union will accept this deal. I am prepared to let go of any hope for the season being played at all, and I'm not sure I really care that much anymore.

I love the NBA, and have been a loyal fan for 30 years, but this whole process has just really turned me off to the league, both players and owners. That doesn't mean I'll quit watching or never go to another game again, but I doubt I'll ever have the same passion for the league that I used to. At this point, they don't deserve the attention I give them. It's sad really.
they dont seem to realize that they have nowhere near the casual fan appeal/ drawback of the nfl. If this is an ugly, lost season after a wildly popular post season (and media hyped season of the big three), they will have knocked back their popularity gains (and profits) for half a decade IMO.

[Rab]

they dont seem to realize that they have nowhere near the casual fan appeal/ drawback of the nfl. If this is an ugly, lost season after a wildly popular post season (and media hyped season of the big three), they will have knocked back their popularity gains (and profits) for half a decade IMO.
You're exactly right. After finally gaining some momentum and hype, they'll risk losing it all with the snap of a finger, and then some. It will take years to recover.

[AMISTILLILL]

It's hard to say. Even these initial reports of the players expected to reject the current offer can't be trusted, since the same sources were the guys elated over the "lockout being 95% over" a week or two back and filling everyone's heads with ideas that the season was ready to begin.

Honestly, I don't think it ends tomorrow. I think we'll continue with this back and forth garbage, Stern will lower the offer, the players will bitch and complain and eventually it will get pushed back up to either a 50-50 or a 51-49 in favor of the players weeks/months down the line. At that point, the chances of even having a season will be shot altogether.

[PJR]

There's just one sticking point, and that's the usage of the mid-level exception for tax paying teams. Owners want it gone(along with sign & trades), players want it at the full 5 million with 4% raises.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

if the lockout ended tomorrow, when would the first game be? 2,3,4 weeks? a week?

edit: checked it out for the 98-99 season, they came to an agreement on 1/18/99, signed deal on the 20th and the first game was on feb 5th.

[SunsCaptain]

if the lockout ended tomorrow, when would the first game be? 2,3,4 weeks? a week?

I am guessing first days of December...since all games through november have been canceled...

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I am guessing first days of December...since all games through november have been canceled...
eh, stern cancelled games up until the all-star break during the other lockout, but they ended up playing 9 days before the all-star game.

[SunsCaptain]

eh, stern cancelled games up until the all-star break during the other lockout, but they ended up playing 9 days before the all-star game.

I would still think they play early december giving teams a chance to get in some practice, browse free agency, and make trades.

[Rab]

Stern has mentioned times that the league would need at least 30 days to prepare for a season. Remember they still need to go through free agency and a partial training camp, which I would think would include a couple pre-season games. As it stands right now, we're looking at mid December before the season could start.

[SunsCaptain]

Stern has mentioned times that the league would need at least 30 days to prepare for a season. Remember they still need to go through free agency and a partial training camp, which I would think would include a couple pre-season games. As it stands right now, we're looking at mid December before the season could start.


Dont forget media day!!!!

:cheers:

[Darius]

My feeling is no.

And that sucks.

I look forward to the NBA every year.

If/When the league does restart I'll still watch but we will have lost some serious momentum.

[DuMa]

the most sad thing is we are getting robbed of prime years for elite players.

[SunsCaptain]

the most sad thing is we are getting robbed of prime years for elite players.

And players like Steve Nash and Jason Kidd are getting robbed of their last years...

[outbreak]

I doubt it. Makes sense that they won't get a better offer but i don't think they'll cave now and so we won't get a season.

[Clutch]

My gut says YES.
Lockout will end tomorrow.

Usually I'm pessimistic but I have a good feeling about this one.
:facepalm

I was such a fool

[tomtucker]

Stern has mentioned times that the league would need at least 30 days to prepare for a season. Remember they still need to go through free agency and a partial training camp, which I would think would include a couple pre-season games. As it stands right now, we're looking at mid December before the season could start.

as long as the season starts before the x-mas games are played i am happy..........not a real christmas without Mariah and " All i want" NBA edition.....

[Dbrog]

Literally 100% the players say no. Season is lost because of the owners not bargaining in good faith. I personally guarantee the lockout will continue. I would bet my life savings on it.

[G-train]

Stephen A. put it best: For the fans, this is a potential doomsday.

What a drama queen he is.

[B-Low]

Even as a hardcore fan for 18+ years, I'm just losing interest now cuz of all this. I stopped reading the updates, stopped caring what each side had to say...

I don't think it's gonna end anytime soon and honestly i don't really care anymore. I just hope this all teaches both sides a lesson for the future

[swi7ch]

no lol :roll:

there will be no season this year... accept it already jesus christ :facepalm

[Bigsmoke]

i hope so.

[Vertical-24]

My gut feeling is yes. I really do believe we will have the season and that the Lockout will end tommorow. I try not to get my hopes up, but I am almost certain. If i'm wrong, i'm crying my ass off.

[Burgz]

My gut says YES.
Lockout will end tomorrow.

Usually I'm pessimistic but I have a good feeling about this one.

i wish i shared your optimism

[bdreason]

My prediction is no. Unfortunately it's looking like this season is going to be lost.

[madmax17]

No 100%.

[HylianNightmare]

nope

[ThemBombs]

smfh... **** everybody

[veilside23]

no it wont.... and it makes every fan sad.... one of the deadly sins is being practiced with this.. GREED :D

[SpecialQue]

My mind is telling me no, but my body, my body's telling me yes.

Anyhow, here's exactly how it's going to play out tomorrow. They're going to meet, sports reporters are going to update a ton of optimistic tweets, the two groups will exit hours later for a statement, and each side will talk about how badly they want the season to start, but unfortunately the other side was just unwilling to fairly compromise on a very important issue.

[GoRapz]

Rumor has it that the PA is willing to take the offer as long as they can tweak a few system issues i.e. sign and trades

[Fiasco]

Honestly, all I want to see is David Stern vs. Billy Hunter in a Money The Bank ladder match. Whoever gets the briefcase at the top of the ladder gets to decide how much of BRI goes to the players.

[knickscity]

Honestly, all I want to see is David Stern vs. Billy Hunter in a Money The Bank ladder match. Whoever gets the briefcase at the top of the ladder gets to decide how much of BRI goes to the players.
It isn't even about BRI anymore.

[MeLO MvP 15]

I read that the players will offer 50-50 tomorrow if they get some minor things on the system. Basically, the players are reversing the NBA's move and giving them all the pressure. Now it comes down to whether the NBA is actually willing to be gracious in their already massive win or keep running up the score.

[knightfall88]

I read that the players will offer 50-50 tomorrow if they get some minor things on the system. Basically, the players are reversing the NBA's move and giving them all the pressure. Now it comes down to whether the NBA is actually willing to be gracious in their already massive win or keep running up the score.

Thats bold. I am worried because I really don't think Stern was bluffing about the ultimatum. Lets hope I am wrong.

[GOATofGOATS]

I read that the players will offer 50-50 tomorrow if they get some minor things on the system. Basically, the players are reversing the NBA's move and giving them all the pressure. Now it comes down to whether the NBA is actually willing to be gracious in their already massive win or keep running up the score.

Yup, here's an article about that:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/basketball/nba-union-signals-a-shift-that-may-end-the-lockout.html

[T-Time3]

There will be no season.. sad.gif
+1
owners stay with their offer
players stay stupid and greedy

[Hiei]

If the season ends up being canceled I would love to hear what the players were thinking. Their accomplishments would be:

- Losing millions of dollars. Losing 100% profit this year would not be offset even if they get a 55-45% contract. ( Which they wont )

- Put thousands of people out of jobs and severely hurt many small businesses in urban areas that are already in horrible economic positions.

- Further hurt NBA's future, with NHL and even MLS rapidly growing in popularity compared to NBA

- Face harsh criticism from both media and fans for a long time

[AMISTILLILL]

This GIF about sums this whole thing up:
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lttgmucXLC1qzr7woo1_400.gif

[Fiasco]

It isn't even about BRI anymore.

http://femininesmark.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/femsmarktherockmic.jpg

"IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE BRI IS!!!!!"

[The_Yearning]

The players will accept it. They are too pu$$y not to.

[ukballer]

Not getting my hopes up.

[GoRapz]

Prediction: talks will resume on thursday as both sides think they are close to an agreement. Thursday rolls around shit just ****s up again and a season is lost.

[lilbill]

If the season ends up being canceled I would love to hear what the players were thinking. Their accomplishments would be:

- Losing millions of dollars. Losing 100% profit this year would not be offset even if they get a 55-45% contract. ( Which they wont )

- Put thousands of people out of jobs and severely hurt many small businesses in urban areas that are already in horrible economic positions.

- Further hurt NBA's future, with NHL and even MLS rapidly growing in popularity compared to NBA

- Face harsh criticism from both media and fans for a long time

This. It would be an irretrievably stupid move on their part.

[Joey Zaza]

If the report is accurrate about the players willing to go to 50-50 (though I read the articles and Fisher's statement, and I am not seeing that)--then this lockout ends soon. The "system" issues are BS.

[All Net]

Not getting my hopes up.
Same