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L8k3r5
11-13-2011, 11:27 PM
http://www.sportspad.org/images/kobebryantgettyjpg_54.jpg
Kobe goes OFF in the 3rd quarter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax42Lbc-igs
One of the greatest to ever play the game :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Mr. Bryant
11-13-2011, 11:29 PM
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Legends66NBA7
11-13-2011, 11:31 PM
I've seen this one before but thanks for the upload. When he's hot, forget about it.

RRR3
11-13-2011, 11:31 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause:

knickswin
11-13-2011, 11:36 PM
my boy Melo holds the record for most points in a quarter with George Gervin at 33.

L8k3r5
11-13-2011, 11:40 PM
my boy Melo holds the record for most points in a quarter with George Gervin at 33.
Melo is a great scorer as well. He can light it up from mid range very well. :bowdown: To Kobe and Melo

Jacks3
11-13-2011, 11:44 PM
Greatest "high-end" player ever. :bowdown:

knickswin
11-13-2011, 11:46 PM
Melo is a great scorer as well. He can light it up from mid range very well. :bowdown: To Kobe and Melo

alright. To Kobe and Melo! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0521/nba_g_anthony_bryant1_576.jpg

To Kobe being the most skilled scorer the league has ever seen!

To the haters one day recognizing that Carmelo Anthony is a b-a-l-l-a BALLA!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Carmelo Anthony is better than Lebron James and it is my greatest wish in life that he will one day prove that in a playoff series

triangleoffense
11-14-2011, 12:39 AM
alright. To Kobe and Melo! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/0521/nba_g_anthony_bryant1_576.jpg

To Kobe being the most skilled scorer the league has ever seen!

To the haters one day recognizing that Carmelo Anthony is a b-a-l-l-a BALLA!!! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

Carmelo Anthony is better than Lebron James and it is my greatest wish in life that he will one day prove that in a playoff series
lol where do you guys find these pictures..

Lucifer
11-14-2011, 12:40 AM
my boy Melo holds the record for most points in a quarter with George Gervin at 33.


Kobes done 25 plus in 1 quarter a ton of times. Melo's done it like what ONE time? *** outta here

LebronairJAMES
11-14-2011, 01:41 AM
http://www.sportspad.org/images/kobebryantgettyjpg_54.jpg
Kobe goes OFF in the 3rd quarter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ax42Lbc-igs
One of the greatest to ever play the game :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
:pimp:

32Dayz
11-14-2011, 01:46 AM
Didn't they lose this game? :lol

L8k3r5
11-14-2011, 02:15 AM
Didn't they lose this game? :lol
No, if you actually watched the video the Lakers won 132-102.

32Dayz
11-14-2011, 02:16 AM
No, if you actually watched the video the Lakers won 132-102.

I didnt watch it but I remember Kobe had some huge 50 point game.. oh wait it was probably against the grizzlies and LA lost.

Jacks3
11-14-2011, 02:18 AM
No, if you actually watched the video the Lakers won 132-102.
lol @ that moron.

L8k3r5
11-14-2011, 02:28 AM
lol @ that moron.
It's just his way of trying to troll the thread. Just ignore him

32Dayz
11-14-2011, 02:35 AM
Kobe
2006-04-07 = 51points LA Loss to PHO
2006-01-19 = 51point LA Loss to SAC
2005-11-27 = 46points (37% shooting) LA Loss to NJN :oldlol:
2005-12-28 = 45points (35% shooting) LA Loss to Memphis :oldlol:
2006-03-06 = 43points LA Loss to SAS
2005-11-20 = 43points LA Loss to CHI
2006-04-06 = 42points (39% shooting) LA Loss to Denver :oldlol:
2006-01-11 = 41points LA Loss to Portland
2006-02-26 = 40points LA Loss to Boston

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Deuce Bigalow
11-14-2011, 02:47 AM
Kobe
2006-04-07 = 51points LA Loss to PHO
2006-01-19 = 51point LA Loss to SAC
2005-11-27 = 46points (37% shooting) LA Loss to NJN :oldlol:
2005-12-28 = 45points (35% shooting) LA Loss to Memphis :oldlol:
2006-03-06 = 43points LA Loss to SAS
2005-11-20 = 43points LA Loss to CHI
2006-04-06 = 42points (39% shooting) LA Loss to Denver :oldlol:
2006-01-11 = 41points LA Loss to Portland
2006-02-26 = 40points LA Loss to Boston

:applause: :applause: :applause:

you're pathetic

32Dayz
11-14-2011, 02:48 AM
you're pathetic

http://images.wikia.com/callofduty/images/2/20/Kobe-U-Mad.jpg

The Truth always hurts Bro.

L8k3r5
11-14-2011, 03:00 AM
http://images.wikia.com/callofduty/images/2/20/Kobe-U-Mad.jpg

The Truth always hurts Bro.
http://i25.tinypic.com/euh7yw.jpg
U JELLY?

32Dayz
11-14-2011, 03:07 AM
Kobe -

2006-04-07 = 51points LA Loss to PHO
2006-01-19 = 51point LA Loss to SAC
2005-11-27 = 46points (37% shooting) LA Loss to NJN :oldlol:
2005-12-28 = 45points (35% shooting) LA Loss to Memphis :oldlol:
2006-03-06 = 43points LA Loss to SAS
2005-11-20 = 43points LA Loss to CHI
2006-04-06 = 42points (39% shooting) LA Loss to Denver :oldlol:
2006-01-11 = 41points LA Loss to Portland
2006-02-26 = 40points LA Loss to Boston
2006-02-24 = 39points (40% shooting) LA Loss to Clippers :oldlol:
2006-02-15 = 39points LA Loss to ATL
2006-01-29 = 39points (41% shooting) LA Loss to Detroit :oldlol:
2005-11-03 = 39points LA Loss to PHX
2006-03-19 = 38points LA Loss to Cleveland (Lebron > Kobe?)
2006-01-20 = 37points (36% shooting) LA Loss to PHO :oldlol:
2005-12-25 = 37points (40% shooting) LA Loss to Miami :oldlol:
2005-11-18 = 36points (34% shooting) LA Loss to Clippers :oldlol:
2006-03-01 = 35points (37% shooting) LA Loss to Portland :oldlol:
2006-02-04 = 35points LA Loss to NOK - 7 Turnovers
2006-02-03 = 35points LA Loss to Charlotte - 7 Turnovers
2005-12-10 = 35points LA Loss to Minnesota - 7 Turnovers
2005-12-26 = 31points (37% shooting) LA Loss to WAS :oldlol:
2006-03-14 = 30points LA Loss to SAC

Ultimate Chucker!

L8k3r5
11-14-2011, 03:08 AM
Kobe
2006-04-07 = 51points LA Loss to PHO
2006-01-19 = 51point LA Loss to SAC
2005-11-27 = 46points (37% shooting) LA Loss to NJN :oldlol:
2005-12-28 = 45points (35% shooting) LA Loss to Memphis :oldlol:
2006-03-06 = 43points LA Loss to SAS
2005-11-20 = 43points LA Loss to CHI
2006-04-06 = 42points (39% shooting) LA Loss to Denver :oldlol:
2006-01-11 = 41points LA Loss to Portland
2006-02-26 = 40points LA Loss to Boston
2006-02-24 = 39points (40% shooting) LA Loss to Clippers :oldlol:
2006-02-15 = 39points LA Loss to ATL
2006-01-29 = 39points (41% shooting) LA Loss to Detroit :oldlol:
2005-11-03 = 39points LA Loss to PHX
2006-03-19 = 38points LA Loss to Cleveland (Lebron > Kobe?)
2006-01-20 = 37points (36% shooting) LA Loss to PHO :oldlol:

2005-12-25 = 37points (40% shooting) LA Loss to Miami :oldlol: (Wade > Kobe?)

2005-11-18 = 36points (34% shooting) LA Loss to Clippers :oldlol:

2006-03-01 = 35points (37% shooting) LA Loss to Portland :oldlol:

2006-02-04 = 35points LA Loss to NOK - 7 Turnovers
2006-02-03 = 35points LA Loss to Charlotte - 7 Turnovers
2005-12-10 = 35points LA Loss to Minnesota - 7 Turnovers
2005-12-26 = 31points (37% shooting) LA Loss to WAS :oldlol:

2006-03-14 = 30points LA Loss to SAC
Put up some games where he won as well with high scoring numbers please

32Dayz
11-14-2011, 03:17 AM
Put up some games where he won as well with high scoring numbers please

That is from the 2006 Season.

Kobe had 56 games where he scored 30+ in 2006.
Wins = 33
Losses = 23

Jacks3
11-14-2011, 03:24 AM
Put up some games where he won as well with high scoring numbers please
Don't bother with that moron. The Lakers do excellent in his high-scoring games.

When scoring 40+(107 games)
-45.4 PPG
-6.1 RPG
-4.1 APG
-1.8 SPG
-0.6 BPG
-51.0% from the field
-44.2% from downtown
-85.7% from the line
-59.4 TS%
-Lakers went 73-34(.682)

When scoring 50+(23 games)
-54.9 PPG
-6.4 RPG
-3.4 APG
-1.6 SPG
-0.5 BPG
-54.0% from the field
-47.2% from downtown
-89.3% from the line
-62.2 TS%
-Lakers went 17-6(.739)

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

D-Wade316
11-14-2011, 03:31 AM
Don't bother with that moron. The Lakers do excellent in his high-scoring games.

When scoring 40+(107 games)
-45.4 PPG
-6.1 RPG
-4.1 APG
-1.8 SPG
-0.6 BPG
-51.0% from the field
-44.2% from downtown
-85.7% from the line
-59.4 TS%
-Lakers went 73-34(.682)

When scoring 50+(23 games)
-54.9 PPG
-6.4 RPG
-3.4 APG
-1.6 SPG
-0.5 BPG
-54.0% from the field
-47.2% from downtown
-89.3% from the line
-62.2 TS%
-Lakers went 17-6(.739)

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
I appreciate you for giving those stats, but, man, Kobe has consumed your life. :facepalm

32Dayz
11-14-2011, 03:32 AM
Don't bother with that moron. The Lakers do excellent in his high-scoring games.

Part of 2007

2006-12-29 = 58points LA Loss to Charlotte
2007-03-30 = 53points (41% shooting) LA Loss to HOU - LoL
2007-04-12 = 50points LA Loss to Clippers
2006-12-17 = 45points LA Loss to WAS
2007-03-06 = 40points LA Loss to Minnesota
2007-04-03 = 39points LA Loss to Denver
2007-02-11 = 36points LA Loss to CLE - (Lebron > Kobe?)
2007-04-08 = 34points LA Loss to PHO - 7

2007-02-15 = 34points (40% shooting) LA Loss to CLE - Lebron > Kobe?) - 6 Turnovers

2006-12-13 = 33points LA Loss to Dallas
2007-01-26 = 33points (40% shooting) LA Loss to Charlotte - 9 Turnovers
2008-01-31 = 39points - 11 Turnovers | LA Loss to DET

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

:eek:

monkeypox
11-14-2011, 04:28 AM
I didnt watch it but I remember Kobe had some huge 50 point game.. oh wait it was probably against the grizzlies and LA lost.

Yeah isn't it insane that he does stuff like this so often you can't even keep track?

Jacks3
11-14-2011, 04:41 AM
Yeah isn't it insane that he does stuff like this so often you can't even keep track?
:applause:

Jacks3
11-14-2011, 04:42 AM
Wade has consumed and devoured my life.
That sucks bro.

Nash-tastic
11-14-2011, 11:11 AM
I appreciate you for giving those stats, but, man, Kobe has consumed your life. :facepalm
Same could be said for 32Dayz, no? :confusedshrug:

32Dayz
11-14-2011, 11:13 AM
Same could be said for 32Dayz, no? :confusedshrug:

Not really, I just mock the Ultra Obsessed and Ultra Annoying Kobe Homers.

The normal Realistic Kobe fans dont bother me at all and I dont have anything personal against Kobe himself.

----------------------------------------------

BTW @ L8k3r5

I fixed your picture to reflect what Kobe actually accomplished in his Career. (Legitmately)

http://i43.tinypic.com/23i6iox.jpg

Gasol's 2010 FMVP has been removed
CP3's 2008 MVP has been removed.

The rest is fine.

HylianNightmare
11-14-2011, 11:29 AM
monster

7_cody
11-14-2011, 12:30 PM
Not really, I just mock the Ultra Obsessed and Ultra Annoying Kobe Homers.

The normal Realistic Kobe fans dont bother me at all and I dont have anything personal against Kobe himself.

----------------------------------------------

BTW @ L8k3r5

I fixed your picture to reflect what Kobe actually accomplished in his Career. (Legitmately)

http://i43.tinypic.com/23i6iox.jpg

Gasol's 2010 FMVP has been removed
CP3's 2008 MVP has been removed.

The rest is fine.

You know what it means if you take Kobe off team in the Finals v. the Celtics, right? Do you know who the opponents defense was built around? Which player they wanted to stop?

You're an idiot. Quit overrating the f*** out of Pau Gasol. God you're f***ng stupid as hell.

Ignore this troll. He provides no reliable information, no basketball knowledge.

AlphaWolf24
11-14-2011, 12:36 PM
The GAWD!!:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: Greatest there is ...Greatest there was...Greatest there ever will be....


Thank Based Lordbe....I was present

madmax
11-14-2011, 12:56 PM
Kobe
2006-04-07 = 51points LA Loss to PHO
2006-01-19 = 51point LA Loss to SAC
2005-11-27 = 46points (37% shooting) LA Loss to NJN :oldlol:
2005-12-28 = 45points (35% shooting) LA Loss to Memphis :oldlol:
2006-03-06 = 43points LA Loss to SAS
2005-11-20 = 43points LA Loss to CHI
2006-04-06 = 42points (39% shooting) LA Loss to Denver :oldlol:
2006-01-11 = 41points LA Loss to Portland
2006-02-26 = 40points LA Loss to Boston

:applause: :applause: :applause:

the biggest statpadder and team cancer ever:cheers: :applause: :applause: :applause:

32Dayz
11-14-2011, 01:11 PM
You know what it means if you take Kobe off team in the Finals v. the Celtics, right? Do you know who the opponents defense was built around? Which player they wanted to stop?

You're an idiot. Quit overrating the f*** out of Pau Gasol. God you're f***ng stupid as hell.


#1.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm217/Allume-Le-Cirque/Sig/Kobe-U-Mad.jpg

#2. The opponents defense was focused on stopping the Lakers, Gasol was doubled just as much as Kobe in the Finals.

#3. LA ran the offense through the Post at home.
LA won 3/4 Games @ Home.
Gasol was by far the best player for LA in every single home game and he was the teams playmaker averaging 5APG compared to Kobe who only had 3APG.

#4. Gasol was the teams defense anchor.

Quit overrating the F*** out of 2010 Bryant and underrating Peak Gasol. Pau was legitimately more valuable then Kobe in the 2010 playoffs and was certainly better in the Finals. Kobe shot jacked and got some nice ppg despite shooting 37% in the 4 Finals wins but he sure as hell didnt deserve the FMVP. Its just sad that a guy as great as Gasol will never get 1/2 the recognition he deserves for his play and impact while Kobe will continously be overrated by D.Stern (since the league makes money by pushing its stars) and the average idiotic fans who only see 5 Rings and dont see the amazing players and teams he's been on.

No one wants to root for the european player with weird shaggy hair but the fact is he was arguably the MVP of the 2010 Playoffs and definitely earned (deserved) the FMVP. Several respected Journalists have stated he had a strong case for the Award.

Legends66NBA7
11-14-2011, 01:19 PM
Tell me who negged me for saying something positive about this performance ?

Whoever you are... you shut up. :violin:

AlphaWolf24
11-14-2011, 01:33 PM
Tell me who negged me for saying something positive about this performance ?

Whoever you are... you shut up. :violin:


welcome to our club...


say anything positive about Kobe = instant neg....:lol


:cheers:

Droid101
11-14-2011, 02:21 PM
#2. The opponents defense was focused on stopping the Lakers, Gasol was doubled just as much as Kobe in the Finals.
.
Someone who clearly didn't watch that series (or any Laker game from the sound of it).

Deuce Bigalow
11-14-2011, 02:23 PM
#1.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm217/Allume-Le-Cirque/Sig/Kobe-U-Mad.jpg

#2. The opponents defense was focused on stopping the Lakers, Gasol was doubled just as much as Kobe in the Finals.

#3. LA ran the offense through the Post at home.
LA won 3/4 Games @ Home.
Gasol was by far the best player for LA in every single home game and he was the teams playmaker averaging 5APG compared to Kobe who only had 3APG.

#4. Gasol was the teams defense anchor.

Quit overrating the F*** out of 2010 Bryant and underrating Peak Gasol. Pau was legitimately more valuable then Kobe in the 2010 playoffs and was certainly better in the Finals. Kobe shot jacked and got some nice ppg despite shooting 37% in the 4 Finals wins but he sure as hell didnt deserve the FMVP. Its just sad that a guy as great as Gasol will never get 1/2 the recognition he deserves for his play and impact while Kobe will continously be overrated by D.Stern (since the league makes money by pushing its stars) and the average idiotic fans who only see 5 Rings and dont see the amazing players and teams he's been on.

No one wants to root for the european player with weird shaggy hair but the fact is he was arguably the MVP of the 2010 Playoffs and definitely earned (deserved) the FMVP. Several respected Journalists have stated he had a strong case for the Award.

:roll:

obvious troll is obvious

L8k3r5
11-15-2011, 02:30 AM
Not really, I just mock the Ultra Obsessed and Ultra Annoying Kobe Homers.

The normal Realistic Kobe fans dont bother me at all and I dont have anything personal against Kobe himself.

----------------------------------------------

BTW @ L8k3r5

I fixed your picture to reflect what Kobe actually accomplished in his Career. (Legitmately)

http://i43.tinypic.com/23i6iox.jpg

Gasol's 2010 FMVP has been removed
CP3's 2008 MVP has been removed.

The rest is fine.
:oldlol: :no:

7_cody
11-15-2011, 03:44 AM
#1.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm217/Allume-Le-Cirque/Sig/Kobe-U-Mad.jpg

#2. The opponents defense was focused on stopping the Lakers, Gasol was doubled just as much as Kobe in the Finals.

#3. LA ran the offense through the Post at home.
LA won 3/4 Games @ Home.
Gasol was by far the best player for LA in every single home game and he was the teams playmaker averaging 5APG compared to Kobe who only had 3APG.

#4. Gasol was the teams defense anchor.

Quit overrating the F*** out of 2010 Bryant and underrating Peak Gasol. Pau was legitimately more valuable then Kobe in the 2010 playoffs and was certainly better in the Finals. Kobe shot jacked and got some nice ppg despite shooting 37% in the 4 Finals wins but he sure as hell didnt deserve the FMVP. Its just sad that a guy as great as Gasol will never get 1/2 the recognition he deserves for his play and impact while Kobe will continously be overrated by D.Stern (since the league makes money by pushing its stars) and the average idiotic fans who only see 5 Rings and dont see the amazing players and teams he's been on.

No one wants to root for the european player with weird shaggy hair but the fact is he was arguably the MVP of the 2010 Playoffs and definitely earned (deserved) the FMVP. Several respected Journalists have stated he had a strong case for the Award.

Several respected journalists have stated that he had a strong case for the award? Is that supposed to mean something?

Gasol is very popular in LA. Lots of people want to root for him. What kind of garbage is that? Pathetic excuse.

Gasol was not doubled. The Celtics game planned to stop Kobe, such as their Box and 1 defensive format to stop Kobe that is geared towards only Kobe. You're lying. Gasol does not get double teamed. He guarded like any other role player.

Kobe has been on amazing teams? Let me guess, Andrew Bynum is the best center in the league, Pau Gasol is a top 2 big man in the league, and Lamar Odom is a top 5 forward in the league. You seriously believe this garbage? None of it is true.

The only reliable information you provided was Kobe's field goal percentage. Unfortunately, that's only a small part of the story.

LA did no run the offense through the post at home. Did you watch the games? LA did the same 2-3 variances that it always does, and it includes either Kobe cutting at the wing or posting at the elbow. It's called the triangle offense. We don't run our plays through Pau Gasol or Bynum, it's all done through Kobe. Watch the games.

Look beyond the statistics, but then again, you think that Doc Rivers game planned his defense to stop Pau Gasol, not Kobe Bryant.

Since you love statistics so much,

Kobe Bryant 2010 Playoffs
29.2 PPG on 46% shooting, 6 RPG and 5.5 APG

Pau Gasol 2010 Playoffs
19.6 PPG on 53% shooting, 11 RPG and 3.5 APG

What about the game that matters most? Everyone had a poor shooting night, including Pau Gasol (well, everyone did in the series really). Artest is probably MVP of just game 7, but it's Kobe that shouldered the offense and rebounded extraordinarily well for a guard.

Who was being double and triple teamed? Never Gasol. Why does this matter? if I have to explain it to you, you're an idiot. I'll give you a hint, Kobe has teammates. It's 5 on 5. Do the math.

In the Finals only,

Kobe 29 PPG on 40% shooting, 8 RPG and 4 (3.9) APG
Pau Gasol 19 PPG on 48% shooting, 11 RPB and 4 (3.7) APG

Even the stats favor kobe, except shooting %, then you have common sense, watching the game, seeing his impact, watching the defense, listening to the opponents game plan, knowing a f***ing thing about Basketball, actually watching the series, and other factors that make this obvious.

I just realized you probably weren't being series. Am I being trolled? You were joking right? You don't really believe that Pau is/was more valuable to the Lakers than Kobe?

32Dayz
11-15-2011, 03:54 AM
I certainly do believe Gasol was MV to the Lakers over the entirety of the playoffs.

When you factor in efficiency/rebounding and even TO's Kobe is not superior to Gasol in Production.

Acting like efficiency doesn't matter is just plain stupid so I wont go further into that.

Gasol was equal to Kobe over the entirety of the playoffs in Production.
Gasol was equal to Kobe over the entirety of the Finals in Production.
Gasol had far better intangibles then Kobe over the entire playoffs and just in general.
Gasol was far superior to Kobe in overall Production in the 4 LA Home Games and 3/4 Games LA won in the Finals. (Stats Below)



Lets look at how both Gasol and Kobe performed in the 4 Laker Wins (2010 Finalz)

Kobe
26.5 PPG
10 RPG
3.75 APG
37%FG
2 SPG

Gasol
19 PPG
14 RPG (6 Offensive Rebounds Per Game)
5 APG
46%FG
2.5 BPG


The Lakers run the "Triangle 0ffense" which involves creating space on the elbow near the 3point line and passing the ball down into the post. LA ran the ball through Gasol in the post in the LA Home games. Kobe iso'd alot more and took shots outside the 0ffense on the road which (imo) stagnated the 0ffense and hurt the team.

It was obvious not only by watching the games that the 0ffense was being run through Gasol in 3/4 LA Wins at home since Gasol led the team in Assists 5APG and was by far the teams best play maker in those games.

Gasol would regularly (not always) get doubled in the post and pass out to Kobe or the other Lakers and that's why he piled up so many assists.

Kobe would only be doubled when he drove into the paint or occasionally in the midrange area. He was never doubled out on the perimeter.

If you dont even know what 0ffensive sets LA runs you probably shouldn't be arguing with me about anything.

So again.
Gasol was better in 4/7 Finalz Games.
Gasol was better in 4/4 Home Games in the Finalz.
Gasol was the team defensive anchor and far more impactful defensively then Kobe was.

Why exactly doesn't Gasol have a fair and reasonable case for the FMVP.

The fact that several respected journalists said he had a strong case for the Award doesn't technically mean anything but it does support my opinion that he deserved it obviously since I am far from the only one who thought so.

7_cody
11-15-2011, 04:01 AM
I certainly do believe Gasol was MV to the Lakers over the entirety of the playoffs.

When you factor in efficiency/rebounding and even TO's Kobe is not superior to Gasol in Production.

Acting like efficiency doesn't matter is just plain stupid so I wont go further into that.

Gasol was equal to Kobe over the entirety of the playoffs in Production.
Gasol was equal to Kobe over the entirety of the Finals in Production.
Gasol had far better intangibles then Kobe over the entire playoffs and just in general.
Gasol was far superior to Kobe in overall Production in the 4 LA Home Games and 3/4 Games LA won in the Finals. (Stats Below)



The Lakers run the "Triangle 0ffense" which involves creating space on the elbow near the 3point line and passing the ball down into the post. LA ran the ball through Gasol in the post in the LA Home games. Kobe iso'd alot more and took shots outside the 0ffense on the road which (imo) stagnated the 0ffense and hurt the team.

It was obvious not only by watching the games that the 0ffense was being run through Gasol in 3/4 LA Wins at home since Gasol led the team in Assists 5APG and was by far the teams best play maker in those games.

Gasol would regularly (not always) get doubled in the post and pass out to Kobe or the other Lakers and that's why he piled up so many assists.

If you dont even know what 0ffense sets LA runs you probably shouldn't be arguing with me about anything.

So again.
Gasol was better in 4/7 Finalz Games.
Gasol was better in 4/4 Home Games in the Finalz.
Gasol was the team defensive anchor and far more impactful defensively then Kobe was.

Why exactly doesn't Gasol have a fair and reasonable case for the FMVP.

The fact that several respected journalists said he had a strong case for the Award doesn't technically mean anything but it does support my opinion that he deserved it obviously since I am far from the only one who thought so.

You haven't provided anything new. Quit repeating the same garbage.

How do I not know what offense the Lakers play? I said it in my prior post. Want to take a challenge? I'll break down the Lakers offense in the next five minutes if you do, and lets see who understands it more.

We never ran our offense through Pau. We always try to play inside-out, but our offense has always been through Kobe. Phil modified the triangle and started running his offense through Kobe after Shaq left.

Pau did not get get a crap load of assists. He also did not get them because he was getting double teamed. He got them because he's a good passer for a big man and was able to find open shooters in the triangle.

How did Gasol have better intangibles? Care to explain?

What about impact?

How is a big man averaging 11 RPG more efficient than a guard averaging 8?

Good god, you're dumb as hell. You have no reliable information. I can't take you seriously when you won't even post the correct stats.

32Dayz
11-15-2011, 04:08 AM
Better intagibals = Gasol is an amazing shot blocker and was by far the best defender for LA and the most impactful defensively.

Already forgot that huge block on Pierce with 2 minutes left in G7 or how he constantly got between 2-4 BPG over the playoffs and regularly played good defense on opposing PF's?

What intangibles does Kobe have... not many.

I watched the games and they ran the 0ffense inside/out at the staples center.
Bryant would also ISO and try to score by himself and (occasionally) try to create for others but he and the roleplayers would also feed Gasol in the post to let him score or create.

I watched the games and he was doubled so I suggest you rewatch them if you disagree.

I posted the stats from the 4 Wins.
Gasol was clearly better then Bryant in the 4 Wins and in 4/7 Games in the Finals and was far more impactful defensively. Not to mention him being better in G6 and far better in G7 where his Clutch play in the Final 3 Minutes single handedly saved the Lakers from defeat.

Again here are the stats below from the 4 Laker Wins in the 2010 Finalz.


Lets look at how both Gasol and Kobe performed in the 4 Laker Wins (2010 Finalz)

Kobe
26.5 PPG
10 RPG
3.75 APG
37%FG
2 SPG

Gasol
19 PPG
14 RPG (6 Offensive Rebounds Per Game)
5 APG
46%FG
2.5 BPG

I know it bothers you that Kobe isnt this GOAT player who surpassed Jordan that could carry the team all by himself but you gotta face reality dude. Gasol and Kobe were pretty much neck and neck in importance to that team that year and Gasol has a strong case for FMVP.

Anyway I've explained all my points to the death, if you still disagree thats fine but I'm done commenting on this stuff.

Go polish your Kobe figurines.

BTW do you know that although Kobe only got 1 more assist then Gasol over the course of the entire Finals he had like 20-40 more turnovers?

7_cody
11-15-2011, 04:24 AM
What you're saying is great and all, but the fact that Doc Rivers and every other opponent game plan their defense towards Kobe and not Pau Gasol means a lot more than petty statistics that hardly even favor Pau. I'm sure these NBA Coaches know more basketball then you and I, and they would have a good reason for doing so. Go youtube press conferences. Watch the games, listen to what the Coaches and assistant coaches are saying at half time. They never talk about shutting down Pau or holding him to a low percentage. I'm not sure what game you were watching either, I disagree, Pau Gasol was hardly ever doubled.

I didn't know the turnover thing, but it makes sense since Kobe is not a point guard, and he is also not a forward.

I don't think Kobe > MJ, but I also don't think MJ was god. MJ was a lot like Kobe, but people don't want to see it. He often shot poorly. He often disrupted team offense going iso. But both are so impactful in the game and require so much attention and resources.

Pau Gasol is not on the same level as prime Shaq, or even a 40 year old MJ for that matter (exaggeration on the last part, as a team owner I'd take prime Pau over 40 year old MJ). You get my point.

Deuce Bigalow
11-15-2011, 04:28 AM
32dayz = :mad:

http://www.femiajets.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/da4e317cbb3e0d55ae4444d54ccdbc68-getty-99856385mw134_nba_finals_ga.jpg

32Dayz
11-15-2011, 04:44 AM
@ 7Cody

its all good man, just my observations and opinions I dont expect everyone to agree with me.

I did see the offense run through Gasol in the post like you would do normally in the triangle offense and I did watch him create at times for others and also score plenty by himself.

I dont know Doc Rivers personally or his game plans so I can only watch the games and judge for myself how they were defending LA.

I personally think Gasol was more valuable over the entire Finals series especially due to his play in the 4 Wins and in G6 and G7 but for those who feel differently its fine.

Obviously for those who are player fans of Kobe I wouldn't expect them to feel comfortable agreeing with this as they most likely choose to view Gasol as a roleplayer and not a Legit Star since it enhances their view and opinion of Kobe.

Deuce Bigalow
11-15-2011, 04:51 AM
@ 7Cody

its all good man, just my observations and opinions I dont expect everyone to agree with me.

I did see the offense run through Gasol in the post like you would do normally in the triangle offense and I did watch him create at times for others and also score plenty by himself.

I dont know Doc Rivers personally or his game plans so I can only watch the games and judge for myself how they were defending LA.

I personally think Gasol was more valuable over the entire Finals series especially due to his play in the 4 Wins and in G6 and G7 but for those who feel differently its fine.

Obviously for those who are player fans of Kobe I wouldn't expect them to feel comfortable agreeing with this as they most likely choose to view Gasol as a roleplayer and not a Legit Star since it enhances their view and opinion of Kobe.


not true, Gasol played great in the '09 and '10 Playoffs, and an elite player, not a superstar of course but a good allstar
I like Gasol, and when he plays right the Lakers are 2/2 in championships when Kobe and Pau play elite basketball together

7_cody
11-15-2011, 04:55 AM
@ 7Cody

its all good man, just my observations and opinions I dont expect everyone to agree with me.

I did see the offense run through Gasol in the post like you would do normally in the triangle offense and I did watch him create at times for others and also score plenty by himself.

I dont know Doc Rivers personally or his game plans so I can only watch the games and judge for myself how they were defending LA.

I personally think Gasol was more valuable over the entire Finals series especially due to his play in the 4 Wins and in G6 and G7 but for those who feel differently its fine.

Obviously for those who are player fans of Kobe I wouldn't expect them to feel comfortable agreeing with this as they most likely choose to view Gasol as a roleplayer and not a Legit Star since it enhances their view and opinion of Kobe.

You didn't say this specifically, but you might have implied it -- I never said or thought Gasol is a roleplayer. He's an elite player, but he's no Kobe, MJ, Shaq, nothing. What I did say is that he's guarded like a role player.

Either way, thanks for being a good sport, unfortunately I do not agree with you at all about Gasol being more valuable. Could we have won without him? Absolutely not. Without kobe? Hell no! Gasol would have struggled, shot horribly trying to lead this team, it would have been epic failure, and suddenly Kobe's great amazingly stacked team because known for what it really is, 2 great players, a couple very good roleplayers, and that's it. Not to mention one of the worst starting point guards in the NBA. Overrall, Kobe's supporting cast is very, very overrated.

eliteballer
11-15-2011, 04:56 AM
LOL, this is right after he came back from knee surgery and got hung on the rim a game or two before :oldlol: He had something to prove.

32Dayz
11-15-2011, 05:00 AM
I dunno, I think a frontline of Gasol/Bynum and Odom is pretty impressive especially in 2010 where Bynum was healthy and could contribute consistently. They have also had some solid guards like Artest, Ariza etc.

I agree Peak/Prime Gasol is certainly not comparable to Prime Kobe, Shaq or players of that level but I dont think 2010 Kobe was
"Prime Kobe" anymore.
Kobe was beginning to decline in 2010 and Gasol was hitting his Prime/Peak which is why I think they were somewhat close in contributions to the team that year.

I also disagree that Gasol was treated like a roleplayer defensively as I dont think Boston viewed him as that type of player but instead as LA's 2nd Star / 0ffensive option.

D-Wade316
11-15-2011, 10:40 AM
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:lol

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macpierce
11-15-2011, 12:09 PM
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you mean lebron? he completed destroyed the heat's chances of a championship last season and CHECK MY $TATS.

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