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Euroleague
11-15-2011, 02:49 PM
According to recent news medias in Europe, the following NBA players are now likely to sign with Euroleague teams soon.........


1. Manu Ginobili - Galatasaray (Euroleague)

2. Hedo Turkoglu - Fenerbahce (Euroleague)

3. Omer Asik - Fenerbahce (Euroleague)

4. Pau Gasol - Barcelona (Euroleague)

5. Marc Gasol -Barcelona (Euroleague)

6. Jose Calderon - Barcelona (Euroleague)

7. Omri Casspi - Maccabi (Euroleague)


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While the following NBA players are said to be ready to play in the lower level competition, the Eurocup.


1. Kevin Durant - Valencia (second tier Eurocup)

2. Dirk Nowitzki - Bayern (second tier Eurocup)

3. Tiago Splitter - Valencia (second tier Eurocup)


Apparently, Durant and Dirk are chickens and are too afraid to play in the top level of Euroleague, just like Tony Parker and Deron Williams are also apparently too chicken to play in Euroleague.

creepingdeath
11-15-2011, 03:06 PM
According to recent news medias in Europe, the following NBA players are now likely to sign with Euroleague teams soon.........


1. Manu Ginobili - Galatasaray (Euroleague)

2. Hedo Turkoglu - Fenerbahce (Euroleague)

3. Omer Asik - Fenerbahce (Euroleague)

4. Pau Gasol - Barcelona (Euroleague)

5. Marc Gasol -Barcelona (Euroleague)

6. Jose Calderon - Barcelona (Euroleague)

7. Omri Casspi - Maccabi (Euroleague)

8. Tiago Splitter - Maccabi (Euroleague)

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While the following NBA players are said to be ready to play in the lower level competition, the Eurocup.


1. Kevin Durant - Valencia (second tier Eurocup)

2. Dirk Nowitzki - Bayern (second tier Eurocup)


Apparently, Durant and Dirk are chickens and are too afraid to play in the top level of Euroleague, just like Tony Parker and Deron Williams are also apparently too chicken to play in Euroleague.
Dirk won't play in Germany.

rodman91
11-15-2011, 03:10 PM
Apparently, Durant and Dirk are chickens and are too afraid to play in the top level of Euroleague, just like Tony Parker and Deron Williams are also apparently too chicken to play in Euroleague.

Durant = FIBA MVP

Dirk = FIBA MVP,Eurobasket MVP,7 time european basketball of the year.

Tony Parker = European player of the year

You = Crazed Troll

Euroleague
11-15-2011, 03:20 PM
Durant = FIBA MVP

Dirk = FIBA MVP,Eurobasket MVP,7 time european basketball of the year.

Tony Parker = European player of the year

You = Crazed Troll

If they are so great why are they afraid of playing in Europe's best league?

Euroleague
11-15-2011, 03:21 PM
Dirk won't play in Germany.

Reports are he already tried to sign with Panathinaikos, but they don't want to spend any money on him and that supposedly, his next choice then is Bayern.

Fatal9
11-15-2011, 03:23 PM
Wouldn't even care about missing NBA if these players and more go over to Europe. Two leagues to watch (plus the domestic leagues) and NCAA? I'll get my basketball fix in.

Rooster
11-15-2011, 03:24 PM
Reports are he already tried to sign with Panathinaikos, but they don't want to spend any money on him and that supposedly, his next choice then is Bayern.


Not enough money

Can only afford Batiste

LMAO

rodman91
11-15-2011, 03:25 PM
If they are so great why are they afraid of playing in Europe's best league?

Who knows what's their deal... Are you saying Anthony Parker didn't afraid but Durant & Dirk do?:rolleyes:

R.I.P.
11-15-2011, 03:25 PM
Durant = FIBA MVP

Dirk = FIBA MVP,Eurobasket MVP,7 time european basketball of the year.

Tony Parker = European player of the year

You = Crazed Troll

:lol :roll:

Euroleague
11-15-2011, 03:27 PM
Not enough money

Can only afford Batiste

LMAO

Yeah, a team with a €26.5 million euros budget can't afford anyone...........

and they play different positions idiot.

Euroleague
11-15-2011, 03:30 PM
:lol :roll:

Navarro = FIBA MVP

Jasikevicius = FIBA MVP

At least they have the balls to play in Euroleague.

Euroleague
11-15-2011, 03:31 PM
Who knows what's their deal... Are you saying Anthony Parker didn't afraid but Durant & Dirk do?:rolleyes:

Obviously, if they choose not to play in Euroleague....then YES.

tpols
11-15-2011, 03:31 PM
How do you guys watch the euroleague from the U.S.?

Fatal9
11-15-2011, 03:32 PM
How do you guys watch the euroleague from the U.S.?

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/sport/basketball.html
http://www.hahasport.com/c-6.html

Rooster
11-15-2011, 03:38 PM
[QUOTE=Euroleague]Yeah, a team with a

chains5000
11-15-2011, 03:43 PM
While I'm sure both Gasols would love to play for Barcelona if there's a lockout, I'm just not sure if Barcelona should do it.
Sure, the team would get better, but what would happen the following season? The Gasol brothers would leave, and Barcelona's frontcourt would be really thin (it's not like they can keep on the injured list the players that would replaced by Pau and Marc).
Barcelona is a top candidate to win every FIBA trophy as it is, so why risk their future?

chains5000
11-15-2011, 03:45 PM
Also, there's no way Valencia gets Durant, considering they currently got no sponsor.

Euroleague
11-15-2011, 06:31 PM
Also, there's no way Valencia gets Durant, considering they currently got no sponsor.

Supposedly, Nike will pay him 6.5 million euros to play with Valencia.

Heavincent
11-15-2011, 06:33 PM
Nobody cares.

Euroleague
11-15-2011, 06:33 PM
While I'm sure both Gasols would love to play for Barcelona if there's a lockout, I'm just not sure if Barcelona should do it.
Sure, the team would get better, but what would happen the following season? The Gasol brothers would leave, and Barcelona's frontcourt would be really thin (it's not like they can keep on the injured list the players that would replaced by Pau and Marc).
Barcelona is a top candidate to win every FIBA trophy as it is, so why risk their future?

Players they need = Pau

Players they don't need at all = Marc and Calderon

They are weak at power forward, having just Wallace behind Lorbek. They could really use Pau. They don't need the other two guys at all though.

HylianNightmare
11-15-2011, 06:43 PM
that would be great

Locked_Up_Tonight
11-15-2011, 06:43 PM
Show me where Dirk is going to sign. I would like to read the article.

Euroleague
11-15-2011, 06:47 PM
Apparently, Linas Kleiza will also sign with Eurocup club Lietuvos Rytas.

Hyman
11-15-2011, 06:51 PM
Supposedly, Nike will pay him 6.5 million euros to play with Valencia.

:lol :cheers:

Nero Tulip
11-16-2011, 12:03 AM
Apparently, Durant and Dirk are chickens and are too afraid to play in the top level of Euroleague, just like Tony Parker and Deron Williams are also apparently too chicken to play in Euroleague.

Yeah, Tony is a chicken for playing for his own club for free, and Dirk, inarguably one of the 5 top players in the game, is afraid of the competition.

Why aren't you banned again?

ZenMaster
11-16-2011, 12:14 AM
Supposedly, Nike will pay him 6.5 million euros to play with Valencia.

What's in Valencia that Nike wants?

Jameerthefear
11-16-2011, 12:28 AM
Maybe if Hedo plays well in the Euroleague it will give him the confidence he needs to be good in the NBA. :confusedshrug:

c3z4r
11-16-2011, 12:30 AM
I remember there used to be a time when everybody on this forum used to call a certain poster NOLINKSYO the moment he created a thread......ah the good ol' times

kentatm
11-16-2011, 12:50 AM
Reports are he already tried to sign with Panathinaikos, but they don't want to spend any money on him and that supposedly, his next choice then is Bayern.


stop making shit up

Euroleague
11-16-2011, 02:58 PM
Yeah, Tony is a chicken for playing for his own club for free, and Dirk, inarguably one of the 5 top players in the game, is afraid of the competition.

Why aren't you banned again?

Parker does NOT "play for free". He is making 5 million euros from the club's sponsor to play there.

Why are YOU not banned for making up BS?

novocaine
11-16-2011, 03:05 PM
Reports are he already tried to sign with Panathinaikos, but they don't want to spend any money on him and that supposedly, his next choice then is Bayern.

i always thought u werent that of a troll, but with your posts in this thread, you just disqualified yourself.

what does dirk need to prove ? right, nothing.

if he signs in europe, only with djk w

Euroleague
11-16-2011, 03:11 PM
What's in Valencia that Nike wants?

Nike basically paid all of Childress' salary when he was in Olympiacos. What was there that they wanted?

Euroleague
11-16-2011, 03:13 PM
[QUOTE=novocaine]i always thought u werent that of a troll, but with your posts in this thread, you just disqualified yourself.

what does dirk need to prove ? right, nothing.

if he signs in europe, only with djk w

Locked_Up_Tonight
11-16-2011, 06:18 PM
I guess you didn't see my question:

Show me where Dirk is going to sign. I would like to read the article.

MaxFly
11-16-2011, 06:26 PM
If they are so great why are they afraid of playing in Europe's best league?

Do you honestly believe they are afraid? You're not trolling or anything. This is something you honestly believe?

ZenMaster
11-16-2011, 06:32 PM
Nike basically paid all of Childress' salary when he was in Olympiacos. What was there that they wanted?

You tell me, you're the one who's lying through your teeth.

el gringos
11-16-2011, 09:30 PM
If they are so great why are they afraid of playing in Europe's best league?
Because its all minor league bball to the nba players- if they are going to be playing minor league ball than its just for the team that gives them the most money- its not like the nba players care which minor league they play in, none are the nba

Euroleague
11-16-2011, 09:33 PM
Because its all minor league bball to the nba players- if they are going to be playing minor league ball than its just for the team that gives them the most money- its not like the nba players care which minor league they play in, none are the nba

The NBA is also a minor league then, since it pays most players less than they make in Europe.

RintjeRitsma
11-16-2011, 09:35 PM
All those NBA players are obviously scared for the stars of the Euroleague. (http://www.euroleague.net/competition/awards/awards-2011-12)

RintjeRitsma
11-16-2011, 09:41 PM
The NBA is also a minor league then, since it pays most players less than they make in Europe.

Making less money, yet they still all rather play in the best league when they get the chance. Who doesn't want to play in the NBA, Right? As Spanoulis once told us...

Locked_Up_Tonight
11-16-2011, 09:45 PM
EuroLeague, show me the article, so I can read it. What "reports" are you talking about?

Rooster
11-17-2011, 04:12 AM
Because its all minor league bball to the nba players- if they are going to be playing minor league ball than its just for the team that gives them the most money- its not like the nba players care which minor league they play in, none are the nba

Yes Euroleague title is a dream

For all American players

They will get homecoming parade

Like Anthony Parker

And get the Best Scrub Citizen Award

And franchise player type of contract

And be mention on the same breath

With Ear Jordan

Win MVP

You will forever in Euroleague lore

Americans will talk about you

You will never fade away from obscurity

Like Joseph Blair

LMAO

sodap
11-17-2011, 05:33 AM
While I'm sure both Gasols would love to play for Barcelona if there's a lockout, I'm just not sure if Barcelona should do it.
Sure, the team would get better, but what would happen the following season? The Gasol brothers would leave, and Barcelona's frontcourt would be really thin (it's not like they can keep on the injured list the players that would replaced by Pau and Marc).
Barcelona is a top candidate to win every FIBA trophy as it is, so why risk their future?

they should do it because if the nba is cancelling the whole season, the league will be severely damaged and euroleague and ACB must do everything they can to steal a piece of the basketball cake.

you start by getting all the nba superstars you can to play this season in europe, that way you get sponsors and media attention, and european leagues can grow and narrow the gap with NBA just a little.

also this way, players can see that playing in europe is not that bad, and superstars in their primes already would have done it, setting a precedent.


also, spanish media report real madrid going for dwight howard and/or lamarcus alridge (real madrid trailblazers with rudy, sergio and alridge :roll: )

ZenMaster
11-17-2011, 08:20 AM
they should do it because if the nba is cancelling the whole season, the league will be severely damaged and euroleague and ACB must do everything they can to steal a piece of the basketball cake.

you start by getting all the nba superstars you can to play this season in europe, that way you get sponsors and media attention, and european leagues can grow and narrow the gap with NBA just a little.

also this way, players can see that playing in europe is not that bad, and superstars in their primes already would have done it, setting a precedent.


also, spanish media report real madrid going for dwight howard and/or lamarcus alridge (real madrid trailblazers with rudy, sergio and alridge :roll: )

Fair argument, but in terms of quality players produced European basketball is closing the gap little by little every year because of a better development system for youth players.

Jon_Koncak
11-17-2011, 10:19 AM
Fair argument, but in terms of quality players produced European basketball is closing the gap little by little every year because of a better development system for youth players.

How is the gap closing when the last european players to have a major impact in Nba were drafted in 2001(Parker,Pau).Europe hasnt produced anythin but solid starters(Marc Gasol,Deng,Batm) or role players ever since.

pegasus
11-17-2011, 12:02 PM
How is the gap closing when the last european players to have a major impact in Nba were drafted in 2001(Parker,Pau).Europe hasnt produced anythin but solid starters(Marc Gasol,Deng,Batm) or role players ever since.

Fewer stars, but more solid starters and good role players coming off the bench. And if you look at the last drafts, it was almost European dominated. So, the emergence of European basketball is continuing, it's just not at the star level at the moment.

D-Wade316
11-17-2011, 01:13 PM
Durant = FIBA MVP

Dirk = FIBA MVP,Eurobasket MVP,7 time european basketball of the year.

Tony Parker = European player of the year

You = Crazed Troll
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Euroleague
11-17-2011, 01:53 PM
How is the gap closing when the last european players to have a major impact in Nba were drafted in 2001(Parker,Pau).Europe hasnt produced anythin but solid starters(Marc Gasol,Deng,Batm) or role players ever since.

Use your brain man.

This is what the NBA has done with European talents ever since guys like Pau, Dirk, Parker, ever since they saw that European players might get too much power in the "American game" and they have since then purposely crushed down the European influence.

Look at the facts.

Drafting players like Rubio, Darko, Skita with high lotto picks - players that are not even considered mildly good in Europe.

Then hyping them up to a fever pitch, saying they would be all time greatest NBA players in the case of Rubio and Darko, etc.

Then you have the NBA purposely bringing in players like Jerebko, Casspi, nothing more than role players in Europe and making them NBA starters/6th men...........

What does the NBA do with bonafide Euroleague elite players in the same times?

Spanoulis = forced to sit on the bench by his coach

Navarro = forced to take a back seat to terrible players because they "wanted the youth to play"

Papaloukas = not given anything near a fair contract offer.

Siska = same as Papaloukas

Jasikevicius = given his fair place with the Pacers, but then benched for no reason by Golden State.

The NBA markets these players as "Euro stars that just are not good enough to play in the NBA".

Meanwhile, American players that were in Euroleague get marketed as "Euroleague superstars", come to the NBA and instantly get their roles and playing time, even yes, during NBA broadcasts are called "Euroleague legends".

In this list are such "Euroleague legends" as Gary Neal, Lynn Greer, Will Bynum, Charlie Bell, etc., etc. - strangely enough these guys get plenty of playing time, even if they play way worse than the European guys did.

And then of course the most obvious one of all. The fact that now the NBA is every single year drafting guys that will never even be decent players in Europe, drafting them every year, and at the same time, choosing not to draft dozens of guys that will be good players from Europe.

And how do they talk during the NBA draft? "Every one of the best players from Europe gets drafted every year." "If they are not one of the best players from Europe, they don't get drafted".



If you can't figure out that this is NBA marketing, and is all planned then there is no hope for you.


Just look at Yao Ming.............as soon as the NBA realized the impact he was having in China, as soon as they realized he was a potentially dominant center and NBA player....................

the NBA began instructing the refs to take him out of games and make him a non-factor. And as it has been said from internal memos that the US senate saw when they investigated the NBA after the Tim Donaghy scandal, the NBA has actually sent out memos internally claiming that they had to stop Yao Ming's impact in the league because, "we cannot allow a Chinese player to dominate against black Americans".

Keep living in your fantasy world man.

Lebowski
11-17-2011, 02:14 PM
Use your brain man.

Just look at Yao Ming.............as soon as the NBA realized the impact he was having in China, as soon as they realized he was a potentially dominant center and NBA player....................

the NBA began instructing the refs to take him out of games and make him a non-factor. And as it has been said from internal memos that the US senate saw when they investigated the NBA after the Tim Donaghy scandal, the NBA has actually sent out memos internally claiming that they had to stop Yao Ming's impact in the league because, "we cannot allow a Chinese player to dominate against black Americans".

Keep living in your fantasy world man.

LoL-o-Holic!

pegasus
11-17-2011, 02:51 PM
Use your brain man.

This is what the NBA has done with European talents ever since guys like Pau, Dirk, Parker, ever since they saw that European players might get too much power in the "American game" and they have since then purposely crushed down the European influence.

Look at the facts.

Drafting players like Rubio, Darko, Skita with high lotto picks - players that are not even considered mildly good in Europe.

Then hyping them up to a fever pitch, saying they would be all time greatest NBA players in the case of Rubio and Darko, etc.

Then you have the NBA purposely bringing in players like Jerebko, Casspi, nothing more than role players in Europe and making them NBA starters/6th men...........

What does the NBA do with bonafide Euroleague elite players in the same times?

Spanoulis = forced to sit on the bench by his coach

Navarro = forced to take a back seat to terrible players because they "wanted the youth to play"

Papaloukas = not given anything near a fair contract offer.

Siska = same as Papaloukas

Jasikevicius = given his fair place with the Pacers, but then benched for no reason by Golden State.

The NBA markets these players as "Euro stars that just are not good enough to play in the NBA".

Meanwhile, American players that were in Euroleague get marketed as "Euroleague superstars", come to the NBA and instantly get their roles and playing time, even yes, during NBA broadcasts are called "Euroleague legends".

In this list are such "Euroleague legends" as Gary Neal, Lynn Greer, Will Bynum, Charlie Bell, etc., etc. - strangely enough these guys get plenty of playing time, even if they play way worse than the European guys did.

And then of course the most obvious one of all. The fact that now the NBA is every single year drafting guys that will never even be decent players in Europe, drafting them every year, and at the same time, choosing not to draft dozens of guys that will be good players from Europe.

And how do they talk during the NBA draft? "Every one of the best players from Europe gets drafted every year." "If they are not one of the best players from Europe, they don't get drafted".



If you can't figure out that this is NBA marketing, and is all planned then there is no hope for you.


Just look at Yao Ming.............as soon as the NBA realized the impact he was having in China, as soon as they realized he was a potentially dominant center and NBA player....................

the NBA began instructing the refs to take him out of games and make him a non-factor. And as it has been said from internal memos that the US senate saw when they investigated the NBA after the Tim Donaghy scandal, the NBA has actually sent out memos internally claiming that they had to stop Yao Ming's impact in the league because, "we cannot allow a Chinese player to dominate against black Americans".

Keep living in your fantasy world man.

So several NBA teams are purposefully sabotaging their draft rights. Right.:facepalm

RRR3
11-17-2011, 02:53 PM
So several NBA teams are purposefully sabotaging their draft rights. Right.:facepalm
http://http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z174/shoeman121/its_a_conspiracy.jpg

ZenMaster
11-17-2011, 04:16 PM
How is the gap closing when the last european players to have a major impact in Nba were drafted in 2001(Parker,Pau).Europe hasnt produced anythin but solid starters(Marc Gasol,Deng,Batm) or role players ever since.


Numbers of players coming to the NBA from Europe increases almost every year taking away spaces for American players in their own domestic league.

GM's and coaches like a lot of these players because of their versatility, a direct consequence of how coaches coach youth players over here.

Euroleague
11-17-2011, 06:54 PM
So several NBA teams are purposefully sabotaging their draft rights. Right.:facepalm

YES

Nick Young
11-17-2011, 08:23 PM
Durant = FIBA MVP

Dirk = FIBA MVP,Eurobasket MVP,7 time european basketball of the year.

Tony Parker = European player of the year

You = Crazed Troll
:roll:

Nick Young
11-17-2011, 08:24 PM
Use your brain man.

This is what the NBA has done with European talents ever since guys like Pau, Dirk, Parker, ever since they saw that European players might get too much power in the "American game" and they have since then purposely crushed down the European influence.

Look at the facts.

Drafting players like Rubio, Darko, Skita with high lotto picks - players that are not even considered mildly good in Europe.

Then hyping them up to a fever pitch, saying they would be all time greatest NBA players in the case of Rubio and Darko, etc.

Then you have the NBA purposely bringing in players like Jerebko, Casspi, nothing more than role players in Europe and making them NBA starters/6th men...........

What does the NBA do with bonafide Euroleague elite players in the same times?

Spanoulis = forced to sit on the bench by his coach

Navarro = forced to take a back seat to terrible players because they "wanted the youth to play"

Papaloukas = not given anything near a fair contract offer.

Siska = same as Papaloukas

Jasikevicius = given his fair place with the Pacers, but then benched for no reason by Golden State.

The NBA markets these players as "Euro stars that just are not good enough to play in the NBA".

Meanwhile, American players that were in Euroleague get marketed as "Euroleague superstars", come to the NBA and instantly get their roles and playing time, even yes, during NBA broadcasts are called "Euroleague legends".

In this list are such "Euroleague legends" as Gary Neal, Lynn Greer, Will Bynum, Charlie Bell, etc., etc. - strangely enough these guys get plenty of playing time, even if they play way worse than the European guys did.

And then of course the most obvious one of all. The fact that now the NBA is every single year drafting guys that will never even be decent players in Europe, drafting them every year, and at the same time, choosing not to draft dozens of guys that will be good players from Europe.

And how do they talk during the NBA draft? "Every one of the best players from Europe gets drafted every year." "If they are not one of the best players from Europe, they don't get drafted".



If you can't figure out that this is NBA marketing, and is all planned then there is no hope for you.


Just look at Yao Ming.............as soon as the NBA realized the impact he was having in China, as soon as they realized he was a potentially dominant center and NBA player....................

the NBA began instructing the refs to take him out of games and make him a non-factor. And as it has been said from internal memos that the US senate saw when they investigated the NBA after the Tim Donaghy scandal, the NBA has actually sent out memos internally claiming that they had to stop Yao Ming's impact in the league because, "we cannot allow a Chinese player to dominate against black Americans".

Keep living in your fantasy world man.
:roll:
This is proof that Euroleague is genuinely psychotic

Euroleague
11-17-2011, 08:35 PM
:roll:
This is proof that Euroleague is genuinely psychotic

:confusedshrug: