Shaq & Kobe: First 3 Rounds 3-Peat Stats

[jacobgoindum]

NOTE: Shaq was better than Kobe in 2000-2002, and was the best player in the league, but people just dont give enough credit for Kobe's first 3 rings and act like he was a role player. These are the stats of the 1st round up to the Conference Finals from 2000-2002. Shaq is one of the greatest finals performers of Alltime and his finals numbers are incredible, but you need to get to the Finals first to win a championship, and the other 3 rounds matter too.

2000 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 22.8 PPG, 4.4 RPG, 4.4 APG, .464 FG%
Shaq - 28.2 PPG, 15.0 RPG, 3.4 APG, .546 FG%

2001 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 31.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, .492 FG%
Shaq - 29.3 PPG, 15.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, .547 FG%

2002 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 26.6 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, .418 FG%
Shaq - 26.4 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.6 APG, .510 FG%

[HylianNightmare]

yeah all the shaq carrying kobe type comments are a little overblown

[ShaqAttack3234]

The 2000 scoring stats aren't correct for Shaq. His low series was 25.9 ppg vs Portland and in the other 2, he averaged 29.4 vs Sacramento and 30.2 vs Phoenix, respectively. Kobe was at 22.8 ppg through the first 3 rounds of 2000 as well.

But I agree, Kobe wasn't your typical number 2 at all. I rank him as a top 3 player in the league during '01 and '02, or at worst top 5, and the 2nd best player in the entire '01 playoffs.

2000 Kobe wasn't quite at that level yet, but around a top 10 player and his all around game at the time gets underrated by some. His on the ball defense was pretty much as good as any perimeter player that year, he had the scoring skills to probably average 25+ if he wanted to, but toned it down and fit well within the team concept. His length really seemed to bother point guards(who he often defended) and he committed himself fully to defense that season.

[SpecialQue]

But but but...Kobe was a scrub who got carried...

[Nevaeh]

But but but...Kobe was a scrub who got carried...

Well, why didn't he go ahead and post the Finals stats for Shaq and Kobe then? That's part of the Playoffs too right? I'm guessing that's where all of the heavy "carrying" for Shaq took place.

[EnoughSaid]

First 3 rounds of each 3 peat? How about you list the first 23 minutes of all the game 4's? :oldlol:

At the end of the day, Shaq: 3 FMVP's and Kobe: 0 FMVP's through that run.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Keeping it real, I haven’t been able to give Kobe credit (or the same credit) for LA's 2000-2002 championships as I've granted Shaq. Moreover, Shaq was the MDE in the league for those three seasons. Shaquille won an MVP during those three years, and IMO, was robbed another one. Additionally, Shaq was the NBA Finals MVP each time the Lakers made/won the Finals..and to boot, he was just about the only guy who showed up in the 2004 Finals.

As an outcome of those realities, it’s just too hard for me to say Bryant was the reason the Lakers won the title..or should get some sort of fifty-fifty credit. Of course he was a HUGE part of their winning, had a giant hand in it. At the end of the day, he just wasn't as dominant as Shaq. The numbers don't lie; however, the facts ALSO say that Kobe was possibly the greatest sidekick ever. IMHO, he shouldn’t even be considered a 'sidekick' (it’s irrational to do that to him).

[jacobgoindum]

The 2000 scoring stats aren't correct for Shaq. His low series was 25.9 ppg vs Portland and in the other 2, he averaged 29.4 vs Sacramento and 30.2 vs Phoenix, respectively. Kobe was at 22.8 ppg through the first 3 rounds of 2000 as well.

But I agree, Kobe wasn't your typical number 2 at all. I rank him as a top 3 player in the league during '01 and '02, or at worst top 5, and the 2nd best player in the entire '01 playoffs.

2000 Kobe wasn't quite at that level yet, but around a top 10 player and his all around game at the time gets underrated by some. His on the ball defense was pretty much as good as any perimeter player that year, he had the scoring skills to probably average 25+ if he wanted to, but toned it down and fit well within the team concept. His length really seemed to bother point guards(who he often defended) and he committed himself fully to defense that season.

my bad, I fixed Shaq's at 28.2 PPG, and fixed Kobe's too for '00

[SpecialQue]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GXtOnRbNcmc

[shawbryant]

my bad I fixed Shaq's at 28.2 PPG, and fixed Kobe's
Guess who has more fans all over the world?

[jacobgoindum]

[QUOTE=kuniva_dAMiGhTy]Keeping it real, I haven

[jacobgoindum]

Guess who has more fans all over the world?

Kobe, but what does that have to do with anything?

[jacobgoindum]

First 3 rounds of each 3 peat? How about you list the first 23 minutes of all the game 4's? :oldlol:

At the end of the day, Shaq: 3 FMVP's and Kobe: 0 FMVP's through that run.

1st 3 rounds dont matter at all?
and did I say otherwise about Shaq? I said Shaq was the best player in the league in 2000-2002
:facepalm

[Deuce Bigalow]

2001 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 31.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, .492 FG%


:applause:

In the '01 Playoffs
Both players had 2 amazing back to back performances
Shaq - back to back 40/20 games (44/21 and 43/20 in game 1 and 2 of WCSF)
Kobe - back to back 45/10 games (48/16 and 45/10 in game 4 of WCSF and game 1 of WCF)

[32Dayz]

Kobe was Pippen to Shaq's Jordan.

I dont think anyone trys to detract from his importance to the team and they definitely wouldn't have won in 01 or 02 without him.

He was amazing in the 01 playoffs and had he not had a very sub-par game in G1 of the Finals they would have gone 16-0 that year which is just ridiculous.

G1 2001 Finalz Shaq : 44 / 20 / 5 | 61% shooting.
G1 2001 Finalz Kobe : 15 / 5 / 3 - 6Turnovers | 31% shooting.

The 2001 Lakers steam rolled and swept some really talented and stacked teams.

2001 Post Season PER
Shaquille Oneal : 28.7
Kobe Bryant : 25

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Here are the stats below from the Finalz.

2001 FMVP : Shaquille Oneal

2001 Finalz Stats
Shaquille Oneal : 33 / 16 / 5 / 3.5 BPG --- 57% FG
Kobe Bryant : 24 / 8 / 6 --- 41% FG

[jacobgoindum]

Kobe was Pippen to Shaq's Jordan.

So a player that leads his team in Points and Assists up to the Finals 2 times ('01 and '02) is a Pippen?

[D-Wade316]

Kobe's 2nd best playoff run = 2001

[32Dayz]

So a player that leads his team in Points and Assists up to the Finals 2 times ('01 and '02) is a Pippen?

Shaq is a Center and Kobe is a SG its not really a surprise that he would have more Assists.

Kobe leading the team in points by a very small margin means little to nothing when the opposing teams are focusing their defenses on stopping Shaq and he was still producing practically the same Volume as Kobe on far higher efficiency.

The difference in overall Production in 00 and 02 was just as large as the difference most years between Jordan and Pippen. Even in 01 the gap was still very large.

Not to mention Shaq was the teams defensive anchor and was 10x more impactful on that end of the floor.

Sorry but Kobe was never even remotely close to Shaq in terms of Production and Impact on that team or in overall contribution.

I'm not trying to put down Kobe but actually thinking his impact/production and contributions to the 01 and 02 lakers were anywhere close to Prime Shaqs is 100% retarded.

Also pretending that the Finals aren't a legitimate playoff series because your favorite player happened to play bad or play worse then another player on the same team is silly.

[jacobgoindum]

Shaq is a Center and Kobe is a SG its not really a surprise that he would have more Assists.

Kobe leading the team in points by a very small margin means little to nothing when the opposing teams are focusing their defenses on stopping Shaq and he was still producing practically the same Volume as Kobe on far higher efficiency.

The difference in overall Production in 00 and 02 was just as large as the difference most years between Jordan and Pippen. Even in 01 the gap was still very large.

Not to mention Shaq was the teams defensive anchor and was 10x more impactful on that end of the floor.

Sorry but Kobe was never even remotely close to Shaq in terms of Production and Impact on that team or in overall contribution.

I'm not trying to put down Kobe but actually thinking his impact/production and contributions to the 01 and 02 lakers were anywhere close to Prime Shaqs is 100% retarded.

Also pretending that the Finals aren't a legitimate playoff series because your favorite player happened to play bad or play worse then another player on the same team is silly.

Leading the team points and assists through the First 3 rounds of the '01 and '02 playoffs is very impactful and there pretty close, and even when you factor in finals play Kobe is not that far away
and I never said that the Finals dont matter or isn't legitimate

Saying that the gap between Shaq and Kobe is the same gap as Jordan and Pippen is false, It was like a Kareem and Magic tandem in '01 and '02, of course Shaq was the better player though because of how they played in the Finals.

[32Dayz]

Leading the team points and assists through the First 3 rounds of the '01 and '02 playoffs is very impactful and there pretty close, and even when you factor in finals play Kobe is not that far away
and I never said that the Finals dont matter or isn't legitimate

Saying that the gap between Shaq and Kobe is the same gap as Jordan and Pippen is false, It was like a Kareem and Magic tandem in '01 and '02, of course Shaq was the better player though because of how they played in the Finals.

Shaq had far better Production in 5/6 Western Conference series in 01 and 02 while being the main focus of the opposing defenses and was the teams defensive anchor.

I dont see how you can say they were anywhere close to being equal's even if you completely remove the Finals.

I am not saying Kobe wasn't one of the best player in the league in 01 and 02 but Shaq was by far the best player in the entire league those years and he was far more important to the Lakers then Kobe was.

Then dont win without either one of them but the gap in Production in 00 and 02 was essentially the same between Pippen and Jordan so why should I view it differently?

Jordan wouldn't have won without Pippen
Shaq wouldn't have won with Kobe

[jacobgoindum]

Shaq had far better Production in 5/6 Western Conference series in 01 and 02 while being the main focus of the opposing defenses and was the teams defensive anchor.

I dont see how you can say they were anywhere close to being equal's even if you completely remove the Finals.

I am not saying Kobe wasnt one of the best player in the league in 01 and 02 but Shaq was by far the best player in the entire league those years and he was far more important to the Lakers then Kobe was.

Then dont win without either one of them but the gap in Production in 00 and 02 was essentially the same between Pippen and Jordan so why should I view it differently?

Kobe led the team in points and assists throught the first 3 rounds in '01 and '02, how much times do I have to say that
That is not Pippen-like, thats very impactful
How is it not even close when a guy leads the team in 2 major categories? :facepalm

[32Dayz]

Kobe did not lead the team in points.

28 Points on 55-60% Shooting >>>>>>>>>>>> 30 Points on 40-50% Shooting.

Are you that biased that you can overlook such an enormous gap in efficiency because of a 1-3 point differential in volume?

[jacobgoindum]

Kobe did not lead the team in points.

28 Points on 55-60% Shooting >>>>>>>>>>>> 30 Points on 40-50% Shooting.

Are you that biased that you can overlook such an enormous gap in efficiency because of a 1-3 point differential in volume?

efficiency in a guard and center are completely different, how many 3s has Shaq taken?
and what about freethrow %?
Kobe did lead the team in points throught the first 3 rounds in '01 and '02
31.6>29.3
26.6>26.4

[32Dayz]

efficiency in a guard and center are completely different, how many 3s has Shaq taken?

The 0ffense was run through Shaq, the opposing defenses would double and triple Shaq while Kobe got to work mostly on single coverage.

Do you honestly believe Kobe was even close to Shaq 0ffensively from 00-02.


2002 FMVP : Shaquille Oneal
Stats in 4 Winz
Shaquille Oneal : 36 / 12.5 / 3.75 --- 60%FG
Kobe Bryant : 26 / 6 / 5 --- 51%

Post Season PER/WShares
Shaquille Oneal : 28.4 --- 3.8
Kobe Bryant : 20.5 --- 2.6

Conclusion : GOAT Playoffs and Finals performance by Shaquille Oneal
Led Team in Production and WShares by an enormous amount throughout the entire playoffs and had by far the best Production/Play in the Finals.

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2001 FMVP : Shaquille Oneal
Stats in 4 Wins
Shaquille Oneal : 31 / 15 / 5 / 4.5 BPG --- 56% FG
Kobe Bryant : 27 / 8 / 6 --- 44% FG

Post Season PER
Shaquille Oneal : 28.7
Kobe Bryant : 25

Conclusion : GOAT Playoffs and Finals performance by Shaquille Oneal
Led Team in Production by an enormous amount throughout the entire playoffs was (essentially) tied with Bryant in Total WShares and had by far the best Production/Play in the Finals.

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2000 FMVP : Shaquille Oneal
Stats in 4 Wins
Shaquille Oneal : 40 / 19 / 2.5 / 3BPG --- 60% FG
Kobe Bryant : 17 / 4 / 4 --- 40% FG

Post Season PER/WShares
Shaquille Oneal : 30.5 --- 4.7
Kobe Bryant : 19.3 --- 2.1

Conclusion : The GOAT Playoffs and Finals performance by Shaquille Oneal (Averaged 40/20 in the 4 LA Wins (Holy S***)

Led Team in Production and WShares by an enormous amount throughout the entire playoffs and had by far the best Production/Play in the Finals.

Notes : Very similar situation to Duncan in 03 and Hakeem in 94.

[32Dayz]

efficiency in a guard and center are completely different, how many 3s has Shaq taken?
and what about freethrow %?
Kobe did lead the team in points throught the first 3 rounds in '01 and '02
31.6>29.3
26.6>26.4

Even if you use TS% to account for FT's Shaq still has a dramatic edge in efficiency all 3 years in the WCFSeries.

So being equal in Volume but far less efficient is worse not better.

Then when you account for how defenses were defending each of them the comparison is no longer reasonable.

[jacobgoindum]

The 0ffense was run through Shaq, the opposing defenses would double and triple Shaq while Kobe got to work mostly on single coverage.

Do you honestly believe Kobe was even close to Shaq 0ffensively from 00-02.

2001 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 31.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, .492 FG%
Shaq - 29.3 PPG, 15.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, .547 FG%

2002 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 26.6 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, .418 FG%
Shaq - 26.4 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.6 APG, .510 FG%

For the whole run
'01 Kobe 29.4, Shaq 30.4
'02 Kobe 26.6, Shaq 28.5

not even close:rolleyes:

[jacobgoindum]

Even if you use TS% to account for FT's Shaq still has a dramatic edge in efficiency all 3 years in the WCFSeries.

So being equal in Volume but far less efficient is worse not better.

Then when you account for how defenses were defending each of them the comparison is no longer reasonable.

considering that Kobe is a SG and Shaq is a C, ofcourse he is more efficient he plays deep in the post 100% of the time, Kobe is a perimeter player

[32Dayz]

2001 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 31.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, .492 FG%
Shaq - 29.3 PPG, 15.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, .547 FG%

2002 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 26.6 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, .418 FG%
Shaq - 26.4 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.6 APG, .510 FG%

For the whole run
'01 Kobe 29.4, Shaq 30.4
'02 Kobe 26.6, Shaq 28.5

not even close:rolleyes:

Agreed. :applause:

Shaq is far better statistically but even disregarding that.
Your completely ignoring the context of the way they were defended, ignoring the fact that Shaq had to deal with far more defensive attention/pressure and was also the defensive anchor to those teams and far more impactful on the defensive end of the floor.

Shaq/Kobe may have been closer then Jordan/Pippen but the gap was still quite large. Your highly underestimating the difference in Production, Impact and Value between the two.

It isn't that Kobe isn't great but its that 00-02 Shaq is arguably the GOAT. There is no reasonable way to say Kobe is close to him unless your trying to imply that 01-02 Kobe is somehow equal or on the same Tier as
Prime Shaq/Jordan/Kareem/Wilt

Kobe's Peak was great but it probably was more towards 09 then 01 and it doesn't belong in the same class as those players above.

[jacobgoindum]

Agreed. :applause:

Shaq is far better statistically but even disregarding that.
Your completely ignoring the context of the way they were defended, ignoring the fact that Shaq had to deal with far more defensive attention/pressure and was also the defensive anchor to those teams and far more impactful on the defensive end of the floor.

Shaq/Kobe may have been closer then Jordan/Pippen but the gap was still quite large. Your highly underestimating the difference in Production, Impact and Value between the two.

It isn't that Kobe isn't great but its that 00-02 Shaq is arguably the GOAT. There is no reasonable way to say Kobe is close to him unless your trying to imply that 01-02 Kobe is somehow equal or on the same Tier as
Prime Shaq/Jordan/Kareem/Wilt

Kobe's Peak was great but it probably was more towards 09 then 01 and it doesn't belong in the same class as those players above.

:facepalm

How can it be "not even close" when Kobe led the team in points and assists in first 3 rounds of the '01 and '02 Playoffs :oldlol:

Look, Shaq was better we all know that, but it isn't "not even close" at all

and lol @ you highlighting the rebounding difference between a SG and C, look at the difference in APG in 01, but anyways you need to stop severly underrating Kobe during those runs, 29/7/6 and 27/6/5 in '01 and '02 Playoffs and in the first 3 rounds leading the team in points and assists in '01 and '02 Playoffs (32/7/7 in '01), that is not a Pippen-Jordan gap, Pippen never even came close in PPG (it was always a 9.5-15.6 PPG difference in all 6 championships).

[32Dayz]

:facepalm

How can it be "not even close" when Kobe led the team in points and assists in first 3 rounds of the '01 and '02 Playoffs :oldlol:

Look, Shaq was better we all know that, but it isn't "not even close" at all

and lol @ you highlighting the rebounding difference between a SG and C, look at the difference in APG in 01, but anyways you need to stop severly underrating Kobe during those runs, 29/7/6 and 27/6/5 in '01 and '02 Playoffs and in the first 3 rounds leading the team in points and assists in '01 and '02 Playoffs, that is not a Pippen-Jordan gap, Pippen never even came close in PPG (it was always a 10+ difference in all 6 championships I believe).

I dont know how you can expect people to take you seriously when you think scoring .2-1 points more a game while being significantly less efficient is somehow a reason to say that player is better.

But anyway... keep thinking it was close if it makes you happy but in reality it really wasnt.

Shaq was Jordan and Kobe was Pippen.


2001 FMVP : Shaquille Oneal
Stats in 4 Wins
Shaquille Oneal : 31 / 15 / 5 / 4.5 BPG --- 56% FG
Kobe Bryant : 27 / 8 / 6 --- 44% FG

Post Season PER
Shaquille Oneal : 28.7
Kobe Bryant : 25

Conclusion : GOAT Playoffs and Finals performance by Shaquille Oneal
Led Team in Production by an enormous amount throughout the entire playoffs was (essentially) tied with Bryant in Total WShares and had by far the best Production/Play in the Finals.

[jacobgoindum]

I dont know how you can expect people to take you seriously when you think scoring .2-1 points more a game while being significantly less efficient is somehow a reason to say that player is better.

But anyway... keep thinking it was close if it makes you happy but in reality it really wasnt.

Shaq was Jordan and Kobe was Pippen.

I never said Kobe was better:facepalm
can you not read?

That is the Finals, there are also 3 other rounds that get you there, and Kobe was a Pippen in '00 becuase he was not develpoed, but saying that the gap was a Jordan-Pippen one in '01 and '02 is laughable, I can't take you seriously

[jacobgoindum]

Saying it wasnt even close, or that the gap between them is similar to Jordan-Pippen, when:

2001 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 31.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, .492 FG%
Shaq - 29.3 PPG, 15.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, .547 FG%

2002 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 26.6 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, .418 FG%
Shaq - 26.4 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.6 APG, .510 FG%

Is funny to me :oldlol:

The closest Pippen got to Jordan in Playoff PPG difference is 9.5 in '91 and was as high as 15.6 in '98
Kobe only scored 1.0 and 1.9 less Playoff PPG than Shaq in '01 and '02, and scored more throught the first 3 rounds than Shaq

[32Dayz]

Saying it wasnt even close, or that the gap between them is similar to Jordan-Pippen, when:

2001 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 31.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, .492 FG%
Shaq - 29.3 PPG, 15.3 RPG, 2.5 APG, .547 FG%

2002 Playoffs - First 3 Rounds
Kobe - 26.6 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 4.4 APG, .418 FG%
Shaq - 26.4 PPG, 12.7 RPG, 2.6 APG, .510 FG%

Is funny to me :oldlol:

If you factor in efficiency and overall production.
If you factor in intangibles and how teams would defend each of them.
If you factor in defensive impact then yes its not close at all.

If you completely ignore all those things then yes its extremely close.

[jacobgoindum]

If you factor in effeciency and overall production, if you factor in intangibles and how teams would defend each of them, if you factor in defensive impact then yes its not close at all.

If you completely ignore all those things then yes its extremely close.

Im sorry, Is Kobe not a good defender?
Kobe in 2000-2002 was one of the best perimeter defenders in the league
How about we factor in plays when the game is on the line, Kobe made 2 gamewinners in the playoffs (gm 2 vs '00 PHX and gm 3 vs '02 SA), he had the ball and was the playmaker with under 2 minutes to go
intangibiles? Kobe can do everything needed on the court

It is close, not that close, but close

[monkeypox]

Teams Shaq carried to a title without Kobe = 0

Teams Kobe carried to a title without Shaq = 2

Dispute it.

Shaq was MD of that era sure, but he was greatly helped to his FMVP's by the weak centers he had to play against in the finals. (Oh wait, old Dikimbe was there once right?)

Shaq played with Penny and led that team to zero titles. All shaq has is a 2nd bannana title with Wade, which many here consider to be better than Kobe. He tried with Nash, Pierce, Garnett, Allen, Stoudemire, no success. Shaq failed to lead team stacked with Kobe, Malone, and Payton to a title. But it's Kobe's status that is to be doubted?

Kareem > Shaq overall in basketball legacy.

[32Dayz]

Shaq failed to lead team stacked with Kobe, Malone, and Payton to a title. But it's Kobe's status that is to be doubted?

We all know who's to blame for the 2004 Loss.
Kobe without Shaq or Gasol = 0 Rings.

Teams Carried to a Title.
Shaq = 3 (00-02)
Kobe = 1 (09)

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Shaq's 10 best years in the playoffs > Kobe's Peak Year.

#2.
Shaq : Post Season - PER
Peak : 31
Top 5 : 30
Top 7 : 29.56
Top 10 : 28.52

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#15.
Kobe : Post Season - PER
Peak : 26.8
Top 5 : 24
Top 7 : 23
Top 10 : 22.98

Stay Mad Homer. :applause:

[jacobgoindum]

We all know who's to blame for the 2004 Loss.
Kobe without Shaq or Gasol = 0 Rings.

Teams Carried to a Title.
Shaq = 3 (00-02)
Kobe = 1 (09)

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Shaq's 10 best years in the playoffs > Kobe's Peak Year.

#2.
Shaq : Post Season - PER
Peak : 31
Top 5 : 30
Top 7 : 29.56
Top 10 : 28.52

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#15.
Kobe : Post Season - PER
Peak : 26.8
Top 5 : 24
Top 7 : 23
Top 10 : 22.98

Stay Mad Homer. :applause:

Rank Player PER
1. Michael Jordan* 27.91
2. LeBron James^ 26.86
3. Shaquille O'Neal 26.59
4. David Robinson* 26.18
5. Wilt Chamberlain* 26.13
6. Dwyane Wade^ 25.67
7. Bob Pettit* 25.37
8. Tim Duncan^ 25.02
9. Neil Johnston* 24.72
10. Charles Barkley* 24.63
11. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 24.58
12. Magic Johnson* 24.11
13. Karl Malone* 23.90
14. Dirk Nowitzki^ 23.76
15. Kevin Garnett^ 23.59
16. Hakeem Olajuwon* 23.59
17. Kobe Bryant^ 23.50
18. Larry Bird* 23.50
19. Oscar Robertson* 23.17
20. Yao Ming 23.04
21. Jerry West* 22.90
22. Tracy McGrady^ 22.81
23. Elgin Baylor* 22.70
24. Amare Stoudemire^ 22.57
25. Moses Malone* 22.31

LOL @ PER