ISH's #25 Player of Alltime

[Deuce Bigalow]

#1: Michael Jordan (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237455)
#2: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237815)
#3: Bill Russell (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237918)
#4: Magic Johnson (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238016)
#5: Wilt Chamberlain (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238103)
#6: Larry Bird (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238181)
#7: Shaquille O'Neal (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238203)
#8: Tim Duncan (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238309)
#9: Hakeem Olajuwon (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238385)
#10: Kobe Bryant (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238486)
#11: Jerry West (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238569)
#12: Oscar Robertson (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238681)
#13: Moses Malone (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238749)
#14: Julius Erving (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238814)
#15: Charles Barkley (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238859)
#16: Karl Malone (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238954)
#17: Kevin Garnett (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239053)
#18: Dirk Nowitzki (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239130)
#19: David Robinson (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239207)
#20: Elgin Baylor (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239287)
#21: Isiah Thomas (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239340)
#22: Bob Pettit (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239420)
#23: John Havlicek (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239502)
#24: George Mikan (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239593)

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ISH's #24 Player of Alltime - George Mikan

http://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/lakers/bio_photos/george_mikan.jpg
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Candidates:
Rick Barry
Dwyane Wade
Lebron James
Patrick Ewing
Scottie Pippen
John Stockton
Steve Nash
Elvin Hayes
Allen Iverson
Clyde Drexler
Bob Cousy
Jason Kidd
Pete Maravich
Gary Payton

[Miller for 3]

Pippen

[inclinerator]

reggie miller

[SpecialQue]

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ISH's #24 Player of Alltime - George Mikan

http://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/lakers/bio_photos/george_mikan.jpg
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Candidates:
Rick Barry
Dwyane Wade
Lebron James
Patrick Ewing
Scottie Pippen
John Stockton
Steve Nash
Elvin Hayes
Allen Iverson
Clyde Drexler
Bob Cousy
Jason Kidd
Pete Maravich
Gary Payton

http://troll.me/images/basedgod/thank-you-basedgod.jpg

And on that note, Lebron for #25.

[FF1]

LeBron

[dbugz]

Let's go LeDiva haters

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[JMT]

Rick Barry

[Fatal9]

Reggie Miller

[DMV2]

Clyde Drexler

[Deuce Bigalow]

Why are people voting for Reggie Miller? hes not a candidate

[RRR3]

http://scottbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/badsports10.jpg

[DevilsAssassin]

Reggie Miller

[winwin]

no one said: Scottie Pippen?

[asdf1990]

reggie miller over lebron james. wtf?

[boyle777]

These threads have become stupid now. No sane person can honestly think Reggie Miller was a better player than Lebron. Hell, Lebron had overtaken Reggie by his 2nd season.

[Fatal9]

These threads have become stupid now. No sane person can honestly think Reggie Miller was a better player than Lebron. Hell, Lebron had overtaken Reggie by his 2nd season.
Reggie is clutcher, a better playoff performer and has great longevity. Reggie just had the misfortune of being in a league with MJ, Hakeem and D-Rob so he couldn't win MVPs.

[Deuce Bigalow]

These threads have become stupid now. No sane person can honestly think Reggie Miller was a better player than Lebron. Hell, Lebron had overtaken Reggie by his 2nd season.

Reggie is not even a candidate, so those votes don't count anyways

[hammer2010]

Reggie Miller





















































Scottie Pippen :lol

[boyle777]

Reggie is clutcher, a better playoff performer and has great longevity. Reggie just had the misfortune of being in a league with MJ, Hakeem and D-Rob so he couldn't win MVPs.

Better playoff performer? Laughable. I respect Miller and loved watching him play. One of the best shooters ever, but couldn't defend.

And poor excuse saying he didn't win MVP because of others. If you're good enough (or have a good enough story these days really - d rose) you'll win.

[JMT]

These threads have become stupid now. No sane person can honestly think Reggie Miller was a better player than Lebron. Hell, Lebron had overtaken Reggie by his 2nd season.

I know. It's insane. Like ranking James over Rick Barry.

[Heavincent]

Pippen.

[colts19]

rick barry

[Snoop_Cat]

Dirk was seriously ranked #18.....?

[Asukal]

John Stockton. Great PG, deserves the spot imo. :applause:

[DevilsAssassin]

Reggie is not even a candidate, so those votes don't count anyways
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[Deuce Bigalow]

http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/10/11225/11495129.jpg

:oldlol:

All-Star Games
1990 NBA
1995 NBA
1996 NBA
1998 NBA
2000 NBA

Honors
1994-95 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
1995-96 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
1997-98 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

You think that is top 25 worthy?

[L8kersfan222]

Rick Barry EASY

[Boston C's]

i dont even know if reggie is top 50 let alone top 25 and there are ppl voting for him smh:facepalm

[RRR3]

Reggie Miller isn't top 50, and arguably isn't even top 75. GTFO :facepalm And LOL @ Miller being a better playoff performer than LeBron. :roll:

[Heavincent]

Jason Kidd better be in the top 30. I'll be voting for him if Pippen gets this spot.

[RRR3]

Jason Kidd better be in the top 30. I'll be voting for him if Pippen gets this spot.
He's not over Frazier, and that's just amongst PG's.

[SyRyanYang]

Anyone thinks Lebron should be ranked higher than Scottie is either a retarded Lebron fan, or just retarded.
Give me Scottie Pippen!!

[RRR3]

Anyone thinks Lebron should be ranked higher than Scottie is either a retarded Lebron fan, or just retarded.
Give me Scottie Pippen!!
So Scottie Pippen is a retarded LeBron fan :lol

[Vienceslav]

This is probably a good time to call it a day with this list.

[Jacks3]

#1: Michael Jordan (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237455)
#2: Kareem Abdul-Jabbar (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237815)
#3: Bill Russell (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237918)
#4: Magic Johnson (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238016)
#5: Wilt Chamberlain (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238103)
#6: Larry Bird (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238181)
#7: Shaquille O'Neal (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238203)
#8: Tim Duncan (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238309)
#9: Hakeem Olajuwon (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238385)
#10: Kobe Bryant (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238486)
#11: Jerry West (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238569)
#12: Oscar Robertson (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238681)
#13: Moses Malone (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238749)
#14: Julius Erving (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238814)
#15: Charles Barkley (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238859)
#16: Karl Malone (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=238954)
#17: Kevin Garnett (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239053)
#18: Dirk Nowitzki (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239130)
#19: David Robinson (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239207)
#20: Elgin Baylor (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239287)
#21: Isiah Thomas (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239340)
#22: Bob Pettit (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239420)
#23: John Havlicek (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239502)
#24: George Mikan (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239593)

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ISH's #24 Player of Alltime - George Mikan

http://www.latimes.com/includes/projects/img/lakers/bio_photos/george_mikan.jpg
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Candidates:
Rick Barry
Dwyane Wade
Lebron James
Patrick Ewing
Scottie Pippen
John Stockton
Steve Nash
Elvin Hayes
Allen Iverson
Clyde Drexler
Bob Cousy
Jason Kidd
Pete Maravich
Gary Payton
Mikan,John,Thomas,Dork,Robinson over LeBron. :facepalm

[Smoke117]

These Reggie Miller picks have to be some kind of joke right? I'm the biggest Ray Allen fan out there (who is clearly an all time better player than Reggie Miller for that matter) but I sure as **** wouldn't pick him as the 25th greatest player of all time. Scottie Pippen. I Don't even know why I bother to vote though. These list are always terrible. There are too many idiots. There should be a panel of specifically selected people that can only choose these things. Democracy is for the government, but it doesn't work for ISH. Reggie ****ing Miller...jesus christ.

[Vienceslav]

These Reggie Miller picks have to be some kind of joke right? I'm the biggest Ray Allen fan out there (who is clearly an all time better player than Reggie Miller for that matter) but I sure as **** wouldn't pick him as the 25th greatest player of all time. Scottie Pippen. I Don't even know why I bother to vote though. These list are always terrible. There are too many idiots. There should be a panel of specifically selected people that can only choose these things. Democracy is for the government, but it doesn't work for ISH. Reggie ****ing Miller...jesus christ.
Well this list wasn

[SyRyanYang]

So Scottie Pippen is a retarded LeBron fan :lol
Maybe he is:lol

[Smoke117]

[QUOTE=Vienceslav]Well this list wasn

[SpecialQue]

This is probably a good time to call it a day with this list.

Yeah...all the Miller and Pippen votes are just people trolling now. At least the Miller crap won't be counted, but no fvcking way is Pippen better than Lebron.

[SyRyanYang]

Yeah...all the Miller and Pippen votes are just people trolling now. At least the Miller crap won't be counted, but no fvcking way is Pippen better than Lebron.

You serious？ Maybe Lebron is the better player out of the two. But we're talking about all time ranking here. Achievement matters a lot!

[Vienceslav]

No it wasn't. Tim Duncan over Hakeem Olajuwon. Give me a ****ing break. There are too many little babies who haven't seen shit before the late 90s if even that and shouldn't even have any opinions.
I said for ISH standards and people can have different opinions and Duncan over Hakeem can be justified.

[Smoke117]

I said for ISH standards and people can have different opinions and Duncan over Hakeem can be justified.

Maybe in fantasy land where half lion/half men run around can it be justified, but I live in the real world.

[DevilsAssassin]

this whole ranking is a joke.

umm umm Robert Horry 7 rings > Lebron James 2MVP

[hammer2010]

Scottie Pippen

[Jacks3]

Maybe in fantasy land where half lion/half men run around can it be justified, but I live in the real world.
you're so cool.

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTHyFIdQoH0Dx7YKpfAsoDkFGXDiBrVm oTJetqz8z2lPr-kbHhrTQ

[ShaqAttack3234]

Lebron

[Deuce Bigalow]

Jason Kidd better be in the top 30. I'll be voting for him if Pippen gets this spot.

This is the last spot, Top 25 is good place to end it

[coin24]

Pippen

[Heavincent]

This is the last spot, Top 25 is good place to end it

I see...

Come on Pippen!

[Vienceslav]

Maybe in fantasy land where half lion/half men run around can it be justified, but I live in the real world.
Reality hits you hard bro.:banana:

[hammer2010]

Pippen

[RRR3]

And people say LeBron isn't underrated on ISH :facepalm
This just proves it.

[Legends66NBA7]

And people say LeBron isn't underrated on ISH :facepalm
This just proves it.

You aren't taking this list that serious are you man?

[RRR3]

You aren't taking this that serious are you man?
It just really annoys me how a lot of posters are getting away with this BS, especially when a lot of them try hard to seem objective :rolleyes:

[Smoke117]

Lebron should have been higher but to me he's just a incredibly hard player to rate. Let's face it he's played in an era that's very soft where his stats are very inflated. If he came into the league in say 95 his stats would not be what they are. He's not at all as good as his stats say just like a lot of players aren't over the last 5 years in the league. It's going to be difficult to actually compare players from different eras just from the 90s to now because of how much the rules have changed, how less physical the game has become, and how much easier they have made it to score. Frankly Scottie Pippen is regularly regarded as a top 25-30 player, that Lebron James isn't getting votes is yes true because people hate him. Frankly I just don't care about him. I don't hate him. Do I think he's overrated? Yes, mainly because of what I stated above. Everything about his stats are inflated because of the era he plays in. Does that mean I don't think he's a great player? Not necessarily, but it makes it hard for me really to have anything to say about him good or bad or rank him in general.

[Heavincent]

And people say LeBron isn't underrated on ISH :facepalm
This just proves it.

Lebron isn't a definite lock for the top 25, you know that right?

[RRR3]

Lebron isn't a definite lock for the top 25, you know that right?
Kobe isn't a definite lock for the top 10, you know that right?

[DevilsAssassin]

Lebron should have been higher but to me he's just a incredibly hard player to rate. Let's face it he's played in an era that's very soft where his stats are very inflated. If he came into the league in say 95 his stats would not be what they are. He's not at all as good as his stats say just like a lot of players aren't over the last 5 years in the league. It's going to be difficult to actually compare players from different eras just from the 90s to now because of how much the rules have changed, how less physical the game has become, and how much easier they have made it to score. Frankly Scottie Pippen is regularly regarded as a top 25-30 player, that Lebron James isn't getting votes is yes true because people hate him. Frankly I just don't care about him. I don't hate him. Do I think he's overrated? Yes, mainly because of what I stated above. Everything about his stats are inflated because of the era he plays in. Does that mean I don't think he's a great player? Not necessarily, but it makes it hard for me really to have anything to say about him good or bad or rank him in general.

ERA he played in?

LMFAO get that shit outta here.

If Lebron James played in the 80's he stats would look like this > 36PPG 10RPG 10APG

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

LMFAO @ calling this era soft.

[Legends66NBA7]

It just really annoys me how a lot of posters are getting away with this BS, especially when a lot of them try hard to seem objective :rolleyes:

I hear ya man.

Outside of Shaqattack and one or two more posters, there is hardly any or no objectivity at all during these rankings.

It's basically been just some agenda driven B.S. the last oh... 5-8 players to try to bait other fans (notably LeBron fans). It's mostly trolling that I see.

Also, you got to love RG going on multiple accounts as well, but that's going to be counted as a vote, as well as posters tag teaming to vote against certain players (namely LeBron again).

Lists like these take a lot of time and preparation IMO. You can't just give a name and just go with it. There has to be some real debate and objectivity. Not just some non sense.

[Heavincent]

Kobe isn't a definite lock for the top 10, you know that right?

Yes he is. The vast majority of basketball fans have him in the top 10.

[Legends66NBA7]

Lebron isn't a definite lock for the top 25, you know that right?

How so? Please explain. Or rather yet, show me the players that have a case over LeBron, if there are 25 players over him.

[DMV2]

this whole ranking is a joke.

umm umm Robert Horry 7 rings > Lebron James 2MVP
Top 16 looks pretty accurate though. You can argue between Shaq, Duncan, Kobe and Kobe for #7-#10.

[RRR3]

Yes he is. The vast majority of basketball fans have him in the top 10.
Blah, blah, blah. Argumentum ad populum, argumentum ad populum. Heard it all before. LBJ being out of the top 25 is bullshit and you know it. Stop hating. Kobe is certainly a guy with a case for being top 10 and if I'm feeling generous I could see ranking him as high as 8th. But he's not indisputably top 10.

[L.Kizzle]

These threads have become stupid now. No sane person can honestly think Reggie Miller was a better player than Lebron. Hell, Lebron had overtaken Reggie by his 2nd season.
Are you sure you are sane my friend.

[Heavincent]

Blah, blah, blah. Argumentum ad populum, argumentum ad populum. Heard it all before. LBJ being out of the top 25 is bullshit and you know it. Stop hating. Kobe is certainly a guy with a case for being top 10 and if I'm feeling generous I could see ranking him as high as 8th. But he's not indisputably top 10.

lol at me being a hater because I pointed out the fact that Lebron is not a lock for the top 25.

Kobe is indisputably a top 10 player. Maybe you have an argument, it's just probably a very weak argument though.

[RRR3]

lol at me being a hater because I pointed out the fact that Lebron is not a lock for the top 25.

Kobe is indisputably a top 10 player. Maybe you have an argument, it's just probably a very weak argument though.

LOL @ Kobe being indisputably a top 10 player and LBJ not being indusputably top 25. At least keep your agenda a little more inconspicious. All you do is suck Kobe's dick 24/7, so I really don't think your opinion on this should be taken with much more than a tiny grain of salt.

[Jacks3]

Kobe isn't a definite lock for the top 10, you know that right?
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Heavincent]

LOL @ Kobe being indisputably a top 10 player and LBJ not being indusputably top 25. At least keep your agenda a little more inconspicious. All you do is suck Kobe's dick 24/7, so I really don't think your opinion on this should be taken with much more than a tiny grain of salt.

Says the guy that gets butthurt because Lebron might not make a top 25 list on an internet forum :lol

Don't worry, you can spoon with pauk tonight to ease the pain. He knows your troubles better than anyone else. After all, you guys do take turns sucking on Lebron's dick. You two must relate to each other pretty well.

[Smoke117]

ERA he played in?

LMFAO get that shit outta here.

If Lebron James played in the 80's he stats would look like this > 36PPG 10RPG 10APG

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

LMFAO @ calling this era soft.

Yeah because it hasn't already been established that defenses weren't evolved or intuitive or they even doubled much and that's why guys like Alex English, Kiki Vandeweghe, Adrian Dantley points wise etc were able to do what they did and that's basically why they aren't heralded as such great all time players. Anyway I'm not even a Lebron hater so why are you trolling me you dumb stupid ****? Beside the point that I said if he came into the league in let's say 95 in the first place you idiot moron. The league right now is certainly soft compared to 1995.

[bballnoob1192]

Dirk was seriously ranked #18.....?

yep thats what threw this whole ****ing thread into the dumpster....dirk's ridiculously high ranking and KG's semi high ranking those two should be in the mid 20s tbh

[bballnoob1192]

also whats more ridiculous lebron not making top 25 or dirk ranked at 17?? something somewhere went really ****ing wrong in this thread :)

[Mr. Bryant]

Pippen easily. Led his team to 6 championships.

jordon should be no where near this list but I guess it's no surprise with all the brainless dick riding that goes on here.

[MichaelCheazley]

yep thats what threw this whole ****ing thread into the dumpster....dirk's ridiculously high ranking and KG's semi high ranking those two should be in the mid 20s tbh
Well, my friend, thats what the sports world is man. Its "what have you done for me recently" in most cases. Specially with active players. Once a player has a down year the fans hop off his waggon and move onto the next hot thing. He won this year so the thought on him right now are high. Yep.

[jacobgoindum]

Pippen easily. Led his team to 6 championships.

jordon should be no where near this list but I guess it's no surprise with all the brainless dick riding that goes on here.

:roll:
:facepalm

[Darkthug]

Gotta go with Pippen.

[Dave3]

Pippen easily. Led his team to 6 championships.

jordon should be no where near this list but I guess it's no surprise with all the brainless dick riding that goes on here.
Where do you got Pippen all time? Top 3 or top 5?

[Legends66NBA7]

Where do you got Pippen all time? Top 3 or top 5?

Obvious troll was not obvious to you ? :ohwell:

[Dave3]

Obvious troll was not obvious to you ? :ohwell:
Well, he must think a lot of Pippen if he thinks Jordan his second option for 6 whole championships wasn't even top 25 all time right? That should put Pippen at least top 3 or 5 shouldn't it?

[Jacks3]

Pippen easily. Led his team to 6 championships.

jordon should be no where near this list but I guess it's no surprise with all the brainless dick riding that goes on here.
Very true.

[Legends66NBA7]

Well, he must think a lot of Pippen if he thinks Jordan his second option for 6 whole championships wasn't even top 25 all time right? That should put Pippen at least top 3 or 5 shouldn't it?

Pippen is too good to even be on this list man.

This is his number ranking :

http://math.yorku.ca/infinity_old/Images/newInfinity.jpg

[JM720]

Pippen

[pauk]

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Sarcastic]

People are actually voting for Pippen ahead of Lebron?
:facepalm

[pauk]

People are actually voting for Pippen ahead of Lebron?
:facepalm

hahahahahahahahahah

pippen? lmfao

look at the rest of the list of less accomplished players above lebron

hahahahahahahah

reggie miller

hahahahahahahah

[pauk]

#17: Kevin Garnett (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239053)
#18: Dirk Nowitzki (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239130)
#19: David Robinson (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239207)
#20: Elgin Baylor (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239287)
#21: Isiah Thomas (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239340)
#22: Bob Pettit (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239420)
#23: John Havlicek (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239502)
#24: George Mikan (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239593)
#25: Reggie Miller? (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239593)
#26: Scottie Pippen? (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239593)
#27: Robert Horry? 7 > 0 (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=239593)


http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/awsome/grand/31625688_awesome_reaction_gif.gif

[Legends66NBA7]

People are actually voting for Pippen ahead of Lebron?
:facepalm


hahahahahahahahahah

pippen? lmfao

look at the rest of the list of less accomplished players above lebron

hahahahahahahah

Creditability went down a long time ago on this list boys.


http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/awsome/grand/31625688_awesome_reaction_gif.gif

:ohwell:

[millwad]

Eugene Zelenoff

http://images.ebaumsworld.com/thumbs/video/1055642/81746091.jpg

[pauk]

Anyways... :lol

i vote for Reggie Miller

[millwad]

If my Eugene Zelenoff vote doesn't count, then I'll vote for Reggie Miller.

[pauk]

Creditability went down a long time ago on this list boys.



:ohwell:

i love Deuce Bigalow for making these threads tho..... even further proves my point... something which i have said since day 1 here....

this forum is ruled by Kobetards/Lebron haters (all dumb anyways).... and there are very few actual intelligent / unbiased posters... like yourself, jlauber, shaqattack, jlip and so on and so on

also.. meanwhile there is maybe 5-10 (max 15-19) Lebron fans in this forum or at least who like Lebron... somewhat lol...... im serious...

[pauk]

Pippen easily. Led his team to 6 championships.

jordon should be no where near this list but I guess it's no surprise with all the brainless dick riding that goes on here.

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/awsome/grand/nba_win_gif.gif

[millwad]

i love Deuce Bigalow for making these threads tho..... even further proves my point... something which i have said since day 1 here....

this forum is ruled by Kobetards/Lebron haters.... and there are very few actual intelligent / unbiased posters... like yourself, jlauber, shaqattack, jlip and so on and so on

also.. meanwhile there is maybe 5-10 (max 15-19) Lebron fans in this forum or at least who like Lebron... somewhat lol...... im serious...

I agree, Jlauber is the most intelligent and UNBIASED poster on ISH ever!

[Legends66NBA7]

I agree, Jlauber is the most intelligent and UNBIASED poster on ISH ever!

Heard he repped you today? :D

[millwad]

Heard he repped you today? :D

Haha, oh sweeet irony! :cheers:

[knightfall88]

Pippen.

[L8kersfan222]

change vote to pippen

[BoogieWoogieMan]

I hate myself for saying this, but Lebron.

[Deuce Bigalow]

If my Eugene Zelenoff vote doesn't count, then I'll vote for Reggie Miller.

Reggie votes don't count, he is not a candidate

Honors
1994-95 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
1995-96 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
1997-98 NBA All-NBA (3rd)

All-Star Games
1990 NBA
1995 NBA
1996 NBA
1998 NBA
2000 NBA

Never made an All-NBA 1st Team and only 5 all star selections

[ShaqAttack3234]

Reggie votes don't count, he is not a candidate
and he never made an All-NBA 1st Team in his entire career and only made 3 all nba teams (which were 3rd teams) and only 5 all star teams

If you're trying to make this list as credible as possible, then certainly posters changing votes to see who has a better chance of beating Lebron shouldn't count, right?

[Deuce Bigalow]

If you're trying to make this list as credible as possible, then certainly posters changing votes to see who has a better chance of beating Lebron shouldn't count, right?

What if they feel that Lebron doesnt deserve the spot?
and how am I supposed to know if their doing that or not?

[ShaqAttack3234]

What if they feel that Lebron doesnt deserve the spot?
and how am I supposed to know if their doing that or not?

Some have stated they would change their vote to whoever had a better chance of beating Lebron a few threads back. Just say that votes that are changed will not be counted. If they don't think that Lebron is deserving then they shouldn't vote for him, and if they want to impact the outcome then maybe arguing for the player they're voting for and trying to convince people why Lebron isn't deserving of ranking this high would be more effective.

[WillC]

Rick Barry

Career highlights and awards
NBA Champion (1975)
NBA Finals MVP (1975)
ABA Champion (1969)
8

[WillC]

I grew up idolising Pippen - he was my favourite player.

But he wasn't better than Rick Barry, nor did he have a better career.

[OmniStrife]

Why the hell are people voting for Miller? :roll: :roll: :roll:

You are obviously retarded,
as all the candidates on OPs post are way better than that.


Apparently,
being Ray Allen in the 90s makes you an all-time great.


:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Rnbizzle]

Lebron James.

But yeah this is probable the last time I'm voting in this.

[RRR3]

Why the hell are people voting for Miller? :roll: :roll: :roll:

You are obviously retarded,
as all the candidates on OPs post are way better than that.


Apparently,
being a poor man's Ray Allen in the 90s makes you an all-time great.


:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Fixed

[pegasus]

I vote for Pippen, the real and better Robin.

[D-Wade316]

I vote for Pippen, the real and better Robin.
:no: Lebron is no Robin.

[Richesly]

Lebron should have been higher but to me he's just a incredibly hard player to rate. Let's face it he's played in an era that's very soft where his stats are very inflated. If he came into the league in say 95 his stats would not be what they are. He's not at all as good as his stats say just like a lot of players aren't over the last 5 years in the league. It's going to be difficult to actually compare players from different eras just from the 90s to now because of how much the rules have changed, how less physical the game has become, and how much easier they have made it to score. Frankly Scottie Pippen is regularly regarded as a top 25-30 player, that Lebron James isn't getting votes is yes true because people hate him. Frankly I just don't care about him. I don't hate him. Do I think he's overrated? Yes, mainly because of what I stated above. Everything about his stats are inflated because of the era he plays in. Does that mean I don't think he's a great player? Not necessarily, but it makes it hard for me really to have anything to say about him good or bad or rank him in general.


Ok, I can argue that a lot of the early era stars such as Mikan, Wilt, Russell, Pettit... the list could go on. They were also in weak eras for the most part. Especially Mikan.

[Richesly]

Anyways, I vote for LeBron. People really overrate '90 players. I watched Scottie play. LeBron is better.

[Kovach]

If Lebron James played in the 80's he stats would look like this > 36PPG
And how do you propose he would score so much? By missing open jumpers or by driving inside and being introduced to an elbow, fist, hand or a knee of a hatched-man, which every team of the 80's had at least a couple?

Anyways, my vote is John Stockton.

[Dave3]

And how do you propose he would score so much? By missing open jumpers or by driving inside and being introduced to an elbow, fist, hand or a knee of a hatched-man, which every team of the 80's had at least a couple?

Anyways, my vote is John Stockton.
I'm sorry, but the physicality of the 80's is way overrated. I'm not denying there would be hard fouls, but they were fouls, so you're getting two points.

Not to mention back then guys were much skinnier. I'm not saying they were much less athletic (which is overblown) but they were definitely weaker. To think they were going to foul a 6'8 260 pound LeBron going full speed the same way they can foul the 6'5 190 pound shooting guard driving to the basket. Outside of the ocassional hard foul, defenses in the 80's were nowhere near as strong against slashing players (think about it, what affects a 260 pound perimeter player more, a hand check, or a collapsing defense of 4 bodies?) as defenses are today.

And that's not to mention the fact that LeBron shoots very well on jumpshots. A 45% shooter from 15-23 feet is excellent.

[JMT]

I'm sorry, but the physicality of the 80's is way overrated. I'm not denying there would be hard fouls, but they were fouls, so you're getting two points.

Not to mention back then guys were much skinnier. I'm not saying they were much less athletic (which is overblown) but they were definitely weaker. To think they were going to foul a 6'8 260 pound LeBron going full speed the same way they can foul the 6'5 190 pound shooting guard driving to the basket. Outside of the ocassional hard foul, defenses in the 80's were nowhere near as strong against slashing players (think about it, what affects a 260 pound perimeter player more, a hand check, or a collapsing defense of 4 bodies?) as defenses are today.

And that's not to mention the fact that LeBron shoots very well on jumpshots. A 45% shooter from 15-23 feet is excellent.


Well, he wouldn't have had to face any zones back then, which would prevent him from standing around 25 ft from the hoop looking like a confused 6th grade player. So there's that.

[Dave3]

Well, he wouldn't have had to face any zones back then, which would prevent him from standing around 25 ft from the hoop looking like a confused 6th grade player. So there's that.
He'd have a much easier time getting to the rim, and once there he'd be a better finisher because of his strength and height. Even his jumper now is great, so there would be nothing they can do.

And even the high pace would favour him since he's an excellent fast break player. It's not even the fact that he's LeBron, but more so that the 80's physicality gets crazy overrated by everyone.

[Legends66NBA7]

Outside of the ocassional hard foul, defenses in the 80's were nowhere near as strong against slashing players (think about it, what affects a 260 pound perimeter player more, a hand check, or a collapsing defense of 4 bodies?) as defenses are today.

Bro, I've seen enough clips where they did the same back in those days. They sent more illegal zones (which didn't get called on sometimes), but they also collapsed on players too.

[L8kersfan222]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8A0IejzVoZw/SA9eB0TYlWI/AAAAAAAAAPM/k6enIqDQ_68/s1600/Lebron+James.jpg

[JMT]

He'd have a much easier time getting to the rim, and once there he'd be a better finisher because of his strength and height. Even his jumper now is great, so there would be nothing they can do.

And even the high pace would favour him since he's an excellent fast break player. It's not even the fact that he's LeBron, but more so that the 80's physicality gets crazy overrated by everyone.


You're overlooking the impact that the liberal hand checking rules had on keeping perimeter players from penetrating.

Also, the assumption that the 80's players would be smaller due to nutrition/training, but LeBron would be the same size/speed as today is flawed.

He'd have been a PF in the 80's, and not a very good one with his abyssmal low post game.

[winwin]

Pippen

[Legends66NBA7]

He'd have a much easier time getting to the rim, and once there he'd be a better finisher because of his strength and height.

It's not even the fact that he's LeBron, but more so that the 80's physicality gets crazy overrated by everyone.

We'll agree to disagree here on both accounts here. You should check out some more games and clips (not that I am questioning how much you have watched back on your previous history you missed out on, as have I).

LeBron would be a great player in any era, I agree. But there have been games where he has prove otherwise that his mental games isn't there with actual talent and skill set.

For example, 2011 Finals. I know it's been driven to death, but if a big flaw was shown during those finals about LeBron it's that he is passive. With the defense allowed to be more physical, what make me think that LeBron does not second guess himself going to the paint? Where's his mentality going to be once he gets hammered more by physical big men? No 3 seconds in the paint? Actual centers waiting in the paint to block his shot?

Also, he would not have some of the physical gifts he does now back then because of different era's.

[Legends66NBA7]

You're overlooking the impact that the liberal hand checking rules had on keeping perimeter players from penetrating.

Also, the assumption that the 80's players would be smaller due to nutrition/training, but LeBron would be the same size/speed as today is flawed.

He'd have been a PF in the 80's, and not a very good one with his abyssmal low post game.

I agree.

There's also other things LeBron is missing right now that wouldn't help him back in the 80's: off the ball game, offensive rebounding (for his size), and some basic basketball fundamentals.

[nycelt84]

Rick Barry

[greensborohill]

http://scottbytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/badsports10.jpg


Not even close

[greensborohill]

Rick Barry
those saying Miller are NUTZZ!!

[RRR3]

Not even close
LOL There are not 25 better players than LeBron James in NBA history no matter how much you want to deny it.

[WillC]

LOL There are not 25 better players than LeBron James in NBA history no matter how much you want to deny it.

Maybe not 'better', but this isn't a list of the 'best' as much as it is a list of the 'greatest' players of all-time.

Luke Ridnour might be better than Bob Cousy, but do you think we should vote for Ridnour about Cousy? Of course not.

Rick Barry won a championship and made more All-League teams and more All-Star games than LeBron. He also scored more points.

In a few years LeBron will overtake him. Not yet though.

Same goes for Pippen and other players who should be ahead of LeBron.

[greensborohill]

LOL There are not 25 better players than LeBron James in NBA history no matter how much you want to deny it.

If only the 4th quarter counted, you'd be hard pressed to find 25 players WORSE than LeBron!!

[RRR3]

If only the 4th quarter counted, you'd be hard pressed to find 25 players WORSE than LeBron!!
Is that why he led the league in 4th quarter scoring like three years straight in Cleveland? Is that why he scored 29 of his team's last 30 points against the Pistons in the 4th quarter and OT in the ECF when he was 22 years old and basically a one-man team? Is that he why he destroyed the Celtics and the Bulls this year in the 4th quarters in the playoffs? Whoops!!!! Your agenda is exposed. In b4 you go back to sucking Dirk's balls.

[greensborohill]

Is that why he led the league in 4th quarter scoring like three years straight in Cleveland? Is that why he scored 29 of his team's last 30 points against the Pistons in the 4th quarter and OT in the ECF when he was 22 years old and basically a one-man team? Is that he why he destroyed the Celtics and the Bulls this year in the 4th quarters in the playoffs? Whoops!!!! Your agenda is exposed. In b4 you go back to sucking Dirk's balls.

Go watch 2011 NBA Finals again please. . then get LeBron's salty chocolate ballz outcha mouth!!

4th quarter!!! B!TCH!!!!

[RRR3]

Go watch 2011 NBA Finals again please. . then get LeBron's salty chocolate ballz outcha mouth!!

4th quarter!!! B!TCH!!!!
What surprise you avoided addressing any of what i said and resorted to an extremely unoriginal and immature comment. Maybe you could follow Dirks example and be a good winner instead of acting like deshawn Stevensons retarded stepbrother.

[Fazotronic]

No it wasn't. Tim Duncan over Hakeem Olajuwon. Give me a ****ing break. There are too many little babies who haven't seen shit before the late 90s if even that and shouldn't even have any opinions.


well, than where the **** have you been when me and millwad were arguing hakeem for the nr. 8 spot?

[Sakkreth]

Comedy.

Not gonna vote.

[greensborohill]

What surprise you avoided addressing any of what i said and resorted to an extremely unoriginal and immature comment. Maybe you could follow Dirks example and be a good winner instead of acting like deshawn Stevensons retarded stepbrother.


I did, I told you to go watch the 2011 NBA Finals.

Also, I would be proud to be D-Steve's retarded stepbrother. . . he could teach me how to punkout LeBron James!! "Hey LeBron, tell me how my Dirk taste!!"

[Nash]

Adam Morrison

[inclinerator]

soo wats the vote count?

[Jan95]

Scottie Pippen.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Scottie Pippen

[RobertdeMeijer]

Serious vote:

LeBron James

[Deuce Bigalow]

16 - Scottie Pippen
9 - Lebron James
7 - Rick Barry
2 - John Stockton
1 - Clyde Drexler

Total - 35 votes

[RRR3]

16 - Scottie Pippen
9 - Lebron James
6 - Rick Barry
2 - John Stockton
1 - Clyde Drexler

Total - 34 votes
:facepalm

[JMT]

:facepalm

I know. How did Pippen or LeBron get more votes than Rick Barry?

[SpecialQue]

16 - Scottie Pippen
9 - Lebron James
6 - Rick Barry
2 - John Stockton
1 - Clyde Drexler

Total - 34 votes

Once Pippen starts getting rated this high, it becomes clear that it's time to just end this poll. It was nice while it lasted, until the twats took over.

[hammer2010]

Once Pippen starts getting rated this high, it becomes clear that it's time to just end this poll. It was nice while it lasted, until the twats took over.

The man was one of the best players in the league while playing second fiddle to Jordan. Not to mention he won 6 Championships and was one of the greatest defensive players in NBA history at any position. You know defense, the other half of the game. GTFO 12 year old fakkit!

[Harison]

Barry. What he did in '75 Championship was amazing, even Dream can hardly claim he fought a steeper uphill battle to win the ring. Sure Pippen is more accomplished, but as a sidekick, and Lebron is a better player, but disappears when it matters.

[pauk]

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/disapoint/grand/208ttt0.jpg.gif

[Legends66NBA7]

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/gif/disapoint/grand/208ttt0.jpg.gif

Always wanted this gif. Thanks pauk.

By the way, do you know how to make a gif? If so, could you do a request for me?

[Dragonyeuw]

This list basically turned to shit after 15.

[Legends66NBA7]

Not sure how Real GM's list is "perfect". There seems to be a lot of guys out of place on that list.

That's the thing with lists though. It takes a lot of time and take a lot of thinking involved to rank players.

[Smoke117]

Not sure how Real GM's list is "perfect". There seems to be a lot of guys out of place on that list.

That's the thing with lists though. It takes a lot of time and take a lot of thinking involved to rank players.

Real GM is full of a bunch of of prissy c.unts.

[Legends66NBA7]

Real GM is full of a bunch of of prissy c.unts.

Do you prefer Bleacher Report instead?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237508

:ohwell:

[Smoke117]

Do you prefer Bleacher Report instead?

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=237508

:ohwell:

I don't even remember making that post frankly. lol. Alcoholics don't have good memories. I'm actually confused as to why I care to even make the post to begin with actually lol.

[L8kersfan222]

Always wanted this gif. Thanks pauk.

By the way, do you know how to make a gif? If so, could you do a request for me?
LOL @ u thinking Pauk can make .gifs, he just steals them from Laker fans and reposts :facepalm . Miami Heat fans are talentless hacks.

[Duncan21formvp]

PSD's list

The List:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Magic Johnson
5. Bill Russell
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'neal
8. Kobe Bryant
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Oscar Robertson
12. Moses Malone
13. Jerry West
14. Karl Malone
15. Julius Erving
16. David Robinson
17. Charles Barkley
18. John Stockton
19. George Mikan
20. Kevin Garnett
21. LeBron James
22. Dirk Nowitzki
23. Bob Pettit
24. John Havlicek
25. Elgin Baylor
26. Dwyane Wade
27. Scottie Pippen
28. Rick Barry
29. Isiah Thomas
30. Patrick Ewing
31. Bob Cousy
32. Walt Frazier
33. Clyde Drexler
34. Gary Payton
35. Jason Kidd
36. Kevin Mchale
37. Allen Iverson
38. Steve Nash
39. Bill Walton
40. George Gervin
41. Willis Reed
42. Dominique Wilkins
43. Reggie Miller
44. James Worthy
45. Paul Pierce
46. Sam Jones
47. Elvin Hayes
48. Tracy Mcgrady
49. Robert Parish
50. Alonzo Mourning

[Deuce Bigalow]

PSD's list

The List:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Magic Johnson
5. Bill Russell
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'neal
8. Kobe Bryant
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Oscar Robertson
12. Moses Malone
13. Jerry West
14. Karl Malone
15. Julius Erving
16. David Robinson
17. Charles Barkley
18. John Stockton
19. George Mikan
20. Kevin Garnett
21. LeBron James
22. Dirk Nowitzki
23. Bob Pettit
24. John Havlicek
25. Elgin Baylor
26. Dwyane Wade
27. Scottie Pippen
28. Rick Barry
29. Isiah Thomas
30. Patrick Ewing
31. Bob Cousy
32. Walt Frazier
33. Clyde Drexler
34. Gary Payton
35. Jason Kidd
36. Kevin Mchale
37. Allen Iverson
38. Steve Nash
39. Bill Walton
40. George Gervin
41. Willis Reed
42. Dominique Wilkins
43. Reggie Miller
44. James Worthy
45. Paul Pierce
46. Sam Jones
47. Elvin Hayes
48. Tracy Mcgrady
49. Robert Parish
50. Alonzo Mourning

Yeah you made that JordansBulls :cheers:

[JMT]

maybe i should go join Real GM instead..... seems like the lebron hater kiddies/retards infestation is not equally great there....



Take care! Drive safely.

[Lebron23]

PSD's list

The List:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Magic Johnson
5. Bill Russell
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'neal
8. Kobe Bryant
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Oscar Robertson
12. Moses Malone
13. Jerry West
14. Karl Malone
15. Julius Erving
16. David Robinson
17. Charles Barkley
18. John Stockton
19. George Mikan
20. Kevin Garnett
21. LeBron James
22. Dirk Nowitzki
23. Bob Pettit
24. John Havlicek
25. Elgin Baylor
26. Dwyane Wade
27. Scottie Pippen
28. Rick Barry
29. Isiah Thomas
30. Patrick Ewing
31. Bob Cousy
32. Walt Frazier
33. Clyde Drexler
34. Gary Payton
35. Jason Kidd
36. Kevin Mchale
37. Allen Iverson
38. Steve Nash
39. Bill Walton
40. George Gervin
41. Willis Reed
42. Dominique Wilkins
43. Reggie Miller
44. James Worthy
45. Paul Pierce
46. Sam Jones
47. Elvin Hayes
48. Tracy Mcgrady
49. Robert Parish
50. Alonzo Mourning

This is a much better lists.

[97 bulls]

PSD's list

The List:
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Wilt Chamberlain
4. Magic Johnson
5. Bill Russell
6. Larry Bird
7. Shaquille O'neal
8. Kobe Bryant
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Tim Duncan
11. Oscar Robertson
12. Moses Malone
13. Jerry West
14. Karl Malone
15. Julius Erving
16. David Robinson
17. Charles Barkley
18. John Stockton
19. George Mikan
20. Kevin Garnett
21. LeBron James
22. Dirk Nowitzki
23. Bob Pettit
24. John Havlicek
25. Elgin Baylor
26. Dwyane Wade
27. Scottie Pippen
28. Rick Barry
29. Isiah Thomas
30. Patrick Ewing
31. Bob Cousy
32. Walt Frazier
33. Clyde Drexler
34. Gary Payton
35. Jason Kidd
36. Kevin Mchale
37. Allen Iverson
38. Steve Nash
39. Bill Walton
40. George Gervin
41. Willis Reed
42. Dominique Wilkins
43. Reggie Miller
44. James Worthy
45. Paul Pierce
46. Sam Jones
47. Elvin Hayes
48. Tracy Mcgrady
49. Robert Parish
50. Alonzo Mourning
Where is dennis rodman? How do you leave off a guy that won so many rebounding titles, the dpoy awards, the all-defense team, and five titles? He should be over nash, iverson, wilkins, miller, mcgrady, worthy, payton, kidd, to name a few.