View Full Version : You hear stories of Jordan being an a**hole and a jerk.
ANetsVinSanity15
11-21-2011, 02:58 PM
But who here can tell me that they'd be the SAME exact person they were before becoming so successful ?
Mike had the vast majority of people worshiping him like a God basically his whole NBA life so why wouldn't he be a douche bag? can you sit there and tell me you would be diffrent? it gets to the head.
AlexanderRight
11-21-2011, 03:01 PM
It's called humility.
andgar923
11-21-2011, 03:08 PM
I'm not here to defend him (although this is exactly how it'll come across), but from various accounts he has different sides to him, just like many people that are successful.
I guess it depends on the people and the circumstances.
The Macho Man
11-21-2011, 03:10 PM
I know If I ever got Millions of dollars the first thing I'd do is get a hold of Kwame and call him a f*ggot.
andgar923
11-21-2011, 03:23 PM
I know If I ever got Millions of dollars the first thing I'd do is get a hold of Kwame and call him a f*ggot.
:lol :lol
Actually it's "flaming f@ggot".
305Baller
11-21-2011, 03:28 PM
He always played humble in his post-game comments.
He did a good job with that act.
Here is Chamillionaire account of his MJ experience:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZQERHL6ow
305Baller
11-21-2011, 04:58 PM
Here is Chamillionaire account of his MJ experience:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZQERHL6ow
:roll:
at least he aint no rapist
bwink23
11-21-2011, 05:03 PM
Here is Chamillionaire account of his MJ experience:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4ZQERHL6ow
You know Chamillionaire dresses....i wouldn't want to get a picture with him either....
Kellogs4toniee
11-21-2011, 05:07 PM
I kno for sure I would, and this is coming from a 23 yea old guy... do alot of drugs and party it up that's for sure.
G-train
11-21-2011, 05:08 PM
Jordan is no bigger jerk than most NBA players.
Everything Jordan does is amplified.
artificial
11-21-2011, 05:58 PM
I don't get the point of this thread. Am I supposed to say "Oh, that's right, you can't blame Jordan for being a d*ck. Let's not ever criticize him for that again"?
He is arguably the best ever. But we aren't forced to believe everything he ever did wasn't wrong.
hundreds of millions of dollars didn't change Larry David :D
There's no reason to be an a**hole no matter how successful you are, so they rightfully should be called out on it.
At the same time, I'm not going to assume I know how I'd be if I was in a situation vastly different from my own, like instead of a 9-5 office employee making 5 figures, I'm a professional athlete traveling the globe making 7-8 figures. For example, it gets on my nerves when athletes get criticized for cheating on their wives. Who am I to act all self-righteous and pretend I know how it feels to have the most beautiful women in the world throw themselves at me every time I step into town? I'd like to think I wouldn't be an asshole, but who knows.
eliteballer
11-21-2011, 06:16 PM
Nobody's perfect, who cares?
Jasper
11-21-2011, 07:30 PM
It's called humility.
I was told , after he dunked on an opponent - he apologized to his opponent.
He's nicer than most people think :violin:
DirtySanchez
11-21-2011, 07:37 PM
But who here can tell me that they'd be the SAME exact person they were before becoming so successful ?
Mike had the vast majority of people worshiping him like a God basically his whole NBA life so why wouldn't he be a douche bag? can you sit there and tell me you would be diffrent? it gets to the head.
I agree....
You got to picture it like this as well...nobody treats him like a person anymore you know. Everybody WANTS something from him. Like a picture...an autograph...etc. etc. Some people and very few can shine in the spotlight...most people do OK but hate it. I understand why he is a douche...and if I ever cross path I would treat him as a person. Just talk to him and say whats up that's it.
I meet a couple of players and did just that...
Kobe at Disneyland...Rasheed Wallace in Vegas....D-Fish on Melrose in LA...John Starks in SF....just said whats up and all of them was real cool. Didn't ask for no pictures or autographs etc just introduce myself and that it.
At the end of the day I think they all just want to be treated like regular folks. And they appreciate it if you just show them love and not ask for anything.
Mr. I'm So Rad
11-21-2011, 07:40 PM
at least he aint no rapist
Yup. He's a murderer instead :applause:
Tha Catalyst
11-21-2011, 08:11 PM
There's no reason to be an a**hole no matter how successful you are, so they rightfully should be called out on it.
At the same time, I'm not going to assume I know how I'd be if I was in a situation vastly different from my own, like instead of a 9-5 office employee making 5 figures, I'm a professional athlete traveling the globe making 7-8 figures. For example, it gets on my nerves when athletes get criticized for cheating on their wives. Who am I to act all self-righteous and pretend I know how it feels to have the most beautiful women in the world throw themselves at me every time I step into town? I'd like to think I wouldn't be an asshole, but who knows.
Seconded, well said. MJ may have once been humble and his experiences during his career shaped his personality, who knows?
Everybody knows Michael Jordan is the pettiest douche in the NBA. He's such a douche that sometimes you almost can't believe this is real life. He's an internet troll in real life. It's pretty funny.
I agree....
You got to picture it like this as well...nobody treats him like a person anymore you know. Everybody WANTS something from him. Like a picture...an autograph...etc. etc. Some people and very few can shine in the spotlight...most people do OK but hate it. I understand why he is a douche...and if I ever cross path I would treat him as a person. Just talk to him and say whats up that's it.
I meet a couple of players and did just that...
Kobe at Disneyland...Rasheed Wallace in Vegas....D-Fish on Melrose in LA...John Starks in SF....just said whats up and all of them was real cool. Didn't ask for no pictures or autographs etc just introduce myself and that it.
At the end of the day I think they all just want to be treated like regular folks. And they appreciate it if you just show them love and not ask for anything.
This is a very good point as well. The people that are closest to Jordan know him best. Not the fan or reporter that barely has any interaction with him. That goes for all celebrities.
Asukal
11-21-2011, 09:14 PM
Every person has a bad side, every single one. MJ's bad side is more visible because eyes are on him every time. You can't really judge a person based on stories you hear, its just a slice of who he really is. The only people who knows him inside out are his closest friends and family. :confusedshrug:
Collie
11-21-2011, 09:20 PM
I'm pretty sure he has a good side, but people don't want to hear about that, so they emphasize his asshole-ishness.
Also, I think it's his competitiveness that fuels it. I don't think he would have been as great as he was if he was a goody goody guy. It's not that he was famous, it's just who he is.
The Macho Man
11-21-2011, 09:25 PM
hundreds of millions of dollars didn't change Larry David :D
LD>MJ
305Baller
11-22-2011, 12:26 AM
Yup. He's a murderer instead :applause:
He murdered franchises.
Most of the successful people are also jerks in some way.
We hear stories about how Steve Jobs being an A-hole right, yet he's a superstar and died like one.
Smoke117
11-22-2011, 02:03 AM
Jordan is one of the biggest ****ing pricks the NBA has ever seen. I find it hilarious how it's been swept under the rug too though because he's the "greatest player of all time". Even without the rape scandal, Kobe (who I don't even like and find overrated) always got shit for not having a great personality, but Michael Jordan because of how great he was basically gets a pass from everyone when he's one of the biggest ****ing assholes the NBA has EVER seen. Though to be honest maybe he's just an misanthropist. I can relate to that as I am one. If you don't know what that means it basically means you just hate people in general. Like I find most people I meet to be idiots and maybe Michael did, so maybe we are two peas in a pod except he's 6'6" black and was and athletic stud and made millions and dollars and i'm not...*smirk*
JohnnyWall
11-22-2011, 02:31 AM
Most of the successful people are also jerks in some way.
We hear stories about how Steve Jobs being an A-hole right, yet he's a superstar and died like one.
Steve Jobs had more carte blanche to act that way because he created revolutionary technological devices and changed the daily lives of millions of people for the better.
Jordan played a sport that kids play.
WoGiTaLiA1
11-22-2011, 02:54 AM
Jordan played a sport that kids play.
And changed/influenced plenty of peoples lives doing it.
I love how we are all high and mighty here, don't tell me you've never acted like a dick to someone that annoys you, had a bad day where you didn't feel like talking to someone or anything like that. Why should Jordan be any different because he is rich and famous?
I've told plenty of people to piss off when they are annoying me, if I was rich and famous I'd probably just have to tell more people that.
SpecialQue
11-22-2011, 03:09 AM
Jordan has the "I am going to murder you after I murder your entire family and friends" mentality on the court. Someone like that probably isn't going to be all that pleasant to be around.
He was hyped from his rookie season on. If you're surrounded by groupies and hangers-on telling you what they think you want to hear 24/7, you're going to start treating people like shit because you're sick of it.
Jordan's an asshole and I would never want to meet the guy, but it's kind of dumb to assume that he doesn't have a lifetime of experiences that made him that way.
InspiredLebowski
11-22-2011, 03:11 AM
If I were so rich and famous that it didn't matter how I treated people, bet your ass I'd be a dickhead to the peasants.
RazorBaLade
11-22-2011, 03:22 AM
at least he aint no rapist
who is a convicted rapist in the nba? how did he get allowed back in after serving jail time for being found officially guilty based on the evidence?
JohnnyWall
11-22-2011, 04:53 AM
And changed/influenced plenty of peoples lives doing it.
In what remotely comparable way to Steve Jobs? Providing entertainment to the public?
Yeah, lots of people do that.
http://sharetv.org/images/keeping_up_with_the_kardashians-show.jpg
http://c580019.r19.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/JustinBieber.png
http://breakingbrown.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Madea.jpg
Rooster
11-22-2011, 05:12 AM
Jordan once punched Purdue and Kerr for laying a hard screen on him on practice. And he's known for being vindictive. He get a pass because he knows how to deal with media and he marketed himself real well.
Tha Catalyst
11-22-2011, 05:57 AM
Jordan once punched Purdue and Kerr for laying a hard screen on him on practice. And he's known for being vindictive. He get a pass because he knows how to deal with media and he marketed himself real well.
Truth. He was business smart and knew how to act and market himself for his image. His image was part of his job and dictated his profits. How he acts to random joe (or that idiot Chamillionaire) is not relevant to him as he is a businessman, not a friend. Is Jordan actually good friends with anybody from his playing days? It seems Pippen's comments in the last few years indicate a jealousy/bitterness towards MJ.
DJ Leon Smith
11-22-2011, 06:03 AM
Jordan is one of the biggest ****ing pricks the NBA has ever seen. I find it hilarious how it's been swept under the rug too though because he's the "greatest player of all time".
How has it been swept under the rug when entire (and best-selling) books have been written about it?
I think most people know Jordan was an asshole, but most mega-competitive/successful people are to some degree. I can't stand Kobe but I'll take his asshole ways over a "superstar" who doesn't have the fire to demand success from himself and his team, from front office to 12th man.
NumberSix
11-22-2011, 07:00 AM
He might be a jerk, but hey, at least he's Michael Jordan. The majority of the douchebags on here are relentless jerks even though they've never accomplished a single thing in their lives.
Rooster
11-22-2011, 07:05 AM
Truth. He was business smart and knew how to act and market himself for his image. His image was part of his job and dictated his profits. How he acts to random joe (or that idiot Chamillionaire) is not relevant to him as he is a businessman, not a friend. Is Jordan actually good friends with anybody from his playing days? It seems Pippen's comments in the last few years indicate a jealousy/bitterness towards MJ.
His speech in the HOF pretty much summarized what he's all about, conspicuously still bitter. It's just hard to fathom that a great player like that still was in spiteful and resentment toward others who slighted him even bringing a high school player that his coach passed over him to prove a point. Everyone knows he has nothing to prove. But because he is a media darling and a winner he got a passed. Some people actually praised hi for being original and candid but to me he came across as a sore winner. Maybe he is just wired like that.
And Pippen, he should be grateful to another prick Jerry Krause. He wanted
Krause to draft Joe Wolf but Jerry Krause has his own mind and drafted Pippen.
DJ Leon Smith
11-22-2011, 07:15 AM
But because he is a media darling and a winner he got a passed.
As I said to the other guy, how did he get "a passed" about being an asshole when entire books were written about how he was/is an asshole.
Plus the fact there seems to be a new "Jordan is an asshole" thread here every day, I'm not sure who's giving him a pass. Fans aren't, media aren't, so who is?
Truth. He was business smart and knew how to act and market himself for his image. His image was part of his job and dictated his profits. How he acts to random joe (or that idiot Chamillionaire) is not relevant to him as he is a businessman, not a friend. Is Jordan actually good friends with anybody from his playing days? It seems Pippen's comments in the last few years indicate a jealousy/bitterness towards MJ.
Agreed.
Not only Pippen but many of his opponents as well. Mark jackson and greg anthony are so quick to over praise Kobe as to spite MJ for the abuse they got from him (on the court from the trash talking).
As I said to the other guy, how did he get "a passed" about being an asshole when entire books were written about how he was/is an asshole.
Plus the fact there seems to be a new "Jordan is an asshole" thread here every day, I'm not sure who's giving him a pass. Fans aren't, media aren't, so who is?
His fan boys will tolerate that from him and will justify as competitiveness or "he's just being Mike."
Sam Smith who wrote the Jordan Rules in the early 90s definitely showed the readers MJ's true colors but somehow this book became an after thought.
Years later, an author (whose names escapes me) wrote the book Playing with Keeps and in it too showed some of MJ's less attractive moments but this author was obviously a fan boy and managed to downplay MJ's rude moments as a parent who should downplay a spoiled child.
As many as people are giving him a pass, there will an equal amount of people who won't
Rnbizzle
11-22-2011, 07:27 AM
Agreed.
Not only Pippen but many of his opponents as well. Mark jackson and greg anthony are so quick to over praise Kobe as to spite MJ for the abuse they got from him (on the court from the trash talking).
I'm sure those grown ass man still can't get over that :facepalm
Yup. He's a murderer instead :applause:
Stop making up stuff.
Truth. He was business smart and knew how to act and market himself for his image. His image was part of his job and dictated his profits. How he acts to random joe (or that idiot Chamillionaire) is not relevant to him as he is a businessman, not a friend. Is Jordan actually good friends with anybody from his playing days? It seems Pippen's comments in the last few years indicate a jealousy/bitterness towards MJ.
He's definitely good friends with Barkley and Oakley (funny cause those two hate each other) and it looks like he's good friends with Pippen. Who knows though.
But what I found funny is that although you hear these stories about him, you don't hear any of the thousands of teammates/coaches/opponents come out and say how horrible of a guy he was. You would think this would be the case for someone thats supposedly such a prick.
OhNoTimNoSho
11-22-2011, 10:14 AM
I see both sides of the argument and wether his assholishness is justified or not and honestly once you get older and get a certain understanding of the world, you realize that yes some people are basically much more important than other people. It is what it is. For it to be ok for Jordan to be an asshole to everyone just isn't cool. He has to understand who he is and the impact he has on people. And I think hes very well aware of that. And the reason hes such a douche is that hes just a miserable person. Hes always been a miserable person throughout his career, I think it was all magnified when his father died and afterwards there was just no way for him to find happiness. Other than competing of course. But that is temporary. Just think about it, all his glory days are behind him, he is the most accomplished player ever and yet I bet he still wonders why he is so miserable. After his career, what is there to do for him on a daily basis? Thats why hes a compulsive gambler and all that. I actually feel bad for Jordan, he can never be a normal person. His life must be a depressing hell now. So that is why, I think, hes such a douche.
knightfall88
11-22-2011, 10:28 AM
But what I found funny is that although you hear these stories about him, you don't hear any of the thousands of teammates/coaches/opponents come out and say how horrible of a guy he was. You would think this would be the case for someone thats supposedly such a prick.
Well obviously you don't understand just how powerful MJ is. You do not make someone like MJ your enemy especially publicly.
And to reiterate, MJ's vindictiveness is why he's so successful, he gets gratification from fcking people over. Nothing wrong with that, many powerful and successful people are.
cbombdotcom
11-22-2011, 11:33 AM
As a Jordan fan, I think the most disheartening thing about his journey thus far is that the guy is still mad. He's still upset, hurt and embittered over slights that happened years and years ago. You've risen from a skinny, country boy to the apex of the sport at the high school, collegiate, amateur, professional and Olympic levels. You transcended sports in a way that few (if any) other people have, influenced everything from bald heads, to fashion, to baggy shorts, to hip hop culture and terminology. Nike, Gatorade and McDonald's should present you with lifetime achievement awards for the face time you've given them. You are arguably (and without question to some) the greatest player in a league with a 65 year history. You have one of the most recognizable logos this world over. You broke records, sold out arenas and left an indelible impact on the game that cannot be duplicated. Millions of kids hit the courts and playgrounds trying to be you; trying to stick there tongues out, go for reverse layups with the handslap, hit fadeaways and switch hands. You are the reason some people ever got into basketball. You were dope, you were cool, you were the man...and you're rich...and you're STILL bitter? You've done everything and yet, it still eats you up inside that Leroy Smith made varsity your sophomore year and you didn't? When they needed size and you were too small? And after making varsity the very next year and proving that they were wrong then? :facepalm His H.O.F. speech is a little sad because you know what you're hearing aren't the words of a megastar icon, but the insecurities of a young kid that would go out of his way to destroy anyone who dared remove that chip from his shoulder. I guess his ultra competitive nature really is a double-edged sword. It plus money, fame, yes men, etc. isn't the greatest combo.
Well obviously you don't understand just how powerful MJ is. You do not make someone like MJ your enemy especially publicly.
And to reiterate, MJ's vindictiveness is why he's so successful, he gets gratification from fcking people over. Nothing wrong with that, many powerful and successful people are.
Jordan played with numerous scrubs through HS, College, and the Pros that it really wouldn't effect otherwise because they really aren't high up in those circles, or in those circles at all. Hell, Sam Smith's career has been going strong for 20 years since the Jordan Rules.
I'm sure alot of it is blown out of proportion. His squeaky clean great role model character is blown out of proportion and this complete evil asshole character is blown out of proportion. And I think you could probably say that about alot of public figures.
Mr. I'm So Rad
11-22-2011, 01:15 PM
Stop making up stuff.
You should tell that to the troll I quoted
Legends66NBA7
11-22-2011, 01:17 PM
You should tell that to the troll I quoted
So why even respond? If you know he's a troll, why then would you feed a troll?
If it's going to make you upset about something, click ignore and move one.
So why even respond? If you know he's a troll, why then would you feed a troll?
If it's going to make you upset about something, click ignore and move one.
He had to defend Kobe's honor :oldlol:
Legends66NBA7
11-22-2011, 01:24 PM
He had to defend Kobe's honor :oldlol:
That B.S. from both sides is so stupid man. Neither of those men give a damn about who's defending their "honor" and are both scum to me as people off the court (offcourse they do give back to the community and have more influence, but just their personality).
I would never defend either of them as people from what history suggests to me. That's just me though.
Mr. I'm So Rad
11-22-2011, 01:29 PM
So why even respond? If you know he's a troll, why then would you feed a troll?
If it's going to make you upset about something, click ignore and move one.
I'm not really upset about it :oldlol: I probably would have made a joke about Jordan murdering his pops even if that guy didn't even post in here.
My previous comment was just for the sake of Randy responding to me.
I'm not really upset about it :oldlol: I probably would have made a joke about Jordan murdering his pops even if that guy didn't even post in here.
My previous comment was just for the sake of Randy responding to me.
How do you know what my username stands for? :confusedshrug:
Mr. I'm So Rad
11-22-2011, 02:01 PM
How do you know what my username stands for? :confusedshrug:
Because when you first started posting here, before you became obsessed with Ida, your title said "Randy Rhoades Rules"
Legends66NBA7
11-22-2011, 02:04 PM
Because when you first started posting here, before you became obsessed with Ida, your title said "Randy Rhoades Rules"
So that's what RRR stands for...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_uLYbic99bDY/TUoMdRxVbWI/AAAAAAAAAco/As0DV9rVgMk/s1600/TheMoreYouKnow.gif
KenneBell
11-22-2011, 02:45 PM
I'm sure alot of it is blown out of proportion.
It isn't. Steve Smith told me that he's just generally not a nice person to be around (ie asshole)these days.
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