So Drake sells 660,000 copies in 1 week. How does that make you fakkit elitists feel?

[Premeditated]

does it hurt you all that Hip Hop is at it's strongest it's ever been in a while during a era you all hate?

let it burns fakkits!!!

Drake, Wale, Cole, Big Sean, Mac Miller, Cudi Wiz are all selling better than the new rappers that came out the past few years.

These are the new faces of hip hop, so you all best get use to it. On top of that we have the established artist already like Kanye, Lupe and Ross putting the music industry on notice.

On top of that, we have Princess RiRi on our side.

Hip Hop right now is the genre that running sh1t right now.

Current Hip Hop>>>>>late 90s-mid 00s hip hop.

[RRR3]

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7591/pacsmoking.gif

[kentatm]

yea, you are still acting like a fat ass brat who lives in your white parents suburban basement.


why you always frontin brah?

[Premeditated]

yea, you are still acting like a fat ass brat who lives in your white parents suburban basement.


why you always frontin brah?
dude what fukk?

what have I ever done to you?:lol

such an asshole.

[kentatm]

dude what fukk?

what have I ever done to you?:lol


:oldlol:


nothing brah

just trying to help you out of your defensive shell :D

[RRR3]

2Pac's reaction to Premediated thinking Drake is a good rapper....
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjv6jwRmj1qbczz8.gif

[L.Kizzle]

Ghostface Killah >>> Drake

[RRR3]

Ghostface Killah >>> Drake
:applause: :applause: :applause:
Speaking of the devil psych, no it's the God, get the shit right
Mega trife, and you're I killed you in a past life
On the mic while you was kicking that fast shit
You reneged tried again, and got blasted
Half mastered ass style mad ruff task
When I struck I had on Timbs and a black mask
Remember that shit? I know you don't remember jack
That night yo I was hitting like a spiked bat
and then you thought I was bugged out, and crazy
strapped for nonsense, after me became lazy
yo, nobody budge while I shot slugs
Never shot thugs, I'm running with thugs that flood mugs
So grab your eight plus one, start flipping and tripping
****** is jetting I'm licking off son

[Premeditated]

2Pac's reaction to Premediated thinking Drake is a good rapper....
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjv6jwRmj1qbczz8.gif
he is though.

Put them in a freestyle battle and Pac is getting eating alive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3skyye7TkYk

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjv6jwRmj1qbczz8.gif

[RRR3]

he is though.

Put them in a freestyle battle and Pac is getting eating alive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3skyye7TkYk

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjv6jwRmj1qbczz8.gif
Except 2Pac was actually a good freestyler and Drake is garbage :rolleyes:
Freestyling wasn't really 2Pac's thing in general because a lot of his songs were him really thinking deeply about something and putting his heart into it. Big L would rape both of them in freestyling anyways.

[MMM]

Current Hip Hop>>>>>late 90s-mid 00s hip hop.

Late to mid 00's hip hop wasn't that good because it seems that is when it started going down hill but as an era it is still vastly superior to today's crap.

[hammer2010]

Late to mid 00's hip hop wasn't that good because it seems that is when it started going down hill but as an era it is still vastly superior to today's crap.

WTF! Hip hop right now is atrocious. At least the popular stuff.

[RRR3]

Rappers better than Drake off the top of my head (no order)

2Pac
Big L
Big Pun
Nas
Biggie Smalls
KRS-ONE
Mos Def
Immortal Technique
Rakim
GZA the Genius
Ice Cube
Ice-T
Eminem
AZ
Pharoahe Monch
Raekwon
ODB
Method Man
RZA
Inspectah Deck
TECH-N9NE
Brother Ali
Kool G Rap
Canibus
Common
Lupe Fiasco
Run
DMC
Chuck D
Lord Finesse
Ghostface Killah
Killah Priest
Masta Killa
U-God
Shyheim
Big Daddy Kane
Jay-Z
Scarface
Murs
Kurupt
Snoop Dogg
MC Ren
Eazy-E
Dr. Dre
Talib Kweli
Vinnie Paz (Jedi Mind Tricks)
R.A. the Rugged Man
Reks
Black Thought
Eyedea
Slug
....and many more
:sleeping

[Premeditated]

Except 2Pac was actually a good freestyler and Drake is garbage :rolleyes:
Freestyling wasn't really 2Pac's thing in general because a lot of his songs were him really thinking deeply about something and putting his heart into it. Big L would rape both of them in freestyling anyways.
:lol

did you not see the link I posted? What part of that freestyle was good. That's somehow you and your homeboys rap when you're freestyling in the cafeteria in 4th grade. not when you're that old and a suppose accomplished rapper. How I found this Kid Cudi freestle to be 10times better:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceP4b2Z43qsAnd we all know Cudi ain't the best lyricist.:roll:

[RRR3]

:lol

did you not see the link I posted? What part of that freestyle was good. That's somehow you and your homeboys rap when you're freestyling in the cafeteria in 4th grade. not when you're that old and a suppose accomplished rapper. How I found this Kid Cudi freestle to be 10times better:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceP4b2Z43qsAnd we all know Cudi ain't the best lyricist.:roll:

No one cares about your weird creepy obsession with 2Pac (butthurt Drake stan :roll: ). I have that song on my iPod, no point discussing 2Pac with you because you are unable to be objective about him apparently. Get back to me when Drake can actually rap. :sleeping

[MMM]

WTF! Hip hop right now is atrocious. At least the popular stuff.

yes that is what i said but late 90's/00's wasn't good as well but vastly superior in comparison. late 80's/early 90's and mid 90's is where hip hop was at it's peak.

[Premeditated]

Rappers better than Drake off the top of my head (no order)

2Pac
Big L
Big Pun
Nas
Biggie Smalls
KRS-ONE
Mos Def
Immortal Technique
Rakim
GZA the Genius
Ice Cube
Ice-T
Eminem
AZ
Pharoahe Monch
Raekwon
ODB
Method Man
RZA
Inspectah Deck
TECH-N9NE
Brother Ali
Kool G Rap
Canibus
Common
Lupe Fiasco
Run
DMC
Chuck D
Lord Finesse
Ghostface Killah
Killah Priest
Masta Killa
U-God
Shyheim
Big Daddy Kane
Jay-Z
Scarface
Murs
Kurupt
Snoop Dogg
MC Ren
Eazy-E
Dr. Dre
Talib Kweli
Vinnie Paz (Jedi Mind Tricks)
R.A. the Rugged Man
Reks
Black Thought
Eyedea
Slug
....and many more
:sleeping
http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/laff.gif

now I know you were just listing anyone you could think of.

[RRR3]

http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/laff.gif

now I know you were just listing anyone you could think of.
No I wasn't. I never said everyone on that list was great did I? Drake is trash, Fat Joe is a better rapper than that fool. :roll:

[Premeditated]

No one cares about your weird creepy obsession with 2Pac (butthurt Drake stan :roll: ). I have that song on my iPod, no point discussing 2Pac with you because you are unable to be objective about him apparently. Get back to me when Drake can actually rap. :sleeping
All I've ever said was, he's not that good of a rapper compared to others. I didn't say he wasn't a good artist. I like Biggie better as a rapper, but even I know Pac is the better artist because he talked about more things and was a better song maker.

























































































but he's still not better than Drizzy in rapping or making good songs though.

[MMM]

No I wasn't. I never said everyone on that list was great did I? Drake is trash, Fat Joe is a better rapper than that fool. :roll:

I was surprised by how wack most of fat joe albums were but every now and then he puts up a great verse.

[Bless Mathews]

does it hurt you all that Hip Hop is at it's strongest it's ever been in a while during a era you all hate?

let it burns fakkits!!!

Drake, Wale, Cole, Big Sean, Mac Miller, Cudi Wiz are all selling better than the new rappers that came out the past few years.

These are the new faces of hip hop, so you all best get use to it. On top of that we have the established artist already like Kanye, Lupe and Ross putting the music industry on notice.

On top of that, we have Princess RiRi on our side.

Hip Hop right now is the genre that running sh1t right now.

Current Hip Hop>>>>>late 90s-mid 00s hip hop.


I smack the s.h.I.t. out of you if I was next to you...

Todays Shit IS NOT EVEN HIP HOP!! IT'S CRAP RAP!!!

Shit IS on some old fake, sissy boy, skinny jean wearing bean smoking clicks that well their soul to be puppets for all the white jews that run the record industry.

Corny Ass n.I.g.g.a.s. watered down homo erotic Shit.

[Premeditated]

No I wasn't. I never said everyone on that list was great did I? Drake is trash, Fat Joe is a better rapper than that fool. :roll:
fat Joe is also a better lyricist than Pac, but that's for another thread.

My point is, Hip Hop in 2011 is winning right now compared to all the other genres and the hip hop elitists who hang on to the past are eating their words right now. B....b....but I though hip hop was dead.:roll:

I can't believe you really said Snoop Dogg and Run DMC are better MCs.:roll:

[MMM]

all other genre's of music have gone down hill as well; rock, country, r&b, etc. so saying rap is winning currently doesn't say much

[Skywalker]

2Pac's reaction to Premediated thinking Drake is a good rapper....
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjv6jwRmj1qbczz8.gif

I think that was more him conducting an interview until you put your mouth on his cawk

[iggy>]

I do it, boiiiiiii

[Premeditated]

I smack the s.h.I.t. out of you if I was next to you...

Todays Shit IS NOT EVEN HIP HOP!! IT'S CRAP RAP!!!

Shit IS on some old fake, sissy boy, skinny jean wearing bean smoking clicks that well their soul to be puppets for all the white jews that run the record industry.

Corny Ass n.I.g.g.a.s. watered down homo erotic Shit.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Dioymv9lmkI/TawhVyoSPxI/AAAAAAAAADg/NkVnoTD4xo0/s1600/RUN-DMC-5-2web.jpg

http://waitslowdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Hip-Hop-Fashion.jpg

these dudes out here wearing tight leather booty shorts with brown uggs and another dude looking like the red Power Ranger and you want to talk about this era dressing being fakkits?:roll:

I would smack the passion fruit outta you if you ever speak to me in that kind of tone again.

[Kblaze8855]

Ice T? DMc? Easy E? Ra the Rugged man? Doctor dre? better at rapping than Drake?

Yea....thats just hating over fame there.

Drake is a singer/rapper kinda hybrid...but hes sure as hell rapping better on Aston Martin Music than Easy E talking about crusing down the street in his 64 slapping hoes. Or Dre getting rhymes written for him and not even rapping them well.

[StroShow4]

Drake f@cking BLOWS.



Just thought I'd put that out there.

[Premeditated]

Ice T? DMc? Easy E? Ra the Rugged man? Doctor dre? better at rapping than Drake?

Yea....thats just hating over fame there.

Drake is a singer/rapper kinda hybrid...but hes sure as hell rapping better on Aston Martin Music than Easy E talking about crusing down the street in his 64 slapping hoes. Or Dre getting rhymes written for him and not even rapping them well.
worst of all easy e wasn't even writing those nursery rhymes. Ice Cube was such an asshole for writing hideous verses for Dre and E and keeping the best ones for himself.:roll:

[ThemBombs]

Drake f@cking BLOWS.



Just thought I'd put that out there.
that's just mindless hatred.
if he left YMCMB and joined Roc Nation or started his own damn label and started finding new rappers he wouldn't have a quarter of the haters he has right now.

[StroShow4]

that's just mindless hatred.

It's not mindless. His music is bad. It makes my mind hurt.

[Premeditated]

It's not mindless. His music is bad. It makes my mind hurt.
blasphemous statement.


reported

[StroShow4]

reported

I'm the moderator. :oldlol:

Well, actually, not in this section. Oh sh!t, you got me!

[Kblaze8855]

Yes you know cube was capable of more. He writes bird in the hand and they spit that garbage?

And people listing them as better rappers than drake? They dont write rhymes so thats out. What is it? Flow? E wasnt producing really.....he might have gotten a credit or two but he wasnt a straight up producer. He didnt write his rhymes. The rhymes written fro him were mostly garbage. And his flow was just him talking for the most part. He wasnt much better than a silk the shocker flow wise.

But hes better than drake?

Im old enough to remember when nwa was big. Easy was NEVER a good rapper. Funny at times but thats it. He was the birdman of the 80s. A businessman on records rapping to have his face out there.

He couldnt write or rap like drake on his best day.

[Bless Mathews]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Dioymv9lmkI/TawhVyoSPxI/AAAAAAAAADg/NkVnoTD4xo0/s1600/RUN-DMC-5-2web.jpg

http://waitslowdown.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Hip-Hop-Fashion.jpg

these dudes out here wearing tight leather booty shorts with brown uggs and another dude looking like the red Power Ranger and you want to talk about this era dressing being fakkits?:roll:

I would smack the passion fruit outta you if you ever speak to me in that kind of tone again.

we are typing.

Thats that funky, parliament, outlandish, styles son. Wear tight shorts to show off your big c.o.c.k. , so later at the swinger party, when you snorting lines with belinda carlisle at the award party, she gonna know you don't play. That's hip hop kid.

Jeans with your Ass hanging out is not hip hop, that s emo, moby listening , suburb s.h.I.t. get th e f.u.c.k. outta here.

The run dmc Shit is a running suit. Just a bad color from the times. A running suit ain't the STYLE of hip hop????

[Kblaze8855]

You cant defend some of that shit homie. You had dudes in prince assless jeans mean mugging with sparkling gloves. Compared to that whats a skinny jean?

[verylegit]

It's not mindless. His music is bad. It makes my mind hurt.
i shouldn't be bringing up stuff from the past, my therapist would frown but wtf dude. you know whats mindless? when you made the argument of stromile swift being good for his "good dunks" and you bashed kanye. music is subjective but it is UNARGUABLE that Kanye, an elite, genius has made worthy contributions to hip hop and is much mroe relevant to his league(aka hip hop/rap) than stromile swift is to the nba. got damn it dude. :facepalm

you can say liking an athlete for something other than his athletic success is subjective as well but the argument is that kanye is and has been relevant to his world(hip hop) for some time. stro? when's the last thread of stromile appear on ish? kanye has appeared plenty of times this year on a BASKETBALL forum :eek:

[StroShow4]

Disagree with StroShow? Bring up Stromile Swift!



That sh!t is tired, man. By the way, show me a post where I claimed that Stromile Swift was some sort of great NBA basketball player. Hell, show me one where I said he was even good. I've said he's a good dunker, which is true... other than that? I liked watching him play. Doesn't mean I think he was any good in the NBA. He obviously wasn't.

[verylegit]

Disagree with StroShow? Bring up Stromile Swift!



That sh!t is tired, man. By the way, show me a post where I claimed that Stromile Swift was some sort of great NBA basketball player. Hell, show me one where I said he was even good. I've said he's a good dunker, which is true... other than that? I liked watching him play. Doesn't mean I think he was any good in the NBA. He obviously wasn't.
james mfer white was a good dunker. but i guess it is unorignal to attack stromile swift when trying to argue with you but kanye makes good music, its subjective to a certain extent because not just mainstream listeners like his stuff.

[StroShow4]

james mfer white was a good dunker. but i guess it is unorignal to attack stromile swift when trying to argue with you but kanye makes good music, its subjective to a certain extent because not just mainstream listeners like his stuff.

I don't get what James White and Stromile Swift have to do with me not liking Kanye and Drake's music.

[verylegit]

I don't get what James White and Stromile Swift have to do with me not liking Kanye and Drake's music.u said something that kanye sucks blah blah i'm a big cool nba moderator and then i responded kanye=elite/relevant - stro=cant hold roster spot and you responded stro=spectacular dunks kanye=terrible music

yes, i bring old sh!t up.

[hammer2010]

So 15 year old air head b*tches who are the only segment of the population that still buy cds proves Drakes GOAT? :facepalm

[ballup]

Sorry OP, but the current music is generally really crappy. It's extremely hard to even listen to a local radio station. There are some decent songs once in a while, but no way should this era be praised as a good one.

FYI, Drake is overrated and Rihanna has become pretty "eh".

[StroShow4]

big cool nba moderator

Thanks man! I appreciate it.


I didn't read the rest.

[iggy>]

So 15 year old air head b*tches who are the only segment of the population that still buy cds proves Drakes GOAT? :facepalm
No one said anything about goats.

[verylegit]

Thanks man! I appreciate it.


I didn't read the rest.
:roll:lol jerk

[ace23]

Selling more does not make one a better rapper. Didnt't Mac Miller's album debut at #1?

[Premeditated]

Sorry OP, but the current music is generally really crappy. It's extremely hard to even listen to a local radio station. There are some decent songs once in a while, but no way should this era be praised as a good one.

FYI, Drake is overrated and Rihanna has become pretty "eh".
remind me to neg you the first chance I get once I get green bars. Also, you are currently on my ban request list.

[EnoughSaid]

Even Jay-A >>>> Drake. :lol

[ballup]

remind me to neg you the first chance I get once I get green bars. Also, you are currently on my ban request list.
Guess what? I won't let you get green bars! :banana:

[Phoenix19]

kanye has made some great music, but maybe rap would have been better without his existence.

Agreed completely.

[Premeditated]

kanye has made some great music, but maybe rap would have been better without his existence.
this says alot coming from a guy who stans Kreayshawn and Flocka.
http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/laff.gif

[daballa13]

Drake is soooooooooo trash. They play this guys shit nonstop here in Toronto and its crazy because he's so bad at rapping. 'Oh you think you a mufukin funny guy, don't make me break yo kevin hart boy'. WTF IS THAT!?

[G-train]

Most rap is terrible.
Y'all just used to terrible.

[kentatm]

remind me to neg you the first chance I get once I get green bars. Also, you are currently on my ban request list.

gonna take some work to get you up in the green

[Timmy D for MVP]

It makes me feel like people don't know what they're doing.

I walked into an F.Y.E. and they had top selling and it was just shit after shit after shit.

[DonDadda59]

The latest twilight movie raked in $138 million over the weekend, one of the biggest openings ever. Pretty much the same thing here, with most likely the same demographic in both cases.

[Premeditated]

The latest twilight movie raked in $138 million over the weekend, one of the biggest openings ever. Pretty much the same thing here, with most likely the same demographic in both cases.
Drake fans and Twilight fans aren't the same audience b.

[DonDadda59]

Drake fans and Twilight fans aren't the same audience b.

If you say so.

[Timmy D for MVP]

Drake fans and Twilight fans aren't the same audience b.

No actually now that I think about it... pretty much everyone I know that listens to Drake would go see Twilight...

DonDadda just blew my mind! :eek:

[LBJMVP]

if anyone says drake isnt talented then they are just jealous as shit.

there is a reason someones album is the 3rd biggest sale of the year, and it isnt because he is garbage.

the album is great.

[ballinhun8]

In this day of age it is impressive that he was able to sell that many copies.


And I agree with kblaze on this one. He is more of a hybrid rapper/singer. To compare him with other guys of older times isn't the best comparison cuz thsre aren't many hybrids out there. But unlike some other rappers coming out now, Drake ain't all hype (cole, mac main, cudi).



Lets remember. People are paying for his CD. They could easily find it online and download it for free so it says something that they're going out to buy it in this generation we live in. You cant say the same for movies.

The twilight comparison is stupid.

[Premeditated]

No actually now that I think about it... pretty much everyone I know that listens to Drake would go see Twilight...

DonDadda just blew my mind! :eek:
When I went to see Eclipse (the last time I ever see a Twilight movie), all I saw was comic book looking nerds and girls who look like they've never even heard of the word rap.

[DonDadda59]

When I went to see Eclipse (the last time I ever see a Twilight movie), all I saw was comic book looking nerds and girls who look like they've never even heard of the word rap.

And you were among them, you paid to see a twilight flick, and then you bought a drake CD... put it together... what does that tell you?

[Timmy D for MVP]

When I went to see Eclipse (the last time I ever see a Twilight movie), all I saw was comic book looking nerds and girls who look like they've never even heard of the word rap.

Certainly a lower percentage of Twilight fans are Drake fans.

But every Drake fan that I personally know would indeed classify as at least being interested in the Twilight... thing.

And sure he's talented it's impossible to get that far without a little bit of talent. But more so than a shit ton of other artists? No. More than struggling artists? No. More than some guy I know? No.

He's like the Channing Tatum of rappers... no he's not that bad, but he's like the CT of famous rappers.

[DonDadda59]

branslowski loves twilight, loves unconditionally both wayne and drake......

These are not coincidences. I guarantee you that as soon as they got through watching twilight, that... let's stick with demographic, went to wal mart immediately after and bought drake's new CD. GUARAN-DAMN-TEE.

[L.Kizzle]

In this day of age it is impressive that he was able to sell that many copies.


And I agree with kblaze on this one. He is more of a hybrid rapper/singer. To compare him with other guys of older times isn't the best comparison cuz thsre aren't many hybrids out there. But unlike some other rappers coming out now, Drake ain't all hype (cole, mac main, cudi).



Lets remember. People are paying for his CD. They could easily find it online and download it for free so it says something that they're going out to buy it in this generation we live in. You cant say the same for movies.

The twilight comparison is stupid.
Drake is not a singer. Dude can't sing without autotune.

[talkingconch]

Rappers better than Drake off the top of my head (no order)

2Pac
Big L
Big Pun
Nas
Biggie Smalls
KRS-ONE
Mos Def
Immortal Technique
Rakim
GZA the Genius
Ice Cube
Ice-T
Eminem
AZ
Pharoahe Monch
Raekwon
ODB
Method Man
RZA
Inspectah Deck
TECH-N9NE
Brother Ali
Kool G Rap
Canibus
Common
Lupe Fiasco
Run
DMC
Chuck D
Lord Finesse
Ghostface Killah
Killah Priest
Masta Killa
U-God
Shyheim
Big Daddy Kane
Jay-Z
Scarface
Murs
Kurupt
Snoop Dogg
MC Ren
Eazy-E
Dr. Dre
Talib Kweli
Vinnie Paz (Jedi Mind Tricks)
R.A. the Rugged Man
Reks
Black Thought
Eyedea
Slug
....and many more
:sleeping

Hey look finally a nice list. people need to get to know more of these, enough of this mainstream HES NUMBAH 1 LOL crap

Drake is nowhere the best rofl, hes good i like em but not the best :facepalm

[LBJMVP]

Drake is not a singer. Dude can't sing without autotune.

autotune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui86peQZ74s

not autotune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2isladsol9k

[L.Kizzle]

autotune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui86peQZ74s

not autotune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2isladsol9k
You post Marvin's Room as an example of singing, seriously lol. You can do better than that.

[L.Kizzle]

so what is singing with autotune called?
If you can sing, what's the need for autotune?

[Premeditated]

I've learn not to argue with L Kizzle when it comes to Drake. No matter what you tell him, he will still continue to blind hate Drizzy the Jew.

[L.Kizzle]

I've learn not to argue with L Kizzle when it comes to Drake. No matter what you tell him, he will still continue to blind hate Drizzy the Jew.
I'm not hating on Drake. I said he can't sing.

[IamSofaKing]

Maybe its cause im from Toronto but Drake isnt a bad artist.. Albeit a mediocre rapper, but his shits easier to listen to than most rappers these days..

[L.Kizzle]

creative choice........
It's creative if you use it right ...

[LBJMVP]

You post Marvin's Room as an example of singing, seriously lol. You can do better than that.


:mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIKD7bpcRC8

yes, you can tell the studio messed with his voice a little, but still he is a talented singer.

[L.Kizzle]

Maybe its cause im from Toronto but Drake isnt a bad artist.. Albeit a mediocre rapper, but his shits easier to listen to than most rappers these days..
The hell is easy rap??

[L.Kizzle]

:mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIKD7bpcRC8

yes, you can tell the studio messed with his voice a little, but still he is a talented singer.
Damn, so not only is he a great rapper he's also a talented singer. Marvin Gaye is a talented singer, Freddie Mercury is a talented singer. Drake is a rapper that sings on his songs, nothin more.

Saying Drake is a talented singer is like saying Chris Brown is a talented rapper. Just cause they do it don't mean they are good at it.

[LBJMVP]

Damn, so not only is he a great rapper he's also a talented singer. Marvin Gaye is a talented singer, Freddie Mercury is a talented singer. Drake is a rapper that sings on his songs, nothin more.

Saying Drake is a talented singer is like saying Chris Brown is a talented rapper. Just cause they do it don't mean they are good at it.


opinion

[1manfastbreak]

can't deny that drake is a pretty damn good rapper. . always comes with a solid flow and is pretty clever. i dont care much for his softer slow songs though.

how about the 2 shoutouts drake gave Mac Dre on his cd? i wonder who put him on to MD?

[L.Kizzle]

opinion
Some things are opinion, what I posted is a fact.

Damn, who do you consider talented singers, if you hold a rapper so high up on the singing scale, lol. :lol

[LBJMVP]

Some things are opinion, what I posted is a fact.

Damn, who do you consider talented singers, if you hold a rapper so high up on the singing scale, lol. :lol

:lol i dont think you know the definition of opinion.

[L.Kizzle]

:lol i dont think you know the definition of opinion.
talented singers.
Michael Jackson, Freddie Mercury, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Drake.

someone looks out of place don't they

[LBJMVP]

talented singers.
Michael Jackson, Freddie Mercury, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, Drake.

someone looks out of place don't they


if someone tells me im a talented basketball player it doesnt mean im as good as michael jordan.

if i tell someone they are a talented singer im not sayin "hey you are as good as michael jackson"

i could tell someone they are talented at basketball even if they dont get a college scholarship...

you are stupid!!!!!!!!!! :hammerhead:

[L.Kizzle]

if someone tells me im a talented basketball player it doesnt mean im as good as michael jordan.

if i tell someone they are a talented singer im not sayin "hey you are as good as michael jackson"

i could tell someone they are talented at basketball even if they dont get a college scholarship...

you are stupid!!!!!!!!!! :hammerhead:
Wait, you think Drake is a talented singer, yet I'm stupid, lol.


And Drake is a professional so I'm comparing him with pros, don't give me this talented basketball players who can't get scholarships comparisons. You're not a pro player, so no one's is comparing you to MJ. You get compared to cats at the local YMCA's/parks.


Drake is a "talented" singer so I'm comparing him with other talented singers.

[LBJMVP]

Wait, you think Drake is a talented singer, yet I'm stupid, lol.


And Drake is a professional so I'm comparing him with pros, don't give me this talented basketball players who can't get scholarships comparisons. You're not a pro player, so no one's is comparing you to MJ. You get compared to cats at the local YMCA's/parks.


Drake is a "talented" singer so I'm comparing him with other talented singers.

:banghead:

[Premeditated]

Wait, you think Drake is a talented singer, yet I'm stupid, lol.


And Drake is a professional so I'm comparing him with pros, don't give me this talented basketball players who can't get scholarships comparisons. You're not a pro player, so no one's is comparing you to MJ. You get compared to cats at the local YMCA's/parks.


Drake is a "talented" singer so I'm comparing him with other talented singers.
Going by your logic JR Smith isn't a talented basketball player. Because he's not as good at Lebron. They're both in the NBA but since he's not as good as Lebron he's not a talented basketball player.

[Bless Mathews]

Don't f.u.c.k. with L Kizzle.

[L.Kizzle]

Going by your logic JR Smith isn't a talented basketball player. Because he's not as good at Lebron. They're both in the NBA but since he's not as good as Lebron he's not a talented basketball player.
JR is no where near as talented as Bron but he has talent. Drake isn't even a singer, he sings on his own songs like 50 Cent does. And now he's a talented singer. Name a singer Drake is better than, can you?

[kentatm]

:lol i dont think you know the definition of opinion.


actually, opinions can be wrong depending on how they are formed.

[Premeditated]

JR is no where near as talented as Bron but he has talent. Drake isn't even a singer, he sings on his own songs like 50 Cent does. And now he's a talented singer. Name a singer Drake is better than, can you?
Chris Brown
Britney Spears
Omarion
Justin Beiber

took me 3 seconds

[L.Kizzle]

what the fvck? because he primarily sings on his own rap songs he can't be singer?
When he make a complete 360 like Cee Lo Green holla at me, until than he's a rapper.

[Premeditated]

When he make a complete 360 like Cee Lo Green holla at me, until than he's a rapper.
so I guess Lauryn Hill wasn't a rapper then right? You don't consider her a good rapper because she didn't do it all the time.

[LBJMVP]

When he make a complete 360 like Cee Lo Green holla at me, until than he's a rapper.


you have you opinion. i have mine.

thats that.

[SourGrapes]

Chris Brown
Britney Spears
Omarion
Justin Beiber

took me 3 seconds

by objective measures, none of these is worse than drake. they all have classical singing training, and can likely hit most notes. drake cannot do that

[Premeditated]

by objective measures, none of these is worse than drake. they all have classical singing training, and can likely hit most notes. drake cannot do that
you have your opinion, I have mines(even if you are being objective). I haven't seen or heard any range from any of these "singers" that is impressive. I find Drake's singing better. Period.

[Stuckey]

can't believe u guys arguing over how bad drake is, you cant out argue a troll because a troll has all day all night and no job

[Bless Mathews]

you have your opinion, I have mines(even if you are being objective). I haven't seen or heard any range from any of these "singers" that is impressive. I find Drake's singing better. Period.


You would take turns f.u.c.k.I.g. Drake. Period.

[tomtucker]

just heard "take care" , absolute pure shit.......him and kanye are pop singers.....stop pretending to be rappers

[L.Kizzle]

Chris Brown
Britney Spears
Omarion
Justin Beiber

took me 3 seconds
I don't even like Chris Brown but Drake can't see him on the vocals, lol. Omarion.

[PowerGlove]

So Drake sells 660k, but someone how Wayne sold a million??????:roll:

Drake had a better album, way more hype and diverse singles. Yet n*ggas expect me to believe that Wayne sold a million first week.

SMH.

Anyways dudes needs to stop being ridiculous, this is just crazy the amount of hate in this thread. If you dont like his music then say so, but dont go around spewing bullshit.

[PowerGlove]

Rappers better than Drake off the top of my head (no order)

2Pac
Big L
Big Pun
Nas
Biggie Smalls
KRS-ONE
Mos Def
Immortal Technique
Rakim
GZA the Genius
Ice Cube
Ice-T
Eminem
AZ
Pharoahe Monch
Raekwon
ODB
Method Man
RZA
Inspectah Deck
TECH-N9NE
Brother Ali
Kool G Rap
Canibus
Common
Lupe Fiasco
Run
DMC
Chuck D
Lord Finesse
Ghostface Killah
Killah Priest
Masta Killa
U-God
Shyheim
Big Daddy Kane
Jay-Z
Scarface
Murs
Kurupt
Snoop Dogg
MC Ren
Eazy-E
Dr. Dre
Talib Kweli
Vinnie Paz (Jedi Mind Tricks)
R.A. the Rugged Man
Reks
Black Thought
Eyedea
Slug
....and many more
:sleeping

Only the bolded has had an solo album at or above the quality of Take Care. Dre's non rapping ass doesnt count.

[donald_trump]

The latest twilight movie raked in $138 million over the weekend, one of the biggest openings ever. Pretty much the same thing here, with most likely the same demographic in both cases.

lol what demographic do you think was buying pac and biggie back in the day?

[DevilsAssassin]

Only the bolded has had an solo album at or above the quality of Take Care. Dre's non rapping ass doesnt count.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_W6NJ1k1ozC4/Sn7onKoKIFI/AAAAAAAACyI/EaCbIG8_ME4/s400/Cover.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZ_discography

[ace23]

Only the bolded has had an solo album at or above the quality of Take Care. Dre's non rapping ass doesnt count.
So Take Care is better than MMLP, Doe or Die, and Revolutionary 2?

GTFO. WTF? :facepalm

[ace23]

You're telling me lifestylez ov da poor and dangerous and capital punishment aren't better than any drake album?:facepalm Gtfo
Those, too.

[Premeditated]

http://i27.tinypic.com/1zgyu78.jpg
so it's like that breh?

huh?

I'm hurt. All because we don't share the same opinion on rappers?

Well consider me out of Ljungqvist Legion.
Melanie Laurent>That money grubbing whore Ida Ljungqvist

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9470/farvex.jpg

[andgar923]

does it hurt you all that Hip Hop is at it's strongest it's ever been in a while during a era you all hate?

let it burns fakkits!!!

Drake, Wale, Cole, Big Sean, Mac Miller, Cudi Wiz are all selling better than the new rappers that came out the past few years.

These are the new faces of hip hop, so you all best get use to it. On top of that we have the established artist already like Kanye, Lupe and Ross putting the music industry on notice.

On top of that, we have Princess RiRi on our side.

Hip Hop right now is the genre that running sh1t right now.

Current Hip Hop>>>>>late 90s-mid 00s hip hop.

Ignorance is bliss.

[Premeditated]

Ignorance is bliss.
how though?

Only rappers I enjoyed from the late 90s to early 00s that were new were Mos Def and Jay Z. Those era's were trash.

[DJmicah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEiKrD9D-EU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvTXpzazxCY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cq6EsWJRdz0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQwGyDvCUZc&feature=related
Really? hes not that bad

[Legend of Josh]

I was surprised by how wack most of fat joe albums were but every now and then he puts up a great verse.

Fat Joe doesn't get enough respect in terms of his raw rapping ability. I probably overrate the dude, but I think it's fair to say he's actually underrated by the masses.

He went from being a well respected bronx hero to *hinting* a mainstream switch (with Pun's 'help' (ghost-writing) Joe dropped Don Cartagena, where he comes with his best material (especially lyrically/verbally) to date).

Yes, then eventually taking things full-blown commerical at the turn of the century. I guess you could make the argument his quality of music took a hit, but I wouldn't exactly say he's 'wack' or his spitting ability is rubbish. Not at all.

[RRR3]

so it's like that breh?

huh?

I'm hurt. All because we don't share the same opinion on rappers?

Well consider me out of Ljungqvist Legion.
Melanie Laurent>That money grubbing whore Ida Ljungqvist

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/9470/farvex.jpg
Man, you were clearly trolling when you made this thread and trying to get a rise out of people who like older rap music. Opinions are one thing, but it's ludicrous to think Drake is better than 2Pac, etc.

[RRR3]

Only the bolded has had an solo album at or above the quality of Take Care. Dre's non rapping ass doesnt count.
So you're telling me Drake's album is better than...
Lifestylez ov da poor and dangerous?
The Big Picture?
Captial Punishment?
Long Live the Kane?
KRS-ONE (album)?
Eminem's first four albums?
Tical?
Doe or Die?


What are you smoking? :facepalm

[Premeditated]

Man, you were clearly trolling when you made this thread and trying to get a rise out of people who like older rap music. Opinions are one thing, but it's ludicrous to think Drake is better than 2Pac, etc.
I wasn't trying to get a rise out of anybody. In my heart to heart, I'll rather listen to Drake than 2Pac, it has nothing to do with eras or anything. I'll take Cube, Mos, Nas, Jay and Tribe Called Quest over most cats from this era. But as far as overall, I think this era is better than any other rap era beside the Golden Era. You can tell alot of these new artist aren't just doing it for monetary reasons or for a quick come up. I think they genuinely love this hip hop sh1t. They enjoy themselves in the studio and try to find ways to better themselves.

[PowerGlove]

So you're telling me Drake's album is better than...
Lifestylez ov da poor and dangerous?
The Big Picture?
Captial Punishment?
Long Live the Kane?
KRS-ONE (album)?
Eminem's first four albums?
Tical?
Doe or Die?


What are you smoking? :facepalm

And you are telling me that Ice-t,U-god,cappadonna,your momma, is a better rapper?????:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

It's called trolling. That's exactly what you were doing and that's exactly what I'm doing.

[ROCSteady]

And you are telling me that Ice-t,U-god,cappadonna,your momma, is a better rapper?????:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

You did leave AZ out of your bolded options and he's a superior rapper in every way except maybe making songs bout saving strippers. I don't even mind Drake, he clearly is talented in his niche and is commercially successful.

But don't ever, ev eva eva ever sleep on AZ. One of the most proficient flows ever IMO

[PowerGlove]

You did leave AZ out of your bolded options and he's a superior rapper in every way except maybe making songs bout saving strippers. I don't even mind Drake, he clearly is talented in his niche and is commercially successful.

But don't ever, ev eva eva ever sleep on AZ. One of the most proficient flows ever IMO
I'm not sleeping on anyone.

I'm tired of these b*tchmade arguments every week. Drake is trash. Cole is trash. ______ is trash and they cant compare to the golden age. People have overrated some of these wack ass rappers and album to a whole level. Now all of sudden Big L is goat. Reasonable doubt is a top 10 album ever,etc.....

[JohnnyWall]

How does it make me feel?

That the masses are stupid and without good taste. But that's not a new revelation.

[Legend of Josh]

And you are telling me that Ice-t,U-god,cappadonna,your momma, is a better rapper?????:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

It's called trolling. That's exactly what you were doing and that's exactly what I'm doing.

Cappadonna has been known to spit fire here and there; why would you seriously throw him in the mix and claim Drake > dude? You've been known to bring some pretty weak points/opinions in these types of discussions, so while your post doesn't surprise me, it sure as hell makes me SMH.

[Premeditated]

Lil B is the only dude that's keeping this generation alive. Name one unsigned rapper that's as big as he is now? He's bigger than some rappers on major labels.
http://forums.projectcovo.com/images/smilies/laff.gif

:roll: :roll:

[NBA4EVER]

http://cdn.rtny.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/daycare.jpg

[NoName22]

Only the bolded has had an solo album at or above the quality of Take Care. Dre's non rapping ass doesnt count.

Really breh ?

Take Care is not even that good.

[Premeditated]

http://cdn.rtny.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/daycare.jpg
reported

[verylegit]

kanye has made some great music, but maybe rap would have been better without his existence.
yeah, and world would be better without you. kanye ain't 'rare' enough for you is it buddy? ain't hipster enough? i honestly don't take your opinion in rap seriously when you advocate white slim thug rapper(idk his name but his glasses are ugly as fck) and other rappers that flock cash around while looking like complete tools. at least ye is creative and has had more success than your underground rappers will ever have combined. yeah you know a lot of rappers, so what, knowledge<taste. gtfo with that sh!t dude, youre coming in here with some cheap mall clothes criticizing burberry clothing. why the fck are you downplaying a fine, tailored coat made out of fine wool high in super 100s when you're wearing that cheap ass target coat that looks completely un-proportionate to your figure and the cheap fabric is measured in inches rather than microns?

[Premeditated]

Premed doesn't fukkk wit the Based God? :eek:

I'm disappointed in you, bruh. SMH
I find him highly entertaining. As a character. I'm all for his movement. Hell, I work in Berkeley, I know. But I don't think he's even close to being the face of the new rappers. I listen to him for sh1ts and giggles.

[Legend of Josh]

yeah, and world would be better without you. kanye ain't 'rare' enough for you is it buddy? ain't hipster enough? i honestly don't take your opinion in rap seriously when you advocate white slim thug rapper(idk his name but his glasses are ugly as fck) and other rappers that flock cash around while looking like complete tools. at least ye is creative and has had more success than your underground rappers will ever have combined. yeah you know a lot of rappers, so what, knowledge<taste. gtfo with that sh!t dude, youre coming in here with some cheap mall clothes criticizing burberry clothing. why the fck are you downplaying a fine, tailored coat made out of fine wool high in super 100s when you're wearing that cheap ass target coat that looks completely un-proportionate to your figure and the cheap fabric is measured in inches rather than microns?

LOL - why do you always get so damn offended when someone expresses their disapproval of Kanye? You come off sounding more butthurt than an atheist being told God loves you. The further you read into your post, the more it becomes obvious your cranium is about to explode.

You say knowledge doesn't equate to shit, and your tastes are something of greater value. Seriously dude? Your tastes? LOL time. Musically, Kanye has been a master of his craft which is production. As a rapper, Kanye is nothing special. You say different. Yeah well, LOJ > you in these discussions, so your opinion is frankly trash.

[PowerGlove]

Cappadonna has been known to spit fire here and there; why would you seriously throw him in the mix and claim Drake > dude? You've been known to bring some pretty weak points/opinions in these types of discussions, so while your post doesn't surprise me, it sure as hell makes me SMH.
Here and there???? Is that how we judge people now? I thought it was based on consistency, flow, creativity, you know, stuff like that.

Memphis bleek bodied a few tracks too. He's>>>>>>>Drake as well.

I dont bring weak points to anything, you are just an idiot. They always go over your head.

I never understood people like you. It should be about the Music in its entirety, everyone wants to focus on technical skills as if that's all there is to rap.

[ballup]

http://cdn.rtny.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/daycare.jpg
:roll: repped

[Rasheed1]

:applause: :applause: :applause:
Speaking of the devil psych, no it's the God, get the shit right
Mega trife, and you're I killed you in a past life
On the mic while you was kicking that fast shit
You reneged tried again, and got blasted
Half mastered ass style mad ruff task
When I struck I had on Timbs and a black mask
Remember that shit? I know you don't remember jack
That night yo I was hitting like a spiked bat
and then you thought I was bugged out, and crazy
strapped for nonsense, after me became lazy
yo, nobody budge while I shot slugs
Never shot thugs, I'm running with thugs that flood mugs
So grab your eight plus one, start flipping and tripping
****** is jetting I'm licking off son


WU - TANG
WU - TANG
WU - TANG
WU - TANGGGGGGGGG!!!!


http://www.hiphopgalaxy.com/IMG/wu-tang-logo.jpg

[Bigsmoke]

Drake is the truth.

congrates to the lil homie.

[Bigsmoke]

****** who think Drake aint shit never heard Comeback Season

[Legend of Josh]

Here and there???? Is that how we judge people now? I thought it was based on consistency, flow, creativity, you know, stuff like that.

Memphis bleek bodied a few tracks too. He's>>>>>>>Drake as well.

I dont bring weak points to anything, you are just an idiot. They always go over your head.

I never understood people like you. It should be about the Music in its entirety, everyone wants to focus on technical skills as if that's all there is to rap.

LOL, Powergrlove. Dude, let's be clear here. First of all, Drake isn't even what you would call a 'rapper' - he's a singer. Secondly, he ain't 'murdered' a verse (none that I've heard anyway). Perhaps you meant to say artist, and yes I'm sure that's what you were getting at.

In this case, we're not talking apples to apples. If you want to say Drake is a good singer, then OK, that's a more valid point. Even still, I think the dude sounds like trash through-and-through.

Let us look at your points though. Explain how Drake is creative? Dude walked into a booth and starting yapping. Flow, see creative. Consistency, OK now you make a point. Drake is consistent. Consistently trash. They say one man's trash is another man's treasure, but in this case, one man's trash is another tool's treasure.

:lol

[verylegit]

LOL - why do you always get so damn offended when someone expresses their disapproval of Kanye? You come off sounding more butthurt than an atheist being told God loves you. The further you read into your post, the more it becomes obvious your cranium is about to explode.

You say knowledge doesn't equate to shit, and your tastes are something of greater value. Seriously dude? Your tastes? LOL time. Musically, Kanye has been a master of his craft which is production. As a rapper, Kanye is nothing special. You say different. Yeah well, LOJ > you in these discussions, so your opinion is frankly trash.
never claimed kanye was better than actual rap jocks(nas, em, etc). but his production carries his actual rapping talent(which itself isn't all that bad, not legendary but again, tastefully crafted for his beats)
and i am a firm believer in God.
want to pay for my visit to psychiatrist? if not, stfu then.

my taste in rap>>>al thortons. so far ive seen him advocate complete trash. i'm not claiming kanye is goat, or anywhere near that because he is nowehere near being the best rapper but sure as hell better than lil b or that white slim thug. wayyyy better. up your lithium dose if you believe lil b or white slim thug>>>kanye.

[ROCSteady]

I'm not sleeping on anyone.

I'm tired of these b*tchmade arguments every week. Drake is trash. Cole is trash. ______ is trash and they cant compare to the golden age. People have overrated some of these wack ass rappers and album to a whole level. Now all of sudden Big L is goat. Reasonable doubt is a top 10 album ever,etc.....

Man PHX I feel what you're saying cuz you'd have to just WANT to turn cheek to some of the more traditional new talent such as J Cole, Big KRIT, Freddie Gibbs, Drake, etc etc. They do their thing and it has appeal and a specific purpose to diff factions but ppl are not going to forget the type of sound and style they grew familiar with.

Your bolded list prolly just ruffled some feathers bcuz it makes some great artists appear overlooked when albums were obviously done with much more cohesion than this more manufactured style of putting a bunch of songs together with featured 'hot' artists whose sounds don't have much chemistry. They end up not really accomplish as much of a statement as an album that is strung together for a more singular purpose. I mean you gunna tell me that The Fix by Scarface doesn't deserve to be thought of as one of the greats?

Drake eludes emotion but not in the same raw way that earlier dudes like the aforementioned Scarface, dudes like AZ, Kool G Rap, Raekwon, Jadakiss, etc did. For a lot of people like myself, my love for rap/hip hop began as an outlet for an aggressive and more carnal form of artistic expression. Not to say ppl try to act hard when they aren'y but I guess some real intense tracks get you zoned the same way dudes dig Heavy Metal. Jus a raw form of expression.

Drake's emotions obviously don't pander to those rap fans who are familiar with a more gritty execution. Sure he's clever and has some skill. He's very good at making a 'song'. 'Songs' can be very amateur and pop-sounding so it appeals to not that dark side of the psyche where a hardened individual like Styles P might be able to get at.

I love women and being charming with them but I'll be honest, the dude needs to chill on pandering to this crowd of generic b!tches who think they're special . :lol He's done his thing and made money from it, so show the lifelong fans where your art can go NOW.

P.S. Reasonable Doubt is one of the greatest hip hop/rap albums ever to me. That shit had a collective purpose and it's scope was pretty wide for a dude's first album. Not all Hypnotiq fun and matching belts an shit to make shallow bitches moist

[ROCSteady]

****** who think Drake aint shit never heard Comeback Season

This I will agree with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e88CdzKSa3Q&feature=related

This shit is fire and anybody that disagrees just actively make an effort to hate the guy

[Bless Mathews]

Drake is a bottom.

[Premeditated]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

BRUH YOU LOVE JAY COLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

BRUH YOU LOVE FUTURE, WAKKA FLOP, V-NASTY!!!!!!!

[SourGrapes]

you have your opinion, I have mines(even if you are being objective). I haven't seen or heard any range from any of these "singers" that is impressive. I find Drake's singing better. Period.

you might like him more, but to say he is a better singer is wrong. all those singers listed can hit a full range of notes, on command. drake cannot do that.

liking someone is different from that someone being objectively better.

[Legend of Josh]

I can't agree with the arguments that rank Reasonable Doubt so high. Blueprint is by far a superior album, and even at that, more along the lines of a 4.5 mic-ish level. While Jay is highly consistent, and has dropped some real bangers over his career, he has yet to deliver what I would claim a legit 'classic' album entirely.

To be fair, many use the term classic a bit loosely. When we're talking a masterpiece (which is a stronger term), it seems that term can be overused too. I reserve those labels for the mega elite albums such as Illmatic, Liquid Swords, Ready to Die, It Takes A Nation, Paid In Full (very select few).

I would even argue an album such as Moment of Truth > Reasonable Doubt. A lot of really does boil down to a personal opinion, but there are quite a few heads that would ? why RD is so high on some lists, whereas an argument such as why Illmatic is so high, would be rap blasphemy.

[ROCSteady]

Fat Joe doesn't get enough respect in terms of his raw rapping ability. I probably overrate the dude, but I think it's fair to say he's actually underrated by the masses.

He went from being a well respected bronx hero to *hinting* a mainstream switch (with Pun's 'help' (ghost-writing) Joe dropped Don Cartagena, where he comes with his best material (especially lyrically/verbally) to date).

Yes, then eventually taking things full-blown commerical at the turn of the century. I guess you could make the argument his quality of music took a hit, but I wouldn't exactly say he's 'wack' or his spitting ability is rubbish. Not at all.

I would never consider myself a Fat Joe fan but this is nasty:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yirh7_oSojo

Headin for Paradise, Carlos Brigante/ Jazz in the background, Harry Belafonte :pimp:

[Lamar Doom]

660,000? Wow! I guess little girls are still buying music. Drake is the Spice Girls, backstreet boys, Hanson, etc. He's gonna make a lot of money off of people who need their music chosen for them. All you kids born in the 90s that are just getting into rap, I'm sure hes right up Your alley. He might have a good song here or there but he's shit. You'll understand when you're older and smarter.

[Premeditated]

660,000? Wow! I guess little girls are still buying music. Drake is the Spice Girls, backstreet boys, Hanson, etc. He's gonna make a lot of money off of people who need their music chosen for them. All you kids born in the 90s that are just getting into rap, I'm sure hes right up Your alley. He might have a good song here or there but he's shit. You'll understand when you're older and smarter.
shut the fukk up fakkit.

You gone hype me up and make me catch a body like that.

[Lamar Doom]

shut the fukk up fakkit.

You gone hype me up and make me catch a body like that.

Oh cool, people are still trolling! Wake up, log onto ish, pretend to be something/somebody I'm not to try to get a rise out of people online, repeat. Awesome way to spend your life dude.

[EMERE]

^^^^ What Lamar said, Drake has somehow found what rapping ability to use in today's music, and that is poppy beats with lots of singing(well you can't really call it singing because he is really not) and corny punchlines, a rapper who uses any category's that I name cannot really qualify as a technical rapper, what I mean by that is a rapper who is able to create certain flow patterns and is able to construct well-structured rhymes over a beat that suits their rapping style, all I see in this guy Drake is that he doesn't really care about all that stuff, as evident to all the poppy songs that he has, he might sound good on them, but as time progresses you are going to get tired of this guy and maybe ask him to change his rapping ability or flow, but you know whats going to happen? He is not going to be able to do it, why? because he is by no means a "Versatile" rapper, all the songs that I hear from him are all rather the same, the only reason I think people like him nowadays is because today's music and the listeners like hearing watered-down music.

[Premeditated]

Oh cool, people are still trolling! Wake up, log onto ish, pretend to be something/somebody I'm not to try to get a rise out of people online, repeat. Awesome way to spend your life dude.
shut the fukk up fakkit

tuck my napkin in my pocket cause I'm mobbin just like that

[Lamar Doom]

shut the fukk up fakkit

tuck my napkin in my pocket cause I'm mobbin just like that

Awesome man, thanks. Great job so far today.

[Premeditated]

Awesome man, thanks. Great job so far today.
shut the fukk up fakkit

you know do and damn well you don't want know problem like that

[EMERE]

Man did I really want to argue a well argued conversation, but it seems ISH has too many trolls.

[rhythmic]

does it hurt you all that Hip Hop is at it's strongest it's ever been in a while during a era you all hate?

let it burns fakkits!!!

Drake, Wale, Cole, Big Sean, Mac Miller, Cudi Wiz are all selling better than the new rappers that came out the past few years.

These are the new faces of hip hop, so you all best get use to it. On top of that we have the established artist already like Kanye, Lupe and Ross putting the music industry on notice.

On top of that, we have Princess RiRi on our side.

Hip Hop right now is the genre that running sh1t right now.

Current Hip Hop>>>>>late 90s-mid 00s hip hop.

You do realize that 80% of the people buying Drake's albums aren't really hip-hop heads, right?

Hip-hop went mainstream, you referencing sale volumes as some sort of validation is a falsified analogy. Your facts/data lacks veracity, due its irrelevancy.

[Premeditated]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[airchibundo507]

Man PHX I feel what you're saying cuz you'd have to just WANT to turn cheek to some of the more traditional new talent such as J Cole, Big KRIT, Freddie Gibbs, Drake, etc etc. They do their thing and it has appeal and a specific purpose to diff factions but ppl are not going to forget the type of sound and style they grew familiar with.

Your bolded list prolly just ruffled some feathers bcuz it makes some great artists appear overlooked when albums were obviously done with much more cohesion than this more manufactured style of putting a bunch of songs together with featured 'hot' artists whose sounds don't have much chemistry. They end up not really accomplish as much of a statement as an album that is strung together for a more singular purpose. I mean you gunna tell me that The Fix by Scarface doesn't deserve to be thought of as one of the greats?

Drake eludes emotion but not in the same raw way that earlier dudes like the aforementioned Scarface, dudes like AZ, Kool G Rap, Raekwon, Jadakiss, etc did. For a lot of people like myself, my love for rap/hip hop began as an outlet for an aggressive and more carnal form of artistic expression. Not to say ppl try to act hard when they aren'y but I guess some real intense tracks get you zoned the same way dudes dig Heavy Metal. Jus a raw form of expression.

Drake's emotions obviously don't pander to those rap fans who are familiar with a more gritty execution. Sure he's clever and has some skill. He's very good at making a 'song'. 'Songs' can be very amateur and pop-sounding so it appeals to not that dark side of the psyche where a hardened individual like Styles P might be able to get at.

I love women and being charming with them but I'll be honest, the dude needs to chill on pandering to this crowd of generic b!tches who think they're special . :lol He's done his thing and made money from it, so show the lifelong fans where your art can go NOW.

P.S. Reasonable Doubt is one of the greatest hip hop/rap albums ever to me. That shit had a collective purpose and it's scope was pretty wide for a dude's first album. Not all Hypnotiq fun and matching belts an shit to make shallow bitches moist

This is probably the best post in this thread. Mainstream rap is relatable to those who aren't familiar with crime, violence, drug trafficking, etc in the ghetto. Rap doesn't have to be strictly about that---that association is almost outdated. Rap music per se has the capacity to be much more, to encompass more experiences and purposes. Drake might channel his emotions too much and his singing is downright annoying at times, but his flow is nice and he's creative compared with other popular rappers today.

[ROCSteady]

Thanks for a lil taste of notoriety, I was beginning to think I typed that in vein jus so lames can continue to throw familiar stone at one another :oldlol:

[donald_trump]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[airchibundo507]

Thanks for a lil taste of notoriety, I was beginning to think I typed that in vein jus so lames can continue to throw familiar stone at one another :oldlol:

it's deep, bro. well thought out and incorporates valuable insight from both sides. rep.

[IamSofaKing]

To all you complaining about current hip hop.. Get used to it, Nas and Jay couldnt even recreate the shit they wrote back in the 90's. It was the time they grew up in that distinguished "old school" hip hop.

[EMERE]

This is probably the best post in this thread. Mainstream rap is relatable to those who aren't familiar with crime, violence, drug trafficking, etc in the ghetto. Rap doesn't have to be strictly about that---that association is almost outdated. Rap music per se has the capacity to be much more, to encompass more experiences and purposes. Drake might channel his emotions too much and his singing is downright annoying at times, but his flow is nice and he's creative compared with other popular rappers today.Please show me a song where Drake shows his creativity, Crime and gangs are not what rap is all about, you are mistaken, Rap is a sense of creativity with wit and having satire moments, Please show me a song where Drake doesn't over-generalize "Haters hate me because i''m rich as ***", I'll wait for you..... He probably does have some tho, but the whole image that he portrays is how I viewed him, if they wouldn't concider him strictly hio-pop then i wouldn't have a problem, but he is RNB for me.

[EMERE]

and you are able to determine this how?

I think you are mistaking Drake fans for Eminem fans.That's because Em makes music that can be listened in every kind of genre-fans, Drake only appeals to Rnb listeners, Em's prime>>>> anyone in the history, Even right know that he style is not as sharp as before he has songs that far outplay Drakes Discography.

[donald_trump]

Please show me a song where Drake shows his creativity, Crime and gangs are not what rap is all about, you are mistaken, Rap is a sense of creativity with wit and having satire moments, Please show me a song where Drake doesn't over-generalize "Haters hate me because i''m rich as ***", I'll wait for you..... He probably does have some tho, but the whole image that he portrays is how I viewed him, if they wouldn't concider him strictly hio-pop then i wouldn't have a problem, but he is RNB for me.

:oldlol:

drake is the only one outside of maybe j cole who isn't your generic type rapper. mixes his stuff up and isn't putting out the same type shit.

[rhythmic]

same thing goes for 2pac, biggie and jay-z.

Of course, there will always be cross-sectional sales. I do not acknowledge hip-hop/rap anymore, due to the lack of creativity. Majority of the artists have ghost writers and are sell-outs. They'll produce albums that are more in line with mainstream music, rather then sticking to the essence of lyricism.

You have to be really young, to not see this shift from the 90's to now.
I mean Drake selling this much in a week? The guy wouldn't even be considered an underground rapper back in the day; he has little to no skill when it comes to rhyming. What music are you listening to?

I'm getting sick of the arrogance young people have these days; they don't know a damn thing about music in the 90's yet they want to act like it's similar because their icon is from their own generation.

I got probably 12,000 hip-hop/rap related songs on my computer; I'd say maybe 50-60 songs are from the past five years. Hip-hop is not existent, please stop calling these guys "rappers". It's a disgrace.

[EMERE]

:oldlol:

drake is the only one outside of maybe j cole who isn't your generic type rapper. mixes his stuff up and isn't putting out the same type shit.Makes up shit? Did some of his "amazing stuff" go over my head or something? Please define generic, what I truly call "generic" in today's is what truly Drake is, the production is the only thing that he has going, other then that he is very average.....

[airchibundo507]

Please show me a song where Drake shows his creativity, Crime and gangs are not what rap is all about, you are mistaken, Rap is a sense of creativity with wit and having satire moments, Please show me a song where Drake doesn't over-generalize "Haters hate me because i''m rich as ***", I'll wait for you..... He probably does have some tho, but the whole image that he portrays is how I viewed him, if they wouldn't concider him strictly hio-pop then i wouldn't have a problem, but he is RNB for me.

Rap is definitely an outlet for creativity, but it's more than just wit and satire. I'll give you one of his songs that's definitely distinguishable from the pretentious bullsh*t other guys put out.

Look What You've Done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxPxa--Sn0

It's stripped. No beat during the verses so that the stories take precedence. He contextualizes each verse within a time and place in his past. Each is a message to a different person.

[donald_trump]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[Rondo]

I liked 'Headlines'. Other than that, the album was pretty bland...

[airchibundo507]

I liked 'Headlines'. Other than that, the album was pretty bland...

what about:
Underground Kings
Lord Knows

[rhythmic]

young people aren't the arrogant ones. its old douches like yourself who come in here and say that the artists of today have no talent. young people just go on listening to what they listen to. and the op only said what he said to get a rise out of people. though he's not completely wrong. hip hop has never dominated charts like this before.
who's to say which hip hop is better? some people like listening to things they can relate to. the 90's was very much more gangster oriented stuff.

i personally like both.

Yeah, thanks for proving my point.

[Rondo]

what about:
Underground Kings
Lord Knows

Underground Kings is okay. Lord Knows has the sickest beat on the album, but I felt like it was under-delivered.

[EMERE]

Rap is definitely an outlet for creativity, but it's more than just wit and satire. I'll give you one of his songs that's definitely distinguishable from the pretentious bullsh*t other guys put out.

Look What You've Done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrxPxa--Sn0

It's stripped. No beat during the verses so that the stories take precedence. He contextualizes each verse within a time and place in his past. Each is a message to a different person.How do you view Drake as an artist, Do you think he is a rare talent that we have never seen? Because what you posted led me to believe that you really think that he is, I'm not saying that he is totally garbage dude, anyone who is above Lil B and all those Lil names is a plus to me, but to me he is just average, what about you?

[airchibundo507]

Underground Kings is okay. Lord Knows has the sickest beat on the album, but I felt like it was under-delivered.

yeah, Ross didn't go hard enough

"fell in love with the pen, started f*cking the ink" :facepalm

[Rondo]

yeah, Ross didn't go hard enough

"fell in love with the pen, started f*cking the ink" :facepalm

Yeah, I mean thats just straight up gay lol.

[airchibundo507]

How do you view Drake as an artist, Do you think he is a rare talent that we have never seen? Because what you posted led me to believe that you really think that he is, I'm not saying that he is totally garbage dude, anyone who is above Lil B and all those Lil names is a plus to me, but to me he is just average, what about you?

I'm not familiar with 90s rap, and Drake sh*ts on most rap artists out there today. I'm trying to become acquainted with the older guys, though. It's just a long process.

[EMERE]

young people aren't the arrogant ones. its old douches like yourself who come in here and say that the artists of today have no talent. young people just go on listening to what they listen to. and the op only said what he said to get a rise out of people. though he's not completely wrong. hip hop has never dominated charts like this before.
who's to say which hip hop is better? some people like listening to things they can relate to. the 90's was very much more gangster oriented stuff.

i personally like both.Its nice to argue lol I haven't done this in a while, or on this board, but by you saying that Hip-pop has never witnessed such domination in the charts, does that make the music more appealing to people who may not like it or should we just transform our theory in just sales alone? Its not really a shame to call artist's today average, because Hop-pop has had many artist who surpass what anyone is doing today or artistically musically. But whatever pleases you is fine, but I find today's rap very watered-down.

[Rondo]

I'm not familiar with 90s rap, and Drake sh*ts on most rap artists out there today. I'm trying to become acquainted with the older guys, though. It's just a long process.

Personally, I'd like to be known for going hard on one song than be Drake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fruosy0SEU8

Shit goes so hard.

[Premeditated]

That's because Em makes music that can be listened in every kind of genre-fans, Drake only appeals to Rnb listeners, Em's prime>>>> anyone in the history, Even right know that he style is not as sharp as before he has songs that far outplay Drakes Discography.
Em's music is only relatable to white boys. Drake makes music for regular dudes. What goes on in regular guys raps, pucci, club, party, parents situation etc. That's what he raps about. Eminem raps about offing his ex and cussing out his moms and all type of weird whiteboy stuff. I can vouch that I've heard more blacks listen to Drake than Feminem. And I also hear alot of Drake's music amongst whites. Filipino's too.

[Premeditated]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[EMERE]

I'm not familiar with 90s rap, and Drake sh*ts on most rap artists out there today. I'm trying to become acquainted with the older guys, though. It's just a long process.Yes he does shit on most rap artist today, but that's not saying that much because the skill right know is not amazing in my opinion, I guess my bar in terms of rappers is held really high tho, I care about the lyrics first then comes the beat.

[EMERE]

Em's music is only relatable to white boys. Drake makes music for regular dudes. What goes on in regular guys raps, pucci, club, party, parents situation etc. That's what he raps about. Eminem raps about offing his ex and cussing out his moms and all type of weird whiteboy stuff. I can vouch that I've heard more blacks listen to Drake than Feminem. And I also hear alot of Drake's music amongst whites. Filipino's too.Well if you like that style then nice for you:cheers:

[airchibundo507]

Personally, I'd like to be known for going hard on one song than be Drake.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fruosy0SEU8

Shit goes so hard.

good sh*t man

[airchibundo507]

Yes he does shit on most rap artist today, but that's not saying that much because the skill right know is not amazing in my opinion, I guess my bar in terms of rappers is held really high tho, I care about the lyrics first then comes the beat.

You're right, dawg. It's a weak era, so shining in it isn't much of an accomplishment. His production is top-notch, though. I'm sure my perception of his talent will decline as I become more accustomed to the older emcees.

[niko]

I'm no elitist (i love lil wayne, i think that elimnates me) but Drake's new cd is eh...and this is coming from someone who listens to him. Too much of it is mellow, and its honestly just very dull.

[Legend of Josh]

660,000? Wow! I guess little girls are still buying music. Drake is the Spice Girls, backstreet boys, Hanson, etc. He's gonna make a lot of money off of people who need their music chosen for them. All you kids born in the 90s that are just getting into rap, I'm sure hes right up Your alley. He might have a good song here or there but he's shit. You'll understand when you're older and smarter.

... couldn't have said it better myself.

[KnowledgeWithin]

Really don't know how the op thought this would make dewds catch feelings. Just another artists that I personally don't listen to. Drake was held high in my eyes he has skill peep comeback season pre-so far gone.

What irks me is bandwagon dewds who claim Drake and hadn't heard a verse from the man til what 09-10. Whatever I'm sure the album appeals to nigs at my college cuz they don't listen to much else and teeny bopper white girls and some at my college as well. Drake's production is usually amazing and it's kind of a waste cuz he'll slap a nice hook on it and not some much of anything after that.


And I'm not one of those false behind closed doors fans if I don't like something I won't give it a try so shxt won't even get a download, and I still cop hard copy albums to this day. Just better music out there just got to look for it unless you enjoy pop all the time, he raps about poppin rozy which I can't afford, effing 20 girls in a week, which I would brag about too but I don't sadly and just dawging hoxs it's cool though he's just not appealing.

[Gundress]

does it hurt you all that Hip Hop is at it's strongest it's ever been in a while during a era you all hate?

let it burns fakkits!!!

Drake, Wale, Cole, Big Sean, Mac Miller, Cudi Wiz are all selling better than the new rappers that came out the past few years.

These are the new faces of hip hop, so you all best get use to it. On top of that we have the established artist already like Kanye, Lupe and Ross putting the music industry on notice.

On top of that, we have Princess RiRi on our side.

Hip Hop right now is the genre that running sh1t right now.

Current Hip Hop>>>>>late 90s-mid 00s hip hop.

:facepalm :facepalm

F*CK YOUR THREAD ASS N!GGA MFER!

[G-Funk]

he is though.

Put them in a freestyle battle and Pac is getting eating alive.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3skyye7TkYk ("http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3skyye7TkYk"

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uKSeyYFGRo


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[lilojmayo]

if anyone says drake isnt talented then they are just jealous as shit.

there is a reason someones album is the 3rd biggest sale of the year, and it isnt because he is garbage.

the album is great.

Drake is so talented at what he does. Again, i'll keep saying it he is the most versatile hip/hop R &B artist since Eminem. He really can do it all and he has shown that display of talent from Marvins's Room compared to his Up All Night. Never can I recall an artist with that much versatility, since again Eminem.

With that being said, the reason that "You" rap purest can't stand him is because he doesn't appeal to the hardcore rap fan. Drake is smart, he knows the way to make money is to appeal to the younger teenage girl between (12-14) years. If you win that demographic, your going to get a big pay day in main stream music.

and his 660k albums sold its first week shows it.

[PowerGlove]

but usually trolling is obvious. that was just another common post for you between *********ing to the new wale and vx song.
:sleeping

I've been on record saying that I only like one song from Wale's album......

[PowerGlove]

Man PHX I feel what you're saying cuz you'd have to just WANT to turn cheek to some of the more traditional new talent such as J Cole, Big KRIT, Freddie Gibbs, Drake, etc etc. They do their thing and it has appeal and a specific purpose to diff factions but ppl are not going to forget the type of sound and style they grew familiar with.

The thing is, I listen to the majority of albums that they have. Stakes is High is one of my favorite songs ever(9th wonder remix>>>). I think that Kweli's Eardrum is one of the most underrated albums since 2000. I'm tired of the complaining though, instead of trying to share some of the music that they feel superior, they rather bash the artists that are in the fold today. That's b*tchmade.


ur bolded list prolly just ruffled some feathers bcuz it makes some great artists appear overlooked when albums were obviously done with much more cohesion than this more manufactured style of putting a bunch of songs together with featured 'hot' artists whose sounds don't have much chemistry. They end up not really accomplish as much of a statement as an album that is strung together for a more singular purpose. I mean you gunna tell me that The Fix by Scarface doesn't deserve to be thought of as one of the greats?

I fully understand why my list ruffled feathers, that was my intention. He was trolling with his list so I countered.


Drake eludes emotion but not in the same raw way that earlier dudes like the aforementioned Scarface, dudes like AZ, Kool G Rap, Raekwon, Jadakiss, etc did. For a lot of people like myself, my love for rap/hip hop began as an outlet for an aggressive and more carnal form of artistic expression. Not to say ppl try to act hard when they aren'y but I guess some real intense tracks get you zoned the same way dudes dig Heavy Metal. Jus a raw form of expression.


Drake's emotions obviously don't pander to those rap fans who are familiar with a more gritty execution. Sure he's clever and has some skill. He's very good at making a 'song'. 'Songs' can be very amateur and pop-sounding so it appeals to not that dark side of the psyche where a hardened individual like Styles P might be able to get at.

I started out listening to the hard shit like you did but I cant take rappers seriously if they cant express a broad range of emotions. Flat rappers are just caricatures, I can only listen to you brag or be hard for so long before I just turn it off. I prefer a mix. Pac was really great at this.


I love women and being charming with them but I'll be honest, the dude needs to chill on pandering to this crowd of generic b!tches who think they're special . :lol He's done his thing and made money from it, so show the lifelong fans where your art can go NOW.

You gotta give him time to progress, Eminem is rapping about the same shit that he was dishing out in 99' still he's loved all over this site. I do agree though, but it wasnt as bad as "Fancy". That shit killed me.


P.S. Reasonable Doubt is one of the greatest hip hop/rap albums ever to me. That shit had a collective purpose and it's scope was pretty wide for a dude's first album. Not all Hypnotiq fun and matching belts an shit to make shallow bitches moist
Definitely a great album, but I dont think its the classic people are making it out to be. I dont even have it in my top 3 for 96. I prefer It was written,Stakes is High, All Eyez on Me over it. The Score was nice too.

[Legend of Josh]

1996 was a major critical year for rap music. You're exactly right; RD isn't amongst the best of the best that year, too many other real bangers in that 12 month span... wayyyyyy too many.

IMO, hip-hop/rap's second best year music/sound/culture wise. What year does LOJ believe was # 1? I'll keep it secret for now. The rap gods would be disappoint if I told ya'll.

PowerGlove, I can appreciate your tastes for your age, and you're not really all that doo doo in these discussions, but you still have plently of homework to do. Keep at it.

[oh the horror]

You have to also take into consideration that it was a different time for 'sales' in general.


You have the internet now as a massive force in putting your sounds out there, and promotion. YouTube, iTunes, electronic media.


Back in 96 and before, it wasnt exactly huge, or practically non-existent.


The problem with people now, is that they judge an artists success on record sales, and confuse that with actual worth as their musical content.


Any tom, d*ck, or harry can go out there now, and with enough financial backing, and a good PR team, they could also sell a good chunk of records. Just LOOK at some of these artists today. Its CLEARLY the most horrible era for "hip-hop/rap" music.


But this is all perspective. Drake to me, has talent, but really isnt THAT damn good. I believe his PR team does a great job at putting him out there, and making you believe he is more iconic than his content would suggest.

[blablabla]

katy perry and kesha also sell a lot of records

[PowerGlove]

1996 was a major critical year for rap music. You're exactly right; RD isn't amongst the best of the best that year, too many other real bangers in that 12 month span... wayyyyyy too many.

IMO, hip-hop/rap's second best year music/sound/culture wise. What year does LOJ believe was # 1? I'll keep it secret for now. The rap gods would be disappoint if I told ya'll.

PowerGlove, I can appreciate your tastes for your age, and you're not really all that doo doo in these discussions, but you still have plently of homework to do. Keep at it.
I do have to admit that 96 was a really top heavy year.

I just copped a physical copy of Stakes Is High. I need to get that shirt LD has though.

[L.Kizzle]

Hey can you post Drake's contemporaries in singing?

[Legend of Josh]

I do have to admit that 96 was a really top heavy year.

I just copped a physical copy of Stakes Is High. I need to get that shirt LD has though.

Yeah, those were the days and times back then man... bliss. Pure bliss.

[PowerGlove]

Yeah, those were the days and times back then man... bliss. Pure bliss.
PM or just post some albums/songs then.

Anyone else can do it too.

[Stuckey]

mute spittah > drake

that is all

[Legend of Josh]

PM or just post some albums/songs then.

Anyone else can do it too.

LOL... do your own homework. There's no cheat sheet here. Back in the day, before these here internets, we had to do our homework, so no free pass.

:oldlol:

[PowerGlove]

lol

i do like discovering hot shit on my own though. i get very hyped.

[Legend of Josh]

lol

i do like discovering hot shit though. i get very hyped.

I don't know what you have, or haven't listened to yet.

I'll throw one at you that not everyone will stand the fu*k up and say HELL YEAH! classic banger! ... but listen to Cypress Hill's Temples of Boom III... superbly produced album that is very street level and back then, was a real banger for the time it dropped (I think very late 1995 ish?)...

A personal favorite of mine... I might overrate, but overall hard to argue it's not a musical gem. In fact, I'm gonna dig that shit up now, put in my system...

*edit*

If you aren't listening on a high quality system or headphones, might not 'bump' the same, the audio was not mastered correctly... dont know why Muggs did it this way...

[Legend of Josh]

http://www.insidehoops.com/music-cypress-091703.shtml

Just did a google search and noticed ISH did an interview with b-real back in 03 LOL... nice.

[Simple Jack]

Ice T? DMc? Easy E? Ra the Rugged man? Doctor dre? better at rapping than Drake?

Yea....thats just hating over fame there.

Drake is a singer/rapper kinda hybrid...but hes sure as hell rapping better on Aston Martin Music than Easy E talking about crusing down the street in his 64 slapping hoes. Or Dre getting rhymes written for him and not even rapping them well.

Not sure that Ra the Rugged Man makes better music but he's certainly a more talented rapper. Uncommon Valor is greater than anything Drake can even begin to even dream of rapping.

Drake is slowly becoming the LeBron of rapping though; getting underrated because people love hating on whatever is popular.

Shoulda seen all the Cole stuff back on SOHH when he just had the come up and warm up. Every song posted people were going nuts over; claiming he never put out a bad song. Sure enough, fast forward a year and he's "trash" according to plenty of those same idiots.

[Big#50]

Came in here to talk about the new Uncharted game.

[D12"Magic"]

Came in here to talk about the new Uncharted game.
:roll:

[andgar923]

Drake is so talented at what he does. Again, i'll keep saying it he is the most versatile hip/hop R &B artist since Eminem. He really can do it all and he has shown that display of talent from Marvins's Room compared to his Up All Night. Never can I recall an artist with that much versatility, since again Eminem.

With that being said, the reason that "You" rap purest can't stand him is because he doesn't appeal to the hardcore rap fan. Drake is smart, he knows the way to make money is to appeal to the younger teenage girl between (12-14) years. If you win that demographic, your going to get a big pay day in main stream music.

and his 660k albums sold its first week shows it.

You obviously don't listen to rap do you?

[Meticode]

You obviously don't listen to rap do you?
Everyone can have different opinions can they not?

[andgar923]

Everyone can have different opinions can they not?

Not when they're wrong.

[Meticode]

Not when they're wrong.
That's your opinion. :confusedshrug:

[andgar923]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj6VcS7gouU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OF9uu5AUM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7boL1EkW7M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4alVGKuM0I&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFhczEiCvOo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDGPhO2i1Lw&feature=related