Ricky Rubioooo

[SunsCaptain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-hV_hNHB1Q&feature=relmfu

Is going to be a beast in the NBA. All the doubters prepare to swallow your words!

:cheers:

[DuMa]

cant wait for this scrub to be exposed.

[bluechox2]

hes best to come off the bench

[Fiasco]

more like scrubio, amirite

[Go Getter]

this thread is late but I agree that he will be a respectable rookie. Maybe even a good pro.

[chips93]

cant wait for this scrub to be exposed.

exposed as what? almost nobody thinks he'll b e great

[kumquat]

Rubio is going to be an epic fail. He sucked in spain, he'll suck worse in the NBA.

[Yung D-Will]

Rubio is going to be an epic fail. He sucked in spain, he'll suck worse in the NBA.
Yawn.

I love that he's under Rick Adelman who'll actually harness his potential and help develop his game in the nba. Really Rick is such a great coach and there's no better situation for Rubio.

I'm also hoping he succeeds because people are so obsessed with hoping this Kid fails it kind of reminds me of how everyone hopes Lebron fails every year

He's a 21 year old who's been working with shooting coaches all summer and has been improving his weaknesses, If he keeps that work ethic under Adelman there's nothing he can't accomplish.

[Rnbizzle]

I started out a bit of a Rubio doubter.. but the hate is getting ridiculous, I hope the kid succeeds and proves all you fools wrong :lol

[Clutch]

I started out a bit of a Rubio doubter.. but the hate is getting ridiculous, I hope the kid succeeds and proves all you fools wrong :lol
I also hope he will succeed in the NBA.

[HylianNightmare]

i don't think he will be a beast or a bust, i think he will be a solid overall PG

[B-Easy8]

I don't understand why people hate on players for no reason and want them to fail so badly. There are a few exceptions of course (LeBron) but what has this kid done to garner this much hate?

That full court pass to Derozan was awesome. I think he will be a solid rookie, he won't score much but 5-6 assists, around 1.5 steals a game and he will set up the run and gun Wolves well.

[R.I.P.]

I don't understand why people hate on players for no reason and want them to fail so badly. There are a few exceptions of course (LeBron) but what has this kid done to garner this much hate?

That full court pass to Derozan was awesome. I think he will be a solid rookie, he won't score much but 5-6 assists, around 1.5 steals a game and he will set up the run and gun Wolves well.

Agreed. At least he

[B-Easy8]

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]Agreed. At least he

[Shade8780]

In the 2010-11 season with Barcelona he averaged
5.9 PPG, 32.1 FG%, 4 APG, 3.3 RPG in 22.9 MPG.

Now I know he's been improving during the lockout but he definitely won't be a beast in the NBA. He'll probably just about crack into the starting lineup of the T'Wolves but will get limited minutes with Luke Ridnour.

[zass]

those passes were pretty awsome nonetheless.

[nathanjizzle]

hell be on the same level as brandon jennings if hes lucky.

[HurricaneKid]

I don't understand why people hate on players for no reason and want them to fail so badly. There are a few exceptions of course (LeBron).

Because there is no irrational hatred for LBJ?

[stephanieg]

I don't understand why people hate on players for no reason and want them to fail so badly.

For Rubio it's because like 3 or 4 years ago Bill Simmons started to hype this kid like crazy as the next Stockton and made it seem like any team that didn't draft him wasn't doing their homework. Then it turned out Rubio isn't really that good. APOCALYPSE!!

[Yung D-Will]

For Rubio it's because like 3 or 4 years ago Bill Simmons started to hype this kid like crazy as the next Stockton and made it seem like any team that didn't draft him wasn't doing their homework. Then it turned out Rubio isn't really that good. APOCALYPSE!!

It turned out that he his jumpshot became very inconsistent and he lost confidence. Doesn't mean he's not that good mean he's going through the growing pains, He's already been working with trainers on his weaknesses and the kid is only 21.

Any what are you saying.. EVERY ******* top pick ends up getting compared to greats I've heard Kyrie Irving bring called next Isiah Thomas, I head both Hayward and Jimmer being compared to Larry Bird, Lebron just compared some Kidd to freaking Jason Kidd. Because someone compared him to Stockton isn't a good enough reason to hate on him.

[RRR3]

It turned out that he his jumpshot became very inconsistent and he lost confidence. Doesn't mean he's not that good mean he's going through the growing pains, He's already been working with trainers on his weaknesses and the kid is only 21.

Any what are you saying.. EVERY ******* top pick ends up getting compared to greats I've heard Kyrie Irving bring called next Isiah Thomas, I head both Hayward and Jimmer being compared to Larry Bird, Lebron just compared some Kidd to freaking Jason Kidd. Because someone compared him to Stockton isn't a good enough reason to hate on him.
LeBron is a crafty one. He knew that someone with the same last name as Jason Kidd had at least one thing in common with him. :lol :rockon:

[AI3Anthony]

If you are a point guard in the NBA and you can't shoot somewhat consistently.. you are worthless.

[Yung D-Will]

If you are a point guard in the NBA and you can't shoot somewhat consistently.. you are worthless.

Right lmao. Do we really have to list how many pgs throughout Nba history had bad jumpshots when they came into the leauge?

And he's already been working on his jumpshot with trainers before he ever stepped foot into the nba.

And damn guess it's about time for Rondo's retirement

[blablabla]

i am sure he will make it on some highlight reels

[Yung D-Will]

I think you're just mad the Jazz suck.
...

[chips93]

In the 2010-11 season with Barcelona he averaged
5.9 PPG, 32.1 FG%, 4 APG, 3.3 RPG in 22.9 MPG.

Now I know he's been improving during the lockout but he definitely won't be a beast in the NBA. He'll probably just about crack into the starting lineup of the T'Wolves but will get limited minutes with Luke Ridnour.

who, in the last year or two, has claimed that he would be?

[Rose]

Dude is gonna be great. like Yung said, he's with Adelman. One of the three or so best coaches in the NBA right now. And one of the best, and most underrated of all time. He has one discernable skill and that's all you need in the NBA: he's already a top notch passer. Plus he has good defensive values. He may not electrify the NBA this year or next, but this kid is gonna make the all rookie team, and quite honestly it wouldn't surprise me if he had a better year than Irving.

He's got so many good scorers to pass too it doesn't matter that he's not an efficient jumpshooter. He'll get open looks because of Love passing it out to him after a rebound for a three. Or Williams and Beasley scoring a ton will take the pressure off of him.

[Shade8780]

who, in the last year or two, has claimed that he would be?
:facepalm Read the first post

[iggy>]

Jrue>>>>>>>>>>

[Yung D-Will]

Dude is gonna be great. like Yung said, he's with Adelman. One of the three or so best coaches in the NBA right now. And one of the best, and most underrated of all time. He has one discernable skill and that's all you need in the NBA: he's already a top notch passer. Plus he has good defensive values. He may not electrify the NBA this year or next, but this kid is gonna make the all rookie team, and quite honestly it wouldn't surprise me if he had a better year than Irving.

He's got so many good scorers to pass too it doesn't matter that he's not an efficient jumpshooter. He'll get open looks because of Love passing it out to him after a rebound for a three. Or Williams and Beasley scoring a ton will take the pressure off of him.
:cheers:

[chips93]

:facepalm Read the first post

my bad

my point was though, that there was hype surrounding rubio, its [retty much gone now, but some people are hating on him, as if there is still hype surrounding him.

[Shepseskaf]

what has this kid done to garner this much hate?
First of all, it was the overwhelming hype, based mostly on the minutes played against the US squad in the '08 Olympics. The kid did well, but people were promoting him like the second coming of Maravich, and such nonsense. There was also a strong "great white hope" quality to the whole thing, which I found offensive.

Then, there was the "will I, won't I" situation with him coming over to play for the TWolves. In my mind, he didn't have the game, or potential game, to jerk people around the way that he was. This is the main problem I had with him, because it wasn't someone else hyping him up, it was the player himself screwing around with indecision.

So, he's certainly given people reasons to dislike him because of all the hype, and the prevailing opinion that he simply isn't that good. If he had the potential to come over and light the league up, all of this would be viewed differently.

I think he's not going to be able to keep up defensively, despite more hype about his supposed steals skills. He could turn up to be the worse defensive guard since Nash. We'll see.

[BarberSchool]

I don't understand why people hate on players for no reason and want them to fail so badly.Reasons some do it:

1. the player isn't their same race/culture/socioeconomic class.
2. the player is either too loud or too softspoken.
3. the player plays for a rival squad.
4. the player is actually an @sshole (Garnett)
5. the player made "the decision"

[alenleomessi]

he is probably gonna average more assists than points :oldlol:

[senelcoolidge]

I think because of all the hype he will get an opportunity to start, but end up as the back up to Luke Ridnour. Rubio 5-7ppg 3-6 apg 40% or less shooting from the field.

[cuad]

Rubio is really a Spanish Rondo. He gets most of his praise for passing, but he's also an incredible rebounder for a guard and gets lots of steals.

You can compare their advanced stats here http://www.in-the-game.org/?page_id=9936 and here http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rondora01.html

If anyone doesn't speculate on the number of rebounds that Rubio will get, it means that they don't know anything about him at all, because rebounding is part of his game.

[DevilsAssassin]

he is probably gonna average more assists than points :oldlol:

nothing with that.

1PPG 2APG:confusedshrug:

J/K

[Euroleague]

Americans obviously have no clue as to how pathetic his offense was in Euroleague.

[alenleomessi]

nothing with that.

1PPG 2APG:confusedshrug:

J/K
nah i was thinking more like 6/8

[alwaysunny]

Americans obviously have no clue as to how pathetic his offense was in Euroleague.

You're an American too

[Lucifer]

Rubio! RU- BI- OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Fiasco]

You're an American too

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[JellyBean]

The Ricky Rubio era begins in the Twin Cities. I am not sure about the rest of my Timberwolves fans, but I am looking forward to watching Ricky direct the Timberwolves team this season. Sure we will have some growing pains, but I can deal with that. Let's get it started!!!!


Timberwolves!!!

[Rnbizzle]

Americans obviously have no clue as to how pathetic his offense was in Euroleague.
http://www.myonlinemaps.com/images/arkansas-map.gif

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :lol :lol

[SunsCaptain]

If you are a point guard in the NBA and you can't shoot somewhat consistently.. you are worthless.

Rondo? Anyways by the look of things Ricky Rubio will have a pretty sweet jump shot this year. (At least he is working on it) But I bet you the majority of his scoring comes from penetration like Rondo since shooting is not his strong point. That isnt bad either. Having a quick PG that scored off penetration will require help defense and let Rubio outlet the ball for some wide open looks.

:applause:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjFQ8UFtbu4&feature=player_embedded

[Fiasco]

Rondo?

An exception, not the rule. Go ahead and find me another successful point guard with zero shooting touch who is successful in the modern NBA. I'll wait.

Even with nobody guarding him, Rubio's shot mechanics are still terrible. He's shooting set shots... in a charity game.

Kill me now, Lord.

[Yung D-Will]

An exception, not the rule. Go ahead and find me another successful point guard with zero shooting touch who is successful in the modern NBA. I'll wait.

Even with nobody guarding him, Rubio's shot mechanics are still terrible. He's shooting set shots... in a charity game.

Kill me now, Lord.

And that's why he's been working with shooting coaches all summer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjFQ8UFtbu4&feature=player_embedded

So if he's working on his jumpshot before he even steps onto an nba court what's the problem? How can you hate on a 21 year old kid working on his weaknesses with coaches before he plays a single game...

My god.

[Fatal9]

will help him out that in the NBA, he'll be surrounded with better players/finishers.

his shooting though :facepalm

[Fiasco]

And that's why he's been working with shooting coaches all summer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjFQ8UFtbu4&feature=player_embedded

So if he's working on his jumpshot before he even steps onto an nba court what's the problem? How can you hate on a 21 year old kid working on his weaknesses with coaches before he plays a single game...

My god.

Because a shooting coach won't fix everything. Aminu worked with a shooting coach before and after he was drafted, and after his hot start at the beginning of the season, he fell back down to earth.

I have no problem with Rubio. I have a problem with people citing Rondo as a reason Rubio will be successful in this league.

Christ.

[SunsCaptain]

An exception, not the rule. Go ahead and find me another successful point guard with zero shooting touch who is successful in the modern NBA. I'll wait.

Even with nobody guarding him, Rubio's shot mechanics are still terrible. He's shooting set shots... in a charity game.

Kill me now, Lord.

Jason Kidd.

[Fiasco]

Jason Kidd.

Both Rondo and Kidd are all-world defenders.

Kidd won his ring after he developed a 3 point shot.

What is Rubio, again?

[SunsCaptain]

Both Rondo and Kidd are all-world defenders.

Kidd won his ring after he developed a 3 point shot.

What is Rubio, again?

You know Defense is one of Rubio's strong points?....

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/ricky-rubio

Looks like in Euroleague he averaged 2 steals a game and in eurocup he averaged 2.4 steals a game.

[Fiasco]

You know Defense is one of Rubio's strong points?....

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/ricky-rubio

Looks like in Euroleague he averaged 2 steals a game and in eurocup he averaged 2.4 steals a game.

Good job. Stats that rely on gambling really help your argument.

His comparison on nbadraft.net is Jose Calderon. That really tells you all you need to know.

[SunsCaptain]

Good job. Stats that rely on gambling really help your argument.

His comparison on nbadraft.net is Jose Calderon. That really tells you all you need to know.

It also says his comparison is Steve Nash too...But selective reading can be fun...

Personally I think Jason Kidd is a good comparison.

[SunsCaptain]

What I cant understand...

I mean I can not grasp this concept at all....

What kind of people hate a player because other people are fans of them?

So foolish.

[Yung D-Will]

Both Rondo and Kidd are all-world defenders.

Kidd won his ring after he developed a 3 point shot.

What is Rubio, again?

^
The guy who won spanish defensive player of the year...

And to your other post all you're stating is that he has a weakness like many rookies who are coming to to the nba. And all I'm telling you is that he's working with trainers to fix his that weakness. I'm not saying I know the result of that training but talking like because he doesn't have a jumpshot at age 21 is gonna determine his whole future seems irrational to me.

[I.R.Beast]

Both Rondo and Kidd are all-world defenders.

Kidd won his ring after he developed a 3 point shot.

What is Rubio, again?

Rondo all world defender?...you kidding me right?...Rondo is an exception because of what he is surrounded by and also his ability to jet past virtually everyone. Rubio most certainly won't be jetting past everyone

[G-train]

Americans obviously have no clue as to how pathetic his offense was in Euroleague.

Like how pathetic Jennings was?

Rubio has a style that is suited to the NBA and not Europe, you of all people should see this.

He will be a fine NBA player.

He has speed, size, flair, defensive ability and court vision. 5 valuable things in the NBA.

[G-train]

Kidd was no better a shooter at the same age roughly.

[DuMa]

the kidd comparisons are ridiculous. right away we all knew kidd was gonna be a superstar from his first season in. he had elite speed, elite handles, elite vision and elite rebounding for a PG. had an incredible knack for starting a fastbreak from his own rebound. sure he had a shaky J but it never made us doubt he was a legit NBA star.

rubio has nothing elite about his game at all.

[Harrison_Barnes]

Hope he busts.. don't understand the hype around him. :confusedshrug:

[Yung D-Will]

the kidd comparisons are ridiculous. right away we all knew kidd was gonna be a superstar from his first season in. he had elite speed, elite handles, elite vision and elite rebounding for a PG. had an incredible knack for starting a fastbreak from his own rebound. sure he had a shaky J but it never made us doubt he was a legit NBA star.

rubio has nothing elite about his game at all.


Yawn. You actually typed something out this time? Usally isn't it just " Rubio Sucks" Then you leave the thread?

[Yung D-Will]

Hope he busts.. don't understand the hype around him. :confusedshrug:
I never understood that, why would you hope a player is a bust?

There's certain players I believe were gonna be bust like Hasheem Thabeet, Demarcus Cousins and Johnny Flynn but I never "hoped" that they'd be bust.

I don't see why people can want someone to fail so badly.

[FireMcFailPlease]

rubio will be the shit in the nba. no hand checks in this league which will free him up.

[gutshot]

Hey I watched this guy a lot. Even live in the arena! Yes, he can do certain things pretty well but overall, he is a second round draft pick nothing more!!

[G-train]

the kidd comparisons are ridiculous. right away we all knew kidd was gonna be a superstar from his first season in. he had elite speed, elite handles, elite vision and elite rebounding for a PG. had an incredible knack for starting a fastbreak from his own rebound. sure he had a shaky J but it never made us doubt he was a legit NBA star.

rubio has nothing elite about his game at all.

Shooting comparisons arent ridiculous.

[B-Easy8]

I never understood that, why would you hope a player is a bust?

There's certain players I believe were gonna be bust like Hasheem Thabeet, Demarcus Cousins and Johnny Flynn but I never "hoped" that they'd be bust.

I don't see why people can want someone to fail so badly.

Yeah I don't get it. The consensus seems to be that people don't like him because when he was young the American media hyped him up too much.

In the league now there aren't too many PG's who play like him, that's why im going to be rooting for him. He is a pass first PG which is exactly what I want to see back in the game. I don't like watching Rose, Westbrook etc (not saying there not good but I like pass first pg's better) instead I like pg's like Kidd who set up an offence properly.

[Fiasco]

It also says his comparison is Steve Nash too...But selective reading can be fun...

Personally I think Jason Kidd is a good comparison.

That's his high end. You know, if he actually develops a shot.

Sometimes using your brain is just as fun.


^
The guy who won spanish defensive player of the year...

Congratulations... who else has won the prestiguos SDPOY award that is worth mentioning?


Rondo all world defender?...you kidding me right?...Rondo is an exception because of what he is surrounded by and also his ability to jet past virtually everyone. Rubio most certainly won't be jetting past everyone

Are you actually retarded?

http://www.backpicks.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Top-Defensive-PGs-2011.jpg

Please cease breathing.

[Harrison_Barnes]

I never understood that, why would you hope a player is a bust?

There's certain players I believe were gonna be bust like Hasheem Thabeet, Demarcus Cousins and Johnny Flynn but I never "hoped" that they'd be bust.

I don't see why people can want someone to fail so badly.

Well I do think he's going to bust.. but the reason I hope he does is to shut up all the people that are hyping him. Once the ink hit the contract, he became a millionaire.. so theres no real reason I should wish him to do well.. if you know what I mean? Its not like i'm hoping he breaks his leg or something.

[G-train]

Well I do think he's going to bust.. but the reason I hope he does is to shut up all the people that are hyping him. Once the ink hit the contract, he became a millionaire.. so theres no real reason I should wish him to do well.. if you know what I mean? Its not like i'm hoping he breaks his leg or something.

So... even if he is a nice guy that works hard and is a good team mate, you hope he busts because other people, out of his control, hype him?

Cool.










:facepalm


I hope he does well to prove haters like you wrong.

[Yung D-Will]

Well I do think he's going to bust.. but the reason I hope he does is to shut up all the people that are hyping him. Once the ink hit the contract, he became a millionaire.. so theres no real reason I should wish him to do well.. if you know what I mean? Its not like i'm hoping he breaks his leg or something.
But that's the thing. There's far more people claiming he's going to fail than hyping him up so I don't see how that's a good reason to hope he's a bust

[Fiasco]

Nobody wants to see him fail.

I just want everyone to shut the **** up about how good he's going to be when he can't even shoot at the NBA level.

[Harrison_Barnes]

But that's the thing. There's far more people claiming he's going to fail than hyping him up so I don't see how that's a good reason to hope he's a bust

People might not be hyping him up as much now, but they definitely did before. If he plays well, good for him. I just don't think he's going to be good, and I hope he proves me right.

[Yung D-Will]

Nobody wants to see him fail.

I just want everyone to shut the **** up about how good he's going to be when he can't even shoot at the NBA level.

If you actually belive the bolded then you're delusional.

And I just want everyone to shut the **** up about how good Kyrie is gonna be when he's clearly not as talented as he's hyped up to be ( The next Isiah Thomas/Chris Paul)or nba ready imo. Either way that doesn't give me the right to try and claim everyone who think he's gonna be great at the nba level is wrong especilly considering he hasn't stepped foot on an nba court.

Get over it you're not gonna think every rookie is gonna be succesful. Some times you're gonna be right and sometimes you're gonna be wrong but either way you never know until the season starts.

And no matter the player as long as they're a top 5 pick you're gonna have tons of people hyping him up don't act like it's something exclusive to Rubio.

[Fiasco]

If you actually belive the bolded then you're delusional.

Well I don't. So let's just get that out in the open.


And I just want everyone to shut the **** up about how good Kyrie is gonna be when he's clearly not as talented as he's hyped up to be ( The next Isiah Thomas/Chris Paul)or nba ready imo.

I don't think Irving is going to be any good either.


Either way that doesn't give me the right to try and claim everyone who think he's gonna be great at the nba level is wrong especilly considering he hasn't stepped foot on an nba court.

You don't think you're entitled to your own opinion?


Get over it you're not gonna think every rookie is gonna be succesful. Some times you're gonna be right and sometimes you're gonna be wrong but either way you never know until the season starts

Basically.

[Yung D-Will]

People might not be hyping him up as much now, but they definitely did before. If he plays well, good for him. I just don't think he's going to be good, and I hope he proves me right.

I can agree with if you don't think he's going to be good. However I don't think I'll ever be able to understand why you'd hope someone proves you right about them being a bust. Every player I've claimed is a bust I hope they prove me wrong because I like to see young players reach their potential.

But none the less that's your perspective

[Harrison_Barnes]

I can agree with if you don't think he's going to be good. However I don't think I'll ever be able to understand why you'd hope someone proves you right about them being a bust. Every player I've claimed is a bust I hope they prove me wrong because I like to see young players reach their potential.

But none the less that's your perspective

Don't get me wrong, I usually like to see young players develop and reach their potential. Theres just something about Rubio, he's like the exception to the rule for me haha. Frig I even wanted Thabeet to do well. :lol

[sick_brah07]

i think rubio will be solid and if he builds enough confidence he just might be great in a few years, i dont think adelman will help him THAT much, his a great coach but i dont think his that great with rookies were he will turn them into superstars

[jamal99]

I hope that he will do fine, but I seriously doubt it...

[kumquat]

In the 2010-11 season with Barcelona he averaged
5.9 PPG, 32.1 FG%, 4 APG, 3.3 RPG in 22.9 MPG.
.

:roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

Luke Ridnour eat your heart out.

[chips93]

what did brandon jennings average in europe again?

oh yeah . . .

euro stats dont translate to nba stats. rubio, like jennings before him was in a very unique situation.

[G-train]

Show me some of these NBA PG's stats in Europe.
Jennings, Lawson, etc.

[kumquat]

Show me some of these NBA PG's stats in Europe.
Jennings, Lawson, etc.

The funny thing is Rubio's game is shaped for Euro style play and he puts up that garbage. He can't shoot and lacks athleticism, doesn't run a team well. What can he do?

[Ronin]

I think he'll be good but not like All NBA good

[MeLO MvP 15]

The funny thing is Rubio's game is shaped for Euro style play and he puts up that garbage. He can't shoot and lacks athleticism, doesn't run a team well. What can he do?
That's contradicting what most say. Most say that good shooters and gritty defenders thrive in the NBA, that's why people thought Rondo and Westbrook (at the time wasn't considered the best shooter) would struggle in FIBA ball. I think Rubio's game is more fitted for the NBA actually. I'm not saying he'll be a star, but I think he'll end up as a solid starting PG.

And I don't think there's any doubt that his game is perfect for that type of "barn-storming/ pick up type" game. That's why he had so many nice highlights, a fast game with no set offense where you just play freely and little to no defense.

[pauk]

cant wait to see him in the NBA.... love the dudes passing ability & court vision....

[kumquat]

That's contradicting what most say. Most say that good shooters and gritty defenders thrive in the NBA, that's why people thought Rondo and Westbrook (at the time wasn't considered the best shooter) would struggle in FIBA ball. I think Rubio's game is more fitted for the NBA actually. I'm not saying he'll be a star, but I think he'll end up as a solid starting PG.

And I don't think there's any doubt that his game is perfect for that type of "barn-storming/ pick up type" game. That's why he had so many nice highlights, a fast game with no set offense where you just play freely and little to no defense.

Rondo is an elite defender, Westbrook is an elite slasher. Rubio is neither of those.

[Yung D-Will]

Rondo is an elite defender, Westbrook is an elite slasher. Rubio is neither of those.

Yawn keep reaching I remember very few people calling Rondo and elite defender when he first entered the leauge.

The way you're posting it seems like Rubio already played 3 years in the nba and is incapable of doing anything.

[MiseryCityTexas]

rick adleman will give rubio jason williams in sacramento type of minutes if he lands the starting gig.

[kumquat]

Yawn keep reaching I remember very few people calling Rondo and elite defender when he first entered the leauge.

The way you're posting it seems like Rubio already played 3 years in the nba and is incapable of doing anything.

I call bullshit on that, Rondo was a great defender in college.

[Maga_1]

The funny thing is Rubio's game is shaped for Euro style play and he puts up that garbage. He can't shoot and lacks athleticism, doesn't run a team well. What can he do?
:oldlol:

[SunsCaptain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqISq30cy8

ROFL...this is the news site if you read the comment on the video.

http://www.marca.com/blogs/tiros-libres/2011/11/28/pasion-por-ricky-convierten-la-cancion.html

[bdreason]

I think we got a steal in Jeremy Tyler.

Looking forward to Derozan and Harden next season too. I feel like both those guys are on the cusp of becoming great players.


As for Rubio, I think his game will flourish in the NBA. Think Rondo with less defense and more court vision.

[Lebron23]

Ricky never showed some improvement in his last 2 years in the Euroleague. Let see if he become a quality starting PG in the NBA.

[Euroleague]

Show me some of these NBA PG's stats in Europe.
Jennings, Lawson, etc.

All 3 of the players suck. I don't see what your point is.

[Euroleague]

rubio will be the shit in the nba. no hand checks in this league which will free him up.

He uses hand checking for his own defense. So how will his good defense translate with a no hand check rule?

"Free him up"............he was left wide open and unguarded in Euroleague. How could he be "freed up" anymore when he was already left unguarded in Euroleague?

Please explain that to me.

[FireMcFailPlease]

He uses hand checking for his own defense. So how will his good defense translate with a no hand check rule?

"Free him up"............he was left wide open and unguarded in Euroleague. How could he be "freed up" anymore when he was already left unguarded in Euroleague?

Please explain that to me.
i meant with the ball in his hands.. face it, nba fans put the boom or bust label on offensive side way more than defensive side of the ball.

he dont need to score more than 10 ppg, i doubt he will. but he'll run the offense a hell of a lot better than flynn ever did and he's one of the best passers we've seen come out of the draft in years.

and yes, shooting the basketball- people get better at it.

[Euroleague]

i meant with the ball in his hands.. face it, nba fans put the boom or bust label on offensive side way more than defensive side of the ball.

he dont need to score more than 10 ppg, i doubt he will. but he'll run the offense a hell of a lot better than flynn ever did and he's one of the best passers we've seen come out of the draft in years.

and yes, shooting the basketball- people get better at it.


He was left unguarded with the ball in his hands in Euroleague. Teams didn't even bother to guard him anymore when he had the ball either.

[JMT]

i meant with the ball in his hands.. face it, nba fans put the boom or bust label on offensive side way more than defensive side of the ball.

he dont need to score more than 10 ppg, i doubt he will. but he'll run the offense a hell of a lot better than flynn ever did and he's one of the best passers we've seen come out of the draft in years.

and yes, shooting the basketball- people get better at it.

Fans may slobber over offense vs defense. Coaching staffs don't.

He'll struggle mightily to score and get abused on defense.

His ability to make spectacular passes will be directly impacted by his not having the ball in his hands all the time and not playing vs zones. All the open space to throw those passes is going to be in the 10' around him that nobody guards.

Rubio equates to that amazingly fast college RB that comes into the NFL. Fans that don't really understand the game can't imagine why he's not playing all the time. But his liabilities in pass protection and inability to catch the ball are the things that keep you off the field in the NFL, just like Rubio's deficiencies will keep him off the court in the NBA.

Johnny Flynn will look like Isiah Thomas in comparison.

[IGotACoolStory]

Bump for Euro

[oolalaa]

Ricky Rubio's stat line for next season:

20 mpg, 5 ppg on 35% shooting, 1 rpg, 5 apg, 1 spg and defence comparable to 37 year old Steve Nash.

You're lucky to have him T-Wolves fans...:banana:

[Yung D-Will]

Ricky Rubio's stat line for next season:

20 mpg, 5 ppg on 35% shooting, 1 rpg, 5 apg, 1 spg and defence comparable to 37 year old Steve Nash.

You're lucky to have him T-Wolves fans...:banana:
Right.. Irrational haters are the greatest

[oolalaa]

Right.. Irrational haters are the greatest

I'm not irrational. He will be a good point guard down the road but his first season will be rough (especially efficiency wise).

[eazyduzzit10]

wow...different sport but all the hate reminds me of how so many people wanted Cam Newton to fail. Give the kid a chance, let's remember there are also players who are lights-out shooters that are bums too.

[JMT]

wow...different sport but all the hate reminds me of how so many people wanted Cam Newton to fail. Give the kid a chance, let's remember there are also players who are lights-out shooters that are bums too.

Can only speak for myself.

I wanted and continue to want nothing but the worst for Newton. Low character liar who got thrown out of one school for stealing from a student who actually had to pay his way to college. Then got paid to play at another school, escaping penalty because the BCSPN didn't want to jeopardize their Make Believe Championship.

That said, there was little question that physically the guy had the tools. His success throwing the ball has been a bit of a surprise to me, but he looks too much like a bigger, stronger Randall Cunningham for me to write him off.

Rubio, on the other hand, barely moves the Doosh-o-meter while Newton pegs it. Yeah, the hype about him is absurd, but that's not really his fault. Can't even blame him for working Minnesota for his contract. There's a sucker born every minute, and he'd have been the next sucker born if he didn't take advantage of the opportunity.

But in his case, I don't see the skill set or physical tools that will make him a successful NBA player. He can't shoot at anything close to an NBA level. He won't be able to defend NBA guards. As others noted, the hand checking and passing lane defense that's gotten him by...barely...in Europe won't work here. He's a novelty act who caught lightning in a bottle.

So while I understand your comparison, it doesn't hold up for me. I don't want Newton to succeed, but acknowledge that with his gifts he probably will. I don't care if Rubio succeeds, just don't see that he has anywhere near the tools necessary to do so.

[CelticBaller]

Rubio is going to be an epic fail. He sucked in spain, he'll suck worse in the NBA.
:lol

[Mrofir]

you bunch of whiny American xenophobic retards


WHAT NOW -- There is A LOT of crow for you to finish and you seem to have left the table. GTF back here and let's hear your latest excuse!

updated stats as of 1\14 -- now the starting PG, that didn't take long did it?

10\8\4 on 46\42\72 shooting and throw in close to 2 stl a game. I withheld predictions for this kid because I didn't really get to see him play a whole lot. When I did, I came away impressed. But I know for a fact that many of you didn't see a thing and put him down (and exposed your bigoted views in the process) anyway because of some disgusting irrational views you hold about foreigners or euro ball or whatever.

EAT UP ommm nom nom nom

[christian1923]

Favorite player to watch right now. i never know what this little fucccker is going to do! :lol

[SunsCaptain]

Woooo. Rickyyyy Rubioooo!

:party:

As i stated earlier.. I want you all to eat your words. lol

Swollow 'em good.