New Jersey Nets Free Agency Thread!

[D12"Magic"]

Well here it is, here's to a good Free Agency :cheers:

So, Ak-47 is very likely to sign with us, he fits are needs for the SF position easily, hes a good re bounder and his defense and stealing ability is great.

Jamal Crawford's agent has many ties with the Nets, and Jamal has stated he wants to play with Deron. Jamal is apparently on the Nets list.

To be honest, I'm not interested in signing him at all, he is a good offensive threat but at SG Position Morrow is good and Marshon Brooks seems like he could expand his college game into the NBA.

I really hope BK does not over pay Kris Humphries.
Farmar recently stated he wants a higher role, with the acquisition of Deron Williams he wont get much of that so he may not be on our team during the 2011-12 season.

Lets Discuss possible scenarios and such!

[Nets fan 93]

I really want them to keep Humphries for the right price. Definitely a starting SF. Damion James isnt going to cut it. No way we are seeing outlaw next season. We also need some big man depth if we retain Humphries. a big that can produce off the bench like Collison(not a FA just an example). If Humphries wants too much I would like to see a nice push for Nene. There's no way he can't play PF. No thanks to Crawford.

[D12"Magic"]

I really want them to keep Humphries for the right price. Definitely a starting SF. Damion James isnt going to cut it. No way we are seeing outlaw next season. We also need some big man depth if we retain Humphries. a big that can produce off the bench like Collison(not a FA just an example). If Humphries wants too much I would like to see a nice push for Nene. There's no way he can't play PF. No thanks to Crawford.
Agreed with everything, Crawford is good but he is not necessary, as our main problems are not with the SG position.

[MTing]

Yeah I agree on Crawford. I love the guy but he'd just create a log jam at the SG spot. If we sign him, it would make sense to drop Morrow or Marshon.

Outlaws definitely our amnesty drop so that gives us some room. We'd need a new SF so hopefully we can land Tayshuan, AK, or Caron Butler. I'd be pretty happy with either of those 3.

I hope we can land David West, hes a perfect fit for Brook in my opinion. And we've seen what he did with Chris Paul. Deron can do the same.

Also the amnesty clause can really open the door for us. I'm hearing Brandon Roy might get released cause of his knee problems. I'd definitly make a move for him rather then Crawford if we are perusing him.

[gigantes]

i liked the idea of the nets using their stock of draft picks to rebuild the team, but now that williams must be kept happy it really turns up the pressure and the risks.

this is not a spectacular FA class. most of these guys have some significant question marks, and the ones that don't are going to get overpaid somewhere. and yet something needs to be done to inspire d-will to stay. definitely the howard trade solves all problems, but is it really going to happen?

i don't envy billy king at all.

[D12"Magic"]

Excited for the season to start.

[D12"Magic"]

"Tyson Chandler, the free agent center who helped Dallas win the NBA title last spring, is "interested’’ in the Nets, according to someone familiar with his thinking. The person did not wish to be identified because he is not authorized to speak for Chandler.

Chandler, and Denver’s Nene, are perhaps the Nets’ two biggest targets in free agency, as GM Billy King said the team will be targeting big men as its No. 1 priority. Currently, Jordan Williams — who isn’t even signed — is the only power forward on the roster. The team might look to bring back Kris Humphries depending on how it goes with their other targets.

Lower on the priority list is a small forward, and Thaddeus Young, a restricted free agent from Philadelphia, is believed to be on King’s wish list. King did admit today he is interested in some restricted free agents, in addition to unrestricted free agents. But with restricted free agents, teams will have three days to match an offer sheet submitted by a rival team interested in signing that player. And with an abbreviated free agency period — at the moment, the plan is for free agency to begin Dec. 9, the same day day that training camps are expected to open — it might be risky for a team to sign a player to an offer sheet and have to wait three days to learn whether it will get him or not.

Players are probably going to be signing left and right in the first hours of free agency, so If the Nets were to sign a restricted free agent, and the player’s original team matched the offer, the three-day matching period may end up costing the Nets a shot at an alternative free agent."
colin stephenson"

[Nets fan 93]

Thaddeous is someone I've wanted for a while. Forget Tyson. He is not worth what he will be asking for. Thinking back at his bobcats days gives me chills.

[D12"Magic"]

Thaddeous is someone I've wanted for a while. Forget Tyson. He is not worth what he will be asking for. Thinking back at his bobcats days gives me chills.
Tayshaun Prince would be great also.

[MTing]

Thaddeous is someone I've wanted for a while. Forget Tyson. He is not worth what he will be asking for. Thinking back at his bobcats days gives me chills.
CP3 and JKidd made Tyson a pretty solid player though. I'm not doubting Deron can do that same for him. Though I dont get why we're going for another 7 footer. Are we really gonna stick Tyson or Nene at PF? I dont see a point in paying a large contract to either of them to come of the bench am I right?

[Nets fan 93]

CP3 and JKidd made Tyson a pretty solid player though. I'm not doubting Deron can do that same for him. Though I dont get why we're going for another 7 footer. Are we really gonna stick Tyson or Nene at PF? I dont see a point in paying a large contract to either of them to come of the bench am I right?
I heard signing one of them would result in Brook sliding over to the power forward position. I just keep praying the Nets get Howard at this point.

[D12"Magic"]

I heard signing one of them would result in Brook sliding over to the power forward position. I just keep praying the Nets get Howard at this point.
Im sure Nene could slide to PF instead of Lopez maybe?

[D12"Magic"]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
A growing number of execs starting to believe that Magic will indeed give strong consideration to doing Dwight deal before season starts
5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Rep

[Nets fan 93]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
A growing number of execs starting to believe that Magic will indeed give strong consideration to doing Dwight deal before season starts
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Yeah I saw that tweet. Lets hope this is legit stuff. It would have to be before FA starts too.. right?

[gigantes]

funny, i was looking up nene on WP just now and had to pick his link out from this list:
[quote]Nene (bird), also called Nēnē and Hawaiian Goose, Branta sandvicensis, a rare goose
Nene (trail), a Seminole Indian word meaning "street"
N

[Nets fan 93]

6 more days!! Dang there is a lot of Nene's out there.. haha

[D12"Magic"]

[B]Deron Williams
So relieved found a house

[D12"Magic"]

Looks like Nets may offer a Max Contract or close to it, to Nene.

[D12"Magic"]

NBA schedules come out tomorrow night. My sources tell me the #Nets and #Knicks are road heavy early. #NYK #JN
From Al who is now a Knicks Beat Writer.

Aw Shucks .

[Nets fan 93]

NBA schedules come out tomorrow night. My sources tell me the #Nets and #Knicks are road heavy early. #NYK #JN
From Al who is now a Knicks Beat Writer.

Aw Shucks .
As long as I can still watch em on tv... Lets Go! cant wait:rockon:

[D12"Magic"]

As long as I can still watch em on tv... Lets Go! cant wait:rockon:
The Nets won 5 games on the road last year.
Also Schedules to be released today around 7

[Nets fan 93]

The Nets won 5 games on the road last year.
Also Schedules to be released v today around 7
:violin: That's scary! ouch... nice. Can't wait to see it.

[MTing]

You know, I think that targeting Nene and Tyson are insurance policies in case Dwight doesnt come here.
I feel that the front office is gonna try to trade Lopez for good role players (or a good Forward) and then Tyson/Nene would end up taking over the center spot.

Am I crazy for thinking this? :lol

[Nets fan 93]

You know, I think that targeting Nene and Tyson are insurance policies in case Dwight doesnt come here.
I feel that the front office is gonna try to trade Lopez for good role players (or a good Forward) and then Tyson/Nene would end up taking over the center spot.

Am I crazy for thinking this? :lol
Yes... Yes you are.

[MTing]

Yes... Yes you are.
Okay LOL
Just wondering.

[MTing]

Soo looks like we're getting screwed again in this years free agency.

[Nets fan 93]

Soo looks like we're getting screwed again in this years free agency.
Nene or bust!

[MTing]

Josh Howard is still available too and I would take him considering how well he played for the Mavs when Avery was there. He could rejuvenate his career here.

In other news, Tyson goes to NYK and CP3 looks like hes getting traded to the Lakers :facepalm . Dwight must not to to LA or else the NBA will seriously just consist of every star player wanting to team up with each other.

[Nets fan 93]

Josh Howard is still available too and I would take him considering how well he played for the Mavs when Avery was there. He could rejuvenate his career here.

In other news, Tyson goes to NYK and CP3 looks like hes getting traded to the Lakers :facepalm . Dwight must not to to LA or else the NBA will seriously just consist of every star player wanting to team up with each other.
Word on the street is that the lal hou no trade was rejected by the league!

[MTing]

Word on the street is that the lal hou no trade was rejected by the league!
So I heard LOL.
That helps us out immensely because now Dwights scared to ask to go to LA because of CP3 just got vetoed LOL.
Supposedly we're first on his list now =D. Cant be guaranteed though, still all just rumors.
Today started off horrible for us but ended with a bang.

[Nets fan 93]

Chris Broussard in a post-midnight tweet reports the following: "Nets have emerged as No. 1 choice for Dwight Howard, multiple sources say. D12 is expected to ask Magic to trade him to NJ."

Moreover, reports Broussard, "Nets still pursuing Nene in case deal for Howard falls through. NJ offering Brook Lopez & 2 1st rnd picks."

The trade, if it worked out, would give the Nets two of the NBA's seven best players. That is all.
http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/12/9/2622850/howard-wants-trade-to-new-jersey-nets-emerge-as-trade-partner
Backup plan is Nene

[gigantes]

chandler to the knicks is interesting. they could have made another knucklehead lateral move (similar to getting the two talented doofuses they have already), but instead got someone who actually might make that team work. on paper, anyway. using the amnesty on billups is probably not that big of a loss since carmelo and stoudemire are such monstrous ball hogs already. but adding chandler gives them instant defense and intensity. if they're smart, the coaches will use that as the foundation of a whole new defense and effort from the big two. then again, pringles remains the coach... a far cry from rick carlisle.


battier to the heat scares me a little bit. another quality player to shore up the knuckleheadedness of lebron and wade. someone who can help everyone perform more professionally and smartly. potentially, anyway.


re: CP3 to the lakers, i thought dan gilbert raised some good points in his angry rant to stern (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nba_dan_gilbert_email_lakers_hornets_trade_120811) . jerry bus was getting a free ride and NO fans were getting shafted before someone called a halt. then again, CP3's knees may be pretty shot at this point, so it would have been interesting to see that trade blow up for the lakers. especially since i think giving up odom AND gasol would have been extremely risky.


ah well... great to see some truly interesting stuff happening in the NBA in a long, LONG time...

[Nets fan 93]

Nets are currently in the lead for Nene offering 4 years/65 million. according to sources.

Stefan Bondy reports the Nets are "closing in on Nene after upping the offer last night. Went hard after the center after Chandler went to the Knicks." Meanwhile, Adrian Wojnarowski says the Nets will meet with Nene's agent, Dan Fegan on Friday afternoon where he will likely offer the Nuggets PF/C $60 to $65 million over four years, close to the max.

How this would affect the Nets interest in Dwight Howard or any of the other machinations the Nets are currently involved are unclear.
http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/12/9/2623906/bondy-nets-closing-in-on-nene

[Nets fan 93]

OFF TOPIC: Vince Carter and the Mavs are close to a deal.

Kidd-Carter reunion? :cheers:

[MTing]

OFF TOPIC: Vince Carter and the Mavs are close to a deal.

Kidd-Carter reunion? :cheers:
Would be a fun thing to watch

[D12"Magic"]

So it seems like Otis is not gonna trade Howard right away, so it looks like Nene is no choice, and we have to grab him

[Nets fan 93]

So it seems like Otis is not gonna trade Howard right away, so it looks like Nene is no choice, and we have to grab him
If Orlando wants to lose their best offer. It's on them. Go get Nene before they Nets are left with nothing!

[gigantes]

If Orlando wants to lose their best offer. It's on them. Go get Nene before they Nets are left with nothing!
otis smith lives in another dimension, obviously.

this is close to their last chance to dump turkoglu's contract and get something decent for howard. once teams spend their money for the regular season it's going to be much harder for anyone to take on turk. but the magic are painting themselves in to a corner by their pigheadedness... putting themselves in to a position of trying to trade a very annoyed, uncooperative howard at the deadline for something better than the nets offer.

yea... let me know how that works out for you.

just that it also sucks for us, having to deal with these space cadets.

[MTing]

Soo uh Nenes going back to Denver.
What now :confusedshrug: .

Please dont tell me we're just gonna sign Humphries to a huge deal and call it a day.

[SidePocket]

Welp, now it's officially D12 or bust even more than it already was...would be nice if they can swing this multi-team deal they're working on w/ ORL and then bring back Hump/sign Kirilenko.

[gigantes]

the nets are still not a sought-after destination, or at least a top destination, anyway. i think that's what's hurting us in this free agency. obviously things will improve by increments over the next couple years, but i think we have to be patient with this. no doubt a lot of players still think of us as being the 'crappy, irrelevant old nets laboring in joisey'. therefore a lot of minds are not going to see the light until they actually play some games at barclays as visiting players. so we just have to deal with it. although... having mega-stars at the one and five positions would sure solve a lot of these problems next summer.

that's my take on it, anyway.

so given the situation, i find it pretty amazing that a player of howard's caliber actually wants to play for the nets. i mean, sure, he's focusing ahead on the positives, but i don't think that would be enough were it not for the strong friendship between he and deron williams. because they're good friends and talk every day as i understand it. so if we do get howard (oh no, only three days left under the self-imposed deadline!) i think we can rightly give a lot of thanks to deron williams for persuading him to come.

that, and of course the impressiveness of both prokhy and the new arena. i think having someone like prokhorov wine and dine you is a whole level of persuasion beyond what most other owners can supply. huge amounts of power and money available to be put to your use if prokhy wants you badly enough. other owners have those things, of course, but to lesser degree. plus, much more of their available power and money is tied up in other projects, other expenses. but right now prokhy is one LIQUID mofo, if you know what i mean.

and i wouldn't be surprised if he offered howard some things that are unique- access to a platinum-plated, diamond-encrusted world that even dwight howard does not necessarily enjoy. by that i mean rubbing elbows with the richest people in the world, vacationing at their elite island resorts, being able to hang out with film stars and film starlets that are beyond the scope of even sports stars. drop-dead gorgeous women, even beyond the most beautiful NBA groupies, coming on to you for kicks. in short, prokhy is one of those rare people who can show you the cream of all material things here on earth. he'll take you with him as he jets around europe and the world, like he did with deron williams, showing him an entrancing world beyond what even the jaded rich suspected existed. in fact i wouldn't be surprised if he did charm d-will the exact same way. compare that to a fumble-fingers like james dolan who probably knows how to impress by inviting you to jam with him in front of a live audience and hooking you up with a top NYC call girl to round out the evening- impressive to some, but not nearly prokhovian.

well, enough of that speculation. :lol

EDIT: BTW, is there really money under the cap to sign howard AND hump and AK47? not saying that prokhy fears going over the cap and paying the penalties, but it's more than just about money. cap flexibility is crucial for making ongoing in-season and off-season adjustments... as we all know. ;)

[gigantes]

from netsdaily:
[quote]Howard: "Trade Me or Lose Me"

In an updated version of his story on the collapse of the Dwight Howard talks, Adrian Wojnarowski writes that Dwight Howard has warned the Magic that unless they trade him, they will lose him for nothing, in effect reminding the franchise of what happened 15 years ago when Shaquille O'Neal left Orlando without compensation.

"Howard has warned the Magic if they don

[gigantes]

i get it now- howard apparently said (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-orlando-magic-dwight-howard-1213-20111212,0,3519018.story) on monday, the 12th, that he might be willing to stay. no wonder the magic kept resisting the trade.

dwight, you son of a...

well, all i'm going to say is that son needs to make up his mind. plus four good #1 picks was a hell of a price, anyway. hopefully it will be a deadline trade for a lot less.

[Nets fan 93]

i get it now- howard apparently said (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-orlando-magic-dwight-howard-1213-20111212,0,3519018.story) on monday, the 12th, that he might be willing to stay. no wonder the magic kept resisting the trade.

dwight, you son of a...

well, all i'm going to say is that son needs to make up his mind. plus four good #1 picks was a hell of a price, anyway. hopefully it will be a deadline trade for a lot less.
Hopefully it is the Magic being scared of themselves losing him for nothing. good point.:cheers:

[Rameek]

What sucks for the Nets if they take back salary they already used the amnesty.

[SidePocket]

What sucks for the Nets if they take back salary they already used the amnesty.

Yeah. Turkoglu makes over $34M over the next three seasons, while Travis gets $28M over the next four. Not that I'm upset about having Outlol out of here, I just think they were a bit quick on the trigger with this move. Maybe this means they don't see a way D12 gets here before the season starts (which I think seems likely), or they just like Hedo better. Not sure.

[MTing]

i get it now- howard apparently said (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-orlando-magic-dwight-howard-1213-20111212,0,3519018.story) on monday, the 12th, that he might be willing to stay. no wonder the magic kept resisting the trade.

dwight, you son of a...

well, all i'm going to say is that son needs to make up his mind. plus four good #1 picks was a hell of a price, anyway. hopefully it will be a deadline trade for a lot less.

But then on the 14th he said that if they dont trade him, they're gonna lose him in FA next season.

[QUOTE]"Howard has warned the Magic if they don

[gigantes]

i remember net income or one of the national writers saying that he's changed his mind more than once. that seems to be the problem. all the magic are looking for is a little crack of sunshine through the door, and he apparently keeps giving it to them.

if he had been more hard-ass about the whole situation then they probably would have broken down at some point.

still, isn't anyone scared of the four #1 picks we almost gave up? on top of brook...

[MTing]

i remember net income or one of the national writers saying that he's changed his mind more than once. that seems to be the problem. all the magic are looking for is a little crack of sunshine through the door, and he apparently keeps giving it to them.

if he had been more hard-ass about the whole situation then they probably would have broken down at some point.

still, isn't anyone scared of the four #1 picks we almost gave up? on top of brook and wallace that seems pretty insane to me, even for a monster like dwight...

They were all our picks right?
If we're really set on becoming a contender for years to come then I dont mind trading away the future for a couple of years.

[Nets fan 93]

They were all our picks right?
If we're really set on becoming a contender for years to come then I dont mind trading away the future for a couple of years.
I think they are including Houston's pick too.
@gigantes. If the Nets get Howard they would be low picks anyway. The Nets can buy picks off of contenders if need be. Not missing out too much imo.

[gigantes]

Chad Ford reported that the Nets "offered everything they could for Howard: Brook Lopez + FIVE 1st Rd picks. Theirs in 2011, 2013, 2015, 2017 + Rockets 2011 pick."
http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/12/14/2636098/howard-trade-talks-end

...

re: 'no big deal about giving up the picks',
yea, i guess. i've seen so many times in sports these deals backfiring horribly that it does make me wonder. oh well. no pain, no big daddy kane.

[MTing]

http://www.netsdaily.com/2011/12/14/2636098/howard-trade-talks-end

...

re: 'no big deal about giving up the picks',
yea, i guess. i've seen so many times in sports these deals backfiring horribly that it does make me wonder. oh well. no pain, no big daddy kane.

No I agree. But we need to make a move now imo. I dont want to be one of those teams that are stuck in rebuilding for like 6+ years because they cant get anything in the draft.

And I feel like this deal is a lot better then the one we offered for Melo. If I remember correctly, everyone on this board was half and half because that deal would basically just leave us with Melo and Brook AND cripple our future.