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DStebb716
12-09-2011, 01:44 AM
Nets have emerged as No. 1 choice for Dwight Howard, multiple sources say. D12 is expected to ask Magic to trade him to NJ. - Broussard

Read this: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=8717

stallionaire
12-09-2011, 01:44 AM
This would be awesome.

DStebb716
12-09-2011, 01:44 AM
This is where I want him to go. Then Brooklyn can have Deron and Dwight.

Reverend Hoops
12-09-2011, 01:45 AM
Al Horford > Brook Lopez

DStebb716
12-09-2011, 01:45 AM
https://twitter.com/#!/Chris_Broussard/status/145016106761981952


Nets still pursuing Nene in case deal for Howard falls through. NJ offering Brook Lopez & 2 1st rnd picks, as @ESPNSteinLine wrote last wk

MichaelCheazley
12-09-2011, 01:45 AM
There you go dwight! Write your own legacy. MAke your impact in untouched land.

If they can get howard, sign david west and a 3 pt shooting 3

deron
morrow
3 pt shooter that can attack
west
howard

Thats a team based on howards strengths. A pf that can reb and stay out of the way with his midrange shot. Some 3 point specialists. And a pg that can feed him and take over. If they get some one like iunno wilson chandler they can be a play off team. And get a good bench also.

chazzy
12-09-2011, 01:45 AM
inb4 Stern

PyrrhusX
12-09-2011, 01:47 AM
Awesome.

Wonder if Lakers gonna get anyone loooooool

LA_Showtime
12-09-2011, 01:47 AM
Broussard needs to cancel his twitter account

bdreason
12-09-2011, 01:47 AM
I hope it's true.

talkingconch
12-09-2011, 01:48 AM
Not happening

Dw1ll
12-09-2011, 01:48 AM
id gain some respect for Dwight if he went here. Deron and Dwight would be pretty nasty.

Clippersfan86
12-09-2011, 01:48 AM
All for this. Great fit and he would look great in a Nets uniform. Love the idea of him+Deron!

Kblaze8855
12-09-2011, 01:48 AM
So players can ask where to go...long as it isnt the Lakers?

mmsupra
12-09-2011, 01:48 AM
Of course they are 1 now , these rumors :facepalm

bluechox2
12-09-2011, 01:48 AM
inb4 Stern
:lol

JohnnyWall
12-09-2011, 01:49 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Sb93j.jpg

chazzy
12-09-2011, 01:49 AM
All for this. Great fit and he would look great in a Nets uniform. Love the idea of him+Deron!
Why are you all for this? Dwight's choosing his team if he's asking to be dealt there. How is that different from CP3's situation?

DevilsAssassin
12-09-2011, 01:50 AM
Broussard needs to cancel his twitter account
:cheers:

no pun intended
12-09-2011, 01:50 AM
inb4 Stern
LOL.

Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 01:50 AM
Lakers fans reaction:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvaryrxTZm1qdpc23.gif

LA_Showtime
12-09-2011, 01:51 AM
Why are you all for this? Dwight's choosing his team if he's asking to be dealt there. How is that different from CP3's situation?

Because he's a Grade A moron. :oldlol: This whole fiasco really exposes the guys with agendas.

Meticode
12-09-2011, 01:51 AM
THis is what I like hearing the possibilities of. An overall greater competitive NBA, but outside of Deron Williams and Dwight Howard and possibly Anthony Morrow who is solid, who else do they have?

mmsupra
12-09-2011, 01:51 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Sb93j.jpg
:roll:

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 01:52 AM
Dwight + Deron would be interesting. If they can add one more piece ... that would be epic.

guy
12-09-2011, 01:52 AM
So players can ask where to go...long as it isnt the Lakers?

Well the NBA don't own the Magic, so I would guess not.

Sounds like Howard doesn't want to go to LA if CP3 isn't there. Wow the NBA really ****ed the Lakers over for once :oldlol:

Kingwillball
12-09-2011, 01:53 AM
2 Reasons the Nets Make Sense.. First off playing with Dwill will make his Life Easier and #2moving to Brooklyn the Nets will be in a Huge Media Market and he can Leave his Mark taking a Dormant Franchise to the Promised Land.

rhythmic
12-09-2011, 01:53 AM
So if NJ sends Brook & picks for Dwight, it will get vetoed too, right!?
Since Stern clearly said he doesn't like when players "dictate" where they want to go...

**** this league, I have no interest in it if this Paul trade isn't allowed.

1) We can't get Paul, for unknown "basketball" reasons.
2) We might not get Dwight, because it'll be a detriment to the parity of the league. :rolleyes:
3) Odom & Gasol, two of our key players, have to come to camp tomorrow unhappy and angry at the organization. Odom already hinted "he might go" and "why should I go where I am unwelcomed".

Just resume the lock-out, this league is a joke.

Allstar24
12-09-2011, 01:53 AM
So players can ask where to go...long as it isnt the Lakers?
:oldlol: I know, it is ridiculous.

Man I really hope this isn't true, don't do it Dwight! The fact that this rumor comes from Broussard gives me a lot of hope though.

Clippersfan86
12-09-2011, 01:53 AM
Why are you all for this? Dwight's choosing his team if he's asking to be dealt there. How is that different from CP3's situation?

:facepalm . "Expected to ask" is all speculation. Much different than CP3 telling people who he will and won't sign with or where he would prefer to go. Besides... I was just saying all for it as in... it's a very nice fit.

KOBEtherealKing
12-09-2011, 01:56 AM
I'm just :roll: atleast lakers will have a crazy season

JohnnyWall
12-09-2011, 01:56 AM
[QUOTE=rhythmic

Batz
12-09-2011, 01:56 AM
So will this get vetoed since Howard has asked for a trade there?

chazzy
12-09-2011, 01:56 AM
:facepalm . "Expected to ask" is all speculation. Much different than CP3 telling people who he will and won't sign with or where he would prefer to go. Besides... I was just saying all for it as in... it's a very nice fit.
They emerged as Dwight's #1 choice.. meaning that's where he would prefer to go to. He would ask to be traded there. So if it happens you'll be this pissed about it too?


"Stern was tired of players dictating where they were going to go".

I'm tired of the same exact sh**! It's fu**ing up the NBA this whole forcing trades to certain teams crap.

oh the horror
12-09-2011, 01:56 AM
So players can ask where to go...long as it isnt the Lakers?


Bingo. Its literally the same exact scenario, and no one is annoyed by this.

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 01:56 AM
So will this get vetoed since Howard has asked for a trade there?

If the owner of the Magic says no ... sure why not.

Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 01:57 AM
[QUOTE=rhythmic

bdreason
12-09-2011, 01:57 AM
:facepalm . "Expected to ask" is all speculation. Much different than CP3 telling people who he will and won't sign with or where he would prefer to go. Besides... I was just saying all for it as in... it's a very nice fit.


It's the same exact situation as CP3. :oldlol:

Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 01:57 AM
Bingo. Its literally the same exact scenario, and no one is annoyed by this.

No it's different.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-09-2011, 01:58 AM
So players can ask where to go...long as it isnt the Lakers?

offcourse...parity remember

still the Lakers might end up getting him

The Macho Man
12-09-2011, 01:58 AM
:facepalm . "Expected to ask" is all speculation. Much different than CP3 telling people who he will and won't sign with or where he would prefer to go. Besides... I was just saying all for it as in... it's a very nice fit.

:oldlol: Gonna make it hard to trade him if he refuses to tell anyone who he will sign an extension with.

blacknapalm
12-09-2011, 01:59 AM
It's the same exact situation as CP3. :oldlol:

maybe instead of asking, he was just going to query...totally different :rolleyes:

WeGetRing2012
12-09-2011, 01:59 AM
I thought Dwight wanted to win championships? Might as well stay in ORL

chazzy
12-09-2011, 01:59 AM
The NBA isn't paying the Magic's salaries, nor are they trying to sell the team. Different situation.

Stern wouldn't have blocked Bynum + Gasol for Dwight. Call Mitch, and tell him to make an offer quick.
The blockage was made for "basketball reasons" supposedly unrelated to the owners, and judging by the Gilbert's letter, the owners were more pissed about the Lakers getting Paul and saving money rather than having to pay $15M collectively for the Hornets.

JohnnyWall
12-09-2011, 01:59 AM
The NBA isn't paying the Magic's salaries, nor are they trying to sell the team. Different situation.

Stern wouldn't have blocked Bynum + Gasol for Dwight. Call Mitch, and tell him to make an offer quick.

Stern DID block Dwight going to the Lakers and he knows it.

If he would have let the CP3 trade go through, it was all but a guarantee that Dwight would join CP3 and Kobe.

Reverend Hoops
12-09-2011, 01:59 AM
Dwight is asking politely, CP3 didn't.

fubu05
12-09-2011, 02:00 AM
veereryyyyyy interesting. Keep the thread going, I have to study for a final but I don't want to.

Nets fan 93
12-09-2011, 02:01 AM
where are all the haters? LETS GO. This is the reason the Nets have been quiet!!!!!!!!:cheers: :rockon:

El Kabong
12-09-2011, 02:01 AM
I hope the Nets do get him, just as a reason to convince Deron to stay. Jazz got plenty for him, it'd suck to see the Nets lose him for nothing.

PyrrhusX
12-09-2011, 02:01 AM
The NBA isn't paying the Magic's salaries, nor are they trying to sell the team. Different situation.

Stern wouldn't have blocked Bynum + Gasol for Dwight. Call Mitch, and tell him to make an offer quick.

Agreed.

What is so hard to understand in this scenario?
NBA does not own the Magic.
It's going to take a while before Laker fans (predominantly) get over the CP3 debacle, but there is a different situation in Orlando when compared to New Orleans.

Clippersfan86
12-09-2011, 02:01 AM
Dwight's actually done a good job about not making any demands to his circle. Which is why most were so sure he would make it longer before being traded where as CP3 was being shopped much harder.

If Dwight starts acting like a diva about this as much as CP3 I'll be happy to criticize him. It's not like I'm a Dwight homer or anything.

Clippersfan86
12-09-2011, 02:02 AM
Agreed.

What is so hard to understand in this scenario?
NBA does not own the Magic.
It's going to take a while before Laker fans (predominantly) get over the CP3 debacle, but there is a different situation in Orlando when compared to New Orleans.

Yup. Multiple differences.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-09-2011, 02:03 AM
Dwight's actually done a good job about not making any demands to his circle. Which is why most were so sure he would make it longer before being traded where as CP3 was being shopped much harder.

If Dwight starts acting like a diva about this as much as CP3 I'll be happy to criticize him. It's not like I'm a Dwight homer or anything.

HOW THE FCUK YOU KNOW HE HASNT?

you MEDIA FCUKED RETARD

oh the horror
12-09-2011, 02:04 AM
Some of you are flat out unreal. Its like discussing things with cartoon characters.

LA_Showtime
12-09-2011, 02:05 AM
I'm sorry, but since when did Chris Paul "demand" to be traded? All he did was tell the Hornets he wasn't going to resign because they weren't contending for a championship and that he would like to be traded. How is that ANY different from what Dwight Howard has done...? :roll: Some of you guys need to take off your stupid glasses and realize your hate of the Lakers is impairing your judgment.

spiegel
12-09-2011, 02:05 AM
HOW THE FCUK YOU KNOW HE HASNT?

you MEDIA FCUKED RETARD
Reading you're stupid posts and this shows how childish you are. Growup you dumbass.

DMV2
12-09-2011, 02:05 AM
I hope the Nets do get him, just as a reason to convince Deron to stay. Jazz got plenty for him, it'd suck to see the Nets lose him for nothing.
Same here. I really hope the trade works out for both teams.

NYC, Prokhorov's money and commitment, biggest media market city in the World , etc..so many good reasons for Deron to stay and Dwight to come on board.

Kobe 4 The Win
12-09-2011, 02:07 AM
Agreed.

It's going to take a while before Laker fans (predominantly) get over the CP3 debacle

Get over it? I'm happy. That was a bad deal for us. What I'm worried about is Pau and Lamar's mental state after this shit. Will it affect their play?. I still think it's not over.

PyrrhusX
12-09-2011, 02:09 AM
Get over it? I'm happy. That was a bad deal for us. What I'm worried about is Pau and Lamar's mental state after this shit. Will it affect their play?. I still think it's not over.

Well I agree.
Assuming Laker's take their current roster and that the above two are of no concern in mental state, the Laker's have a very solid rosterr.

Timmy D for MVP
12-09-2011, 02:10 AM
This actually makes a ton of sense. I would enjoy seeing this happen. The Brooklyn Nets get to kick it off with Dwight and Williams when they get there? Seems like a dream scenario all around.

GatorKid117
12-09-2011, 02:11 AM
Brook Lopez, bleh.... Can you say NBA's worst defensive team?

Wish it were the Clipps as the front runner.

LA_Showtime
12-09-2011, 02:11 AM
Get over it? I'm happy. That was a bad deal for us. What I'm worried about is Pau and Lamar's mental state after this shit. Will it affect their play?. I still think it's not over.

That's what some of you don't understand (mainly the select few of you who have a few screws loose in the head). This is a much bigger issue than just Lakers/Rockets/Hornets.

UK-NJ
12-09-2011, 02:11 AM
Still don't think it's gonna happen.. Nothing this good ever happens to the Nets. :lol

We'll strike out, have a poor regular season & Deron will bolt to Dallas. Not gonna believe it til it's 100% confirmed & I see Dwight pulling on a Nets jersey.

NuggetsFan
12-09-2011, 02:11 AM
I don't think it's the same as the CP3 situation. I think were all stupid for not realizing how difficult it was going to be for the Hornets to move Chris Paul. I kinda had it in the back of my head like what if but never actually put it into play when thinking where he'd end up.

The NBA owns the Hornets. Makes shit ridiculously complicated. Wouldn't have been blocked if the Hornets had an owner. Simple as that. Didn't block the Pau trade. I think if it was ANY big named team this would have happened. Any team with a piece like Kobe on it. NY, Miami etc. Doubt it would have happened if Paul wanted to go to Milwaukee witch is a shitty double standard but a reality. Can't let Paul demand where he wants to go be traded when it's a contender when the NBA owns the team. Esp when the deal your getting back is making the Hornets pay MORE money and not really improve to a significant level.

Howard's situation is completely different. He can demand whatever he'd like and it's up to the Magic owner. Chris Paul can't because clearly that temp GM doesn't have the power to give the final say on things.

beeazy
12-09-2011, 02:13 AM
Still don't think it's gonna happen.. Nothing this good ever happens to the Nets. :lol

We'll strike out, have a poor regular season & Deron will bolt to Dallas. Not gonna believe it til it's 100% confirmed & I see Dwight pulling on a Nets jersey.

You sir are a true Net fan, always a cynic until something is concrete :)

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 02:13 AM
That's what some of you don't understand (mainly the select few of you who have a few screws loose in the head). This is a much bigger issue than just Lakers/Rockets/Hornets.

I'm sorry what's the issue? That Lamar has a bigger vajajay than Khloe?

Kobe Bryant straight up is on Youtube saying "trade his ass" about Bynum a few years ago ... did Bynum cry about it?

This is a business, you have a job to do and you get paid a lot of money to do it. Suck it up you two princesses. Trades fall through in the NBA all the time.

Allstar24
12-09-2011, 02:14 AM
It is not the same as the CP3 situation because it is not the LAKERS, we're talking about the lowly Nets. It is apparently the Lakers fault for working their butts off to win multiple championships. It is okay for Stern to screw with them because they are not a shitty team like the Nets. So many hypocritical losers...not a word y'all say will ever have credibility again.

oh the horror
12-09-2011, 02:15 AM
I'm sorry what's the issue? That Lamar has a bigger vajajay than Khloe?

Kobe Bryant straight up is on Youtube saying "trade his ass" about Bynum a few years ago ... did Bynum cry about it?

This is a business, you have a job to do and you get paid a lot of money to do it. Suck it up you two princesses. Trades fall through in the NBA all the time.



Its one thing for us to all sit around and talk about it, but the reality is....we all watched Pau Gasol get sensitive during the playoffs last year, and play horribly. And Lamar? Dude practically damn near cried in an interview today with Stephen A....


The reality is, things like this do hurt chemistry. And that is something NO fan wants to see happen to their teams.

PyrrhusX
12-09-2011, 02:16 AM
I don't think it's the same as the CP3 situation. I think were all stupid for not realizing how difficult it was going to be for the Hornets to move Chris Paul. I kinda had it in the back of my head like what if but never actually put it into play when thinking where he'd end up.

The NBA owns the Hornets. Makes shit ridiculously complicated. Wouldn't have been blocked if the Hornets had an owner. Simple as that. Didn't block the Pau trade. I think if it was ANY big named team this would have happened. Any team with a piece like Kobe on it. NY, Miami etc. Doubt it would have happened if Paul wanted to go to Milwaukee witch is a shitty double standard but a reality. Can't let Paul demand where he wants to go be traded when it's a contender when the NBA owns the team. Esp when the deal your getting back is making the Hornets pay MORE money and not really improve to a significant level.

Howard's situation is completely different. He can demand whatever he'd like and it's up to the Magic owner. Chris Paul can't because clearly that temp GM doesn't have the power to give the final say on things.

Exactly.
Its unfortunate, but its reality.

ZHAKIDD532
12-09-2011, 02:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQZlXWU0aO0

I'M GONNA CRY I'M SO HAPPY, PLEASE LET THIS HAPPEN!

oh the horror
12-09-2011, 02:17 AM
Everyone seems relaxed, and calm.


How the sh*t will hit the fan, and everyone will be enraged again if Dwight turns up on the Lakers.

Basically a league cannot run this way, but everyone excepts it when the Lakers are the ones that get sh*tted on.


HIL-AR-IOUS.

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 02:19 AM
Exactly.
Its unfortunate, but its reality.

What's so unfortunate about it? Let someone else contend for a title for a few friggin' years.

It's not like the offer the Lakers made was that great, odds are New Orleans wouldn't have any of those players on their roster in 2-3 years time.

Martin is overrated big time, Odom would bolt the first chance he gets.

Get some legit young players that you can actually build something around, I'm sure the Clippers would oblige. If not, Danny Ainge is a gambler, he'd probably ship Rondo, who is a much better player to work with going forward than all this salary junk the Hornets were getting.

NuggetsFan
12-09-2011, 02:19 AM
It is not the same as the CP3 situation because it is not the LAKERS, we're talking about the lowly Nets. It is apparently the Lakers fault for working their butts off to win multiple championships. It is okay for Stern to screw with them because they are not a shitty team like the Nets. So many hypocritical losers...not a word y'all say will ever have credibility again.

What don't you understand? The NBA owns the Hornets. It makes shit reaaaal complicated obviously. Something everybody seemed to forget when talking about where Paul was going to end up. NBA didn't cancel the Pau trade? Didn't stop the Heat from ganging up. Let's not pretend the NBA is out to get the Lakers, because that's downright silly. Just found themselves the winners of a shitty situation and got screwed.

Howard can go anywhere he wants, demand it. Be it NJ, L.A, NY and the NBA can't do shit because there not the owners. Seriously the NBA couldn't have done what they just did to ANY team with Howard.

Chris Paul is going to be like free agency. The NBA will dictate who can do what and when.

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 02:21 AM
I think even Dwight knows he can't demand a trade to the Lakers because he knows damn well that Rich DeVos will have nothing to do with sending another big man star to the Lakers after Shaq.

The Lakers made life long enemies there with alleged tampering in acquiring/courting O'Neal in 1996.

PyrrhusX
12-09-2011, 02:24 AM
What's so unfortunate about it? Let someone else contend for a title for a few friggin' years.

It's not like the offer the Lakers made was that great, odds are New Orleans wouldn't have any of those players on their roster in 2-3 years time.

Martin is overrated big time, Odom would bolt the first chance he gets.

Get some legit young players that you can actually build something around, I'm sure the Clippers would oblige. If not, Danny Ainge is a gambler, he'd probably ship Rondo, who is a much better player to work with going forward than all this salary junk the Hornets were getting.

Im not a lakers fan (ThunderUp), but the reality was that if the NBA did not own the Hornets, CP3 would be a Laker, no matter how good/bad the trade was.

Hence unfortuate for them :P

oh the horror
12-09-2011, 02:24 AM
What's so unfortunate about it? Let someone else contend for a title for a few friggin' years.





WTF are you 12 years old dude? This isnt a pickup game at the local park bro, where we "let people win because they arent good enough"


This is a god damn business. And the business is TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES, AND CHAMPIONSHIPS. The more you put into it as owners, the MORE you get out of it.

Wtf so ANY franchise that wins a lot should step aside, and "let someone else contend for a few friggin years?"



Come on now.


"lolz We've been hoggin them rings...you take your turn now"

NuggetsFan
12-09-2011, 02:25 AM
Honestly what if the Lakers won the championship this year with Chris Paul, and afterwards it came out a team like Washington was offering John Wall + 1st round pick for an unextended Chris Paul? Or Indy was offering Paul George\tons of money savings for the team? But the Hornets decided to go with Odom, Kevin Martin etc. The whole world would talk about how an NBA own team made an extremely subjective choice that completely changed the history of the NBA.

Still don't think Chris Paul to L.A is dead. Think they'll wait a little longer, training camp hasn't even started and there trading him? Why not wait a few weeks into the season. His value is still there. Maybe NO wins some games, surprises people and Paul stays? Similar to what Denver tried to do with Melo. You have until the deadline before he walks for nothing. Why not see what your best value is for both sides? It's what any other NBA team would do. See what's out there, wait a few teams out and maybe increase his value for a team looking to take a risk.

Things like that is what makes the Howard situation 10x different from the Paul one and why Howard landing in NJ won't get vetoed. That's on the Magic owner ... a stupid owner. Owners give out max contracts to Joe Johnson, Chandler etc. Chris Paul's situation reflects the NBA as a whole, not one owner.

stallionaire
12-09-2011, 02:25 AM
My roommate is a huge Lakers fan. This is one of the best days in recent memory.

monkeypox
12-09-2011, 02:25 AM
Agreed.

What is so hard to understand in this scenario?
NBA does not own the Magic.
It's going to take a while before Laker fans (predominantly) get over the CP3 debacle, but there is a different situation in Orlando when compared to New Orleans.

what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?

Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.

ZHAKIDD532
12-09-2011, 02:27 AM
In all seriousness, this would be great for the league. Going into Brooklyn, having 2 real stars playing with one another would be amazing. And Deron Williams has already said publicly if the Nets get Dwight Howard he will definitely stay. With the money Prokhorov has, 2 superstars that compliment each other so perfectly, a new billion dollar arena, this could be incredible.

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 02:27 AM
WTF are you 12 years old dude? This isnt a pickup game at the local park bro, where we "let people win because they arent good enough"


This is a god damn business. And the business is TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES, AND CHAMPIONSHIPS. The more you put into it as owners, the MORE you get out of it.

Wtf so ANY franchise that wins a lot should step aside, and "let someone else contend for a few friggin years?"



Come on now.


"lolz We've been hoggin them rings...you take your turn now"

If it's a business, then the owners should just said "hell no" to this deal. And good on them. They just lost 1/3 of a season in revenue to go back into a season where basically only two teams (the Lakers and Heat) have a real shot at the title for the next 4-5 years? Yeah I'd be pissed as an owner too.

Nixed deals happen all the time to a lot of deals in the NBA, most of the time, fans don't know about it.

Business is business, right? So deal with it.

Lakers can go build a good team like most everyone else (through the draft and years of proper development) instead of trying to get bailed out by desperate teams that have to give away their All-Stars.

Kingwillball
12-09-2011, 02:28 AM
In all seriousness, this would be great for the league. Going into Brooklyn, having 2 real stars playing with one another would be amazing. And Deron Williams has already said publicly if the Nets get Dwight Howard he will definitely stay. With the money Prokhorov has, 2 superstars that compliment each other so perfectly, a new billion dollar arena, this could be incredible.


This Makes sense on alot of Levels

themurph
12-09-2011, 02:29 AM
what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?

Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.


nah...the owners balked and forced Stern to block the deal...I don't know where u r getting your info from...

NuggetsFan
12-09-2011, 02:30 AM
what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?

Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.

lol if people believe this shit they'll believe anything there told by the media. Stern blocks CP3 to L.A, but not Gasol to L.A? Doesn't block LeBron\Bosh\Wade. Doesn't block all the stupid trades that have happened over the years. Just this one. L.A has had tremendous luck over the years(like come the Sac-Town series??) and is one of the best if not the BEST market\franchise out there. What does he gain? What does the NBA gain by doing this. Nothing. Stern if he wanted to could probably change the landscape of the NBA if he truly wanted to. However if you even use a hint of logic than you'd obviously see there's NOTHING to gain by doing what he did today.

However using logic it'd make a ridiculous amount of sense that the NBA owning the Hornets completely changed the landscape of how it's going to go down.

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 02:31 AM
nah...the owners balked and forced Stern to block the deal...I don't know where u r getting your info from...
league released a statement saying otherwise

oh the horror
12-09-2011, 02:31 AM
In all seriousness, this would be great for the league. Going into Brooklyn, having 2 real stars playing with one another would be amazing. And Deron Williams has already said publicly if the Nets get Dwight Howard he will definitely stay. With the money Prokhorov has, 2 superstars that compliment each other so perfectly, a new billion dollar arena, this could be incredible.


I honestly wouldnt mind him on the Nets. I'd love to have them actually be a good squad headed into BK.


I just want a damn jersey that has "BROOKLYN" on it.

Timmy D for MVP
12-09-2011, 02:31 AM
WTF are you 12 years old dude? This isnt a pickup game at the local park bro, where we "let people win because they arent good enough"


This is a god damn business. And the business is TO WIN BASKETBALL GAMES, AND CHAMPIONSHIPS. The more you put into it as owners, the MORE you get out of it.

Wtf so ANY franchise that wins a lot should step aside, and "let someone else contend for a few friggin years?"



Come on now.


"lolz We've been hoggin them rings...you take your turn now"

Nooooo. No sir. You were nearly there:

The business is to make money. Lets never forget that. It often gets lost how much money turns this entire world. Sports are no different.

UK-NJ
12-09-2011, 02:32 AM
You sir are a true Net fan, always a cynic until something is concrete :)
Heh, after braving the 12-70 season, the LeBron sweepstakes, the Melodrama & all that stuff, it makes no sense for me to get overly excited over a rumour. Melo was supposed to be a Net on about 5 separate occasions, so I'm certain this story has a lot more twists & turns on the way tomorrow.

I really, really, really hope it's true, though.

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 02:32 AM
lol if people believe this shit they'll believe anything there told by the media. Stern blocks CP3 to L.A, but not Gasol to L.A? Doesn't block LeBron\Bosh\Wade. Doesn't block all the stupid trades that have happened over the years. Just this one. L.A has had tremendous luck over the years(like come the Sac-Town series??) and is one of the best if not the BEST market\franchise out there. What does he gain? What does the NBA gain by doing this. Nothing. Stern if he wanted to could probably change the landscape of the NBA if he truly wanted to. However if you even use a hint of logic than you'd obviously see there's NOTHING to gain by doing what he did today.

However using logic it'd make a ridiculous amount of sense that the NBA owning the Hornets completely changed the landscape of how it's going to go down.
well in all fairness the nba did release an official statement saying Stern veto'd the trade and the owners had no input whatsoever.

PJR
12-09-2011, 02:32 AM
Dwight. :pimp:

Pave your own legacy. **** the Lakers.

oh the horror
12-09-2011, 02:33 AM
Nooooo. No sir. You were nearly there:

The business is to make money. Lets never forget that. It often gets lost how much money turns this entire world. Sports are no different.



Yes, but either way, the Hornets are screwed dude. Paul either gets traded to another team for pieces....he walks on that team after this season, and NO and the other team are left where?


In the SAME situation as with THIS trade...The difference being, he would have signed with LA. And THAT is where the issue lies here....the owners are TIRED of LA contending.



I mean really.....is any other trade, short of them landing another mega-star going to help the Hornets with their attendance?\


Or, even him walking for absolutely nothing?

ZHAKIDD532
12-09-2011, 02:34 AM
I honestly wouldnt mind him on the Nets. I'd love to have them actually be a good squad headed into BK.


I just want a damn jersey that has "BROOKLYN" on it.
As a Nets fan, the best part for me is that they would be getting 2 stars together who compliment each other so well. They could actually be the best duo in the league in terms overall talent, age, health, and ability to compliment each other. Wade and James are always stepping on each other's toes, getting in each other's way, and diminishing each other's impact just by the nature of their games. They're still awesome, but they'd both be better off paired up with other players. That's completely the opposite of the case with a potential Williams and Howard duo.

PyrrhusX
12-09-2011, 02:37 AM
what's so hard for us to understand? The league came out and said it had nothing to do with ownership! So what can't you understand? The block was made by Stern as the commissioner, not as Stern the owner (which he isn't). So tell me again why it matters that the Hornets are owned by the league if the league comes out and says ownership has nothing to do with it? Get it?

Here again... Stern... blocked.... this... trade... as... commissioner. Something he can do to ANY team if he feels necessary. So following this guideline if he's going to be consistent he MUST block the DH to Nets deal. Get it? Ownership has nothing to do with it.

He needs to be more consistent then.
What happened when Gasol was gifted to the Lakers?
SMH

This is probebly the first time a player was blocked when being traded. The underlying fact being the team is owned by the NBA.

I honestly doubt the NBA/Stern blocks the DH deal. If they did, then it would be intruiging to know their reasons behind blocking the trade.

Kurosawa0
12-09-2011, 02:39 AM
Chris Paul to the Clips, Dwight to the Nets. How cool would it be to have LA and New York rivalries?

NuggetsFan
12-09-2011, 02:40 AM
well in all fairness the nba did release an official statement saying Stern veto'd the trade and the owners had no input whatsoever.

Ya, if I was a commish in charge of a proff business I'd probably say the same exact thing. He can't let the masses know that the owners can completely dictate his choices. He's suppose to be the voice of reason. Anyways that's what I'd assume, just my opinion tho.

However there's not ONE single thing to gain by saying .. nah L.A you can't have Paul. The NBA LOVES it when the Lakers compete. Why not stop Gasol from going to L.A? Would have had less media attention doing so. Paul's a bigger star. Lockout just ended, all eyes on you. Why wait to f*ck over the Lakers now? There's no logical explanation.

Yet if you look at the NBA owning the Hornets? It makes tooo much sense NOT to be true. Seriously like the Hornets dump Paul before the training camp even starts? Why the f*ck wouldn't you wait atleast 15 games until things unfold and you can see where you stand. Maybe you make a playoff run, maybe a team realizes they need to shake shit up. You don't dump your franchise player without careful thought .. esp when the owner of your team is the f*cking NBA.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the deal be tweaked with NO taking less money back, maybe another prospect from a third team(maybe a Budinger?) and Paul still ending up in L.A. It's just going to be a delicate situation and interesting because it's something we've never seen. A top 5 player on a team owned by the league.

Hornets GM bitching explains everything. Dude clearly knows he has no final say in the situation and the NBA is going to decide what happens. Sucks for the Lakers because they won the sweepstakes, isn't a plot against them just a shitty situation.

Nowhere near similar to Howard, who will go wherever he and the Magic owner wants to send him.

B-Easy8
12-09-2011, 02:40 AM
Im sure they could get better than Lopez and 2 firsts. Who wants a C that averages 5 boards a game? Especially right after you had Dwight.

Im sure a lot of teams could offer more than that.

ConanRulesNBC
12-09-2011, 02:40 AM
So if the Nets win championships first do the Knicks fans jump ship?

ConanRulesNBC
12-09-2011, 02:41 AM
Im sure they could get better than Lopez and 2 firsts. Who wants a C that averages 5 boards a game? Especially right after you had Dwight.

Im sure a lot of teams could offer more than that.

Bulls: Noah, Deng and Taj Gibson.

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 02:41 AM
Bulls: Noah, Deng and Taj Gibson.

Orlando should take that package and run.

That is way better than anything anyone else is offering, just wondering if Paxson has the balls to do it.

Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 02:44 AM
So if the Nets win championships first do the Knicks fans jump ship?

Fake ones will, yes. Real ones won't.

Timmy D for MVP
12-09-2011, 02:47 AM
Yes, but either way, the Hornets are screwed dude. Paul either gets traded to another team for pieces....he walks on that team after this season, and NO and the other team are left where?


In the SAME situation as with THIS trade...The difference being, he would have signed with LA. And THAT is where the issue lies here....the owners are TIRED of LA contending.



I mean really.....is any other trade, short of them landing another mega-star going to help the Hornets with their attendance?\


Or, even him walking for absolutely nothing?

My personal take is that they aren't worried about attendance in NO. I think they are resigned to NO being done. I think they are trying to out together a team that will attract the best buyers, who will then move the team elsewhere. And so they feel they're going to need a superstar of some kind. I doubt it'll be Paul unless they already have someone lined up to buy but I think they are going to try to find a marketable player to put in his place.

Again I don't think it has anything to do with them worrying about the team, but a business as a whole.

Kingwillball
12-09-2011, 02:49 AM
Bulls or Nets IMO is where he will End up..

monkeypox
12-09-2011, 03:20 AM
Ya, if I was a commish in charge of a proff business I'd probably say the same exact thing. He can't let the masses know that the owners can completely dictate his choices. He's suppose to be the voice of reason. Anyways that's what I'd assume, just my opinion tho.

However there's not ONE single thing to gain by saying .. nah L.A you can't have Paul. The NBA LOVES it when the Lakers compete. Why not stop Gasol from going to L.A? Would have had less media attention doing so. Paul's a bigger star. Lockout just ended, all eyes on you. Why wait to f*ck over the Lakers now? There's no logical explanation.

Yet if you look at the NBA owning the Hornets? It makes tooo much sense NOT to be true. Seriously like the Hornets dump Paul before the training camp even starts? Why the f*ck wouldn't you wait atleast 15 games until things unfold and you can see where you stand. Maybe you make a playoff run, maybe a team realizes they need to shake shit up. You don't dump your franchise player without careful thought .. esp when the owner of your team is the f*cking NBA.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see the deal be tweaked with NO taking less money back, maybe another prospect from a third team(maybe a Budinger?) and Paul still ending up in L.A. It's just going to be a delicate situation and interesting because it's something we've never seen. A top 5 player on a team owned by the league.

Hornets GM bitching explains everything. Dude clearly knows he has no final say in the situation and the NBA is going to decide what happens. Sucks for the Lakers because they won the sweepstakes, isn't a plot against them just a shitty situation.

Nowhere near similar to Howard, who will go wherever he and the Magic owner wants to send him.

Look, I'm not saying the crybabies had nothing to do with it. But if you're going to come out and say you did it for basketball reasons, then you need to keep to that. If it's going to be about who cries the loudest, then just cop to that and enforce it that way. Either way, functionally what Stern did could have been done whether the NBA owned the team or not right? All the ownership situation did was add some fuel to the fire. So again, why is it so important that the league owns the Hornets when this all could have still happened if the League didn't own the hornets?

xoneatom
12-09-2011, 03:24 AM
inb4 Stern
:roll:

R.I.P.
12-09-2011, 03:27 AM
Year of listening to offers for Dwight and losing him for nothing in summer 2012.

or

Trading him away for nothing right now...sorry Brook Lopez right now.

Besides MAYBE not the best idea to DEMAND a trade to a specific team, cause that commish does not likey player tampering these days. :lol

Nets fan 93
12-09-2011, 03:29 AM
Im sure they could get better than Lopez and 2 firsts. Who wants a C that averages 5 boards a game? Especially right after you had Dwight.

Im sure a lot of teams could offer more than that.
Brook is extremely underrated. how many 7 foot centers average 20ppg?

Zedja
12-09-2011, 03:34 AM
Bynum>Lopez

Nets fan 93
12-09-2011, 03:43 AM
Heh, after braving the 12-70 season, the LeBron sweepstakes, the Melodrama & all that stuff, it makes no sense for me to get overly excited over a rumour. Melo was supposed to be a Net on about 5 separate occasions, so I'm certain this story has a lot more twists & turns on the way tomorrow.
Melo was never rumored to want trade to NJ. Dwight is rumored to want to be traded to NJ. It's different this time around. I agree though. I'll believe it when I see it.

outbreak
12-09-2011, 03:46 AM
Nets don't have the best offer by far, but i'd rather what they have then no knees Bynum. Last rumour i heard was Orlando won't be trading him before the trade deadline mid season though, he had a meeting with management and gave ashort list of players he wants them to go after and commited for this season. Broussard is also probably the single worst person i've ever seen regarding terrible rumours from his supposed sources...

Kurosawa0
12-09-2011, 03:46 AM
Bynum>Lopez

At this point are teams, players and agents really going to risk going down the road with the Lakers?

B-Easy8
12-09-2011, 03:47 AM
Brook is extremely underrated. how many 7 foot centers average 20ppg?

He is 7 foot tall, plays 35 minutes per game and averages 6 boards a game. Didn't his coach call him out about it also?

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 03:48 AM
Bynum>Lopez

Factoring that Bynum has the knees of a 40-year-old ... it's pretty close to a wash.

Noah + Deng + Gibson is a way, way, waaaaaay better deal.

blacknapalm
12-09-2011, 03:49 AM
He is 7 foot tall, plays 35 minutes per game and averages 6 boards a game. Didn't his coach call him out about it also?

he also doesn't defend other 5's very good. sure, he's good offensively but he's far from a complete player. that said, he's still a top 5 center which should tell you how weak the position is

UK-NJ
12-09-2011, 03:49 AM
Melo was never rumored to want trade to NJ. Dwight is rumored to want to be traded to NJ. It's different this time around. I agree though. I'll believe it when I see it.
He's said on numerous occasions that he'd have been OK with NJ being his final destination. He actually thought he was heading to NJ a few days before he was traded to the Knicks, if I remember right? The Nuggets front office just played a few too many games with us in the end.

Granted, Carmelo never said 'I want the Nets' outright, but neither has Dwight. All we have is rumour & conjecture. I would bet you anything that it'll be a topsy turvy ride before we end up at any concrete resolution to the story. Not gonna get too excited.

DirtySanchez
12-09-2011, 03:50 AM
Stern rejects rumor of trade!

hotsizzle
12-09-2011, 03:51 AM
Smokescreen for Howard to LA

PJR
12-09-2011, 03:52 AM
Stern rejects rumor of trade!

For basketball reasons! :oldlol:

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 03:53 AM
Smokescreen for Howard to LA

Clippers.

Nets fan 93
12-09-2011, 03:54 AM
He's said on numerous occasions that he'd have been OK with NJ being his final destination. He actually thought he was heading to NJ a few days before he was traded to the Knicks, if I remember right? The Nuggets front office just played a few too many games with us in the end.

Granted, Carmelo never said 'I want the Nets' outright, but neither has Dwight. All we have is rumour & conjecture. I would bet you anything that it'll be a topsy turvy ride before we end up at any concrete resolution to the story. Not gonna get too excited.
You got a point. The Nets plan b is nene though. I'm fine with that.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-09-2011, 03:57 AM
Believe this: Lakers will end up getting CP3 and D12....

Kingwillball
12-09-2011, 03:57 AM
Here is another Recent Article in the last hr Posted from Orlando Concerning D12 to NEts.. Definitely smoke to this story..

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/os-dwight-howard-nets-trade-1210-20111209,0,6501620.story

Nets fan 93
12-09-2011, 03:57 AM
Believe this: Lakers will end up getting CP3 and D12....
They don't have either right now.

UK-NJ
12-09-2011, 03:59 AM
You got a point. The Nets plan b is nene though. I'm fine with that.
See, I'm not overly keen on Nene. I don't like the idea of us handing a near max deal for a player with an iffy knee, a history of cancer & whose best year was only 14/8. Yeah, he posted those numbers at a very high efficiency, but is his impact on a team really worthy of such a gaudy contract? I don't think so. It's Dwight or bust for me.

R.I.P.
12-09-2011, 03:59 AM
That

blacknapalm
12-09-2011, 04:01 AM
nene/lopez...who plays the 5? can lopez guard 4's easier?

Nets fan 93
12-09-2011, 04:01 AM
See, I'm not overly keen on Nene. I don't like the idea of us handing a near max deal for a player with an iffy knee, a history of cancer & whose best year was only 14/8. Yeah, he posted those numbers at a very high efficiency, but is his impact on a team really worthy of such a gaudy contract? I don't think so. It's Dwight or bust for me.

If it Keeps Deron. I am satisfied.

Nets fan 93
12-09-2011, 04:04 AM
nene/lopez...who plays the 5? can lopez guard 4's easier?
Nene played four next to camby on occasion back in his Denver days.

Kobe 4 The Win
12-09-2011, 04:04 AM
This is just nonsense to throw Stern and the other douchbag owners off his trail so they will allow the CP3 deal. After that deal is signed Dwight will say "sike" and demand to go to LA for Andrew Bynum and a box of teddy grahams.

blacknapalm
12-09-2011, 04:05 AM
Nene played four next to camby on occasion back in his Denver days.

yep, i know he has more experience. i'm just trying to gauge whether or not lopez can move to the 4 and adjust and even play defense better against 4's. i think 4's might be too quick for him so it might not be a good idea. so i guess nene plays 4 and you keep lopez at 5 in that case...

UK-NJ
12-09-2011, 04:05 AM
If it Keeps Deron. I am satisfied.
I guess so. I just don't buy into the hype that we need to waste our cap on players who aren't worth their contracts just to appease Deron. He isn't daft; he knows that a guy like Nene isn't going to make the difference. Deron wants a championship, not mid seed playoff mediocrity. He had that with the Jazz. I honestly don't think signing Nene would increase our chances of retaining Deron by that big of a margin.

I just hope this doesn't drag on like the Melo shit last year. I want it resolved in the next couple days. I can't take another Melodrama. :lol

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 04:07 AM
This is just nonsense to throw Stern and the other douchbag owners off his trail so they will allow the CP3 deal. After that deal is signed Dwight will say "sike" and demand to go to LA for Andrew Bynum and a box of teddy grahams.

Yup. This will happen right after Mitch kills Doc Brown, steals the DeLorean and goes *back* to 1985, trades for a rookie Michael Jordan.

Resulting Lakers lineup is

C- Dwight
PF- Gasol (re-signed by the Lakers after he is released by Houston just cuz)
SF- Kobe
SG- Jordan
PG- Paul

SidePocket
12-09-2011, 05:26 AM
As a Nets fan, this would be seriously amazing. As a few others have said though, just considering what us NJ fans have gone through over the past half decade, I'll believe it when I see it. I got my hopes up for LeBron and the "Summer of 2010" during the start of our little rebuilding period, endured a painful 70-loss season, all that Melo shit, among countless other letdowns in recent times. Needless to say, I agree with those who won't even crack a smile until we actually see D12 suit up as a Net.

...Okay, well I lied. I did actually crack a smile at the thought of closing out our time in Jersey with arguably the best duo in the NBA in terms of playing off of each other's games, and starting our Brooklyn tenure off with a bang. If we could pull this off for Brook and picks, I consider that trade (for us) to be on par with Marbury/Kidd, if not better.

I salivate at the thought of having the best center in the game, along with a top 3 PG. Timing couldn't be more perfect for this move for us. I think the Nets have done an incredible job of making D-Will feel wanted here, and Proky & company haven't been shy about letting fans and players know that they'll do anything to build this team into a contender ASAP, and that's something I'm sure Howard respects.

So again, I'm prepared for another letdown like the past few years, because that just comes with the territory of Nets fanhood. :lol Crossing my fingers though!

hawkfan
12-09-2011, 05:27 AM
Al Horford > Brook Lopez

Al Horford and Kirk Hinrich and a first round pick for Dwight Howard.

Fatal9
12-09-2011, 05:38 AM
This would be awesome. I'll take anything that creates a new contender.

hawkfan
12-09-2011, 05:46 AM
Al Horford and Kirk Hinrich and a first round pick for Dwight Howard.

hawkfan Trade Scenario:

Atlanta gets

Jameer Nelson
Dwight Howard (expirer)
Chris Duhon

Orlando gets

Al Horford
Jeff Teague
Kirk Hinrich (expirer)
Marvin Williams (throw in to make contracts match)

UK-NJ
12-09-2011, 05:51 AM
As a Nets fan, this would be seriously amazing. As a few others have said though, just considering what us NJ fans have gone through over the past half decade, I'll believe it when I see it. I got my hopes up for LeBron and the "Summer of 2010" during the start of our little rebuilding period, endured a painful 70-loss season, all that Melo shit, among countless other letdowns in recent times. Needless to say, I agree with those who won't even crack a smile until we actually see D12 suit up as a Net.

...Okay, well I lied. I did actually crack a smile at the thought of closing out our time in Jersey with arguably the best duo in the NBA in terms of playing off of each other's games, and starting our Brooklyn tenure off with a bang. If we could pull this off for Brook and picks, I consider that trade (for us) to be on par with Marbury/Kidd, if not better.

I salivate at the thought of having the best center in the game, along with a top 3 PG. Timing couldn't be more perfect for this move for us. I think the Nets have done an incredible job of making D-Will feel wanted here, and Proky & company haven't been shy about letting fans and players know that they'll do anything to build this team into a contender ASAP, and that's something I'm sure Howard respects.

So again, I'm prepared for another letdown like the past few years, because that just comes with the territory of Nets fanhood. :lol Crossing my fingers though!

Welcome aboard ISH! I was starting to feel like the only pessimistic Nets fan frequenting these boards. :lol

Anyway, I co-sign every point you just made. Who needs the excitement of play-off basketball when you can have the off-season/trade deadline drama the Nets every year? :oldlol:

lock
12-09-2011, 05:53 AM
I'll believe it when I see it, this could just be misinformation leaked to the media to drive other trade negotiations along.

/edit - However, like someone else said - whatever makes another contender is good in my books.

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 06:02 AM
I'll believe it when I see it, this could just be misinformation leaked to the media to drive other trade negotiations along.

/edit - However, like someone else said - whatever makes another contender is good in my books.

I'm not really sure though, if this was ploy by the Magic to drive up market value, Dwight could easily shoot it down on Twitter by saying he's made no such statement or something.

But I understand from the POV of a Nets fan not wanting to get too excited.

hawkfan
12-09-2011, 06:12 AM
The Nets could have had Lopez, Favors, Kanter.

That's a championship team for the next decade.

tomtucker
12-09-2011, 06:20 AM
why the heck does he wanna go there :confusedshrug:

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 06:28 AM
why the heck does he wanna go there :confusedshrug:

Rich owner, new arena, Brooklyn, New Yawk New Yawk concrete jungle where dreams are made of, Jay Z, plus Deron Williams is a very good no.2 option that can legitimately work with Dwight in creating a credible contender.

There's a certain appeal there.

Fatal9
12-09-2011, 06:36 AM
Can Nets amnesty Hedo after the trade?

SidePocket
12-09-2011, 06:37 AM
Welcome aboard ISH! I was starting to feel like the only pessimistic Nets fan frequenting these boards. :lol

Anyway, I co-sign every point you just made. Who needs the excitement of play-off basketball when you can have the off-season/trade deadline drama the Nets every year? :oldlol:

Thanks :D And yeah, exactly! And no need to have seasons of .500 or better, LA and Miami wish they could experience the entertainment provided by our boys Petro and Graham. :oldlol:

If we do pull this off, taking on Turkoglu's albatross contract might actually not be as bad as some fans expect, since that seems to be a likely possibility. Maybe he could catch lightning in a bottle and be a decent role player for us, like he has proven he can be in the past (plus he's only 32). Would be nice to see him return to the Hedo of a few years back, but anything better than what Troy Murphy gave us would be an improvement. :lol I'd love to amnesty Outlaw, quite frankly...although I can't imagine he repeats that terrible performance from last season.

Fatal9
12-09-2011, 06:45 AM
I wanted to see a lineup of

Deron
Morrow
Kirilenko
Humphries
Dwight

Won't happen with Hedo's contract being taken on. And I'm still facepalming over the stupid move they made to get Outlaw last year (spending money just to show fans they got someone over the summer)...the guy is the most anti-winning player I've seen in a while.

brownmamba00
12-09-2011, 06:48 AM
Can Nets amnesty Hedo after the trade?
No, only deals b4 the lockout can be amnestied.

Fatal9
12-09-2011, 06:53 AM
No, only deals b4 the lockout can be amnestied.
Hedo's contract was signed before the lockout though

brownmamba00
12-09-2011, 06:56 AM
Hedo's contract was signed before the lockout though
True, but the trade is not. Only the Magic have rights to amnesty Hedo.

(correct me if i'm wrong tho)

R.I.P.
12-09-2011, 06:59 AM
Can

Unforgiven
12-09-2011, 07:20 AM
Would love to see this. I'm a big D-Will fan, and will be great to see a quality pg and centre teamed up.

Says a lot about their character also, wanting to build something together, creating a history.

icewill36
12-09-2011, 07:24 AM
i hope this happens too, rather than d12 to LA

best PG and best C on one team, but weaknesses through 2 3 4...

some interesting battles between NY, NJ, BOS, CHI, and MIA

D12"Magic"
12-09-2011, 07:31 AM
where are all the haters? LETS GO. This is the reason the Nets have been quiet!!!!!!!!:cheers: :rockon:
I still dont get why people took us out of the equation oh well. :cheers: :cheers:

blacknapalm
12-09-2011, 07:39 AM
if dwight names NJ his #1 choice, is that not 'dictating' where he goes? lol @ stern's double standards

D12"Magic"
12-09-2011, 07:40 AM
if dwight names NJ his #1 choice, is that not 'dictating' where he goes? lol @ stern's double standards

secondly, if howard falls thru, how do nets fans feel about giving up lopez + 2 1st round picks for nene? that is supposedly plan B.
Thats not happening.

blacknapalm
12-09-2011, 07:41 AM
Thats not happening.

ya, realized it made no sense. that's the trade on the table for d12

D12"Magic"
12-09-2011, 07:42 AM
ya, realized it made no sense. that's the trade on the table for d12
Its cool.

bluechox2
12-09-2011, 08:36 AM
u can just sign nene outright or west

Nash
12-09-2011, 08:51 AM
Whats up wit it, Vanilla face?

longtime lurker
12-09-2011, 08:55 AM
How is the Nets offer any better than what the Lakers are offering? Yet I'm reading people post "I like this" and "this is what should happen". I swear the majority of basketball fans are idiots

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 08:56 AM
How is the Nets offer any better than what the Lakers are offering? Yet I'm reading people post "I like this" and "this is what should happen". I swear the majority of basketball fans are idiots

The best offers by far are honestly the Clippers one and the Bulls one.

I.R.Beast
12-09-2011, 09:00 AM
inb4 Stern

stern will veto trade because the nets will aren't supposed to be good.

brownmamba00
12-09-2011, 09:09 AM
stern will veto trade because the nets will aren't supposed to be good.
yeah he'll probably end up in Miami for the mini MLE smh

longtime lurker
12-09-2011, 09:12 AM
The best offers by far are honestly the Clippers one and the Bulls one.

The best offer doesn't really matter since doesn't want to go there. It seems that people only get their panties in a bunch when a trade involves the Lakers Knicks. Dwight is doing what Chris Paul did and I have no doubt in my mind GMs across the NBA have called orlando and threatened them not to send him to the Lakers. Bitchmade

blacknapalm
12-09-2011, 09:14 AM
The best offer doesn't really matter since doesn't want to go there. It seems that people only get their panties in a bunch when a trade involves the Lakers Knicks. Dwight is doing what Chris Paul did and I have no doubt in my mind GMs across the NBA have called orlando and threatened them not to send him to the Lakers. Bitchmade

are my posts not being read here? lol. good point but i just said that how is dwight saying he wants to go to NJ or saying NJ is a priority not 'dictating' where he goes?

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 09:17 AM
The best offer doesn't really matter since doesn't want to go there. It seems that people only get their panties in a bunch when a trade involves the Lakers Knicks. Dwight is doing what Chris Paul did and I have no doubt in my mind GMs across the NBA have called orlando and threatened them not to send him to the Lakers. Bitchmade

Honestly GMs should call the players bluff on this. They're a bunch of p-ssy divas.

If Dwight gets traded to Chicago, he's not going to leave at the end of the year losing tens of millions of dollars and his Bird rights, on top of the fact that he's not likely to find many players better than Derrick Rose to play with anywhere.

He'll cave at the end of the day and resign for a max contract. By the end of the year you'll hear a lot of "y'know I happen to like Chicago all of the sudden". Gee I wonder why.

The players really don't have the power/leverage they think they do. Not in this new CBA especially.

ZHAKIDD532
12-09-2011, 10:08 AM
Honestly GMs should call the players bluff on this. They're a bunch of p-ssy divas.

If Dwight gets traded to Chicago, he's not going to leave at the end of the year losing tens of millions of dollars and his Bird rights, on top of the fact that he's not likely to find many players better than Derrick Rose to play with anywhere.

He'll cave at the end of the day and resign for a max contract. By the end of the year you'll hear a lot of "y'know I happen to like Chicago all of the sudden". Gee I wonder why.

The players really don't have the power/leverage they think they do. Not in this new CBA especially.
You would think so, but so far that isn't the case. The player can always become an FA and sign where ever he wants, teams risk losing tons of assets if they make the deal and lose the player.

Soundwave
12-09-2011, 10:15 AM
You would think so, but so far that isn't the case. The player can always become an FA and sign where ever he wants, teams risk losing tons of assets if they make the deal and lose the player.

He really can't though. Not anymore.

The "glamour" markets are capped out and hamstrung under new luxury tax fines that are harsh as hell.

So NY/Lakerland/Miami ... that's out unless you are willing to play for peanuts. This is not even like "well you can take 20% less here" like LeBron did with Miami. This is now "you can take our MLE" type of thing.

Meaning basically a player like Dwight is going to have to pick and choose between say Chicago (which would hold his Bird rights if he were dealt there) and teams with a lot of cap room -- the Milwuakees, Minnesotas, Torontos, of the NBA that have a ton of cap room.

That's actually the reality of the new NBA.