View Full Version : Broussard: Howard Deal "Very close"
CryinInTheCar
12-09-2011, 10:26 AM
In an interview on ESPN Radio's Mike and Mike Friday morning, Chris Broussard said the Nets and Magic are already working on a trade that would send Dwight Howard to the Nets and that a deal is "very close to happening".
Broussard who broke news of Howard's intentions, said the deal, as he understands it, would be Howard for Brook Lopez and two first round draft choices, presumably the Nets two picks in 2012: their own' first round pick and the Rockets lottery-protected pick obtained in the Terrence Williams trade a year ago. Whether other players would be included remains uncertain.
:bowdown: :bowdown:
I am ecstatic right now. Go Nets!
juju151111
12-09-2011, 10:29 AM
In4stern
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 10:30 AM
http://speaktoall.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/jay-z.jpg
MaxFly
12-09-2011, 10:35 AM
Lol, I don't see how this is a good trade for Orlando...
bagelred
12-09-2011, 10:35 AM
Wow. The Lakers are getting royally screwed. They have better talent to give Magic for Howard.
Lopez and two first rounders? Not enough.
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 10:37 AM
Well the Lakers might get something out of this in that the NBA may allow the Paul deal to go through, if Dwight is ensured of not going anywhere near L.A.
I think that idea was what sent a lot of owners off, the idea that the owners were being asked to be pawns in some kind of Laker master plan to get CP3 + Dwight pissed a lot of people off.
Clutch
12-09-2011, 10:37 AM
4 hours and 23 minutes left until the players can officially sign with teams.
Can't wait.
RapsFan
12-09-2011, 10:37 AM
I disagree. Who is better between Lopez and Bynum? Toss up maybe given Bynum's durability. Better picks from the Nets and they can absorb a bad deal like Hedo's as well.
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 10:38 AM
Lol, I don't see how this is a good trade for Orlando...
There are no good deals for Orlando if they trade Dwight, except getting Lebron or Rose in return.
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 10:40 AM
There are no good deals for Orlando if they trade Dwight, except getting Lebron or Rose in return.
They could probably ask for Bosh, but the meltdowns would be eppppppppppppic.
dbugz
12-09-2011, 10:43 AM
Here we go again.. :oldlol:
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 10:44 AM
I hope it gets done quick so everyone else can just move f0ck on.
InspiredLebowski
12-09-2011, 10:44 AM
Nets better at least take one of Orlando's other shit contracts. Either way, takes em outta the PF market, which is cool with me.
So what happened to Howard wanting to go to the Lakers? Did he nix that after everything that went down with CP3? Cause I can't imagine him thinking this is a better situation and I also can't imagine the Lakers making that CP3 trade giving up all those big men without knowing Howard was coming. I could see him not wanting to go to the Lakers without CP3 because its an old team then and he wouldn't have a PG. I think he really wants to play with an elite PG. He'd always complain in Orlando that he didn't get the ball enough.
bluechox2
12-09-2011, 10:48 AM
stern is lurking
brownmamba00
12-09-2011, 10:50 AM
LMAO 2 picks and Brook Lopez for Dwight?
How is Bynum+fillers for Dwight+Arenas/Hedo not better?
32Dayz
12-09-2011, 10:50 AM
Hope it happens only so he cant go to LA.
:applause:
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 10:52 AM
LMAO 2 picks and Brook Lopez for Dwight?
How is Bynum+fillers for Dwight+Arenas/Hedo not better?
It might be. Have the Lakers offered that?
LMAO 2 picks and Brook Lopez for Dwight?
How is Bynum+fillers for Dwight+Arenas/Hedo not better?
I'm starting to think after he realized it was going to be hard to play with CP3 because of that whole situation, he probably wants to play with Deron now.
Something thats been overlooked in the Dwight mess is that in Orlando he was constantly complaining about his teammates not getting him the ball enough. That shouldn't be a problem with an elite PG.
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 10:54 AM
It might be. Have the Lakers offered that?
The DeVos family hates the Lakers. More than Dan Gilbert hates the Lakers.
Take a second and then maybe think about that.
Honestly while Bynum may be a better player than Lopez ... he's never proven he can be no.1 option in this league, and he has the knees of a 40-year-old player. Which kinda makes it a wash.
bluechox2
12-09-2011, 10:54 AM
lol nets first get williams on discount, now they get dwight on super discount
i would be dissapointed if stern doesnt coc k block this trade
Miller for 3
12-09-2011, 10:55 AM
Come on Stern, dont let big market teams get away with this. Veto any trades and reroute them to the Pacers
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
D-Wade316
12-09-2011, 10:55 AM
The East is becoming stacked as hell. Heat, Knicks, Bulls, Celtics, and Nets. :eek:
HylianNightmare
12-09-2011, 10:55 AM
**** that
brownmamba00
12-09-2011, 10:56 AM
It might be. Have the Lakers offered that?
'Reports' say they did. But DeVos apparently is still butthurt over what happened with Shaq.
Can't believe teams are going this far as hurting their own team just because they hate the Lakers:oldlol:
airchibundo507
12-09-2011, 10:57 AM
The East is becoming stacked as hell. Heat, Knicks, Bulls, Celtics, and Nets. :eek:
damnit. I thought Melo finally left the loaded conference.
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 10:57 AM
'Reports' say they did. But Otis apparently is still butthurt over what happened with Shaq.
Can't believe teams are going this far as hurting their own team just because they hate the Lakers:oldlol:
It goes well beyond Otis.
The DeVos family wanted a full blown investigation of the Shaq situation. If that investigation had gone through the Lakers likely would've been found guilty of tampering as it was no secret that Shaq's agent was having meetings Laker brass while O'Neal was still a member of the Magic and doing things like setting up movie deals around town.
Shaq is the greatest player to ever don an Orlando jersey and probably would've won a few titles for the Magic had the Lakers not pried him away.
I can understand the bitterness.
This is like if someone took away the love of your life, married her, and then 10 years later showed up at your door wanting to do a business deal.
Oositdwn
12-09-2011, 10:58 AM
Make it happen. This would be funny
brownmamba00
12-09-2011, 11:02 AM
It goes well beyond Otis.
The DeVos family wanted a full blown investigation of the Shaq situation. If that investigation had gone through the Lakers likely would've been found guilty of tampering as it was no secret that Shaq's agent was having meetings Laker brass while O'Neal was still a member of the Magic and doing things like setting up movie deals around town.
Shaq is the greatest player to ever don an Orlando jersey and probably would've won a few titles had the Lakers not pried him away.
Changed my post b4 you could post. But still whether it's Otis or DeVos, it's pathetic that they are willing to hurt their team just because of something that happened years ago.
r15mohd
12-09-2011, 11:05 AM
I don't beleive Stern can do anything regarding this trade, like he did with the Paul trade...so if true, this deal should happen today. And IMO, i prefer Deron Williams at PG over Paul alongside Dwight.
where brooklyn at, where brooklyn at...is all I keep hearing in my head with this, lol
InspiredLebowski
12-09-2011, 11:06 AM
If another team trades away their superstar w/o forcing someone to take one of the terrible deals that they specifically have to try and please that superstar, I'm going to go insane.
I mean really, who the **** is running these teams?
HylianNightmare
12-09-2011, 11:06 AM
the magic would also send hedo to the nets
bluechox2
12-09-2011, 11:06 AM
nets lucky getting players at discount value
UK-NJ
12-09-2011, 11:06 AM
lol nets first get williams on discount, now they get dwight on super discount
i would be dissapointed if stern doesnt coc k block this trade
Pretty sure the only reason Stern got involved with the Paul deal is because the Hornets are technically owned by the team owners until someone invests in them, so Gilbert & co highlighted their concerns regarding the shrinkage in Laker payroll under the deal that Demps put together & Stern nipped it in the bud. He was acting in the interests of Hornets ownership IE the team owners, who all have an equal share in NO until someone invests. That's my understanding, at least. If that is the case then it's very unlikely Stern gets involved again considering the Hornets aren't part of negotiations for Dwight.
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 11:07 AM
Changed my post b4 you could post. But still whether it's Otis or DeVos, it's pathetic that they are willing to hurt their team just because of something that happened years ago.
Well, Dan Gilbert won't be dealing with the Miami Heat for the next 50 years unless he gets Michael Jordan circa 1988 back from them, and Miami didn't really even do anything wrong, lol.
It's not like the Lakers are offering Magic Johnson here anyway, lol.
It's Andrew Bynum vs. Lopez ... ugh. Factoring in Bynum's knee condition, that's basically a wash.
Isn't Bynum's salary like 4-5x more than Lopez too? By getting Lopez, Orlando gets a ton more cap room to add another couple of players.
CryinInTheCar
12-09-2011, 11:07 AM
Update:
Broussard says the trade will be completed today if the Magic are satisfied with the deal..
They are not going to do it today. They are going to wait for teh NO situation to clear up. If they do it today, there is a possibility, ridiculous as this sounds that Stern blocks the trade.
They'll wait 2 days and then do it.
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 11:09 AM
Changed my post b4 you could post. But still whether it's Otis or DeVos, it's pathetic that they are willing to hurt their team just because of something that happened years ago.
It's not like Bynum is an "OMG AWESOME DEAL" either.
Like I said, the only fair deal for Dwight is Lebron, or Rose, or Griffin, or Wall, or some other superstar or future superstar.
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 11:11 AM
They are not going to do it today. They are going to wait for teh NO situation to clear up. If they do it today, there is a possibility, ridiculous as this sounds that Stern blocks the trade.
They'll wait 2 days and then do it.
It's really just up to the Magic.
This is nothing like situation in New Orleans where the other owners have ownership stakes within the NOLA franchise.
If anything maybe the NBA may renege on their position on Paul once it becomes official that the Lakers aren't in the running for Dwight on top of that, as some owners may ease on their anger over that initial trade.
Allstar24
12-09-2011, 11:11 AM
LOL @ Nets...guess Howard is not that bright after all. Have fun never winning championships...which was apparently the reason you wanted to leave in the first place.
32Dayz
12-09-2011, 11:11 AM
Update:
Broussard says the trade will be completed today if the Magic are satisfied with the deal..
:party: :party: :party: :party: :party:
Lebron23
12-09-2011, 11:12 AM
Congratulations to the New Jersey Nets for acquiring Dwight Howard. Deron and Dwight are going to be one of the best duos in the NBA History.
UK-NJ
12-09-2011, 11:12 AM
They are not going to do it today. They are going to wait for teh NO situation to clear up. If they do it today, there is a possibility, ridiculous as this sounds that Stern blocks the trade.
They'll wait 2 days and then do it.
Really? I was under the impression Stern blocked that trade because it interfered with the team owners (IE every owner in the league) best interests. Owners didn't want the Lakers shedding so much guaranteed salary & putting themselves into a position to make a superteam at the expense of the Hornets, whom they all partially own as things stand.
(sorry if my latest posts are a little hazy. Anaesthetic & numb arthritic hands aren't conducive to typing. :lol )
Changed my post b4 you could post. But still whether it's Otis or DeVos, it's pathetic that they are willing to hurt their team just because of something that happened years ago.
Its not like that deal is really good in the first place. Bynum is really not that great of an asset. He's injury prone at a young age playing less minutes then he would as a franchise player, and they might only have him for another 2 years. Whats this filler? Odom and Gasol would've been gone with the CP3 trade going down. They would've been taking on garbage like Artest, Walton, Blake, or Fisher. Might as well just keep Hedo for an extra year and try to get a better deal for him eventually.
Lebron23
12-09-2011, 11:13 AM
:party: :party: :party: :party: :party:
No more Additional Championship Rings. Welcome to the NBA.
:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 11:14 AM
Its not like that deal is really good in the first place. Bynum is really not that great of an asset. He's injury prone at a young age playing less minutes then he would as a franchise player, and they might only have him for another 2 years. Whats this filler? Odom and Gasol would've been gone with the CP3 trade going down. They would've been taking on garbage like Artest, Walton, Blake, or Fisher. Might as well just keep Hedo for an extra year and try to get a better deal for him eventually.
Other thing is Bynum's salary is much, much higher than Lopez' on top of that.
The Magic will have a ton of salary room this year, and then next year can move Hedo for more cap room the following summer.
All Net
12-09-2011, 11:15 AM
Well props to Dwight if it's true that he would rather choose a new legacy instead of following Shaq's route you can't hate on that.
UK-NJ
12-09-2011, 11:16 AM
Congratulations to the New Jersey Nets for acquiring Dwight Howard. Deron and Dwight are going to be one of the best duos in the NBA History.
Don't jinx it! :lol I'm already having a hard enough time believing any of this is even possible.
brownmamba00
12-09-2011, 11:18 AM
Isn't Bynum's salary like 4-5x more than Lopez too? By getting Lopez, Orlando gets a ton more cap room to add another couple of players.
Lakers were willing to take on Arenas or Hedo's horrible contract tho.
Yes Bynum's contract is bigger but he only has 1 year left on his contract with a team option.
But whatevs, Howard-Deron would still be force to be reckoned with in the east.
HylianNightmare
12-09-2011, 11:18 AM
Other thing is Bynum's salary is much, much higher than Lopez' on top of that.
The Magic will have a ton of salary room this year, and then next year can move Hedo for more cap room the following summer.
i read hedo also gets moved
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 11:20 AM
i read hedo also gets moved
I think it may be better to hang onto him. Having cap "bubbles" pop year after year may actually be a good thing for Orlando.
This year they're going to have a ton of cap room with Dwight off the books for Lopez (provided they do this deal) and the amnesty of Arenas.
Then the following summer they can be big players again that year in the UFA market when Hedo's deal is coming up.
r15mohd
12-09-2011, 11:22 AM
LOL @ Nets...guess Howard is not that bright after all. Have fun never winning championships...which was apparently the reason you wanted to leave in the first place.
and you know they wont win a ring because? they have solid pieces to do so, let's see how they fill out the rest of the team before 'assuming'
32Dayz
12-09-2011, 11:22 AM
Smart of Howard if you actually think about it to try and team with the younger Williams.
Nets franchise is not the Lakers but they have a rich owner and they are in a big market.
Williams is 25-26 same age as Howard so they will have many years together to try and build a dynasty while Kobe is on his very last legs and could probably only give Howards maybe 1 or 2 good years.
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 11:22 AM
and you know they wont win a ring because? they have solid pieces to do so, let's see how they fill out the rest of the team before 'assuming'
Obviously you can only win a title if you accept a deal to the Lakers. I think that was his point :oldlol:
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 11:23 AM
LOL @ Nets...guess Howard is not that bright after all. Have fun never winning championships...which was apparently the reason you wanted to leave in the first place.
Playing with Deron Williams gives him his best opportunity to win a championship that he has ever had.
All Net
12-09-2011, 11:24 AM
I dunno Deron/Dwight is a great duo they just need to keep adding pieces and they will have some good battles with Miami.
Think long term they have a higher window than this Lakers team does with no Paul.
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 11:24 AM
Smart of Howard if you actually think about it to try and team with the younger Williams.
Nets franchise is not the Lakers but they have a rich owner and they are in a big Market.
Williams is 25-26 same age as Howard so they will have many years together to try and build a dynasty while Kobe is on his very last legs and could probably only give Howards maybe 1 or 2 good years.
I'm surprised more players don't actually realize this.
If Paul was smart he would've jumped on that trade offer to the Clippers.
In 2-3 years time Kobe Bryant with almost 20 years of basketball on his body and no cartilage left in his knees whatsoever is not going to be a pretty sight.
Lebron23
12-09-2011, 11:24 AM
Don't jinx it! :lol I'm already having a hard enough time believing any of this is even possible.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/7334410/dwight-howard-ask-orlando-magic-trade-new-jersey-nets-sources-say
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
I hope they sign Vince Carter.
1rkrage
12-09-2011, 11:24 AM
WTH is Jerry Reinsdorf doing,
The Bulls have so many assets to trump this deal...
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 11:25 AM
WTH is Jerry Reinsdorf doing,
The Bulls have so many assets to trump this deal...
I don't really get the Bulls. It seems like they always kinda put their toe in the pool, but never want to dive in.
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 11:26 AM
WTH is Jerry Reinsdorf doing,
The Bulls have so many assets to trump this deal...
Those pieces are expensive though. I think the Magic want to reduce salary obligations. Not take on more.
InspiredLebowski
12-09-2011, 11:26 AM
Can you use the amnesty AND the stretch provision in the same year? Is it one or the other? How's that work, no one talks about the stretch.
Nets fan 93
12-09-2011, 11:27 AM
lol nets first get williams on discount, now they get dwight on super discount
i would be dissapointed if stern doesnt coc k block this trade
Deron Williams was a discount? Favors, Harris, 3rd overall pick + another 1st round pick for deron Williams who wasnt extended? Hmm
pegasus
12-09-2011, 11:28 AM
Surround them with good shooters, and we've got a serious contender. They better not keep K-Hump now, they need a PF that can shoot.
I'm a Bulls fan, but I'm happy to see the Nets possibly acquiring Howard. East is gonna be fun!!:rockon:
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 11:31 AM
Deron Williams was a discount? Favors, Harris, 3rd overall pick + another 1st round pick for deron Williams who wasnt extended? Hmm
I think the Nets actually overpaid. Favors is going to be a beast. 3 years from now, you are going to be saying "I can't believe we traded him away".
But they needed to do it, and if getting Deron means you also get Howard, then it was a great move.
dynasty1978
12-09-2011, 11:31 AM
'Jerry and Jim Buss just e-mailed Stern.'
-Wojo
:lol
Grinder
12-09-2011, 11:34 AM
Hope this goes through. I'd love to see a Deron-Dwight combo. Definitely a team I'd root for in the playoffs in the East since my Sixers aren't contending anytime soon. :lol
juju151111
12-09-2011, 11:36 AM
'Jerry and Jim Buss just e-mailed Stern.'
-Wojo
:lol
You serious?
Nets fan 93
12-09-2011, 11:40 AM
I think the Nets actually overpaid. Favors is going to be a beast. 3 years from now, you are going to be saying "I can't believe we traded him away".
But they needed to do it, and if getting Deron means you also get Howard, then it was a great move.
They were going to give the same package+ two more draft picks for Carmelo Anthony. I think the Nets got a good deal.
Does it bother anyone else no one is reporting this except Broussard, who has the whole story?
pegasus
12-09-2011, 11:41 AM
'Jerry and Jim Buss just e-mailed Stern.'
-Wojo
:lol
I heard that the email had several emoticons. I bet none of them was this: :lol
I like this super team. No obnoxious fans. People will wish them well and Deron is a good dude.
All Net
12-09-2011, 11:44 AM
I like this super team. No obnoxious fans. People will wish them well and Deron is a good dude.
These two would sell tickets in their new arena thats for sure.
Soundwave
12-09-2011, 11:45 AM
A team with two very good players isn't a "super team" anyway in my book.
Especially when the two players were acquired over different seasons.
But I agree it will be fun to watch if they do get together.
longtime lurker
12-09-2011, 11:46 AM
Does it bother anyone else no one is reporting this except Broussard, who has the whole story?
Isn't Broussard usually wrong when he reports things? Who else has picked it up?
Isn't Broussard usually wrong when he reports things? Who else has picked it up?
No One. Wojo said people told him Howard hasn't made a decision yet. I think there is truth here but that Broussard is jumping the gun in my decision.
dynasty1978
12-09-2011, 11:54 AM
You serious?
Not at all, just having fun at the league's expense. :cheers:
Rameek
12-09-2011, 11:56 AM
Its a great deal for the Nets if its true, the Nets probably got a guarantee that Deron would stay and I bet Dwight knows this as well thats probably why he may ok it.
The Nets stadium is the worse thing that happened to Brooklyn. Any one that drives in that area its horrendous. There are no major highways just all local streets. If I had the chance to buy land down there I would build a parking garage there because I believe people will be stupid enough to drive there.
Fiasco
12-09-2011, 12:14 PM
LOL @ Nets...guess Howard is not that bright after all. Have fun never winning championships...which was apparently the reason you wanted to leave in the first place.
soooooooooooooo salty, lmfao
Reverend Hoops
12-09-2011, 01:38 PM
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Lebron23
12-09-2011, 01:40 PM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3849/jaymeq.png
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Serves the lakers fans right for thinking they were entitled to dwight
hawkfan
12-09-2011, 01:48 PM
Wow. The Lakers are getting royally screwed. They have better talent to give Magic for Howard.
Lopez and two first rounders? Not enough.
I'd take Lopez and 2 first rounders over Bynum.
Bynum is good but injury prone.
PP34Deuce
12-09-2011, 02:14 PM
Those pieces are expensive though. I think the Magic want to reduce salary obligations. Not take on more.
Chicago Organizations(Im born raised Chicago) are not as flashy as other big market teams. Bears a perfect example, and the White Sox. Chicago Owners are pretty patient with player cores unless an absolute disaster happens.
No one gets traded until the Paul thing gets done. Paul seems to be the major piece... Celtics still want him, Clippers,etc... Don't see Paul wanting to be in LA if they have to trade a 20 10 player iN Gasol, and a 15 8 and 4 players in Odom. After that the lakers have Kobe, a Brittle Andrew Bynum and a bunch of 3 point specialist with less athletiscm.
I also think owners simply will not allow LA to make a way to get both Dwight and Paul.
I think Paul goes to clippers, Howard goes to Nets
R.I.P.
12-09-2011, 02:28 PM
I swear Broussard is the scapegoat for stupid ESPN trade rumours. If I hadn
FireMcFailPlease
12-09-2011, 02:33 PM
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that shit cray
that shit cray...
that shit cray
greymatter
12-09-2011, 03:14 PM
This might not be as bad as it looks for Orlando. They get to dump all their bad contracts and are at least set up for a quicker rebuilding process while getting a decent player still on his rookie contract (3 million for 2012).
Dream scenario for the Magic:
After losing D12, Turk, and amnestying Arenas, then filling up the roster with 1 year deals and expirers, the Magic would be about 27-28 million below last year's cap of 58 million. They could make a run at signing D12 back AND perhaps stealing away Dwill as well. All it would take for this to happen is if the Nets finish 4th or lower in the East. Either Boston or NY could very well end up finishing ahead of the Nets for 3rd in the East. Then it would possibly dawn on D12 that he's not going to win a title with the Nets while the Heat and Bulls are still young.
In the all-time sickest of dreams, Orlando would have:
1. Ditched all their bad contracts.
2. Rebuilt instantly and likely become at least top 5 in the league on both sides of the ball.
3. Valuable trade pieces to shore up any weaknesses in their lineup (SG, SF)
4. A young core of talent that would go to the ECF or finals for at least the next 5 years.
5. 3 potential lottery picks from tanking this season and the Nets 2 first rounders should D12 and Dwill leave.
macpierce
12-09-2011, 03:15 PM
eh this is good for deron but if i'm dwight i would prefer LA
D-Wade316
12-09-2011, 03:17 PM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3849/jaymeq.png
:lol
Nets fan 93
12-09-2011, 03:19 PM
eh this is good for deron but if i'm dwight i would prefer LA
The same LA without Chris Paul? an aging Kobe or a prime D-Will? hmmm
hawkfan
12-09-2011, 03:20 PM
If Jeezy's paying LeBron, Jay Z's paying DHoward.
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