View Full Version : Yahoo: LA, HOU, NO working on new Deal
eliteballer
12-09-2011, 05:23 PM
New Orleans, Houston and Lakers are re-engaged in talks to find a new way to complete Chris Paul blockbuster trade, league sources tell Y!
First ones to report on deal being off too...
Kornheiser
12-09-2011, 05:27 PM
http://i.imgur.com/tjQGi.jpg
talkingconch
12-09-2011, 05:27 PM
YES
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 05:27 PM
hahaha! does this mean the NBA OK'd this?????
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 05:28 PM
If this deal goes through a lot of haters are gonna eat their words
R.I.P.
12-09-2011, 05:28 PM
LOL this should be real fun, cause the Lakers and Rockets will make out like bandits in a straight capspace dump.
My guess something like
Lakers: Paul
Rockets: Gasol
Hornets: Dragic, Patterson, Morris, Martin and picks.
Lakers keep Odom, and Rockets keep Scola.
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 05:28 PM
woj just posted an update(up next on espn 710), can u hook it up ? i'm bout to get in the twitter game because of this chaos.
DStebb716
12-09-2011, 05:28 PM
Proud of my man Adrian Wojnarowski. Met him a few months back. He's a St. Bonaventure alum, and that's where I currently am.
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 05:29 PM
1st day, its been an amazing roller-coaster thus far.
KOBEtherealKing
12-09-2011, 05:29 PM
This is stupid, nba is bipolar
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 05:29 PM
Ya'll forgot this one.
On renewed talks for nixed Chris Paul blockbuster: "All three teams are engaged," one source tells Y! Sports. "Not sure if it will work."
stern will veto this one and then lamar will need tissues once again
bagelred
12-09-2011, 05:32 PM
My guess is that David Stern knows he f-cked up, but he needs teams to tweak trade, even just slightly, so he can save face and approve it.
DevilsAssassin
12-09-2011, 05:34 PM
http://deuce.mysbrforum.com/photos/l/Ux23wjL3.jpg
R.I.P.
12-09-2011, 05:35 PM
http://deuce.mysbrforum.com/photos/l/Ux23wjL3.jpg
This trade needs some world peace.
Reverend Hoops
12-09-2011, 05:35 PM
My guess is that David Stern knows he f-cked up, but he needs teams to tweak trade, even just slightly, so he can save face and approve it.
Yup.
Pursuer
12-09-2011, 05:36 PM
Yup.
Exactly my thought.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 05:36 PM
Hornets want 1st round picks from LA...
not...sure...why...
pegasus
12-09-2011, 05:37 PM
Hornets want 1st round picks from LA...
not...sure...why...
Because the owners were bitching how LA would get a superstar, dump salary, and not lose any draft picks. IMO, LA's picks are worthless anyway.
Da Doc04
12-09-2011, 05:37 PM
Hornets want 1st round picks from LA...
not...sure...why...
wowzers!! give it to them... LOL!!
Lakers will get the last pick anyway :confusedshrug:
LA_Showtime
12-09-2011, 05:38 PM
Hornets want 1st round picks from LA...
not...sure...why...
Maybe to kill any opportunity for the Lakers to trade for Howard?
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 05:38 PM
If they can get the dollar numbers more in line, I would see no reason how the NBA could block it.
Also the Hornets are going to want some real value, while reducing payroll. If they can achieve that, the Lakers could get Paul.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 05:39 PM
Maybe to kill any opportunity for the Lakers to trade for Howard?
All Magic want is Hedo's contract gone; they do not want Artest or Walton.
LA do not want to use their trade exception for Hedo's sake.
There will be problems getting Howard, but I think LA are retarded if they don't trade Bynum & TE for Howard & Hedo.
Apparently LA are determined in picking up a PF with their TE.
chazzy
12-09-2011, 05:40 PM
If they can get the dollar numbers more in line, I would see no reason how the NBA could block it.
Also the Hornets are going to want some real value, while reducing payroll. If they can achieve that, the Lakers could get Paul.
They should throw in Okafor, the Lakers would need him anyway.
boozehound
12-09-2011, 05:40 PM
If this deal goes through a lot of haters are gonna eat their words
nah, not really. But they do need to make it more palatable for the hornets capwise. I still think Scola and Odom are a part of it, but I dont see houston having any really desirable small contracts.
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 05:40 PM
Why are the Rockets, Hornets & Lakers back at it again???? It's obvious that Stern gave them the green light
cured
12-09-2011, 05:41 PM
The Lakers should involve any amount of draft picks the Hornets would want. Late first rounders are usually worthless, especially to teams that have already carved out their rosters. The Suns went a few years by just selling all their picks on draft day.
I doubt a new deal doesn't include Odom but that would be ideal. Gasol and Odom is a lot for the Lakers to give up because if Bynum goes down, they're out of serviceable big men.
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 05:43 PM
Hornets probably want Bynum instead of Lamar.
Deuce Bigalow
12-09-2011, 05:43 PM
LOL this should be real fun, cause the Lakers and Rockets will make out like bandits in a straight capspace dump.
My guess something like
Lakers: Paul
Rockets: Gasol
Hornets: Dragic, Patterson, Morris, Martin and picks.
Lakers keep Odom, and Rockets keep Scola.
If that happens...ISH might crash
magnax1
12-09-2011, 05:44 PM
Is Landry still under contract for NO? If so, I bet they just throw him in to LA to lower their salary and give LA a PF.
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 05:44 PM
nah, not really. But they do need to make it more palatable for the hornets capwise. I still think Scola and Odom are a part of it, but I dont see houston having any really desirable small contracts.
Lakers should take on Okafor, that would eat up some cap space, 13 million alone
HB40TheNextStar
12-09-2011, 05:44 PM
http://i39.tinypic.com/j5f3p3.gif
DirtySanchez
12-09-2011, 05:44 PM
New Deal? Like what send Ron Ron in package now?
SternGOD will show his pimp hand is way strong again! :oldlol:
Paintballer8791
12-09-2011, 05:44 PM
You guys are already bought into the Magic giving up hope trying to build a team and convince Dwight to stay, they just got rid of Arenas and are making a trade for someone he wants(Glen Davis), if they pick up David West and make some other moves they could convince him to stay, West and Howard together will wreck sh1t.
The Choken One
12-09-2011, 05:46 PM
If that happens...ISH might crash
I personally think they need to drop him now...I ****ing love Odom & Pau, but after this incident....who knows where Odom's head is.
KOBEtherealKing
12-09-2011, 05:47 PM
You guys are already bought into the Magic giving up hope trying to build a team and convince Dwight to stay, they just got rid of Arenas and are making a trade for someone he wants(Glen Davis), if they pick up David West and make some other moves they could convince him to stay, West and Howard together will wreck sh1t.
:oldlol: okay
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 05:49 PM
Alleged deal
T.Williams, Odom, Scola, Dragic + picks to NO
Okafor & Paul to LAL
Gasol to Hou
talkingconch
12-09-2011, 05:49 PM
Alleged deal
T.Williams, Odom, Scola, Dragic + picks to NO
Okafor & Paul to LAL
Gasol to Hou
:D
Deuce Bigalow
12-09-2011, 05:49 PM
Alleged deal
T.Williams, Odom, Scola, Dragic + picks to NO
Okafor & Paul to LAL
Gasol to Hou
link?
DevilsAssassin
12-09-2011, 05:50 PM
Alleged deal
T.Williams, Odom, Scola, Dragic + picks to NO
Okafor & Paul to LAL
Gasol to Hou
so no Kevin Martin :lol :lol
boozehound
12-09-2011, 05:50 PM
Lakers should take on Okafor, that would eat up some cap space, 13 million alone
not a bad idea. I still think they need some more small pieces (rookie contracts) to make it work. Courtney Lee, Budinger and Lowry maybe? Definitely need a pg imo (though they say they are ready to role with Jack). Would the rockets really decimate their roster for just Pau? It will be very interesting to see how this all plays out.
Will people still be bitching when the hornets get an even better deal for him with these two teams?
chazzy
12-09-2011, 05:50 PM
Alleged deal
T.Williams, Odom, Scola, Dragic + picks to NO
Okafor & Paul to LAL
Gasol to Hou
Nice. Makes more sense.. less salary for NOH, another big for the Lakers. Houston probably gave up on Nene so they're ok with keeping Kmart
magnax1
12-09-2011, 05:50 PM
Alleged deal
T.Williams, Odom, Scola, Dragic + picks to NO
Okafor & Paul to LAL
Gasol to Hou
Who's T Williams?
The Choken One
12-09-2011, 05:50 PM
Alleged deal
T.Williams, Odom, Scola, Dragic + picks to NO
Okafor & Paul to LAL
Gasol to Hou
I'm no expert...but wouldn't Okafor be a decent piece for the Lakers as far as playing goes?
I'm assuming he has a horrible contract?
DevilsAssassin
12-09-2011, 05:50 PM
Who's T Williams?
Terrence Williams
pegasus
12-09-2011, 05:50 PM
Alleged deal
T.Williams, Odom, Scola, Dragic + picks to NO
Okafor & Paul to LAL
Gasol to Hou
Better deal for LA, worse for NO, but I guess they just don't want KMart's contract.
D-Rose
12-09-2011, 05:51 PM
Definitely think Stern wants to save face. Probably want the Lakers to give up more, perhaps take on some bad contracts and not receive that big trade exception. Maybe send Okafor or Landry to LA. Keeping Odom would be a bad idea though, he needs to go for team chemistry purposes.
If that happens...ISH might crash
Odom would like it though.
boozehound
12-09-2011, 05:51 PM
Alleged deal
T.Williams, Odom, Scola, Dragic + picks to NO
Okafor & Paul to LAL
Gasol to Hou
presuming thats at least two first rounders that is a better deal imo. Martin is way overpaid and a chucker (efficient, but still a chucker) IMO.
boozehound
12-09-2011, 05:52 PM
I'm no expert...but wouldn't Okafor be a decent piece for the Lakers as far as playing goes?
I'm assuming he has a horrible contract?
13 mil I think. yeah and 3 more years
cured
12-09-2011, 05:54 PM
13 mil I think. yeah and 3 more years
Hornets don't want to use amnesty on him?
boozehound
12-09-2011, 05:54 PM
Better deal for LA, worse for NO, but I guess they just don't want KMart's contract.
well again, the deal isnt just about on court. its about both current salary costs (its really not reasonable for the hornets to trade themselves into cap/tax territory) as well as long term financial commitments. If they can get rid of Emeka's 3 years for a much cheaper scola and odom's expirer, I think this is overall the better deal for them.
Deuce Bigalow
12-09-2011, 05:55 PM
who keeps negging with the message 'dick yo mouth'?
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 05:56 PM
Hornets don't want to use amnesty on him?
why would they? they're not paying luxury tax and they need players.
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 05:56 PM
I'm no expert...but wouldn't Okafor be a decent piece for the Lakers as far as playing goes?
I'm assuming he has a horrible contract?
Yes t he Lakers would need him bad! him @ PF and Bynum @ C would be sick on D.
Burgz
12-09-2011, 05:56 PM
if NO doesn't at least get budinger we should officially call this Dell Demps' rookie hazing
cured
12-09-2011, 05:57 PM
why would they? they're not paying luxury tax and they need players.
You're right. Since amnesty means the players have to get paid out, anyway, the league probably doesn't want to ante up for his contract. But they would need to trade that dead money away so if I'm LA I take the deal.
boozehound
12-09-2011, 05:58 PM
Yes t he Lakers would need him bad! him @ PF and Bynum @ C would be sick on D.
yeah, definitely a nice tandem. I like this for them much better than just paul. and they arent even throwing in anything extra (maybe a pick?). See, patience and not having kneejerk reactions may pay off.
chazzy
12-09-2011, 05:58 PM
EricPincus Eric Pincus
I hear Turiaf a possibility for Lakers if they get a deal done with Hornets - via Vujacic trade exception
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 05:58 PM
This is the trade the Hornets should be after:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cw7uk47
boozehound
12-09-2011, 05:59 PM
if NO doesn't at least get budinger we should officially call this Dell Demps' rookie hazing
I am surprised that they arent insisting on either him or maybe lee.
DirtySanchez
12-09-2011, 05:59 PM
This is the trade the Hornets should be after:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cw7uk47
LOL
That would make Lamar happy!
DMAVS41
12-09-2011, 06:00 PM
They should throw in Okafor, the Lakers would need him anyway.
Yep. I can't believe the Hornets are willing to do a Paul deal without including Okafor to begin with.
Pushxx
12-09-2011, 06:01 PM
This is the trade the Hornets should be after:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cw7uk47
Damn...LA making out like bandits even if they have to throw in picks. They have a championship team set for years.
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 06:03 PM
Damn...LA making out like bandits even if they have to throw in picks. They have a championship team set for years.
No they wouldn't They'd have Paul and... in a couple of years. :oldlol:
Haymaker
12-09-2011, 06:03 PM
Why is LA giving away less and receiving the same?
DaPerceive
12-09-2011, 06:04 PM
Only Laker haters are scared and believe that Paul and the Lakers weren't screwed.
Bosnian Sajo
12-09-2011, 06:04 PM
EricPincus Eric Pincus
I hear Turiaf a possibility for Lakers if they get a deal done with Hornets - via Vujacic trade exception
OH MY GOD!! This is a good possibility, oh how I would love to have Turiaf back on the TEAM!! :banana: :cheers: :rockon:
Paul/fisher
Kobe/Blake(who else ya know)
Artest/Barnes
Okafor/Turiaf
Bynum/Turiaf
Niceee :cheers:
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 06:06 PM
Why is LA giving away less and receiving the same?
how is la giving away less?
chazzy
12-09-2011, 06:06 PM
Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Union has told NBA if suitable CP trade not made by Monday, it will pursue other options, including litigation, sources say...
Just let the deal go through. This is a PR disaster if this continues to drag after the lockout mess.
talkingconch
12-09-2011, 06:08 PM
OH MY GOD!! This is a good possibility, oh how I would love to have Turiaf back on the TEAM!! :banana: :cheers: :rockon:
Paul/fisher
Kobe/Blake(who else ya know)
Artest/Barnes
Okafor/Turiaf
Bynum/Turiaf
Niceee :cheers:
Won't pursuing howard be a possibility if this deal goes through? Won't Okafor and Bynum be appealing to Orlando or can we not give up Okafor + extras?
boozehound
12-09-2011, 06:08 PM
Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Union has told NBA if suitable CP trade not made by Monday, it will pursue other options, including litigation, sources say...
Just let the deal go through. This is a PR disaster if this continues to drag after the lockout mess.
its only a pr disaster because people are idiots, including the nba media.
boozehound
12-09-2011, 06:09 PM
Won't pursuing howard be a possibility if this deal goes through? Won't Okafor and Bynum be appealing to Orlando or can we not give up Okafor + extras?
probably cannot repackage him for 3 months (old cba) or something like that.
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 06:10 PM
probably cannot repackage him for 3 months (old cba) or something like that.
don't you have like a week to make a trade, then you have to wait 3 month? i probably haven;t a clue what i'm talking about, but figured i'd throw that out there.
Lakeshow3
12-09-2011, 06:13 PM
Could anyone see the Lakers amnestying him after the deal? His contract is going to become extremely expensive.
ETA: Actually, I'm not sure you can even do that under this CBA? Anyone know?
longtime lurker
12-09-2011, 06:14 PM
Woohoooo the trade is back on. So if Okafor is coming back to LA then it officially proves that the owners are a bunch a morons. LA is getting a better deal than before :lol
boozehound
12-09-2011, 06:15 PM
don't you have like a week to make a trade, then you have to wait 3 month? i probably haven;t a clue what i'm talking about, but figured i'd throw that out there.
hmmn, I think that may be the case (under the old cba) for traded players, but you cannot repackage them.
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 06:15 PM
Better deal for LA, worse for NO, but I guess they just don't want KMart's contract.
It was about money, that's really what Dan Gayberts letter said. They want the Lakers to stay over the cap.
boozehound
12-09-2011, 06:15 PM
Woohoooo the trade is back on. So if Okafor is coming back to LA then it officially proves that the owners are a bunch a morons. LA is getting a better deal than before :lol
really? Okafor is better than a TE that would allow them to go get dwight?
boozehound
12-09-2011, 06:16 PM
It was about money, that's really what Dan Gayberts letter said. They want the Lakers to stay over the cap.
Dan Gilberts letter is extremely childish, but is nothing more than a distraction. it really has nothing to do with the trade at all, other than his opinion. Thats not why Stern vetoed the trade.
magnax1
12-09-2011, 06:17 PM
really? Okafor is better than a TE that would allow them to go get dwight?
They didn't have a realistic shot at Dwight in the first place.
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 06:17 PM
Could anyone see the Lakers amnestying him after the deal? His contract is going to become extremely expensive.
ETA: Actually, I'm not sure you can even do that under this CBA? Anyone know?
If they secure Dwight yes, but after next season, specially now that the Lakers will be to thin on top.
Taking Okafor's deal would make it harder for the Lakers to get Howard, and prob takes them out of absorbing a bad contract from Orlando as well if there was a trade in the works for Dwight.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 06:21 PM
If the information I'm getting is correct, karma will come back to bite all those people making fan of LA last night.
Lets just say we won't just be getting Dwight & Paul... :bowdown:
Lets just say Hedo will be the only non-borderline all-star caliber starter we might have this season.
I'll keep it on a hush until about 6pm eastern, this information might get leaked so people don't call me a liar.
pegasus
12-09-2011, 06:22 PM
Could anyone see the Lakers amnestying him after the deal? His contract is going to become extremely expensive.
ETA: Actually, I'm not sure you can even do that under this CBA? Anyone know?
You cannot amnesty a player that you received via trade.
longtime lurker
12-09-2011, 06:22 PM
really? Okafor is better than a TE that would allow them to go get dwight?
Lol @ thinking the Dwight trade was contingent on the trade exception. Lakers can still get Dwight and it will probably be for a shitty package. Probably involve another 3 team trade. Dwight is even more in play if they manage to land Paul.
The Choken One
12-09-2011, 06:23 PM
If the information I'm getting is correct, karma will come back to bite all those people making fan of LA last night.
Lets just say we won't just be getting Dwight & Paul... :bowdown:
Lets just say Hedo will be the only non-borderline all-star caliber starter we might have this season.
I'll keep it on a hush until about 6pm eastern, this information might get leaked so people don't call me a liar.
Everything you've said has been accurate so far...I want to believe so bad...
but honestly. I would just love for the Lakers to trade for Okafor & Paul and then sign West or McRoberts.
D-Rose
12-09-2011, 06:23 PM
If the information I'm getting is correct, karma will come back to bite all those people making fan of LA last night.
Lets just say we won't just be getting Dwight & Paul... :bowdown:
Lets just say Hedo will be the only non-borderline all-star caliber starter we might have this season.
I'll keep it on a hush until about 6pm eastern, this information might get leaked so people don't call me a liar.
Haven't been around much lately, but how reliable has this source of yours been?
talkingconch
12-09-2011, 06:23 PM
Lol @ thinking the Dwight trade was contingent on the trade exception. Lakers can still get Dwight and it will probably be for a shitty package. Probably involve another 3 team trade. Dwight is even more in play if they manage to land Paul.
This, alongside Kobe it's hard not to pass up for Dwight
Pursuer
12-09-2011, 06:25 PM
If the information I'm getting is correct, karma will come back to bite all those people making fan of LA last night.
Lets just say we won't just be getting Dwight & Paul... :bowdown:
Lets just say Hedo will be the only non-borderline all-star caliber starter we might have this season.
I'll keep it on a hush until about 6pm eastern, this information might get leaked so people don't call me a liar.
Wait, what??
Lakeshow3
12-09-2011, 06:25 PM
If the information I'm getting is correct, karma will come back to bite all those people making fan of LA last night.
Lets just say we won't just be getting Dwight & Paul... :bowdown:
Lets just say Hedo will be the only non-borderline all-star caliber starter we might have this season.
I'll keep it on a hush until about 6pm eastern, this information might get leaked so people don't call me a liar.
CP3
Kobe
Hedo
D. West
DH12
bet this it
D West takes a deep discount to play with his boy
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 06:25 PM
Haven't been around much lately, but how reliable has this source of yours been?
money...he reported the chris paul thing to LA a few days ago.
boozehound
12-09-2011, 06:26 PM
Lol @ thinking the Dwight trade was contingent on the trade exception. Lakers can still get Dwight and it will probably be for a shitty package. Probably involve another 3 team trade. Dwight is even more in play if they manage to land Paul.
if they cannot take back hedo's contract, they wont get dwight, simple as that. No way they can do that without the TE.
D-Rose
12-09-2011, 06:26 PM
Everything you've said has been accurate so far...I want to believe so bad...
but honestly. I would just love for the Lakers to trade for Okafor & Paul and then sign West or McRoberts.
Lakers have cap room to sign West?
Pursuer
12-09-2011, 06:27 PM
CP3
Kobe
Hedo
D. West
DH12
bet this it
D West takes a deep discount to play with his boy
Is there anything left for the bench? LOL
boozehound
12-09-2011, 06:27 PM
If the information I'm getting is correct, karma will come back to bite all those people making fan of LA last night.
Lets just say we won't just be getting Dwight & Paul... :bowdown:
Lets just say Hedo will be the only non-borderline all-star caliber starter we might have this season.
I'll keep it on a hush until about 6pm eastern, this information might get leaked so people don't call me a liar.
oh noes, people made fun of us! whah!
D-Rose
12-09-2011, 06:27 PM
money...he reported the chris paul thing to LA a few days ago.
*heart takes a leap
magnax1
12-09-2011, 06:27 PM
Lakers have cap room to sign West?
Don't they still have MLE?
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 06:28 PM
if they cannot take back hedo's contract, they wont get dwight, simple as that. No way they can do that without the TE.
what about the trade exception we have from the sasha trade?
Deuce Bigalow
12-09-2011, 06:28 PM
Can we stop talking about Cp3 and dwight, Let us get one first
Droid101
12-09-2011, 06:28 PM
Is there anything left for the bench? LOL
Vet minimums would be fine.
Shit, TMac just signed for the minimum and so did Marquis Daniels. They can get quality players.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 06:28 PM
Lol @ thinking the Dwight trade was contingent on the trade exception. Lakers can still get Dwight and it will probably be for a shitty package. Probably involve another 3 team trade. Dwight is even more in play if they manage to land Paul.
If Paul trade is finalize, Dwight will be a Laker.
I bet my life on that from everything that I've been told, the Paul trade is being worked to facilitate the arrival of superman.
You think it's a coincidence that NJ were on the front page last night right after the Paul deal was "dead"? They know LA are in the drivers seat and they jumped on the opportunity ASAP.
You don't gotta believe me brah, just follow ESPN it will eventually unfold.
And I'll repeat again, the information I'm getting is what LA are actually doing in trying to bring those players in; lets not be naive and think other teams aren't doing the same.
But I do believe Paul & Howard prefer LA over any other team, by a long shot. Mainly because NYK signed Chandler...
chazzy
12-09-2011, 06:28 PM
CP3
Kobe
Hedo
D. West
DH12
bet this it
D West takes a deep discount to play with his boy
That's what I would guess too. West is coming off a torn ACL so his value/asking price isn't high.
D-Rose
12-09-2011, 06:29 PM
Don't they still have MLE?
If DeAndre Jordan is getting 10 mill a year, why would David West take the MLE? :confusedshrug:
The Choken One
12-09-2011, 06:29 PM
Lakers have cap room to sign West?
If Paul goes to the Lakers he'd probably take a pay cut to play with him and have a chance at a ring.
My guess. But from a lot that I've read, it's likely if Paul goes to the Lake Show so will West.
Pursuer
12-09-2011, 06:30 PM
Vet minimums would be fine.
Shit, TMac just signed for the minimum and so did Marquis Daniels. They can get quality players.
Yeah, I was kidding. But is there any realistic chance for David West to be in L.A.? Wouldn't he have to sign to a vet's minimum?
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 06:30 PM
If Paul trade is finalize, Dwight will be a Laker.
I bet my life on that from everything that I've been told, the Paul trade is being worked to facilitate the arrival of superman.
You think it's a coincidence that NJ were on the front page last night right after the Paul deal was "dead"? They know LA are in the drivers seat and they jumped on the opportunity ASAP.
You don't gotta believe me brah, just follow ESPN it will eventually unfold.
And I'll repeat again, the information I'm getting is what LA are actually doing in trying to bring those players in; lets not be naive and think other teams aren't doing the same.
But I do believe Paul & Howard prefer LA over any other team, by a long shot. Mainly because NYK signed Chandler...
Their rumors always come true. :rolleyes:
D-Rose
12-09-2011, 06:30 PM
If Paul goes to the Lakers he'd probably take a pay cut to play with him and have a chance at a ring.
My guess. But from a lot that I've read, it's likely if Paul goes to the Lake Show so will West.
Ah, I see. :cheers:
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 06:30 PM
This is the trade the Hornets should be after:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cw7uk47
FFFFFAAAAAAAKKKK NOOOO!!! THE LAKERS DONT THAT!
:oldlol:
Haven't been around much lately, but how reliable has this source of yours been?
Hes been pretty much ahead of the game in everything.. cept for maybe certain details.. considering how anything can change from one moment to another, his information has been right on point.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 06:31 PM
Haven't been around much lately, but how reliable has this source of yours been?
My colleague is a marketing strategist for the Lakers; four days ago he said "I expect to be doing a marketing campaign to welcome the new superstars on the team"...
We went to Cornell together, he is an absolutely genius. 29 years of age and is already making six digits plus bonuses working for the ****ing Lakers. He's like the right hand man to Keith Harris.
magnax1
12-09-2011, 06:31 PM
If DeAndre Jordan is getting 10 mill a year, why would David West take the MLE? :confusedshrug:
5.8 million a year for a good but oft injured PG is pretty fair. Actually it's a bit excessive, as I don't think he's gotten anywhere near that before.
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 06:32 PM
That's what I would guess too. West is coming off a torn ACL so his value/asking price isn't high.
LA can only give him a mill tho, rite?
longtime lurker
12-09-2011, 06:32 PM
if they cannot take back hedo's contract, they wont get dwight, simple as that. No way they can do that without the TE.
That's where a 3d team comes into play. Reroute Okafor to a third team who will send an expirer for Hedo. Let's put it this way, Lakers wouldn't be trying to reinitiate talks if they didn't think they could get Dwight Howard. Also if Dwight was a lost cause he'd already be a Net. I don't have inside information but you have to give LA management the benefit of the doubt that they've planned this to the T
Droid101
12-09-2011, 06:33 PM
Yeah, I was kidding. But is there any realistic chance for David West to be in L.A.? Wouldn't he have to sign to a vet's minimum?
I think they have the mini-mid level, which teams over the tax get. But that's only 3 years at 3 mil a year. Chump change compared to what he could get from say, the Pacers.
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 06:33 PM
If Paul trade is finalize, Dwight will be a Laker.
I bet my life on that from everything that I've been told, the Paul trade is being worked to facilitate the arrival of superman.
You think it's a coincidence that NJ were on the front page last night right after the Paul deal was "dead"? They know LA are in the drivers seat and they jumped on the opportunity ASAP.
You don't gotta believe me brah, just follow ESPN it will eventually unfold.
And I'll repeat again, the information I'm getting is what LA are actually doing in trying to bring those players in; lets not be naive and think other teams aren't doing the same.
But I do believe Paul & Howard prefer LA over any other team, by a long shot. Mainly because NYK signed Chandler...
Otis Smith won't trade with LA. Not too hard to understand. :facepalm
LA_Showtime
12-09-2011, 06:33 PM
I must be missing something. Why would David West, a very solid player who was once an all-star, forgo a bunch of money and sign on the cheap with the Lakers...? I know he had that injury last year, but come on.
Kornheiser
12-09-2011, 06:34 PM
Otis Smith won't trade with LA. Not too hard to understand. :facepalm
http://i.imgur.com/8AFt4.png
Alleged deal
T.Williams, Odom, Scola, Dragic + picks to NO
Okafor & Paul to LAL
Gasol to Hou
Whats the difference besides T.Williams being added only to give Lakers a starting PF in Okafor? :confusedshrug:
And how is L.A getting Dwight after this deal when they lack the assets to aquire him? Sorry Bynum is not enough.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 06:37 PM
Otis Smith won't trade with LA. Not too hard to understand. :facepalm
What if I told you Otis was pissed LA were putting HIM on hold, he already offered Hedo & Dwight for Bynum + TE. LA rejected.
How does that make you feel? :roll:
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 06:38 PM
What if I told you Otis was pissed LA were putting HIM on hold, he already offered Hedo & Dwight for Bynum + TE. LA rejected.
How does that make you feel? :roll:
Why tho?
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 06:38 PM
Whats the difference besides T.Williams being added only to give Lakers a starting PF in Okafor? :confusedshrug:
And how is L.A getting Dwight after this deal when they lack the assets to aquire him? Sorry Bynum is not enough.
I'll quote:
"owners want to shed salary, renegotiated deal saves New Orleans close to 24 million...
Lakeshow3
12-09-2011, 06:39 PM
I must be missing something. Why would David West, a very solid player who was once an all-star, forgo a bunch of money and sign on the cheap with the Lakers...? I know he had that injury last year, but come on.
Gary Payton and Karl Malone ring a bell?
Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-09-2011, 06:39 PM
Otis Smith won't trade with LA. Not too hard to understand. :facepalm
he knows whats bynum value is...a 16mil expirer who has major upside than Lopez.....Plus they get to also dump the contract of Hedo
With Nets tampering charges they are out of the D12 lottery...its only lakers because he wants to play here...
The Lakers wont trade Pau/Odom unless they know Howard is withing reach...
Even a kid who is watching NBA know you cant trust on Bynum to be healthy whole season....but Orlando has to take a chance on that
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 06:39 PM
Gary Payton and Karl Malone ring a bell?
them guys made a boat load of money during their nba careers tho.
Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-09-2011, 06:40 PM
Gary Payton and Karl Malone ring a bell?
they were well done after their prime....D West is still a solid player
I am surprised we dont see his name at all...nobody wants to sign him
Gary Payton and Karl Malone ring a bell?
This is David West's last big contract. Malone and Payton were well past that stage.
magnax1
12-09-2011, 06:40 PM
Gary Payton and Karl Malone ring a bell?
GP and Malone were 35 and 40 (or close to it) West is 31 or so.
LA_Showtime
12-09-2011, 06:41 PM
Gary Payton and Karl Malone ring a bell?
Gary Payton and Karl Malone were much older while David West is still relatively young.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 06:41 PM
Why tho?
They wanted to finalize the Paul trade, and do NOT want Hedo's contract.
Also Jim Buss influenced to put that trade on hold because of his man crush towards Bynum. He wanted to use the TE to trade for a good PF, and keep Bynum (or trade him later for Dwight, if Orlando would take Bynum alone without Hedo).
Both Mitch & Buss Sr. aren't on the same page with Jimmy and want the deal for Howard done if possible; they want him more so then Paul.
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 06:42 PM
What if I told you Otis was pissed LA were putting HIM on hold, he already offered Hedo & Dwight for Bynum + TE. LA rejected.
How does that make you feel? :roll:
Like you're full of sh!t.
magnax1
12-09-2011, 06:42 PM
I still don't buy Bynum for Dwight, even if Hedo's included. There has to be something more.
D-Rose
12-09-2011, 06:43 PM
I still don't buy Bynum for Dwight, even if Hedo's included. There has to be something more.
I agree, I'm sensing something with a third team perhaps.
LA_Showtime
12-09-2011, 06:44 PM
They wanted to finalize the Paul trade, and do NOT want Hedo's contract.
Also Jim Buss influenced to put that trade on hold because of his man crush towards Bynum. He wanted to use the TE to trade for a good PF, and keep Bynum (or trade him later for Dwight, if Orlando would take Bynum alone without Hedo).
Both Mitch & Buss Sr. aren't on the same page with Jimmy and want the deal for Howard done if possible; they want him more so then Paul.
If that's actually true we should put a hit on Jim Buss. What the **** is wrong with that idiot.
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 06:46 PM
If that's actually true we should put a hit on Jim Buss. What the **** is wrong with that idiot.
This.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 06:48 PM
I still don't buy Bynum for Dwight, even if Hedo's included. There has to be something more.
Read my other thread, Howard will come to LA via a 3-way trade.
LA and Orlando are at a stalemate. LA yesterday did not want to trade their TE (they supposedly got from the Paul trade) and without it they can not swallow Hedo's contract.
The only logical solution is to involve a 3rd team, IMO.
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 06:51 PM
Howard is going to NJ.
I would bet Crossover 200 dollars that Dwight isn't going to LA.
You up for that bet?
Lakeshow3
12-09-2011, 06:51 PM
Read my other thread, Howard will come to LA via a 3-way trade.
LA and Orlando are at a stalemate. LA yesterday did not want to trade their TE (they supposedly got from the Paul trade) and without it they can not swallow Hedo's contract.
The only logical solution is to involve a 3rd team, IMO.
Who the **** would want Hedo's contract though?
boozehound
12-09-2011, 06:52 PM
Read my other thread, Howard will come to LA via a 3-way trade.
LA and Orlando are at a stalemate. LA yesterday did not want to trade their TE (they supposedly got from the Paul trade) and without it they can not swallow Hedo's contract.
The only logical solution is to involve a 3rd team, IMO.
what team is going to take hedo and give orlando something useful? there have to be more parts (artest to the third team etc).
chazzy
12-09-2011, 06:52 PM
Howard is going to NJ.
I would bet Crossover 200 dollars that Dwight isn't going to LA.
You up for that bet?
I don't know why you're sooo confident, yesterday you called us all delusional for discussing the CP3 trade.. did you hear about the tampering case?
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 06:54 PM
I don't know why you're sooo confident, yesterday you called us all delusional for discussing the CP3 trade.. did you hear about the tampering case?
No I didn't. I said Clippers fans were delusional for saying they'd be title contenders in a couple seasons. :oldlol:
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 06:54 PM
what team is going to take hedo and give orlando something useful? there have to be more parts (artest to the third team etc).
I don't know man, it's just my own assumption.
I don't see Orlando and LA trading just the two of them based on everything I've been told.
Wonder Bread, give me an hour Okay?
I am not confidant that we'll be getting Howard unless the Paul trade happens. This trade is not guaranteed; if we get Paul, then Howard is 99.9% guaranteed.
I'll make a bet with you then, k champ?
Bosnian Sajo
12-09-2011, 06:55 PM
Dell Demps addressed the media on Friday in regards to the killed Chris Paul trade.
"We've been given autonomy to make another trade," said Demps.
Demps added that owners frequently back out of trades that are close to being complete.
Demps laughed off a question that he considered stepping down.
"That's not true at all," said Demps. "I'm having the time of my life."
Demps says "everything is back on the table" in terms of trade discussions.
WOOOWWW BIGG NEW! :D Rejoice Laker fans :party:
Kornheiser
12-09-2011, 06:56 PM
If that's actually true we should put a hit on Jim Buss. What the **** is wrong with that idiot.
http://i.imgur.com/H1szC.png
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 06:56 PM
WOOOWWW BIGG NEW! :D Rejoice Laker fans :party:
YAWN, :oldlol: ...
IGOTGAME
12-09-2011, 06:57 PM
WOOOWWW BIGG NEW! :D Rejoice Laker fans :party:
pretty much means the trade is going to go through in some form. Now the Lakers might just get back Okafor too.
Bosnian Sajo
12-09-2011, 06:57 PM
YAWN, :oldlol: ...
Maybe im reading it wrong, but "everything back on the table" means basically the same deal, no?
Plus it being official makes me relieved, so shut up! :lol
boozehound
12-09-2011, 06:57 PM
I don't know man, it's just my own assumption.
I don't see Orlando and LA trading just the two of them based on everything I've been told.
Wonder Bread, give me an hour Okay?
I am not confidant that we'll be getting Howard unless the Paul trade happens. This trade is not guaranteed; if we get Paul, then Howard is 99.9% guaranteed.
I'll make a bet with you then, k champ?
yeah, I agree there has to be a third team, but it still doesnt add up to me. Why take hedo's contract with nothing else. gotta be picks or something.
All Net
12-09-2011, 06:58 PM
what does this mean...we get okafor instead of TE?
Crossover you see this happening tonight?
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 06:58 PM
Rejoice about what?
percolator
12-09-2011, 06:58 PM
Demps should get a nice Christmas bonus from Santa Stern for having to deal with this shit
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 07:00 PM
I don't know man, it's just my own assumption.
I don't see Orlando and LA trading just the two of them based on everything I've been told.
Wonder Bread, give me an hour Okay?
I am not confidant that we'll be getting Howard unless the Paul trade happens. This trade is not guaranteed; if we get Paul, then Howard is 99.9% guaranteed.
I'll make a bet with you then, k champ?
How is Orlando giving up Howard to the Lakers considering the history of the franchises? I just don't see it unless someone else gives them a new franchise player, which Bynum isn't.
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 07:00 PM
Demps should get a nice Christmas bonus from Santa Stern for having to deal with this shit
He'll be lucky to keep his job.
Meticode
12-09-2011, 07:01 PM
stern will veto this one and then lamar will need razorblades instead of tissues this time
Fixed.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 07:03 PM
Maybe im reading it wrong, but "everything back on the table" means basically the same deal, no?
Plus it being official makes me relieved, so shut up! :lol
No, I expect the deal to be a lot different. Odom/Gasol still being involved, Houston will be modifying the deal and Okafor will most likely be heading out.
Owners will not have a say in this if NO remains under the salary cap, that is why they are renegotiating. (to make greedy owners happy, not New Orleans itself) Which I think is horse shit, please someone buy the Hornets already and save them from this bullshit. :facepalm
I do not expect a deal to be done tonight, as they just recently started talking again.
Miller for 3
12-09-2011, 07:03 PM
Rondo to the Pacers
CP3 to the Celtics
DC, Hans, Green, and two first rounders to NOH is the best available deal. dont do CP3 for washed up vets with huge contracts again
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 07:04 PM
I do not expect a deal to be done tonight, as they just recently started talking again.
I thought you needed an hour, champ.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 07:04 PM
How is Orlando giving up Howard to the Lakers considering the history of the franchises? I just don't see it unless someone else gives them a new franchise player, which Bynum isn't.
Dwight has been very quiet regarding going public with demands, but trust me once the Paul deal is finalized. His demands will be known publicly. Orlando does have interest in Brook Lopez and Andrew Bynum. Orlando would rather shed Hedo's contract then receive 2 1st round picks from NJ though...
That's the logic
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 07:06 PM
I thought you needed an hour, champ.
Kid, I have no problem with making a $200 wager.
I just doubt you have it. I make 4 bills a day, what do you make?
Minus your moms allowance.
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 07:08 PM
Kid, I have no problem with making a $200 wager.
I just doubt you have it. I make 4 bills a day, what do you make?
Minus your moms allowance.
When you brag on the internet, about anything, 9 times out of ten, the bragger is a fat acne ridden 14 year old.
I make enough to live a comfortable life.
PM me your paypal info and I will give you mine. I assume you're game, that is of course, if trolling internet message boards brings in "4 bills" a day.
Sarcastic
12-09-2011, 07:09 PM
Dwight has been very quiet regarding going public with demands, but trust me once the Paul deal is finalized. His demands will be known publicly. Orlando does have interest in Brook Lopez and Andrew Bynum. Orlando would rather shed Hedo's contract then receive 2 1st round picks from NJ though...
That's the logic
But he can't just dictate his demands because the Lakers don't have the leverage to get him UNLESS they trade him. He can't just walk there in the offseason. He needs a trade to happen. For that reason, Orlando has the ability to control the process.
Orlando can say for example: Kobe + Bynum for Dwight, or no deal. What can LA do if their demand is that rigid?
boozehound
12-09-2011, 07:09 PM
Kid, I have no problem with making a $200 wager.
I just doubt you have it. I make 4 bills a day, what do you make?
Minus your moms allowance.
you sound like such a douchebag.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 07:13 PM
you sound like such a douchebag.
Maybe but I don't follow him like a lost dog and call him a liar every chance I get, yet I'm the douchebag?
Yeah bragging about money is always a loss-loss situation on the internet, so I get your point.
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 07:14 PM
Maybe but I don't follow him like a lost dog and call him a liar every chance I get, yet I'm the douchebag?.
Follow you? I think this is the only thread I've posted in where I've called you out. Get over yourself you douchey troll.
IGOTGAME
12-09-2011, 07:15 PM
you sound like such a douchebag.
yep. comment was very douchey.
Yeah bragging about money is always a loss-loss situation on the internet, so I get your point.
bragging about money is a bad trait in life not just the internet.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 07:15 PM
Follow you? I think this is the only thread I've posted in that you've started and called you out. Get over yourself you douchy troll.
:oldlol:
Wonder Bread Kid
12-09-2011, 07:16 PM
:oldlol:
I'm glad you find that humorous. Now PM me your paypal info, champ.
Put that 4 bills a day income to action.
Fatal9
12-09-2011, 07:17 PM
http://www.guzer.com/pictures/boy_dog_pray.jpg
Mr. Stern, please continue to block this from happening for the sake of the league.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 07:20 PM
yep. comment was very douchey.
bragging about money is a bad trait in life not just the internet.
Agreed, it was a mistake on my part. Am honestly is never like that in real life.
Don't really have a reason for saying it, just a meaningless insult I suppose.
Wonder Bar, I don't have paypal.
I use e-bank transfers though?
JohnnyWall
12-09-2011, 07:21 PM
you sound like such a douchebag.
Wonder Bread Kid is an even bigger douchebag, so it's justified.
blacknapalm
12-09-2011, 07:23 PM
if this goes thru, all the people that said the trade wasn't fair and that it was because cp3 was 'dictating' need to leave. this would just be further indication, the NBA plans on contracting NO. btw, superstar for superstar trades are extremely rare. lots of people want some perfect trade to go thru when there's plenty of trades and signings that are a lot more lopsided than this.
magnax1
12-09-2011, 07:28 PM
http://www.guzer.com/pictures/boy_dog_pray.jpg
Mr. Stern, please continue to block this from happening for the sake of the league.
I don't get this. It's not like it's an unfair deal. The Hornets had their chance with CP3 and really didn't ever seem like they were willing to push for contention. You can say that's because they don't have the $, but the revenue sharing should help that. It's just that you can't expect it to happen right away especially when they're trying to keep the team's salary low to sell it.
Fatal9
12-09-2011, 07:36 PM
I don't get this. It's not like it's an unfair deal. The Hornets had their chance with CP3 and really didn't ever seem like they were willing to push for contention. You can say that's because they don't have the $, but the revenue sharing should help that. It's just that you can't expect it to happen right away especially when they're trying to keep the team's salary low to sell it.
It's not. I'm fine with the CP part of it but Dwight is ending up on the Lakers with 99% certainty if this trade goes through.
lakers_forever
12-09-2011, 07:38 PM
It's not. I'm fine with the CP part of it but Dwight is ending up on the Lakers with 99% certainty if this trade goes through.
Aren't you a Lakers fan? :confusedshrug:
chazzy
12-09-2011, 07:39 PM
KevinDing KEVIN DING
Gasol has strained right quadriceps and didn't practice -- and skipped media session today to get medical tests.
Pau sabotaging the trade :lol
Fatal9
12-09-2011, 07:39 PM
Aren't you a Lakers fan? :confusedshrug:
No...though I usually cheer for them/Kobe come playoff time.
Mr. I'm So Rad
12-09-2011, 07:40 PM
KevinDing KEVIN DING
Gasol has strained right quadriceps and didn't practice -- and skipped media session today to get medical tests.
Pau sabotaging the trade :lol
:oldlol: Oh shit
Jon_Koncak
12-09-2011, 07:40 PM
Looks like Stern will cave in after all..it was one of his best decisions as a commish,but apparently the whinny Espn experts are more powerful.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 07:41 PM
It's not. I'm fine with the CP part of it but Dwight is ending up on the Lakers with 99% certainty if this trade goes through.
Answer me this, what's better:
1) Lopez & 2 1st round picks from NJ
or
2) Bynum, Walton & trade exception
Both Walton & Bynum have a team option after this season, so that's close to 20 million off the books for Orlando, or they keep Bynum and build around him. Or getting Lopez and a couple of meaningless 1st round picks (since Howard & Deron will certainly be a top 3 seed in the east).
I don't know, those are the two trades I've heard from the league. It's almost like who's better Lopez or Bynum?
blacknapalm
12-09-2011, 07:43 PM
Looks like Stern will cave in after all..it was one of his best decisions as a commish,but apparently the whinny Espn experts are more powerful.
like stern caved into owner demands with ulterior motives and blindsided demps? then give a vague answer of 'basketball reasons'? you can't block a potential FA from signing an extension...please
Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-09-2011, 07:44 PM
Answer me this, what's better:
1) Lopez & 2 1st round picks from NJ
or
2) Bynum, Walton & trade exception
Both Walton & Bynum have a team option after this season, so that's close to 20 million off the books for Orlando, or they keep Bynum and build around him. Or getting Lopez and a couple of meaningless 1st round picks (since Howard & Deron will certainly be a top 3 seed in the east).
I don't know, those are the two trades I've heard from the league. It's almost like who's better Lopez or Bynum?
The Lakers deal is much better. If you ask a neutral analyst he would say Lakers...because you get 20 mil off the book plus you get a rental center who has more potential than Lopez
vert48
12-09-2011, 07:45 PM
Kid, I have no problem with making a $200 wager.
I just doubt you have it. I make 4 bills a day, what do you make?
Minus your moms allowance.If you are only making 4 bills a day, it might be time to go get a real job instead of a hobby.
2010splash
12-09-2011, 07:47 PM
This crosschecker guy has been right about everything. For you fools questioning why Orlando would want Bynum for Howard, I ask you this: who can they get that is more talented than a 24 year old 7-footer with a respectable offensive game and defensive anchor ability? Think about it reasonably for a second.
Yes Bynum is injury prone. So what? He's 24 and has tons of time ahead of him. When healthy he was a double double machine in limited minutes AND playing 4th option. Imagine what he does healthy as a #1 option with unlimited touches.
Brook Lopez is a bum, especially compared to Bynum. A center's job is a protect the paint and rebound, and Lopez doesn't do any of that.
All the other offers are mainly trash with the exception of possible the Clippers. But why would anyone want to play for them? They've never been any good and if this Paul to LA deal goes down, which it will, they still won't be any good.
Bynum is as good of a return as Orlando can hope to get. It's significantly better than what Toronto got for Bosh and Cleveland got for LeBron. Or whatever Orlando got (nothing) when Shaq left them.
Fatal9
12-09-2011, 07:47 PM
Answer me this, what's better:
1) Lopez & 2 1st round picks from NJ
or
2) Bynum, Walton & trade exception
Both Walton & Bynum have a team option after this season, so that's close to 20 million off the books for Orlando, or they keep Bynum and build around him. Or getting Lopez and a couple of meaningless 1st round picks (since Howard & Deron will certainly be a top 3 seed in the east).
I don't know, those are the two trades I've heard from the league. It's almost like who's better Lopez or Bynum?
Those offers are about equal given the fact Lopez has yet to miss an NBA game in his career and Bynum has missed 124 in the last four seasons alone and has major issues with his knees. Nets would also be able to swallow Hedo's contract.
And regardless, I don't really care so much for the offers themselves. I just DON'T want to see 5 of the best players in the league playing on only two teams (Heat and Lakers). I want to see more contenders popping up, not a two horse race. I want to see players exerting their full abilities, face each other head to head, not joining up to beat up on everyone else. I'm just against three MVP caliber guys playing on one team.
lakers_forever
12-09-2011, 07:48 PM
I don't get how the Lakers and Rockets could improve the deal for the Hornets. Lakers gave up Odom and Gasol and Rockets gave everyone. What more could the NBA want?
I think the deal goes like it was supposed to or does not go down at all.
2010splash
12-09-2011, 07:48 PM
Oh my God!!! It's going down. I can't believe it!!
The next super trio dynasty is in: Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard to the LA Lakers!!!:banana: :banana:
Finals is going to be hyped like a motherf*cker this year!
magnax1
12-09-2011, 07:49 PM
It's not. I'm fine with the CP part of it but Dwight is ending up on the Lakers with 99% certainty if this trade goes through.
Agreed, but I still don't see it happening unless LA has something up their sleeve or Orlando's GM had a frontal lobotomy.
lakers_forever
12-09-2011, 07:50 PM
Oh my God!!! It's going down. I can't believe it!!
The next super trio dynasty is in: Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard to the LA Lakers!!!:banana: :banana:
Finals is going to be hyped like a motherf*cker this year!
Pass me that shite, bro. http://www.growroom.net/board/public/style_emoticons/default/pass.gif
2010splash
12-09-2011, 07:53 PM
This team is the face of professional basketball. Always has been and always will be.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5tym5M1D0zY/TlsQzYtvd2I/AAAAAAAAAtI/CUqFWlHEEOU/s1600/Los+Angeles+Lakers+logo.jpg
Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-09-2011, 07:53 PM
Oh my God!!! It's going down. I can't believe it!!
The next super trio dynasty is in: Chris Paul, Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard to the LA Lakers!!!:banana: :banana:
Finals is going to be hyped like a motherf*cker this year!
where did you get the info?
chazzy
12-09-2011, 07:54 PM
Answer me this, what's better:
1) Lopez & 2 1st round picks from NJ
or
2) Bynum, Walton & trade exception
Both Walton & Bynum have a team option after this season, so that's close to 20 million off the books for Orlando, or they keep Bynum and build around him. Or getting Lopez and a couple of meaningless 1st round picks (since Howard & Deron will certainly be a top 3 seed in the east).
I don't know, those are the two trades I've heard from the league. It's almost like who's better Lopez or Bynum?
Wouldn't this whole tampering issue jeopardize any NJ deal?
Blue&Orange
12-09-2011, 07:56 PM
This crosschecker guy has been right about everything.
He just said that LA were in talks for Howard and didn't know anything about paul. We know how that went. Now he is flip flopping so hard and covering every scenario that is impossible for him to not be right. :lol
2010splash
12-09-2011, 07:57 PM
where did you get the info?
I didn't get any info. I'm just jumping to logical conclusions based on the fact that one of our very own fellow ISHers has accurately broken news before re: Chris Paul and other Laker related news.
You guys are all dumb. This crosschecker guy has predicted like 3 things right in the past week.
Coupled with the fact that Dwight Howard was caught wearing a Lakers hat.
Also knowing that every ESPN source and other random insider has said Howard loves LA.
And finally crosschecker reporting that LA and Orlando have had advanced talks for the past week or so.
All after the Lakers, Rockets, and Hornets agreed to a blockbuster deal that send Chris Paul to LA.
Anyone who thinks Howard is going to some bum team like New Jersey, re-signing with Orlando or doing ANYTHING but wearing an LA Lakers uniform this season is a foooooool.
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 07:58 PM
He just said that LA were in talks for Howard and didn't know anything about paul. We know how that went. Now he is flip flopping so hard and covering every scenario that is impossible for him to not be right. :lol
:facepalm
lakers_forever
12-09-2011, 08:00 PM
He just said that LA were in talks for Howard and didn't know anything about paul. We know how that went. Now he is flip flopping so hard and covering every scenario that is impossible for him to not be right. :lol
I have a source that tells me that the Lakers might make a trade for Howard and/or Paul. But he also told me they might not do any trades or trade for some other player. :lol
Blue&Orange
12-09-2011, 08:20 PM
:facepalm
From what I heard, LA getting Paul is a long-shot and no formal talks has even started, unlike the Howard for Bynum swap.
This information leads me to believe that Odom will stay a Laker.
Just a quick survey
crosso√er
12-09-2011, 08:25 PM
Just a quick survey
Yes, and when new information was told to me; I posted it here and an hour or so later that information was confirmed by an online source.
What you're not getting is who my source is; he is a marketing guy for the Lakers, he reports to Mr. Harris. They are not in the negotiating rooms with Mitch K. but they do hears things around the office. My buddy reports to me what he hears... what is your point exactly?
Blue&Orange
12-09-2011, 09:02 PM
what is your point exactly?
Already made.
LA_Showtime
12-09-2011, 09:19 PM
Yes, and when new information was told to me; I posted it here and an hour or so later that information was confirmed by an online source.
What you're not getting is who my source is; he is a marketing guy for the Lakers, he reports to Mr. Harris. They are not in the negotiating rooms with Mitch K. but they do hears things around the office. My buddy reports to me what he hears... what is your point exactly?
Dude, no one cares if you have a source and no one cares if you don't. Just post the information and stop trying to defend yourself. There's no point, half the people here are just going to try and start an argument with you.
DirtySanchez
12-09-2011, 10:03 PM
Any further news on this?
I heard that David West is being thrown in the mix?
No Bynum? No Chris Paul.
That's pretty much Stern's message. Eat it Kupchak.
IGOTGAME
12-09-2011, 10:06 PM
I'm pretty sure this trade is going to go through. I just think they are gonna force LA to take back Okafor or Ariza. Honestly I would welcome either guy on LA but I still hope LA has enough assets for Dwight Howard.
DirtySanchez
12-09-2011, 10:07 PM
I'm pretty sure this trade is going to go through. I just think they are gonna force LA to take back Okafor or Ariza. Honestly I would welcome either guy on LA but I still hope LA has enough assets for Dwight Howard.
Lets put in Artest and get Ariza back!
SourGrapes
12-09-2011, 10:15 PM
No Bynum? No Chris Paul.
That's pretty much Stern's message. Eat it Kupchak.
most people find you useless
nashwade
12-09-2011, 10:22 PM
dwight and CP to the Lakers? you gotta be kidding me
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 10:48 PM
Crossover, what kinda deal are the Lakers making to get D12?
G-Funk
12-09-2011, 10:49 PM
dwight and CP to the Lakers? you gotta be kidding me
Before u go banana's :banana:...Think about it, Lakers vs Heat Finals! Heat need fair competition, so their Rings can be a bit more credible.
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-09-2011, 10:49 PM
most people find you useless
:lol
The Choken One
12-09-2011, 10:54 PM
Before u go banana's :banana:...Think about it, Lakers vs Heat Finals! Heat need fair competition, so their Rings can be a bit more credible.
Don't give anyone false hope...
Lakers wouldn't lose... :D
thatoneblackguy
12-09-2011, 11:01 PM
KevinDing on Twitter
Quote:
Kobe on his health: "Doesn't matter. All you guys think I'm over the f-----' hill anyway.":lol
Troutfisch
12-09-2011, 11:27 PM
Was watching all the latest info on ESPN during lunch earlier today and couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Day 1 of Free Agency and already more drama than the media can keep up with! Stern is running quite the circus these days...
thatoneblackguy
12-10-2011, 01:48 AM
ESPNSteinLineMarc Stein
ESPN sources: Hornets/Lakers/Rockets cautiously optimistic they'll have reworked CP3 trade to present to NBA perhaps as soon as Saturday
ESPNSteinLineMarc Stein
Specific changes to deal not immediately known but teams working through night to infuse CP3 deal w/enough youth and/or picks to satisfy NBA
Mannix
Representatives from the Rockets, Lakers and Hornets continue to discuss options for a @CP3 deal the NBA will approve, source says
...
thatoneblackguy
12-10-2011, 01:50 AM
David Aldridge: Source: progress made in CP3 talks to Lakers, though many hurdles remain. Story up soon on http://NBA.com.
,,,
thatoneblackguy
12-10-2011, 01:55 AM
@LarryCoon: I heard Lakers, Rox & Hornets working deep into the night to restructure CP3 trade so it will bring more money to Cleveland.
:oldlol: :applause:
thatoneblackguy
12-10-2011, 01:55 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski
As three teams redo framework of Chris Paul blockbuster, sides are "progressing well" toward a reshaped deal, front office source tells Y!...
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-10-2011, 01:56 AM
:oldlol: :applause:
golden
longtime lurker
12-10-2011, 01:56 AM
:oldlol: :applause:
Brilliant. :roll:
thatoneblackguy
12-10-2011, 01:57 AM
Woj:
The primary work on deal has been between Lakers and Hornets sides, sources say. Rockets still get Gasol, still move same parts. Odom to NO.
,,,
Bladers
12-10-2011, 01:57 AM
ESPNSteinLineMarc Stein
ESPN sources: Hornets/Lakers/Rockets cautiously optimistic they'll have reworked CP3 trade to present to NBA perhaps as soon as Saturday
http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/11/11848/12133306.jpg
talkingconch
12-10-2011, 01:58 AM
Adrian Wojnarowski
As three teams redo framework of Chris Paul blockbuster, sides are "progressing well" toward a reshaped deal, front office source tells Y! ...
http://i39.tinypic.com/t5qava.jpg
Kornheiser
12-10-2011, 01:59 AM
http://i.imgur.com/5vV9e.jpg
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-10-2011, 02:01 AM
http://i.imgur.com/5vV9e.jpg
:applause:
thatoneblackguy
12-10-2011, 02:12 AM
Chris Mannix: Rival executives expecting three-team deal to get worked out to meet NBA approval. "They are going to get there," texted a GM.,.
thatoneblackguy
12-10-2011, 02:12 AM
Mannix
Sources say Rockets are likely to put one or two young players into the deal. Unclear which ones, but HOU willing to make moves..,.,.
SCREWstonRockets
12-10-2011, 02:14 AM
^Damn, we are giving up a lot for Gasol.
blacknapalm
12-10-2011, 02:14 AM
demps is going to to amnesty cp3 at the last second, drop the mic and flip stern the double bird. swag
thatoneblackguy
12-10-2011, 02:15 AM
demps is going to to amnesty cp3 at the last second, drop the mic and flip stern the double bird. swag
:oldlol:
repped
duhduhduh
12-10-2011, 02:17 AM
^Damn, we are giving up a lot for Gasol.
I read somewhere that Rockets had a deal in place for Nene. Gasol and Nene would be a sick front court.
All Net
12-10-2011, 02:17 AM
Cmon Mitch!!!!!!
macpierce
12-10-2011, 02:21 AM
seeing how kevin mchale was a great poster, he will be getting pau gasol who is arguably the best post player in the game
:bowdown:
blacknapalm
12-10-2011, 02:29 AM
seeing how kevin mchale was a great poster, he will be getting pau gasol who is arguably the best post player in the game
:bowdown:
i guess it's back to #1 option. seems like hou is giving up a lot though...didn't NJ offer nene between $55-60M today? hou can't outbid that...unless that was just a smoke screen
crosso√er
12-10-2011, 02:30 AM
Apparently Mitch told the Buss family on Wednesday just as they were ready to make a proposition to Orlando about Howard, that they should pursue the idea of getting Paul. As he was on the trading block, Mitch reminisced of what Phil said about New Orleans last year and how their new ownership will become a roadblock to potential deals with big market teams. He wanted to try and get a deal for Paul first, for two very important reasons.
1) It would further entice Howard to come to LA.
2) He knew if LA were to get Howard first, there would be a lot of difficulty in getting an approval from the owners on also getting Paul.
It came to fruition, Stern denied the Paul trade, but imagine how much more difficult it would have been for LA to get Paul, if they first acquired Howard.
If Mitch pulls this off, can we say executive of the year?
If Mitch pulls this off, can we say executive of the year?
No.....
More like executive of the decade.
blacknapalm
12-10-2011, 02:35 AM
Apparently Mitch told the Buss family on Wednesday just as they were ready to make a proposition to Orlando about Howard, that they should pursue the idea of getting Paul. As he was on the trading block, Mitch reminisced of what Phil said about New Orleans last year and how their new ownership will become a roadblock to potential deals with big market teams. He wanted to try and get a deal for Paul first, for two very important reasons.
1) It would further entice Howard to come to LA.
2) He knew if LA were to get Howard first, there would be a lot of difficulty in getting an approval from the owners on also getting Paul.
It came to fruition, Stern denied the Paul trade, but imagine how much more difficult it would have been for LA to get Paul, if they first acquired Howard.
If Mitch pulls this off, can we say executive of the year?
good foresight but first blockade would have still been the same. looks like nba knew he was setting up to add howard as well. but yes, if he pulls it off :bowdown:
chazzy
12-10-2011, 02:36 AM
I hope all of this gets done soon. I've never been on twitter this much
Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-10-2011, 02:37 AM
^Damn, we are giving up a lot for Gasol.
not really because if they have Gasol...they can go get NENE...and thats a very skilled BIG man combination
crosso√er
12-10-2011, 02:38 AM
I hope all of this gets done soon. I've never been on twitter this much
I don't think it'll be done tonight, tomorrow afternoon in the earliest, IMO.
If the trade does happen, I don't think it can be finalized until Monday anyways.
blacknapalm
12-10-2011, 02:38 AM
I hope all of this gets done soon. I've never been on twitter this much
shows how much of junkies we are huh? i mean, we could just ignore the whole lead up and wait for the dust to settle while we do other things. but nope, we're here f5'ing and refreshing like SOB's :oldlol:
talkingconch
12-10-2011, 02:39 AM
agree, this is exciting
..if your a laker fan
:cheers:
LakerGirl72
12-10-2011, 02:40 AM
agree, this is exciting
..if your a laker fan
:cheers:
i read much more than i post but i am SUPER EXCITED! :D
Stern will block this sh*t again like he's prime Mutumbo.
NoGunzJustSkillz
12-10-2011, 02:42 AM
shows how much of junkies we are huh? i mean, we could just ignore the whole lead up and wait for the dust to settle while we do other things. but nope, we're here f5'ing and refreshing like SOB's :oldlol:
:cheers:
Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-10-2011, 02:43 AM
shows how much of junkies we are huh? i mean, we could just ignore the whole lead up and wait for the dust to settle while we do other things. but nope, we're here f5'ing and refreshing like SOB's :oldlol:
hehe...i was at work today all day doing F5's...dammit i wanted to write F5...but got so used to pressing F5 key i did that like 3 times
stupid me :oldlol:
shows how much of junkies we are huh? i mean, we could just ignore the whole lead up and wait for the dust to settle while we do other things. but nope, we're here f5'ing and refreshing like SOB's :oldlol:
QFT
All Net
12-10-2011, 02:45 AM
We are F5'ing more than Brock lesnar did in wwe
Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-10-2011, 02:49 AM
all the rats are gone back to their holes...thats why i only see Laker guys posting
lol
Doranku
12-10-2011, 02:53 AM
The sooner something definitive happens, the better. I feel bad for Odom and Gasol having to sit there helplessly as these dudes decide their fate while they're forced to still go to training camp and shit.
Gonna miss those guys in a Laker uniform for sure.
koBEDABEST
12-10-2011, 03:03 AM
I want cute ass Stephen Curry to join my team tbh. Constant fapping sessions!
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