Dwight Howard has requested a trade to the NETS.

[DStebb716]

Dwight Howard has requested that the Orlando Magic trade him to the New Jersey Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.

https://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/145639584053727232

[DStebb716]

Dream on Laker fans?

[Reverend Hoops]

Bynum > Lopez

[PyrrhusX]

:applause: :bowdown: :applause: :rockon:
CONGRATS NETS FANS & NBA. :cheers:

But seriously gonna be interesting to see the CP3 trade for Lakers now.

[GOBB]

So in 4hrs someone will make another thread saying Dwight requested a trade to the Nets?

[The Real JW]

http://i36.tinypic.com/4uc39z.gif

[D12"Magic"]

:applause: :bowdown: :applause: :rockon:
CONGRATS NETS FANS & NBA. :cheers:

But seriously gonna be interesting to see the CP3 trade for Lakers now.
Hell yeah, if true :cheers:
Nothing official though

[DStebb716]

Bynum > Lopez

Lopez is more of a guarantee than Bynum. Stays healthy. Then the Nets can offer better picks (kind of, they are going to be way better now) and take Turk's contract without Orlando taking Odom which makes no sense for their future plans.

[97 bulls]

So in 4hrs someone will make another thread saying Dwight requested a trade to the Nets?
Yep. And call it breaking news, and their source will be some nobody from twitter. But nothing will come from it.

[Reverend Hoops]

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8215/jayme.png

[Reverend Hoops]

Lopez is more of a guarantee than Bynum. Stays healthy. Then the Nets can offer better picks (kind of, they are going to be way better now) and take Turk's contract without Orlando taking Odom which makes no sense for their future plans.

Lopez is a certified loser though. Bynum is much better. But the picks do make a difference.

[DirtySanchez]

The team has not been made official yet.

[crosso√er]

BERGER:

the Lakers want to try to position themselves to land both Paul and Howard, who sources say is unequivocal that the Lakers are his first choice.

[talkingconch]

The team has not been made official yet.

This.

[Nets fan 93]

Hey laker fans. How about an apology?

[niko]

Hell yeah, if true :cheers:
Nothing official though

Beware the mystery team! That,s what. I learned this week.

[The_Yearning]

BERGER:

the Lakers want to try to position themselves to land both Paul and Howard, who sources say is unequivocal that the Lakers are his first choice.

His who?

[fubu05]

This is insane. It goes from Nets... to Lakers... then back to Nets...

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lht5tkqdKD1qdlkgg.gif

[ThatsGame]

Thank God The Nba Is Saved

[Batz]

Just a way for Orlando to scare the Lakers into upping their offer.

As I said, don't take anything seriously till it is completely official.

[Eric Cartman]

Lopez is a certified loser though. Bynum is much better. But the picks do make a difference.

Low end first round pick doesn't make that much of a difference.

[LA_Showtime]

Hey laker fans. How about an apology?

Why would we apologize to you? All we're doing is following the rumors like you are.

[Eric Cartman]

Just a way for Orlando to scare the Lakers into upping their offer.

As I said, don't take anything seriously till it is completely official.


Exactly.

Denver did the same thing to make NYC up their offer.

[Nick Young]

nope, not gonna happen, we gonna get the trade blocked due to tampering charges:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

Dont get your hopes up nets fans it will make the pain hurt more when D12 becomes a laker

[Paintballer8791]

REQUEST DENIED

Signed, Magic Fans.

[D12"Magic"]

Beware the mystery team! That,s what. I learned this week.
?

Also



Peter_PNBA Peter Phillips
@Chris_Broussard After hearing Dwight wants NJ, Nene leaning more to signing with Nets# Sources say

[Nets fan 93]

Why would we apologize to you? All we're doing is following the rumors like you are.
Nah the nets were a terrible team to go to. His decision was already made... And so on.

[DaPerceive]

Nets have nobody to offer outside of Brook Lopez. Nets aren't getting him, deal with it.

[Swaggin916]

Lopez is a certified loser though. Bynum is much better. But the picks do make a difference.


Indeed why ould i want a bum like lopez who does not board and has been on teams that have done nothing but suck? Bynum has had kobe, but when the lakers had a healthy bynum before gasol they were n pace to win more tan 50 games when the years before they were scrapping to win low 40s. Bynum may be a black hole, but at least he had a winning mentality.

[Bajanmale]

Just a way for Orlando to scare the Lakers into upping their offer.

As I said, don't take anything seriously till it is completely official.

i agree and i feel at the end of the day he will be a Laker. Same old same old

[DStebb716]

BERGER:

the Lakers want to try to position themselves to land both Paul and Howard, who sources say is unequivocal that the Lakers are his first choice.

Berger never said that.

[crosso√er]

Not true, I just confirmed it. :oldlol:

[DMV2]

If Dwight is smart, he'd play in New Jersey/Brooklyn with Deron.

Team DDP(Deron, Dwight and Prokhorov) :rockon: *throws the diamond cutter sign for Jay-Z*

[All Net]

BERGER:

the Lakers want to try to position themselves to land both Paul and Howard, who sources say is unequivocal that the Lakers are his first choice.

[DStebb716]

BERGER:

the Lakers want to try to position themselves to land both Paul and Howard, who sources say is unequivocal that the Lakers are his first choice.

Berger never said this.

[D12"Magic"]

BERGER:

the Lakers want to try to position themselves to land both Paul and Howard, who sources say is unequivocal that the Lakers are his first choice.
:lol
like Dstebb said, berger never said that.

[DirtySanchez]

Mixed reports right now....U nets fans r jumping the shark

[PyrrhusX]

Nah the nets were a terrible team to go to. His decision was already made... And so on.

This and all this 'smoke-screen' talk.
I hope the nets get him and re-sign Deron. It would have suck if they were left with othing next year.

[D12"Magic"]

Mixed reports right now....U nets fans r jumping the shark
Oh lets not act like every Laker fan insisted on Howard being their's.

[All Net]

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/33780584

[Clutch]

I hope Dwight and CP3 will end up in the West.

East would be too strong.
Heat
Bulls
Knicks
Celtics
Nets if they sign Howard

That's 5 really strong teams,each one of them able to battle for at least ECF.

West:
OKC
Mavs without many key players from last year (Chandler,Butler,maybe Barea...)
Lakers
Grizzlies

and that's pretty much it.

East would be scary.

[pegasus]

Just a way for Orlando to scare the Lakers into upping their offer.

As I said, don't take anything seriously till it is completely official.

This. Plus it makes Dwight look better, too. Some people will believe that he wanted to go to NJ to start his own dynasty, but Orlando sent him to LA because they liked Bynum better.

[Nick Young]

Propose new CP3 LAL trade to Stern
Dwight's agent says he wants to be traded to the Nets
Stern comfortable about the CP3 trade, approves it
Dwight changes his mind and wants to be traded to the Lakers
Bynum + trade exception for Dwight Howard
Mitch Kupchak = God Tier Genius Status

this guy will explain it to you nets fans

[DevilsAssassin]

?

Also
:lol :wtf:

[Fiasco]

http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/33780584

Unequivocal isn't even used once in that article.

Please stop listening to Crossdresser, people.

[niko]

That article wasn't great news for nets fans, clearly him wanting to go there is good but it clearly said magic want to deal with lakers.

[All Net]

.@CBSSports confirms that Dwight Howard requested trade to Nets. But a person involved in Howard chase cautions not to count out Lakers yet.

[crosso√er]

Unequivocal isn't even used once in that article.

Please stop listening to Crossdresser, people.

Hey douche bag, watch the ****ing radio.
Did I say it was from that article which was posted at 6:28, and my comment was before that time?

You're one big retard.

[All Net]

@KBergCBSKen Berger

The person familiar with Howard's thinking said the All-Star center still views L.A. as the best fit for his off-court pursuits

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Two things re: D12 trade request: 1) even if he, as Yahoo! reports, wants to go to Nets, NJ offer of Lopez/2 picks DOA. 3rd team imperative.

[Haymaker]

@KBergCBSKen Berger

The person familiar with Howard's thinking said the All-Star center still views L.A. as the best fit for his off-court pursuits Now we have mind readers? :roll:

[D12"Magic"]

John Hollinger
The Jersey Boy in me is beaming with pride that somebody demanded a trade to NJ. Zip it about the Brooklyn thing and let me enjoy this.
Exactly how I Feel :lol

[D12"Magic"]

@KBergCBSKen Berger

The person familiar with Howard's thinking said the All-Star center still views L.A. as the best fit for his off-court pursuits
Yet he apparently demanded a trade to NJ?

[bmulls]

Now we have mind readers? :roll:

LOL what a ridiculous source.

"Well, I have studied all of Howard's post game interviews. Combined with my bachelors degree in Psychology I can guarantee (with 25% certainty) that Howard will go to LA"

[All Net]

Yet he apparently demanded a trade to NJ?

Paul also demanded a trade to NY

Dwight may want NJ but he isn't against Lakers either.

[DuMa]

Hey douche bag, watch the ****ing radio.
Did I say it was from that article which was posted at 6:28, and my comment was before that time?

You're one big retard.

how does one watch a radio :facepalm

this douche has gotten laker fans all hopeful over a fake ass source and now is trying to backpedal out of his guarantees.

[DaPerceive]

Paul also demanded a trade to NY

Dwight may want NJ but he isn't against Lakers either.
He is going to go to a team that has the best offers for Dwight and that's the Lakers. He is going to play for some ***** Russian owner and an inferior PG.

[All Net]

Lets face it if NJ like the lakers offer best he will go there...and he will sign there.

[D12"Magic"]

Paul also demanded a trade to NY

Dwight may want NJ but he isn't against Lakers either.
NY does not have assets, though NJ does.
It is definitely a 2 man race between the Nets and Lakers.

[PyrrhusX]

Lets face it if NJ like the lakers offer best he will go there...and he will sign there.

NJ likes the Lakers offer?:facepalm

[crosso√er]

how does one watch a radio :facepalm

this douche has gotten laker fans all hopeful over a fake ass source and now is trying to backpedal out of his guarantees.

:facepalm

That quote was in LG forum and the guy said Berger said that on the radio.

[LA_Showtime]

That article wasn't great news for nets fans, clearly him wanting to go there is good but it clearly said magic want to deal with lakers.

That's what I don't understand. I mean obviously I think Bynum's the better player and has a higher ceiling than Lopez, but you would think with each franchise's history they would want to do everything to NOT send him to LA.

[All Net]

NJ likes the Lakers offer?:facepalm

Yeah they do...that has been stated.

[HurricaneKid]

No, I'm quite sure NJ hates that the Lakers are making any offer to ORFREAKINGLANDO

[Wonder Bread Kid]

LOL at Lakers fans. :oldlol:

[Clippersfan86]

One NBA agent's Twitter.

"I'll go on the record now to say that Dwight Howard is going to be traded to the LA #Clippers"


I hope it's not true. Bad fit for Bad Blake and dude is a little bit*h IMO with how he's handled all this trade crap. I'm almost positive this guy is full of it though.

[Wonder Bread Kid]

Hey X-Over... get that two hundy ready for it's e-transfer. :oldlol:

[Sarcastic]

That's what I don't understand. I mean obviously I think Bynum's the better player and has a higher ceiling than Lopez, but you would think with each franchise's history they would want to do everything to NOT send him to LA.

Bynum is better than Lopez, but the Nets can throw in picks too.

[LA_Showtime]

Bynum is better than Lopez, but the Nets can throw in picks too.

Picks are overrated. It's either going to be a mid-to-late first round pick and even lottery picks are hit or miss.

[DirtySanchez]

Just in....the Magic do NOT want Lopez and draft picks......Reported by Aldridge.

[All Net]

Just in....the Magic do NOT want Lopez and draft picks......Reported by Aldridge.

Not surprised it has been reported Magic like the Lakers offer and not the Nets.

[DaPerceive]

Just in....the Magic do NOT want Lopez and draft picks......Reported by Aldridge.
So the Nets are not getting him. :lol

Yeah, Dwight is a Laker. Sign it, book it, I don't care how you put it on yo' ink but he is going to be a Laker!

[LA_Showtime]

This is just getting annoying. Is Stern just going to keep rejecting the Lakers/Hornets/Rockets offer until Howard is traded?

[brownmamba00]

One NBA agent's Twitter.

"I'll go on the record now to say that Dwight Howard is going to be traded to the LA #Clippers"


I hope it's not true. Bad fit for Bad Blake and dude is a little bit*h IMO with how he's handled all this trade crap. I'm almost positive this guy is full of it though.
LOL GTFO here, you would jump all over Dwight if the Clipps had a chance of getting him. Stop trying to act so 'cool' dipshit.

Dwight>>>>>>Griffin

[themurph]

So the Nets are not getting him. :lol

Yeah, Dwight is a Laker. Sign it, book it, I don't care how you put it on yo' ink but he is going to be a Laker!


You never know....All it takes is getting another team involved...NJ can still be in it, given that's the team Howard wants to go to...

I don't think either side should be beating on their chest just yet...

[ashlar]

Is it just me or Orlando is very stupid if they take the Nets deal with 2 probably useless late round picks and Brooke Lopez. I mean the guy averaged 6 rebounds in 35 minutes last year. SIX REBOUNDS for a 7'1" center. That is Bargnani territory. I would much rather gamble on bynum who has much more upside is pretty much a 15 million expirer with a team option if he does pan out. Seems pretty obvious to me.

[comerb]

This is just getting annoying. Is Stern just going to keep rejecting the Lakers/Hornets/Rockets offer until Howard is traded?

Yep, that's the idea.

[KOBEtherealKing]

If lakers get chris paul, I'm pretty sure lakers would involve a 3rd team for dwight.

[themurph]

Is it just me or Orlando is very stupid if they take the Nets deal with 2 probably useless late round picks and Brooke Lopez. I mean the guy averaged 6 rebounds in 35 minutes last year. SIX REBOUNDS for a 7'1" center. That is Bargnani territory. I would much rather gamble on bynum who has much more upside is pretty much a 15 million expirer with a team option if he does pan out. Seems pretty obvious to me.


Actually, those picks are not useless...They are high first round picks...

Secondly, it's not only about what Orlando wants...It's also about who is willing to take on Turkolu's crazy contract...

[ashlar]

Actually, those picks are not useless...They are high first round picks...

Secondly, it's not only about what Orlando wants...It's also about who is willing to take on Turkolu's crazy contract...

They're not goingn to be high draft picks. Are you crazy? You think a Dwill/Dwight combo would be a bottom feeder? Both teams are willing to absorb Hedo's contract. It just makes very little sense to take the nets Deal if you were Orlando. Brooke Lopez is not a difference maker and is terrible on the boards and average at best on defense.

[crosso√er]

Hey X-Over... get that two hundy ready for it's e-transfer. :oldlol:

You're not stalking me thought, right?
When I said I'll use an e-transfer you never replied douche bag.

You want to do this trade, if so, we can exchange our emails that we use for our financial institutions. Also provide your branch name and address (obviously).

[themurph]

They're not goingn to be high draft picks. Are you crazy? You think a Dwill/Dwight combo would be a bottom feeder? Both teams are willing to absorb Hedo's contract. It just makes very little sense to take the nets Deal if you were Orlando. Brooke Lopez is not a difference maker and is terrible on the boards and average at best on defense.


The Nets' picks belong to OTHER teams...lower ranked teams...They are not original picks of New Jersey...

Basically, their picks will be high draft picks because they came in from previous trades....Get it?

[D12"Magic"]

[QUOTE]
Al
If the #Nets need a third and fourth team to get deal for Dwight done shouldn

[All Net]

Aldridge on NBA TV Right Now:

*Believes Andrew Bynum is a better asset than Brook Lopez
*Orlando does not think Brook Lopez and 2 first round picks is enough for Dwight Howard.

[themurph]

They're not goingn to be high draft picks. Are you crazy? You think a Dwill/Dwight combo would be a bottom feeder? Both teams are willing to absorb Hedo's contract. It just makes very little sense to take the nets Deal if you were Orlando. Brooke Lopez is not a difference maker and is terrible on the boards and average at best on defense.


And addition to the Nets' other teams high draft picks (they have stockpiled a nice amount of picks from their past deals), this is why the Nets has the best path for a deal...

From a piece...


"The Nets have assets, and they'd love to use them to acquire Dwight Howard, who wants out of Orlando. New Jersey currently has a little more than $9 million in cap space, but King can increase that to almost $22 million by waiving Travis Outlaw via the amnesty clause and renouncing the Bird rights to free agent big man Kris Humphries.

That CAP SPACE, along with young center Brook Lopez, gives Magic general manager Otis Smith an interesting option should he decide he needs to trade Howard. Lopez isn't comparable to the three-time Defensive Player of the Year, but he is one of the better centers in the league and is only 23 years old. Plus, the Nets' cap space gives Smith the ability put his team in a much better financial position."

[themurph]

.
^^


Billy King..look him up....

[D12"Magic"]

Billy King..look him up....
The same guy that got Deron

[D12"Magic"]

Aldridge on NBA TV Right Now:

*Believes Andrew Bynum is a better asset than Brook Lopez
*Orlando does not think Brook Lopez and 2 first round picks is enough for Dwight Howard.
BK could try to pull off a 3 team trade or a 4 team trade.

[LA_Showtime]

Since when is Billy King a competent GM? The Deron Williams trade was pure genius but the guy also tends to overpay mediocre players.

[Deuce Bigalow]

I just dont see Howard wanting to go there, I'll be surprised if it happens

[niko]

This worked in the melo situation because melo kept threatening not to sign with new jersey until they finally got fed up. Do any of us really think he won't sign with la?

I think this means that the nets are in the game but I doubt they are favorites.

[themurph]

Since when is Billy King a competent GM? The Deron Williams trade was pure genius but the guy also tends to overpay mediocre players.


Nah...his time at Philly was lauded...He made a lot of great moves to give Iverson a good cast given they had salary cap issues...

But, all this doesn't matter though....No one knows what will happen...Howard could land in LA or NJ...

Who knows? We gotta wait and see....

[D12"Magic"]

Since when is Billy King a competent GM? The Deron Williams trade was pure genius but the guy also tends to overpay mediocre players.
He has been doing a find job with Nets.
Those outlaw and Petro signings were Rod Thorn.

[D12"Magic"]

This worked in the melo situation because melo kept threatening not to sign with new jersey until they finally got fed up. Do any of us really think he won't sign with la?

I think this means that the nets are in the game but I doubt they are favorites.
Of course you doubt the Nets are favorites, nothing new here.

[niko]

Of course you doubt the Nets are favorite, nothing new here.
I doubt my Knicks win the nba title though I will be rooting for it. You don't need to expect to happen what you want to happen.

I grade it lakers slightly ahead of nets with mystery team lurking distant third. Are you a baseball fan? Then this week you know beware the mystery team.

[LA_Showtime]

I doubt my Knicks win the nba title though I will be rooting for it. You don't need to expect to happen what you want to happen.

I grade it lakers slightly ahead of nets with mystery team lurking distant third. Are you a baseball fan? Then this week you know beware the mystery team.

I don't see the Knicks competing in the East. I think they're better than Boston but clearly worse than Miami, which is strange because I think Boston matches up well with Miami. :oldlol: They're like the stupid version of the Big Three, except they've only got 2.

[D12"Magic"]

I doubt my Knicks win the nba title though I will be rooting for it. You don't need to expect to happen what you want to happen.

I grade it lakers slightly ahead of nets with mystery team lurking distant third. Are you a baseball fan? Then this week you know beware the mystery team.
Are you talking about the Angels? The supposed mystery team?
I dont watch base ball by the way.

[RRR3]

I doubt my Knicks win the nba title though I will be rooting for it. You don't need to expect to happen what you want to happen.

I grade it lakers slightly ahead of nets with mystery team lurking distant third. Are you a baseball fan? Then this week you know beware the mystery team.
Do not speak of such things. :mad: :no:

[ashlar]

Offtopic but are league offices open on sunday and are signings/trades allowed to be made on sunday?

[LA_Showtime]

Offtopic but are league offices open on sunday and are signings/trades allowed to be made on sunday?
:roll:

[niko]

Are you talking about the Angels? The supposed mystery team?
I dont watch base ball by the way.
Yeah, in baseball this week every free agent basically went to some team which flew out of nowhere at the last second.

[D12"Magic"]

Yeah, in baseball this week every free agent basically went to some team which flew out of nowhere at the last second.
What does this have to do with Dwight?

[crosso√er]

"Lakers absolutely want him. RT @ImJamesWhoAreU: @KevinDing are they being proactive in the Dwight Howard sweepstakes?"

http://twitter.com/#!/KevinDing

[DirtySanchez]

Magic do not want Lopez Nets need to include third team.

[niko]

What does this have to do with Dwight?
He might not go to nets or lakers, he could be a clipper o r something bizarre.

[D12"Magic"]

He might not go to nets or lakers, he could be a clipper o r something bizarre.
oh ok.

[NASH = BEST]

Man if I were Chris Paul I would ask NO not to trade me to LA anymore. Id just play the season out, and sign with the Knicks as a free agent. Why would dude want to play with an aging Kobe, and a weak as overall team if the trade were to go through.

Good thing about all this is that the Lakers aren't getting their super team :applause:

[beeazy]

Man if I were Chris Paul I would ask NO not to trade me to LA anymore. Id just play the season out, and sign with the Knicks as a free agent. Why would dude want to play with an aging Kobe, and a weak as overall team if the trade were to go through.

Good thing about all this is that the Lakers aren't getting their super team :applause:

Impossible.

[crosso√er]

Man if I were Chris Paul I would ask NO not to trade me to LA anymore. Id just play the season out, and sign with the Knicks as a free agent. Why would dude want to play with an aging Kobe, and a weak as overall team if the trade were to go through.

Good thing about all this is that the Lakers aren't getting their super team :applause:

How exactly are they going to sign him when they just gotten Tyson Chandler?

[PejaNowitzki]

Bynum > Lopez



For about the 30 games that he plays, the other 50 that Bynum is in street clothes, Lopez is by far superior. :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[Nets fan 93]

For about the 30 games that he plays, the other 50 that Bynum is in street clothes, Lopez is by far superior. :hammerhead: :hammerhead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTm9onQULVg

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310114013

:cheers:

[The Choken One]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTm9onQULVg

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310114013

:cheers:
Lakers 100 - Nets 88

[D12"Magic"]

Lakers 100 - Nets 88
Lopes 35 Points - Bynum 2 Points

[Nets fan 93]

Lakers 100 - Nets 88
It was to show how much "better" Bynum was.

[chazzy]

Anyone have a trade scenario that sends both Dwight and Hedo to Orlando? Brook's still on his rookie contract

[DirtySanchez]

Are Nets fans in here actually making a case that Lopez is better then Bynum? Really?

[magnax1]

Anyone have a trade scenario that sends both Dwight and Hedo to Orlando? Brook's still on his rookie contract
Nets are 17 million under the cap, so it's pretty damn easy. If they want to add Nene, or someone else, it's kind of tough but definitely possible with a third team.

[Nets fan 93]

Are Nets fans in here actually making a case that Lopez is better then Bynum? Really?
He surely isnt ">>" Lopez. That is for sure. People that dont watch him need to recognize that's all.

[greymatter]

They're not goingn to be high draft picks. Are you crazy? You think a Dwill/Dwight combo would be a bottom feeder?

If the Nets fail to finish 3rd or higher in the east, there's a very real possibility that one or both walk if they see themselves being unable to compete with Miami and Chicago (and maybe NY). Those 2 picks would suddenly start to look very good.


Both teams are willing to absorb Hedo's contract. It just makes very little sense to take the nets Deal if you were Orlando. Brooke Lopez is not a difference maker and is terrible on the boards and average at best on defense.

Brook Lopez only makes 3 million a year, has never missed a game, and still has plenty of room for growth. Bynum has had a torn ACL, MCL, meniscus, and dislocated knee and isn't even 25. He's a Bill Walton (injury wise, not talent) waiting to happen.

[brownmamba00]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTm9onQULVg

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=310114013

:cheers:
You can post all the vids you want but Otis doesn't want his soft ass lol

[MMM]

Are Nets fans in here actually making a case that Lopez is better then Bynum? Really?

Bynum might be better but it is not by much. With that being said Orl might just want to take the player with less baggage

[R.I.P.]

Howard maintains his decision was multifaceted and came down to feeling he didn't have an ideal situation to pursue an NBA title.

Specifically, Howard said overall he didn't feel satisfied with the talent around him and he would like to have the kind of personnel input he said Dallas star Dirk Nowitzki enjoys.

"If Dirk told (Dallas owner) Mark (Cuban) 'Hey, I think this is the direction our team is going, this is what we need in the locker room and these are the kind of players we need,' I think Mark would listen," Howard said. "That doesn't mean Mark has to say, OK, we'll make a rash decision. But I think he would listen and really found out what the player needs around him in order to win."
---------------------------------------
Just suck it up one more year, superman. Then you can sign with the Mavs as a FA. Play for the puppetmaster Cuban with Dirk and Deron. :rockon:
You wanna play for an owner that paid Outlaw 35 million and offered Nene 70 million.

[niko]

Bynum has the better contract too. I know people are going to yell, but he does. You need to sign Lopez after this season, he's going to command 4 years at $14M. He goes from eminently tradeable to not so tradeable. Bynum of course has a shorter deal.

[madmax]

Dwight landing in NJ would be the best news for NBA and it's image...he would make them instant contenders in the East and would battle Miami for the spot in NBA finals:applause: :cheers:

[Yung D-Will]

Lopez is the better offensive player
Bynum better defender
Bynum better rebounder

[ZHAKIDD532]

Bynum has the better contract too. I know people are going to yell, but he does. You need to sign Lopez after this season, he's going to command 4 years at $14M. He goes from eminently tradeable to not so tradeable. Bynum of course has a shorter deal.
He's going to be making more than Lopez either way, I don't think there's any circumstance where Lopez makes $15 million + per year, which Bynum is making. And if they want to keep him, it'll cost more than that.

I honestly wouldn't trade for Bynum. His knee injuries scare the crap out of me, not to mention he enjoys body slamming defenseless point guards in his free time.

[Doranku]

Lopez is the better offensive player
Bynum better defender
Bynum better rebounder

Even this is debatable if you're considering both of them having the opportunity to play with Deron Williams as their PG.

[Nash]

Deron did wonder to Carlos Boozer, I wonder what he'll do for Howard and Nene's game. Damn, love D-Will. So glad for him.

[niko]

He's going to be making more than Lopez either way, I don't think there's any circumstance where Lopez makes $15 million + per year, which Bynum is making. And if they want to keep him, it'll cost more than that.

I honestly wouldn't trade for Bynum. His knee injuries scare the crap out of me, not to mention he enjoys body slamming defenseless point guards in his free time.
Lopez is going to get max years for max dollars. People are saying how great he is but at the same time he's not getting max dollars? Really? After he gets traded for D12? He's going to ask for max and he's going to get it if he's the centerpiece of a howard deal. 100%.

[Yung D-Will]

Even this is debatable if you're considering both of them having the opportunity to play with Deron Williams as their PG.

I wasn't even talking about last season...

[ZHAKIDD532]

Lopez is going to get max years for max dollars. People are saying how great he is but at the same time he's not getting max dollars? Really? After he gets traded for D12? He's going to ask for max and he's going to get it if he's the centerpiece of a howard deal. 100%.
OK. But his max money is probably going to be less than $15M per, and if they want to keep Bynum long term (and you'd think they would if they're trading Dwight for him), he's going to cost way more money. And have crazy knee problems.

[Yung D-Will]

Deron did wonder to Carlos Boozer, I wonder what he'll do for Howard and Nene's game. Damn, love D-Will. So glad for him.
You don't know the half of it. Creating this smokescreen that Boozer is actually a dominant post player

[Glide2keva]

And they say Bulls fans overrate their players :rolleyes:

Bynum is so overrated it's not even funny.

When has he ever played a full season? He can't stay on the floor and when he IS on the floor, he's doing stupid shit to get himself suspended for the first five games of this season.

I can't see why anyone wouldn't want this guy :rolleyes:

[niko]

OK. But his max money is probably going to be less than $15M per, and if they want to keep Bynum long term (and you'd think they would if they're trading Dwight for him), he's going to cost way more money. And have crazy knee problems.
I didn't say Bynum had a good contract, just that it's shorter. People keep saying Lopez earns $3M like it's this great thing. It is this year but it's not staying like that.

[ZHAKIDD532]

I didn't say Bynum had a good contract, just that it's shorter. People keep saying Lopez earns $3M like it's this great thing. It is this year but it's not staying like that.
Fair enough. But signing a new contract at some point doesn't put him in a disadvantage in the contract department with Bynum. It's actually not a scary proposition to give Lopez 4/5 years (depending on if/when he's traded, the Magic can only give him 4 years), as apposed to Bynum, who they could sign long term and he has an uncomfortably high chance of blowing out his knee the next day.

[PejaNowitzki]

Lopez is the better offensive player
Bynum better defender
Bynum better rebounder



Kinda hard to defend and rebound when your ass is in street clothes for half the season. That's the trouble with Bynum, he could go Brandon Roy mode literally anytime, he's a perpetual injury waiting to happen.

[niko]

Clearly Bynum doesn't scare the Magic that much or else Orlando/NJ would be deep in negotiations right now. Or they just don't like Lopez that much (and don't like Bynum too). It has to be something like that.

For net fans i'd say be patient. This could work out, in 2 months. Or it could fall apart and you be distraught and then BAM - midseason comes, a star becomes available and you are the only team sitting holding assets...

[Yung D-Will]

In the long run I'd make a long term investment in Lopez much quicker than I would in Bynum just for health reasons

[brownmamba00]

Dwight landing in NJ would be the best news for NBA and it's image...he would make them instant contenders in the East and would battle Miami for the spot in NBA finals:applause: :cheers:
The Heat, The Knicks, The Bulls are still better then Brooklyn (even with DHO)

[ZHAKIDD532]

The Heat, The Knicks, The Bulls are still better then Brooklyn (even with DHO)
That, my friend, is a completely different conversation for a completely different day.

[ZHAKIDD532]

Clearly Bynum doesn't scare the Magic that much or else Orlando/NJ would be deep in negotiations right now. Or they just don't like Lopez that much (and don't like Bynum too). It has to be something like that.

For net fans i'd say be patient. This could work out, in 2 months. Or it could fall apart and you be distraught and then BAM - midseason comes, a star becomes available and you are the only team sitting holding assets...
Yeah we've been left holding the bad many times. I just wish Howard would get traded already so we know one way or the other. I don't want to deal with the Melo-like crap all over again. So annoying.

If it doesn't work out, as I've said repeatedly, I really like Lopez. He played tons better next to Deron Williams after the trade, and could definitely be a strong 3rd best player on a championship team.

[niko]

Yeah we've been left holding the bad many times. I just wish Howard would get traded already so we know one way or the other. I don't want to deal with the Melo-like crap all over again. So annoying.

If it doesn't work out, as I've said repeatedly, I really like Lopez. He played tons better next to Deron Williams after the trade, and could definitely be a strong 3rd best player on a championship team.
Howard or no Howard the nets are fine UNLESS they do huge Nene/Crawford contracts or something like that, something that locks them into above average with no chance to be great. They really need to be patient. I know they want to show Deron they are making moves, but someone like Crawford at $9M per (and i bring him up as they are speaking to him) strikes me as a panic move that could hurt them.

[ZHAKIDD532]

Howard or no Howard the nets are fine UNLESS they do huge Nene/Crawford contracts or something like that, something that locks them into above average with no chance to be great. They really need to be patient. I know they want to show Deron they are making moves, but someone like Crawford at $9M per (and i bring him up as they are speaking to him) strikes me as a panic move that could hurt them.
Yeah free agent class is going to be way better next year, not to mention if they don't trade them they have 2 picks in a really deep draft next year. Still don't understand why someone would want to pay Nene $15M/year, that's a rip off. Knicks made a similar deal with Chandler, but he filled a huge need for them.

[niko]

Yeah free agent class is going to be way better next year, not to mention if they don't trade them they have 2 picks in a really deep draft next year. Still don't understand why someone would want to pay Nene $15M/year, that's a rip off. Knicks made a similar deal with Chandler, but he filled a huge need for them.
I think Nets are putting that out there to the agent of Howard saying, hey, if we don't get Howard, we want Nene, we help you, you help us. I honestly could seem them pulling that off the table if Howard doesn't come. At least i hope that is their thinking.

[Nets fan 93]

Even this is debatable if you're considering both of them having the opportunity to play with Deron Williams as their PG.
Brook played 12 games outta 82 with Deron. 12!!!!