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e-LIMON-ators
12-12-2011, 03:02 AM
He could have gotten 5 yrs. $100 million plus. Surprised he took less money. Props to him though for doing it.

chairman
12-12-2011, 03:05 AM
He could have gotten 5 yrs. $100 million plus. Surprised he took less money. Props to him though for doing it.
Source?

e-LIMON-ators
12-12-2011, 03:07 AM
https://twitter.com/#!/Bulls_101/statuses/146102191416025088

Haymaker
12-12-2011, 03:09 AM
He's very good, and the sky is the limit. But...it's his fourth year FFS. MJ didn't made that kind of money until long after. That's the kind of contract that cripples your ability to hire good talent around a star player. IE Kevin Garnett.

FourthTenor
12-12-2011, 03:11 AM
How come people pronounce Dwayne Wade's name as "Da-Wayne" and Dwight Howard's name as "Da-White" but.... nobody ever says Da-Errick Rose"?

What da drilly wit dat?

themurph
12-12-2011, 03:12 AM
He's very good, and the sky is the limit. But...it's his fourth year FFS. MJ didn't made that kind of money until long after. That's the kind of contract that cripples your ability to hire good talent around a star player. IE Kevin Garnett.


Nah...That's a good contract for him and the Bulls...It won't cripple them...

If anything, Boozer's contract will be an issue in the future...But the Bulls are in a good position...One good (not great) shooting guard away from winning it all...

That's nothing like KG's position at Minn....

entropy35
12-12-2011, 03:13 AM
I don't think that's a very reliable source.

SAKOTXA
12-12-2011, 03:13 AM
He's very good, and the sky is the limit. But...it's his fourth year FFS. MJ didn't made that kind of money until long after. That's the kind of contract that cripples your ability to hire good talent around a star player. IE Kevin Garnett.
Really, this argument has no ground.

1 million back in the 80s and early 90s is equipment of 12-13 million nowadays.

The price of gas was under 1 dollar at one point for god's sake.

Not to mention the differences in salary caps and how current owners are way richer businessmen.

themurph
12-12-2011, 03:16 AM
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Haymaker
12-12-2011, 03:18 AM
Really, this argument has no ground.

1 million back in the 80s and early 90s is equipment of 12-13 million nowadays.

The price of gas was under 1 dollar at one point for god's sake.

Not to mention the differences in salary caps and how current owners are way richer businessmen.

1984-85 - $550,000
1985-86 - $630,000
1986-87 - $737,500
1987-88 - $845,000

Even if you adjust for inflation it doesn't comes close.

themurph
12-12-2011, 03:20 AM
1984-85 - $550,000
1985-86 - $630,000
1986-87 - $737,500
1987-88 - $845,000

Even if you adjust for inflation it doesn't comes close.


MJ (and other stars during that era) didn't start getting paid mega money until the '90s...What's your point?

Haymaker
12-12-2011, 03:22 AM
MJ (and other stars during that era) didn't start getting paid mega money until the '90s...What's your point?

My point is that 20+ millions is too much for a player with only 3 years under his belt.

Haymaker
12-12-2011, 03:23 AM
And don't get me wrong, I love the Bulls. They're my fav. team from the east and Rose is class act.

ballsohard247
12-12-2011, 03:25 AM
My point is that 20+ millions is too much for a player with only 3 years under his belt.
That is a lot of money, but when Tyson freakin Chandler gets 10 mil a year Rose better get 20 plus.

stallionaire
12-12-2011, 03:26 AM
How come people pronounce Dwayne Wade's name as "Da-Wayne" and Dwight Howard's name as "Da-White" but.... nobody ever says Da-Errick Rose"?

What da drilly wit dat?

I lost my shit after reading this.

:roll:

themurph
12-12-2011, 03:27 AM
My point is that 20+ millions is too much for a player with only 3 years under his belt.


When said 3 year player has already made first team all-star and has won MVP, you don't mess around...Rose is the franchise...He gets franchise money...

Rowe
12-12-2011, 03:28 AM
My point is that 20+ millions is too much for a player with only 3 years under his belt.
Not at all.

Derrick Rose is a superstar and worth every bit of it. His value to the Chicago Bulls for what he will bring in added revenue, endorsements, etc pales in comparison to his actual contract.

Chicago has been dying for a superstar since Jordan retired 14 years ago. The entire city of Chicago itself has been dying for a superstar to be proud of just as long considering Sammy Sosa towards the end of his time in Chicago became "tainted".

Chicago is a major media market & Rose brings in major revenue.

The Bulls are back because of him.

bullsfan
12-12-2011, 03:29 AM
My point is that 20+ millions is too much for a player with only 3 years under his belt.
where are you getting 20+ million its a 5yr 94 million so it equals 18.8 million a yr

Haymaker
12-12-2011, 03:30 AM
Not at all.

Derrick Rose is a superstar and worth every bit of it. His value to the Chicago Bulls for what he will bring in added revenue, endorsements, etc pales in comparison to his actual contract.

Chicago has been dying for a superstar since Jordan retired 14 years ago. The entire city of Chicago itself has been dying for a superstar to be proud of just as long considering Sammy Sosa towards the end of his time in Chicago became "tainted".

Chicago is a major media market & Rose brings in major revenue.

The Bulls are back because of him.

You may be right. I hope they manage their other contracts wisely.

Sarcastic
12-12-2011, 03:31 AM
1984-85 - $550,000
1985-86 - $630,000
1986-87 - $737,500
1987-88 - $845,000

Even if you adjust for inflation it doesn't comes close.

The NBA was a multi-million dollar business back then. Now it's a multi-billion dollar business.

bluechox2
12-12-2011, 03:31 AM
it should start off around 16 and get raises each year after

bullsfan
12-12-2011, 03:32 AM
and Tyson Chandler is getting paid 4yr 58 million meaning 14.5 million a year so I dont think paying Rose at 18.8 is over paying

DuMa
12-12-2011, 03:38 AM
Im not comparing the two players and obviously Rose is not gonna go down the same path as him but this sort of reminds me of the time Arenas signed max extension with the Wizards for 'less money'

I'm just saying its a lot of money for a PG who relies a lot on his athleticism.

(e)
12-12-2011, 03:39 AM
Worth it. Definitely not overpaid in terms of his value to the team and what other contracts are being signed around the league.

gyu
12-12-2011, 03:44 AM
Not really surprised, typical 'superstar' money.

On a side note: Some of you guys have a weird way of thinking, just because someone else gets overpaid doesn't make it okay to overpay another guy.

9512
12-12-2011, 08:24 AM
How come people pronounce Dwayne Wade's name as "Da-Wayne" and Dwight Howard's name as "Da-White" but.... nobody ever says Da-Errick Rose"?

What da drilly wit dat?

I too heard those names pronounced like that. Must be the southern drawl.:confusedshrug:

Rnbizzle
12-12-2011, 08:51 AM
Could he have gotten more?

Nash
12-12-2011, 08:56 AM
Dude gets more money than Lebron and Wade, right?

Rnbizzle
12-12-2011, 08:58 AM
I think Lebron got 110 in 6 years..

Real Men Wear Green
12-12-2011, 09:06 AM
He's very good, and the sky is the limit. But...it's his fourth year FFS. MJ didn't made that kind of money until long after. That's the kind of contract that cripples your ability to hire good talent around a star player. IE Kevin Garnett.
He won the MVP award. If you win the MVP award then your team has to pay you whatever it takes, it's that simple. MJ would have been paid much more much earlier but he had a long-term contract that was signed before contracts started to explode. And lastly, who wins a Championship that doesn't have a maxed-out player? If not several? Look at LA with Shaq and Kobe on the threepeat and then again with Bryant on a repeat. Celts won a title with three maxed guys. Minnie failed with KG because Starbury bailed and then McHale monumentaly screwed up with the illegal Joe Smith contract. Stern punished them by taking away something like 5 draft picks, hampering the team throughout Garnett's prime. I can't tell you how/who the Bulls can bring in to take them over the top but if they have a good front office they'll find a way.

I.R.Beast
12-12-2011, 09:08 AM
How come people pronounce Dwayne Wade's name as "Da-Wayne" and Dwight Howard's name as "Da-White" but.... nobody ever says Da-Errick Rose"?

What da drilly wit dat?


i hate that who Da-Wayne and Da-Wight BS....it's very annoying.

LemonMan
12-12-2011, 09:11 AM
How come people pronounce Dwayne Wade's name as "Da-Wayne" and Dwight Howard's name as "Da-White" but.... nobody ever says Da-Errick Rose"?

What da drilly wit dat?
Repped for almost killing me because of how much i laughed :roll:

bigt
12-12-2011, 09:12 AM
Kudos to him for not taking the absolute maximum that he could of. Logical move for both Chi-town and Rose. It may only be his fourth year, but that's the nature of the NBA in this day and age. Plus it's clearly his team, a future potential championship team. He's going to be earning it (from a basketball perspective at least)

Real Men Wear Green
12-12-2011, 09:16 AM
Kudos to him for not taking the absolute maximum that he could of. Logical move for both Chi-town and Rose. It may only be his fourth year, but that's the nature of the NBA in this day and age. Plus it's clearly his team, a future potential championship team. He's going to be earning it (from a basketball perspective at least)
Now that I'm not sure is so important. What's that mean, about 1.2 mil per year? Is that sum of money going to lead to Chi signing Howard in the offseason? I doubt that.

Rnbizzle
12-12-2011, 09:21 AM
Now that I'm not sure is so important. What's that mean, about 1.2 mil per year? Is that sum of money going to lead to Chi signing Howard in the offseason? I doubt that.
It's enough to keep Keith Bogans there though.

bagelred
12-12-2011, 09:54 AM
He gave up $6 million......for basketball reasons.

nathanjizzle
12-12-2011, 10:00 AM
i hope the money doesnt put too much pressure on him to perform and produce.

PyrrhusX
12-12-2011, 10:28 AM
My only hope is Westbrook does not expect this much :facepalm
I think DRose is getting paid more than KD.

Still, it had to be done.:applause:

Funnyfuka
12-12-2011, 10:31 AM
all he needs now is that boozer gets traded for a real good player :lol

KelticForce1349
12-12-2011, 11:41 AM
Yes! I am so glad Derrick has a contract that will keep him with the Bulls and out of the rumor-mill like CP3 and D. Howard. It's hard for me as a Bulls fan to watch guys like Lebron and Carmelo screw their teams over, I couldn't stand to watch it happen to my favorite team.

Now we just need to keep The TAJinater and Asik.

Real Men Wear Green
12-12-2011, 11:49 AM
Yes! I am so glad Derrick has a contract that will keep him with the Bulls and out of the rumor-mill like CP3 and D. Howard. It's hard for me as a Bulls fan to watch guys like Lebron and Carmelo screw their teams over, I couldn't stand to watch it happen to my favorite team.

Now we just need to keep The TAJinater and Asik.
His statements make it sound like he's a Bull for life but to be fair to these other guys this is also the difference between a restricted free agent and an unrestricted free agent. If he's in a position like Paul's in 4 years probably having been repeatedly knocked out of the postseason by Miami a number of times, now how does he feel about superstars joining up?

step_back
12-12-2011, 12:40 PM
The best signing the Bulls have made for the last 14 years. We just need to sort out that Boozer contract now:facepalm

pegasus
12-12-2011, 12:53 PM
Great signing!:applause: Hopefully, Rip and Crawford (s+t) are next.

I think we need to give Boozer another chance. There are not many quality PF's out there.

KelticForce1349
12-12-2011, 02:08 PM
His statements make it sound like he's a Bull for life but to be fair to these other guys this is also the difference between a restricted free agent and an unrestricted free agent. If he's in a position like Paul's in 4 years probably having been repeatedly knocked out of the postseason by Miami a number of times, now how does he feel about superstars joining up?

You raise some valid points but I personally believe Derrick has more character than those other guys. I think D. Rose is a player with a game built for the current league, but his heart/brain seems to be that of a throwback to a different era of Basketball.

If Derrick does find himself coming up short to Miami or another franchise each year I believe he will get more aggressive in recruiting another top player to join him in Chicago. I have not seen anything from Rose that tells me he will bolt and run when times get "too hard."

O_City_Thunder
12-12-2011, 02:23 PM
My only hope is Westbrook does not expect this much :facepalm
I think DRose is getting paid more than KD.

Still, it had to be done.:applause:
He probably will :hammerhead:

Pointguard
12-12-2011, 03:00 PM
The best signing the Bulls have made for the last 14 years. We just need to sort out that Boozer contract now:facepalm

I say give him a chance. But I'm not against amnestizing him in the middle of the playoffs - halftime in fact, for dramatic affect, if he doesn't get it together.

GOBB
12-12-2011, 03:20 PM
Bulls overpaid. Shouldve waited. He might suck next year. punked much? white txt >>>> u

Kevin_Gamble
12-12-2011, 03:20 PM
I say give him a chance. But I'm not against amnestizing him in the middle of the playoffs - halftime in fact, for dramatic affect, if he doesn't get it together.

Yeah, pay him his full salary to walk away. Hit him where it hurts.

pegasus
12-12-2011, 03:31 PM
I say give him a chance. But I'm not against amnestizing him in the middle of the playoffs - halftime in fact, for dramatic affect, if he doesn't get it together.

You can't "amnestize" (unless you mean pouring boiling water on him) anyone after December 16th.

Pointguard
12-12-2011, 04:04 PM
You can't "amnestize" (unless you mean pouring boiling water on him) anyone after December 16th.

Thanks, are you saying it can be done only this year before the preseason games start? Can it be done after the season?

I was only joking before but I am curious as to how it works.

Pointguard
12-12-2011, 04:08 PM
Yeah, pay him his full salary to walk away. Hit him where it hurts.

I wasn't serious. But it would have done me a good laugh to see him anesthetized during a timeout or after he forgot, yet, one more play.