How Miami's Big 3 got bigger, more athletic in the offseason

[thejumpa]

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/10513/how-wade-big-three-stayed-big-in-lockout

[QUOTE=ESPN.com]
MIAMI -- Tucked away on a one-way street in a small industrial area of South Miami, in between construction companies and electrical supply stores, lies TERF Athletic Facility, an elite training ground for personalized sports fitness programs that specialize in core development.

Its founder, Ed Downs, a U.S. Martial Arts Hall of Fame inductee who has previously worked with Navy Seals, wanted his gym to be unassuming to shed his celebrity clients from public attention. In the past, Downs, a trainer to the pros for more than 20 years, has consulted with NBA, NFL and MLB stars including Alonzo Mourning, Carlos Boozer, Alex Rodriquez, Baron Davis, LaMarr Woodley, Tim Hardaway, Jamal Mashburn and Penny Hardaway.

But when Downs opened TERF on Oct. 4, he never imagined just a month later that sports

[Euroleague]

So they used even more PEDs......big deal.

[thejumpa]

If LeBron is at 265 and regains some of that lateral movement and explosiveness he had a couple years ago, Miami will dominate. Having Wade coming in supposedly revamping his game and getting stronger and I'm super excited to see how they play in year 2. Having Bosh bulk up and apparently willing to play more 5 this season and you have a Heat trio that really wants it. If anything, it's good to see these guys addressing their conditioning and exploring ways to stay ahead of the competition physically.

Vid of Wade training with Ed Downs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRCVIEGVlzo

[PJR]

Just hope the brand of ball they play is a little more crisp. Spoelstra should implement some more triangle.

[Nash]

If LeBron is at 265 and regains some of that lateral movement and explosiveness he had a couple years ago, Miami will dominate. Having Wade coming in supposedly revamping his game and getting stronger and I'm super excited to see how they play in year 2. Having Bosh bulk up and apparently willing to play more 5 this season and you have a Heat trio that really wants it. If anything, it's good to see these guys addressing their conditioning and exploring ways to stay ahead of the competition physically.

Vid of Wade training with Ed Downs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRCVIEGVlzo
Nice vid, what song is that? I know its Jay Z but which song?

[thejumpa]

Nice vid, what song is that? I know its Jay Z but which song?

Jay-Z - "History"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfNIhvd8KIg

I had never even heard of that song.

[Burgz]

Ed Downs is JACKED

[The_Yearning]

I have a hard time believing their BF%. All of these clowns have a protruding gut.

[thejumpa]

Who cares what the exact BF%. Point is they are lean as hell and in better shape than they were in last year. And yeah, that dude Ed Downs is ripped.

[Nash]

Jay-Z - "History"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfNIhvd8KIg

I had never even heard of that song.
Thank you my man. Great song.

[AngelEyes]

Is Dwyane Wade really 231 lbs? Holy hell!

[Euroleague]

I have a hard time believing their BF%. All of these clowns have a protruding gut.

It's called PED water gut and is caused by massive amounts of water gain due to taking PEDs. Your body fat can be extremely low and you will still have this gut, since you are taking massive amounts of HGH.

I thought this was common knowledge?

[Euroleague]

Is Dwyane Wade really 231 lbs? Holy hell!

He's either 6-3 or 6-4 barefoot with about a 6-11 to 7-0 wingspan. Believe it or not, 231 pounds is pretty damn small for that sized body frame.

[9erEmpire]

It's called PED water gut and is caused by massive amounts of water gain due to taking PEDs. Your body fat can be extremely low and you will still have this gut, since you are taking massive amounts of HGH.

I thought this was common knowledge?

yep.

no many have common sense on here.

Examples of PED gut...the man has a six pack but his stomach sticks out.
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcThX_YbYVtKCwB1deel5H2bOhC7HI0UI 0-Nh1tMxmHDMfe_lSTUEaFZWyB0

[LeFraud James]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/ap/01/fullj.9acc6e1717173c0bd993cda2067e78da/ap-201112121509545992001.jpg

LeBron: "And then Dwyane told me his d*ck used to be this big before he started taking HGH."

[LA_Showtime]

God exercise physiologists are retarded. LOL @ 3.5% body fat or whatever the hell they said Wade was at. Yeah right.

[ballsohard247]

It's called PED water gut and is caused by massive amounts of water gain due to taking PEDs. Your body fat can be extremely low and you will still have this gut, since you are taking massive amounts of HGH.

I thought this was common knowledge?
What you are referring to is "roidgut." HGH causes your internal organs to grow, specifically the intestines. Really disgusting and irreversable.

[G-train]

He's either 6-3 or 6-4 barefoot with about a 6-11 to 7-0 wingspan. Believe it or not, 231 pounds is pretty damn small for that sized body frame.

No it's not small for that sized frame. It is large for that sized frame. Not huge, but far above average and large for that frame.

I'm 6'6 or about 6'5 and a half bare foot and weigh 230 pounds. My wingspan is 6'8 (I'm white). I am a big person, and wade is 2-3 inches shorter. Wade is a large person, not "pretty damn small for that frame".

[Euroleague]

What you are referring to is "roidgut." HGH causes your internal organs to grow, specifically the intestines. Really disgusting and irreversable.

HGH causes your organs to grow, but it, along with other PEDs also cause a lot of water gain.

You can actually have low body fat, a ripped stomach, and not have organs that are over-sized due to PED use and still have that bloated stomach.

because it causes water gain to the abdomen.

One way or the other, when you see these guys with defined stomachs, and they look like they work out and all of that, yet they have that gut..........it means they do use PEDs of several different types probably.

Of course, most NBA fans are so delusional that they will argue and deny this. Even though it's just a simple physiological fact. T-Mac is one of the most obvious NBA players that has this actually.

[Euroleague]

No it's not small for that sized frame. It is large for that sized frame. Not huge, but far above average and large for that frame.

I'm 6'6 or about 6'5 and a half bare foot and weigh 230 pounds. My wingspan is 6'8 (I'm white). I am a big person, and wade is 2-3 inches shorter. Wade is a large person, not "pretty damn small for that frame".

Well, people say I am "small", even "skinny" and I'm 217 at 6-1 barefoot with a 6-1 wingspan.

So yeah, 231 seems pretty damn small to me for his size frame.

[mentallooser]

Honestly, no matter how good of shape they are in, if they haven't improved playing off the ball I don't see how the team will improve all that much.

[DuMa]

Wade's head has to be at least 35 pounds itself.

[Sarcastic]

Wade's head has to be at least 35 pounds itself.

His jaw is 30 alone.

[stephanieg]

Wade is at 3.5% BF? Is it all in his cheeks?

[ballsohard247]

His jaw is 30 alone.
:lol It was only a matter of time.

[Euroleague]

His jaw is 30 alone.


After every off season his jaw looks like 5% bigger.............

[step_back]

No way is Wade 3.5% body fat. That's BS. Trainers just like to hype up stats. Some of the best body builders in the world struggle to get that low.

[TonyJones]

3.5% body fat? LOL Those are Rocky IV "show body" numbers. I doubt an athlete could maintain rigorous and demanding cardio at that body fat percentage. Body builders go on insane diets to get their body fat that low and its only meant for "show time" to impress judges.

[Tha Catalyst]

No way is Wade 3.5% body fat. That's BS. Trainers just like to hype up stats. Some of the best body builders in the world struggle to get that low.
Truth. Both Wade's and Lebron's bf% are listed wayyy too low. Along with Amare saying he is 2%. It's unbelievable these professional athletes and professional trainers have no idea about bf%. Wade/Lebron and Amare would all be closer to 8 percent bodyfat, which is still low for an athlete in an aerobic sport.

[knightfall88]

Truth. Both Wade's and Lebron's bf% are listed wayyy too low. Along with Amare saying he is 2%. It's unbelievable these professional athletes and professional trainers have no idea about bf%. Wade/Lebron and Amare would all be closer to 8 percent bodyfat, which is still low for an athlete in an aerobic sport.

I doubt they are less than 10

[LA_Showtime]

I'd put those guys at anywhere between 10-13%. LOL @ 3.5%.

[JChurches]

I'd put those guys at anywhere between 10-13%. LOL @ 3.5%.

You and "euroleague" are neck and neck for the "dumbest poster" crown. Wade and Lebron are probably somewhere in the vicinity of 5% body fat.

Euroleague, leave the pathophysiology discussions to us MD students/doctors.

[The_Yearning]

You and "euroleague" are neck and neck for the "dumbest poster" crown. Wade and Lebron are probably somewhere in the vicinity of 5% body fat.

Euroleague, leave the pathophysiology discussions to us MD students/doctors.

Lmao no. Google Greg Plitt. That guy is confirmed 6%. Lol at 3.5%... not even the Greek Gods are that low.

[sixer6ad]

Is their pre-season Championship Party this Friday or next? Last year's was cool.

[Meticode]

Wow, so many people care about body fat percentages. :confusedshrug:

[abuC]

You and "euroleague" are neck and neck for the "dumbest poster" crown. Wade and Lebron are probably somewhere in the vicinity of 5% body fat.

Euroleague, leave the pathophysiology discussions to us MD students/doctors.


Body builders get down to around 3-5% for competitions, and they are walking around damn near dehydrated to do so. Anyone that works out knows those body fat numbers are utter B.S.

[LA_Showtime]

You and "euroleague" are neck and neck for the "dumbest poster" crown. Wade and Lebron are probably somewhere in the vicinity of 5% body fat.

Euroleague, leave the pathophysiology discussions to us MD students/doctors.

And you're an ignorant idiot. I'm not even going to bother trying to convince you otherwise. I suggest you actually research body fat percentages before acting like you know everything, though.

[Meticode]

You and "euroleague" are neck and neck for the "dumbest poster" crown. Wade and Lebron are probably somewhere in the vicinity of 5% body fat.

Euroleague, leave the pathophysiology discussions to us MD students/doctors.
You have to be pretty freakin' ripped to be 3.5%. LeBron being at 5.0% is even a joke. I'm sure they're more along the lines of the higher single digits at least.

[305Baller]

bla bla to this bull.

prove it on the court.

:blah

[JChurches]

And you're an ignorant idiot. I'm not even going to bother trying to convince you otherwise. I suggest you actually research body fat percentages before acting like you know everything, though.


OK, if you are so credentialed where did you get your medical degree from? I see patients every single day- many of them athletes (espcially while I'm on my sports medicine rotation). These guys (the big 3) are sub 7% at a minimum. Bodybuilders are not dehydrated the day of their show due to an abnormally low body fat percentage. They compete in a "physique sport" not a "performance sport" therefore they use diuretics to enhance the APPEARANCE of their physique on stage. Again, please leave the physiology/pathophys discussions to those of us who have invested a great deal of our lives to studying the human body.

[inclinerator]

more like 8-10 percent

[PistonsFan#21]

Lebron and Wade being anywhere near 5% is a big joke.


http://lh4.ggpht.com/_x9ocxMqEmSI/TEYWEuejbNI/AAAAAAAAITM/wgJMJXVmb6M/lebron-james-shirtless-beach-savannah-brinson-09.jpg
Lebron is above 10% most likely. somewhere between 10-12%

[Bandito]

Is their pre-season Championship Party this Friday or next? Last year's was cool.
:lol

[Meticode]

OK, if you are so credentialed where did you get your medical degree from? I see patients every single day- many of them athletes (espcially while I'm on my sports medicine rotation). These guys (the big 3) are sub 7% at a minimum. Bodybuilders are not dehydrated the day of their show due to an abnormally low body fat percentage. They compete in a "physique sport" not a "performance sport" therefore they use diuretics to enhance the APPEARANCE of their physique on stage. Again, please leave the physiology/pathophys discussions to those of us who have invested a great deal of our lives to studying the human body.
Are you a doctor? MA? Nurse?

[JChurches]

MD in 1.5 years :)

[Meticode]

MD in 1.5 years :)
Well, I'm going to disagree with you still. I don't think they're anywhere near 5%. I think they're in the higher single digits or the lower double-digits.

[therammingman]

dude trained baron davis....nuff said.

[PistonsFan#21]

OK, if you are so credentialed where did you get your medical degree from? I see patients every single day- many of them athletes (espcially while I'm on my sports medicine rotation). These guys (the big 3) are sub 7% at a minimum. Bodybuilders are not dehydrated the day of their show due to an abnormally low body fat percentage. They compete in a "physique sport" not a "performance sport" therefore they use diuretics to enhance the APPEARANCE of their physique on stage. Again, please leave the physiology/pathophys discussions to those of us who have invested a great deal of our lives to studying the human body.

a human body has anywhere between 2 to 4% of essential fat. and Wade and Lebron aren't even the most ripped players in the league. Use your common sense.

[KenneBell]

Seeing LeBron and Wade's weight makes me wonder how Kobe at 205-210 does pretty well posting up against them. Or why they aren't all that great in the post(although I've seen good things out of Wade a few times).

[BMOGEFan]

Seeing LeBron and Wade's weight makes me wonder how Kobe at 205-210 does pretty well posting up against them. Or why they aren't all that great in the post(although I've seen good things out of Wade a few times).

fundamentals...or lack thereof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxlz_KFTVtk

The day wade and lebron are capable of doing that...they will have a post game

lebron's footwork

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfinaGlrPGw

[lilgodfather1]

You guys are missing the story here. The SF outweighs the PF by over 20 pounds.

[The_Yearning]

MD in 1.5 years :)

I'm MD in 1.5 years too and I'm on ISH during finals.

[Kornheiser]

I'm MD in 1.5 years too and I'm on ISH during finals.

http://i.imgur.com/AZMCK.png

[thejumpa]

Seeing LeBron and Wade's weight makes me wonder how Kobe at 205-210 does pretty well posting up against them. Or why they aren't all that great in the post(although I've seen good things out of Wade a few times).

FWIW....I think Kobe is closer to 220. He's gotten older and looks to have put some weight on in the last few years. Either way, the reason why he does so good in the post against bigger guys is because of his lower body strength. I remember hearing his trainer Tim Grover talking about how hard he works to keep his lower body strength up. If you can do that, then it really doesn't matter how big the defender is. You will always have a chance if you are patient and keep working it.

[thejumpa]

I don't understand why you guys are arguing about body fat. Who cares. If you are at 10% and over 200lbs, you are ripped. The numbers are probably exxagerated but damn....let's not act like they AREN'T lean as hell.

At 265 Bron HAS to start playing in the post. That's a lot of weight to keep running up and down the court with.

[HiphopRelated]

Seeing LeBron and Wade's weight makes me wonder how Kobe at 205-210 does pretty well posting up against them. Or why they aren't all that great in the post(although I've seen good things out of Wade a few times).
Kobe hasn't succeeded with any regularity against Wade in the post in years

pretty much since Wade bulked up to 220+ going into the Olympics

[LakersReign]

Lebron can work out and do all the conditioning all he wants to. But the fact of the matter is NONE of that will make one bit of difference until he decides to play Robin to Wade's Batman and learn how to post up. But....of course since he's supposedly the "great next MJ king james".....he won't.:rolleyes:

[All Net]

They have had experience of playing together now so the big 3 are going to be even more scary to defend.

[jwmann2]

You think the Mavs players aren't working out this offseason too?
There is no news here. Lebron has been playing football all fall anyway. Flag football.

[Tha Catalyst]

I don't understand why you guys are arguing about body fat. Who cares. If you are at 10% and over 200lbs, you are ripped. The numbers are probably exxagerated but damn....let's not act like they AREN'T lean as hell.

At 265 Bron HAS to start playing in the post. That's a lot of weight to keep running up and down the court with.
It's not as much the bodyfat thing as the point that the facts in the article are fictional. Why make up false facts? Or why has this professional trainer got no grasp of bodyfat %? I generally like facts in articles to be factually correct. Of course they are lean as hell, but give real figures not obviously incorrect stats.

[MichaelCheazley]

Yes obviously they have had more time to workout and played longer into the season.So they're in better shape. Last season they spent most of their summer traveling as opposed to working out due to free agency. Bosh's season ended early and had his face smashed in preventing him from working out resulting in him having to play himself into shape and losing muscle. Dwyane wade's season ended in the 1st round also and he tends to peak mid season anyways while playing himself into shape 1st month ish. Lebron spent the most time travelling around as he was the most coveted FA. I have no doubt they will come in this time with more focus, awe and will be in better shape thus improving previously built chemistry. I can't wait.

[pauk]

6'9" - 265 lbs with only 5% bodyfat (even less than his rookie/sophomore year)

bwahhahaha

http://marvelfan.blogg.se/images/2011/the-hulk-1_163356001.jpg

[MichaelCheazley]

6'9" - 265 lbs with only 5% bodyfat (even less than his rookie/sophomore year)

bwahhahaha
He should lose some muscle weight. Its not good for long term to be doing what he does at that weight. And it will make him faster than he is already. Hes no post player.

[pauk]

He should lose some muscle weight. Its not good for long term to be doing what he does at that weight. And it will make him faster than he is already. Hes no post player.

for anybody else.. yes.. i would agree... but for Lebron he can afford it imo... with that size he can move better than anybody in NBA history could at that size... plus he is now officially finetuning his post game and is ready to implement it very much and perfect it over the course of the games... it will all be good!

if he drops some muscles to like 240 lbs that would make him even more quicker but i dont see how that would help him so much unless he decides to officially play Point-Guard or something.....

[MichaelCheazley]

for anybody else.. yes.. i would agree... but for Lebron he can afford it imo... with that size he can move better than anybody in NBA history could at that size...

if he drops some muscles to like 240 lbs that would make him even more quicker but i dont see how that would help him so much unless he decides to play Point-Guard or something.....
Well if he can blow past people more it would help. Also if he can play pg and battier is started then that leaves the HEAT with only 1 weak position.

[donald_trump]

I'd put those guys at anywhere between 10-13%. LOL @ 3.5%.

are you retarded. :oldlol:

wade was measured at 6.7% bodyfat coming into the league. these are official statistics. :oldlol:
he's only added muscle mass since he's came in and looks leaner. lol at 10-13%.

[donald_trump]

I'd put those guys at anywhere between 10-13%. LOL @ 3.5%.

are you retarded. :oldlol:

wade was measured at 6.7% bodyfat coming into the league. these are official statistics. :oldlol:
he's only added muscle mass since he's came in and looks leaner. lol at 10-13%.

[Euroleague]

You and "euroleague" are neck and neck for the "dumbest poster" crown. Wade and Lebron are probably somewhere in the vicinity of 5% body fat.

Euroleague, leave the pathophysiology discussions to us MD students/doctors.

You mean leave it to the people going into the profession with the lowest IQ on average? Right.........