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niko
12-12-2011, 07:07 PM
Not NJ. Answer to come soon...

Grinder
12-12-2011, 07:07 PM
Not NJ. Answer to come soon...

It's the Clippers. Billups starting with Mo off the bench?

niko
12-12-2011, 07:09 PM
BTW, if anyone cares (and no one probably does but ill say it anyway) there is a massive fire like five houses away from me.

christian1923
12-12-2011, 07:09 PM
about as far away from the knicks as possible lol

qrich
12-12-2011, 07:09 PM
It's the Clippers. Billups starting with Mo off the bench?

Would be an interesting addition and could pay dividends ala Sam Cassell a few years back.

Also, what are the restrictions if a team claims someone off waivers and wants to deal him?

InspiredLebowski
12-12-2011, 07:10 PM
Would be an interesting addition and could pay dividends ala Sam Cassell a few years back.

Also, what are the restrictions if a team claims someone off waivers and wants to deal him?Can't for 6 months, something like that.

AirGauge23
12-12-2011, 07:10 PM
Heat?

Can they?

thejumpa
12-12-2011, 07:10 PM
Clippers claimed him. Smart move.

qrich
12-12-2011, 07:11 PM
Chauncey Billups has been claimed off waivers by the Los Angeles Clippers, sources say


https://twitter.com/#!/WindhorstESPN/status/146365833973735424

B-B-B-B-Illups!

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:12 PM
Big Shot Billups.

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-12-2011, 07:12 PM
Can't for 6 months, something like that.
you got a source/link for that info? thought it was 90 days..

BankShot
12-12-2011, 07:12 PM
Heat?

Can they?

Since the Heat are over the salary cap, they can not place bids on Amnesty-cut players.... they can sign them as unrestricted free agents once the player clears the Waiver Period for under-cap teams

Knicks101
12-12-2011, 07:12 PM
Damn, Pick and Roll with Griffin will be deadly. Oh wait...

DirtySanchez
12-12-2011, 07:13 PM
Clippers!

So does this mean CP3 is out the door for them?

chazzy
12-12-2011, 07:13 PM
In order for them to do this, they have to either

1) Not match DJ offer sheet

2) Amnesty someone.. Mo williams or Kaman?

MeLO MvP 15
12-12-2011, 07:13 PM
Would be an interesting addition and could pay dividends ala Sam Cassell a few years back.

Also, what are the restrictions if a team claims someone off waivers and wants to deal him?
Not til July 1st, meaning never since Chauncey only has one year (not including a sign and trade I guess).

Great pick up by LAC, I couldn't be happier. I really didn't want Chauncey to go to Miami or LAL (Orlando I could've been okay with). If he bitches about this then he's the biggest phony in league history. Seriously, LAC looked like a playoff team without him... if "a player of this magnitude" is added to a playoff team, shouldn't they make the playoffs lol.

And Sterling will never waive him because it'll cost money lol. He's either gotta play there or forfeit his $14 million.

BankShot
12-12-2011, 07:13 PM
you got a source/link for that info? thought it was 90 days..

I was looking around for that info too.... I heard there were some restrictions on signing then quickly dealing them

christian1923
12-12-2011, 07:13 PM
No more cp3 i guess?

magnax1
12-12-2011, 07:13 PM
Sounds like the clippers have given up on CP3 all together then?

97 bulls
12-12-2011, 07:13 PM
BTW, if anyone cares (and no one probably does but ill say it anyway) there is a massive fire like five houses away from me.
Possibly a disgruntled and frustrated laker fans house. That just wants to end it all.

AMISTILLILL
12-12-2011, 07:14 PM
In order for them to do this, they have to either

1) Not match DJ offer sheet

2) Amnesty someone.. Mo williams or Kaman?

I'd imagine they amnesty Williams, or potentially trade Kaman as well as amnesty Williams. Clippers are loaded for bear this season... loving it. Good for them.

qrich
12-12-2011, 07:14 PM
In order for them to do this, they have to either

1) Not match DJ offer sheet

2) Amnesty someone.. Mo williams or Kaman?

I'm sure the Clips have the cap space in order to do this. If not, then dealing Kaman away or even Mo Gotti for a tpe shouldn't be overly difficult.

Not til July 1st, meaning never since Chauncey only has one year (not including a sign and trade I guess).

Great pick up by LAC, I couldn't be happier. I really didn't want Chauncey to go to Miami or LAL (Orlando I could've been okay with). If he bitches about this then he's the biggest phony in league history. Seriously, LAC looked like a playoff team without him... if "a player of this magnitude" is added to a playoff team, shouldn't they make the playoffs lol.

And Sterling will never waive him because it'll cost money lol. He's either gotta play there or forfeit his $14 million.

Didn't know, thanks for the info :cheers:

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:15 PM
Clippers can still pick up CP3. They'd just need to amnesty Mo Williams, though that'd be kind of tragic since he wants to be here.

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-12-2011, 07:15 PM
Possibly a disgruntled and frustrated laker fans house. That just wants to end it all.
lol you really thought about los angeles lakers fans after reading niko's post (who lives in NY)?:eek:

qrich
12-12-2011, 07:16 PM
Clippers can still pick up CP3. They'd just need to amnesty Mo Williams, though that'd be kind of tragic since he wants to be here.

Or use him in the trade, though I can't see the Clippers going after CP3 as much now, but can see Olshey focus more on Dwight's services if possible.

MeLO MvP 15
12-12-2011, 07:16 PM
I'm sure the Clips have the cap space in order to do this. If not, then dealing Kaman away or even Mo Gotti for a tpe shouldn't be overly difficult.
I can't see team taking Mo for just cap space or a TPE. Maybe they worked out a trade to get under the cap slightly (like Foye for nothing? although that'd probably take incentive from another team)?

I can't imagine Sterling amnestying a guy, aka paying a guy not to play for him.

DuMa
12-12-2011, 07:17 PM
puzzling move. i dont really like it

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:17 PM
Or use him in the trade, though I can't see the Clippers going after CP3 as much now, but can see Olshey focus more on Dwight's services if possible.

I'm not sure if Billups can be traded... or if anyone claimed off of amnesty waivers would work, since we don't even know what his exact cap hit against us would be.

So confused + happy right now. :oldlol:

LA_Showtime
12-12-2011, 07:18 PM
Hey Crossover, you told us Billups would sign with the Lakers. :oldlol:

qrich
12-12-2011, 07:18 PM
I can't see team taking Mo for just cap space or a TPE. Maybe they worked out a trade to get under the cap slightly (like Foye for nothing? although that'd probably take incentive from another team)?

I can't imagine Sterling amnestying a guy, aka paying a guy not to play for him.

I also hope it isn't the case with Mo being dealt away but can see it happening. With Warren, Leslie, Bledsoe, Mo, Billups, Gordon, Foye, the Clippers have a ton of guards and its going to be a tough call here, but Foye does seem like the odd man out, though I liked him on the squad.


I'm not sure if Billups can be traded... or if anyone claimed off of amnesty waivers would work, since we don't even know what his exact cap hit against us would be.

So confused + happy right now. :oldlol:

I meant Mo being used in the trade, not Big Shot.

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-12-2011, 07:18 PM
puzzling move. i dont really like it
if donald sterling is paying billups $1,000,000 for the season (while NY pays the oher 13 mill), what is so puzzling about that?

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:19 PM
Hey Crossover, you told us Billups would sign with the Lakers. :oldlol:

Crossdresser is still in hiding, man.

AMISTILLILL
12-12-2011, 07:19 PM
puzzling move. i dont really like it

How come? Simply taking the guy off the market, away from potential contender suitors, is a huge move in it's own right. If they amnesty somebody, they're still in the running for CP3. Seems like a great situation, and likely a preferred destination off waivers compared to some Billups' other potential options (Toronto, Minnesota, etc).

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-12-2011, 07:19 PM
how much do Clippers have to pay Billups?

boozehound
12-12-2011, 07:19 PM
Not NJ. Answer to come soon...
sweet. glad to hear this. cannot wait to see if he follows through

DuMa
12-12-2011, 07:20 PM
How come? Simply taking the guy off the market, away from potential contender suitors, is a huge move in it's own right. If they amnesty somebody, they're still in the running for CP3. Seems like a great situation, and likely a preferred destination off waivers compared to some Billups' other potential options (Toronto, Minnesota, etc).

it just doesnt seem the right fit with the young and upcoming clippers.

97 bulls
12-12-2011, 07:21 PM
lol you really thought about los angeles lakers fans after reading niko's post (who lives in NY)?:eek:
It was a joke. Lol

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:22 PM
how much do Clippers have to pay Billups?

Whatever amount they bid on him.

AMISTILLILL
12-12-2011, 07:22 PM
it just doesnt seem the right fit with the young and upcoming clippers.

I can sort of see that, although I think that young core could benefit from some more veteran pieces. Bringing Butler in was a great start, and Billups can be a great floor general for the team. We'll see how it pans out. It's just nice to see the Clippers doing ANYTHING, really :lol

LA_Showtime
12-12-2011, 07:22 PM
Crossdresser is still in hiding, man.

I actually think he had a "legit" source the deal just went awry. It'd be nice to know if he heard anything.

Btw I like how I got negged for that post. It was a joke.

qrich
12-12-2011, 07:22 PM
it just doesnt seem the right fit with the young and upcoming clippers.

Same was said when the Clippers traded for Cassell. I'm confident about this acquisition personally.

AMISTILLILL
12-12-2011, 07:22 PM
Hey Crossover, you told us Billups would sign with the Lakers. :oldlol:

:oldlol: :oldlol:

MeLO MvP 15
12-12-2011, 07:23 PM
Damn the Clippers got two starters with championships this off-season. Bravo. (assuming both CBs start).

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-12-2011, 07:24 PM
It was a joke. Lol
a lame one at that :cheers: you're still my man tho.

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:25 PM
Damn the Clippers got two starters with championships this off-season. Bravo. (assuming both CBs start).

Projected line-up is something like

Billups-Gordon-Butler-Griffin-Jordan

I would like to be the first of many to say

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/722892/south-park-i-just-came-500x375.jpg

Bladers
12-12-2011, 07:25 PM
I actually think he had a "legit" source the deal just went awry. It'd be nice to know if he heard anything.

Btw I like how I got negged for that post. It was a joke.

I NEGGED you...what's wrong... u mad?

dbugz
12-12-2011, 07:25 PM
Damn Clippers going to be more exciting this season. :bowdown:

I just Billups will stay healthy.

InspiredLebowski
12-12-2011, 07:25 PM
They already matched the Jordan offer right? So they need to dump someone...

LA_Showtime
12-12-2011, 07:26 PM
I NEGGED you...what's wrong... u mad?

I don't care if I get negged, but I would like to earn it.

InfiniteBaskets
12-12-2011, 07:26 PM
CP3/Billups/Mo Williams?

Amnesty Williams and have him reunite with LeBron? :D

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-12-2011, 07:26 PM
I actually think he had a "legit" source the deal just went awry. It'd be nice to know if he heard anything.

Btw I like how I got negged for that post. It was a joke.

how do you know if somebody negged u?

qrich
12-12-2011, 07:26 PM
Damn the Clippers got two starters with championships this off-season. Bravo. (assuming both CBs start).

I fully expect Billups to start and Mo Williams to have a Jason Terry/Crawford type role off the bench. Besides at the F positions, I'm liking the Clippers depth, as of now.

PG: Billups - Mo Will - Bledsoe
SG: Gordon - Foye - Warren/Leslie
SF: Butler - Gomes - Aminu
PF: Griffin - Thompkins - Cook
CE: Jordan - Kaman


They already matched the Jordan offer right? So they need to dump someone...


Don't think they officially have, but doubt that affects the cap numbers in anyway.

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:28 PM
They already matched the Jordan offer right? So they need to dump someone...

Nah, not yet. Jordan's cap hold is only $1 million. GSW offer sheet doesn't count.

That's what I'm reading on Twitter, anyway.

ZeN
12-12-2011, 07:28 PM
Loving this.. Billups along with Butler will grand the Clipps some solid veteran leadership and some playoff experience.

And regardless of what happens to Mo Williams, it allows them to have some depth and versatility.

e-LIMON-ators
12-12-2011, 07:28 PM
they renouced the rights to jamario moon and craig smith. So they can keep Mo williams and Kaman.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-12-2011, 07:28 PM
Whatever amount they bid on him.

thank you ...gave you a good reputation :)

LA_Showtime
12-12-2011, 07:28 PM
how do you know if somebody negged u?
User cp

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:29 PM
thank you ...gave you a good reputation :)

:cheers:

ballsohard247
12-12-2011, 07:29 PM
BTW, if anyone cares (and no one probably does but ill say it anyway) there is a massive fire like five houses away from me.
Damn. Hope they put that shit out.

Reverend Hoops
12-12-2011, 07:29 PM
Projected line-up is something like

Billups-Gordon-Butler-Griffin-Jordan

I would like to be the first of many to say


Same lineup as last year plus a disgruntled 35 year old PG that wanted to go to Miami. Color me unimpressed.

bagelred
12-12-2011, 07:30 PM
alanhahn Alan Hahn
Clippers just did the #Knicks a huge favor. Claiming Billups on waivers means he won't go to Miami or Orlando to help either team. #fb


Eh......I wasn't that worried.

So do Clippers get his Bird rights too? I doubt it.

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-12-2011, 07:30 PM
User cp

Thanks LA_Showtime

AMISTILLILL
12-12-2011, 07:30 PM
Same lineup as last year plus a disgruntled 35 year old PG that wanted to go to Miami. Color me unimpressed.

Weird, Butler was on the team then? :rolleyes:

LA_Showtime
12-12-2011, 07:31 PM
So is Chauncey going to be a bad guy now? :lol

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:31 PM
Same lineup as last year plus a disgruntled 35 year old PG that wanted to go to Miami. Color me unimpressed.

:facepalm

LA_Showtime
12-12-2011, 07:32 PM
So Cp3's rotting in New Orleans, David West is stuck in Indiana, Billups is a "bad guy" in LA--for the Clippers, and Odom's in Dallas. We could still get Howard... oh wait, there's a good chance he STAYS in Orlando now.

Smot Poker
12-12-2011, 07:32 PM
Same lineup as last year plus a disgruntled 35 year old PG that wanted to go to Miami. Color me unimpressed.

WRONG! Caron Butler was added too! Now the young upcoming squad have 2 vets WITH championship experience, one of them named "Big Shot". Pretty impressive to me!

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-12-2011, 07:33 PM
Eh......I wasn't that worried.

So do Clippers get his Bird rights too? I doubt it.
thought that birds right thingy getting transferred from one team to another via trades just got added to the new CBA?

Smot Poker
12-12-2011, 07:33 PM
So Cp3's rotting in New Orleans, David West is stuck in Indiana, Billups is a "bad guy" in LA--for the Clippers, and Odom's in Dallas. We could still get Howard... oh wait, there's a good chance he STAYS in Orlando now.

Can't the Clippers now make a good offer for Dwight Howard?

InspiredLebowski
12-12-2011, 07:33 PM
So Cp3's rotting in New Orleans, David West is stuck in Indiana, Billups is a "bad guy" in LA--for the Clippers, and Odom's in Dallas. We could still get Howard... oh wait, there's a good chance he STAYS in Orlando now.David West signed in Indiana as a FA. I don't think he'd consider himself "stuck" anywhere.

DuMa
12-12-2011, 07:35 PM
how much did the clippers bid?

Reverend Hoops
12-12-2011, 07:35 PM
WRONG! Caron Butler was added too! Now the young upcoming squad have 2 vets WITH championship experience, one of them named "Big Shot". Pretty impressive to me!

CHAMPIONSHIP EXPERIENCE ON THE BENCH!:roll: MIGHT AS WELL SIGN SCALABRINE!

The funny thing is Gilbert is done, but Caron isn't. I don't know if I see Caron playing 30 games this year.

AMISTILLILL
12-12-2011, 07:36 PM
CHAMPIONSHIP EXPERIENCE ON THE BENCH!:roll: MIGHT AS WELL SIGN SCALABRINE!

The funny thing is Gilbert is done, but Caron isn't. I don't know if I see Caron playing 30 games this year.

...um what?

bagelred
12-12-2011, 07:36 PM
how much did the clippers bid?

A rolex watch

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:37 PM
how much did the clippers bid?

2 Happy Meals and a season ticket to the Clippers.

PyrrhusX
12-12-2011, 07:37 PM
Starting to feel bad for CP3 now. Stern really did F*** his future :/

Smot Poker
12-12-2011, 07:38 PM
how much did the clippers bid?

An autographed Keith Closs jersey!

DuMa
12-12-2011, 07:38 PM
2 Happy Meals and a season ticket to the Clippers.
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/108542/coach-o.gif

Reverend Hoops
12-12-2011, 07:39 PM
...um what?

I don't trust his knee.

chazzy
12-12-2011, 07:39 PM
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The minimum amnesty bid on Chauncey Billups deal had to be $1.3M. Says one GM: "I'm told there were multiple bids." Clippers had highest.

bagelred
12-12-2011, 07:40 PM
I just realized.....Clippers just saved Dolan some money. :rockon:




Wait........why do I care? :ohwell:

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 07:40 PM
who are the Clippers waiving Kaman or Mo Will?

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:41 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view/108542/coach-o.gif

LMAO.

AMISTILLILL
12-12-2011, 07:41 PM
I don't trust his knee.

I get that, but why is it funny Gilbert is done? Why is Gilbert even involved in this discussion? Totally irrelevant.

Smot Poker
12-12-2011, 07:41 PM
SPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Clips GM Neil Olshey hinted to LA media earlier today that team would use remaining cap room first and THEN match DeAndre Jordan offer sheet.

Olshey is proving to be a more than capable GM!

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:41 PM
who are the Clippers waiving Kaman or Mo Will?

They don't need to waive anyone. They had $3.5 million in cap space.

Smot Poker
12-12-2011, 07:42 PM
how much did the clippers bid?

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Clips had $3.5M in cap space, used it to post winning bid and now face task of getting Billups -- who had threatened retirement -- to report

Darius
12-12-2011, 07:43 PM
I like this move if they ran it by Billups agent first...

Clippersfan86
12-12-2011, 07:43 PM
Always loved Mr Big Shot. He's better than Mo who will be a perfect 6th man. Feel bad for Mo.

themurph
12-12-2011, 07:44 PM
Projected line-up is something like

Billups-Gordon-Butler-Griffin-Jordan

I would like to be the first of many to say

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/722892/south-park-i-just-came-500x375.jpg


Am I missing something? I respect Billups...His big shot making and savvy play...But dude looked pretty old during his time with the Knicks...To me, Billups works better as a role player or coming off the bench at this stage of his career....To me he would have been perfect on a team like the Mavericks or even Miami or even a team like the Bulls...

But the Clippers are still a young, raw team...Besides, has Billups even accepted this yet? I doubt if the Clippers (a cool, exciting up and coming team) were on his list of teams...

I don't know about this one...

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-12-2011, 07:44 PM
SPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Clips GM Neil Olshey hinted to LA media earlier today that team would use remaining cap room first and THEN match DeAndre Jordan offer sheet.

Olshey is proving to be a more than capable GM!
teams been doing this forever. it's called common sense.

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 07:44 PM
They don't need to waive anyone. They had $3.5 million in cap space.
If what @ESPNSteinLine says is true that Clips $3.5M under, amnestying Mo Williams was most logical way to get there

per Hollinger...

Reverend Hoops
12-12-2011, 07:45 PM
I get that, but why is it funny Gilbert is done? Why is Gilbert even involved in this discussion? Totally irrelevant.

I dunno I was thinking of the Wizards I guess. :ohwell:

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 07:45 PM
So although it has yet to be announced, it appears almost certain that the Clips amnestied Mo Williams.

John Hollinger on twitter.. so basically Billups for Mo Williams swapped... dont see the point in this but whatever

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:46 PM
Am I missing something? I respect Billups...His big shot making and savvy play...But dude looked pretty old during his time with the Knicks...To me, Billups works better as a role player or coming off the bench at this stage of his career....To me he would have been perfect on a team like the Mavericks or even Miami or even a team like the Bulls...

But the Clippers are still a young, raw team...Besides, has Billups even accepted this yet? I doubt if the Clippers (a cool, exciting up and coming team) were on his list of teams...

I don't know about this one...

He's our Sam Cassell. That's all that needs to be said.

Reverend Hoops
12-12-2011, 07:46 PM
But the Clippers are still a young, raw team...Besides, has Billups even accepted this yet? I doubt if the Clippers (a cool, exciting up and coming team) were on his list of teams...

I don't know about this one...

Clipps want him to be that vet guy that he has been campaigning against all offseason.

themurph
12-12-2011, 07:51 PM
He's our Sam Cassell. That's all that needs to be said.


But Cassell still had some gas in his tank...He still had lateral movement and he wasn't getting injured...

I like Billups as a guy that's either on a stacked team (Miami) or coming off the bench (Bulls, Mavericks)...

Him being on the Clippers makes no sense...

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 07:51 PM
looks like Hollinger was wrong.... Chauncey nice fit, what happens to Mo? Billups is a floor general who needs 35 minutes per game, EG will see atleast that much to... Mo's role is going to be limited to about 20 minutes per game, no?

DuMa
12-12-2011, 07:51 PM
cue the Mo Williams suicide notes on twitter

chazzy
12-12-2011, 07:52 PM
Yeah no amnesty needed. Good pickup if he doesn't bitch about it

Darius
12-12-2011, 07:53 PM
Confused as to why Mo is amnestied because of this?

Clips have cap space and Billups shouldn't cost more than $2/$3m

InspiredLebowski
12-12-2011, 07:53 PM
If Chauncey retires he doesn't get his 14.5 mil. He's going to the Clippers. He'd have gone anywhere.

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 07:54 PM
Confused as to why Mo is amnestied because of this?

Clips have cap space and Billups shouldn't cost more than $2/$3m
the report was incorrect, Mo is staying, though now his roled is dimished... which is a waste he should be moved out of there

Al Thornton
12-12-2011, 07:55 PM
looks like Hollinger was wrong.... Chauncey nice fit, what happens to Mo? Billups is a floor general who needs 35 minutes per game, EG will see atleast that much to... Mo's role is going to be limited to about 20 minutes per game, no?

how does he need 35?

Unforgiven
12-12-2011, 07:55 PM
cue the Mo Williams suicide notes on twitter

This.

Was just watching interviews him talking about how great Griffin is, and his leadership taking them to the playoffs.

Al Thornton
12-12-2011, 07:56 PM
the report was incorrect, Mo is staying, though now his roled is dimished... which is a waste he should be moved out of there

it's not a waste, they need depth and bledsoe is already out for 6-8 weeks.

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 07:56 PM
But Cassell still had some gas in his tank...He still had lateral movement and he wasn't getting injured...

I like Billups as a guy that's either on a stacked team (Miami) or coming off the bench (Bulls, Mavericks)...

Him being on the Clippers makes no sense...

Dude Billups played 72 games last year. He was around the same age Billups was when he came here, posted similar stats around that time too.

He also gives us size in our backcourt because Gordon is pretty small for a 2.

personally I think you're selling Billups short.

GatorKid117
12-12-2011, 07:56 PM
Basing off last year, I'd rather have Mo.

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 07:57 PM
how does he need 35?
Firstly in my opinion he is the type of player that needs that kind of run to control the game and have his effect on the game. Secondly he is already pissed off and would pout if not given that type of PT, and thirdly there is no starting PG in the league that doesn't see over 30 minutes a game nowadays... I don't see why LAC would not trade Mo Williams now just my take

InspiredLebowski
12-12-2011, 07:57 PM
See all this confusion about do they/do they not have to amnesty a guy that's confusing experts like Hollinger and Mr. Capologist Larry Coon?

The Clippers did that. The Clippers were smarter than them. A new day is upon us.

Darius
12-12-2011, 07:57 PM
How does this reduce Mo's role significantly except, maybe, as a leader?

Bledsoe is out til end of January and Billups has size to play the backup 2.

greensborohill
12-12-2011, 08:01 PM
sorry Heat, you an eat-a-d!ck-up

InspiredLebowski
12-12-2011, 08:02 PM
So what happens if the Clippers amnesty the amnestied Billups?

DuMa
12-12-2011, 08:02 PM
Mo Williams @mogotti25
This cold tub feel so good rt now. I might just take a nap

dont forget the jellyfish mo.

Smot Poker
12-12-2011, 08:02 PM
teams been doing this forever. it's called common sense.

I was to referring to all his wheeling and dealing this off season. I believe he made the right call NOT trading for Paul and for picking up Billups.

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 08:02 PM
How does this reduce Mo's role significantly except, maybe, as a leader?

Bledsoe is out til end of January and Billups has size to play the backup 2.
Mo was pencilled in for like 36 minutes per game and a starting role. Right now if they play no other guards other than Billups/EG/Mo Will what do you have.

EG will play 37-38 so 11 back up minutes available. I can't see Billups playing less than 33 so 15 there... Mo's max minutes is like 25-26 which is considerably less

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-12-2011, 08:03 PM
So what happens if the Clippers amnesty the amnestied Billups?
wow, you're a mod?

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 08:03 PM
So what happens if the Clippers amnesty the amnestied Billups?

Can't amnesty players you acquire from other teams. Though that would be hilariously cruel if you could.

InspiredLebowski
12-12-2011, 08:04 PM
wow, you're a mod?c'mon, that was a good joke

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-12-2011, 08:04 PM
c'mon, that was a good joke
:oldlol: you thinking it was a good joke is funnier than the original joke.

Faberg
12-12-2011, 08:10 PM
You guys really think your getting 2005 Billups. :oldlol:

InspiredLebowski
12-12-2011, 08:13 PM
And the Clips just matched Jordan's offer. Well played.

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 08:18 PM
And the Clips just matched Jordan's offer. Well played.
queue the bus that is taking Kaman out of town:oldlol:

spiegel
12-12-2011, 08:21 PM
Billups
Gordon
Butler
Griffin
Jordan

Not a bad lineup with Butler and Billups the expierence heads and defensive players and Gordon and Griffin the offensive outputs.

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 08:21 PM
queue the bus that is taking Kaman out of town:oldlol:

We will send him to Dallas for Rudy Fernandez.

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 08:23 PM
We will send him to Dallas for Rudy Fernandez.
he would mess up Dallas offense lol with his blackhole ways lately. I think Dallas is better off with Haywood next to Dirk, but Kaman can fit in somewhere, I would like him in GS honestly.

Rnbizzle
12-12-2011, 08:25 PM
Dirk + Kaman? That would be the least athletic frontcourt in NBA history.. :lol

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 08:30 PM
Dirk + Kaman? That would be the least athletic frontcourt in NBA history.. :lol
not to mention Kaman would take ill-advised retard shots and take away from Dirk's workload to the teams detriment

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 08:31 PM
not to mention Kaman would take ill-advised retard shots and take away from Dirk's workload to the teams detriment

they looked pretty sexy together in the eurocup or whatever it was this summer.

Rnbizzle
12-12-2011, 08:32 PM
not to mention Kaman would take ill-advised retard shots and take away from Dirk's workload to the teams detriment
Sounds great to me, wasn't hoping for a Mavs repeat anyways, get it done Cuban!

LJJ
12-12-2011, 08:35 PM
he would mess up Dallas offense lol with his blackhole ways lately. I think Dallas is better off with Haywood next to Dirk, but Kaman
can fit in somewhere, I would like him in GS honestly.

Eh, did you see who the Mavs have on their roster? These guys are not going to let Kaman punk them around. On that team Kaman is going to forget his bad habits really quickly.

ZenMaster
12-12-2011, 08:43 PM
So Cp3's rotting in New Orleans, David West is stuck in Indiana, Billups is a "bad guy" in LA--for the Clippers, and Odom's in Dallas. We could still get Howard... oh wait, there's a good chance he STAYS in Orlando now.


Everything went to shit it seems. Let's just get 1 or 2 things right this off season please, so far anything that could go wrong has gone wrong.
There's still hope


"We are pursuing big deals right now," said Lakers general manager Mitch Kupchak on Monday. "More than one big deal."

http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7346237/gm-mitch-kupchack-says-los-angeles-lakers-pursuing-big-deals-right-now

ZenMaster
12-12-2011, 08:48 PM
John Hollinger on twitter.. so basically Billups for Mo Williams swapped... dont see the point in this but whatever

I guess they where looking for a veteran leader, fair move.

Personally I like this right after Howard said he'd like Billups in Orlando.

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 08:49 PM
Eh, did you see who the Mavs have on their roster? These guys are not going to let Kaman punk them around. On that team Kaman is going to forget his bad habits really quickly.
then what does he bring to the table? If they are not going to let him jack up his shots on offense and get points? Haywood is better on the defensive end and on the glass... he would be of no use if he's not part of the offense.

Rowe
12-12-2011, 09:15 PM
So is Billups going or not?:confusedshrug:

niko
12-12-2011, 09:17 PM
So is Billups going or not?:confusedshrug:
The league told him to be prepared to forfeit his salary if he does not report or is disruptive, so i'd say yes.

NoGunzJustSkillz
12-12-2011, 09:18 PM
Everything went to shit it seems. Let's just get 1 or 2 things right this off season please, so far anything that could go wrong has gone wrong.
There's still hope



http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7346237/gm-mitch-kupchack-says-los-angeles-lakers-pursuing-big-deals-right-now
Thanks for posting link. Okay, whatever with trading Odom, but did it have to be to Dallas?!?!? :banghead:

baseketball4life
12-12-2011, 09:25 PM
So is Billups going or not?:confusedshrug:
he has 14+ million reasons to do so

Rowe
12-12-2011, 09:28 PM
The league told him to be prepared to forfeit his salary if he does not report or is disruptive, so i'd say yes.

The salary the Clippers bid for him or the salary that Dolan is paying?

Clippersfan86
12-12-2011, 09:31 PM
The salary the Clippers bid for him or the salary that Dolan is paying?

Dolan.

Smot Poker
12-12-2011, 09:40 PM
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Source with knowledge of deal tells ESPN that Clippers' winning bid in waiver auction for Chauncey Billups was just over $2 million

Billups for only 2 mil, what a steal Olshey got!

Rowe
12-12-2011, 09:50 PM
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Source with knowledge of deal tells ESPN that Clippers' winning bid in waiver auction for Chauncey Billups was just over $2 million

Billups for only 2 mil, what a steal Olshey got!
They did that to block him from going somewhere else, maybe the Lakers?

Rowe
12-12-2011, 09:51 PM
Dolan.
Interesting to see what he'll do.

Clippers arent a "contender", but if Mo Williams is coming off the bench and/or being traded then this is the best opportunity to lead a Playoff Team.

FourthTenor
12-12-2011, 10:58 PM
The Clippers have always been considered "talented" and "athletic" etc. with the likes of kaman, al thornton, baron davis, gordon, dj and so on. And they always end up sucking because they've had NO IQ WHATSOEVER.

Now with smart, mature guys like Billups, Butler, Blake, in ADDITION to young, talented, springloaded legs like Blake, Gordon, Jordan, and a roster that appears to be legitimately deep.....


This is a team that a coach like VDN has a chance to legitimately prove himself with. They've got the right pieces, and hopefully the right guy pulling the strings. Don't wanna get ahead of myself though, bc we've been down this road before. This time it does appear to be unlike any other, but still... gonna try to stay patient and take the wait and see approach.

FourthTenor
12-12-2011, 11:07 PM
I actually forgot all about Mo Williams. Considering the difference in age but the similarity in play, this does seem like a bit of a headscratcher.

Given the fact that it's the Clippers, it makes me wonder if this is a prelude to them finding a way to dump Mo Williams contract. Basically get the same player for 2 million dollars and ship out the one making five times as much.

Mo, Billups, Bledsoe, Gordon, Foye.... I'd think at least one of them is gonna be on the move. Especially now that Jordan and Butler are inked up and Gordon is next....

This has to be a precursor of some kind, and it wouldn't surprise me if this was a deft ploy to swap a guy the clippers are paying out with one the knicks are already paying. If it is, I'll have to admit it's pretty clever. Cheap, and typical, but clever...

Question is, who out there would take Mo on straight up with cap space or a tpe?

SAKOTXA
12-12-2011, 11:13 PM
Clippers are looking real good with or without the CP3 trade.

As of right now

Billums, Mo Williams, Bledsoe
Gordon, Foye
Butler, Aminu, Gomez
Blake Griffin, Craig Smith, Chris Kaman
DeAndre Jordan, Chris Kaman

Very deep and well balanced.

Clippersfan86
12-12-2011, 11:13 PM
People don't realize how epic it is to pick up a starter of his caliber for 2 mill. Better than Miami picking up Battier. Mo as 6th man will do great.

coin24
12-12-2011, 11:29 PM
People don't realize how epic it is to pick up a starter of his caliber for 2 mill. Better than Miami picking up Battier. Mo as 6th man will do great.


Unless he doesnt want to be there...

Expect to see his amazing arsenal of transition brick 3s when he doesnt give a shit:lol

Hes an awesome pg, I hope he does play well for the clips. I just cant see it seeing as his agent sent an email saying he wasnt interested playing for anyone bar a contender basically:confusedshrug:

longtime lurker
12-12-2011, 11:29 PM
Clippers are making the moves that they need to be making. A young team looking to make a playoff push needs vets. They need to sign a vet to backup Griffin and I they'll be in great shape barring major injuries.

blacknapalm
12-12-2011, 11:39 PM
if this were miami getting billups, this board would be jizzing itself. now all of a sudden, billups sucks. now, no way are clips contenders but it's hard to fault this signing at this price. if he's not productive or disruptive, it's not like you are tied to a huge contract. the disruption part is a concern but when push comes to shove, billups has always been a professional. he can help this team take the next step with his veteran leadership and more importantly, he can help with the pace in close games where the clips lost a lot late.

Fiasco
12-12-2011, 11:57 PM
if this were miami getting billups, this board would be jizzing itself. now all of a sudden, billups sucks. now, no way are clips contenders but it's hard to fault this signing at this price. if he's not productive or disruptive, it's not like you are tied to a huge contract. the disruption part is a concern but when push comes to shove, billups has always been a professional. he can help this team take the next step with his veteran leadership and more importantly, he can help with the pace in close games where the clips lost a lot late.

My god, this times a million.

I can't count how many games we lost last year in the 4th because we failed to close out.

Clutch
12-13-2011, 02:46 AM
I'm glad that Clippers picked up Billups.
It would have been even better if some shitty team picked him up (Cavaliers,Raptors...) but at least he didn't go where he had wanted to.

alenleomessi
12-13-2011, 04:20 AM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_69j7nVK5I7c/TGsaBzDnSQI/AAAAAAAAAyE/L1QcypsIa3E/s1600/ObamaHellNo.jpg

JohnnyFord
12-13-2011, 04:24 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvejvk7ppA1qevi9a.jpg

Smot Poker
12-13-2011, 04:48 AM
Clippers are looking real good with or without the CP3 trade.

As of right now

Billums, Mo Williams, Bledsoe
Gordon, Foye
Butler, Aminu, Gomez
Blake Griffin, Craig Smith, Chris Kaman
DeAndre Jordan, Chris Kaman

Very deep and well balanced.

Who the hell is Billums or Gomez? :roll:

JohnnyFord
12-13-2011, 04:50 AM
Who the hell is Billums or Gomez? :roll:
the clippers secret weapon

Fiasco
12-13-2011, 04:54 AM
Who the hell is Billums or Gomez? :roll:

Whoever Gomez is, he's probably 10x the player Gomes is.

Shadynasty's
12-13-2011, 04:59 AM
Who the hell is Billums or Gomez? :roll:

I think he meant Biggums.

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t6/a_rod212/GIfs%20Album/Dave-Chappelle-as-Tyrone-Biggums-SHAZAM.gif

SAKOTXA
12-13-2011, 05:42 AM
:oldlol: :lol
Typed it on my phone.

Reverend Hoops
12-13-2011, 10:30 AM
he has 14+ million reasons to do so

How can he be "disruptive" if he doesn't?:oldlol: