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niko
12-14-2011, 07:54 PM
Update: DONE DEAL. Here is the trade:

The Los Angeles Clippers today acquired four-time NBA All-Star Chris Paul from the New Orleans Hornets in exchange for Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu and the 2012 first round draft selection the Clippers acquired from the Minnesota Timberwolves in 2005. The Clippers will also receive two future second round draft picks to complete the trade.

Read more: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=8838#ixzz1gZhMu0pC

Nash
12-14-2011, 07:58 PM
Imagine them shipping off both Billupps and Mo Williams to Hornets for CP3. That would kill Mo and Billupps

qrich
12-14-2011, 07:59 PM
Imagine them shipping off both Billupps and Mo Williams to Hornets for CP3. That would kill Mo and Billupps

Billups can'tbe dealt.

I'm assuming it'll be Mo + Aminu + Bled + Minny Pick :D

abuC
12-14-2011, 07:59 PM
Imagine them shipping off both Billupps and Mo Williams to Hornets for CP3. That would kill Mo and Billupps


Can't trade players you pickup off the waivers.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:01 PM
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
ESPN sources: Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets


https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNSteinLine/status/147103516077457408

**** THIS

D12"Magic"
12-14-2011, 08:02 PM
ITS OFFICIAL
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
ESPN sources: Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets

BGriffin's Dad
12-14-2011, 08:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/L73nQ.png

Funnyfuka
12-14-2011, 08:02 PM
holy ****, paul and blake in the same team? gonna be crazy, great news if true.


Contract the hornets, they re now useless.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:02 PM
Neil Olshey is a ****ING moron.

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:03 PM
:lol

ace23
12-14-2011, 08:03 PM
...

GatorKid117
12-14-2011, 08:03 PM
Damn, they got both pick and Gordon.

If Howard had to be dealt, I would have loved that.

MooseJuiceBowen
12-14-2011, 08:03 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

qrich
12-14-2011, 08:03 PM
ESPN sources: Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets



Marc Sein

SMH. Now we have Paul, Billups AND Mo? C'mon Neil

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:03 PM
Bent over backwards by the NBA front office.

I gave this team too much credit.

****ing morons.

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:03 PM
The Clippers should tell David Stern to **** off (for basketball reasons).

Nash
12-14-2011, 08:04 PM
lol, 3 pgs.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:04 PM
What the **** are we supposed to do with 3 Point Guards, you ****ing moron Olshey?

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:05 PM
How the Clippers going to handle the point guard rotation? Are they just gonna slot Billups in at shooting guard? I don't think he'll be happy sitting on the bench.

Williams has some value around the league. What's his contract like? The Lakers would take him.

chazzy
12-14-2011, 08:05 PM
Wow can't believe they caved in. Happy for Paul that this mess is FINALLY over

Al Thornton
12-14-2011, 08:05 PM
:facepalm

clippers somehow always manage to be the clippers.

DStebb716
12-14-2011, 08:05 PM
The Hornets are going to be average this year instead of a joke. Then if they land Austin Rivers and another guy in the draft!? DAMNNNNN.

talkingconch
12-14-2011, 08:06 PM
ESPN sources say NBA approval to be issued by night's end to seal CP3 and 2 future 2nd-rounders to Clips for Gordon/Kaman/Aminu/Sota first
3 minutes ago


Lol **** david stern

konex
12-14-2011, 08:06 PM
That's waaaay too much but it shits all over the 3-way

qrich
12-14-2011, 08:06 PM
FOUR point guards. Billups-Bledsoe-Williams-Paul.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:06 PM
:facepalm

clippers somehow always manage to be the clippers.

:facepalm

Word.

PyrrhusX
12-14-2011, 08:06 PM
looool
Minny pick and EJ .. gg

MooseJuiceBowen
12-14-2011, 08:06 PM
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj164/westcoastrydaz_2008/ClippersDiaryYBB.jpg

shootingcomets
12-14-2011, 08:07 PM
Hornets win :cheers:

Stern wins again :pimp:

LAClipsFan33
12-14-2011, 08:07 PM
Do Not F*cking Want !!!

Al Thornton
12-14-2011, 08:07 PM
waits for clippersfan to come in and call this trade a "steal"

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:07 PM
You gotta give Stern and company some credit here. I was pissed when they vetoed the Laker trade, but they came out pretty well fetching some young talent and a potentially high draft pick.

Real Men Wear Green
12-14-2011, 08:07 PM
That's what the ESPN ticker said. Stern isn't going to pull another void out of his ass this time, hopefully.

qrich
12-14-2011, 08:07 PM
http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/jj164/westcoastrydaz_2008/ClippersDiaryYBB.jpg

Why so butt hurt?

Kornheiser
12-14-2011, 08:07 PM
FOUR point guards. Billups-Bledsoe-Williams-Paul.

http://i.imgur.com/ESLjy.jpg

LemonMan
12-14-2011, 08:08 PM
really?:facepalm

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:08 PM
Neil Olshey, you are a ****ing retard and I hope Donald Sterling shits on your face every morning when you wake up for the rest of your life.

TWO ****ing trades we've been absolutely RAPED in the span of 6 months. UNBELIEVABLE.

colorz
12-14-2011, 08:08 PM
**** THE CLIPPERS :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

iDefend5
12-14-2011, 08:08 PM
What an awful trade for the Clippers. :facepalm

DMVLeGenD
12-14-2011, 08:08 PM
waits for clippersfan to come in and call this trade a "steal"

:oldlol:

ROCSteady
12-14-2011, 08:08 PM
Maybe play Chauncey at SG for his good spot up jumper while Paul manipulates the defense and opposition has to worry about Paul's vision to the front court. :confusedshrug:


Paul
Billups
Butler
Griffin
Jordan

That's at least good for a 5 seed or so with Mo off the bench......right?

shootingcomets
12-14-2011, 08:09 PM
might slide Mo to SG for a bit maybe

DStebb716
12-14-2011, 08:09 PM
I expect another deal from the Clippers. Mo Williams or Eric Bledsoe somewhere for a solid SG.

Wally450
12-14-2011, 08:09 PM
Crazy

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:09 PM
Maybe play Chauncey at SG for his good spot up jumper while Paul manipulates the defense and opposition has to worry about Paul's vision to the front court. :confusedshrug:


Paul
Billups
Butler
Griffin
Jordan

That's at least good for a 5 seed or so with Mo off the bench......right?

We have 4 ****ing point guards. 4.

**** this squad, man.

Glide2keva
12-14-2011, 08:09 PM
:facepalm

clippers somehow always manage to be the clippers.
The Clippers are the Clippers, for basketball reasons.

LemonMan
12-14-2011, 08:09 PM
**** this

Ronin
12-14-2011, 08:10 PM
its Gordon's Hornets now

talkingconch
12-14-2011, 08:10 PM
daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Second source directly involved: Gordon, Minnesota pick, Kaman and Aminu all to New Orleans for CP3. Clippers relented and included both.
58 seconds ago

:facepalm

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:10 PM
David Stern, please take over this franchise. You can be our general manager/owner too. Please.

Al Thornton
12-14-2011, 08:10 PM
mo is gonna be traded obviously.

Troll Sodomizer
12-14-2011, 08:10 PM
FOUR point guards. Billups-Bledsoe-Williams-Paul.
:roll: Hahahahaaahhahaaha...what a f*cking joke!

Can't wait for Griffin to get the f*ck outta there.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:10 PM
What was the other trade where the Clippers got raped? I can't seem to recall any.

Kyrie Irving for Mo Williams and Jamario Moon.

chazzy
12-14-2011, 08:11 PM
This is still historic for the Clippers though to get an all time player like Paul paired up with Griffin.

Quata
12-14-2011, 08:11 PM
You guys are getting cp3, cheer the **** up. You now have the most entertaining team in the league, should be able to move one of the pgs is necessary, billups will be playing quite a lot of 2 i imagine.

Paul/Williams/Bledsoe
Billups/Foye?
Butler/?
Griffin/Smith
Jordan/?

Is still a very strong team. How much cap space will you have?

Reverend Hoops
12-14-2011, 08:11 PM
It is official. Billups is mad.

Backup on the Clipps? ROFL

yobore
12-14-2011, 08:11 PM
They had to do it.

they would have been remembering this as the time they almost had CP next to blake but didn't do it because of Eric Gordon.

CP is not done he will be much better this year than last. Clippers wanted more but the NBA knew all along you don't pass up on a chance like this

DirtySanchez
12-14-2011, 08:11 PM
Wow.....at least it's over.

qrich
12-14-2011, 08:11 PM
Kyrie Irving for Mo Williams and Jamario Moon.

I don't see how the Clippers got raped in that deal, at all. With Baron still on the roster, the Clippers might have lost or won two additional games, thus, throwing them from the 8th worst record, to the 7th or 9th, therefore not making a difference and being stuck with Davis' albatross contract.

Kobr
12-14-2011, 08:11 PM
Watch the Hornets draft Kobe 2.0 in the 2012 draft with that Minny pick and EJ start putting up 30 points per game. :lol

MooseJuiceBowen
12-14-2011, 08:12 PM
This is still historic for the Clippers though to get an all time player like Paul paired up with Griffin.

lez be honest.. neither of them are sticking around

bagelred
12-14-2011, 08:12 PM
I leave my computer for one second.....


Reading.........

talkingconch
12-14-2011, 08:13 PM
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Bledsoe is only one of Clips' top five trade assets hekd out of deal. But CP3 opts in for 2012-13, so Clips assured two years of Blake/CP3
1 minute ago

Lakers_Kobe_Fan
12-14-2011, 08:13 PM
good trade for hornets

LAClipsFan33
12-14-2011, 08:13 PM
...

konex
12-14-2011, 08:13 PM
Well stern got a much better deal. He is vindicated but this is still collision. Clipps were asleep at the wheel and Mitch was about to pull a fast one lol

FireMcFailPlease
12-14-2011, 08:13 PM
This is still historic for the Clippers though to get an all time player like Paul paired up with Griffin.
i agree. the line up of:

c-griffin
pf-billups
sf-bledsoe
sg-williams
pg-paul

will give teams fits

qrich
12-14-2011, 08:13 PM
You guys are getting cp3, cheer the **** up. You now have the most entertaining team in the league, should be able to move one of the pgs is necessary, billups will be playing quite a lot of 2 i imagine.

Paul/Williams/Bledsoe
Billups/Foye?
Butler/?
Griffin/Smith
Jordan/?

Is still a very strong team. How much cap space will you have?

As of now, DC seems to be:

Paul - Mo - Bled
Billups - Foye - Leslie - Warren
Butler - Gomes
Griffin - Thompkins - Cook
Jordan -

chazzy
12-14-2011, 08:13 PM
Paul opted in for 2013 as well

DirtySanchez
12-14-2011, 08:13 PM
OK...why did they pick up Billups?

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:13 PM
I don't see how the Clippers got raped in that deal, at all. With Baron still on the roster, the Clippers might have lost or won two additional games, thus, throwing them from the 8th worst record, to the 7th or 9th, therefore not making a difference and being stuck with Davis' albatross contract.

Doesn't matter.

In the end they got the 1st Overall and we got a whiny combo guard and a benchwarmer.

LAClipsFan33
12-14-2011, 08:14 PM
I'm thinking Caron Butler plays SG if this goes through...

Gomes will still start

:facepalm

f*cking shoot me

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-14-2011, 08:14 PM
Well, at least the Clippers are a serious contender now.

Way too PGs though, holy crap.

donald_trump
12-14-2011, 08:14 PM
clipps have got to be making more trades. they aren't going to be sticking with that point guard rotation.

i think billups goes back to denver or the heat.

ihatetimthomas
12-14-2011, 08:14 PM
Clippers gave up a LOT in this deal, but make no mistake about it. The CLippers have improved and they are a legit playoff team. This deal also probably keep Griffin around when his extension comes up. Expect both Griffin and Deandre to improve and get a ton of easy buckets with CP3. I will miss Gordon and giving up that pick is :facepalm but Clippers are a complete team and now they have 2 superstars.

Reverend Hoops
12-14-2011, 08:15 PM
i agree. the line up of:

c-griffin
pf-billups
sf-bledsoe
sg-williams
pg-paul

will give teams fits

:oldlol:

EnoughSaid
12-14-2011, 08:15 PM
Oh damnnn! This makes the Clippers vs. Warriors Christmas Day game one of the most exciting! OH SHIZ! :rockon:

OmniStrife
12-14-2011, 08:15 PM
Based Stern.... LIKE A BAUS!!

LemonMan
12-14-2011, 08:15 PM
clipps have got to be making more trades. they aren't going to be sticking with that point guard rotation.

i think billups goes back to denver or the heat.
billups can't be traded

EnoughSaid
12-14-2011, 08:15 PM
i agree. the line up of:

c-griffin
pf-billups
sf-bledsoe
sg-williams
pg-paul

will give teams fits

LMFAOOOO. :oldlol:

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:15 PM
I hope Blake Griffin and CP3 sign somewhere else in 2 years. This franchise is a ****ing disgrace.

qrich
12-14-2011, 08:15 PM
You guys are getting cp3, cheer the **** up. You now have the most entertaining team in the league, should be able to move one of the pgs is necessary, billups will be playing quite a lot of 2 i imagine.

Paul/Williams/Bledsoe
Billups/Foye?
Butler/?
Griffin/Smith
Jordan/?

Is still a very strong team. How much cap space will you have?

As of now, DC seems to be:

Paul - Mo - Bled
Billups - Foye - Leslie - Warren
Butler - Gomes
Griffin - Thompkins - Cook
Jordan -


Doesn't matter.

In the end they got the 1st Overall and we got a whiny combo guard and a benchwarmer.

Whiny combo guard? Mo has done a lot for the Clippers, like him or not. Organized team practices, and has done nothing but be positive, even after the acquiring of Billups.

FireMcFailPlease
12-14-2011, 08:16 PM
oh thats right...the clippers still have randy foye.

yea youre not goin to win any games, lmfao!

OmniStrife
12-14-2011, 08:16 PM
billups can't be traded
But Mo and Bledsoe sure are tradeable.

Killer_Instinct
12-14-2011, 08:17 PM
We lose Lamar for nothing...we didn't get Chris....and even worse...he went to the red-headed step child of L.A. Sports teams?

http://i51.tinypic.com/3308dvk.gif

christian1923
12-14-2011, 08:17 PM
knew that they would have to give up gordon. clippers fans were in denial lol

Kobr
12-14-2011, 08:17 PM
They should trade Bledsoe + Mo Williams + the other 1st round pick for Monta Ellis.

Chris Paul / Chauncey Billups
Monta Ellis / Randy Foye
Caron Butler / Gomes
Blake Griffin / Craig Smith
DeAndre Jordan / Trey Thompkins

Damnnnn...

outbreak
12-14-2011, 08:18 PM
How long until Billups can be traded? Or is the amnesty rule different to if they signed him in a trade. Isn't a trade only a month or so then you can trade them?

Quata
12-14-2011, 08:18 PM
As of now, DC seems to be:

Paul - Mo - Bled
Billups - Foye - Leslie - Warren
Butler - Gomes
Griffin - Thompkins - Cook
Jordan -



Whiny combo guard? Mo has done a lot for the Clippers, like him or not. Organized team practices, and has done nothing but be positive, even after the acquiring of Billups.

Do the clips still have a MLE to sign a backup c, or even any capspace? Will bledsoe be moved with mo to get an even better piece or keeping him for the long run?

Jameerthefear
12-14-2011, 08:18 PM
:lol this is pretty cool, wish the Magic would have gotten their hands on him tho.

Al Thornton
12-14-2011, 08:18 PM
2 seasons is actually kind of a long time. we just have to hope they don't be the clippers.

RandomBalla55
12-14-2011, 08:18 PM
They should trade Bledsoe + Mo Williams + the other 1st round pick for Monta Ellis.

Chris Paul / Chauncey Billups
Monta Ellis / Randy Foye
Caron Butler / Gomes
Blake Griffin / Craig Smith
DeAndre Jordan / Trey Thompkins

Damnnnn...

Lol, like the Warriors are gonna do that trade.

Billups can't be traded until next year. One of Mo and Bledsoe must go to either get some backup bodies in the front court or a better 2 guard.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:18 PM
Whiny combo guard? Mo has done a lot for the Clippers, like him or not. Organized team practices, and has done nothing but be positive, even after the acquiring of Billups.

He's a good person. Terrible player. He's a spot up shooter with zero basketball IQ. Average passer, average dribbler. And he makes more money than Blake Griffin right now.

Don't even get me started on Moon.

AMISTILLILL
12-14-2011, 08:19 PM
It hurts losing Gordon if you're a Clippers fan, but you just got a hell of a lot better instantly. There are no guarantees with hanging on to Gordon, although he'll certainly be a great player. Paul makes you relevant for the first time in a long time. Trade for that kind of player first, think about how to bounce back from losing Gordon second.

The Big Skinny
12-14-2011, 08:20 PM
So what does the Hornets Line up look like?

PG: Jarrett Jack
SG: Gordon, Belinelli
SF: Ariza, Aminu, Pondexter
PF: Landry, Summers
C: Okafor, Kaman

If D. West stayed, they would be decent in the west. Need help at PG and PF. That Minne pick will help tho

ihatetimthomas
12-14-2011, 08:20 PM
http://www.cavstheblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Cleveland-Cavaliers-Mo-Williams-2-Reacts.jpeg

qrich
12-14-2011, 08:20 PM
Do the clips still have a MLE to sign a backup c, or even any capspace? Will bledsoe be moved with mo to get an even better piece or keeping him for the long run?

No. Since the Clips were under the cap, they wouldn't be able to use the Mid-Level Exception in any ways.

Bledsoe might have some value around the league to get a SG and a backup C.

bagelred
12-14-2011, 08:20 PM
My god, the Clippers caved. Once again, just like Melo/Knicks, the league had nowhere else to go. Yet, the team caves and gives up all its assets.....:facepalm

David Stern.....playing god..........

colorz
12-14-2011, 08:21 PM
Foye backup small forward? :facepalm

Kobr
12-14-2011, 08:21 PM
I hope Blake Griffin and CP3 sign somewhere else in 2 years. This franchise is a ****ing disgrace.

Why dude? You guys gave up a lot, but it's not like you were Memphis with the Pau Gasol trade... You guys didn't get raped or anything.

CP3, Butler and Griffin will be a powerful line-up

talkingconch
12-14-2011, 08:21 PM
Watch the hornets play better this season lol

suprised this thread is only 6 pages

Al Thornton
12-14-2011, 08:21 PM
how was ariza not included?

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-14-2011, 08:22 PM
They should trade Bledsoe + Mo Williams + the other 1st round pick for Monta Ellis.

Chris Paul / Chauncey Billups
Monta Ellis / Randy Foye
Caron Butler / Gomes
Blake Griffin / Craig Smith
DeAndre Jordan / Trey Thompkins

Damnnnn...

Yea, we gotta do something about all these 5's. This shit is a mess.

LemonMan
12-14-2011, 08:22 PM
so much for holding my breath and hoping nothing would **** this up :facepalm

Nash
12-14-2011, 08:22 PM
Whats wrong with this deal? I mean, it all comes down to CP3 and Gordon which to be honest CP3>>Gordon.. All day everyday.

Now I have no idea why the hell the picked up Billupps right now but hey, they could probably go for Hamilton right now or some shit like that. Or, trade Mo.

shootingcomets
12-14-2011, 08:22 PM
They should trade Bledsoe + Mo Williams + the other 1st round pick for Monta Ellis.

Chris Paul / Chauncey Billups
Monta Ellis / Randy Foye
Caron Butler / Gomes
Blake Griffin / Craig Smith
DeAndre Jordan / Trey Thompkins

Damnnnn...

they dont need monta ball hog with CP there

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:22 PM
Since we're talking about the Clippers, that Minnesota pick will probably be the first pick in the draft. :oldlol: I do like the trade though. Cp3 and Griffin are a scary duo.

Troll Sodomizer
12-14-2011, 08:22 PM
Watch the hornets play better this season lol

suprised this thread is only 6 pages
6 pages in 20 minutes is a lot.

shootingcomets
12-14-2011, 08:23 PM
So what does the Hornets Line up look like?

PG: Jarrett Jack
SG: Gordon, Belinelli
SF: Ariza, Aminu, Pondexter
PF: Landry, Summers
C: Okafor, Kaman

If D. West stayed, they would be SOLID in the east. Need help at PG and PF. That Minne pick will help tho

the east?

christian1923
12-14-2011, 08:23 PM
hey can we get bledsoe for bill walker!? hahaha

donald_trump
12-14-2011, 08:23 PM
billups can't be traded

they're trading someone then. all are good enough to start on certain teams.

chazzy
12-14-2011, 08:24 PM
Since we're talking about the Clippers and a league owned team, that Minnesota pick will probably be the first pick in the draft. :oldlol:
Fixed.. literally :lol

yobore
12-14-2011, 08:24 PM
they dont need monta ball hog with CP there
not that that trade makes any sense for the Hornets but Monta with a real pg wouldn't be a ballhog. When Baron was there he was very good.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:24 PM
Why dude? You guys gave up a lot, but it's not like you were Memphis with the Pau Gasol trade... You guys didn't get raped or anything.

CP3, Butler and Griffin will be a powerful line-up

Now our starting SG is Foye. We have no back-up center, no back-up small forward.

Zero depth. And Mo Williams + Bledsoe are 100% going to be traded for crap players.

We absolutely got bent over. The Hornets had NOBODY ELSE BIDDING on CP3. And they took all of our best assets for a guy coming off a knee injury with a 2 year contract.

**** this squad.

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:24 PM
Fixed.. literally :lol

HAHA ya I just thought about that.

magnax1
12-14-2011, 08:25 PM
Signed in on my phone just to say.
DERP DERP.
Clippers need new management

Kobr
12-14-2011, 08:25 PM
Hey, it still has a chance to be given the good ol' veto.

T-Low
12-14-2011, 08:25 PM
Oh clips......:roll:

magnax1
12-14-2011, 08:25 PM
Signed in on my phone just to say.
DERP DERP.
Clippers need new management

The Big Skinny
12-14-2011, 08:25 PM
the east?

shhhhhhhhh

IGOTGAME
12-14-2011, 08:25 PM
Clippers will be a top 4 team in the West this year. Possibly top 2.

PleezeBelieve
12-14-2011, 08:26 PM
Clippers fan are idiots. They said they won the Cavs trade last year. lol

Great trade for the Clips. They get Paul without losing any frontcourt depth.

Great, great deal.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-14-2011, 08:27 PM
Can't help but wonder just what in the hell are the Lakers gonna do. They got bent over by Stern not once, but twice.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:27 PM
Clippers fan are idiots. They said they won the Cavs trade last year. lol

Great trade for the Clips. They get Paul without losing any frontcourt depth.

Great, great deal.

No, we lost that trade bad. Cavaliers raped.

Now we just got raped again. Clippers never learn, never will.

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:27 PM
I don't know why everyone's killing the Clippers for trading the best point guard in the league. In all seriousness that lottery pick is hardly a guarantee superstar. I know they gave up Eric Gordon, who is supposedly the best thing since sliced bread, but I think he's more Luol Deng than Kobe Bryant if you get my drift. If the Clippers can swap Mo Williams a shooting guard we're looking at a very, very good team.

Has anyone heard from Rip Hamilton. I wouldn't be surprised if he's now considering LA as a destination, and I don't mean the Lakers.

fiddy
12-14-2011, 08:28 PM
Clippers will be a top 4 team in the West this year. Possibly top 2.
No doubt :rolleyes:

Nets fan 93
12-14-2011, 08:28 PM
Can't help but wonder just what in the hell will the Lakers do. They got bent over by Stern not once, but twice.
Being the owner of the Hornets... He was very smart.

Clippers and Hornets benefit from this trade. Great for both teams.

chazzy
12-14-2011, 08:28 PM
J Jack
Gordon
Ariza
Kaman
Okafor

JohnnyFord
12-14-2011, 08:29 PM
No, we lost that trade bad. Cavaliers raped.

Now we just got raped again. Clippers never learn, never will.
no one would have knew that the pick the clippers gave up would be the number 1 pick.

Abd El-Krim
12-14-2011, 08:29 PM
ITS OFFICIAL
ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
ESPN sources: Clippers and NBA-owned Hornets have agreed to Chris Paul deal in principle. Gordon, Kaman, Aminu and Minnesota pick to Hornets

Nooooo!

Rake2204
12-14-2011, 08:29 PM
So, was it ultimately okay for a league-owned team to nix a couple of deals until they could find something the ownership found to be satisfactory?

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:29 PM
no one would have knew that the pick the clippers gave up would be the number 1 pick.

They didn't even put protections on it.

****ing amateurs.

PleezeBelieve
12-14-2011, 08:29 PM
SMFH @ the idiots in this thread. Clips stole Paul. F*ck a 6'4 SG and a draft pick you have no idea where its going to slot.

You people are clowns. Clips are a 40 win team at minimum this year.

Kobr
12-14-2011, 08:29 PM
I don't know why everyone's killing the Clippers for trading the best point guard in the league. In all seriousness that lottery pick is hardly a guarantee superstar. I know they gave up Eric Gordon, who is supposedly the best thing since sliced bread, but I think he's more Luol Deng than Kobe Bryant if you get my drift. If the Clippers can swap Mo Williams a shooting guard we're looking at a very, very good team.

Has anyone heard from Rip Hamilton. I wouldn't be surprised if he's now considering LA as a destination, and I don't mean the Lakers.

Yeah, didn't Rip just get amnestied?

bagelred
12-14-2011, 08:30 PM
No one is reading this post.

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:31 PM
Yeah, didn't Rip just get amnestied?

I don't know he got amnestied or his contract expired. I haven't been paying much attention to that situation. He'd be a DECENT fit in LA though. I think a guy like JR Smith would do well there too.

Deuce Bigalow
12-14-2011, 08:31 PM
they traded Eric Gordon, WOW

PleezeBelieve
12-14-2011, 08:31 PM
Gordon is due an extension as well. Give me Paul over being forced to pay Gordan 12 mill a year.

All this is a no brainer. Can't believe anyone could say otherwise.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:31 PM
I don't know he got amnestied or his contract expired. I haven't been paying much attention to that situation. He'd be a DECENT fit in LA though. I think a guy like JR Smith would do well there too.

He got bought out. Not amnestied.

Rake2204
12-14-2011, 08:31 PM
Yeah, didn't Rip just get amnestied?
Rip was waived.

RazorBaLade
12-14-2011, 08:32 PM
So, was it ultimately okay for a league-owned team to nix a couple of deals until they could find something the ownership found to be satisfactory?

the problem is not that they said no.. it wasnt an owner turning down an offer he didnt like. stern ****ing veto-d for basketball reasons. wtf.


also, ALL ABOARD THE LAKERSAREGETTINGRAPED train. CHOO CHOO

ihatetimthomas
12-14-2011, 08:32 PM
Now our starting SG is Foye. We have no back-up center, no back-up small forward.

Zero depth. And Mo Williams + Bledsoe are 100% going to be traded for crap players.

We absolutely got bent over. The Hornets had NOBODY ELSE BIDDING on CP3. And they took all of our best assets for a guy coming off a knee injury with a 2 year contract.

**** this squad.

You are tripping man. The Clippers got a legit superstar. They get to pair up Griff with CP3 and you are pissed? I will admit, they gave up a lot. But you now have 2 legitimate superstars. You get a guy who will make both Griff and Deandre better. AND you get a player who will likely keep Griffin around for an extension.

Clippers are now a legitimate playoff team. No doubt about it. They have holes, but they are going to be filled because now players will come on the cheap. You get the superstar players and then worry about the rest.

CP3 is a guy who can finally dig this team out of the ground. Losing Gordon hurts. But he was also injury prone and no way of knowing if he was going to turn into a superstar.

Troll Sodomizer
12-14-2011, 08:32 PM
J Jack
Gordon
Ariza
Kaman
Okafor
15 wins, maximum.

bih
12-14-2011, 08:32 PM
clippers got david stern'd


the phuck did they give up for CP3 that will be around for 2 years before heading to Lakers

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:33 PM
I hope New Orleans makes the playoffs, wins the lottery, and Eric Gordon becomes the 2nd greatest shooting guard of all time.

I also hope Blake Griffin breaks his legs and CP3 shatters his knee caps. This is what this franchise deserves.

IGOTGAME
12-14-2011, 08:33 PM
No doubt :rolleyes:

that is how good Chris Paul is. They were gonna be a playoff team with the roster they had from last year.

chazzy
12-14-2011, 08:33 PM
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Chauncey Billlups is planning to meet Vinny Del Negro and Clippers staff for dinner tonight, source says. Buyout for dessert?


And Jesus you guys are overrating Gordon if you think this deal was that awful.

Nets fan 93
12-14-2011, 08:34 PM
No one is reading this post.
Too small not to read.

MichaelCheazley
12-14-2011, 08:34 PM
FOUR point guards. Billups-Bledsoe-Williams-Paul.

http://thebiglead.fantasysportsven.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/nba_g_kahn_600.jpg

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:34 PM
I'm really surprised a guy like Ariza wasn't included in the deal.

MK2V1GP
12-14-2011, 08:34 PM
Clippers should've stayed right where they were.

Billups/Williams
Gordon/Bledsoe
Butler/Aminu
Griffin
Jordan/Kaman

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CP3/Williams
Billups/Bledsoe
Butler
Griffin
Jordan

Kobr
12-14-2011, 08:35 PM
I hope New Orleans makes the playoffs, wins the lottery, and Eric Gordon becomes the 2nd greatest shooting guard of all time.

I also hope Blake Griffin breaks his legs and CP3 shatters his knee caps. This is what this franchise deserves.

Dude, you're crazy.

ballinhun8
12-14-2011, 08:35 PM
Clipps gave a lot but they got the third best PG in the game.



If he stays healthy they'll be a playoff team. They just gotta get that player that will take over in crunch time cuz CP3 ain't it.

ballsohard247
12-14-2011, 08:35 PM
So all of this is theoretical right now? How close to an agreement are they realistically?

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:35 PM
You are tripping man. The Clippers got a legit superstar. They get to pair up Griff with CP3 and you are pissed? I will admit, they gave up a lot. But you now have 2 legitimate superstars. You get a guy who will make both Griff and Deandre better. AND you get a player who will likely keep Griffin around for an extension.

Clippers are now a legitimate playoff team. No doubt about it. They have holes, but they are going to be filled because now players will come on the cheap. You get the superstar players and then worry about the rest.

CP3 is a guy who can finally dig this team out of the ground. Losing Gordon hurts. But he was also injury prone and no way of knowing if he was going to turn into a superstar.

Chris Paul is coming off a bloody knee injury, and he's only got 2 years ensured on his contract. We get to pair up CP3 and Blake Griffin, but where the hell is all of our depth now? Did you not see what happened to New York this year?

Eric Gordon was on the cusp of being a star. Not to mention his injuries are not the result of chronic problems in his ligaments, but they're just unfortunate incidents that happen during games. Not to mention he is younger, cheaper, and would have been had for at least 5 years if he was resigned.

Now all it takes is for 1 of our best players to get injured and we're an instant lottery team. Fan-****ing-tastic.

PleezeBelieve
12-14-2011, 08:37 PM
Clippers should've stayed right where they were.

Billups/Williams
Gordon/Bledsoe
Butler/Aminu
Griffin
Jordan/Kaman

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

CP3/Williams
Billups/Bledsoe
Butler
Griffin
Jordan
I gotta be in the Twilight Zone reading dumb-ass posts like this one.

SMFH... I'm done posting in this thread.

Collie
12-14-2011, 08:37 PM
I guess David Stern was vindicated. Much much better deal than the Lakers one.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:38 PM
Dude, you're crazy.

I'm just pissed everyone is downplaying what an absolutely rape this was by David Stern.

Does anybody else not realize the Clippers were betting against themselves?

macpierce
12-14-2011, 08:38 PM
Wait a minute, so paul is signing the extension? how many years is this extension???

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:38 PM
I guess David Stern was vindicated. Much much better deal than the Lakers one.

Yup. It's hard to hate on the guy now that he got what he did.

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 08:39 PM
Wait a minute, so paul is signing the extension? how many years is this extension???

No he's just not going to opt out of his contract. He'll be a free agent in two years.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:39 PM
Wait a minute, so paul is signing the extension? how many years is this extension???

He's not signing an extension. He's just picking up his player option, which is for 1 extra year. Then he's a FA.

miles berg
12-14-2011, 08:40 PM
Now our starting SG is Foye. We have no back-up center, no back-up small forward.

Zero depth. And Mo Williams + Bledsoe are 100% going to be traded for crap players.

We absolutely got bent over. The Hornets had NOBODY ELSE BIDDING on CP3. And they took all of our best assets for a guy coming off a knee injury with a 2 year contract.

**** this squad.

STFU, you have Chris Paul & Blake Griffin, you will win go like 45-21 and then win 55-60 the year after.

You are now elite, you were crap before.

dak121
12-14-2011, 08:40 PM
Clippers gave up more than what the Knicks gave up to get Carmelo.

I know that Paul is a great player but that package is outrageous for a guy with shaky knees.

Stern fleeced them badly. The Hornets are set up well for the future. Awesome trade for them.

IGOTGAME
12-14-2011, 08:41 PM
Chris Paul is coming off a bloody knee injury, and he's only got 2 years ensured on his contract. We get to pair up CP3 and Blake Griffin, but where the hell is all of our depth now? Did you not see what happened to New York this year?

Eric Gordon was on the cusp of being a star. Not to mention his injuries are not the result of chronic problems in his ligaments, but they're just unfortunate incidents that happen during games. Not to mention he is younger, cheaper, and would have been had for at least 5 years if he was resigned.

Now all it takes is for 1 of our best players to get injured and we're an instant lottery team. Fan-****ing-tastic.



Clippers fan with loser mentality. Wow



STFU, you have Chris Paul & Blake Griffin, you will win go like 45-21 and then win 55-60 the year after.

You are now elite, you were crap before.

this

Aussie Dunker
12-14-2011, 08:42 PM
Gordon is due an extension as well. Give me Paul over being forced to pay Gordan 12 mill a year.

All this is a no brainer. Can't believe anyone could say otherwise.


Pretty sure it will be even steeper than this... Rudy gay signed 5 years for 80 mill right? It will be something like this...

Kobr
12-14-2011, 08:42 PM
Only Clipper fans would be this upset about landing CP3. I get that you guys are used to a history of failure, but this wasn't a robbery. You gave up Gordon and the Minny pick (chances to be good) for Chris Paul (already proven to be good). Yeah, if the pick ends up being the #1 and Gordon ends up greatly improving it's not going to feel great, but if CP3 can lead that Hornets team into the playoffs almost by himself, imagine what he can do with Griffin and Jordan in the front court, plus a veteran like Caron Butler.

I don't see this trade being anything like the Kyrie Irving pick trade.

Blue&Orange
12-14-2011, 08:43 PM
I predict clippers fans will stop whining after a couple CP3 games as a clipper.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:44 PM
STFU, you have Chris Paul & Blake Griffin, you will win go like 45-21 and then win 55-60 the year after.

You are now elite, you were crap before.

We're not elite anything. Zero depth in a condensed season means we're going to lose a ton of games. Chris Paul can't play 40 minutes every game with this schedule.


Clippers fan with loser mentality. Wow

Loser mentality? We just traded everything that could have made us a winner for one player. A point guard with a hobbled knee.

Colour me unimpressed. We were bidding against ourselves the entire time and we somehow still lose.

brantonli
12-14-2011, 08:45 PM
I've got to say, when it comes your turn to have a chance to trade for a superstar, you go ahead and do it. No excuses. Obviously you don't gut your entire team to do it (and the Clips have not done it this time) but you pony up because superstars don't come around on the trading block very often. Much better trade from Hornets point of view too.

BGriffin's Dad
12-14-2011, 08:46 PM
Only Clipper fans would be this upset about landing CP3. I get that you guys are used to a history of failure, but this wasn't a robbery. You gave up Gordon and the Minny pick (chances to be good) for Chris Paul (already proven to be good). Yeah, if the pick ends up being the #1 and Gordon ends up greatly improving it's not going to feel great, but if CP3 can lead that Hornets team into the playoffs almost by himself, imagine what he can do with Griffin and Jordan in the front court, plus a veteran like Caron Butler.

I don't see this trade being anything like the Kyrie Irving pick trade.

this..

i do wish we could've kept EJ or gotten someone like Ariza/Okafor back in the trade but shit.. there was no way we were going to land CP3 in free agency

i for one am excited

IGOTGAME
12-14-2011, 08:46 PM
We're not elite anything. Zero depth in a condensed season means we're going to lose a ton of games. Chris Paul can't play 40 minutes every game with this schedule.



Loser mentality? We just traded everything that could have made us a winner for one player. A point guard with a hobbled knee.

Colour me unimpressed. We were bidding against ourselves the entire time and we somehow still lose.

the Clippers are an elite team now. enjoy it. they will be winners now with Chris Paul. Don't gamble your future on a lotto pick.

hawkfan
12-14-2011, 08:47 PM
Only Clipper fans would be this upset about landing CP3. I get that you guys are used to a history of failure, but this wasn't a robbery. You gave up Gordon and the Minny pick (chances to be good) for Chris Paul (already proven to be good). Yeah, if the pick ends up being the #1 and Gordon ends up greatly improving it's not going to feel great, but if CP3 can lead that Hornets team into the playoffs almost by himself, imagine what he can do with Griffin and Jordan in the front court, plus a veteran like Caron Butler.

I don't see this trade being anything like the Kyrie Irving pick trade.

So starting lineup is:

PG: Paul
SG: Bledsoe or Billups
SF: Butler
PF: Griffin
C: Jordan

Trade Williams or amnesty him and then sign Dalembert for defense up front. Dalembert and Griffin will block a lot of shots. Paul and Billups will find Dalembert for a lot of dunks.

The Clippers have a smart basketball team with Paul, Billups, Butler.

kuniva_dAMiGhTy
12-14-2011, 08:47 PM
We're not elite anything. Zero depth in a condensed season means we're going to lose a ton of games. Chris Paul can't play 40 minutes every game with this schedule.

:oldlol:

We're so used to losing, winning just doesn't seem logical.

Collie
12-14-2011, 08:47 PM
http://bottomoftheswamp.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/david-stern.jpg

DevilsAssassin
12-14-2011, 08:48 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

This

ballsohard247
12-14-2011, 08:48 PM
http://bottomoftheswamp.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/david-stern.jpg
Maybe this was the basketball reason.

LAClipsFan33
12-14-2011, 08:48 PM
So starting lineup is:

PG: Paul
SG: Bledsoe or Billups
SF: Butler
PF: Griffin
C: Jordan

Trade Williams or amnesty him and then sign Dalembert for defense up front. Dalembert and Griffin will block a lot of shots. Paul and Billups will find Dalembert for a lot of dunks.

The Clippers have a smart basketball team with Paul, Billups, Butler.

PG : Paul
SG : Foye
SF: Butler

or

PG: Paul
SG: Butler
SF: Gomes

This is more realistic

Neither Chancey Billups or Eric Bledsoe are going to be assigned to guard SGs or play SG if Del Negro has ANY sense

supe12sta12z
12-14-2011, 08:49 PM
Clippers sucked for so long that their Fans were and still are overvaluing their players and draft picks. CP3 is going to change the way the Clippers play the game. They'll now have a coach on the floor and will control the flow of the game. Not very many players in the league are this good mentally and physically. Clipper fans will forget all about so called lopsided trade a month into the season.

Collie
12-14-2011, 08:49 PM
Just flip Mo Williams for a decent SG and they'd be set.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:50 PM
the Clippers are an elite team now. enjoy it. they will be winners now with Chris Paul. Don't gamble your future on a lotto pick.

It's not just the pick though, man. That's what I've been saying. We just lost our starting shooting guard, our back up small forward, and back-up big man (two seasons removed from an All-Star season) for Chris Paul. Adding the pick, which is potentially lottery bound, makes this trade even worse.

Now the Clippers have 4 point guards in their rotation. Our back-court just got much, much smaller, and our front court has zero substance after Griffin and Jordan.

We're also right up against the cap, so any FAs that want to come here are going to have to take significantly less........ and if the last few deals have been any indication, nobody is going to do that.

EDIT: And our coach is still Vinny Del Negro. Perfect.

cranincu
12-14-2011, 08:50 PM
the clippers gave away a future hall of famer with that minnesota pick

what a bad trade

Al Thornton
12-14-2011, 08:50 PM
Just flip Mo Williams for a decent SG and they'd be set.

but who wants mo williams? is there a single team?

WhySoInsecure?
12-14-2011, 08:51 PM
CP3 will make Jordan and Blake look like wizards.
All they really have to do is swing Mo for a decent shooting guard and they're up there with the best teams in the western conference.

Meticode
12-14-2011, 08:51 PM
I don't like the fact they gave up Gordon for this. I thought Gordon+Griffin were a good young combo. This might change my feelings if they get a decent shooting guard some how.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:52 PM
I don't like the fact they gave up Gordon for this. I thought Gordon+Griffin are a good young combo. This might change my feelings if they get a decent shooting guard some how.

Jamal Crawford? Maybe?

At this point I'm just expecting us to sign Sasha Vujacic to a $10 million dollar deal.

Collie
12-14-2011, 08:54 PM
but who wants mo williams? is there a single team?

Maybe to the Hawks for Hinrich or Crawford? I recall Kirk defending shooting guards pretty well.

Meticode
12-14-2011, 08:54 PM
but who wants mo williams? is there a single team?
Mo Williams would suck Pat Riley's dick to be a Heat.

Bird
12-14-2011, 08:55 PM
Damn, they got both pick and Gordon.

If Howard had to be dealt, I would have loved that.

I really think this pick is going to be worse than most do.

The depth and youth on the Wolves will help them quite a bit this season and I could see them being a sleeper team, late in the season, to steal some wins just because of their young legs.

I wouldn't be surprised to see that pick land on the outside of the top 10, which takes away quite a bit from the value of the pick, in my opinion.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 08:55 PM
Gordon was on a bus with Clips season-ticket holders, going to fan stops, when he got the news. "Awkward," one says. Another: "Looked sad."

https://twitter.com/#!/SHowardCooper/status/147115483638931457

alanLA92
12-14-2011, 08:55 PM
lmao if this trade is vetoed too. :lol

ImmortalD24
12-14-2011, 08:55 PM
Congrats to the Clips. :applause:

hawkfan
12-14-2011, 08:56 PM
Paul and Billups on offense? It's like having two basketball geniuses on the court.

One of the smartest basketball teams in the league.

MooseJuiceBowen
12-14-2011, 08:56 PM
i bet blake is pissed

Al Thornton
12-14-2011, 08:57 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/SHowardCooper/status/147115483638931457

this is the reason and the only reason this trade sucks. they're giving up a young star who genuinely likes being here for a guy who might leave in 2 years.

Collie
12-14-2011, 08:57 PM
Mo Williams would suck Pat Riley's dick to be a Heat.

Healthy Mike Miller would actually be a good fit for the Clips. Good off the ball player, efficient, doesn't need many shots and has good size.

Z Saber
12-14-2011, 08:57 PM
https://twitter.com/#!/SHowardCooper/status/147115483638931457

:(

veilside23
12-14-2011, 08:58 PM
not a bad trade for clippers are people seems it is too much. gordon may not even be an allstar and he is always injured.

you got cp3 who makes the players around him better. just look at what cp3 did to chandler where is chandler now? imagine what cp3 can do for DJ . and Blake.. it will be alley-oop town... you still have caron butler and gomes.

trade mo williams for a decent sg and you are set. i just hope no one gets injured....


cp3 + blake and DJ.. scary big three for the years to come.

Bird
12-14-2011, 08:58 PM
the clippers gave away a future hall of famer with that minnesota pick

what a bad trade

I'm willing to bet this pick lands on the outside of the top ten...maybe outside of the lottery.

That Minnesota team has a lot of depth and talent and will steal some wins against teams that will rest their starters on those back to backs and the back to back to backs.

If any of the top teams clinch a spot early enough and the Wolves play them, they could steal some wins from teams resting their starters for the playoffs.

I think the Clippers will regret losing Gordon a LOT more than losing a possible late lottery pick.

hawkfan
12-14-2011, 08:59 PM
but who wants mo williams? is there a single team?

Then amnesty him and sign and trade Samuel Dalembert.

Dalembert and Griffin up front is fantastic defensively.

Or

Detroit gets

Mo Williams (expirer)

Clippers get

Charlie Villanueva

CV becomes a solid 6th man at 3 and 4.

The Pistons get rid of CV's contract.

KingBeasley08
12-14-2011, 08:59 PM
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

as a wiz fan, I hope the best for all teams that have had a history of struggling and its nice to see that the clippers can move to being an elite team

MooseJuiceBowen
12-14-2011, 09:00 PM
people under estimate chemistry and attitudes. whats this say about the clippers franchise?? they ****ed up once again and let a future star go. its going to set them back. whats this say to current clipper players now and future clipper players?? they always have to worry about being traded. guess im just lucky to be a spurs fan. we dont lose our stars. its all about chemistry

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 09:00 PM
this is the reason and the only reason this trade sucks. they're giving up a young star who genuinely likes being here for a guy who might leave in 2 years.

I think this trade sucks for multiple reasons, but this is one of them.

I mean Gordon was just telling the reports yesterday that he wanted to stay here long-term, and that he + Olshey were working on an extension.

But I should have known something was fishy when Neil Olshey said that "Gordon's extension wasn't a priority" until after they were done picking up Billups.

DevilsAssassin
12-14-2011, 09:00 PM
That^

hawkfan
12-14-2011, 09:00 PM
I'm willing to bet this pick lands on the outside of the top ten...maybe outside of the lottery.

That Minnesota team has a lot of depth and talent and will steal some wins against teams that will rest their starters on those back to backs and the back to back to backs.

If any of the top teams clinch a spot early enough and the Wolves play them, they could steal some wins from teams resting their starters for the playoffs.

I think the Clippers will regret losing Gordon a LOT more than losing a possible late lottery pick.

The biggest thing the Wolves have is Rick Adelman.
They should be a competitive team.

WhySoInsecure?
12-14-2011, 09:00 PM
this is the reason and the only reason this trade sucks. they're giving up a young star who genuinely likes being here for a guy who might leave in 2 years.
Why would he leave, he can't ask for anything better than playing with Blake in LA

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 09:01 PM
people under estimate chemistry and attitudes. whats this say about the clippers franchise?? they ****ed up once again and let a future star go. its going to set them back. whats this say to current clipper players now and future clipper players?? they always have to worry about being traded. guess im just lucky to be a spurs fan. we dont lose our stars. its all about chemistry

I cannot believe I am actually agreeing with MooseJuice.

DevilsAssassin
12-14-2011, 09:01 PM
I'm willing to bet this pick lands on the outside of the top ten...maybe outside of the lottery.

That Minnesota team has a lot of depth and talent and will steal some wins against teams that will rest their starters on those back to backs and the back to back to backs.

If any of the top teams clinch a spot early enough and the Wolves play them, they could steal some wins from teams resting their starters for the playoffs.

I think the Clippers will regret losing Gordon a LOT more than losing a possible late lottery pick.

Agreed

Rnbizzle
12-14-2011, 09:02 PM
Then amnesty him and sign and trade Samuel Dalembert.

Dalembert and Griffin up front is fantastic defensively.

Or

Detroit gets

Mo Williams (expirer)

Clippers get

Charlie Villanueva

CV becomes a solid 6th man at 3 and 4.

The Pistons get rid of CV's contract.
Both are very unlikely to happen.

Qwyjibo
12-14-2011, 09:02 PM
Too much to give up.

Paul is incredibly good but has an injury history and an uncertain long-term outlook contract-wise. I wouldn't have given up both Gordon and the pick. One of them or I'd walk away.

This is a hell of a deal to start rebuilding with for the Hornets though.

DuMa
12-14-2011, 09:02 PM
im shocked.

Aussie Dunker
12-14-2011, 09:02 PM
Billups can defend 2 guards pretty well. Would love to see Rip join the clips and have a 3 guard rotation of:

Paul / Hamilton / Billups

Chemistry and experience and leadership would be insane... Would develop a winning culture at the clips...

baseketball4life
12-14-2011, 09:03 PM
Billups going to play the 2 now? he can guard 2s for sure IMO, and would be a great off the ball spot up shooter and penetrator next to Paul.

Collie
12-14-2011, 09:03 PM
people under estimate chemistry and attitudes. whats this say about the clippers franchise?? they ****ed up once again and let a future star go. its going to set them back. whats this say to current clipper players now and future clipper players?? they always have to worry about being traded. guess im just lucky to be a spurs fan. we dont lose our stars. its all about chemistry

You can say pretty much the same about every non contending team.

baseketball4life
12-14-2011, 09:03 PM
I also think LAC gave up too much, but they had to, Stern would not have it any other way.

CP3/Billups/Caron/Griffin/DeAndre looks real nice with Foye, Mo Williams off the bench among others?

Al Thornton
12-14-2011, 09:04 PM
Why would he leave, he can't ask for anything better than playing with Blake in LA

again its the clippers

did you forget that blake griffin missed his whole rookie year? that the pick they traded for mo williams was the number one pick in the last draft? who knows what could happen.

NuggetsFan
12-14-2011, 09:05 PM
Hornets just set themselves up for an extremely fast rebuild depending on there scouting. Gordon with the Hornets now is still a pretty shitty team I imagine. So they basically get Gordon and a high lotto pick(minny pick) plus there own lottery pick this year. If they hit on one of those picks this year, combined with Gordon future looks pretty bright.

Clippers probably gave up too much but Chris Paul + Blake is an enticing combo. Would be hard to turn it down based on potential with Blake\Gordon\Minny pick. With Paul\Blake + what they have now there team's ready to compete.

MooseJuiceBowen
12-14-2011, 09:05 PM
You can say pretty much the same about every non contending team.

yes but we dont see it nearly as much with other organizations. it happens ALL THE TIME with the clippers. on a consistant basis.

BGriffin's Dad
12-14-2011, 09:06 PM
people under estimate chemistry and attitudes. whats this say about the clippers franchise?? they ****ed up once again and let a future star go. its going to set them back. whats this say to current clipper players now and future clipper players?? they always have to worry about being traded. guess im just lucky to be a spurs fan. we dont lose our stars. its all about chemistry

you're pathetic, brotha. :lol

before this trade you were saying Gordon was shit and the Clips had no chance at CP3.

and before the Caron Butler trade you were saying he was a great veteran and definitely headed for the Spurs.

L-O-L

hawkfan
12-14-2011, 09:06 PM
I really do hope the Clippers make the playoffs this year.

It's bad for the league when the face of the new generation, Blake Griffin, is not in the playoffs.

Now he has two basketball geniuses to play with, Paul and Billups. They will make him a much, much better player. And then he has a real pro's pro in Butler, who will make him better.

Add a few more pieces and let's have the Clipppers playing in the post season.

vinvin01
12-14-2011, 09:06 PM
I really thought Clippers wouldn't make a deal with Minny pick AND Gordon !

I don't really know if that's good for the Clippers. I guess they could have used the minny pick to get a really good player able to play right away and keep Gordon, that would have made a deeper team.

No they just have to hope so veterans want to sign for little money to play with CP3.

IGOTGAME
12-14-2011, 09:06 PM
Hornets just set themselves up for an extremely fast rebuild depending on there scouting. Gordon with the Hornets now is still a pretty shitty team I imagine. So they basically get Gordon and a high lotto pick(minny pick) plus there own lottery pick this year. If they hit on one of those picks this year, combined with Gordon future looks pretty bright.

Clippers probably gave up too much but Chris Paul + Blake is an enticing combo. Would be hard to turn it down based on potential with Blake\Gordon\Minny pick. With Paul\Blake + what they have now there team's ready to compete.

only downside is that Minnesota might not be that bad.

ballsohard247
12-14-2011, 09:07 PM
I cannot believe I am actually agreeing with MooseJuice.
:roll:

WhySoInsecure?
12-14-2011, 09:07 PM
again its the clippers

did you forget that blake griffin missed his whole rookie year? that the pick they traded for mo williams was the number one pick in the last draft? who knows what could happen.
why don't they just fold the franchise?
how many games did Kaman and EJ miss last season?

MooseJuiceBowen
12-14-2011, 09:09 PM
you're pathetic, brotha. :lol

before this trade you were saying Gordon was shit and the Clips had no chance at CP3.

and before the Caron Butler trade you were saying he was a great veteran and definitely headed for the Spurs.

L-O-L

quote me where I said either of those things besides caron butler. Alot of teams would of liked to have butler. I have good things to say about all 3 of those players. this is still a bad trade for the clippers. gordon is a beast. by the time cp3 and blake develop chemistry its time for one of them to go lol. man

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 09:09 PM
If Gordon was traded partially due to how much he wanted to resign for, this is Deandre Jordan's fault too. That idiot took an extra $3 million for himself and he still can't shoot a god damn free throw.

Absolutely useless.

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 09:10 PM
I would love for Sterling to void this trade for basketball reasons.
:oldlol:

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 09:10 PM
If Gordon was traded partially due to how much he wanted to resign for, this is Deandre Jordan's fault too. That idiot took an extra $3 million for himself and he still can't shoot a god damn free throw.

Absolutely useless.

Jordan's going to look ridiculously good next to Paul.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 09:11 PM
I would love for Sterling to void this trade for basketball reasons.
:oldlol:


+1

InspiredLebowski
12-14-2011, 09:11 PM
When Bird leaves I want Stern to run the Pacers. That's a HAUL.

ihatetimthomas
12-14-2011, 09:11 PM
I really thought Clippers wouldn't make a deal with Minny pick AND Gordon !

I don't really know if that's good for the Clippers. I guess they could have used the minny pick to get a really good player able to play right away and keep Gordon, that would have made a deeper team.

No they just have to hope so veterans want to sign for little money to play with CP3.

At some point, you have to just start building a team rather than continually get young prospects. The Clippers feel with Griffin, they can now actually build a team rather than bank on getting a superstar though draft.

AMISTILLILL
12-14-2011, 09:11 PM
Watch as this team starts to win games and all these people defaming the trade suddenly start to disappear.

JellyBean
12-14-2011, 09:11 PM
Here's a question: what do Clippers do now that they have FOUR point guards, three of which could understandably be a starting point guard for a playoff team (Paul, Billups, Williams), and one that could use quite a bit of time to develop (Bledsoe)? Billups can't be traded. Do they ship away Williams or Bledsoe? Or play one of those guys at the 2?

Dbrog
12-14-2011, 09:11 PM
That's what the ESPN ticker said. Stern isn't going to pull another void out of his ass this time, hopefully.

This would mean Paul won't be traded. Clippers are getting absolutely raped in this deal. Their lineup was amazing without this.

Billups
Gordon
Butler
Griffin
DeAndre

Don't forget, potential to have top 5 pick in outstanding draft. Imagine if the Clips hadn't traded for Mo. They would have Kyrie too! LOL

Situation couldn't be better for the Hornets with this trade (although Bledsoe being left out?). Imagine the possibilities if they ended up with 2 top 5 picks.

Jack
Gordon
Ariza
Anthony Davis
Drummond

I would take out a bunch of loans and buy that team! :bowdown: :applause:

Oh btw, on NBA.com now = http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/12/14/paul-to-clippers/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

ConanRulesNBC
12-14-2011, 09:12 PM
Wow. The Lakers got screwed here. The Clippers offer is not better than what the Lakers were offering and who the Hornets would gotten from the Rockets.

The thing is though do the Clippers know CP3 is going to re-sign with them or just hope he does after this season? CP3 might end up signing with the Lakers who would then get to keep Bynum and Gasol.

yobore
12-14-2011, 09:12 PM
If Gordon was traded partially due to how much he wanted to resign for, this is Deandre Jordan's fault too. That idiot took an extra $3 million for himself and he still can't shoot a god damn free throw.

Absolutely useless.
Willing to bet Jordan turns out to be much higher impact player than Gordon. Think Joe Johnson vs. Chandler who doesn't miss 2 of every 3 years to injury

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 09:12 PM
Jordan's going to look ridiculously good next to Paul.

Everyone looks good to Paul, though. Jordan absolutely cannot create for himself, has zero post moves, zero basketball IQ, and is just an athletic defender.

That is what we're paying him $11 million for.

Al Thornton
12-14-2011, 09:13 PM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw7z86AMmC1qjkukyo1_500.jpg

:cry:

InspiredLebowski
12-14-2011, 09:13 PM
I'm being serious, does the rest of the NBA let Demps give Gordon a huge extension?

DevilsAssassin
12-14-2011, 09:13 PM
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw7z86AMmC1qjkukyo1_500.jpg

:cry:

:cry:

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 09:13 PM
+1

I don't know why you're so upset. Gordon's not a franchise player, despite what some of you think. He's more of a Luol Deng than a Kobe Bryant if you catch my drift. Kaman wanted out, so you killed two birds with one stone there. The only downside is giving up that Minny pick, and chances are it would've been a low lottery pick at that.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 09:13 PM
Willing to bet Jordan turns out to be much higher impact player than Gordon. Think Joe Johnson vs. Chandler who doesn't miss 2 of every 3 years to injury

Deandre Jordan would need to develop a brain to be anything close to Tyson Chandler.

LA_Showtime
12-14-2011, 09:14 PM
Everyone looks good to Paul, though. Jordan absolutely cannot create for himself, has zero post moves, zero basketball IQ, and is just an athletic defender.

That is what we're paying him $11 million for.

Well if you have Chris Paul then maybe Jordan's size alone will be worth the investment.

DuMa
12-14-2011, 09:14 PM
Clippers need a lot more center/pf depth than their needs at SG. they have only Brian Cook right now behind Blake/DJ

Al Thornton
12-14-2011, 09:14 PM
I don't know why you're so upset. Gordon's not a franchise player, despite what some of you think. He's more of a Luol Deng than a Kobe Bryant if you catch my drift. Kaman wanted out, so you killed two birds with one stone there. The only downside is giving up that Minny pick, and chances are it would've been a low lottery pick at that.

never watched the clippers play.............has opinions on clippers players.......

vinvin01
12-14-2011, 09:15 PM
At some point, you have to just start building a team rather than continually get young prospects. The Clippers feel with Griffin, they can now actually build a team rather than bank on getting a superstar though draft.

My bad I didn't make myself clear (well I've an excuse as I'm not from an english speaking country). What I meant is that the minny pick obviously had trade value, so they could have used it in a trade to get a good player who can help right away. Griffin+Gordon+Jordan+Butler+Billups+whatever they can get with the minny pick.
Not that bad !

But I guess you can't call it a bad deal when you get CP3 anyway.

Fiasco
12-14-2011, 09:15 PM
I don't know why you're so upset. Gordon's not a franchise player, despite what some of you think. He's more of a Luol Deng than a Kobe Bryant if you catch my drift. Kaman wanted out, so you killed two birds with one stone there. The only downside is giving up that Minny pick, and chances are it would've been a low lottery pick at that.

I already explained why I was upset earlier in the thread....

maybe I'm just foolish. I was an Eric Gordon fan before I was a Blake fan. This is just tragic, man.


http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw7z86AMmC1qjkukyo1_500.jpg

:cry:

:(

knickscity
12-14-2011, 09:15 PM
For a rental?

:facepalm

yobore
12-14-2011, 09:15 PM
Everyone looks good to Paul, though. Jordan absolutely cannot create for himself, has zero post moves, zero basketball IQ, and is just an athletic defender.

That is what we're paying him $11 million for.
It's what you pay tall athletic centers with his potential. He can get a few dunks a game setting screens or at least create a bunch of openings by threatening to do so. He is pretty much the same player TC was going to the Hornets with a higher ceiling. That is a fair price tag that is more likely to turn into a bargain than a bad deal

IGOTGAME
12-14-2011, 09:15 PM
I don't know why you're so upset. Gordon's not a franchise player, despite what some of you think. He's more of a Luol Deng than a Kobe Bryant if you catch my drift. Kaman wanted out, so you killed two birds with one stone there. The only downside is giving up that Minny pick, and chances are it would've been a low lottery pick at that.

+1