Dark Knight Rises Trailer 2

[Myth]

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/CoastToCoastStation/news/?a=51366

It is a recording from a theater, but good quality considering that it.

[Sarcastic]

http://www.eonline.com/news/dark_knight_risesmdashsecrets_revealed/276416

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Marion Cotillard is hot. Trailer looks good, hopefully it lives up to expectations.

[Meticode]

Doesn't work. I'm trying to find a working link through Google.

[Meticode]

Also if you wait they'll be an actual HD version out on Apples website on the 19th.

[Sarcastic]

Also if you wait they'll be an actual HD version out on Apples website on the 19th.

72 hours? :roll: :roll: :roll:

[DonDadda59]

Doesn't work. I'm trying to find a working link through Google.

Kind of choppy but you can make it out

http://www.megavideo.com/?d=Q0T4WADJ

[Myth]

Doesn't work. I'm trying to find a working link through Google.

Hmmm... still works for me. I'm using Firefox if that helps.

[ConanRulesNBC]

So pumped for this movie. I LOVE Batman. He's always been my favorite comic book character. I still remember seeing the Michael Keaton '89 Batman at the show with my dad and then dressing up as Batman for Halloween.

Nolan has done an amazing job with both movies but The Dark Knight is one of those rare times when the sequel is better than the original and it wouldn't surprise me if The Dark Knight Rises is actually better than The Dark Knight.

[Stuckey]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Sktgm0aD8

here u go

[Meticode]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Sktgm0aD8

here u go
That's the first trailer, there's a new 2 minute trailer out that shows a bunch of new stuff including Anne Hathaway finally.

[Meticode]

What the hell was going on with that football shit?
Don't know, don't care until the movie. No spoiling!

[Hotlantadude81]

Marion Cotillard is hot. Trailer looks good, hopefully it lives up to expectations.

Yeah, she caught my eye when she won the award at the 2007 Academy Awards.

http://s11.allstarpics.net/images/orig/1/q/1q98lcjw0f4lf0lc.jpg

http://images.sodahead.com/slideshows/000000609/marion-cotillard-00-630-13715390727_xlarge.jpeg

[DonDadda59]

They're gonna have the lazarus pit in this one, aren't they? I'm thinking that's where the whole 'rises' theme is going. Hanz Zimmer had a site set up where people can add their voice to the Bane chant that's been floating around, he wants to make it a worldwide project that includes fans:

The Site (http://www.ujam.com/campaigns/darkknightrises/introduction)

The Result (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBZ9i5BNjvE&feature=related)

The trailer revealed that it means 'Rise'. And there's been pics and reports from the set that they built a green screen lazarus pit. I thought Nolan wanted to keep things as realistic as possible, would be a curveball if they introduced a supernatural pit with resurrecting/healing powers. But I guess they could always explain it away scientifically somehow.

But Josh Pence will be playing a young Ra's Al Ghul/Henri Ducard in a flashback. I'm guessing it will revolve around him saving a young Bane's life using the pit and training him.

Could also work into my theory that Batman dies in this one... but then after a dip in the magic water, the dark knight rises :D

From the DKR India set:

http://bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/Dark-Knight-Rises-India-Lazarus-Pit-260x160.jpg

[Lucifer]

^Did you watch the trailer or prologue jackazz? The chanting in the background means rises. bruce explicitly asks that old dude in the middle of the trailer what it means. also, bane says "the fire rises" in the trailer as well. it's a phrase for bane and his mercenaries as they run wild on gotham. the title of film also suggest that batman will "rise" as well and stop them. it can also be a double meaning to him getting his azz beat (bane unmasks him, and bruce has been seen walking with a cane), picking himself up ( batman begins quote), and getting back up to beat the $hit out of bane and his mercenaries at the end.


and all i see is a circle with green screen. i doubt it's lazarus pit, but if it is, at the most it's those canisters bane has on him that suppresses the pain via his mask. it's not some resurrection tool like in the comics you idiot. nolan wouldn't go that route.

jackazz

And Batman's not going to die in this movie. Nolan's too smart to go the "easy" martyr route.

[ROCSteady]

What was everyone's opinion of the prologue?

What did you think of Bane's voice?

Personally, I love his voice. It sounds like a mix of a mechanized version of accented Russian/Eastern Euro and like Scottish or something.

I still haven't been able to find a decent version of trailer number 2. :rant

I did catch the part where Hines Ward scores a TD with the field imploding behind him and him not even noticing :oldlol:

[Riddler]

Where the F*CK IS IT???

Can't find it anywhere on the internet.

[Meticode]

What was everyone's opinion of the prologue?

What did you think of Bane's voice?

Personally, I love his voice. It sounds like a mix of a mechanized version of accented Russian/Eastern Euro and like Scottish or something.

I still haven't been able to find a decent version of trailer number 2. :rant

I did catch the part where Hines Ward scores a TD with the field imploding behind him and him not even noticing :oldlol:
I watched the first minute of the prologue and turned it off because i felt it was spoiling it from me. Bane's voice is fine i think. The fact that it's a cam quality preview with crappy audio quality also hurts the audio. his voice will be completely fine.

The movie looks good from the previews.

The second trailer will be in HD on the 19th so if people can actually wait you'll see a better quality that's worth the wait then.

[Gundress]

It looks good.

But one problem is Anne Hathaway as Catwoman and I am still not sure about it.

[DonDadda59]

^Did you watch the trailer or prologue jackazz? The chanting in the background means rises. bruce explicitly asks that old dude in the middle of the trailer what it means. also, bane says "the fire rises" in the trailer as well. it's a phrase for bane and his mercenaries as they run wild on gotham. the title of film also suggest that batman will "rise" as well and stop them. it can also be a double meaning to him getting his azz beat (bane unmasks him, and bruce has been seen walking with a cane), picking himself up ( batman begins quote), and getting back up to beat the $hit out of bane and his mercenaries at the end.

You had me at 'jackazz', a new relationship just blossomed. I'm going to bury you in your own blood and vomit :cheers:

Anyway, to answer your questions- I did not see the prologue, was going to wait to see it on IMAX.



and all i see is a circle with green screen. i doubt it's lazarus pit, but if it is, at the most it's those canisters bane has on him that suppresses the pain via his mask. it's not some resurrection tool like in the comics you idiot. nolan wouldn't go that route.

jackazz

From India (the set with the possible Lazarus pit), the times publication and DKR fan news:


Incidentally, a green screen was created just outside the Fort. Nolan shot in front of the green screen and used the Fort as the backdrop. Sources say that this backdrop of the Fort has been used to establish that Batman is in an exotic location which is isolated too. However, this backdrop isn't meant to be shown as India in the film. Back in the UK studios, this 30 ft x 30 ft green screen will be digitally modified to create the Lazarus Pit. For those not in the loop, a Lazarus Pit is used by Ra's Al Ghul for gaining restorative powers. Scenes of Bale being carried into the pit and then jumping out of it were also canned. A couple of locals were cast as extras in the scenes that were shot in India.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-05-10/news-interviews/29525525_1_christian-bale-batman-christopher-nolan


[INDENT]Eyewitnesses and crew members told us of a particular scene being filmed,

[Lucifer]

^Let me educate you child.

Firstly, all you did was reaffirm my point :roll: The makeup designer has confirmed that bane has 2 canisters on him at all time, feeding into his mask, in some kind of aerosol form that suppresses pain due to an injury. IF it is the lazarus pit, the form we're going to see is something that reduces pain NOT grant immortality and ressurection a la the comics. Batman's noto goin to die then rise from the effin pit. jackazz :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

As for the martyr route is easy. the jesus christ paralell, messiah, saviour, etc all that grandeur $hit has been beaten to death. Harvey Dent was NOT a martyr, that was a cover up and plot tool by Nolan LOL damn you really don't get these movies do you? as for batman, i'm goin with what the teaser trailer said and what he set out to do in batman begins, that was to devote himself to some ideal and inspire gotham to take back their city. by the end of the dark knight rises he'll accomplish that and bring about this mentality in gotham, which can be seen in the riots videos where GCPD and gotham citizens are taking a stand along with batman in a fist fight on the streets. batman's going to be the symbol, but it's gonna end in some V for vendetta $hit where it's the citizens of gotham that ultimately decide their fate. bruce has said batman can't do this forever, and at the end of this movie he won't need to. the trivial $hit like the mob, corrupt judges, etc will all be abolished, if not absent at the beginning of the dark knight rises ALREADY. Batman's return is because of a terrorist like bane. once he takes him down he'll hang the cowl up again, cuz gotham will have their city back. they're going to leave it open ended though with batman continuing to be that watchful protector if the city ever needs him again. one thing about nolan's batmans is that, batman isn't some vigilante who needs to have a presence nightly. the dark knight and the dark knight rises has an 8 year gap, and it's been relatively peaceful since then. i think their going to end it with if there's ever a need for a batman he'll be there setting up a potential "dark knight returns" movie 10 years later.


Simple azz nikka. i bet you thought the batman and robin screenplay was complex if you're gonna throw these wack ass theories out there.

[DJmicah]

d-_-b
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9caPFPQUNs

[EnoughSaid]

I've been playing Batman: Arkham City and I've fallen in love with the world of Batman. So much intense, cool stuff. But how come Bane in here looks small and fragile unlike the Titan-infected one? Has he not touched the Titan stuff yet?

[DonDadda59]

^Let me educate you child.

Firstly, all you did was reaffirm my point :roll: The makeup designer has confirmed that bane has 2 canisters on him at all time, feeding into his mask, in some kind of aerosol form that suppresses pain due to an injury. IF it is the lazarus pit, the form we're going to see is something that reduces pain NOT grant immortality and ressurection a la the comics. Batman's noto goin to die then rise from the effin pit. jackazz :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

You sure do like smileys. But like I originally said, it would be strange for Nolan's world to feature something as supernatural as the pit that can resurrect the dead. There will most likely be some sort of scientific explanation for the abilities of the pit to heal/rejuvenate people. But even still, a pool that somehow magically dissipates pain is still a departure from Nolan's relatively reality-based world. You would agree, no?

But we already know that a young Bane is seriously injured enough that he needs whatever is in that pool/canisters to keep him alive or at least pain free, probably due to his fall while climbing up that well (a nice parallel to young Bruce in Begins). And there's reports from the set in India saying that they filmed Bale being carried into the pit and jumping out. So we're free to draw our own conclusions until the movie actually comes out.


As for the martyr route is easy. the jesus christ paralell, messiah, saviour, etc all that grandeur $hit has been beaten to death. i'm goin with what the teaser trailer said and what he set out to do in batman begins, that was to devote himself to some ideal and inspire gotham to take back their city. by the end of the dark knight rises he'll accomplish that and bring about this mentality in gotham, which can be seen in the riots videos where GCPD and gotham citizens are taking a stand along with batman in a fist fight on the streets. batman's going to be the symbol, but it's gonna end in some V for vendetta $hit where it's the citizens of gotham that ultimately decide their fate. bruce has said batman can't do this forever, and at the end the city won't require him anymore. they're going to leave it open ended though with batman continuing to be that watchful protector if the city ever needs him again. one thing about nolan's batmans is that, batman isn't some vigilante who needs to have a presence nightly. the dark knight and the dark knight rises has an 8 year gap, and it's been relatively peaceful since then. i think their going to end it with if there's ever a need for a batman he'll be there setting up a potential "dark knight returns" movie 10 years later.

Again, killing off an iconic figure like Batman would not be 'easy' in any, way, shape, or form. Not artistically and not practically because the studio would have a heart attack and make life hell for Nolan. Bale and Nolan have both made it clear that they are not doing any more Batman movies after this. This is the culmination, the story and the legend is conclusively ended in this one. Doesn't sound very open-ended to me, but I'm sure Warner Brothers will pressure Nolan to leave it open for possible sequels.

I already covered my thoughts on what I think the narrative of the first 2 films was leading towards in the final film.

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=235324

At this point, your guess is as good as mine.


Simple azz nikka. i bet you thought the batman and robin screenplay was complex if you're gonna throw these wack ass theories out there.

You're too adorable. I'm gonna enjoy my time with you. We're gonna take it nice and slow, no need to rush.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Anyone see the prologue yet? Not the best quality but:
http://y2u.be/xGI4MUMJrbk

Nolan is going to do it again :bowdown:

[MK2V1GP]

I've been playing Batman: Arkham City and I've fallen in love with the world of Batman. So much intense, cool stuff. But how come Bane in here looks small and fragile unlike the Titan-infected one? Has he not touched the Titan stuff yet?

I just think Bane isn't all jacked up with venom running all through his body making him 8' tall and 400 lbs of pure muscle b/c Nolan's world of Batman is revolved around being as realistic as possible.

I still trust that Nolan will do Bane and this movie justice. I read an article recently where Nolan discussed Bane, and how in-depth he studied the character. He said in the movie, Bane is going to test Batman as physically as much as Joker did mentally in TDK, but Bane will also test Batman mentally as well.

[QuebecBaller]

I just think Bane isn't all jacked up with venom running all through his body making him 8' tall and 400 lbs of pure muscle b/c Nolan's world of Batman is revolved around being as realistic as possible.

I still trust that Nolan will do Bane and this movie justice. I read an article recently where Nolan discussed Bane, and how in-depth he studied the character. He said in the movie, Bane is going to test Batman as physically as much as Joker did mentally in TDK, but Bane will also test Batman mentally as well.

The new version of Bane can't be worst than this

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ffbD4Xm9iKc/TibUKQLQdoI/AAAAAAAABDY/zUuwzPRoHlQ/s1600/bane+poison+ivy.jpg

[Meticode]

I've been playing Batman: Arkham City and I've fallen in love with the world of Batman. So much intense, cool stuff. But how come Bane in here looks small and fragile unlike the Titan-infected one? Has he not touched the Titan stuff yet?
Bane is represented very poorly in the game I feel. I watched a whole walk-through of the game, about 30+ 15 minute parts and out of everyone he's represented the the most poorly to me.

First off in the comic book before Bane broke Batman's back he used a drug called Venom to give him super-human strength. After Bane is brought down by Batman's temporary successor (Azrael) and Bane goes to prison he becomes even more powerful by detoxing from the drug Venom to become self-reliant on his skills and only strength only.

While Venom gave him super-human strength, it also had side effects as well, but I can't remember why.

This is a good representation of Bane in the comics...

http://comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/11631/batman%206%2028%20bane-kills.jpg

...ask for what happens to Bane after that I don't know since I don't follow the comics anymore. He might be back on Venom or now Titan for all I know, but at least when I followed the comics and he was introduced he was described as being about 6'8" and like 275 pounds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bane_%28comics%29


Bane is highly intelligent; in Bane of the Demon, Ra's al Ghul says that Bane "has a mind equal to the greatest he has known."[8] In prison, he taught himself various scientific disciplines equal to the level of understanding of leading experts in those fields.[4] He knows six active languages and at least two additional arcane and dead ones. Among these are Spanish, English, Urdu, Argh, Persian, and Latin.[8][37] The Bane of the Demon storyline reveals that he has a photographic memory. Within one year, he is able to deduce Batman's secret identity.[8]

He is also highly devious and a superb strategist and tactician.[4] In prison, Bane also invented his own form of calisthenics, meditation, and a unique fighting style.[8] Usage of Venom enhances his physical abilities, including his strength, and healing process to superhuman levels.[5][38][39] Although Bane had sworn off using Venom in Vengeance of Bane II in 1995, and his character is actually written as having kept that promise to himself, it is still not uncommon for artists to draw Bane as still wearing the tube leading from his old wrist device to the back of his head, as well as almost all media adaptions of the character show him actively using the Venom compound. Writer Gail Simone explained these lapses in the continuity of Bane's appearance in an issue of Secret Six, in which Deadshot remarked that Bane merely kept his old Venom equipment with him out of habit, even though he states that he would sooner die than use it again.

[ROCSteady]

^Let me educate you child.

Firstly, all you did was reaffirm my point :roll: The makeup designer has confirmed that bane has 2 canisters on him at all time, feeding into his mask, in some kind of aerosol form that suppresses pain due to an injury. IF it is the lazarus pit, the form we're going to see is something that reduces pain NOT grant immortality and ressurection a la the comics. Batman's noto goin to die then rise from the effin pit. jackazz :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

As for the martyr route is easy. the jesus christ paralell, messiah, saviour, etc all that grandeur $hit has been beaten to death. Harvey Dent was NOT a martyr, that was a cover up and plot tool by Nolan LOL damn you really don't get these movies do you? as for batman, i'm goin with what the teaser trailer said and what he set out to do in batman begins, that was to devote himself to some ideal and inspire gotham to take back their city. by the end of the dark knight rises he'll accomplish that and bring about this mentality in gotham, which can be seen in the riots videos where GCPD and gotham citizens are taking a stand along with batman in a fist fight on the streets. batman's going to be the symbol, but it's gonna end in some V for vendetta $hit where it's the citizens of gotham that ultimately decide their fate. bruce has said batman can't do this forever, and at the end of this movie he won't need to. the trivial $hit like the mob, corrupt judges, etc will all be abolished, if not absent at the beginning of the dark knight rises ALREADY. Batman's return is because of a terrorist like bane. once he takes him down he'll hang the cowl up again, cuz gotham will have their city back. they're going to leave it open ended though with batman continuing to be that watchful protector if the city ever needs him again. one thing about nolan's batmans is that, batman isn't some vigilante who needs to have a presence nightly. the dark knight and the dark knight rises has an 8 year gap, and it's been relatively peaceful since then. i think their going to end it with if there's ever a need for a batman he'll be there setting up a potential "dark knight returns" movie 10 years later.


Simple azz nikka. i bet you thought the batman and robin screenplay was complex if you're gonna throw these wack ass theories out there.

Do you really have to be such an ass hole about something as arbitrary as an unknown plot in a Batman movie?

[ROCSteady]

I watched the first minute of the prologue and turned it off because i felt it was spoiling it from me. Bane's voice is fine i think. The fact that it's a cam quality preview with crappy audio quality also hurts the audio. his voice will be completely fine.

The movie looks good from the previews.

The second trailer will be in HD on the 19th so if people can actually wait you'll see a better quality that's worth the wait then.


Yea I can completely understand, I just always HAVE to get a taste of the new villain when its available.

Can't wait to see a studio released version of the trailer

[Meticode]

Yea I can completely understand, I just always HAVE to get a taste of the new villain when its available.

Can't wait to see a studio released version of the trailer
It's not even worth it to me to watch the cam trailer. I can't make out half of what they say or do in it anyway. :oldlol:

[Lucifer]

Do you really have to be such an ass hole about something as arbitrary as an unknown plot in a Batman movie?


This is insidehoops not oprah.com, go hard or go home

[Lucifer]

You sure do like smileys. But like I originally said, it would be strange for Nolan's world to feature something as supernatural as the pit that can resurrect the dead. There will most likely be some sort of scientific explanation for the abilities of the pit to heal/rejuvenate people. But even still, a pool that somehow magically dissipates pain is still a departure from Nolan's relatively reality-based world. You would agree, no?

But we already know that a young Bane is seriously injured enough that he needs whatever is in that pool/canisters to keep him alive or at least pain free, probably due to his fall while climbing up that well (a nice parallel to young Bruce in Begins). And there's reports from the set in India saying that they filmed Bale being carried into the pit and jumping out. So we're free to draw our own conclusions until the movie actually comes out.



Again, killing off an iconic figure like Batman would not be 'easy' in any, way, shape, or form. Not artistically and not practically because the studio would have a heart attack and make life hell for Nolan. Bale and Nolan have both made it clear that they are not doing any more Batman movies after this. This is the culmination, the story and the legend is conclusively ended in this one. Doesn't sound very open-ended to me, but I'm sure Warner Brothers will pressure Nolan to leave it open for possible sequels.

I already covered my thoughts on what I think the narrative of the first 2 films was leading towards in the final film.

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=235324

At this point, your guess is as good as mine.



You're too adorable. I'm gonna enjoy my time with you. We're gonna take it nice and slow, no need to rush.


Damn this kid never learns. Let the education continue..

1) What does that point about the pit have anything to do with you claiming it has a ressurection purpose initially? I'M the one who brought up that IF it exists in the film, it's probably going to function as a pain suppressant. No, that's not a departure in Nolan's batman. There are drugs out there that have similar effects. The parallel stuff with Bruce/Bane is pretty obvious nothing to argue there about. Although less superficial with the falling in the well stuff, but more post-bruce's parents death i.e. the moment where raz told bruce to behead the prisoner, bane would have probably done it. bane is essentially what bruce would have evolved into if he adopted that mentality. i wouldn't say the antithesis of batman, but something along those lines. Wouldn't be surprised if Bane turns out to be the assassin that Raz envisioned for Bruce, but clearly having some flaw seeing how he wasn't by his side in Batman Begins. That flaw might be his downfall at the end...

2) The open ending thing is just my theory, which is more plausible in Nolan's frame of thinking then the easy martry route. The definitive end is Bruce's character arc. You simple minded nikkas needed to stop thinking that an event needs to happen to close this series, and start looking at themes, and questions, and how a story arc for a character can be closed. Why did he become Batman? What was he trying to accomplish? How can he find closure with his parents death? How can he stop blaming himself for Racheal and Harvey? 8 years have passed since the events of TDK, and Nolan has said that we're going to see a Bruce Wayne whose life is in somewhat disaaray, he's strayed off from the path he set forth in BB. the "devote yourself to an ideal" line personally to me says that he's needs to redisover and redefine what Batman is for himself to answer all those questions. At the end he'll find closure in everything and somewhat ride off in the sunset, knowing that he changed Gotham for good, something his father tried to do for years. In the process he's going to take a beatdown mentally and physically until he inevitable "rises" above to take back the city with Gordon/JGL's character/Catwoman/GCPD and Gotham's citizens in a climactic fight.


I bet you think a Batman grabbing some bomb, then putting it in the batwing flying in the sky to blow it up brings closure to a trilogy :roll: . It's just too damn simple, there's no closure. I mean if this were Star Wars, the force wouldn't be balanced at the end, only the task at hand would be completed. This is the same Nolan who brought us Inception, Memento, The Prestige, and the Batmans. Movies RICH with themes and complexity. the martry route is too EASY. Eff flash over substance with some spectacle at the end with batman dying, this isn't the matrix revolutions.

Also, notice how there's a ton of articles with other people speculating that Bruce is gonna die at the end? Once again, it's TOO easy if that chatter is coming up after a teaser trailer. Nolan knows that. the legend ends tagline is a marketing tool to hint and gauge interest, as well as a way to say it's the last one. is he going to die? it's the last move? is all the rave these days i.e Harry potter deathly hallows 2


Lastly, when is making homo jokes cool? kids these days.

[DonDadda59]

Damn this kid never learns. Let the education continue..

There's nothing you can 'educate' me on, believe that. I've forgotten more about film and narrative structure than you'll ever learn :oldlol:


1) What does that point about the pit have anything to do with you claiming it has a ressurection purpose initially? I'M the one who brought up that IF it exists in the film, it's probably going to function as a pain suppressant. No, that's not a departure in Nolan's batman. There are drugs out there that have similar effects. The parallel stuff with Bruce/Bane is pretty obvious nothing to argue there about. Although less superficial with the falling in the well stuff, but more post-bruce's parents death i.e. the moment where raz told bruce to behead the prisoner, bane would have probably done it. bane is essentially what bruce would have evolved into if he adopted that mentality. i wouldn't say the antithesis of batman, but something along those lines. Wouldn't be surprised if Bane turns out to be the assassin that Raz envisioned for Bruce, but clearly having some flaw seeing how he wasn't by his side in Batman Begins. That flaw might be his downfall at the end...

This is what I said: "And there's been pics and reports from the set that they built a green screen lazarus pit. I thought Nolan wanted to keep things as realistic as possible, would be a curveball if they introduced a supernatural pit with resurrecting/healing powers. But I guess they could always explain it away scientifically somehow."

Made it clear that a supernatural healing/resurrection pit would be a departure from the world Nolan created world, but if they do have the Lazarus pit in the film, and it appears they do- then there would be some plausible scientific explanation for its functions, whatever they may be.


2) The open ending thing is just my theory, which is more plausible in Nolan's frame of thinking then the easy martry route. The definitive end is Bruce's character arc. You simple minded nikkas needed to stop thinking that an event needs to happen to close this series, and start looking at themes, and questions, and how a story arc for a character can be closed. Why did he become Batman? What was he trying to accomplish? How can he find closure with his parents death? How can he stop blaming himself for Racheal and Harvey? 8 years have passed since the events of TDK, and Nolan has said that we're going to see a Bruce Wayne whose life is in somewhat disaaray, he's strayed off from the path he set forth in BB. the "devote yourself to an ideal" line personally to me says that he's needs to redisover and redefine what Batman is for himself to answer all those questions. At the end he'll find closure in everything and somewhat ride off in the sunset, knowing that he changed Gotham for good, something his father tried to do for years. In the process he's going to take a beatdown mentally and physically until he inevitable "rises" above to take back the city with Gordon/JGL's character/Catwoman/GCPD and Gotham's citizens in a climactic fight.

As is my theory about Batman/Wayne's death, as I've made clear several times. But for some reason you think it would be 'easy' to kill an iconic figure like Batman? That makes no sense whatsoever. It would be a huge gamble artistically and obviously financially (for the studio at least). Nothing easy about that. As for you thinking that somehow martyrdom is beneath Nolan artistically, yeah you'd have a point... if he didn't already do it with Harvey Dent :oldlol:

"You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain", remember that.

And all of the questions you asked above I answered step by step in that link I provided and showed why I think things will end the way I'm theorizing once you look at the themes and big picture as a whole.


I bet you think a Batman grabbing some bomb, then putting it in the batwing flying in the sky to blow it up brings closure to a trilogy :roll: . It's just too damn simple, there's no closure. I mean if this were Star Wars, the force wouldn't be balanced at the end, only the task at hand would be completed. This is the same Nolan who brought us Inception, Memento, The Prestige, and the Batmans. Movies RICH with themes and complexity. the martry route is too EASY. Eff flash over substance with some spectacle at the end with batman dying, this isn't the matrix revolutions.

So killing off Batman/Wayne would be simple, but him riding off into the sunset after saving the day would be RICH in theme and complexity? That sounds like average, run-of-the-mill superhero movie fare to me.


Also, notice how there's a ton of articles with other people speculating that Bruce is gonna die at the end? Once again, it's TOO easy if that chatter is coming up after a teaser trailer. Nolan knows that. the legend ends tagline is a marketing tool to hint and gauge interest, as well as a way to say it's the last one. is he going to die? it's the last move? is all the rave these days i.e Harry potter deathly hallows 2


I could honestly give 2 shits about what articles or people are claiming AFTER the trailers and poster came out, because I was saying/thinking this long before any promotional materials even came out. I made my deduction based on the narrative of the previous 2 films. Just like how I told everyone here Jimmy Darmody was going to be killed on Boardwalk Empire, made that claim during mid season before anyone even thought it was a possibility. Everything the writers did during the season made it clear what they wanted to do with that character, and I was right. I draw my own conclusions, what others read into it is their business.

[Meticode]

Holy paragraphs Batman.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Wasn't the trailer supposed to be released today? Looking through youtube/apple (itunes), and don't see it.

[ROCSteady]

This is insidehoops not oprah.com, go hard or go home


I mean, aren't you already sitting at home behind a computer screen?

[MK2V1GP]

Wasn't the trailer supposed to be released today? Looking through youtube/apple (itunes), and don't see it.

This. If someone finds it, post it here.

[pete's montreux]

I've been reading theories that the reason so much footage has been released is because Nolan plans on debuting the movie much earlier than we thought.

[Andrei89]

so where the **** is the trailer

[pete's montreux]

It's out and it blows.

[Rose]

so where the **** is the trailer
http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/thedarkknightrises/

I enjoyed the trailer.the football field...I dug that.

[IlliniFan]

**** Apple. I have quicktime and it's telling me that I don't.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It's out and it blows.

Cocaine is a helluva drug

[ballinhun8]

It's out and it blows.




Where the F is the white text!!!??

[pete's montreux]

I don't automatically have to love it because It's Batman, the trailer f*cking stinks.

[Lucifer]

Trailers dope :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[MK2V1GP]

I've been reading theories that the reason so much footage has been released is because Nolan plans on debuting the movie much earlier than we thought.

Please please please please

[Andrei89]

**** apple I cant watch it even though I have quicktime

**********s

[BlackWhiteGreen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqTWm4hrOnU

Can't wait.

Better quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GokKUqLcvD8

[SpecialQue]

It's out and it blows.

It is a bit underwhelming.

However, I have faith in Nolan.

[Jailblazers7]

Yeah, I didn't think the trailer was all that great either. I don't put much stock in the trailer tho so I don't doubt that it will still be a good movie.

[EnoughSaid]

Hoping Hathaway will be good as Catwoman. All she needs to do is look good in the costume.

[RedBlackAttack]

What the hell was going on with that football shit?
I was in downtown Pittsburgh at a Death Cab concert the night that they were shooting the football scene at Hines Field. The traffic was even more of a disaster than usual.

I do find it sort of interesting that The Dark Knight was filmed in Cleveland and the new Avengers movie was filmed in Cleveland. It seems Hollywood is realizing the potential that these old rebuilt steel towns offer in terms of ambiance.

[Gundress]

I better stop watching the trailer so I'd rather be more surprised.

Honestly, I wish I didn't see this trailer.

[Jailblazers7]

I was in downtown Pittsburgh at a Death Cab concert the night that they were shooting the football scene at Hines Field. The traffic was even more of a disaster than usual.

I do find it sort of interesting that The Dark Knight was filmed in Cleveland and the new Avengers movie was filmed in Cleveland. It seems Hollywood is realizing the potential that these old rebuilt steel towns offer in terms of ambiance.

There was a Wiz concert that night too so traffic was truly horrific.

[Sarcastic]

Is it just me, or is Apple's site not showing the trailer?

[RedBlackAttack]

There was a Wiz concert that night too so traffic was truly horrific.
Haha... Yep. I remember driving past the Wiz concert on my way to the Death Cab show. Death Cab was at Stage AE (which is an awesome venue, btw) and Wiz was at Station Square (Trib Total Ampitheatre or whatever they call it now).

So..

Batman movie
Death Cab
Wiz

All within a mile radius in a city with already truly awful traffic. :banghead:

[El Kabong]

While I occasionally can't understand a couple of words Bane says, I dig the hell out of that voice. When they first announced Bane I thought that he'd be some grunting, trying to sound tough type guy.

[Gundress]

Does anyone know if Nolan is still contemplating using that deleted scene from the Dark Knight in this one?I am not sure what the scene is but Nolan said he was thinking about putting it in.

[East_Stone_Ya]

[QUOTE]Audience interest in next summer

[MK2V1GP]

i sense a problem here for Nolan

Why?


While it was a bit hard to make out what he was saying, it's not like what we saw was the final product. There's still tons of editing and production to be done in the movie. I seriously doubt this film would come out where you're not able to understand one of the two main characters.

Nothing to worry about. It'll get fixed.

[East_Stone_Ya]

Why?


While it was a bit hard to make out what he was saying, it's not like what we saw was the final product. There's still tons of editing and production to be done in the movie. I seriously doubt this film would come out where you're not able to understand one of the two main characters.

Nothing to worry about. It'll get fixed.

i was thinking that maybe WB might want to interviene and demand Nolan to change things. Hopefully i am wrong :cheers:

[Myth]

Does anyone know if Nolan is still contemplating using that deleted scene from the Dark Knight in this one?I am not sure what the scene is but Nolan said he was thinking about putting it in.

The rumored Heath Ledger scene? If so, I highly doubt it. If it is another deleted scene, then I have no idea.

[bada bing]

If they start to pander to fan boys and change the movie, then its never going to end. Nolan has a purpose in everything. The studio and the executives should just stay the fck out and let Nolan deliver his master piece. If this is Nolan's first failure then so be it. The guy and his team have shown over and over and over that they know what they are doing. Fanboys and executives are going to remain greedy with their needs.

I personally dont think this movie is going to out perform or overdo The Dark Knight but its going to be a very good movie with a very good finale. As of right now, i dont see this movie being equal to TDK.

[Myth]

I'd be fine with it if it is between the level of Batman Begins and Dark Knight.

[Gundress]

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3779/ddjm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/ddjm.jpg/)

[Gundress]

I came across this website....Hans Zimmer, the dude who created that chant that's heard in the trailer, is inviting fans to be part of The Dark Knight Rises by recording their own version of the chant and submitting through the site


http://www.ujam.com/campaigns/darkknightrises/introduction

[Myth]

I came across this website....Hans Zimmer, the dude who created that chant that's heard in the trailer, is inviting fans to be part of The Dark Knight Rises by recording their own version of the chant and submitting through the site


http://www.ujam.com/campaigns/darkknightrises/introduction

I submitted to it. I wonder how they let us know if our voices get used, or if they'll let us know. Maybe just look for "Myth" in the credits of the movie.

[Myth]

http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3779/ddjm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/818/ddjm.jpg/)

OMG! Catwoman is Batman's mother!

[pete's montreux]

OMG! Catwoman is Batman's mother!

Dun dun dunnnn!

[East_Stone_Ya]

I came across this website....Hans Zimmer, the dude who created that chant that's heard in the trailer, is inviting fans to be part of The Dark Knight Rises by recording their own version of the chant and submitting through the site


http://www.ujam.com/campaigns/darkknightrises/introduction

here is one fan :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iZi83qEJ4C0#!

[Gundress]

I submitted to it. I wonder how they let us know if our voices get used, or if they'll let us know. Maybe just look for "Myth" in the credits of the movie.


It's over.

[Gundress]

here is one fan :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iZi83qEJ4C0#!


:roll:

[Lucifer]

i sense a problem here for Nolan


Dub it in post-production. Problem solved.

[Lebron23]

http://www.imdb.com/video/imdb/vi2823134745/

Better Quality

[AI Thornton]

I don't know what people are complaining about. Bane sounds good.

[Riddler]

http://i613.photobucket.com/albums/tt216/Doomsday2036/Screenshot2011-12-21at121042PM.png



What the f*ck is that?

[BMOGEFan]

Nolan really ****ed up casting hathaway as catwoman.

I would have casted Cotillard as Catwoman and casted Eva Green as Talia

[MK2V1GP]

Nolan really ****ed up casting hathaway as catwoman.

I would have casted Cotillard as Catwoman and casted Eva Green as Talia

People said the same thing about Ledger as the Joker.

[demons2005]

Nolan really ****ed up casting hathaway as catwoman.

I would have casted Cotillard as Catwoman and casted Eva Green as Talia
gawd please no i hate these french girls taking over roles that could be done by people without incredibly annoying accents

[Myth]

Nolan really ****ed up casting hathaway as catwoman.


I wasn't happy about her either, but she seemed better in the trailer than she is in 95% of her other movies.

[BMOGEFan]

I wasn't happy about her either, but she seemed better in the trailer than she is in 95% of her other movies.

Anne Hathaway is probably one of the ugliest actresses out there.

She has a really goofy smile that annoys the shit otuta me.

Catwoman is supposed to be sexy...and anne hathaway is not sexy.

[Gundress]

Nolan really ****ed up casting hathaway as catwoman.

I would have casted Cotillard as Catwoman and casted Eva Green as Talia


I agree, still not feel Anne Hathaway as Catwoman but I hope she proves me wrong when the movie come out.

[Meticode]

Anne Hathaway is probably one of the ugliest actresses out there.

She has a really goofy smile that annoys the shit otuta me.

Catwoman is supposed to be sexy...and anne hathaway is not sexy.
I find her sexy. You can't please everyone. Nice big eyes, nice pouty lips. :confusedshrug:

http://www.topnews.in/files/Anne-Hathaway_1.jpg

[ROCSteady]

Nolan really ****ed up casting hathaway as catwoman.

I would have casted Cotillard as Catwoman and casted Eva Green as Talia

She's a pretty traditional actress in the sense that she never 'plays herself'.

I do like that she commits more to roles than most actresses so that's a great sign for the role.

From the trailer, she seems to capture a haunted character pretty damn well. She seems off kilter both in her speech and physical expressions/mannerisms so that's a great sign for capturing Selina Kyle.

That shot of her looking in the mirror, tell me that isn't a haunted individual who has a lot of baggage a little kleptomania vigilantism in her...

[BMOGEFan]

http://www.eftekasat.net/pmg/pix_edadasastew/2741/Marion_Cotillard.jpg



http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10900000/Eva-Green-in-the-forest-eva-green-10908643-1280-800.jpg


you don't think this would have been a better match for Catwoman and Talia?

http://photos-2.posh24.com/p/1079048/z/hairstyles/anne_hathaway.jpg

[Joshumitsu]

We'll see. A lot of actors/actresses in Hollywood get type casted and don't have ample opportunities to show off their skills. Hatheway is alright. She might look too sweet for the role but I think they just have to shroud her hair more, keep the mask on longer, etc. It's in her eyes more than anything.

On a side note, I'm not so sure I even want a Catwoman in this film...or at least, the idea of a skinny woman dressed in tights being able to kick people's as$es. It just seems too unrealistic. Not that dressing a bat suit and scaring criminals is realistic either but even then, it's well known that Nolan's Batman has a degree of realism to it. Whatever. I'll wait and see. So long as it doesn't turn into the Halle Berry version, I think it'll be fine.

[Andrei89]

So funny when people are saying Nolan ****ed up this and Noland ****ed up that.

They said the same thing about Heath Ledger as the Joker.

Wait to see the damn movie before you judge, I am certain Nolan knows more about movies and casting characters than you

/end

[blablabla]

The girl in the red dress is that the one from gossip girl

[Sarcastic]

Bane's voice sounds fine.

[Jailblazers7]

The trailer actually made me interested in Hathaway in this movie. I think her role could actually be really good.

[Juges8932]

I saw this in the previews to MI4. It was good and really made me excited for the movie. I wasn't angry or :wtf: about Hathaway being cast because I like her and I think she's a good actress. Yeah, she is trying something that is a bit different from her usual characters, but that doesn't mean she won't do a great job with it. I guess people have just put her into this specific idea of what roles she should be in and Catwoman is different from that. However, the trailer definitely reinforced my initial notion that she will be great in it. From the brief scenes I saw, she played the sexy and seductive very well.

Only thing I'm not wild about is Bane's jacket. Makes him look more like a henchmen than anything, IMO. That won't really bother me though. So I am definitely stoked and ready to see this movie!! Can't wait!

:D

[Myth]

Trailer broke a download record: http://batman-news.com/2011/12/23/the-dark-knight-rises-trailer-breaks-itunes-record-with-over-12-5-million-downloads-in-24-hours/

[Sarcastic]

6 minute prologue (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyTUf3RoP_s&feature=related)

[Sarcastic]

Ra's Al Ghul is confirmed to be in it.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=57070

[Myth]

Ra's Al Ghul is confirmed to be in it.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=57070

The news everybody already knew.

[Riddler]

Anybody heard the rumor that Joseph Gordon-Levitt is really Robin?

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/09/joseph-gordon-levitt-wont-talk-about-robin

[Myth]

Anybody heard the rumor that Joseph Gordon-Levitt is really Robin?

http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2011/09/joseph-gordon-levitt-wont-talk-about-robin

Nah, he is going to be Batgirl.

[Lebron23]

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1682974/dark-knight-rises-bane.jhtml

[ROCSteady]

http://i.imgur.com/jrAXQ.jpg

Catwoman looks way more interesting in this pic