View Full Version : Celtics Jeff Green out for the season?
DStebb716
12-16-2011, 08:50 PM
Surprised nobody posted this gem.
I have no expectation that he'll play this year. None. Hope I'm wrong. Don't think I am. @flatlander_1 News on Jeff Green?
https://twitter.com/#!/SeanGrandePBP/status/147818467112914945
O_City_Thunder
12-16-2011, 08:53 PM
WTF happened?
Real Men Wear Green
12-16-2011, 08:54 PM
All we know is that something's wrong. It came up on his physical and the team won't tell the public what it is. Celts may be in for a rough season, he was going to be the bench scoring plus give Pierce some rest with all the b2b.
DStebb716
12-16-2011, 08:54 PM
WTF happened?
Not sure. He's meeting with new doctors to see what's up.
Injured for the rest of this year, as in the year of 2011?
DStebb716
12-16-2011, 08:55 PM
This would be a HUGE loss. They do have fifteen point 3 PFs but he was the best among the backups.
KDthunderup
12-16-2011, 08:57 PM
We owned that trade
O_City_Thunder
12-16-2011, 08:58 PM
Not sure. He's meeting with new doctors to see what's up.
That's unfortunate. Kinda weird they won't tell the public what it is. I hope he's okay...
OKCThunderUP
12-16-2011, 08:59 PM
He didn't pass the stress test during his physical. It's a heart issue. Hopefully he's OK.
Real Men Wear Green
12-16-2011, 08:59 PM
We owned that trade
With this injury it would seal the deal but Ainge couldn't have predicted this.
Crown&Coke
12-16-2011, 09:03 PM
He didn't pass the stress test during his physical. It's a heart issue. Hopefully he's OK.
heart issue? damn that sucks.
I was thinking they did a "sound" test but that didn't sound right.
Stress test might be it, I think Chuck Hayes underwent the same test and he has a heart issue as well.
hope both are well
DStebb716
12-16-2011, 09:07 PM
Injured for the rest of this year, as in the year of 2011?
Year means the season.
outbreak
12-16-2011, 09:20 PM
WHere'd you hear heart issue? All i could find was rivers, green and ainge all saying they didn't know what it was. Sounded real sus and like they didn't want to openly say what it was. Hope he's ok
This sucks. You just hope he comes back next year. Is he basically not signed then? Cause he failed the physical?
This is one of the reason Bill Simmons is a dick, he constantly makes fun and implies poor Knick fans will be crushed when our players get season ending injuries, he thinks it's real funny to say. Well it's not really that ****ing funny. Asshole...
Kevin_Garnett_5
12-16-2011, 09:51 PM
Huge loss. I was hoping for a comeback season for him. I knew something was up when Doc & Danny were hesitant to reveal anything to reporters.
Theoo's Daddy
12-16-2011, 09:53 PM
OKC robbed the celtics. it sounds like he has a serious illness.
OKCThunderUP
12-16-2011, 11:31 PM
OKC robbed the celtics. it sounds like he has a serious illness.
Maybe so but they didn't do it intentionally. If Jeff Green hadn't passed the initial physical after the trade it would have been canceled. It's just bad luck.
Theoo's Daddy
12-16-2011, 11:33 PM
Maybe so but they didn't do it intentionally. If Jeff Green hadn't passed the initial physical after the trade it would have been canceled. It's just bad luck.
:oldlol: I think OKC knew about dude's health problems and got rid of him before shit became serious. Celtics were very high on him.
wow. major blow to boston
OKCThunderUP
12-16-2011, 11:34 PM
:oldlol: I think OKC knew about dude's health problems and got rid of him before shit became serious. Celtics were very high on him.
No, OKC genuinely had no use for a guy who is not built for a specific position nor excels at a specific position. Jeff Green was dead weight for the Thunder.
He didn't pass the stress test during his physical. It's a heart issue. Hopefully he's OK.
It could very well be the same issue that LaMarcus Aldridge has with the heart being overworked under pressure and the Celtics want to closely monitor the situation.
Knowing their history with SF's, they have a right to be extra vigilant.
However, Jeff Green spent the entire offseason playing basketball across the country so it couldn't be something serious.
Meticode
12-16-2011, 11:48 PM
And the Celtics championship window closes that much more. It's unfortunate. Everyone knows it's pretty much closed already with them trying to trade Rondo looking forward to the future.
No, OKC genuinely had no use for a guy who is not built for a specific position nor excels at a specific position. Jeff Green was dead weight for the Thunder.
Jeff Green is a SF playing out of position at PF.
You've got a lot of nerve talking trash about a guy in a thread dedicated to him possibly missing significant time due to physical red flag.
And the Celtics championship window closes that much more. It's unfortunate. Everyone knows it's pretty much closed already with them trying to trade Rondo looking forward to the future.
Why would they trade Rondo?
Hes signed to a very good contract for another 3 years and is only 25.
can someone post a more reliable link?
Meticode
12-16-2011, 11:57 PM
Why would they trade Rondo?
Hes signed to a very good contract for another 3 years and is only 25.
Rondo has been in trade talks sense the free agency period. I believe they were trying to package Rondo for Paul in the beginning. I do know they were shopping him. I wouldn't know the reason why unfortunately.
can someone post a more reliable link?
Only "reports" of it being a heart issue come from Twitter.
Nobody has confirmed anything and Green is seeking a 2nd opinion.
I even went on Twitter and saw some people speculating he has HIV.:wtf:
Meticode
12-16-2011, 11:59 PM
can someone post a more reliable link?
Best I could find...
http://celticshub.com/2011/12/15/injury-report-cs-non-committal-on-jeff-green-more-on-pierce-and-rondo/
Rondo has been in trade talks sense the free agency period. I believe they were trying to package Rondo for Paul in the beginning. I do know they were shopping him. I wouldn't know the reason why unfortunately.
They were trying to move him for Chris Paul, but now that CP3 is off the market it would make no sense to move him anywhere.
Rondo's "attitude" and past issues with Doc Rivers are the only reasons I could see him being moved for a downgrade at his position.
DStebb716
12-17-2011, 12:24 AM
I still think Rondo and a first for Russell Westbrook makes so much sense for both sides.
OKCThunderUP
12-17-2011, 12:49 AM
Jeff Green is a SF playing out of position at PF.
You've got a lot of nerve talking trash about a guy in a thread dedicated to him possibly missing significant time due to physical red flag.
I'm not talking trash about him, I'm listing legitimate criticisms of his game. You've apparently not watched him play much.
O_City_Thunder
12-17-2011, 12:50 AM
I still think Rondo and a first for Russell Westbrook makes so much sense for both sides.
Ehhh.....I don't know about that. I rather take my chances with Westbrook. That's not a knock on Rondo, but I think Westbrook is a better all around player.
stephanieg
12-17-2011, 12:53 AM
Is not having Jeff Green play really worse than having Jeff Green play?
I'm not talking trash about him, I'm listing legitimate criticisms of his game. You've apparently not watched him play much.
I've watched him play since Georgetown.
Green is a good player. He sacrificed a lot to accomodate Durant playing SF.
Just because he got embarrassed by Gasol doensn't mean he is a bad player, its just that he shouldn't be playing PF for any team. Point Blank.
Crown&Coke
12-17-2011, 01:13 AM
Ehhh.....I don't know about that. I rather take my chances with Westbrook. That's not a knock on Rondo, but I think Westbrook is a better all around player.
and Westbrook is a scorer. OKC needs that second scorer, Rondo don't fit that.
HylianNightmare
12-17-2011, 01:17 AM
that blows
Kevin_Garnett_5
12-17-2011, 01:26 AM
http://www.csnne.com/pages/video?PID=g_G7EUNnUilUh4Cka3_DsbRvLAQclzMp
Doc's expression as he's talking about it scares me. I hope it's nothing too serious.
It looks like we'll know what's going on for sure tomorrow.
ClutchOver9000
12-17-2011, 01:30 AM
hope he's alright
All Net
12-17-2011, 02:21 AM
:eek: ouch...not good.
kenny817
12-17-2011, 02:23 AM
We owned that trade
Like Dirk owned yall?
Too soon? Naaaa
Dizzle-2k7
12-17-2011, 02:49 AM
****.
I love Jeff Green's game. There was even talks of him taking over Paul Pierce at SF this year.
Hope he comes back. :(
jbryan1984
12-17-2011, 02:49 AM
Looks like the end of an era for the Celtics. Last year they looked so stacked and this year the roster looks so weak. I believe it may be KG's last year and he is one of my all time favorites. I'll root for them in the playoffs but I'm not even sure they will make it out of the first round.
Ouch, that really hurts the Celtics. I wouldn't rank them any higher than 4 in the East now.
senelcoolidge
12-17-2011, 05:52 AM
lakers and celtics are pretty much done. the celtics now and the lakers in the very near future. I hope Green is fine.
BlackWhiteGreen
12-17-2011, 06:16 AM
Indication is that if we lose Green, we're going to sign Posey.
https://twitter.com/#!/SherrodbCSN/status/147876802826743808
Dizzle-2k7
12-17-2011, 06:19 AM
how could this be so serious? dude was looking GREAT in the summer league games. :(
Clutch
12-17-2011, 06:19 AM
http://www.csnne.com/pages/video?PID=g_G7EUNnUilUh4Cka3_DsbRvLAQclzMp
Doc's expression as he's talking about it scares me. I hope it's nothing too serious.
It looks like we'll know what's going on for sure tomorrow.
I hope he will be fine.
Even if he misses the whole season because of that I hope his life isn't in danger.It sounded pretty serious.
blacknapalm
12-17-2011, 06:23 AM
I hope he will be fine.
Even if he misses all season because of that I hope his life isn't in danger.It sounded pretty serious.
ya, it's one thing to cut his career short but it's another if it's your life. it reminds me of cuttino mobley who had hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, the same thing that led to reggie lewis' death. if that's the case, the good news is that it's been diagnosed and can be treated.
ya, it's one thing to cut his career short but it's another if it's your life. it reminds me of cuttino mobley who had hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, the same thing that led to reggie lewis' death. if that's the case, the good news is that it's been diagnosed and can be treated.
Cuttino Mobley was diagnosed with Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy in 1999, he signed a non-liability waiver to play with each team during his career risking his own health. Knicks made him retire for his own sake, but that wasn't good enough and now hes suing because he cant play basketball anywhere.
Since 2005 following Jason Collier's death, NBA players have been given all sorts of heart tests including an echocardiogram to check for an enlarged heart(caused by hypertrophic cardiomyopathy). Considering Green came into the league in 07', I highly doubt Jeff Green would have that condition. Celtics wouldn't have let him sign a waiver to play knowing their history.
I think some rest will help, because hes been balling during the entire lockout playing in every single tournament and pick-up game.
Lebron23
12-17-2011, 07:34 AM
I hope he's alright.
blacknapalm
12-17-2011, 07:45 AM
Cuttino Mobley was diagnosed with Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy in 1999, he signed a non-liability waiver to play with each team during his career risking his own health. Knicks made him retire for his own sake, but that wasn't good enough and now hes suing because he cant play basketball anywhere.
Since 2005 following Jason Collier's death, NBA players have been given all sorts of heart tests including an echocardiogram to check for an enlarged heart(caused by hypertrophic cardiomyopathy). Considering Green came into the league in 07', I highly doubt Jeff Green would have that condition. Celtics wouldn't have let him sign a waiver to play knowing their history.
I think some rest will help, because hes been balling during the entire lockout playing in every single tournament and pick-up game.
oh ok, i didn't realize mobley was diagnosed so long ago. he was just one of the guys that sprang to my mind. well, we'll know soon enough about green
Nick Young
12-17-2011, 08:17 AM
With this injury it would seal the deal but Ainge couldn't have predicted this.
Ainge just making another moronic move, Nate Robinson being the other one:lol
why would you gut your contending team middle of the season for Nenad Krstic to become your starting center and Jeff Green:facepalm Moronic GM, ray allen and paul pierce were the only good moves he ever made
El Jomol
12-17-2011, 12:25 PM
Not official, but:
Marquis Daniels
12-17-2011, 12:28 PM
Per Woj.
After an aortic aneurysm was discovered, forward Jeff Green will have surgery and miss the 2011-'12 season, Celtics say.
DDensity
12-17-2011, 12:29 PM
Per Woj.
After an aortic aneurysm was discovered, forward Jeff Green will have surgery and miss the 2011-'12 season, Celtics say.
I came here to post this as well. For those who don't know, this is extremely dangerous and life threatening. The risk is the aneurysm bursts before they can operate, which would almost certainly cause death. This explains why the Celtics were so tight lipped about the situation.
brownmamba00
12-17-2011, 12:31 PM
Per Woj.
After an aortic aneurysm was discovered, forward Jeff Green will have surgery and miss the 2011-'12 season, Celtics say.
Ouch
Marquis Daniels
12-17-2011, 12:31 PM
I came here to post this as well. For those who don't know, this is extremely dangerous and life threatening. The risk is the aneurysm bursts before they can operate, which would almost certain cause death. This explains why the Celtics were so tight lipped about the situation.
Damn :eek: :eek: :( :( :(
On behalf of Celtics fans, I wish him well and a speedy recovery.
knickscity
12-17-2011, 12:34 PM
Hope he makes it out of this with good health to follow.
Jeff godspeed and hope you make a full recovery.
Marquis Daniels
12-17-2011, 12:36 PM
Celtics doctors say that Jeff Green can resume his career next season, according to a team statement.
Doranku
12-17-2011, 01:07 PM
Yup, it's on ESPN now.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/7362378/jeff-green-boston-celtics-heart-surgery-season
Very sad to see. At least there's some silver lining in that if everything goes well, he'll be able to continue his career.
JohnnySic
12-17-2011, 01:10 PM
Whoa. Best of luck in his recovery.
Prayers to the young man from the DMV.
shootingcomets
12-17-2011, 01:49 PM
does this void his contract? or does it mean he's paid 9mil this year to rehab?
Haymaker
12-17-2011, 02:17 PM
does this void his contract? or does it mean he's paid 9mil this year to rehab?
Jeff Green will have surgery to repair his aorta and will miss the season. The 25-year-old is expected to make a full recovery. The medical issue arose when Green was taking a physical last week. He said the problem was found when he took a stress test. Since then, he has seen a number of specialists, the last of which was in Cleveland at the Cleveland Clinic yesterday. Because Green could not pass the physical, the free agent contract he signed with the Celtics will be voided.
They should go after James Posey and Keith Bogans.
Primary
12-17-2011, 02:18 PM
Damn what a bummer. I was looking forward to his mental improvement being surrounded by such experienced and smart players.
DStebb716
12-17-2011, 02:19 PM
Because he's being forced out for a year and doesn't have a contract this year, he will still be a RESTRICTED free agent for Boston next offseason.
MK2V1GP
12-17-2011, 03:32 PM
This is brutal. Firstly for Green. I pray that he makes a full recovery and is able to continue his career.
And secondly for the Celtics. It's like they traded away Perkins and Robinson for absolutely nothing. I was looking forward to Green having a huge season since he has young legs compared to Pierce and KG. I envisioned him putting up about 15 or 16 ppg this year and being a major key to the Celtics' success this year. Now, Boston is totally screwed. Even though KG's by far my favorite player ever, he's done and it's foolish to depend on him offensively aside from wide-open jumpers. Pierce's offensive game is greatly diminished, too. Unless Boston runs play after play after play to get Ray Allen open on 3's, Boston will struggle mightily on offense this year, again.
CeltsGarlic
12-17-2011, 03:38 PM
God dammit, boston now def. need SF on the bench.
brownmamba00
12-17-2011, 03:41 PM
Hey Boston you got a PG? We got an SF:banana:
pete's montreux
12-17-2011, 03:41 PM
This is brutal. Firstly for Green. I pray that he makes a full recovery and is able to continue his career.
And secondly for the Celtics. It's like they traded away Perkins and Robinson for absolutely nothing. I was looking forward to Green having a huge season since he has young legs compared to Pierce and KG. I envisioned him putting up about 15 or 16 ppg this year and being a major key to the Celtics' success this year. Now, Boston is totally screwed. Even though KG's by far my favorite player ever, he's done and it's foolish to depend on him offensively aside from wide-open jumpers. Pierce's offensive game is greatly diminished, too. Unless Boston runs play after play after play to get Ray Allen open on 3's, Boston will struggle mightily on offense this year, again.
No it hasn't, not even in the least. He has the exact same game he had when he was a top 10 scorer. His game has never relied on athleticism. It's always about power and getting to the line. He still operates from the mid-range. He had his more dunks last season than any other since 2006. He's the exact same player.
BlackWhiteGreen
12-17-2011, 03:49 PM
We need Posey, or someone similar. Doubt there's anyone else on the market who can help.
ballup
12-17-2011, 04:01 PM
Really basketball gods? The Celtics are struggling for bodies already. You guys don't have to make it worse you know.
MK2V1GP
12-17-2011, 04:21 PM
No it hasn't, not even in the least. He has the exact same game he had when he was a top 10 scorer. His game has never relied on athleticism. It's always about power and getting to the line. He still operates from the mid-range. He had his more dunks last season than any other since 2006. He's the exact same player.
No way is he the same player from a few years ago. I HOPE/WISH he would be, but there were many times last year where he looked like he had lost a step or two. Not step as in fast, but just overall. He is not the same player from 3 or 4 years ago.
If he has the same exact game as he had when he was a top 10 scorer, why doesn't he score that much anymore? It can't be because he has to share the ball, b/c we were one of the worst offenses overall last year. You'd think if our offense sucked as much as it did, Pierce would've taken over, but he rarely did.
RoseCity07
12-17-2011, 04:24 PM
This is terrible news. I hope the surgery goes well. I'm sure it will.
pete's montreux
12-17-2011, 04:53 PM
No way is he the same player from a few years ago. I HOPE/WISH he would be, but there were many times last year where he looked like he had lost a step or two. Not step as in fast, but just overall. He is not the same player from 3 or 4 years ago.
If he has the same exact game as he had when he was a top 10 scorer, why doesn't he score that much anymore? It can't be because he has to share the ball, b/c we were one of the worst offenses overall last year. You'd think if our offense sucked as much as it did, Pierce would've taken over, but he rarely did.
It's absolutely because he has to share the ball. He never averaged 20 shots a game because 10-15 of them would have been called for fouls in his prime. He easily averaged 30 offensive touches before 2008.
He plays more defense and is much more inclined the run the offense than to go one on one. He's very passive trying to get people involved.
He's taking less shots shooting career high percentages because he's taking it to the rack more often, evident by the amount of dunks he had, and he's as patient as he's ever been.
I see Pierce now and I can't tell the difference between now and 2007. None. It doesn't matter how fast or slow he is, his game is exactly the same as it always has been. He never relied on athleticism, he was making the same plays and moves he pulled last year, 8 years ago. I've seen enough of Pierce to know. His averages barely changing in 3 years proves it. Don't mistake an attitude change for a dip in performance.
Derka
12-17-2011, 04:59 PM
The basketball gods are not showing my C's any love at all this year.
Jeff's way too young to be dealing with heart problems. Even if he never wears a Celtics uniform again, I'm hoping for nothing but a complete recovery for the guy. He was ready and amped to provide some quality minutes for this team this season and something completely out of his control prevents him from that. Such a shame, but when it comes to your ticker...you just can't f**k around with that stuff.
As for the C's...I'm hoping against hope Danny can pull a rabbit out of his ass but I'm not gonna sit here and say everything's fine. Its not. This is going to be a bumpy season for us C's fans.
PP34Deuce
12-17-2011, 05:13 PM
Pray for Jeff Green, Im 25 and it scares me to think a highly conditioned NBA athlete is having heart problems.... Everyone seems to think he will be fine for next year where he will be only 26 years old.
As far as Pierce, Look at 2006 highlights and 2011...Guy plays the same way, PP is a half step slower but he still gets people off balance and will be able to give ANY team 18ppg in his sleep.
Him resting leads me to believe that DOC has him operating more offensively this short season.
BallsOut
12-17-2011, 05:13 PM
The basketball gods are not showing my C's any love at all this year.
Jeff's way too young to be dealing with heart problems. Even if he never wears a Celtics uniform again, I'm hoping for nothing but a complete recovery for the guy. He was ready and amped to provide some quality minutes for this team this season and something completely out of his control prevents him from that. Such a shame, but when it comes to your ticker...you just can't f**k around with that stuff.
As for the C's...I'm hoping against hope Danny can pull a rabbit out of his ass but I'm not gonna sit here and say everything's fine. Its not. This is going to be a bumpy season for us C's fans.
I feel for you guys. I still don't understand how they lost to Miami last season after beating them convincingly in 3/4 regular season match ups. I never liked the Green pickup. He was always going to be a good player, but not an all star to me. The Celtics need to make a big move or obtain a time machine. I remember it was only a season or two ago when everyone and their mamas was scared of them.
PG: Rondo/Dooling
SG: Allen/Pavlovic
SF: Pierce/Daniels
PF: KG/Bass
C: Wilcox/Oneal
To be honest, that roster doesn't scare me at all, and I really don't know what move they could make to get better at this point.
CeltsGarlic
12-17-2011, 05:17 PM
Worst roster since 2008 for boston...
AMISTILLILL
12-17-2011, 05:51 PM
Terrible news. Hope Green is able to recover fully. The front office is keen on the kid and he'll have a spot on the team when he gets back, rest assured.
Disappointing start for Boston.
BlackWhiteGreen
12-17-2011, 05:57 PM
I feel for you guys. I still don't understand how they lost to Miami last season after beating them convincingly in 3/4 regular season match ups. I never liked the Green pickup. He was always going to be a good player, but not an all star to me. The Celtics need to make a big move or obtain a time machine. I remember it was only a season or two ago when everyone and their mamas was scared of them.
PG: Rondo/Dooling
SG: Allen/Pavlovic
SF: Pierce/Daniels
PF: KG/Bass
C: Wilcox/Oneal
To be honest, that roster doesn't scare me at all, and I really don't know what move they could make to get better at this point.
Saw some promising things from E'Twaun Moore last night and heard some good things from camp, maybe he'll beat out Pavlovic for some minutes.
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