The Miami Heat are on a serious decline.

[nathanjizzle]

ofcourse miami fans will be delusional about the fact. How are they supposedly going to get better, when there all declining in stats. Also is that it for the heat team? LOL at them winning a championship, with 2 superstars and the rest scrubs.

Dwyane Wade
pts assist reb
08-09 30.2 7.5 5
09-10 26.6 6.5 4.8
10-11 25.5 4.6 6.4

Lebron James
07-08 30 7.2 7.9
08-09 28.4 7.2 7.6
09-10 29.7 8.6 7.3
10-11 26.7 7.0 7.5

Chris Bosh
08-09 22.7 2.5 10
09-10 24 2.4 10.8
10-11 18.7 1.9 8.3

Mario Chalmers
08-09 10 4.9
09-10 7.1 3.4
10-11 6.4 2.4

Udonis Haslem
07-08 12 1.4 9
08-09 10.6 1.1 8.2
09-10 9.9 .7 8.1
10-11 8 .5 8.2

Mike Miller
07-08 16.4 3.4 6.7
08-09 9.9 4.5 6.6
09-10 10.9 3.9 6.2
10-11 5.6 1.2 4.5

Shane Battier
07-08 9.3 2.3 5.1
08-09 7.3 2.4 4.8
09-10 8.0 2.6 4.7
10-11 7.6 2.3 4.5

[SpecialQue]

Yeah, they're clearly gonna be lucky to grab the 8 seed. :rolleyes:

[DuMa]

:facepalm for using stats as end all argument

[Haymaker]

You stared watching basketball yesterday?

[AAckley1]

I'm not even a Heat fan, but these are some of the most skewed statistics I've ever seen. First, by only presenting 3 years of data for certain players, yet 4 years worth of data for others, it simulates a larger drop off to support your argument. Then, its lacking many other important statistics true basketball fans want to see like Shooting %, Usage Rate, True Shooting %, etc. By simply presenting Points, Rebounds, and Assists, you are not accounting for the fact that, until last season, LeBron, DWade, and Bosh were the focal point of their own individual teams and are now attempting to assimilate into a different role.

[Funnyfuka]

They re easily going to win the chip this year -if no injuries- tho.

[pmj]

I'd be happier if all the Big 3 were around 20 PPG, like Boston's Big 3 were. That would mean some of the rest of the team is stepping up. Your numbers SHOULD go down on a team with 3 all-stars versus being the man.

[Vienceslav]

Oh god.
This is even worse than the guys using PER to prove Lebron is best player ever.
I don

[Soundwave]

Yup Miami should just wrap it up and not even bother showing up this year.

Let younger, hungrier squads like the Celtics and Lakers take it. ;)

[TylerOO]

Yawn.

[drizzy0503]

Don't Feed The Troll!!

[Indian guy]

LeBron is.

Heat will be fine though.

[ThatsGame]

This is one of the dumbest threads I've seen.

[MichaelCheazley]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw6d3tItM61qemz6qo1_500.gif

[nathanjizzle]

:facepalm for using stats as end all argument

yes because at the end of my post i said "end of discussion"

[nathanjizzle]

I'm not even a Heat fan, but these are some of the most skewed statistics I've ever seen. First, by only presenting 3 years of data for certain players, yet 4 years worth of data for others, it simulates a larger drop off to support your argument. Then, its lacking many other important statistics true basketball fans want to see like Shooting %, Usage Rate, True Shooting %, etc. By simply presenting Points, Rebounds, and Assists, you are not accounting for the fact that, until last season, LeBron, DWade, and Bosh were the focal point of their own individual teams and are now attempting to assimilate into a different role.

how are they skewed? every player has a peak and start declining in stats...some of the players have decline 4+ years. Really doesnt matter what year i began with, you can still conclude they are declining. And yes the old "they have to share the ball with one another" that doesnt explain the 2 years before they assembled that shows they were declining.

[nathanjizzle]

This is one of the dumbest threads I've seen.

Nathanjizzle:
"ofcourse miami fans will be delusional about the fact"

[ThatsGame]

First of all. How could the Miami Heat "decline". They have only been together ONE SEASON. LOLDUMASS

Second of all. When you put 3 superstars (or 2.5) on the same team, of course there will be lower numbers for each individual..

[nathanjizzle]

also the sarcasm in the responses to this thread are the lamest i have read on ish in a while

[nathanjizzle]

First of all. How could the Miami Heat "decline". They have only been together ONE SEASON. LOLDUMASS

Second of all. When you put 3 superstars (or 2.5) on the same team, of course there will be lower numbers for each individual..

because individually they were declining already? dumbass? or wait by your standard of belief that if you put a team of players that are declining there most likely going to get better.

Oh god that epic excuse by heat fans again. That excuse is valid for 1 season. theres 3-4 seasons of stats.

[OKCThunderUP]

This is the dumbest thread I've seen yet today.

[swi7ch]

If you have the big 3 on your roster, of course everyone's stats are going to go down! :facepalm

[nathanjizzle]

If you have the big 3 on your roster, of course everyone's stats are going to go down! :facepalm

this excuse is really getting old. ive already acknowledged it 4 times in this thread already.

[DStebb716]

I wish my team was that good while they were on the decline.

[swi7ch]

this excuse is really getting old. ive already acknowledged it 4 times in this thread already.
quick ex

in cleveland, LBJ was getting 20+ attempts cos he was "the man". with miami, he can't get as many attempts because he has to share with wade, bosh, etc so OBVIOUSLY his numbers are going to go down (fewer touches). same with wade and bosh and the other guys

i know you're trolling and thank me for feeding you. at least i increased my post count and got near 1K posts! :bowdown:

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Its funny how the Lebronphilles worshiped at the altar of win shares of PER the last five years yet fail to recognize the historical drastic decline in his game per those same statistics last year.

[All Net]

:facepalm :facepalm What an idiotic thread

[derb2k2]

i hate to keep adding to this useless thread, but this shouldn't be online for more than 30 minutes

[Lebron23]

This is the worst thread ever. Rose won't even average over 20 ppg if he plays with Bosh, Wade or LeBron. Wade and LeBron actually finished in top 5 in scoring at the end of the 2010-2011 NBA Season. Miami are gonna sweep the Bulls in the playoffs.

[Bigsmoke]

Drunk too many 40 ounces tonight?

[stephanieg]

The OP has discovered diminishing returns. Or he thinks three 30 point scorers should combine for 90 every game. Not sure...

[ILLsmak]

This is the worst thread ever. Rose won't even average over 20 ppg if he plays with Bosh, Wade or LeBron. Wade and LeBron actually finished in top 5 in scoring at the end of the 2010-2011 NBA Season. Miami are gonna sweep the Bulls in the playoffs.

Yeah he would. lol.

But yeah this is a fail thread. So illogical.

-Smak

[ConanRulesNBC]

OP can't be serious. I mean you do know that all of them now play on the same team and share the ball now. Of course it was different when each of them were the main guy on their own teams.

[D-Wade316]

ofcourse miami fans will be delusional about the fact.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[D-Wade316]

This is the worst thread ever. Rose won't even average over 20 ppg if he plays with Bosh, Wade or LeBron. Wade and LeBron actually finished in top 5 in scoring at the end of the 2010-2011 NBA Season. Miami are gonna sweep the Bulls in the playoffs.
Yep.

Rose with Wade, Lebron, or Bosh = 15ppg, 4rpg, 5apg :rockon:

[MMKM]

Ok obviously there are diminishing returns as mentioned whenever you combine three 30 point scorers onto one team. But at the same time, you can't totally discredit the OP for using statistics to make a prediction. Every potential Heat starter besides possibly Norris Cole has statistically dropped off over the last three years. The big three have been together for one year. There is in fact a downward trend in stats for every significant player on the Heat's roster. Not saying I agree that it is predictive for this season, or that the trend will continue in the same direction, but at the very least it is interesting and doesn't deserve a bunch of :facepalm responses.

[iggy>]

This thread can be summed up with this... :facepalm

[nathanjizzle]

didnt know there was so many idiots with the same excuse for miami...ive already showed you more then 3-4 seasons of stats declining for each player especially lebron. miami has only been together for 1 season....simple concept to understand yet the same sorry excuse "they have to share the ball".

Bunch of donkeys...and its sorry to see that "bulls fan" conan make an excuse for the heat thats not even valid against the stats i gave you guys.

[D-Wade316]

didnt know there was so many idiots with the same excuse for miami...ive already showed you more then 3-4 seasons of stats declining for each player especially lebron. miami has only been together for 1 season....simple concept to understand yet the same sorry excuse "they have to share the ball".

Bunch of donkeys...and its sorry to see that "bulls fan" conan make an excuse for the heat thats not even valid against the stats i gave you guys.
There's no excuse for 10% in the 4th quarter. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdgNH1a1sCg)

[Yung D-Will]

http://myspace.roflposters.com/images/rofl/myspace/1229421116613.jpg.%5Broflposters.com%5D.myspace.jp g

[NumberSix]

LeBron is.

Heat will be fine though.
Shut up. You'd trade Derrick Rose, Tom Thibodeau, half the bench and the UC for him in a heartbeat.

[Hank]

There's no excuse for 10% in the 4th quarter. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdgNH1a1sCg)

lol at Jo Kim Noah's pouty little shitface on the bench after the buzzer.

[D-Wade316]

lol at Jo Kim Noah's pouty little shitface on the bench after the buzzer.
I bet he turned his television off when Rose was getting raped by Lebron. I feel bad for the guy actually. Embarrassed in national television. :pimp: :banana:

[Optimus Prime]

Uhhhhh...

Not sure if OP is serious or just major trolling. I mean, DWade is nearing the end of his prime, so he would be the only one "Declining", and if he does, it would be ever so slightly from year to year.

[Salazaar]

Sure mate, two years ago they had the 8th seed and were knocked out of the playoffs in the first round and last year there were 2nd and went to the Finals... That's some SERIOUS decline... Get a life man.

[nathanjizzle]

wtf

[airchibundo507]

:facepalm at the OP

[greymatter]

All that can be said is that the thread author's father did the world a disservice by not pulling out. A pearl necklace is what you should have remained.

[Human Error]

ofcourse miami fans will be delusional about the fact. How are they supposedly going to get better, when there all declining in stats. Also is that it for the heat team? LOL at them winning a championship, with 2 superstars and the rest scrubs.

:facepalm

[305Baller]

OP is no Optimus Prime.

[Lebron23]

ofcourse miami fans will be delusional about the fact. How are they supposedly going to get better, when there all declining in stats. Also is that it for the heat team? LOL at them winning a championship, with 2 superstars and the rest scrubs.

Dwyane Wade
pts assist reb
08-09 30.2 7.5 5
09-10 26.6 6.5 4.8
10-11 25.5 4.6 6.4

Lebron James
07-08 30 7.2 7.9
08-09 28.4 7.2 7.6
09-10 29.7 8.6 7.3
10-11 26.7 7.0 7.5

Chris Bosh
08-09 22.7 2.5 10
09-10 24 2.4 10.8
10-11 18.7 1.9 8.3

Mario Chalmers
08-09 10 4.9
09-10 7.1 3.4
10-11 6.4 2.4

Udonis Haslem
07-08 12 1.4 9
08-09 10.6 1.1 8.2
09-10 9.9 .7 8.1
10-11 8 .5 8.2

Mike Miller
07-08 16.4 3.4 6.7
08-09 9.9 4.5 6.6
09-10 10.9 3.9 6.2
10-11 5.6 1.2 4.5

Shane Battier
07-08 9.3 2.3 5.1
08-09 7.3 2.4 4.8
09-10 8.0 2.6 4.7
10-11 7.6 2.3 4.5

http://chanarchive.org/content/22_k/9183102/1309550898915.jpg

[305Baller]

OP is no Ocean Pacific.

[bwink23]

yes because at the end of my post i said "end of discussion"


:hammerhead: .....heaven forbid when 3 superstars get together, their individual stats will fall...who would have thunk it??? :confusedshrug:

[Tmuston Beltics]

OP is no original prangster

[zizozain]

They re easily going to win the chip this year -if no injuries- tho.
there will be ... at least one

a serious one

[nathanjizzle]

OP is a boss

[nathanjizzle]

OP is a triple OG.:banana:

[nathanjizzle]

LOL at them winning a championship, with 2 superstars and the rest scrubs.

so true:applause:

[nathanjizzle]

yo OP you got that fiya.

[Bobcat4Ever]

yo OP you got that fiya.

fiya head?