Bold Prediction: Blake Griffin's stats last season is his career best

[Kiddlovesnets]

Sometimes it is not a good thing for a rookie to avertage 22/12 since he will be having a hard time later in his life to surpass his first year in NBA. I'd say Blake will not average more points and rebounds than he did last season, at least rebounding-wise. Do not see him grabbing 25/15/5 ever in his career, and this year he may as well average 18/10/2 or lower if injured midway in the season.

[32Dayz]

Assuming he gets injured is silly.

However its impossible to say how he will progress.
He seems like the hard working type so I can only imagine his game will improve at time go's on.

Perhaps this wont translate into wayyy better stats but it may translate into Blake becoming a better defender and making smarter decisions on both ends of the court which will lead to more W's and a better team.

[lebob23]

fvcking idiot, he might get injured :roll:

[28renyoy]

His raw stats, PPG/RPG/APG, will all decline. You can BOOK that. His advanced stats will go up however due to being more efficient with CP3.

[Kiddlovesnets]

fvcking idiot, he might get injured :roll:

Well I am not saying he will get injured, just brought up a possible reason for him to play a worse season than last year. But still, I'd like to bet that his stats will decline even if hes able to play all 82 games and healthy.

[mentallooser]

Improving greatly on defense will make him a true powerhouse even with the stats he has. His points are powerful and impactful, so with a very solid defense he can dominate a game without averaging 28ppg.

[Trentknicks]

In before Clippersfan86 has a fit at this statement.

[The_Yearning]

Pretty much. He will never see more than 12 rebounds a game, too much jumping.

His rebounds will dip to probable 10.5-11 area and score around the same area. He's an Amare type player... just shorter.

[Fatal9]

It's funny because you know this is only really based on the pre-season game last night.

[senelcoolidge]

The Clippers have so many offensive weapons that I could see his ppg drop a little. His rebounding should be about the same even though he plays with another good rebounder. He'll be fine. He will have much better seasons than his rookie year. It's a team game, I don't think Blake is thinking about his numbers.

[Clippersfan86]

It's funny because you know this is only really based on the pre-season game last night.

One game where he took 11 shots and played against a team he always struggles with :oldlol: . I'm not even bothering responding to the trolls because by January when he's averaging 24-25 ppg... it's gonna be funny watching Joyner and these guys disappear.

[MooseJuiceBowen]

Improving greatly on defense will make him a true powerhouse even with the stats he has. His points are powerful and impactful, so with a very solid defense he can dominate a game without averaging 28ppg.

that defense sure did look great last night. not...

on defense blake just watches lol

[MooseJuiceBowen]

One game where he took 11 shots and played against a team he always struggles with :oldlol: . I'm not even bothering responding to the trolls because by January when he's averaging 24-25 ppg... it's gonna be funny watching Joyner and these guys disappear.

who are you fooling you respond to everyone you are the biggest clipper troll on the forum.

[28renyoy]

One game where he took 11 shots and played against a team he always struggles with :oldlol: . I'm not even bothering responding to the trolls because by January when he's averaging 24-25 ppg... it's gonna be funny watching Joyner and these guys disappear.

1 game was enough for you to annoint Jordan as a more skilled Tyson Chandler and the Clippers a legitimate title contender, but it's not enough for others to make the assumption that Griffin is overrated?

[ballsohard247]

His stats may stay around the same as last year for the remaining years of his prime but he will improve his jumpshot, post moves and defense so he will become a much better player. Personally I expect 26/12 - 28/13 depending on the pace the Clippers decide to play. Not necessarily this year but at some point in his career.

[Clippersfan86]

1 game was enough for you to annoint Jordan as a more skilled Tyson Chandler and the Clippers a legitimate title contender, but it's not enough for others to make the assumption that Griffin is overrated?

You're not understanding simple concepts. DeAndre normally fouls out against the Lakers. All I said is he looked dominant on defense and I never called the Clippers a title contender now. Blake Griffin has struggled against the Lakers every time. Look at last years boxscores and you'll see yourself. One game he shot like 30 percent vs Gasol/Bynum.

DeAndre isn't more skilled than Chandler.. he's just got a very good chance to be better as soon as this year and people know/acknowledge that. Tyson's never been the shot blocking presence DeAndre is right now. Tyson's a better man defender but when it comes to altering shots at the rim.. he's not as good.

That being said DJ hasn't surpassed Chandler yet until he sustains it over a full season... and Clippers aren't title contenders yet :facepalm . They don't need to be. I know you're feeling the pressure of the Clippers as a Thunder fan but it will be one more year before we are good enough to sweep you guys in the playoffs, so relax.

You don't need to make multiple agenda driven threads saying Thunder>Clippers. We know how you feel, just let it play out.

I find it hilarious that it took Durant 3 years to lead a team to the playoffs.... and Durant took 2 or 3 seasons to really become elite... yet you hold the Clippers to some insane standard. 22.5 ppg, 12 rpg and 4 apg Blake is very overrated because he didn't carry the team anywhere. Clippers aren't good why? You have no idea how dominant the team will or won't be.

Thunder record first 2 years with Durant. 19 wins.. and 23 wins. Of course you're not a Thunder fan.. you're a Durant fan so you don't understand these simple concepts.

[Nets fan 93]

One game where he took 11 shots and played against a team he always struggles with :oldlol: . I'm not even bothering responding to the trolls because by January when he's averaging 24-25 ppg... it's gonna be funny watching Joyner and these guys disappear.
You see that much of an improvement with the new and improved players around him? They either stay the same or go down a bit.

[OmniStrife]

Well it's not as bold a prediction as you might think.

He played on a shit team last year compared to what he'll have this year and onward.

[Clippersfan86]

You see that much of an improvement with the new and improved players around him? They either stay the same or go down a bit.

You're right... maybe 23 ppg. I do see at LEAST a marginal improvement on offense though. I think CP3 and Billups will learn to defer to Griffin more. Griffin's biggest problem is he needs to set screens better. The dude rolls to the basket before making any contact. He needs to stop doing that. It's a very bad habit! You hit the player... THEN you roll to the basket.

[Fiasco]

It won't be his best, but his scoring will most likely drop this year. Last year, all half court possessions went through Griffin, nearly all of them in isolation situations. This had a lot to do with who our point guards were at the time, but seeing as we now have one the best playing for us the offence is going to look dramatically different.

A lot of Griffin's scoring is going to have to be off of mid range jumpers and lobs, but I think this will help him be a more complete player in the long run.

[ballsohard247]

It won't be his best, but his scoring will most likely drop this year. Last year, all half court possessions went through Griffin, nearly all of them in isolation situations. This had a lot to do with who our point guards were at the time, but seeing as we now have one the best playing for us the offence is going to look dramatically different.

A lot of Griffin's scoring is going to have to be off of mid range jumpers and lobs, but I think this will help him be a more complete player in the long run.
I agree. CP3 will get more players involved and carry a good bit of the scoring load himself so Blake won't be the focal point anymore. This is definitely not a bad thing though. Envious of you Clipper fans getting CP3.

[28renyoy]

Here we go again with the Durant-Griffin record comparisons. The Clippers won 29 games the year before Griffin joined the team and they lost noone of substance, only Gordon got better. They went what, 4-13 when Gordon was out of the lineup last year? Ya I'm sure Griffin was the reason for that 3 game win improvement. Durant on the otherhand joined a team that lost its 2 best players and the 2nd best player on the team was Chris Wilcox

[Clippersfan86]

People don't understand CP3 isn't the one who stopped Griffin's offense. It was Billups. If you watch footage of last night you'll see many times Griffin was in great position and Billups jacked up shots early in shot clock. He got caught up into a personal battle with Kobe. Sure we dominated the game so nobody complained but if Billups is shooting 15 shots all year long and shooting early in shotclock it's going to become a problem.

Chris Paul was perfect finding Griffin all game long. It's Billups who need to settle down and not play like a first option over the course of the season. Sure I'd prefer us win a ton of games no matter who scores... but we don't want to upset Griffin for not getting enough touches (11 shots) and take away that inside/out dominance.

I don't want us to become a new Phoenix Suns where we beat teams by bombing 3's with our perimeter guys. We need Griffin to get going early in games like he did last year.

[Clippersfan86]

Here we go again with the Durant-Griffin record comparisons. The Clippers won 29 games the year before Griffin joined the team and they lost noone of substance, only Gordon got better. They went what, 4-13 when Gordon was out of the lineup last year? Ya I'm sure Griffin was the reason for that 3 game win improvement. Durant on the otherhand joined a team that lost its 2 best players and the 2nd best player on the team was Chris Wilcox

19 wins, 23 wins. All you need to know. Durant didn't turn his team around at all in his first two seasons. You should know first hand that basketball isn't black and white. Players take time to develop and do so at different rates.

[MooseJuiceBowen]

You're not understanding simple concepts. DeAndre normally fouls out against the Lakers. All I said is he looked dominant on defense and I never called the Clippers a title contender now. Blake Griffin has struggled against the Lakers every time. Look at last years boxscores and you'll see yourself. One game he shot like 30 percent vs Gasol/Bynum.

DeAndre isn't more skilled than Chandler.. he's just got a very good chance to be better as soon as this year and people know/acknowledge that. Tyson's never been the shot blocking presence DeAndre is right now. Tyson's a better man defender but when it comes to altering shots at the rim.. he's not as good.

That being said DJ hasn't surpassed Chandler yet until he sustains it over a full season... and Clippers aren't title contenders yet :facepalm . They don't need to be. I know you're feeling the pressure of the Clippers as a Thunder fan but it will be one more year before we are good enough to sweep you guys in the playoffs, so relax.

You don't need to make multiple agenda driven threads saying Thunder>Clippers. We know how you feel, just let it play out.

I find it hilarious that it took Durant 3 years to lead a team to the playoffs.... and Durant took 2 or 3 seasons to really become elite... yet you hold the Clippers to some insane standard. 22.5 ppg, 12 rpg and 4 apg Blake is very overrated because he didn't carry the team anywhere. Clippers aren't good why? You have no idea how dominant the team will or won't be.

Thunder record first 2 years with Durant. 19 wins.. and 23 wins. Of course you're not a Thunder fan.. you're a Durant fan so you don't understand these simple concepts.

did you just say the clippers would sweep the thunder in the playoffs next year? :facepalm

I dont even need to call you the worst clipper troll out there you prove it everyday

[beau_boy04]

My expectations of their 2011-12 stats

Blake Griffin 21ppg, 12rpg, 3.5 apg
Deandre Jordan 11ppg, 10rpg, 2.5bpg
CP3 17ppg, 11apg, 3spg
Billups 13ppg, 4apg
Butler 11ppg


That makes up 73ppg for their starters.

[Clippersfan86]

My expectations of their 2011-12 stats

Blake Griffin 21ppg, 12rpg, 3.5 apg
Deandre Jordan 11ppg, 10rpg, 2.5bpg
CP3 17ppg, 11apg, 3spg
Billups 13ppg, 4apg
Butler 11ppg


That makes up 73ppg for their starters.

Very fair prediction. I'd say you can give Griffin 4.2 apg or so given the increase in kick out options though. I think Griffin's best years will come a few years from now. Everything else looks pretty spot on in my estimation.

[Kiddlovesnets]

Guess my prediction is most likely going to be correct. ^^

[senelcoolidge]

Griffin is no Tyreke Evans. Griffin actually has work ethic and is improving. His numbers may not increase or could even decrease a little playing on a team with so many other guys that can score and rebound. That's normal it's a team game. He's not a player out for stats. Griffin is putting different things into his game and when those things come together he will be incredible. This season he's concentrating more on the jump shot which is still a work in progress. That jump shot will be automatic in a few years. He's added more moves in the paint. His defense needs to improve. All of those things will get better. Remember he's only a 2nd year player. He will have much better seasons for years to come. You can't question his will to win and work ethic. Those things make a player great. If he has a small drop off in one season it's no big deal. Don't panic.

[Kobr]

Guess my prediction is most likely going to be correct. ^^

Too early to tell. Besides... the difference isn't huge so far

2010-11 Season: 22.5 PTS, 12.1 REB, 3.8 AST, 0.8 STL, 0.5 BLK on .506 FG%
2011-12 Season: 21.2 PTS, 11.7 REB, 2.9 AST, 1.0 STL, 0.5 BLK on .509 FG%

[FindingTim]

Pretty much. He will never see more than 12 rebounds a game, too much jumping.

His rebounds will dip to probable 10.5-11 area and score around the same area. He's an Amare type player... just shorter.

Blake's defining trait (other than hops) is his relentless energy and hustle on the court. Does that sound like Amare Stoudemire vol. II?

[Kiddlovesnets]

It seems obvious that I was right now...
:applause:

[EnoughSaid]

Funny how he's doing WORSE this season with the best PG in the league. :facepalm

[Kiddlovesnets]

Funny how he's doing WORSE this season with the best PG in the league. :facepalm

Yeah apparently Blake Griffin is no David West, he does not have the expected chemistry with CP3 as most PFs do. Id say Clippers have to trade one of them to avoid an epic meltdown. Firing Negro will make them a better team, but wont solve this ultimate problem.

[LoneyROY7]

Funny how he's doing WORSE this season with the best PG in the league. :facepalm

He's taking less shots per game, playing less minutes per game, and is shooting a higher percentage...

[Fiasco]

He's taking less shots per game, playing less minutes per game, and is shooting a higher percentage...

And really, if he was shooting his FT% from last year he'd be right back at 22 ppg.

[Clippersfan86]

And really, if he was shooting his FT% from last year he'd be right back at 22 ppg.

Also... why are we talking about this in his 2nd season? Maybe wait till 6 or 7 before bumping a ridiculous thread like this.

[knicksman]

Also... why are we talking about this in his 2nd season? Maybe wait till 6 or 7 before bumping a ridiculous thread like this.

because it will happen eventually. Isnt that the purpose of this board? To be first at everything

[qrich]

He's taking less shots per game, playing less minutes per game, and is shooting a higher percentage...

and more importantly, winning more games.

Blake hasn't improved greatly by any means and I have, at times, thought we might be seeing him at his peak, but with his work ethic, who knows how much he can improve. If he improves his free throw shooting, gets confidence on his jumper to make it more consistent, and learns how to set a screen, I could see him being a dominant offensive force. His defense has ways and ways to go though

[28renyoy]

yearly bump...

[STATUTORY]

he would average 25/15 if he went to the Nets and they built around him.

[Kiddlovesnets]

yearly bump...

umm whats the point of bumping this thread? So far my prediction has not been off by a bit.


he would average 25/15 if he went to the Nets and they built around him.
Not everyone is Dwight Superman Howard.
:no:

[Clippersfan86]

umm whats the point of bumping this thread? So far my prediction has not been off by a bit.


Not everyone is Dwight Superman Howard.
:no:

He's agreeing with you actually but I'm glad he bumped it to prove how wrong and idiotic this thread is. Blake is having the best stretch of his career and flat out dominating. Just put up a statistical week last accomplished by 2005 Lebron. He's playing like a top 5 most complete player in the game at this very moment.

[Clippersfan86]

Last 6 games for Blake:

23.7 ppg, 9.7 rpg, 5.7 apg, 2.3 spg

[dunksby]

He's agreeing with you actually but I'm glad he bumped it to prove how wrong and idiotic this thread is. Blake is having the best stretch of his career and flat out dominating. Just put up a statistical week last accomplished by 2005 Lebron. He's playing like a top 5 most complete player in the game at this very moment.

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[Clippersfan86]

:oldlol:

[Kiddlovesnets]

:oldlol:
Why are you laughing? If I were the clippers GM I'd trade Blake griffin for David west straight up. The team is built around Chris Paul, so you need to surround him with players that fits his system and exhibits good chemistry with him.

[Clippersfan86]

Why are you laughing? If I were the clippers GM I'd trade Blake griffin for David west straigt up. The team is built around Chris Paul, so you need to surround him with players that fits his system and exhibits good chemistry win him.

:oldlol: :roll:

[TheCalmInsanity]

Why are you laughing? If I were the clippers GM I'd trade Blake griffin for David west straigt up. The team is built around Chris Paul, so you need to surround him with players that fits his system and exhibits good chemistry win him.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLL

Have you ever heard the Trololo song by the Russian guy? That should be your life's theme song.

[Kiddlovesnets]

:oldlol: :roll:

Still dont get why you are laughing. Blake Griffin and David West are as good as each other, and the latter is a better fit for CP3. Sure David West may be somewhat older, but your team needs to rebuild once CP3 is washed up anyway.

[TheCalmInsanity]

Still dont get why you are laughing. Blake Griffin and David West are as good as each other, and the latter is a better fit for CP3. Sure David West may be somewhat older, but your team needs to rebuild once CP3 is washed up anyway.

Trololololo lololo lololooooooo hahahahahaaaaaaaaa

[Clippersfan86]

Still dont get why you are laughing. Blake Griffin and David West are as good as each other, and the latter is a better fit for CP3. Sure David West may be somewhat older, but your team needs to rebuild once CP3 is washed up anyway.

:oldlol: :biggums:

[Kiddlovesnets]

Are Clippers fans hyper today? Laughing at common sense?
:rolleyes:

[Clippersfan86]

Are Clippers fans hyper today? Laughing at common sense?
:rolleyes:
:roll: :applause: