Donovan or Rooney?

[9erEmpire]

Give me Donovan.

He's a better international player and has more goals than Rooney. Rooney is on the verge of being a nobody while Donovan is still winning championships in his league.

Much more versatile and can score.

Rooney's upside is good teammates and very physical player.

[VishaltotheG]

**** all you socheads

[LJJ]

OP:


http://i.imgur.com/eCzmY.jpg

[JtotheIzzo]

the dumbing down of the board is on display in this thread.

[Done_And_Done]

(Clearly in Troll Mode)

Nevertheless,

With all due respect to Landon because I respect what he's accomplished throughout his career, Rooney is just on another level as a footballer. Thanks for coming out though...

[9erEmpire]

(Clearly in Troll Mode)

Nevertheless,

With all due respect to Landon because I respect what he's accomplished throughout his career, Rooney is just on another level as a footballer. Thanks for coming out though...

success is subjective to some but it's easy to see that people forget Landon's superior play over Rooney in international competition.

Donovan just came off a year where he won championship in league.

[Done_And_Done]

So what's your point?

By that logic of thought process, one would be insinuating that Matarazzi is a better player then Cristiano. Marco could have 100 tournaments like he did in 06 and he'd still be a mere rotation player in comparison to Ronaldo who's obviously the better of the 2...

Find a productive hobby + Quit trolling...

[9erEmpire]

So what's your point?

By that logic of thought process, one would be insinuating that Matarazzi is a better player then Cristiano. Marco could have 100 tournaments like he did in 06 and he'd still be a mere rotation player in comparison to Ronaldo who's obviously the better of the 2...

Find a productive hobby + Quit trolling...

Give me Marco in international play all day then.

[Done_And_Done]

Give me Marco in international play all day then.

lol Okaaaaay

[BurningHammer]

Well, Donovan has already had some positive iconic moments for his USA Team while Rooney hasn't yet with England.

Other than that, Rooney is always better.

[macmac]

Give me Marco in international play all day then.

What a retard

[Nick Young]

the man who performs in the world cups and conference tournaments:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :rockon:

Donovan has more goals in one world cup tournament that Rooney has in his entire world cup career LAWL

[alenleomessi]

damn it must suck when scrubs like donovan and dempsey are the best players of a half bilion people nation in the most popular and important sport

[9erEmpire]

the man who performs in the world cups and conference tournaments:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :rockon:

Donovan has more goals in one world cup tournament that Rooney has in his entire world cup career LAWL

that's what I am saying.

[Nick Young]

damn it must suck when scrubs like donovan and dempsey are the best players of a half bilion people nation in the most popular and important sport
It sucks when the Macedonian education system is failing so many poor Macedonians who for some reason now believe that the United States population is half a billion people:roll:

Dempsey>Goran Pandev, the greatest Macedonian footballer in history:roll:

Oh yeah and, Brad Friedel is probably our best player at the moment, and Bocanegra and Maurice Edu are starring for Rangers, a champions league side.

[Nick Young]

[QUOTE]
Expect to hear the names Wayne Rooney of England and Landon Donovan of the U.S. often today during the much anticipated match. They are the biggest stars of their respective teams. Both defenses will likely focus on stopping them.

Coincidentally, Rooney

[alenleomessi]

It sucks when the Macedonian education system is failing so many poor Macedonians who for some reason now believe that the United States population is half a billion people:roll:

Dempsey>Goran Pandev, the greatest Macedonian footballer in history:roll:

Oh yeah and, Brad Friedel is probably our best player at the moment, and Bocanegra and Maurice Edu are starring for Rangers, a champions league side.
Not sure about that one, Pandev has been very solid in that past few games for Napoli - champions league team and a pretty good one
I dont see Rangers in CL too, u must have mixed it up with fifa manager

And the best Mac. player ever is Darko Pancev, a man who won the European CUP ( now known as CL ) by scoring the winning penalty
He also played for Inter and was considered one of the best strikers in the world
He also won Golden Boot award in 1991

But of course u wouldnt know this u ignorant bastard

[Nick Young]

Not sure about that one, Pandev has been very solid in that past few games for Napoli - champions league team and a pretty good one
I dont see Rangers in CL too, u must have mixed it up with fifa manager

And the best Mac. player ever is Darko Pancev, a man who won the European CUP ( now known as CL ) by scoring the winning penalty
He also played for Inter and was considered one of the best strikers in the world
He also won Golden Boot award in 1991

But of course u wouldnt know this u ignorant bastard
Donovan+Dempsey+Friedel>Pancev :roll: Carried by his team to the European cup!

[Swaggin916]

Maradona >>> Messi too right? Better Internationally so it must be true!

GTFO Some guys just get hot in tournaments when it comes to goal scoring like Muller last year.

wayne rooney is 10X the player donovan or any other american ever. even when the man is not scoring, he is moving the ball beautifully and has clinical finishing ability. It's not just his fault england just can't put anything together despite having an absolute assload of talent.

If rooney was american... would we be having this conversation? No because hands down he would be the better player scoring 20 plus goals in the PL no matter what he did internationally. A lot of people think Dempsey is better Donovan anyway and Friedel is probably better than either of them when it comes to performance at position.

[west_tip]

Maradona >>> Messi too right? Better Internationally so it must be true!


Are you suggesting that isnt the case?

Maradona>>>>>>>>>>>Messi. Realtalk.

As for the OP Donovan all day, that cos I hate Mongs United.

[alenleomessi]

Are you suggesting that isnt the case?

Maradona>>>>>>>>>>>Messi. Realtalk.

As for the OP Donovan all day, that cos I hate Mongs United.
Thats not what Maradona himself thinks
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/924058/diego-maradona-says-lionel-messi-is-as-good-as-him?cc=5739

[west_tip]

Thats not what Maradona himself thinks
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/924058/diego-maradona-says-lionel-messi-is-as-good-as-him?cc=5739

Nowhere in that article does he say Messi is equal to him, he says Messi is equal to the hype ie. most players that were compared to Maradona before were overrated.

Anyone over the age of 35 who saw both play will say Maradona is better. Only a 12 year old fanboy would think otherwise.

[hammer2010]

Rooney could literally beast down field while eating Donovan and then shitting him out before scoring a goal.

[west_tip]

Rooney could literally beast down field while eating Donovan and then shitting him out before scoring a goal.

When the USA played us last year Rooney didnt do shit. Marked out of the game by Jay DeMerit. Who? Exactly. Marked out of a game by a no name scrub. :facepalm

[Nick Young]

Maradona >>> Messi too right? Better Internationally so it must be true!

GTFO Some guys just get hot in tournaments when it comes to goal scoring like Muller last year.

wayne rooney is 10X the player donovan or any other american ever. even when the man is not scoring, he is moving the ball beautifully and has clinical finishing ability. It's not just his fault england just can't put anything together despite having an absolute assload of talent.

If rooney was american... would we be having this conversation? No because hands down he would be the better player scoring 20 plus goals in the PL no matter what he did internationally. A lot of people think Dempsey is better Donovan anyway and Friedel is probably better than either of them when it comes to performance at position.
You were trying to be sarcastic here, which only makes you look stupider but yes, this is extremely true, only a moron would say Messi>Maradona

[Nick Young]

Rooney could literally beast down field while eating Donovan and then shitting him out before scoring a goal.
but not if it's the world cup:roll: :roll: :roll:

[ukballer]

Wow

[hammer2010]

Brb. Making a 'JJ Barea or Chris Paul' thread in NBA section.

[BurningHammer]

You were trying to be sarcastic here, which only makes you look stupider but yes, this is extremely true, only a moron would say Messi>Maradona
Exactly. If Messi's team wins the World Cup then we talk.

[Jailblazers7]

damn it must suck when scrubs like donovan and dempsey are the best players of a half bilion people nation in the most popular and important sport

Soccer (yeah I know calling it soccer pisses people off) isn't even top 5 in importance an popularity in the US.

[BurningHammer]

Soccer (yeah I know calling it soccer pisses people off) isn't even top 5 in importance an popularity in the US.
But American youth soccer is huge enough to produce some great exports, isn't it?

[Jailblazers7]

But American youth soccer is huge enough to produce some great exports, isn't it?

Most kids stop playing youth soccer pretty early on and focus on basketball, baseball, and/or football.

[Nick Young]

GTFO Some guys just get hot in tournaments when it comes to goal scoring like Muller last year.

LAWL Also completely wrong, there's no reason on earth Rooney is better than Thomas Muller and he has done absolutely nothing to prove it.

[Swaggin916]

If anything, the opposite is true. Every good soccer player that comes out of England is over rated to hell.
However, Rooney is better then Donovan to me (unless I just feel like pissing some people off) He's not half of what he's made out to be though.

Nope just some bum who scores 20+ a season when fit in the toughest league in the world and the only reason Man U scored against Barca was due to his brilliance... but who cares about that stuff anyway internationally he's done nothing.

Me GTFO? Yea Muller is a good player, but he does not have the skillset or impact on a game that rooney does. People sell the guy short because he gets a lot of media love but that's cus he's the best player on Man U. I didn't used to know crap about Soccer but I knew who Beckham and Ryan Giggs were because of Man U.

you can try to argue your point all day about Muller being better that Rooney but it make a shit bit of difference being that I've seen hundreds of Man U games and a good 50 Bayern games +world cup etc. I've seen em both and I know who's better.

[Swaggin916]

I don't think Muller is better then Rooney. Hell, he's not the best dutch player. Van Persie is better, but Rooney is not as good as he's made out to be. He's definitely not top 5.

It's hard to be the best dutch player when you are German.

[hammer2010]

I don't think Muller is better then Rooney. Hell, he's not the best dutch player. Van Persie is better, but Rooney is not as good as he's made out to be. He's definitely not top 5.

Rooney's the LeBron James of soccer. A physical beast but always chokes on the big stage. Also I see hair plugs in Bron's future as well. :lol

[Swaggin916]

Rooney's the LeBron James of soccer. A physical beast but always chokes on the big stage. Also I see hair plugs in Bron's future as well. :lol
Like I have said Soccer is not like Basketball there are 10 dudes running around out there on a massive field there are going to be games where you don't have that much of an impact. Look at freakin Messi internationally even he can't get his mojo going many times because he doesn't see the ball nearly as much and internationally it's more unorganized and people you don't play with all the time. Guys like rooney and Messi who are very vision based players need other players to see things that they do and internationally they just don't. I'm not going to give them a free pass, but I do cut them some slack for that. At the end of the day they are considered the best players and should take a share of the blame for their teams failiure to win a major competition.

[Swaggin916]

Lol. I realized how retarded that was like 30 seconds after I posted it. I always get Muller mixed up with Robben. Still, they were similar in that they both played better on the world stage then they really are. It doesn't mean much when you can't replicate it.

Yea I wasn't going to give you too much shit for that it happens lol. Yea and that's what irks me. some guys just go bananas on the world stage like David Villa and get overated the hell out of because it was international... or like a Forlan. Lets face it David Villa is just a Jermain Defoe on steroids can pull a goal out of his ass from anywhere but not much else.

[hammer2010]

Like I have said Soccer is not like Basketball there are 10 dudes running around out there on a massive field there are going to be games where you don't have that much of an impact. Look at freakin Messi internationally even he can't get his mojo going many times because he doesn't see the ball nearly as much and internationally it's more unorganized and people you don't play with all the time. Guys like rooney and Messi who are very vision based players need other players to see things that they do and internationally they just don't. I'm not going to give them a free pass, but I do cut them some slack for that. At the end of the day they are considered the best players and should take a share of the blame for their teams failiure to win a major competition.

Good post! Great insight for a casual fan like myself. And Robben's a pimp. My favorite player. :rockon:

[chains5000]

Yea I wasn't going to give you too much shit for that it happens lol. Yea and that's what irks me. some guys just go bananas on the world stage like David Villa and get overated the hell out of because it was international... or like a Forlan. Lets face it David Villa is just a Jermain Defoe on steroids can pull a goal out of his ass from anywhere but not much else.
Villa's actually really good, check his numbers outside Barcelona, where he plays out of position. I hope he gets traded so he proves how good he is.
I'd like to see him in Chelsea instead of Torres, playing with Mata again.

[Nick Young]

Yea I wasn't going to give you too much shit for that it happens lol. Yea and that's what irks me. some guys just go bananas on the world stage like David Villa and get overated the hell out of because it was international... or like a Forlan. Lets face it David Villa is just a Jermain Defoe on steroids can pull a goal out of his ass from anywhere but not much else.
wtf you keep saying retarded things:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

[west_tip]

Villa's actually really good, check his numbers outside Barcelona, where he plays out of position. I hope he gets traded so he proves how good he is.
I'd like to see him in Chelsea instead of Torres, playing with Mata again.

I didnt know you supported Chelsea as well as Ath Bilbao :applause: Always great to hear another convert to the Blue religion :cheers:

[chains5000]

I didnt know you supported Chelsea as well as Ath Bilbao :applause: Always great to hear another convert to the Blue religion :cheers:
I don't support Chelsea. It's just a good team that needs a good striker, where Villa would be a great fit.
IMO Chelsea's weak point is their strikers.

[Nick Young]

I don't support Chelsea. It's just a good team that needs a good striker, where Villa would be a great fit.
IMO Chelsea's weak point is their strikers.
Villa, Aguero, Suarez, even Zlatan who I don't like would all have been great fits but we had to go and spend more money than those players cost and wound up with the worst possible fit Fernando Torres:facepalm

David Villa is the best striker in the world forced to play out of position on a left wing just to appease Messi's ego. Before Messi demanded to lead the forward line and Villa was the man on top he was scoring with ease for Barca, it's only when Gardiola shoved him on the left that he started playing badly and even when playing badly he still routinely comes up with game changing moments of brilliance. One of the few Barca players besides Affelay and Iniesta I enjoy watching play.

[chains5000]

Villa, Aguero, Suarez, even Zlatan who I don't like would all have been great fits but we had to go and spend more money than those players cost and wound up with the worst possible fit Fernando Torres:facepalm

David Villa is the best striker in the world forced to play out of position on a left wing just to appease Messi's ego. Before Messi demanded to lead the forward line and Villa was the man on top he was scoring with ease for Barca, it's only when Gardiola shoved him on the left that he started playing badly and even when playing badly he still routinely comes up with game changing moments of brilliance. One of the few Barca players besides Affelay and Iniesta I enjoy watching play.
You gotta admit it works for Barcelona. I think it's not fair for Villa, but winning > everything.

[9erempiree]

Damn.

Look at the fools on here taking Rooney.:facepalm

[step_back]

Damn.

Look at the fools on here taking Rooney.:facepalm

Rooney has sucked in international competitions, but if you think Donovan is on par with Rooney you're ****ing retarded.

No one in their right mind would take Donovan over Rooney. You're just a trolling prick that's all.

[9erempiree]

Rooney has sucked in international competitions, but if you think Donovan is on par with Rooney you're ****ing retarded.

No one in their right mind would take Donovan over Rooney. You're just a trolling prick that's all.

Donovan is one of the greatest WC players in history. There are a lot of greats better than him but the fact of the matter is, he is miles ahead of Rooney in international play.

[step_back]

Donovan is one of the greatest WC players in history. There are a lot of greats better than him but the fact of the matter is, he is miles ahead of Rooney in international play.

World cup and international competitions are not as high a priority as they should be for most Brits and that includes the players (Sad but that's just the way it is). The majority would rather there club win the premiership. Sure if we did win it would be great.

I'd like to see England go all the way but realistically it's not happening this year. Nearly 2/3rds of the squad are new to international play. Our best chance was back in 98 and for the future Euro 2016 will be a good look at how well we've improved.

Apart from biased Americans I still don't know anyone who would take Donovan over Rooney. People also forget he put the ball in the box which got us our goal last night. No one has mentioned his assist, but then again barely anyone on ISH can actually formulate a constructive unbiased post.

[Uncle Drew]

Both guys didn't make the World Cup squad.

[Nick Young]

Damn.

Look at the fools on here taking Rooney.:facepalm
XD he scores hattricks vs Andorra and San Marino in qualifying doe:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[b1imtf]

Both guys didn't make the World Cup squad.
:roll:

[Nick Young]

Rooney has sucked in international competitions, but if you think Donovan is on par with Rooney you're ****ing retarded.

No one in their right mind would take Donovan over Rooney. You're just a trolling prick that's all.
Donavan delivers goals in world cups and creates chances. Rooneys job is to create chances and score goals for his team. In 9 world cup games, Rooney has 0 goals and 1 assist.

Only a fool would take Rooney ahead of Donovan in the world cup.

If you want a guy who chokes and misses golden chances in the cup, and gets sent off, you want Rooney.

If you want a guy who scores goals and doesn't get phased by the occassion you want Landon Donovan.

Can't believe there is anyone on the planet who'd choose Rooney ahead of Donovan. Only retarded Englishmen:roll:

[lakers_forever]

Donovan is one of the greatest WC players in history. There are a lot of greats better than him but the fact of the matter is, he is miles ahead of Rooney in international play.

:lol :oldlol: What? Dude never reached the semi-final and never made an all wc team. I'm sure he has had a respectable career, but one of the greatest wc player ever? No way. You easily make a top 50 of germans and brazilians cmonbined more important to WC history than him.

Brazilians only:

Leonidas - Golden ball - Best player of the 1938 world cup.
Zizinho - Golden Ball - Best player of the 1950 world cup
Ademir - Golden Boot (leading scorer) and Bronze Ball - third best player of the 1950 world cup.
Gylmar - 2 time wc champion as a starter (58 and 62)
Djalma Santos - 2 time wc champion as a starter (58 and 62)
Nilton Santos - 2 time wc champion as a starter (68 and 62)
Bellini - 2 time wc champion. Starter in 58 and reserve in 62.
Zito - 2 time wc champion as a starter (58 and 62)
Zagallo - 2 time wc champion as a starter (58 and 62)
Garrincha - 2 time wc champion as a starter (58 and 62). Golden Ball - Best player in the 1962 world cup.
Didi - 2 time wc champion as a starter (58 and 62). Golden Ball - Best player in the 1958 world cup.
Pele - 3 time wc champion. Golden Ball - Best player in 1970 and Silver Ball - second best player in 1958.
Gerson - Silver ball - second best player of the 1970 world cup. Part of arguably the greatest team ever.
Carlos Alberto - Captain of the 1970 world cup winning team.
Rivellino - Part of the 1970 team and made the all wc team.
Jairzinho - Part of the 1970 team and mate the all wc team (Scored at least one goal at every game).
Clodoaldo - Also starter for the 1970 team and a legendary DM.
[B]Tost

[Nick Young]

World cup and international competitions are not as high a priority as they should be for most Brits and that includes the players (Sad but that's just the way it is). The majority would rather there club win the premiership. Sure if we did win it would be great.

I'd like to see England go all the way but realistically it's not happening this year. Nearly 2/3rds of the squad are new to international play. Our best chance was back in 98 and for the future Euro 2016 will be a good look at how well we've improved.

Apart from biased Americans I still don't know anyone who would take Donovan over Rooney. People also forget he put the ball in the box which got us our goal last night. No one has mentioned his assist, but then again barely anyone on ISH can actually formulate a constructive unbiased post.
First assist in 9 world cup games from Rooney, and it came in a losing effort! That creative spark from Rooney doe amirite? XD


Last time America played Italy in the world cup, we tied them, thanks in no small part to the creative industry of Landon Donovan.

Get up to speed England. If you want to be as good as America you have to drop your scrubs like Rooney and put in players who actually get the job done when it matters.


Don't forget USA topped CONCACAF. Honduras with 10 men stopped England easily. Costa Rica just pwned a world cup dark horse Uruguay. I wonder how much England would struggle to qualify out of CONCACAF. They wouldn't get to play easy teams like Montenegro and San Marino.
:roll:

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I love these guys. I haven't laughed this much since the last time I watched the MLS

[step_back]

First assist in 9 world cup games from Rooney, and it came in a losing effort! That creative spark from Rooney doe amirite? XD


Last time America played Italy in the world cup, we tied them, thanks in no small part to the creative industry of Landon Donovan.

Get up to speed England. If you want to be as good as America you have to drop your scrubs like Rooney and put in players who actually get the job done when it matters.


Don't forget USA topped CONCACAF. Honduras with 10 men stopped England easily. Costa Rica just pwned a world cup dark horse Uruguay. I wonder how much England would struggle to qualify out of CONCACAF. They wouldn't get to play easy teams like Montenegro and San Marino.
:roll:

America better than England in Football. Um yeah I don't think so. But then again this is you posting after all.

You're also choosing to ignore that I already stated Rooney has sucked in international competitions but that still doesn't mean that Donovan is on par with him as a player. Otherwise Donovan wouldn't have wasted most of his career playing in the MLS and would've had a decent career playing in Europe.

I expect too much from here. I should be used to dealing with retarded Americans by now.

[Done_And_Done]

My answer remains unchanged : D

[9erempiree]

Donovan's presence was felt today. Clutch.

[Nick Young]

World Cup: Has Landon Donovan outscored Rooney, Ronaldo, Messi, Ibrahimovic combined? | SIDELINE


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhAULo5CEAAL8EC.jpg
http://www.mlssoccer.com/sideline/news/article/2014/02/21/world-cup-has-landon-donovan-outscored-rooney-ronaldo-messi-ibrahimovic-comb

suck it eurofags. Bet England really wishing they had this guy instead of Rooney right now:lol

[kNIOKAS]

Eh, Nick Young still looking for attention :)

[RagaZ]

Slovenia, Algeria, Poland etc.

[Nick Young]

congratulations Rooney! After 10 games you finally scored in a losing effort! Maybe if you are lucky you can help lead England to a draw vs Costa Rica (a team Donovan has beaten about 10 times in the past 3 years:lol )