Bismack Biyombo

[klee]

I haven't had the time to watch Charlotte's past 2 games, but to someone that has: how has he been doing and what's your personal outlook on the guy? All things considered, we know he's a raw athletic talent with a big upside potential and it looks like his minutes are slowly increasing (11 minutes his last game, 5 personal fouls). Anyone wanna take a stab at predicting how his stats and impact evolve as the season progresses?

[JrueHoliday11]

he wont amount to shit in this league --- BUST

[Phenith]

Honestly, he is so raw that he reminds me of those centers the Sonics kept taking (Swift, Sene, Petro). You really don't know what he is going to end up looking like as a player for at least 2 season, maybe even 3 or 4. He has super high bust potential and at best I see him as a solid interior defender who can pick up garbage points... maybe Chandler level (the actual Chandler level, not the super overhyped level people have put him at this off season)?

IMO, out of the league by the end of his rookie contract.

[JrueHoliday11]

Honestly, he is so raw that he reminds me of those centers the Sonics kept taking (Swift, Sene, Petro). You really don't know what he is going to end up looking like as a player for at least 2 season, maybe even 3 or 4. He has super high bust potential and at best I see him as a solid interior defender who can pick up garbage points... maybe Chandler level (the actual Chandler level, not the super overhyped level people have put him at this off season)?

IMO, out of the league by the end of his rookie contract.
sene is exactly who comes to mind, like i said BUST

[LJJ]

Honestly, he's not doing as bad as I thought he would. I thought he would be Sene, be he already looks much better than any version of Sene ever.

The reason he got 5 fouls last night is because he was going at it with Dwight Howard, and with Howard having the huge status over Biyombo he is always going to get all of the calls. Dwight Howard was actually having a lot of trouble with him, which is something you barely see in this league. That is exactly what promise looks like.

The kid has shown in the last two games that he is going to be a good defender in this league. Offensively he is super raw and won't amount to anything.

[ukballer]

SMH. Bust after 3 games. Shut up.

He's a 19 year old kid who has been playing pro basketball for less than a year. Yup he's raw, but coming from someone who has watched all 3 of the Bobcats games so far, he's much further along defensively than people will think. Good movement, good positioning, and not picking up half as many bad fouls as I expected him too.

Someone like Diop, you put him in with the expectation that he's gonna use up all his 6 fouls guarding a Dwight/Bynum type player. Biz is actually quite smart and picking and choosing when to make contact with the offensive player. He's a battler too, doesn't back down, even if it means getting dunked on (Larry Sanders...). Good character kid, happy to be in the league, ready to put the work in.

To the idiots who say bust, Biz is already accepting and acknowledging his role. Defensive player, likely to get very few touches offensively, and no doubt he's fine with that. He's already better than Diop, and he's managed to hang around in the league for many years and found his niche on a couple of teams.

Not a chance he gets cut. Some people really have no idea what they are talking about. :oldlol:

He's doing ok. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't see him being a bust at all, but he's unlikely to ever be a factor on offense, which to me isn't a problem.

[nbacardDOTnet]

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[kurple]

no way he's 19

[DukeDelonte13]

no way he's 19

:oldlol: possibly true. Watch him still manage to grow a few inches though. If he takes well to coaching he'll be very solid. Our own congolese athletic freak with minimal bball experience (eyenga) isn't such a good listener. :facepalm

[Teanett]

Bizmac!

[MiseryCityTexas]

that block on bosh looks like no bust to me.

[DuMa]

Bigs take the longest to develop. Give the kid time. He was not gonna turn into ibaka overnight

[NauruDude]

Bigs take the longest to develop. Give the kid time. He was not gonna turn into ibaka overnight

Why is everyone though mixing they're countries Rep of the congo, and Dem Rep of the congo together. They're not from the same country man.

[Teanett]

bizmac played very respectable d on howard.
he'll be better than ibaka.

[NauruDude]

bizmac played very respectable d on howard.
he'll be better than ibaka.

He's 19.
Dikembe Mutumbo (who he's been compared a bit too) was 25 when he entered the NBA. Dude's got a bright future on the defensive end at least. Dunno about his offensive end, that is still as raw as it gets.

[RintjeRitsma]

They're not from the same country man.

You can only compare players that are from the same country?

[Teanett]

He's 19.
Dikembe Mutumbo (who he's been compared a bit too) was 25 when he entered the NBA. Dude's got a bright future on the defensive end at least. Dunno about his offensive end, that is still as raw as it gets.

bizmac reminds me of a mix between deke and young rodman (not that he'll ever be that good). he's long, strong, quick and has loads of energy.

[blablabla]

His body is NBA ready his skills are not

The good thing you can work on your skills
and that's what he has to do

and the word of the year POTENTIAL it's used for every big man that can jump

[BrentISballin]

I've seen all bobcats games.

He's def. a crowd favorite ( along with Kemba) which is good for Charlotte because things have been depressing since Wallace left.

I see him becoming a defensive force later on in his career. Guy is super athletic but uses it to his advantage unlike some players. He's not afraid of anybody and that's what makes him fun to watch

[Teanett]

His body is NBA ready his skills are not

The good thing you can work on your skills
and that's what he has to do

and the word of the year POTENTIAL it's used for every big man that can jump

same thing was said about dwight.

[knickscity]

Why is everyone though mixing they're countries Rep of the congo, and Dem Rep of the congo together. They're not from the same country man.

Every single article I've read about Biyombo says they are fellow countrymen.

"Congolese country mate" is how most term it.

[NauruDude]

Every single article I've read about Biyombo says they are fellow countrymen.

"Congolese country mate" is how most term it.

They're not.

Bismack born in Lububmbashi, a city close to Zambia
Serge born in Brazzaville, a city on the banks of Congo river.

Both countries are named after the river, however one is the Republic of the Congo (Ibaka), while the other is the Democratic Republic of the Congo (Byiombo, Mutumbo)

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/images/congo-b.gif
Rep of the Congo (green) and Dem Rep of the Congo (big one below the green)

[HylianNightmare]

no way he's 19
this, guy has to be at least early 20's
but i think with some work he will turn into a mini dwight howard defense only

pretty much the defense and lobs of dwight but not much posting up

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Didn't he say he was going to lead the league in rebounds and blocks or something?

[Euroleague]

He was a scrub backup PF in a bad, small Spanish League club that didn't even play in any European competitions. He averaged something like 5/5 on that POS Spanish League (2nd best league in Europe) team, where he was Leo Mainoldi's backup.

Several Spanish League clubs said they had info that showed he was really 24 years old................

But of course, morons like Grinder tried to convince this forum that he was going to be a superstar in the NBA - and the sad thing is, the forum believed it.

[Euroleague]

SMH. Bust after 3 games. Shut up.

He's a 19 year old kid who has been playing pro basketball for less than a year. Yup he's raw, but coming from someone who has watched all 3 of the Bobcats games so far, he's much further along defensively than people will think. Good movement, good positioning, and not picking up half as many bad fouls as I expected him too.

Someone like Diop, you put him in with the expectation that he's gonna use up all his 6 fouls guarding a Dwight/Bynum type player. Biz is actually quite smart and picking and choosing when to make contact with the offensive player. He's a battler too, doesn't back down, even if it means getting dunked on (Larry Sanders...). Good character kid, happy to be in the league, ready to put the work in.

To the idiots who say bust, Biz is already accepting and acknowledging his role. Defensive player, likely to get very few touches offensively, and no doubt he's fine with that. He's already better than Diop, and he's managed to hang around in the league for many years and found his niche on a couple of teams.

Not a chance he gets cut. Some people really have no idea what they are talking about. :oldlol:

He's doing ok. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't see him being a bust at all, but he's unlikely to ever be a factor on offense, which to me isn't a problem.

The Spanish League clubs believe he was actually 24 at the time he was drafted. The NBA listed birth dates can never be trusted.

Turkoglu
Ilyasova
Yi
Mutombo
Olajuwon

All of them have been proven to have wrong birth dates listed by the NBA.

[Quizno]

He was a scrub backup PF in a bad, small Spanish League club that didn't even play in any European competitions. He averaged something like 5/5 on that POS Spanish League (2nd best league in Europe) team, where he was Leo Mainoldi's backup.

Several Spanish League clubs said they had info that showed he was really 24 years old................

But of course, morons like Grinder tried to convince this forum that he was going to be a superstar in the NBA - and the sad thing is, the forum believed it.
averaged 6.4 points and 5 rebounds per game in 17 minutes. more importantly, he averaged 2.3 blocks per game in 17 minutes. that's why he was drafted.

[Euroleague]

averaged 6.4 points and 5 rebounds per game in 17 minutes. more importantly, he averaged 2.3 blocks per game in 17 minutes. that's why he was drafted.

Those are scrub stats for the level he was playing at.

[RoseCity07]

This is a homerun pick by Cho because if he sucks now at least they can continue to stockpile talent and still get good picks. Let's say Charlotte gets a couple more good lottery picks and maybe a number one. Then around that time in a few years Biyombo could be just what they need.

Look at DeAndre Jordan.

[bluechox2]

jordan picks kwame 2.0

[ukballer]

The Spanish League clubs believe he was actually 24 at the time he was drafted. The NBA listed birth dates can never be trusted.

Turkoglu
Ilyasova
Yi
Mutombo
Olajuwon

All of them have been proven to have wrong birth dates listed by the NBA.

Sure.

[rufuspaul]

Last night: 19:54 min., 6 pts., 6 rbs., 2 blocks.

The kid did not have a training camp and couldn't practice with the team until just before the 1st exhibition. He's a project for sure but Paul Silas will make all the haters eat their words.

[kurple]

He's 19.
Dikembe Mutumbo (who he's been compared a bit too) was 25 when he entered the NBA. Dude's got a bright future on the defensive end at least. Dunno about his offensive end, that is still as raw as it gets.
He's not 19. come on

And I thought Thabeet was supposed to be the next Mutumbo and Bismack the next Ben Wallace

He could end up being a great defensive player, but he could end up as Thabeet and MANY big men before him

Time will tell, but I like his timing

[NauruDude]

He's not 19. come on

And I thought Thabeet was supposed to be the next Mutumbo and Bismack the next Ben Wallace

He could end up being a great defensive player, but he could end up as Thabeet and MANY big men before him

Time will tell, but I like his timing

I do believe he is 19. He went into some scans and something.

[LJJ]

Those are scrub stats for the level he was playing at.

Of course.

ACB is only the best domestic competition not named NBA and the best in Europe by a considerable margin.

And all he did was lead the entire league in blocks per game as a rookie, joining the team mid-season, in only 17 minutes per game at 19 years old.

He averaged almost a block more per game more than any other player in the league.

Scrub! Scrub!

[rufuspaul]

Against the Warriors he had 5 blocks in 12 minutes.:eek:

[iDunk]

He had like 5 blocks I think one game when he played only like 12 min.

[Rnbizzle]

Yeah dude can block a shot but from what I've seen he has stone hands, I'm sorry but I'm calling scrub.

[HylianNightmare]

dwight howard, PF version, minus any sort of offense

[boozehound]

Honestly, he's not doing as bad as I thought he would. I thought he would be Sene, be he already looks much better than any version of Sene ever.

The reason he got 5 fouls last night is because he was going at it with Dwight Howard, and with Howard having the huge status over Biyombo he is always going to get all of the calls. Dwight Howard was actually having a lot of trouble with him, which is something you barely see in this league. That is exactly what promise looks like.

The kid has shown in the last two games that he is going to be a good defender in this league. Offensively he is super raw and won't amount to anything.
see Maxiell, Jason. and how is he in this league? oh yeah

[boozehound]

Of course.

ACB is only the best domestic competition not named NBA and the best in Europe by a considerable margin.

And all he did was lead the entire league in blocks per game as a rookie, joining the team mid-season, in only 17 minutes per game at 19 years old.

He averaged almost a block more per game more than any other player in the league.

Scrub! Scrub!
yeah, the scrub talk is clearly kneejerk BS. That being said, dude is not going to be anything better than a 3rd big/defensive starter in the league. Which is fine, but not really for his draft position/hype.

[LJJ]

see Maxiell, Jason. and how is he in this league? oh yeah

A taller, more athletic Jason Maxiell with much better shotblocking?

Hey, I'll take it.

[abuC]

Should have taken Kawhi Leonard.

[franchise#3]

How is Hasheem Thabeet doing?

[rufuspaul]

Biyombo last night against Orlando: 5/5, 11 pts., 10 rbs, 4 blocks in 21 minutes.

:pimp:

[Phenith]

Biyombo last night against Orlando: 5/5, 11 pts., 10 rbs, 4 blocks in 21 minutes.

:pimp:

Oh, he had a good game... superstar in the making!! :rockon:

Surprised he stayed on the court for a whole 21 mins, he must have fouled out.

[2LeTTeRS]

Oh, he had a good game... superstar in the making!! :rockon:

Surprised he stayed on the court for a whole 21 mins, he must have fouled out.

Surprisingly he only had 4 fouls. Great game for him.

[rufuspaul]

Oh, he had a good game... superstar in the making!! :rockon:

Surprised he stayed on the court for a whole 21 mins, he must have fouled out.

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[Go Getter]

If I have a defensive center that blocks shots, plays good weak side D, rebounds, and doesn't turn the ball over I could give 2 shits less about what his offensive game looks like.

All he has to be able to do is catch and finish/putback/catch lobs.

[2LeTTeRS]

If I have a defensive center that blocks shots, plays good weak side D, rebounds, and doesn't turn the ball over I could give 2 shits less about what his offensive game looks like.

All he has to be able to do is catch and finish/putback/catch lobs.

Thats easy to say when you have a superstar point guard like Derrick Rose, but when your team struggles to score as much the Cats putting an offensive liability on the floor makes us even easier to defend.

Personally I'm willing to deal with that sacrifice, but a lot of the times it seems like Coach Silas isn't.

[El Kabong]

yeah, the scrub talk is clearly kneejerk BS. That being said, dude is not going to be anything better than a 3rd big/defensive starter in the league. Which is fine, but not really for his draft position/hype.
Not really, you look at some of the other bigs taken in the last decade or so during the lottery. It ain't exactly a home run list of quality guys.

2000 - Chris Mihm at 5, Joel Przybilla at 9, J

[Grinder]

Highlights of Biyombo's first career double-double (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FpgGYV4QLg).

If he could develop a go to move on the block, it'd help him become a much better player. His shot blocking instincts and length are incredible.

[2LeTTeRS]

You know why I love this kid? He doesn't back down from anyone. He had his best game of the season against the best big man in the league (who kills us 4 times a year every year), and afterward when asked about his performance only said "he's strong....[but] I'm strong, too."

Love that approach.

[Timmy D for MVP]

I haven't gotten a chance to watch him but from the highlights I've seen I kinda have this notion (people who have been watching please tell me if this is right):

Does he bait people? Like it seems to me that he'll let them see a window, they go to the bucket, and then all of the sudden his arm is there again. Idk, maybe he's just getting lucky but I've seen a lot of blocks from him where the player is by and then he makes up and blocks it.

I think he'll turn out to be a very good player, I think he'll develop a go to move so he's not an offensive liability, and will be able to average double doubles, while being an elite premier defender and shot blocker.

But it will take some time.

[2LeTTeRS]

I haven't gotten a chance to watch him but from the highlights I've seen I kinda have this notion (people who have been watching please tell me if this is right):

Does he bait people? Like it seems to me that he'll let them see a window, they go to the bucket, and then all of the sudden his arm is there again. Idk, maybe he's just getting lucky but I've seen a lot of blocks from him where the player is by and then he makes up and blocks it.

I think he'll turn out to be a very good player, I think he'll develop a go to move so he's not an offensive liability, and will be able to average double doubles, while being an elite premier defender and shot blocker.

But it will take some time.

I've noticed that too. And another thing I've noticed with that, that kind of goes along with that is he gets off the ground as fast as any big as I've ever seen. He is as explosive of a big as you will see in this league.

If he keeps that athleticism as he bulks up look out.

[KembaWalker]

I can't wait to see how he turns out. I'm actually excited.
The funny thing was, before the draft I knew my two favourite players of that class would Kemba and Bismack. Then some how they end up on the same team ahaha

[zac]

I've noticed that too. And another thing I've noticed with that, that kind of goes along with that is he gets off the ground as fast as any big as I've ever seen. He is as explosive of a big as you will see in this league.

If he keeps that athleticism as he bulks up look out.
Yeah I've noticed it too. I've watched more Bobcats games this year than every before just to watch him and it seems like he definitely lets guys think they have him fooled then he somehow is right there where he wants to be to get the block.

[Whoah10115]

Mullens is very good, is he not? He's a stretch 5 and Silas is willing to accommodate unique skill sets.


Biyombo is not a center. He's a PF. And he's a shot-blocking PF who is supposed to be a monster rebounder, and a great athlete. Does he not sound perfect to play alongside Mullens? If he's as good as he seems to potentially be, then yeah. Add Kemba, who's really a 2guard and Henderson...trade Augustin and don't be surprised when this team is very good next year.

[Pointguard]

I've noticed that too. And another thing I've noticed with that, that kind of goes along with that is he gets off the ground as fast as any big as I've ever seen. He is as explosive of a big as you will see in this league.

If he keeps that athleticism as he bulks up look out.
Yeah, I notice that. His explosion is faster than Ben Wallace's. The jump hooks could mature into something nasty. The bait thing makes me think he's older than advertised. I think he going to be exciting to watch.