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HelterSkelter
01-02-2012, 03:41 PM
Scorers who fell short of heading onto the next level. I like Hibachi more. bout you?

hawkfan
01-02-2012, 03:44 PM
Stackhouse was a far, far better player overall than Arenas.
Arenas had a couple of good seasons and that was it.
Stackhouse actually showed himself to be able to be a star, a solid sixth man, and a good teammate overall.

StateOfMind12
01-02-2012, 03:45 PM
Gilbert Arenas in his prime was a legit top 10-15 player in the league. I don't think Jerry Stackhouse was ever that good in his prime. Not to mention the fact that Arenas was more efficient than Stackhouse and that is saying something. I would have to go with Arenas for this comparison.

FKAri
01-02-2012, 03:45 PM
Stackhouse. He proved over the years that he could thrive in different environments. Arenas did not. I have my doubts if prime Arenas would be as good in a different situation.

k-vil
01-02-2012, 03:48 PM
I'll take Jerry Stackhouse, Arenas was a better scorer though!

L.Kizzle
01-02-2012, 04:15 PM
Stackhouse. He proved over the years that he could thrive in different environments. Arenas did not. I have my doubts if prime Arenas would be as good in a different situation.
It says prime not career. Look at the Pistons and Wiazards when Jerry left. Pistons became a power in the east after the RIP trade. Wizars became playoff regulars after Jerry left andwas replaced by Arenas. Stackhouse couldn't even make an All-NBA team when he avg 29 ppg, Arenas was a 3 time All-NBA player. Out of the late 90s and early 2000s all star SG's, Stackhouse is the last guy I want. Behind of course Kobe, AI, Vince, T-Mac, PP and Ray. But also I'd take Houston, Finley, Sprewell and Eddie Jones over him. With Arenas its not 10 guards you'd take over him circa 2004-2008.

Vman23
01-02-2012, 04:20 PM
Umm, is this serious?

You guys realize that prime Arenas is 29ppg/6 assists/4 rebounds on 45% fg, 37% 3pt fg, All-NBA 2nd team, popular enough to START at the All-Star guard spot over Vince Carter, on the cover of NBA Live 08 when Live was still the #1 basketball game, all while leading a playoff team and hitting game winning shot after game winning shot.

Stackhouse made the All-Star team once, a fringe All-Star during his prime.

It's literally two different levels of a player.

Cali Syndicate
01-02-2012, 04:28 PM
Arenas all day.

The Macho Man
01-02-2012, 04:30 PM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvonsports.com/media/2010/01/gilbert_arenas_suspended2.jpg

ElBronco
01-02-2012, 04:40 PM
Nah I would go with Stackhouse. Bigger, tougher, goes to the rim harder and a former scoring champ.

HylianNightmare
01-02-2012, 04:54 PM
Arenas

inclinerator
01-02-2012, 05:03 PM
gilbo

Glide2keva
01-02-2012, 06:24 PM
They had primes?

bwink23
01-02-2012, 07:22 PM
They had primes?


That's what i was thinking...Maybe he means they both averaged around 30 one year...if one year makes a prime, i guess i'm going with Arenas.

JerrySteakhouse
01-02-2012, 08:17 PM
I'd go with Arenas but he only had a couple of REAL good seasons.

Rose
01-02-2012, 08:19 PM
I'd go with Arenas but he only had a couple of REAL good seasons.
This.

ChrisKreager
02-17-2012, 03:38 AM
Arenas.

Stackhouse was very good at times, but he never gave you that feeling of 'yikes.'

Arenas had a boatload of 'OMG, he's en fuego' moments: dropping 60 on Kobe, 54 on the Suns, buzzer-beaters galore (including when he made one against Utah and turned around).

There were games before he got hurt when Arenas was flat-out scary.

DaHeezy
02-17-2012, 03:42 AM
They are both black holes. Stackhouse was more of one. From what I can recall Stackhouse had one move and couldn't go left. So I'd say Arenas was the better scorer. But Stackhouse was fairly unstoppable with that one move

Collie
02-17-2012, 03:51 AM
Stackhouse was hella overrated. Definition of good stats on a bad team. Amazingly inefficient. The year he averaged 30, he shot 40(!)% from the field and averaged 40 mpg.

Arenas wasn't much better, but he at least was the best player on a playoff team, and was fairly efficient (aboe 55% TS) for his prime. Decent passer as well.

The_Yearning
02-17-2012, 04:14 AM
Stackhouse isn't overrated... he is rated correctly.

Arenas however, is damn overrated.

Choking against LBJ, letting the biggest choker in the NBA punking you at the free throw line in a must win NBA playoff game?

C'mon son.

hennigplex
02-17-2012, 08:54 AM
Stack.

http://youtu.be/iQ2GVnJQ7QA

jbryan1984
02-17-2012, 08:58 AM
In terms of consistent scoring over the years, it is Stack. But as far as being a prime superstar, it was Arenas, even if it was only for a few years. People forget that Arenas was once a top 10 player, imo at least. Stack never was.

Solid Snake
02-17-2012, 09:15 AM
Umm, is this serious?

You guys realize that prime Arenas is 29ppg/6 assists/4 rebounds on 45% fg, 37% 3pt fg, All-NBA 2nd team, popular enough to START at the All-Star guard spot over Vince Carter, on the cover of NBA Live 08 when Live was still the #1 basketball game, all while leading a playoff team and hitting game winning shot after game winning shot.

Stackhouse made the All-Star team once, a fringe All-Star during his prime.

It's literally two different levels of a player.

Live hasn't been the number 1 basketball game since 2001 you dumb ****.

Real Men Wear Green
02-17-2012, 09:16 AM
Nah I would go with Stackhouse. Bigger, tougher, goes to the rim harder and a former scoring champ.
He was #2 in scoring average, never higher, and he shot 40% on a terrible team. I have a psychological injunction against saying anything positive about Arenas but Stack wasn't a truly great scorer.

ralph_i_el
02-17-2012, 10:32 AM
Hibatchi

actually got my #0 jersey on today:cheers:

SilkkTheShocker
02-17-2012, 10:38 AM
Give me Jerry. Arenas had the better prime, but Jerry was a better defender, more durable, and could come off the bench.

Nash-tastic
02-17-2012, 10:42 AM
Gilbert Arenas.

But damn Stackhouse was unstoppable on the fast break

Whoah10115
02-17-2012, 02:52 PM
Arenas was an overrated chucker.



But Jerry Stackhouse made a living out of scoring a lot of points on 2% shooting, on bad teams. Gilbert Arenas did step up in big moments, was the best player on a playoff team. And to be fair to him, if the coach has anything resembling testicles, he would have made him play the 2 and gotten some kind of PG.



Seriously, isn't Arenas like 6'4? Well built and not overly quick. Why was he playing the point? To have more license to shoot like an idiot, I guess.

blablabla
02-17-2012, 02:54 PM
agent zero

Lebron23
02-15-2014, 12:43 AM
Gilbert was the better playoffs performer.

JohnFreeman
02-15-2014, 12:44 AM
Agent Zero. I miss him :(

Droid101
02-15-2014, 12:47 AM
So, that's what this forum has come to then? A bunch of teenagers who didn't watch either of these guys play?

Arenas by a mile. If his career wasn't cut short by injury he'd STILL be putting up 27+ points per game.

JohnFreeman
02-15-2014, 12:51 AM
So, that's what this forum has come to then? A bunch of teenagers who didn't watch either of these guys play?

Arenas by a mile. If his career wasn't cut short by injury he'd STILL be putting up 27+ points per game.
:applause:

Lebron23
02-15-2014, 01:11 AM
I am not really a fan of low efficient scorers like Jerry Stackhouse who once averaged over 29 ppg on 41 FG%. I remember using him in NBA live 2002. (Superstars mode). Dude's missing some easy layup and mid range jumpers. I was fooled by his high scoring, but less efficient numbers.

Xiao Yao You
02-15-2014, 09:20 AM
Arenas. Not close.

JohnFreeman
02-15-2014, 09:21 AM
I am not really a fan of low efficient scorers like Jerry Stackhouse who once averaged over 29 ppg on 41 FG%. I remember using him in NBA live 2002. (Superstars mode). Dude's missing some easy layup and mid range jumpers. I was fooled by his high scoring, but less efficient numbers.
You are judging a guys career off a video game?

Lebron23
02-16-2014, 07:26 PM
You are judging a guys career off a video game?


Poor shoot selection doesn't translate to winning. I was fooled by his high scoring numbers, but low efficient FG's %.

Milbuck
02-16-2014, 07:29 PM
Stackhouse played for Milwaukee. That's not something you can just sweep under the rug.

Black and White
02-16-2014, 07:39 PM
Give me Agent Zero, one of my favourite players

WWRWestbrookDo?
02-16-2014, 08:59 PM
Agent Zero. Dude was so clutch.. Just a little off and got injured.