What PG could the Lakers get for Pau Gasol?

[BGriffin's Dad]

Hypothetically.. if the Lakers decided to pursue a good point guard to pair up with Kobe and Bynum, and they were willing to part with Gasol + filler + picks... who could they realistically get in a trade? Westbrook?

[KOBEtherealKing]

Hinrich
Deron
:roll:

[LoPro4u2c]

Lol @ Lakers getting Westbrook. Kobe would be furious if Lakers got Westbrook. Did you see Westbrook hog those balls at them playoff games in the 4th quarter? Imagine him doing that in a Lakers uniform with Kobe still with the team :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[JohnnyWall]

Devin Harris, Steve Nash, Stephen Curry, John Wall, Tyreke Evans or Russell Westbrook probably.

Deron Williams might be possible but unlikely.

[DirtySanchez]

U guys understand Pau helps makes things easier for Bynum right?

That being said I want Deron.

[RazorBaLade]

theres a billion awesome trades but i really dont think mitch is trying to move anyone

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Hypothetically.. if the Lakers decided to pursue a good point guard to pair up with Kobe and Bynum, and they were willing to part with Gasol + filler + picks... who could they realistically get in a trade? Westbrook?

lol...anything that gets FISH to the bench

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Devin Harris, Steve Nash, Stephen Curry or Russell Westbrook probably.

Deron Williams might be possible but unlikely.

lol...stephen ankle broken curry

[Mr. Jabbar]

Lol @ Lakers getting Westbrook. Kobe would be furious if Lakers got Westbrook. Did you see Westbrook hog those balls at them playoff games in the 4th quarter? Imagine him doing that in a Lakers uniform with Kobe still with the team :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Westbrick showed the IQ of an invertebrate last post season, much like shannon brown.

[Nick Young]

DERON WILLIAMS:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[talkingconch]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/media/act_deron_williams.jpg

[widowmaker]

Brandon Jennings.

Gives the Bucks a Gasol and Bogut frontcourt.

[nba_55]

Why would Nets trade Deron for Pau?

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

can someone tell me why i can't create a thread?

maybe cause you only have 10 posts

[Xiao Yao You]

Devin Harris

And you can have Jefferson and Bell too!

[rhythmic]

DERON WILLIAMS:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

If NJ does not get Howard (say LA trades Bynum) and Deron states he does not want to stay in Brooklyn for next season; and actually asks to be traded to LAL. They could potentially work our a three-team deal that will land Deron if NJ are serious about a fire-sale.

Gasol, EBanks + picks could be the centerpiece of the trade; and LA could trade in their TE for another NJ player to free cap for them as another piece of incentive. Howard/Deron/Bryant would be too sick though and unfortunately is only a pipe-dream.

[Lebron23]

how many posts before i can create threads?


300 posts

[JohnnyWall]

Why would Nets trade Deron for Pau?

To attract Dwight Howard.

Gasol locked up in a contract would be more appealing to Dwight than Deron, who will probably split in the 2012 FA. Gasol & Dwight = incredible front-court in NJ.

[nba_55]

To attract Dwight Howard.

Gasol locked up in a contract would be more appealing to Dwight than Deron, who will probably split in the 2012 FA. Gasol & Dwight = incredible front-court in NJ.

Hahahaha...

I hope you are not serious.

[LoPro4u2c]

Kobe stans being delusional as always.

[rhythmic]

300 posts

I think 100 actually. I created posts for a while now and just recently reached the 300 post count.

[talkingconch]

To attract Dwight Howard.

Gasol locked up in a contract would be more appealing to Dwight than Deron, who will probably split in the 2012 FA. Gasol & Dwight = incredible front-court in NJ.

:roll:

you mean to attract him to the Lakers

[KBryant24]

Why would Nets trade Deron for Pau?
cuz they are the worst team in the league and are going to lose him in the offseason getting nothing in return

[KBryant24]

And you can have Jefferson and Bell too!
how about pau for millsap and harris?

[rhythmic]

I think Howard for Bynum makes our team better for two obvious reasons:

1) Dwight's mobility, athleticism & size will improve our defense.
2) Gasol will be the go-to-guy offensively for us.

It still leaves us vulnerable at the PG, and our perimeter defense is still crap.
With Howard, a half decent passing PG who is quick is all we really need to seriously contend though. At this point, we might need to make a move for Howard if we can using Bynum as the trade bait. I think Dwight fits with Pau better then Bynum, Drew at this point is just focusing on proving himself to the league (possibly for contract purposes). I think a change is necessary.

Howard, Gasol, Barnes, Bryant, Blake
McRoberts, Murphy, Fisher, Ebanks, Kapono, Artest etc.

On paper that trio looks dangerous but their prowess will still offset due to our terrible PG's, weak bench and poor perimeter defense.

Oh Odom where art thou?

[Kobr]

Steps to Setting Up the Lakers for the Future


Trade the prime & healthy Bynum for Dwight
Trade Gasol for LaMarcus Aldridge & Gerald Wallace
Attract DWill in free agency
???
Profit with DWill/Kobe/Wallace/Aldridge/Dwight


j/k!!!!

[hops and stops]

Trade Gasol for LaMarcus Aldridge & Gerald Wallace

http://i.imgur.com/lCISI.jpg


Attract DWill in free agency

http://i.imgur.com/mZiS4.jpg


DWill/Kobe/Wallace/Aldridge/Dwight

http://i.imgur.com/moyGW.jpg

[cuad]

Kings will give them Jimmer Fredette ONLY if Pau starts using goggles when he plays

[LoPro4u2c]

Steps to Setting Up the Lakers for the Future


Trade the prime & healthy Bynum for Dwight
Trade Gasol for LaMarcus Aldridge & Gerald Wallace
Attract DWill in free agency
???
Profit with DWill/Kobe/Wallace/Aldridge/Dwight


j/k!!!!

The Lakers will still be over the cap and won't have enough money to sign Deron Williams. Plus, Blazers are not trading wallace and definitely not trading Aldridge for gasol.

[RazorBaLade]

honestly i dont want to give up pau. if i had a magic ball and bynum stayed healthy this year i wouldnt want to give him either even tho howard is probably better.

i want one thing.

Use the trade exception we gave odom away for to sign a pg.

I don't know why thats so hard. Pretty much every PG in the league is better than what we have (seriously, name 3 people worse than fisher and blake, I dare you) and the TPE is not something to scoff at with being like 8.7 mil. WHY IS THIS NOT HAPPENING? WHY have we not used it for a pg? There is no excuse for mitch blowing this.

[LoPro4u2c]

Better idea.

What would the Lakers look like with D12 and Love then with Bynum and Gasol?

[KBryant24]

honestly i dont want to give up pau. if i had a magic ball and bynum stayed healthy this year i wouldnt want to give him either even tho howard is probably better.

i want one thing.

Use the trade exception we gave odom away for to sign a pg.

I don't know why thats so hard. Pretty much every PG in the league is better than what we have (seriously, name 3 people worse than fisher and blake, I dare you) and the TPE is not something to scoff at with being like 8.7 mil. WHY IS THIS NOT HAPPENING? WHY have we not used it for a pg? There is no excuse for mitch blowing this.
dj augustin!!!!!
go get him mitch!

[RazorBaLade]

dj augustin!!!!!
go get him mitch!

****in anybody! Put all pgs into a hat, pull one out at random. Lakers are contenders if we add that guy!!!!

sigh.

[BankShot]

Devin Harris, Steve Nash, Stephen Curry, John Wall, Tyreke Evans or Russell Westbrook probably.

Deron Williams might be possible but unlikely.

The Wizards absolutely would not trade John Wall for Pau Gasol :facepalm

Why would a rebuilding franchise trade a possible All-NBA 20-year-old point guard for a 30+ year old PF/C owed $55+ million over the next three years??

Are they trying to recreate the playoff-winless Grizzlies of 5 years ago?? :rolleyes:

[BankShot]

Better idea.

What would the Lakers look like with D12 and Love then with Bynum and Gasol?

Better idea:

The up-and-coming and rebuilding Wolves don't trade for a 30+ year old PF/C owed $55+ million over the next three years, avoiding late-lottery/first-round-exit purgatory for three years.

:rolleyes:

[InspiredLebowski]

but...but...Darius Morris!

[BankShot]

but...but...Darius Morris!

Morris/McRoberts >>>> any bench duo in the league :rockon:

They'd be starters/6th-men on 96.67% of teams in the NBA

[LoPro4u2c]

Better idea:

The up-and-coming and rebuilding Wolves don't trade for a 30+ year old PF/C owed $55+ million over the next three years, avoiding late-lottery/first-round-exit purgatory for three years.

:rolleyes:

I wasn't suggesting a gasol for love trade, rather a bynum-gasol for howard trade and getting love from free agency. The question is would Love take a 5 year $45 million offer from the Lakers(Lakers $8.9 million TPE) next season or will the Wolves match that come free agency? Would Love leave the Wolves to play with Howard and Kobe or would he stay? Thats why I put out what would the Lakers look like with Love and Howard then with Bynum and Gasol post.

[rhythmic]

but...but...Darius Morris!

I don't get why they aren't giving Morris some minutes. What do we have to loss at this point? Fisher/Blake are old, they aren't what we need to contend.

Might as well try-out Morris.

[BankShot]

I wasn't suggesting a gasol for love trade, rather a bynum-gasol for howard trade and getting love from free agency. The question is would Love take a 5 year $45 million offer from the Lakers(Lakers $8.9 million TPE) next season or will the Wolves match that come free agency? Would Love leave the Wolves to play with Howard and Kobe or would he stay? Thats why I put out what would the Lakers look like with Love and Howard then with Bynum and Gasol post.

Where does LA get all this capspace from???

And yes, the Wolves absolutely match ANYTHING less than a max contract... and quite possibly would consider matching a max

[LoPro4u2c]

Where does LA get all this capspace from???

And yes, the Wolves absolutely match ANYTHING less than a max contract... and quite possibly would consider matching a max

the $8.9 million TPE from the Lakers if they can still use it. Also, how cheap is Kahn? Also forgot that Love is an L.A. guy.

[BankShot]

Where does LA get all this capspace from???

And yes, the Wolves absolutely match ANYTHING less than a max contract... and quite possibly would consider matching a max

If they amnesty Artest AND Walton retires AND they get an injury/retirement provision.... they'd still have $35 million tied up in Kobe/Blake/Fisher... plus at least $16 million in Howard.... and another $4 million in minimum-player-cap-holds.....

Leaving them with, at a very generous max, of maybe $5 million per year to sign Love.

Yeah. The Wolves would match $5 million per year on Love. :roll:

[BankShot]

the $8.9 million TPE from the Lakers if they can still use it. Also, how cheap is Kahn? Also forgot that Love is an L.A. guy.

Thats a trade exemption... not a free pass to use in free agency :facepalm

So you're implying that instead of signing on of their cornerstones for $9 million per year.... they'd do a sign and trade for nothing to the Lakers??

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[BankShot]

the $8.9 million TPE from the Lakers if they can still use it. Also, how cheap is Kahn? Also forgot that Love is an L.A. guy.

He grew up in Portland, Oregon, and spent ONE YEAR at UCLA :roll:

That means nothing in terms of restricted free agency... and quite frankly I've heard from local media that he's a money guy, so signing for less-than-market value in LA is contrary to what is apprently important to him.

[KBryant24]

man i would love for them to go after jrue holiday! bring him back home.... it would prob take a lot to get him from philly though

[LoPro4u2c]

So you're saying the Lakers basically traded Odom away for nothing? That $8.9 million can't be used at all? My bad, I was just keeping my Lakers hope up. Damn, didn't know my Lakers was fucced up this badly. I'll admit my fucc up on this. You got me Bankshot. Just pissed that Lakers looked like the old 2008,2009,2010,2011(before playoffs)Lakers today in the first quarter then when the game went on, they lost.

[rhythmic]

man i would love for them to go after jrue holiday! bring him back home.... it would prob take a lot to get him from philly though

That would be massive. Iggy & Holiday for Gasol would be exactly what the doctor ordered. I just don't see Philly accepting anyone other then Bynum.

[LoPro4u2c]

ITT, Bankshot pwned my ass. Props.

[BankShot]

So you're saying the Lakers basically traded Odom away for nothing? That $8.9 million can't be used at all? My bad, I was just keeping my Lakers hope up. Damn, didn't know my Lakers was fucced up this badly. I'll admit my fucc up on this. You got me Bankshot. Just pissed that Lakers looked like the old 2008,2009,2010,2011(before playoffs)Lakers today in the first quarter then when the game went on, they lost.

There seemed to be a lot of smaller factors for trading Odom.... some claimed it was financial (stricter luxury tax penalties with the new CBA), and others claimed he was extremely insulted and pouty with the trade for Chris Paul.

Either way, that trade exception can be used to acquire a player with a contract of up to $8.9 million without the other team needing to take back a relatively equal-sized contract in return.

[BankShot]

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[KBryant24]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[BankShot]

no way we get iggy and jrue.... i would be surprised if we could even get jrue...
maybe a pau/1st rounder for jrue/taking elton and his huge contract

Considering what the 76ers are rebuilding towards, the offer would have to be Bynum for Jrue/Elton

It just doesn't make sense to trade for Gasol :confusedshrug:

[KBryant24]

Considering what the 76ers are rebuilding towards, the offer would have to be Bynum for Jrue/Elton

It just doesn't make sense to trade for Gasol :confusedshrug:
Gasol would be a HUGE upgrade over brand though... but i still doubt philly would part ways with jrue

[rhythmic]

Considering what the 76ers are rebuilding towards, the offer would have to be Bynum for Jrue/Elton

It just doesn't make sense to trade for Gasol :confusedshrug:

Wait since when does Jrue have strawberry flavored nipples?
You guys are acting this is some superstar. :rolleyes:

Philly have shown interest in getting rid of Iggy; the main reason I don't see them taking Pau is because of his age and giant contract; not because of discrepancy in talent. Every team would trade Jrue/Iggy for a 25 year old Gasol with a large contract.

I just get the sense that you guys are overvaluing Jrue a little.

[BankShot]

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[BankShot]

Gasol would be a HUGE upgrade over brand though... but i still doubt philly would part ways with jrue

He absolutely would be an upgrade.... but is that upgrade worth the obvious downgrade (on offense and more importantly defense) that would happen with Louis Williams, or a newly signed cheap veteran, running the show in Philly?

[Rowe]

I'm not overvaluing Jrue... I'm just considering if a rebuilding team, with financial flexibility, like Philly would really want to acquire a 30+ year old bigman who is owed $55+ million over the next 3 years, while giving up their obvious PG of the future who is still super young at 21 years old.

To me, it just doesn't make sense to make that deal to at best be at an Atlanta-level purgatory for the next 3 years. :confusedshrug:

Agreed.

Definetly, Philly wouldn't part with Jrue.

However Brand + Turner would be hard for them to turn down.

[KBryant24]

He absolutely would be an upgrade.... but is that upgrade worth the obvious downgrade (on offense and more importantly defense) that would happen with Louis Williams, or a newly signed cheap veteran, running the show in Philly?
look at the second part of my post.... i said i dont think they would do it

[BankShot]

Agreed.

Definetly, Philly wouldn't part with Jrue.

However Brand + Turner would be hard for them to turn down.

Thats an entirely different scenario all-together.... but I'd be hesitant to think the Lakers would be interested in giving up a top-flight big man for a backup to their best player.

[rhythmic]

I'm not overvaluing Jrue... I'm just considering if a rebuilding team, with financial flexibility, like Philly would really want to acquire a 30+ year old bigman who is owed $55+ million over the next 3 years, while giving up their obvious PG of the future who is still super young at 21 years old.

To me, it just doesn't make sense to make that deal to at best be at an Atlanta-level purgatory for the next 3 years. :confusedshrug:

Yeah completely agreed.
It isn't a good trade (for Philly) for financial reasons and the obvious age difference.

[KBryant24]

jrue is a PG with potential. No rebuilding team trades a young guy with talent for a aging PF.

[BankShot]

look at the second part of my post.... i said i dont think they would do it

Yeah I saw that... I wasn't disagreeing with you. :confusedshrug:

I was elaborating on your post with my own thoughts on why they wouldn't be interested

[rhythmic]

Thats an entirely different scenario all-together.... but I'd be hesitant to think the Lakers would be interested in giving up a top-flight big man for a backup to their best player.

I don't see LA giving up Gasol without getting back Iggy/Brand at the least and Iggy/Young or Jrue at the most.

Nothing else Philly has I'd want.

[BankShot]

[QUOTE=rhythmic

[KBryant24]

Yeah I saw that... I wasn't disagreeing with you. :confusedshrug:

I was elaborating on your post with my own thoughts on why they wouldn't be interested
alright my bad,
all being said i wish LA could land jrue somehow. He is going to be a beast in a few years. Especially if he were surrounded by talented players.

[Sakkreth]

I want em to get Westbrook for the lulz, wonder if Kobe and Westbrook would end up trying to steal ball from each other.

[BankShot]

alright my bad,
all being said i was LA could land jrue somehow. He is going to be a beast in a few years. Especially if he were surrounded by talented players.

Jrue for Bynum.... or talks will likely die... and for the record he is surrounded by talented players, and quite frankly will likely blossom more and more quickly without being a complimentary player to all-world players like Kobe or Pau

[Rowe]

Thats an entirely different scenario all-together.... but I'd be hesitant to think the Lakers would be interested in giving up a top-flight big man for a backup to their best player.
That was from Philly's end.

However, I think Turner's value/hype has dipped compared to last year when he was a centerpiece in a potential Melo deal.

[rhythmic]

... and that pretty much sums up why Philly/LAL trade talks will never reach any kind of serious level.

Neither sides have appropriately valued assets in which the other side has interest, and equally appropriate assets in return.

It's kind of refreshing to have a conversation with someone who doesn't use profanity during a disagreement.

I can just picture it now, any other day:

"You're a moron if you think Philly would give up Jrue & Iggy; stupid Laker homer." :oldlol:

[rhythmic]

Jrue for Bynum.... or talks will likely die... and for the record he is surrounded by talented players, and quite frankly will likely blossom more and more quickly without being a complimentary player to all-world players like Kobe or Pau

Bynum is worth so much more; I hope you were being sarcastic.
Jrue & Young or Jrue, Iggy & Brand and LA might consider.

[BankShot]

That was from Philly's end.

However, I think Turner's value/hype has dipped compared to last year when he was a centerpiece in a potential Melo deal.

Yeah I'm aware that your offer would have had to come from Philly.... and yeah the Lakers would think about it, but ultimately would decline when they realized they'd be giving up a top-flight big for a backup to their Star.

Turner's value will steadily grow this season as he meshes better with his teammates, and gets a better handle on his role in the NBA and how he can best utilize his tools to be productive... it just takes more time for some than others

[KBryant24]

Jrue for Bynum.... or talks will likely die... and for the record he is surrounded by talented players, and quite frankly will likely blossom more and more quickly without being a complimentary player to all-world players like Kobe or Pau
yeah but if Jrue were to play with a bynum type player in a Pick and Roll situation I think he will really prove how talented he is.

and no way lakers trade bynum for anyone other than howard...or maybe a hibbert/granger lol

[BankShot]

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[BankShot]

yeah but if Jrue were to play with a bynum type player in a Pick and Roll situation I think he will really prove how talented he is.

and no way lakers trade bynum for anyone other than howard...or maybe a hibbert/granger lol

I really don't think Jrue needs to prove his talent to anyone... we're all aware at the potential he obviously exhibits.

I'm not sure Bynum is the best example of a great pick-and-roll partner, as one needs to hit the midrange pop jumper as well as rolling to the hoop and finishing.... but either way no matter what the trade, they would be the cornerstones to any swap between Philly and LA

LA won't trade Bynum unless they get back a superstar.... and Philly won't trade Jrue unless they get a home-run package in return... which means this deal simply doesn't have the legs to go anywhere anytime soon

[Seps]

I like the Jennings for Pau trade, or Jennings for Cousins.

[BankShot]

I like the Jennings for Pau trade, or Jennings for Cousins.

Skiles + Cousins = priceless entertainment :roll:

[InspiredLebowski]

I'm pretty sure Philly hangs up if the Lakers offer anything that doesn't include Bynum or Kobe (Kobe's from Philly, right???)

The 76ers already rolled the dice on a big contract for a 30+ year-old PF... and that kinda blew up in their face, so considering their youth movement and financial flexibility, I doubt they go for Gasol.Kobe's from Philly, but Philly hates the guy for whatever reason.

[nayte]

what team has a enough point guards that they can spare one to trade for gasol and still contend?
I dont see a rebuilding team trading for him.

[Xiao Yao You]

how about pau for millsap and harris?

Might have to do it but still stuck with Jefferson. Obviously Millsap makes more sense next to Bynum than Jefferson and Gasol makes more sense next to Millsap or Jefferson than they do together. Probably have to have one of LA's young pg's in the deal too. I guess Blake would make sense in Utah too.

[Kobr]

Might have to do it but still stuck with Jefferson. Obviously Millsap makes more sense next to Bynum than Jefferson and Gasol makes more sense next to Millsap or Jefferson than they do together. Probably have to have one of LA's young pg's in the deal too. I guess Blake would make sense in Utah too.

Hmm.. give up Steve Blake.. Lemme think about tha- YES!

Hopefully they'd take Metta World Peace off our hands too, somehow.

[Duncan21formvp]

Deron is only 27, no way the Nets trade him for Gasol who is 31

[kingBynum]

trade him for mo williams:oldlol:

[33teeth]

I like the Jennings for Pau trade, or Jennings for Cousins.

Pretty hard to picture Evans, Thornton and Jennings one one team. :banghead:

[L.A. Jazz]

Deron would be great. i want him bringing the ball up in crunch time because Kobe makes to many mistakes in those situations.

[KBryant24]

Pretty hard to picture Evans, Thornton and Jennings one one team. :banghead:
haha 3 chuckers on one team...not enough shots to go around

[Eric Cartman]

Pretty hard to picture Evans, Thornton and Jennings one one team. :banghead:


+ Jimmer who likes to jack up those long 3 pointers.

Easy to get a headache watching them play.

[MJ(Mean John)]

Three team deal.

We send pau to Houston
Houston sends Dallas Luis scola
Dallas sends Lamar to us
And houston sends us Kyle Lowry.



Yeeeah

[Eric Cartman]

Three team deal.

We send pau to Houston
Houston sends Dallas Luis scola
Dallas sends Lamar to us
And houston sends us Kyle Lowry.



Yeeeah


Laker fan if that happened.

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15735503/images/1311947560560.jpg

[Kobr]

Three team deal.

We send pau to Houston
Houston sends Dallas Luis scola
Dallas sends Lamar to us
And houston sends us Kyle Lowry.



Yeeeah

Lamar would probably be a shell of his former self though.

[NJW1247]

http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/15735503/images/1311947560560.jpg





......






:lol

[brownmamba00]

Would Houston do a Lowry+Scola for Pau trade?:lol