Rubio is in Trouble Guarding Derrick Rose This Tuesday [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

dude77

01-08-2012, 05:01 PM

Chicago Bulls and the T-wolves play tuesday, can we see rubio play his "good defense" on rose. LMAO this may be a joke. After game report ***Rubio out 8 months with broken ankles***

big man over here .. shitting on a promising rook to make a more established player look good .. do you like kicking puppies by any chance ?

Hernando

01-08-2012, 05:01 PM

And Irving is gonna have a better time?
Well Rubio has more hype on him, so what I have heard so far, rubio should be able to guard him.

chains5000

01-08-2012, 05:02 PM

http://buttpirates.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/3309.gif

dunksby

01-08-2012, 05:02 PM

Well Rubio has more hype on him, so what I have heard so far, rubio should be able to guard him.
I dont think even the Spanish think he is able to guard Rose.

rule1223

01-08-2012, 05:05 PM

i remember a spain vs usa game, with drose dancing around handling the ball and rubio just picks his pockets like nothing

brisbaneman

01-08-2012, 05:07 PM

Well the rubio fans think he has good defense.

what will you do when rubio locks him up? cry and make up excuses?

Yung D-Will

01-08-2012, 05:08 PM

Rubio is a good defender? Since when do you become a bad defender if you have trouble guarding the "Mvp"

LJJ

01-08-2012, 05:09 PM

Watch out for:

http://i43.tinypic.com/1z1zc3t.gif

Fatal9

01-08-2012, 05:09 PM

Rose should use this game as a learning experience on how to be a PG.

skan72

01-08-2012, 05:09 PM

http://buttpirates.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/3309.gif

:lol

Maga_1

01-08-2012, 05:11 PM

Well the rubio fans think he has good defense.

and he has ..

Maga_1

01-08-2012, 05:13 PM

This is now a :

Rubio/Irving matchup on defense thread ..

Thanks for showing your agenda :lol

rule1223

01-08-2012, 05:14 PM

we will be seeing alot of this on tuesday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCxEe1zo8I&t=4m44s

brisbaneman

01-08-2012, 05:17 PM

we will be seeing alot of this on tuesday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCxEe1zo8I&t=4m44s

THIS

Rekindled

01-08-2012, 05:19 PM

rubio did just fine against wall who is faster than rose. however rose is a lot stronger than that might be a problem

MooseJuiceBowen

01-08-2012, 05:20 PM

Rubio is a good defender but he's also a rookie. Give him.time

Rnbizzle

01-08-2012, 05:20 PM

rubio did just fine against wall who is faster than rose. however rose is a lot stronger than that might be a problem
Wall is in no way comparable to Rose right now.

Yung D-Will

01-08-2012, 05:22 PM

Wall is in no way comparable to Rose right now.
Speed Wise yes he is . But how he's playing right now in every other area it's really not close. Maybe only defensively

Rnbizzle

01-08-2012, 05:23 PM

Speed Wise yes he is . But how he's playing right now in every other area it's really not close. Maybe only defensively
Yeah I get the speed thing, but saying Rubio will be fine because he did alright against Wall today is kinda naive.

LA_Showtime

01-08-2012, 05:26 PM

Making teammates better, having great court vision, highlight reel = guarding Derrick Rose. Okay. :oldlol:

GOBB

01-08-2012, 05:27 PM

Well the rubio fans think he has good defense.

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Whoah10115

01-08-2012, 05:29 PM

Pretty useful thread.

Yung D-Will

01-08-2012, 05:29 PM

Yeah I get the speed thing, but saying Rubio will be fine because he did alright against Wall today is kinda naive.
Yea pretty much. Especilly this Wall who's playing.. like well....I don't even know

Rnbizzle

01-08-2012, 05:31 PM

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I'm a believer, put me on there. (Not saying he can guard Rose, but who can..)
I think Rubio is a decent defender for a rookie right now, and he can become a pretty solid defender for the rest of his career.

Zenji

01-08-2012, 05:33 PM

Such a transparent thread. Rubio will win the ROTY, deal with it.

imdaman99

01-08-2012, 05:58 PM

rubio is having more an effect on his team than irving is thats for sure

maybe its the hype

Alan

01-08-2012, 06:13 PM

Could anyone give me some numbers which in your opinion would mean that Rubio played good defense on rose? Under 20 points? FG% under 45%? 4+ TO?

Pointguard

01-08-2012, 06:59 PM

we will be seeing alot of this on tuesday

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCxEe1zo8I&t=4m44s

I think that was the energy behind the MVP. But if I were Thibes I would show Rose this video. In a season like this you need different motivations. I don't expect Rubio to get a lot of sleeping defense assist so his night is made out for him.

But Rubio looks like an assist machine and seemingly will come around.

SpecialQue

01-08-2012, 07:03 PM

I predict...a fun game.

Xover

01-08-2012, 07:14 PM

rubio just got 13 points and 14 assists adding 6 rebounds + a block going against the wizards and john wall

Dictator

01-08-2012, 07:20 PM

Watch out for:

http://i43.tinypic.com/1z1zc3t.gif

:rolleyes: might be the other way around

FireDavidKahn

01-08-2012, 07:23 PM

No one can guard Rose.

obonpaxis

01-08-2012, 07:27 PM

I expected he'd make it eventually in the NBA but I didn't think he'd be this efficient as a rookie.

I wish I could see more Minnesota games.

B-Easy8

01-08-2012, 11:19 PM

Name me one defender who doesn't have trouble guarding Rose.

Euroleague

01-08-2012, 11:24 PM

and he has ..

Yes, but mainly with the hand check being allowed in Europe and FIBA.

In the NBA, with no hand check and no real zone D allowed, he isn't. And neither is any other perimeter player in the entire NBA, due to the NBA rules.

chips93

01-08-2012, 11:33 PM

Chicago Bulls and the T-wolves play tuesday, can we see rubio play his "good defense" on rose. LMAO this may be a joke. After game report ***Rubio out 8 months with broken ankles***

dude, you gotta lose the hate for rubio.

so what that rubio gets more hype than irving, who cares. both guys are good, promising young pgs.

just because people like rubio, doesnt mean that irving sucks

there arent really any troll cavs fans on this board, please, dont become the first.

04mzwach

01-08-2012, 11:38 PM

Rose is going to have trouble defending Rubio too probably. It's hard to stop his sweet passes.

nathanjizzle

01-08-2012, 11:41 PM

get off roses jock.

JtotheIzzo

01-09-2012, 12:11 AM

Chicago Bulls and the T-wolves play tuesday, can we see rubio play his "good defense" on rose. LMAO this may be a joke. After game report ***Rubio out 8 months with broken ankles***

yeah, because everyone else has shut down Rose this season.

MK2V1GP

01-09-2012, 12:13 AM

I would say the T'wolves would win and Rubio would go for 10+ assists again if it wasn't Minnesota's 3rd game in 3 days.

juju151111

01-09-2012, 01:24 AM

Rose should use this game as a learning experience on how to be a PG.
That's funny, because Rose is the best PG in the league.

imdaman99

01-09-2012, 02:01 AM

Name me one defender who doesn't have trouble guarding Rose.
i dont know man... lebron?

Meticode

01-09-2012, 02:02 AM

everyone it is in big trouble guarding Rose period.
Yea well, you have trouble guarding your face.

rfoster24

01-09-2012, 02:15 AM

Such a transparent thread. Rubio will win the ROTY, deal with it.

This post brings up an important reminder. When making predictions, we should use our brains first.

spacebump

01-09-2012, 06:08 AM

Name me one defender who doesn't have trouble guarding Rose.

LeBron shut him down in the ECF...it was bad.

Clutch

01-09-2012, 06:17 AM

I don't say he will but what if Rubio hold Rose to let's say 15 points on 4-13 shooting while Rubio has 12 points and 10 assists ?

arifgokcen

01-09-2012, 06:40 AM

Yeah lebron shut him down so bad that his percentage against lebron was around 15%. This is why miami actually won the game.During crunch time they couldnt score a point,because lebron was on rose.

OmniStrife

01-09-2012, 06:40 AM

Only LeBron can guard Rose.
Also it's Rose who's in trouble if he lets Ricky dish them nasty passes.

BarberSchool

01-09-2012, 11:34 AM

Rubio's feet on defense aren't top tier by NBA standards, but his hands are.

I'll LMAO if he picks Rose's pocket a few times and finishes with like 5 steals.

Tenchi Ryu

01-09-2012, 11:59 AM

:no: :no: :no: :no:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4GQKEHMAyY

Lebron can barely guard Rose as well. The reason his defense was so effective was because Rose was forced to jump shoot more because of basically the ENTIRE heat squad closing his driving lane space. Everybody was LITERALLY able to keep majority of their attention on Rose all because of other teammates not dropping shots. This means that Lebron had to now only guard him as a jump shooter, and a 6'3 PG being guarded by a tall bulky 6'8 SF is gonna cause problems regardless.

And some of you are giving Lebron too much credit...Haslem was right there to help lebron once he came back...effectively double teaming Rose every time.

Go Getter

01-09-2012, 12:00 PM

get off roses jock.
says the guy with Rose in his avatar.:facepalm

Tenchi Ryu

01-09-2012, 12:03 PM

says the guy with Rose in his avatar.:facepalm
I thought he was talking to the Rose HATERS

nathanjizzle

01-09-2012, 12:06 PM

I thought he was talking to the Rose HATERS

i was talking to the rose nut huggers. Too much rose nutt huggin in this thread even for me.

Rnbizzle

01-09-2012, 12:10 PM

i was talking to the rose nut huggers. Too much rose nutt huggin in this thread even for me.
I don't get you, people are crediting the player you like because he's hard to guard and you're gonna hate on them..?

nathanjizzle

01-09-2012, 12:13 PM

I don't get you, people are crediting the player you like because he's hard to guard and you're gonna hate on them..?

all i said was to get off roses jock :confusedshrug:

nathanjizzle

01-09-2012, 12:17 PM

Watch out for:

http://i43.tinypic.com/1z1zc3t.gif

this guy didnt break his ankles....he dislocated every joint in his legs.

sodap

01-10-2012, 11:37 PM

I'll LMAO if he picks Rose's pocket a few times and finishes with like 5 steals.

discuss

Glide2keva

01-10-2012, 11:47 PM

discuss
31 pts 11 ast 3 rebounds 55% shooting 50% 3pt and the WIN

chips93

01-10-2012, 11:58 PM

discuss

did rubio pick rose?

ballinhun8

01-11-2012, 12:01 AM

31 pts 11 ast 3 rebounds 55% shooting 50% 3pt and the WIN

Chill man. This aint necessary.

Both these guys played great. Rubio is an obvious difference maker when he is on thr court. Rubio is just a rook, what else can you expect.

Rhinox

01-11-2012, 12:10 AM

Calling Rubio just a rookie is just dumb.

Guy has played overseas with adult men since he was 16.

Xsatyr

01-11-2012, 12:15 AM

hmm...

TaLvsCuaL

01-11-2012, 12:18 AM

Calling Rubio just a rookie is just dumb.

Guy has played overseas with adult men since he was 14.

So all players with experience in European leagues are not rookies?

It is interesting, but it seems that you only say that to belittle the great work he is doing.

Jonelo

01-11-2012, 12:25 AM

31 pts 11 ast 3 rebounds 55% shooting 50% 3pt and the WIN

But no agains Rubio . :lol . Rubio win , MVP :lol

Rose 16/10 with 4/13 shots with Rubio in the floor . And Rubio 13/12 with 6/10 shots with Rose in the floor ..., can see in the Play by Play .

http://www.nba.com/games/20120110/CHIMIN/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0021100138#nbaGIPlay

Rhinox

01-11-2012, 12:47 AM

So all players with experience in European leagues are not rookies?

It is interesting, but it seems that you only say that to belittle the great work he is doing.

Pro Basketball in Euro >>>>>>>>>> Amatuer Basketball in College.

Rhinox

01-11-2012, 12:49 AM

But no agains Rubio . :lol . Rubio win , MVP :lol

Rose 16/10 with 4/13 shots with Rubio in the floor . And Rubio 13/12 with 6/10 shots with Rose in the floor ..., can see in the Play by Play .

http://www.nba.com/games/20120110/CHIMIN/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0021100138#nbaGIPlay

umm.. DRose had 14 points in the fourth Qtr alone. Rubio played the entire 4th Qtr.

P.S.

Drose was on Luke and JJ most of the game.

rfoster24

01-11-2012, 12:51 AM

Calling Rubio just a rookie is just dumb.

Guy has played overseas with adult men since he was 16.

Duh, guys. Obviously, when coming over from playing basketball in Europe, there is absolutely no adjustment that the foreign player has to make. He'll be as good as he is going to be in the NBA his 1st season there.

who's going to be the first idiot to respond to me, thinking I was being serious?

Rhinox

01-11-2012, 12:56 AM

Duh, guys. Obviously, when coming over from playing basketball in Europe, there is absolutely no adjustment that the foreign player has to make. He'll be as good as he is going to be in the NBA his 1st season there.

who's going to be the first idiot to respond to me, thinking I was being serious?

The adjustment is greater for 19 yo kids out of school who go up against men bigger and stronger then them then it is kids who have played for years against bigger and stronger competition.

This isn't rocket science.

TaLvsCuaL

01-11-2012, 12:57 AM

Pro Basketball in Euro >>>>>>>>>> Amatuer Basketball in College.
Obviously, no one denies that. But the differences between European basketball and the NBA is big enough for a player to be considered Rookie. Fields sizes, rules, tactics, way of life, physical demands, etc.

Rhinox

01-11-2012, 12:59 AM

Obviously, no one denies that. But the differences between European basketball and the NBA is big enough for a player to be considered Rookie. Fields sizes, rules, tactics, way of life, physical demands, etc.

I'm not denying hes an NBA rookie it can't be denied. My point is hes not your average rookie. Rookie in name only

nathanjizzle

01-11-2012, 01:01 AM

i knew this dumb topic would come up. How many years has rubio been playing pro ball? vs "rookies" that come out of college that has played 0 years of professional ball, but all of a sudden there in the same category now.

Maga_1

01-11-2012, 01:06 AM

31 pts 11 ast 3 rebounds 55% shooting 50% 3pt and the WIN

I think you are celebrating more this game against a 21years old Rookie than the game against Chris Paul where he was WAY WAY BETTER

Euroleague

01-11-2012, 01:08 AM

this guy didnt break his ankles....he dislocated every joint in his legs.

It was Sergio Llull.

Jonelo

01-11-2012, 05:50 AM

umm.. DRose had 14 points in the fourth Qtr alone. Rubio played the entire 4th Qtr.

P.S.

Drose was on Luke and JJ most of the game.

No, Rose had 4 points in fourth quarter with Rubio in the bench - and 11 in the first quarter ;)

Start of 4th QuarterBack to Top
11:42
[MIN 76-79] Barea Driving Layup Shot: Made (10 PTS)
Korver 3pt Shot: Made (11 PTS) Assist: Rose (8 AST) 11:34
[CHI 82-76]
11:33 Team Timeout : Regular
11:18 Love Jump Shot: Missed Block: Gibson (2 BLK)
Gibson Rebound (Off:0 Def:1) 11:16
11:01 Barea Foul: Shooting (2 PF)
Rose Free Throw 1 of 2 (18 PTS) 11:01
[CHI 83-76]
Rose Free Throw 2 of 2 (19 PTS) 11:01
[CHI 84-76]
10:48 Love Jump Shot: Missed
Deng Rebound (Off:0 Def:4) 10:46
Rose Driving Layup Shot: Made (21 PTS) 10:38
[CHI 86-76]
10:14 Barea 3pt Shot: Missed
Deng Rebound (Off:0 Def:5) 10:09
Korver Turnover : Bad Pass (2 TO) Steal:Ridnour (3 ST) 10:04
09:56
[MIN 79-86] Tolliver 3pt Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Ridnour (1 AST)
Korver Step Back Jump shot: Missed 09:32
09:31 Love Rebound (Off:3 Def:7)
09:18 Tolliver 3pt Shot: Missed
Deng Rebound (Off:0 Def:6) 09:17
Rose Layup Shot: Missed Block: Williams (1 BLK) 09:03
Team Rebound 09:03
Deng Jump Shot: Made (19 PTS) Assist: Asik (1 AST) 08:58
[CHI 88-79]
Asik Foul: Personal (3 PF) 08:50
08:39
[MIN 81-88] Ridnour Jump Shot: Made (15 PTS) Assist: Love (2 AST)
Asik Turnover : 3 Second Violation (1 TO) 08:20
08:20 Barea Substitution replaced by Rubio

Against Rubio 10 points. 3 more in the first quarter . And only 3 points on the rest of the game, in the second and third quarters with Ricky full time in the floor

Jyap9675

01-11-2012, 06:17 AM

brisbaneman

01-11-2012, 07:06 AM

Rubio pretty much held his own. He's the next generational point guard following Kidd and Nash

Glide2keva

01-11-2012, 09:45 AM

I think you are celebrating more this game against a 21years old Rookie than the game against Chris Paul where he was WAY WAY BETTER
Nah, just throwing it in people's faces. Every hot shot point guard that comes in the league, these haters want to put above Rose. Then Rose goes out and shuts it all the way down.

MontaEllis24

01-11-2012, 10:04 AM

I bet my non wanking arm that TWolves beat the overrated Bulls.
Ouch........ on the brightside least you can still wank.

TheTruth11

01-11-2012, 10:11 AM

Rubio did well guarding D-rose from what I saw. Posting stats is stupid, you have to realise that Rubio did not guard Rose all game right? Ridnour, Barea and Rubio guarded Rose throughout the whole game..

Derrick Williams had a part on wolves losing =( Rubio gave him good looks and just didnt get them in.

Rose was killing Rubio until he twisted his ankle and limped off the court. He was going where he wanted, when he wanted and nobody could stop him. Until that point, Rose was headed for a 40 point game. 14 points in the 1st quarter alone!

After Rose came back from the injury, you could tell that it effected his explosiveness as he worked to get used to the pain of the ankle and loosen it up. You could tell he was favoring the ankle. I really didn't see him get back on form athletically until the 4th quarter.

Rubio is gonna be good. This is not to take anything away from the Euro. He clearly has the potential to be a future All-star. And the League (and ESPN) already love him. But lets face it, there is only 1 Derrick Rose! Best PG in the game.... and he showed it last night. Nobody can guard DRose. Not even Lebron without help defense clogging the lane.

And oh yea, how did you like those pinpoint "bullet passes" from Rose? He was throwing those things around at about 1 hunned miles per hour. Too bad Noah was having trouble catching those and finishing.

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kurple

01-11-2012, 10:18 AM

it's not like Rose locked down Rubio either

I love both of them. Bulls are my 2nd favorite team, and Rubio is one of my favorite (non-nuggets) players.

Glide2keva

01-11-2012, 10:28 AM

This

hawksdogsbraves

01-11-2012, 10:48 AM

I didn't see much of the game outside the first quarter where D-Rose was owning and Rubio wasn't really in, but was Rose guarding Rubio too? Because if so he kind of got worked.

1rkrage

01-11-2012, 11:08 AM

I didn't see much of the game outside the first quarter where D-Rose was owning and Rubio wasn't really in, but was Rose guarding Rubio too? Because if so he kind of got worked.
Ronnie was on Rubio for most of the possesions.

ZenMaster

01-11-2012, 11:32 AM

Nah, just throwing it in people's faces. Every hot shot point guard that comes in the league, these haters want to put above Rose. Then Rose goes out and shuts it all the way down.

You make Rose sound like an 11 year veteran.

Teanett

01-11-2012, 12:10 PM

You make Rose sound like an 11 year veteran.
he's more, he's the frikkin mvp.

MASH Transit

01-11-2012, 12:19 PM

Ronnie was on Rubio for most of the possesions.

Luke got off on Rose too.

Anyways. Rubio looked great last night. Played great defense on Rose and ran his offense to nigh perfection. The Bulls were just hot last night and the Wolves weren't. It happens.

I'd pick Rubio before Rose for the next 10 years or so. Plays the position like it should be played.

Teanett

01-11-2012, 12:27 PM

i'd say he wont get in trouble guarding anybody. he's a good defender.

Tenchi Ryu

01-11-2012, 12:56 PM

Luke got off on Rose too.

Anyways. Rubio looked great last night. Played great defense on Rose and ran his offense to nigh perfection. The Bulls were just hot last night and the Wolves weren't. It happens.

I'd pick Rubio before Rose for the next 10 years or so. Plays the position like it should be played.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: