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Please Jerry come to New York and save us.
"My energy level has changed a great deal since I quit coaching," said Sloan, who is an avid walker. "It's changed a lot now. I've had time to work out. I feel better.
"I had a chance to relax, to do something that I haven't had the time to do in 30 years. That's rewarding. You have time to spend with the family and have Thanksgiving and things like that. I enjoyed all of that. But [returning to coaching] is a decision where, if somebody talked to me, I'd review the situation like anybody else and take it from there."
"I think if the right situation came along, whatever that is," he said before pausing to ponder. "I don't know what the right situation is. We'll have to wait and see, I guess."
He'll be waiting for the phone to ring again at his home in Utah, where he became the NBA's third-most winningest coach of all time (1,221-803) before abruptly stepping down last February. After 23 seasons, the job became too taxing for the longest tenured coach in league history.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/sam_amick/01/07/jerry.sloan/index.html?eref=twitter_feed
Fiasco
01-09-2012, 01:36 AM
Oh my god.
Please come to the Clippers.
PLEASE. PLEASE.
You can finish what you started! From Stockton/Malone to Griffin/Paul!
PLEASE, BABY JESUS!
airchibundo507
01-09-2012, 01:37 AM
Oh my god.
Please come to the Clippers.
PLEASE. PLEASE.
You can finish what you started! From Stockton/Malone to Griffin/Paul!
PLEASE, BABY JESUS!
lol
kidachi
01-09-2012, 01:37 AM
Oh my god.
Please come to the Clippers.
PLEASE. PLEASE.
You can finish what you started! From Stockton/Malone to Griffin/Paul!
PLEASE, BABY JESUS!
That'll be sick. I've been saying for a year now.. Griffin needs to be coached by Jerry Sloan
Derrick
01-09-2012, 01:38 AM
Fire D'antoni
Oh my god.
Please come to the Clippers.
PLEASE. PLEASE.
You can finish what you started! From Stockton/Malone to Griffin/Paul!
PLEASE, BABY JESUS!
Dont go there Jerry!
Donald Sterling wont pay you well.
LA has too much smog that will affect your health.
We're closer to competing for a title than the Clippers are.
Melo/Amare are in their primes and need a coach like you to get them to a Championship.
We dont flop.
Amare knows the Pick & Roll.
Its New York.
MeLO MvP 15
01-09-2012, 01:41 AM
I've said too many times, I don't Sloan is a good fit for this current Knicks roster. If he were to come (and he won't, he'd hate the NY media) he'd change the roster and I can't imagine him coaching both Melo and Amar'e.
StateOfMind12
01-09-2012, 01:42 AM
Sloan would honestly be perfect for the Clippers. I would be willing to fire Thibs if the Bulls could get Sloan to replace him. I like Thibs and I think he is a really good coach but Sloan is a legendary coach.
Harison
01-09-2012, 01:43 AM
Sloan is a great coach, any team would be lucky to have him.
That'll be sick. I've been saying for a year now.. Griffin needs to be coached by Jerry Sloan
Yeah, I think Sloan could really mold Griffin into something special. Definitely more so than VDN can. Blake just has so much raw potential at this point, he needs a great coach.
Fiasco
01-09-2012, 01:45 AM
Dont go there Jerry!
Donald Sterling wont pay you well.
LA has too much smog that will affect your health.
We're closer to competing for a title than the Clippers are.
Melo/Amare are in their primes and need a coach like you to get them to a Championship.
We dont flop.
Amare knows the Pick & Roll.
Its New York.
Don't go there, Jerry!
You're white, so the chances Sterling marginalizes you is close to 0%! He'll find some bullshit reason to can VDN and you can have his salary on top of your new one!
New York only has Amare and Melo, and those guys are ugly. Cosmopolitan Magazine ranks Griffin and Paul as the #1 and #5 best looking players in the NBA
Griffin is in his second year, but has the mentality of a veteran, and Chris Paul is about to hit his prime shortly. The Malone/Stockton comparisons would make you the GOAT (not the animal).
We live in Hollywood and our flopping is merely an extension of our culture. Acting at its finest!
It's Los Angeles.
I've said too many times, I don't Sloan is a good fit for this current Knicks roster. If he were to come (and he won't, he'd hate the NY media) he'd change the roster and I can't imagine him coaching both Melo and Amar'e.
Certainly not with the scrubs we have right now.
Only Knicks players guaranteed to be back next season are Melo, Amare, Chandler, Shumpert, Jorts, & Fields. That leaves 9 open spots to work with.
I'd let him build this team any way he wants if he took over.
Melo/Amare needs a coach like Sloan to push them to the next level. I
Its not like either guy has been un-coachable, but they need someone with that "edge" that Sloan has who will motivate them to play hard consistently.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 01:47 AM
We're closer to competing for a title than the Clippers are.
LOL!
If he were to come (and he won't, he'd hate the NY media) he'd change the roster and I can't imagine him coaching both Melo and Amar'e.
He'd have a bigger problem with Baron.
I would be willing to fire Thibs if the Bulls could get Sloan to replace him. I like Thibs and I think he is a really good coach but Sloan is a legendary coach.
You're crazy! No way would the Bulls be playing the D they are playing with Sloan as coach. He was still trying to play like it was the late 80's early 90's. He never adjusted to the rule changes. Just look at the Jazz this year. Playing much better D than they have since Stockton and Malone left.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 01:50 AM
That leaves 9 open spots to work with.
I'd let him build this team any way he wants if he took over.
Unfortunately they'll have very little flexibility to do anything. The money is tied up in 3 guys.
FourthTenor
01-09-2012, 01:52 AM
Coaches as a lot are lucky to be so overrated. Results in a real nice payday.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 01:55 AM
Coaches as a lot are lucky to be so overrated. Results in a real nice payday.
Yeah just look at Flip.
Clutch
01-09-2012, 01:55 AM
He should go to the Nets :lol
Fawker
01-09-2012, 01:56 AM
cp3 would thrive with him. i think he is best fit for the clipps. he is a sit down coach, channeling his plays through the pg.
Fudge
01-09-2012, 01:56 AM
Don't go there, Jerry!
You're white, so the chances Sterling marginalizes you is close to 0%! He'll find some bullshit reason to can VDN and you can have his salary on top of your new one!
New York only has Amare and Melo, and those guys are ugly. Cosmopolitan Magazine ranks Griffin and Paul as the #1 and #5 best looking players in the NBA
Griffin is in his second year, but has the mentality of a veteran, and Chris Paul is about to hit his prime shortly. The Malone/Stockton comparisons would make you the GOAT (not the animal).
We live in Hollywood and our flopping is merely an extension of our culture. Acting at its finest!
It's Los Angeles.
What do you mean "We live in Hollywood". You're from British Columbia. Just stop.
EnoughSaid
01-09-2012, 01:57 AM
I'd love for him to coach the Clippers of Knicks. Would be really fun to watch.
I think he's the last hope to change NY's defensive struggles.
Don't go there, Jerry!
You're white, so the chances Sterling marginalizes you is close to 0%! He'll find some bullshit reason to can VDN and you can have his salary on top of your new one!
New York only has Amare and Melo, and those guys are ugly. Cosmopolitan Magazine ranks Griffin and Paul as the #1 and #5 best looking players in the NBA
Griffin is in his second year, but has the mentality of a veteran, and Chris Paul is about to hit his prime shortly. The Malone/Stockton comparisons would make you the GOAT (not the animal).
We live in Hollywood and our flopping is merely an extension of our culture. Acting at its finest!
It's Los Angeles.
Jerry dont listen to him, LA is not for you!
You'll be coaching the 2nd most popular NBA team in the city, and the media wont respect your greatness by coaching the Clippers.
The Clippers dont even have their own home locker room, they change in the janitoral closet. Do you really want to coach in a dark closet? Do you?
CP3's got a bad knee & Blake already had a knee injury. You dont need anymore guys in suits on your bench.
Our owner is stupid but not cheap. He'll give you power to sign/draft as many White players you need to fit your system as you did in Utah.
You & your wife can finally see the Lion King & Jersey Boys on Broadway!
Spike Lee will do a movie about your career, with Christian Bale starring as you. You ever won an Oscar? Huh? Exactly.
NY > LA
Fiasco
01-09-2012, 01:59 AM
What do you mean "We live in Hollywood". You're from British Columbia. Just stop.
"We" as in the team.
Clippersfan86
01-09-2012, 02:00 AM
Odd to see a Knicks fan bagging on the Clippers despite the Knicks being the worse team. Thrn again it's Rowe.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 02:00 AM
I think he's the last hope to change NY's defensive struggles.
Sloan? You sure you don't mean Van Gundy?
NY > LA
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Odd to see a Knicks fan bagging on the Clippers despite the Knicks being the worse team. Thrn again it's Rowe.
Clippers: 4-2
Knicks: 4-4
Dont get too excited, You'll be 4-5 by the start of next week.
Clippersfan86
01-09-2012, 02:09 AM
Clippers: 4-2
Knicks: 4-4
Dont get too excited, You'll be 4-5 by the start of next week.
Not even going by record. Clippers are clearly a better squad already despite 3 new starters and like 7 new players.
I'm sure any Knicks fan would trade the Clippers squad for theirs.
OKCThunderUP
01-09-2012, 02:10 AM
Dont any of yall get your hopes up. Hes coming to OKC.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 02:11 AM
Clippers are clearly a better squad already despite 3 new starters and like 7 new players.
Certainly more upside.
Not even going by record. Clippers are clearly a better squad already despite 3 new starters and like 7 new players.
Not at all.
Knicks are the better team talent-wise, which is why its so frustrating that D'Antoni's holding this team back from its full potential. Too many 3's, not enough ball movement in the half court.
We're still without our starting PG, your former PG. :oldlol:
Talking about a new team? We've got 2 new starters and 8 new players.
Dont go there Jerry!
Donald Sterling wont pay you well.
LA has too much smog that will affect your health.
We're closer to competing for a title than the Clippers are.
Melo/Amare are in their primes and need a coach like you to get them to a Championship.
We dont flop.
Amare knows the Pick & Roll.
Its New York.
Come to Portland Jerry!
Our crowd is white just like you were used to in Utah.
We have more of a team atmosphere like the Jazz of the 90s.
Clippers and Knicks have diva superstars like Deron Williams who led you to quit in the first place.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 02:21 AM
Come to Portland Jerry!
You have the best coach in the league. Why would you want a new one?
LockoutOver11
01-09-2012, 02:23 AM
jerry to the brooklyn nets,,, ahaha jk. but atleast deron will be gone... maybe.
RazorBaLade
01-09-2012, 02:24 AM
OKC, NY or Clips would make the most sense. All teams gotta point to the coach if they underachieve this year..
rule1223
01-09-2012, 02:25 AM
if hes so good then why doesnt he have a COTY award?
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 02:31 AM
if hes so good then why doesnt he have a COTY award?
or titles
Meticode
01-09-2012, 02:40 AM
if hes so good then why doesnt he have a COTY award?
Because Sloan is better than the CotY award. That award usually goes to coaches that have done better than expected with their teams. I think in the 20 years Sloan coach the Jazz had maybe 1-2 losing seasons? That's pretty damn good transitioning from the Malone/Stockton era to totally rebuilding when Williams/Boozer came along. He would've had two titles if it wasn't for arguably the best team in NBA history called the Chicago Bulls w/ Jordan.
Fiasco
01-09-2012, 02:40 AM
if hes so good then why doesnt he have a COTY award?
Because he hasn't coached the Clippers yet, obviously.
Meticode
01-09-2012, 02:41 AM
or titles
Michael Jordan. Sloan has a worthy excuse.
Go Getter
01-09-2012, 02:49 AM
John Wall better get on his knees and BEG Jerry to come to DC.
if hes so good then why doesnt he have a COTY award?
He's obviously not as good as Mike Brown, Del Harris, Sam Mitchell or Mike D'Antoni.
wang4three
01-09-2012, 03:25 AM
I'd like to see him on the Kings and knock Cousin's ass to the ground. He needs it.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 03:35 AM
Michael Jordan. Sloan has a worthy excuse.
Maybe if he hadn't been so thoroughly outcoached. What about all those other years he didn't get it done?
Scoooter
01-09-2012, 03:51 AM
He should stay retired before people realize he doesn't have what it takes to win championships.
Nick Young
01-09-2012, 04:05 AM
Not at all.
Knicks are the better team talent-wise, which is why its so frustrating that D'Antoni's holding this team back from its full potential. Too many 3's, not enough ball movement in the half court.
We're still without our starting PG, your former PG. :oldlol:
Talking about a new team? We've got 2 new starters and 8 new players.
no they dont. grif>amare, cp3>melo, knicks dont even have a tthird player as good as caron, let alone mo williams. knicks are shit
You have the best coach in the league. Why would you want a new one?
I believe he is a good coach, but not the best in the league, and certainly not on Sloan's level.
The Big Skinny
01-09-2012, 05:04 AM
Go to the wiz!
lol
magnax1
01-09-2012, 05:06 AM
I can't believe that someone thinks McMillan is the best coach in the league...
Fiasco
01-09-2012, 06:14 AM
Wizards....
The LA Sparks have a better chance of being coached by Sloan than the Wizards.
dab0yech0
01-09-2012, 06:31 AM
Don't go there, Jerry!
You're white, so the chances Sterling marginalizes you is close to 0%! He'll find some bullshit reason to can VDN and you can have his salary on top of your new one!
New York only has Amare and Melo, and those guys are ugly. Cosmopolitan Magazine ranks Griffin and Paul as the #1 and #5 best looking players in the NBA
Griffin is in his second year, but has the mentality of a veteran, and Chris Paul is about to hit his prime shortly. The Malone/Stockton comparisons would make you the GOAT (not the animal).
We live in Hollywood and our flopping is merely an extension of our culture. Acting at its finest!
It's Los Angeles.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Please Sloan consider this and come to LA!!!!!!!!!!
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 06:43 AM
certainly not on Sloan's level
No, he's on a different level. Unlike Sloan's teams who pretty much always underachieved McMillan's overachieved every year. Imagine if he ever gets a couple healthy superstars like Sloan had most of his career. Can't see his teams going from first to third or getting knocked out of the first or second round almost every year with two of the greats to ever play the game. Can't see him watching a big lead become a close game without calling a timeout and afterwards say to the press when asked about it. "What could I do?". Imagine him saying that in LA or NY. They'd have his head!
Shepseskaf
01-09-2012, 06:56 AM
Sloan should only be allowed to coach the Wiz. No more Flip Saunders as a HC, please.
alenleomessi
01-09-2012, 06:58 AM
Im sure he will rather chose death than coaching the clippers :violin:
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 07:06 AM
No more Flip Saunders as a HC, please.
I'm sure he won't be so sought after next time around but than PJ Carleisimo kept getting hired so who knows.
Fiasco
01-09-2012, 07:15 AM
Im sure he will rather chose death than coaching the clippers :violin:
Jerry Sloan's Carcass as a coach >>>>>>> Vinny Del Negro as a coach
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 07:22 AM
Jerry Sloan's Carcass as a coach >>>>>>> Vinny Del Negro as a coach
And that's about what you'd be getting. He didn't seem to have much energy his last few years but when they keep throwing money at you I guess you take it. Del Negro made the playoffs with a lot less than Jerry had in his long playoff run though.
Fiasco
01-09-2012, 07:38 AM
And that's about what you'd be getting. He didn't seem to have much energy his last few years but when they keep throwing money at you I guess you take it. Del Negro made the playoffs with a lot less than Jerry had in his long playoff run though.
Del Negro's been coaching for three years. He inherited a team with Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah, and Luol Deng and made the 8th seed twice with .500 records. He also had Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas, John Salmons, Drew Gooden, and Kirk Hinrich for those two years in Chicago. How is that any less than what Sloan's had to work with over a much longer career? You could make an argument that Del Negro's teams win in spite of his coaching.
Thibodeau inherited the same three core players and won the conference while Del Negro couldn't even squeeze 40 wins out of a team that featured Blake Griffin, Eric Gordon, Deandre Jordan, and Chris Kaman.
Sloan has taken time off and is now re-energized. He misses the game, and he's hungry for another shot at the title. He'd practically be taking a stroll down memory lane with Chris Paul and Blake Griffin on the roster.
The Clippers and Sloan are so eerily perfect for each other that I want to throw up anytime I think of Griffin shooting free throws at 4:00 in the morning for him.
No, he's on a different level. Unlike Sloan's teams who pretty much always underachieved McMillan's overachieved every year. Imagine if he ever gets a couple healthy superstars like Sloan had most of his career. Can't see his teams going from first to third or getting knocked out of the first or second round almost every year with two of the greats to ever play the game. Can't see him watching a big lead become a close game without calling a timeout and afterwards say to the press when asked about it. "What could I do?". Imagine him saying that in LA or NY. They'd have his head!
I have a hard time saying McMillan is such a great coach when he has only led his team out of the 1st round once in 11 seasons (lost in the 2nd round), while Sloan has 2 Finals appearances, 4 Western Conference Finals appearances, and 5 second round appearances. McMillan is a good motivator, which helps teams overachieve and make the playoffs when they could easily not, but he has not shown that he is good at Xs and Os, or making adjustments from game to game in playoff series.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 07:49 AM
Del Negro's been coaching for three years. He inherited a team with Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah, and Luol Deng and made the 8th seed twice with .500 records. He also had Ben Gordon, Tyrus Thomas, John Salmons, Drew Gooden, and Kirk Hinrich for those two years in Chicago. How is that any less than what Sloan's had to work with over a much longer career?
Don't see the two superstars there? Arguable rather Rose was before last year.
You could make an argument that Del Negro's teams win in spite of his coaching.
You could. Might be wrong though?
Thibodeau inherited the same three core players and won the conference
And added Boozer and many other players. Thibodeau is probably a much better coach certainly defensively. Doesn't mean Del Negro was horrible though.
while Del Negro couldn't even squeeze 40 wins out of a team that featured Blake Griffin, Eric Gordon, Deandre Jordan, and Chris Kaman.
Well Kaman and Gordon were hurt for long stretches and Griffin was a rookie. Jordan is very raw. They were beating everyone at home for a while before Gordon went down. Were struggling on the road like young teams do. Was years before Stockton and Malone won on the road too.
He'd practically be taking a stroll down memory lane with Chris Paul and Blake Griffin on the roster.
Yes he would as long as Paul's knee holds up.
The Clippers and Sloan are so eerily perfect for each other
Except they need a defensive coach and that's not Jerry.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 07:56 AM
I have a hard time saying McMillan is such a great coach when he has only led his team out of the 1st round once in 11 seasons (lost in the 2nd round)
I don't. I did when he went to Portland and they were saying he was one of the best based on one great season in Seattle but his teams have over achieved every year. He was suposed to go furthur in the playoffs? How many times they have home court?
while Sloan has 2 Finals appearances, 4 Western Conference Finals appearances, and 5 second round appearances
And two of the greatest players ever and two of the most durable. They were going to win with or without Jerry. They underachieved most years.
McMillan is a good motivator, which helps teams overachieve and make the playoffs when they could easily not, but he has not shown that he is good at Xs and Os, or making adjustments from game to game in playoff series.
Give him a Stockton and Malone that can run a pick and roll all night and who knows? Jerry certainly wasn't good at making adjustments. He did the same thing all the time. He was fortunate to have the players and the job security.
I don't. I did when he went to Portland and they were saying he was one of the best based on one great season in Seattle but his teams have over achieved every year. He was suposed to go furthur in the playoffs? How many times they have home court?
And two of the greatest players ever and two of the most durable. They were going to win with or without Jerry. They underachieved most years.
Give him a Stockton and Malone that can run a pick and roll all night and who knows? Jerry certainly wasn't good at making adjustments. He did the same thing all the time. He was fortunate to have the players and the job security.
Even post Stockton/Malone, Sloan has helped his team get out of the first round 3 times, including one trip to the ECF, and 3 series wins without homecourt advantage. That is considerably more impressive even without Stockton/Malone in the playoffs than any McMillan coached team.
Fiasco
01-09-2012, 08:13 AM
Don't see the two superstars there? Arguable rather Rose was before last year.
Rose was a star. While he didn't have a superstar, he had a very deep team that should have finished much better than 41-41...... twice.
You could. Might be wrong though?
Very debatable.
And added Boozer and many other players. Thibodeau is probably a much better coach certainly defensively. Doesn't mean Del Negro was horrible though.
They changed small pieces. Fundamental changes were Boozer, Brewer/Watson, and arguably Korver. Del Negro had the same core with a still-in-tact Ben Gordon, Drew Gooden, Tyrus Thomas, Kirk Hinrich... more than adequate enough to be better than the 8th seed.
Well Kaman and Gordon were hurt for long stretches and Griffin was a rookie. Jordan is very raw. They were beating everyone at home for a while before Gordon went down. Were struggling on the road like young teams do. Was years before Stockton and Malone won on the road too.
Derrick Rose was a rookie when he made the playoffs in his first year. In fact, several of his major players missed significant time yet he took them to the 8th seed. I'm not saying we had a better team than the 08-09 Bulls last year, but there was more than enough talent to at least make the playoffs (or at least finish .500).
Yes he would as long as Paul's knee holds up.
Holding up so far.
Except they need a defensive coach and that's not Jerry.
We need a coach, period.
Zenji
01-09-2012, 08:16 AM
Dont go there Jerry!
Donald Sterling wont pay you well.
LA has too much smog that will affect your health.
We're closer to competing for a title than the Clippers are.
Melo/Amare are in their primes and need a coach like you to get them to a Championship.
We dont flop.
Amare knows the Pick & Roll.
Its New York.
Negative.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 08:30 AM
Even post Stockton/Malone, Sloan has helped his team get out of the first round 3 times, including one trip to the ECF, and 3 series wins without homecourt advantage.
With superstar Deron Williams. The finals was cuz GS upset Dallas. They wouldn't have beat Dallas. Playoffs are a lot about match-ups.
That is considerably more impressive even without Stockton/Malone in the playoffs than any McMillan coached team.
Considerably? Portland was fortunate to do what they did with their one superstar in and out of the line-up every year. If Aldridge had stepped up before last year you'd have a better argument.
While he didn't have a superstar, he had a very deep team that should have finished much better than 41-41...... twice.
Maybe? From what I remember Deng and Noah were hurt.
They changed small pieces. Fundamental changes were Boozer, Brewer/Watson, and arguably Korver. Del Negro had the same core with a still-in-tact Ben Gordon, Drew Gooden, Tyrus Thomas, Kirk Hinrich... more than adequate enough to be better than the 8th seed.
Much different supporting cast. Hard to compare.
Holding up so far.
2 weeks!
We need a coach, period.
You need a lot of things. You need more depth up front and on the wing and less pg's. U need more size at the 2. Just be careful what you wish for in Sloan. Their are other coaches that know the pick and roll.
With superstar Deron Williams. The finals was cuz GS upset Dallas. They wouldn't have beat Dallas. Playoffs are a lot about match-ups.
Considerably? Portland was fortunate to do what they did with their one superstar in and out of the line-up every year. If Aldridge had stepped up before last year you'd have a better argument.
Utah had 1 superstar and Portland had 1 superstar. :confusedshrug:
I know Utah also had Boozer, but Portland had a pretty stacked roster themselves for a bit. Portland wasn't able to get past a team with or without HCA, while the Jazz did it several times. 4 series wins in 7 years (multiple without HCA, meaning they overperformed IN THE PLAYOFFS) is considerably better than 1 series win (when McMillan coached Seattle) in 11 years.
I am a huge Blazer fan. I have watched every playoff game that McMillan has coached for the Blazers. He simply has not made the adjustments necessary to win when he has to play the same team over and over. A general series looks like this for Portland:
Blazers may get a win or 2.
Opposing coach adjusts gameplan and beats Portland.
McMillan adjusts nothing and the Blazers lose.
McMillan adjusts nothing and the Blazers lose.
McMillan adjusts nothing and the Blazers lose.
McMillan finally realizes what they have been doing needs to change but it is to late, and they shortly thereafter get eliminated.
He has been out coached in every playoff series for the Blazers. It has not simply been a matter of the opponents having more talent, but the team being out coached. I will say that McMillan has made some strides in making adjustments in the last year by showing he actually can use a quicker offense, but historically that has not been the case and he has yet to show the game by game (let alone half by half adjustments) required to win in the playoffs.
Historically, McMillan's success has come from motivating his players, then calling isolation plays hoping his players can outperform the opponents. This helps the Blazers in a large chunk of regular season games because they had more talent than a majority of the teams out there, but in the playoffs the talent matched up better and McMillan's reliance on isolation wasn't enough to advance to the second round.
Burgz
01-09-2012, 08:58 AM
the clippers are definitely the better choice if he were to join one of the two but how often do you see a high profile coach hired midway through the season, especially a shortened season
his price is high and owners would be silly to shell out big bucks for a few months work
anyways i think he needs to coach a young team, a team he can make buy into his system.
Wizards look like a possibility, that team has so much talent but are godawful, don't know if he's willing to deal with the locker room drama
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 09:13 AM
the clippers are definitely the better choice if he were to join one of the two but how often do you see a high profile coach hired midway through the season, especially a shortened season
his price is high and owners would be silly to shell out big bucks for a few months work
Made 5 million in Utah. Phil Johnson will have to get paid a bit too. I'd like to see someone hire Phil and he'd have Jerry as his assistant this time around. He was a COTY. Wouldn't say it would be silly if it made your team better.
anyways i think he needs to coach a young team, a team he can make buy into his system.
Wizards look like a possibility, that team has so much talent but are godawful, don't know if he's willing to deal with the locker room drama
He'd be willing if the front office let's him do things his way but as we saw in Sacramento he's probably not getting that like he did in Utah. He'd want Blatche, Young and Crawford gone for sure.
NBAtipoff
01-09-2012, 09:32 AM
NYK, LAC, or the Wizards could be options. He'd fit NYK well. Now that he's possibly open to coaching, teams may come calling.
coin24
01-09-2012, 09:38 AM
NY need a new coach badly.. Sloan would be a great fit..
Clips won't give up on vdn just yet.
Wizards. Wow they're awful:lol it's not flips fault he has a roster full of low iq retards:facepalm no coach is getting through to those idiots...
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 09:38 AM
Now that he's possibly open to coaching, teams may come calling.
Supposedly they already were.
Lebron23
01-09-2012, 09:39 AM
He couldn't win an NBA title with Prime Karl Malone and Prime John Stockton. The Jazz were eliminated plenty of times in the first round of the playoffs. He needs to stay retire, or coach a college team if he wants to win a championship. Tom Thibediau in his first NBA Season already led the Bulls in the conference finals, and they had the best record in the regular season.
LA_Showtime
01-09-2012, 09:52 AM
He couldn't win an NBA title with Prime Karl Malone and Prime John Stockton. The Jazz were eliminated plenty of times in the first round of the playoffs. He needs to stay retire, or coach a college team if he wants to win a championship. Tom Thibediau in his first NBA Season already led the Bulls in the conference finals, and they had the best record in the regular season.
That's because of this guy named Michael Jordan. You probably haven't heard of him, but he was pretty good.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 09:56 AM
Yeah all because of MJ. Not because he did anything wrong.
Lebron23
01-09-2012, 10:04 AM
That's because this of this guy named Michael Jordan. You probably haven't heard of him, but he was pretty good.
They only played Jordan and the Bulls 2x in the NBA Finals. The Jordan excuse is very lame. They were expected to contend in the West after the 1988 NBA Season, and they did make it to the Finals in 1997 and 1998 when they beat an aging and injury plagued Rockets team, Clippers, Spurs with Duncan in his rookie season, and they swept a inexperienced Lakers team who didn't have a consistent 2nd scoring option during that time.
Those Lakers team looked good on papers because they had 4 NBA All Stars in the 1998 All Star game, but Shaq was the only consistent playoffs performer for the Lakers.
The Jazz were eliminated plenty of times into the playoffs despite having a hc advantage.A team with the Best PF and Best PG in the game should have dominated the Western Conference post Showtime Lakers.
A Great coach always makes some adjustments, and he knows how to win. That's why Sloan is not in the same level as the other all time great coaches.
D-Rose
01-09-2012, 10:13 AM
They only played Jordan and the Bulls 2x in the NBA Finals. The Jordan excuse is very lame. They were expected to contend in the West after the 1988 NBA Season, and they did make it to the Finals in 1997 and 1998 when they beat an aging and injury plagued Rockets team, Clippers, Spurs with Duncan in his rookie season, and they swept a inexperienced Lakers team who didn't have a consistent 2nd scoring option during that time.
Those Lakers team looked good on papers because they had 4 NBA All Stars in the 1998 All Star game, but Shaq was the only consistent playoffs performer for the Lakers.
The Jazz were eliminated plenty of times into the playoffs despite having a hc advantage.A team with the Best PF and Best PG in the game should have dominated the Western Conference post Showtime Lakers.
A Great coach always makes some adjustments, and he knows how to win. That's why Sloan is not in the same level as the other all time great coaches.
Oh boy, that's a new one. :oldlol:
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 10:16 AM
inexperienced Lakers team who didn't have a consistent 2nd scoring option during that time
Bashing Sloan and Kobe. Right on!
Those Lakers team looked good on papers because they had 4 NBA All Stars in the 1998 All Star game
Including 3 guards one of which was still a year away from deserving it(Kobe).
Shaq was the only consistent playoffs performer for the Lakers
But Tag showed him up and he took a cheap shot at him the next year. Phil saved their careers.
A Great coach always makes some adjustments, and he knows how to win. That's why Sloan is not in the same level as the other all time great coaches.
In this case the so-called great coach had unprecedented job security and two healthy greats.
Lebron23
01-09-2012, 10:21 AM
Oh boy, that's a new one. :oldlol:
All time GOAT Coaches in my book.
Red Auerbach
Phil Jackson
Gregg Popovich
Pat Riley
Rudy Tomjanovich
Chuck Daly (RIP)
Bill Sharman
KC Jones
Lenny Wilkens
Larry Brown
Larry Bird in his short tenure as an NBA mentor was a better coach than Jerry Sloan.
Purch
01-09-2012, 10:22 AM
Every Jazz fan knows Xiao has a personal vendetta against Sloan. It actually got comical after a while. Though he's actually tolerable now that Sloan's not here so he doesn't have something to consistently complain about.
Anyhow I could see Sloan being a great addition to the Knicks ( Though I personally don't belive he'll come out of retirement) The guy actually knows how to run an offense in the half court and will get you away from all the Melo Iso ball or the D'antoni obsession with fast breaks( From last season). Though I think having a coach like Sloan will definitely emphasize your need for a playmaking point guard because Melo as a so called point forward won't get it done.
Purch
01-09-2012, 10:24 AM
All time GOAT Coaches in my book.
Red Auerbach
Phil Jackson
Gregg Popovich
Pat Riley
Rudy Tomjanovich
Chuck Daly (RIP)
Bill Sharman
KC Jones
Lenny Wilkens
Larry Brown
Larry Bird in his short tenure as an NBA mentor was a better coach than Jerry Sloan.
One. Rick Adelman was always a better coach than Larry Brown definitely offensively and when it comes to handling young players on his team Adelman far surpasses Brown imo.
Two. Seriously Bird? Really? Is that all you have to do to be considered a great coach?
Lebron23
01-09-2012, 10:26 AM
Bashing Sloan and Kobe. Right on!
Including 3 guards one of which was still a year away from deserving it(Kobe).
But Tag showed him up and he took a cheap shot at him the next year. Phil saved their careers.
In this case the so-called great coach had unprecedented job security and two healthy greats.
Kobe was still not yet an elite player in the 1998 NBA Season. He became a top 10-12 player in the league in the 1999 NBA Season.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 10:28 AM
Not agreeing that Sloan could do no wrong as a coach is a personal vendetta? You go from 1st to 3rd with any other franchise in the world with two healthy superstars you lose your job. You tell the media that there's nothing you can do so why call a time out you are fired. But in Utah you are an apostle. LMAO!
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 10:31 AM
Kobe was still not yet an elite player in the 1998 NBA Season. He became a top 10-12 player in the league in the 1999 NBA Season.
But was an all-star over Stockton and others more deserving.
Lebron23
01-09-2012, 10:31 AM
One. Rick Adelman was always a better coach than Larry Brown definitely offensively and when it comes to handling young players on his team Adelman far surpasses Brown imo.
Two. Seriously Bird? Really? Is that all you have to do to be considered a great coach?
It took the Bulls seven hard fought games before they beat the Pacers in the Conference Finals, and Bird also led the Pacers in the NBA Finals in only his 3rd NBA Season.
Purch
01-09-2012, 10:35 AM
Not agreeing that Sloan could do no wrong as a coach is a personal vendetta? You go from 1st to 3rd with any other franchise in the world with two healthy superstars you lose your job. You tell the media that there's nothing you can do so why call a time out you are fired. But in Utah you are an apostle. LMAO!
No. All of the past 3 seasons at every turn possible criticizing him definitely wasn't normal to the point where Luigi even quit the Jazz board because it was getting so out of hand. No. Only knee jerkers fire people over statements such as that. The greatest coach ever imo John Wooden used to say this to his players
Purch
01-09-2012, 10:38 AM
It took the Bulls seven hard fought games before they beat the Pacers in the Conference Finals, and Bird also led the Pacers in the NBA Finals in only his 3rd NBA Season.
Right so we just ignore both of the finals appearances from the Jazz and one in which the reason they lost was a clear offensive foul. None of the things in which you listed even make him a better coach than George Karl.
Can you please explain to me the kind of offense/defense/how Bird rotated his players or are you only looking at his " success"
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 10:58 AM
Adelman far surpasses Brown.
I'm far more impressed with coaches that have won in several places than Sloan who failed in Chicago before taking over a playoff team and while he made them better didn't continue to progress every year. Up and down.
Purch
01-09-2012, 11:00 AM
I'm far more impressed with coaches that have won in several places than Sloan who failed in Chicago before taking over a playoff team and while he made them better didn't continue to progress every year. Up and down.
That's nice but the statement I made had no relation to sloan what so ever was just a comparision of Brown and Adelman where I feel Adelman is the superior coach. I also feel Adelman's a better coach than Sloan if that helps you sleep at night.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 11:06 AM
Luigi even quit the Jazz board
God forbid someone not worshipping the great Sloan!
You go through tons of regular season games so players learn how to fight back without always having to go to a time out from the coach.
Sure Phil Jackson liked to do that to but not at the cost of victory.
Right so we just ignore both of the finals appearances from the Jazz and one in which the reason they lost was a clear offensive foul.
Should have never came down to the last play where a call isn't going to be made. They blew like a 7 point lead in the final minute in one game. Karl Malone missing lay up after lay up. Sloan getting schooled by the Zen master.
None of the things in which you listed even make him a better coach than George Karl.
You say that like that's a bad thing. Has anyone done a better job since the Carmelo trade? What he's done without a star is impressive.
Purch
01-09-2012, 11:07 AM
That's nice but the statement I made had no relation to sloan what so ever was just a comparision of Brown and Adelman where I feel Adelman is the superior coach. I also feel Adelman's a better coach than Sloan if that helps you sleep at night.
And that's because I feel Adelman's system more than Sloan's/Pop's/Phil's system's ext give the players the maximum amount of freedom whiles also holding them accountable to make the right decision.
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 11:09 AM
I also feel Adelman's a better coach than Sloan
But we're in the minority. He certainly doesn't get the respect that Sloan does despite impressive teams in Portland, Sacramento and Houston and now turning things around yet again in Minnesota.
Purch
01-09-2012, 11:10 AM
God forbid someone not worshipping the great Sloan!
Sure Phil Jackson liked to do that to but not at the cost of victory.
Should have never came down to the last play where a call isn't going to be made. They blew like a 7 point lead in the final minute in one game. Karl Malone missing lay up after lay up. Sloan getting schooled by the Zen master.
You say that like that's a bad thing. Has anyone done a better job since the Carmelo trade? What he's done without a star is impressive.
Well by his list he provided very little insight on their coaching styles and what made them great and seemed to only list coaches by what they accomplished rather than how they effective they were as coaches. Which is why I brung up a coach like George Karl who he most likely wouldn't know much about since he isn't as publicized or accomplished as people he listed.
Actually I've heard Lakers fans complain numerous times about Phil Jackson not calling a time out resulting in a loss.
Purch
01-09-2012, 11:13 AM
But we're in the minority. He certainly doesn't get the respect that Sloan does despite impressive teams in Portland, Sacramento and Houston and now turning things around yet again in Minnesota.
Adelman's an amazing coach. So is Sloan. Adelman's system I always found just to be more benifical to players development than Sloan's honestly. Where Adelman's system allows players freedom to grow and develop their weaknesses into strengths whiles Sloan's just develops players into Sloan kind of players and hides their weaknesses( Like Boozer). His system was great for not letting players weaknesses effect how productive they were on the court but I'm not certain if a lot of them were held accountable for not turning those weaknesses into strengths
Xiao Yao You
01-09-2012, 11:16 AM
Not sure that it's really Sloan's system. He and Johnson learned it from Motta.
Purch
01-09-2012, 11:21 AM
Not sure that it's really Sloan's system. He and Johnson learned it from Motta.
Well a lot of the systems origins are questionable a lot of coaches copy a lot from college basketball whiles a lot of coaches take bits and pieces of systems from Euroleauge coaches. Either way they adopt it and kind of make it their own.
D12"Magic"
01-09-2012, 07:01 PM
Was thinking how good it will be if he coached for the Nets but I forgot the incident between him and Deron.
Jasper
01-09-2012, 08:05 PM
Sloan if he ever returned to the NBA spot light would need a roster to buy into his stratgy.
He is old school , and I think he could be pigeon holed in with Larry Brown.
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If he really decided to return to coaching , I would like to see him coach a low level NCAA div A team.... so alot of his players would NOT skip years and actually play out a 4 year term.
Something like Bo Ryan's Wisconsin Badgers.
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I really don't think he'll coach ever again.
kurple
01-09-2012, 08:12 PM
Sloan needs a great PG
Knicks won't have that with Melo, Amare and Chandler taking all the cap space
ConanRulesNBC
01-09-2012, 08:14 PM
Everyone was saying it was crazy when I said he'd probably be back.
I think if he decides to come back it will be with the Knicks. Though returning to Utah and retiring his way rather than being forced out by Deron Williams would be nice.
ConanRulesNBC
01-09-2012, 08:15 PM
Was thinking how good it will be if he coached for the Nets but I forgot the incident between him and Deron.
If the Nets got Dwight Howard that would be great to see if he could make up with Williams and coach that team. Deron Williams and Dwight Howard would be the best PG/big man combo he's coached since Stockton and Malone.
Lucifer
01-09-2012, 08:19 PM
Dont go there Jerry!
Donald Sterling wont pay you well.
LA has too much smog that will affect your health.
We're closer to competing for a title than the Clippers are.
Melo/Amare are in their primes and need a coach like you to get them to a Championship.
We dont flop.
Amare knows the Pick & Roll.
Its New York.
*** New York.
Xiao Yao You
01-10-2012, 03:17 AM
Though returning to Utah and retiring his way rather than being forced out by Deron Williams would be nice.
No it wouldn't! Enjoying the changes Corbin is making myself.
Purch
01-10-2012, 08:26 AM
I'd welcome a return to Utah. Even though I feel we might be lowballing Corbin who's actually a better coach than I usally give him credi for.
Darius
01-10-2012, 12:30 PM
Oh my god.
Please come to the Clippers.
PLEASE. PLEASE.
You can finish what you started! From Stockton/Malone to Griffin/Paul!
PLEASE, BABY JESUS!
Terrible idea.
Sloan is too old school. His time has passed.
Used to be the coaches were bigger than players, now its the opposite. You need a coach that's able to work well with the players and get them to buy into their roles, not a hard ass who will alienate them.
Bigsmoke
01-10-2012, 12:42 PM
lol he should just retire and let the younger coaches do their thing.
HylianNightmare
01-10-2012, 12:46 PM
new york
swi7ch
01-10-2012, 01:26 PM
Please don't go to NY. They might beat the HEAT with sloan as their coach...
Pharcyde
01-10-2012, 02:15 PM
Don't see the two superstars there? Arguable rather Rose was before last year.
You could. Might be wrong though?
And added Boozer and many other players. Thibodeau is probably a much better coach certainly defensively. Doesn't mean Del Negro was horrible though.
Well Kaman and Gordon were hurt for long stretches and Griffin was a rookie. Jordan is very raw. They were beating everyone at home for a while before Gordon went down. Were struggling on the road like young teams do. Was years before Stockton and Malone won on the road too.
Yes he would as long as Paul's knee holds up.
Except they need a defensive coach and that's not Jerry.
Del Negro was a horrible coach on the Bulls and runs the exact same and still horrendous offensive sets on the Clippers.
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