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Bladers
01-09-2012, 04:06 AM
First Week of Jan

NAME 10-15 Feet 16-23 Feet

Kobe Bryant 52.9% 50%
Dirk Nowitzki 40.4% 64%
Kevin Durant 44.0% 53%
Lebron James 41.7% 42%
Carmelo Anthony 31.3% 45%
Dwyane Wade 37.5% 35%
Derrick Rose 27.3% 35%

Second Week of Jan

NAME 10-15 Feet 16-23 Feet

Kobe Bryant 48.2% 51%
Dirk Nowitzki 43.6% 60%
Kevin Durant 43.6% 50%
Lebron James 38.5% 42%
Dwyane Wade 44% 32%
Carmelo Anthony 30% 38%
Derrick Rose 26.7% 41%


(The list are in order from best to least)

Things to note: Lebron's midrange have actually regressed from last season. though his percentage close to the rim have shot up from 44% to 77%. He has definately improved his post game. unfortunately his shooting has taken a hit.

Meanwhile Kobe is having his best midrange shooting season (from 16-23)since 2007 at 50%. For comparison, he shot 38% there last season. Looks like his new shooting form which he changed to last week is working for him. I hope he sticks with it. His fadeway jumpers are deadly at the moment.

Durant has showed great improvement aswell. From shooting 40% (from 16-23) to 53%.

Rose on the other hand has regressed for some who knows what reason. He better start working on his midrange and let loose on that 3pt trigger.

Wade is Wade. He's always beeen a bad Jump shooter, living off freethrows refs gift him with under sterns command.

Melo, overrated chucker, only good in the clutch.

and finally Dirk. Although he is having a bad season so far. He has shown major improvement on his fadeway, spiking up from 52% last season to 64%this season.



[Stick around, will be updating this through out the season]

ThatsGame
01-09-2012, 04:08 AM
Obvious trolling and bias.

These players have different styles of play.

Bladers
01-09-2012, 04:09 AM
Obvious trolling and bias.

These players have different styles of play.

How was my above assesment bias? care to elaborate?

Rowe
01-09-2012, 04:14 AM
Weak ass argument.

Its been 8 games dude.

Bladers
01-09-2012, 04:18 AM
Weak ass argument.

Its been 8 games dude.

And? I will update it as the season goes. Don't get bent outta shape cause ur franchise player is living off of hype in the mid-range department.

He actually did worse last season (36.8% from 10-15 and 40% from 16-23).

Go figure.

(e)
01-09-2012, 04:23 AM
Actually surprised Rose's percentages are that low. I haven't watched every single minute this season, but outside of 2 games, he's been really solid.

Games I am talking about are the GS, and Saturday's ATL game.

Rowe
01-09-2012, 04:27 AM
And? I will update it as the season goes. Don't get bent outta shape cause ur franchise player is living off of hype in the mid-range department.

He actually did worse last season (36.8% from 10-15 and 40% from 16-23).

Go figure.
Congratulations for discovering Hoopdata in 2012. :eek:

Every shot Melo takes from mid-range is a contested pull-up jumper.

Thats his style of play for better or for worse.

Oh and btw once again its been 8 games.

Bladers
01-09-2012, 04:38 AM
Congratulations for discovering Hoopdata in 2012. :eek:

Every shot Melo takes from mid-range is a contested pull-up jumper.

Thats his style of play for better or for worse.

Oh and btw once again its been 8 games.

I actually knew about hoopsdata since 2010. And made acouple threads about it bck then. anyway.

Are you saying Dirk and Kobe do not tak contested jumpers? Because Kobe's jumper are probably the most consistently heavily contested jumper in the history of the NBA.

And its a fadeway, which adds another layer of difficulty to an already improbable jumpshot. Now guys like Lebron and Wade don't so I will give you that. But even then, you can't use that as an excuse.

Now the reason im saying this is because of the melo mid-range hype. And the hype that he's the best scorer which he isn't

You say its only 8 games (some teams have played 9 and 10), regardless melo is on par with his last season performance so I don't see a reason to be discontent.

Dave3
01-09-2012, 05:49 AM
Meanwhile Kobe is having his best midrange shooting season (from 16-23)since 2007 at 50%. For comparison, he shot 38% there last season. Looks like his new shooting form which he changed to last week is working for him. I hope he sticks with it. His fadeway jumpers are deadly at the moment.

These aren't Kobe's best numbers from there since 2007, they're also better than his 2006, 2005, and 2004 numbers. They're probably better than all of his numbers from 1997-2003 but I don't know of any data before 2004. What I do know for a fact is that his highest % since 2004 from midrange is ~43-44%.

NumberSix
01-09-2012, 06:19 AM
Too small of a sample size to really care. Let's see what's going on 25-30 games in.

blackification
01-09-2012, 06:25 AM
Wait until the season ends and Nash will have a better shooting percentage than all these people.

che guevara
01-09-2012, 07:38 AM
The numbers are fairly meaningless at this point of the season. At the end of January last year (46 games into the season), Lebron was shooting ~38% from 10-15 and 16-23 but finished the season at 45% from both ranges. Right now we're 8 games in. Kobe's not going to continue shooting 20% on threes, 50% from 16-23 or 27% from 3-9, those numbers will all normalize as will all the other ridiculous stats we're seeing.


Wait until the season ends and Nash will have a better shooting percentage than all these people.
He already is better:

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Steve%20Nash

Bladers
01-09-2012, 12:22 PM
The numbers are fairly meaningless at this point of the season. At the end of January last year (46 games into the season), Lebron was shooting ~38% from 10-15 and 16-23 but finished the season at 45% from both ranges. Right now we're 8 games in. Kobe's not going to continue shooting 20% on threes, 50% from 16-23 or 27% from 3-9, those numbers will all normalize as will all the other ridiculous stats we're seeing.


He already is better:

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Steve%20Nash

Mid-range takes into account both 10-15 and 16-23.
Steve on the other hand is shooting 33% from 10-15. So he's definately not better than all those guys on top. He would only make it infront Lebron.

Dwade305
01-09-2012, 12:25 PM
And? I will update it as the season goes. Don't get bent outta shape cause ur franchise player is living off of hype in the mid-range department.

He actually did worse last season (36.8% from 10-15 and 40% from 16-23).

Go figure.

:lol That never happens, because everything falls back into place as the season goes on, and your trolling spirit dies off

Bladers
01-09-2012, 12:41 PM
:lol That never happens, because everything falls back into place as the season goes on, and your trolling spirit dies off


nah.... wade's numbers will remainthe same.

KenneBell
01-09-2012, 12:48 PM
I'd be surprised if Kobe dropped below 48% on those 10-15ft jumpers.

cotdt
01-09-2012, 01:10 PM
Kobe is so amazing OMG!

HylianNightmare
01-09-2012, 01:14 PM
i'll wait till the end of the season to cast judgement

kidachi
01-09-2012, 01:21 PM
D-whistle jokes aren't applicable anymore OP.. especially this season..

He's only averaging 5.3fta, meanwhile Kobe has averages of 8fta... both playing in about 35-36MPG.

Dwade305
01-09-2012, 01:35 PM
D-whistle jokes aren't applicable anymore OP.. especially this season..

He's only averaging 5.3fta, meanwhile Kobe has averages of 8fta... both playing in about 35-36MPG.
:roll: By his logic that is why Kobe is shooting such a high percentage "because he is getting bailed out by refs!!"

blablabla
01-09-2012, 01:38 PM
kobe is the best at something
nothing new to see here

kidachi
01-09-2012, 01:44 PM
:roll: By his logic that is why Kobe is shooting such a high percentage "because he is getting bailed out by refs!!"

and to think.. Kobe's is averaging 4.5 3pt attempts..

I'm not challenging you OP.. I'm just saying..

Dave3
01-09-2012, 01:49 PM
kobe is the best at something
nothing new to see here
:wtf: You realize he's NEVER been at the top of this list before right? You're acting as if this is normal when it's never happened before? Looks pretty stupid.

Oh, and this is only 10 games in, which means there's little chance he's actually staying at the top. But yeah, way to look smart...

blablabla
01-09-2012, 01:50 PM
:wtf: You realize he's NEVER been at the top of this list before right? You're acting as if this is normal when it's never happened before? Looks pretty stupid.
i was joking

Dave3
01-09-2012, 01:57 PM
i was joking
Good save.

Legends66NBA7
01-09-2012, 02:08 PM
These aren't Kobe's best numbers from there since 2007, they're also better than his 2006, 2005, and 2004 numbers. They're probably better than all of his numbers from 1997-2003 but I don't know of any data before 2004. What I do know for a fact is that his highest % since 2004 from midrange is ~43-44%.

Where did you get those number from, Dave ?

Dave3
01-09-2012, 02:28 PM
Where did you get those number from, Dave ?
NBA.com's hotspots. They split up the floor into many different sections. I add all the FGM/FGA from a certain range on the floor and divide them to get the number. Kobe in 2006 (his best season as far as I know) was a ~44% shooter from 16-23.

blablabla
01-09-2012, 02:28 PM
Good save.
whatever

Pushxx
01-09-2012, 03:58 PM
Good save.

I don't know the guy but you can tell blablabla is joking. ISH humor.

Micku
01-09-2012, 04:38 PM
The numbers will go down as the season progress probably, but Kobe's been killing at the mid-range.

There are some names that you didn't put down.

Steve Nash is shooting 54.0% at the 16-23 feet range.

You didn't put Chris Paul either, who is shooting pretty solid. You didn't put Kevin Durant either.

But it doesn't really matter much since it's only the beginning of the seaosn. I would wait about 20-30 games in.

DaHeezy
01-09-2012, 05:06 PM
I love how if a list supports Kobe it's considered a sham or an agenda immediately.
If it was the same post from the same poster but supported their player it's a good find

Dave3
01-09-2012, 05:17 PM
I love how if a list supports Kobe it's considered a sham or an agenda immediately.
If it was the same post from the same poster but supported their player it's a good find
It's not that. It's the general post content of the poster themselves that makes people think it's agenda driven. He has a general history of bias for a certain player.

TheNaturalWR
01-09-2012, 05:29 PM
Weak ass argument.

Its been 8 games dude.

Yeah. Two missed jumpers could plummet your percentage by 4%. One bad game for Wade dropped his from 44% to 35%.

Bladers
01-14-2012, 06:46 PM
Second Week of Jan

NAME 10-15 Feet 16-23 Feet

Kobe Bryant 48.2% 51%
Dirk Nowitzki 43.6% 60%
Kevin Durant 43.6% 50%
Lebron James 38.5% 42%
Dwyane Wade 44% 32%
Carmelo Anthony 30% 38%
Derrick Rose 26.7% 41%


(The list are in order from best to least)

Unlike popular view that all kobe is doing is taking more shots than last season. Its not the case. He having the best midrange shoooting (16-23) of his career. shooting 51%. For comparison, he shot 38% last year and 41 the year before.

and continues neck and neck with Dirk.

Melo's mid range continues to suck. The so called best scorer in the game title is purely hype. Looking at the stats he was "never" the best scorer in the game, he hasn't even avraged 30 once and wade has done that already.

Wade made some improvement this week, unfortunately he can't hit a long jumper to save his life, but he moved up a spot, replacing melo's old position.

Dave3
02-15-2012, 03:29 PM
Is this going to continue to be updated?

Story Up
02-15-2012, 03:31 PM
Is this going to continue to be updated?
Yet, you don't have an agenda?
It's ******s like you that should be banned.

Dave3
02-15-2012, 03:50 PM
Yet, you don't have an agenda?
It's ******s like you that should be banned.
? So because the OP made it with a specific agenda, and when I troll the OP, who is an obvious troll, I should be banned?

Lebron23
03-09-2012, 06:04 AM
any latest updates?

Jotaro Durant
03-09-2012, 06:08 AM
he know kobe midrange% dropped like titanic:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

MJ(Mean John)
03-09-2012, 06:20 AM
I don't think there's ever been a more consistent, lethal and dominant midrange scorer.

Jotaro Durant
03-09-2012, 06:29 AM
I don't think there's ever been a more consistent, lethal and dominant midrange scorer.
http://www.answersfrommen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/basketball-michael-jordan03.jpg

MJ(Mean John)
03-09-2012, 06:33 AM
http://www.answersfrommen.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/basketball-michael-jordan03.jpg

Touch

Lebron23
03-09-2012, 09:34 AM
LeBron James


10-15 feet

48.3 FG%

16-23 feet

39 FG%

At rim

78 FG%

3-9 feet

45.2 FG%


Threes

59.6 EFG%

Lebron23
03-09-2012, 09:35 AM
I'd be surprised if Kobe dropped below 48% on those 10-15ft jumpers.

46.3 FG% from 10-15 feet

Lebron23
03-09-2012, 09:39 AM
Derrick Rose

10-15 feet

34.7 FG%

16-23 feet

41 FG%

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Derrick%20Rose

Lebron23
03-09-2012, 09:48 AM
Kevin Durant


10-15 feet

42.3 FG%

16-23 feet

49 FG%

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?name=Kevin%20Durant

bingo123
03-09-2012, 10:08 AM
Updated for this season:
NAME 10-15 Feet 16-23 Feet

Kobe Bryant 46.4% 42%
Dirk Nowitzki 40.8% 51%
Kevin Durant 42.3% 49%
Lebron James 48.3% 39%
Dwyane Wade 50.0% 38%
Carmelo Anthony 41.3% 30%
Derrick Rose 34.7% 41%

Lebron23
03-09-2012, 10:19 AM
Updated for this season:
NAME 10-15 Feet 16-23 Feet

Kobe Bryant 46.4% 42%
Dirk Nowitzki 40.8% 51%
Kevin Durant 42.3% 49%
Lebron James 48.3% 39%
Dwyane Wade 50.0% 38%
Carmelo Anthony 41.3% 30%
Derrick Rose 34.7% 41%

I hope they still let Bron guard Rose in the playoffs. Current Shane Battier is capable of guarding LOL Deng. Rose shot 42% from 10-15 feet last season.